and what these buffoons fail to realize is that Alinksy may have been a leftist, but his ‘rules’ are non-partisan and are simply a manual of effective organizing.
For all the paranoid “derpty derp – this is straight out of the Alinsky playbook!” howls from the right, one can easily find examples of the same organizing tactics used on the right, as conservative leaders have studied his methods quite thoroughly as well.
But I guess the right simply needs a new boogeyman – that Woodrow Wilson conspiracy stupidity never caught on the way they hoped it would.

A truely funny bit and completely true.  I don’t know one liberal, including myself who knew who the hell Saul Aulinsky before Beck and republicans trotted him out as the boogyman.

Why don’t you try googling it you unbelievably overrated, belief-defying sack of Marx-loving rotten donkey excrement with a face that looks like you’re the inbred offspring of two squirrels?

Remember, whenever conservatives don’t know who someone or something is it’s because they’re “ignorant”. 

Didn’t there used to be another guy the Republitards trotted out? I’m trying to come up with his name but I smoked during Bill’s show and I’m a bit impaired.

A lot of people have illnesses that they didn’t know they had for a long time. That doesn’t mean the illness didn’t exist and didn’t do any damage.

And just because you may not know the name it doesn’t mean a lot of your political beliefs and convictions aren’t defined by the influence of this heinous freak from Shitcago, the putrid Communist cold sore on America’s face.

See, even  people who claim to be his fans can’t get through the show without chemical assistance,

Weed makes the Republicans Bill insists on having on his show less annoying.

Saul Alinsky didn’t know Obama, but he was running buddies with Barry’s “real”  father, Frank Marshall Davis.  Pops told young Barry all about uncle Saul’s rulebook.

New teabagger dog whistle.

Republicans thrive and feed of of fear and if there’s nothing to fear they make it up.

Now, listen, I think you missed the point. Newt and Glenn trot this guy out as a liberal boogeyman. To be a liberal bookeyman, the liberals kind of need to know who he is. We’ve never heard of him. Kind of hard for him to influence people who don’t know who he is.

I didn’t even know who Saul Alinksy was until Newt mention him during the debate.  They have to run on fear.  

thanks @rob2385:disqus you just proved every point they make about repugs! That shit was right over your head huh? WOW! you really are that stupid? Its not an act? you guys remind me of Pavlov’s dogs, just ring the sound of Bill Maher, or some other lefty, and your foaming at the mouth, I bet you didn’t even bother to hear the bit right? HAHA! typical! Please proceed to shove your head back up your A%$! and leave the jokes and satire to the funny people. find me a funny conservative!! your idea of comedy is probably Jeff Foxworthy or Larry Fuknuts the Cable guy!  you must, with such a dumb response! 

“ To be a liberal bookeyman, the liberals kind of need to know who he is. ”
yes… just like to have cancer, you have to know you have cancer.

Or… not.

You pitiful Che-worshipping clown.

….

Barry’s “real ” father? Where’ did you pull that one out of? Why is it so unreasonable that Obama could be simply who he is? WHy is it so important to keep up this mythology that he’s some kind of impostor? Is this another birther thing?

Not sure if Bill talked about them, but I know Douche Bag Beck was going off about Cloward Piven for months, and then Van Jones, oh and their favorite George Soros (The Evil Marxist, Nazi Sympathizer, Liberal Overlord)  ! But either way, they will always find some shit to bug out too! Fuck’em!  PS.  Herbalz+Real Time w/ Bill Maher =Good Times!

Yeah, cause you knew who Saul was before he became a boogyman. pfft.

George Soros is who I was thinking of. Thanks.

Nobody knows who Saul Alinksy is?  You couldn’t go a day without his name being mentioned by some politico in the lead up to the 2008 election.  I predict the Bill Ayers meme will make a comeback too.

Boo.

You can pick out the idiots in the crowd when they accuse anyone with democrat tendencies as a communist, marxist whatever. Must have a pretty small brain to generalize about such a large portion of people. It would be like me saying that these idiots all have small penises. Which I hear is true btw. LOL

OMG Saul was a community organizer! Communist Pig!!! Marxist loon!!
so much hate, it has to stem from small genitalia. LOL

Riiiiiight, I’m the one with the illness…..okie dokie!

Of course it was actually the teabaggers astroturf organizers who used Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” to co-opt power in the midterms.  And thank heavens for that, since their idiocy is going to be the direct cause of the coming landslide.

Hey look Rob, drink or post, pick one, it’s clear you can’t do both.

I attended college in the 1980s. I was a lefty. I had been raised a lefty by my lefty father. And many of my classroom experiences were basically conversations between me and my college professors. They ALL knew Alinsky and I had two professors personally recommend to me Rules for Radicals. In any case, you want to know who Saul Alinsky was? He was a street soldier in the war by a bunch of European Jews who were devoted to destroying Western Civilization from within.

I understand that the Tea Party had passed out his book on organizing back in 2009 when they were rudely and loudly interrupting anything resembling peaceable assemblies.

Why… does… that… make… any… difference… you… Che-worshipping…. crapwit… 

Are you seriously saying only people who knew famously vilified people before they were vilified are allowed to have an opinion on them? How is that possible when he died before I was born?

You don’t even know what you’re saying. All you know is how to repeat a series of rote, smart-ass remarks.

Why don’t you get a new hobby other than licking Jon Stewart’s fetid ass hole?

“Che-worshipping…. crapwit… ”
“All you know is how to repeat a series of rote, smart-ass remarks. ”

LOL at YOU!

the boogyman is coming to get you! fear him! fear him!

He was born in Chicago.

Fear and smear, it’s the republican mantra and playbook.

I’m sure the criteria you use for determining whether a post is “dumb” or not are utterly fascinating, Generic Obama Worshipper #234582309235890.

Maybe we can discuss them over coffee sometime, in what I’m sure will be a truly intellectually enlightening and spiritually uplifting exchange!

So…because the right says Obama is linked to him in some sort of conspiracy, we should live in fear of our way of life being dismantled?

Definitely true. The Right also freaks out at the mention (usually by them) of communist control of society but regularly uses the same propaganda tactics that the USSR used via friendly media outlets. In fact, many of the loudest are great at accusing their political opponents of doing whatever it is they’re doing first.

Maher’s a boutique lefty. Wants the media social status of a right-thinking progressive but the lifestyle of Louis XIV. All serious lefties know who Saul Alinsky was. I know because I used to be one.

That’s the biggest bunch of lies I’ve read since Curious George was president.

I noticed you didnt actually deny you worship Che.

Oh well, at least you shure typed “LOL” there reel good, hoping that someone somewhere would be gullible enough to think you somehow made a good point! 

It is truly a shame to use the name Alinsky and Beck in the same sentence (there, I did it again). For the record, shortly before he hit paydirt with the righty schtick, Mr. Beck was a utterly lame d.j. on an fm station(s) in the New Haven, Ct. market. He sucked then and he has not changed much. He has a nicer car, though.

It’s a good thing for your positive-comment ratio that not many people have actually read the book. Perhaps the existence of the word “radical” in the title confused you. It’s understandable.

Every time I hear the meme that liberals are smart or educated I look at Maher and the comments here and laugh.  Maher didn’t know who he was?  Of course he does.  It is just a schtick for him.  The fact that liberals here claim to not know Alinsky verifies their ignorance.  Progressives certainly know him.  He is just a neutral figure?  Hahaha.   Do a little research on this “civil rights” activist.  But the again, if you think Van Jones and FF Piven are your kind of people then all your research will be on far lefty sites that confirm your views.   Alinsky was a major league leftist.  Obama was exposed to all of his teachings.   Obama is a Chicago-school politician.  

You can’t disprove a negative, you dimwit. Tho, I guess I should expect someone as ignorant and hateful as you to understand that.

The fact is, you have no idea my political leanings. You assume and assume some more. Makes you out to be a childish ignoramus. If it wasn’t so much fun making fun of the stupid, I’m sure no one would talk to you.

Who gives a flying crap if Alinsky was Obama’s wet nurse? Alinsky wasn’t someone puppet master plotting a coup. He was a community organizer, which–despite what some of you people think–isn’t a member of Satanic cult. 

The Right still has the mindset that it’s 1930 and the country is in danger of getting taken over by commies. America is so commercialized, so in love with products, that there is zero chance we’re on our way to being a Venezuela. Community organizing isn’t about undermining capitalism. It’s about aiding democracy by getting more people politically engaged. The only people who don’t want that to happen are the people who are comfortably in power now. Hence, the freak-out over and smear campaign against ACORN, which was fundamentally a drive to get more minorities to vote. Rather than let that happen, the Right (via Breitbart & co) decided to fabricate a “scandal,” claiming sinister secret intentions on the part of the organization. They’re doing the same with Alinsky’s legacy. 

would you like me to explain why your reply is stupid? OK, #1 Not an Obama supporter, just always side with the truth! #2 I wouldn’t sit down with you for coffee if you paid me every last penny you have in your over drafted bank acct. From your comments, I can tell, I would want nothing to do with you, people like you are never open to learn new things, your belief system is set in stone, and you want nothing to do with anything that challenges it. 

Plus, I get paid for my thoughts and opinions,  I wouldn’t give that to you for free. Especially since you support the whole “no handouts” mindset. 

“Where’ did you pull that one out of?”
Um, it’s even written in his own book that this guy is clearly portrayed as a father figure after Obama’s biological father left him?

You might as well sit there and type “OBAMA IS HALF BLACK? WHERE DID U GET THAT ONE FRUM YOU PARANOID FOX NEWS SARAH PALIN FOX NEWS ETC ETC”

You’re just one of millions of unbelievably tedious Marxist maggots with all the bravado in the world, but armed with less facts and insight than a toaster.

I have the advantage over you of actually knowing it’s true. :)

I think Obama has been influenced by these forces which have dominated academia for three decades. I think he’s also been influenced by his lefty mother and his issues with racial identity.

Well it reads like bullshit. You try to add credibility by claiming that everybody and your dog was a lefty, but it fails.

Genius, I’m betting you didn’t get an A in spelling. “Bookeyman?” Is that a libertarian word, you Che-worshipping clown. Get over yourself; it’s not too late.

You’ll have to clarify the relevance of this observation for me. Re-read what I wrote. I didn’t say Alinsky was born in Europe. Nor did I imply it. I said he was a foot soldier in a war waged by a bunch of hateful European Jews bent on destroying Western Civilization.

ZING!!

oh, except he only invites little milquetoast Republicans from somewhere like Mass. or California who are like “omgz, im a republican but I just vote yes on everything obama puts forward cus I dont wanna be called racist by an angry lesbian on an obscure cable channel! And bill ur so funee!”

UNZING I guess.

Got any more or is the fatuous farm all-harvested-out?

Maher at his perceptive best.  Just a scroll through the comments section of any Mediaite article demonstrates the truth of it with strange comments like: ‘Obama has done nothing’, ‘Obama is incompetent’, ‘Obama hates / is destroying America’, left by conservatives.  They are not talking about the real Obama but the fantasy, boogyman creation of the right wing media propoganda machine.  I so agree with Andrew Sullivan, of the Daily Beast, who said recently in an interview on the Colbert Report: “Listening to the Republican debate . . . I just didn’t recognise the picture they were painting of this president, either domestically or in foreign policy”.  It’s so pervasive though, it has become Conservative dogma.

In Rob’s defense, that was a typo made by me that he pasted.

Then wouldn’t all presidents who have been educated in American academia be guilty of the same? W. Bush went Yale and so might have been witness to the same “leftist” education.
No one seemed to have a problem with him, as much as they have with Obama that is.

Silly, don’t you know Andrew is just spreading his homosexual agenda? Also, Bill Maher likes him, so he can’t be a real Republican. ;-)

umm… Not to state the obvious here and I know you probably dropped out in 2nd grade or maybe your mom home schooled you with a bible in some wooden shack, BUT…. you are aware that Canibus is a organic plant life and well, a Chemical is….here you read the definition. But since I am dealing with republitards, I thought I’d state the obvious! YOUR STUPID!!  
https://www.google.com/webhp?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS432US432&sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS432US432&site=webhp&q=chemical&tbs=dfn:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=N48jT97JOOfy0gG-0qSzCA&ved=0CCEQkQ4&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=157460438808db25&ion=1&biw=1599&bih=759

Funny conservative? Yeah, find me one, too. Fill you tank up, it’s going to be a long trip. You idea of comedy is probably Dennis Miller, huh? As you may or may not know he was a liberal (there’s that word again) and then he saw an opportunity. I bet that if you had a couple of beers with him you’d find that he was still, yep, a liberal. Nobody with a half-assed intellect could possibly believe the horseshit that the Repubs and token libertarian, Ron Paul, have been selling, in combination with their supporters at FoxNews and the rest of the God-fearing folk. It is inconceivable that any middle class or poor person could vote for any off these hucksters, especially Romney. Let me put it to you this way, if you think that Romney cares for the little guy, I’ve got this bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you.

Life is a little different when you’re inside that bubble. If the left doesn’t even know who is and you’re made to think they do maybe your the one that is being fooled.    

Is it true what they say about black men in that department?

If it is, I think I just figured out why Saul Alinsky liked hanging out on the south side of Chicago so much.

Bill you don’t remember Uncle Saul, he was your dad’s crazy uncle, that your family would whisper about and poor uncle Saul he was never invited to family occasions.
But that is the way Saul preferred it because he didn’t like his family very much.

Since he was only a street/foot soldier, and not a “Hateful European Jew,” shouldn’t he be inconsequential?

Of course, not. There are theoreticians and then there are the implementers. As there was Marx there was Lenin and Trotsky.

No…you were and are still are a vacuous idiot. Big difference. 

“Vacuous idiot” is a redundancy. P.S. Yawn.

You seriously have some derangement issues. Go get some pussy and stop being some lame guttersniping teabagger. 

I wouldn’t sit down with you for coffee if you paid me every last penny you have in your over drafted bank acct.

Plus, I get paid for my thoughts and opinions,

I’ll go out on a limb and guess that you aren’t paid for your thought on economics.

They suffer from ontological insecurity. Scientifically determined. 

You do realize… oh wait almost forgot who I was talking to. Nevermind. Just wasted time talking to this child.

That’s hilarious hearing “you can’t have one thing and have another” from someone who no doubt is so utterly deluded, hubris-filled and cognitively feckless that they think  the West doesn’t have to choose between post-13th century social values and “Respecting Islamic people’s rights”.

There is no point in trying to brings fact to an argument with people who think Obama is worse thing since the holocaust. Like Maher says. They live in a bubble and only allow what they agree with or what they can wrap their small brains around, in.

Whether or not I am a conservative, to which I don’t want to say if I am or not. I would be ashamed to see my fellow conservatives in such a fervor over fear-mongering of politicians and well paid radio hosts. They are entitled to their opinions, but when they start messing with the facts, that’s where they lose me.

Exactly. Limousine liberals. Champagne socialism has been a more popular name for it here in Europe. Among the worst humanity has to offer.

In that respect, Alinsky was a theoretician, and your professors were implementers.

 theres more conservative butthurt going on than the last time rick santorum let jerry sandusky watch his kids.

I was raised by a hardcore lefty parent so, if you really think I’m so stupid, you know who to blame.

kthxbye.

Don’t forget his kenyan anti-colonial views.

Can you be both?

kenyan anti-colonial and Alinsky foot soldier?

Wait,  you said  Saul Alinsky was a street soldier in the war by a bunch of European Jews against Western Civilization.
 I thought Obama hated the Jews.

tee hee hee

OBAMA IS HALF BLACK? WHERE DID U GET THAT ONE FRUM YOU PARANOID FOX NEWS SARAH PALIN FOX NEWS ETC ETC”

Another huge crime in Marxland – people being allowed to express themselves loudly.

Thank you

My night was boring.

Coupla drinks, and reading you.

better that watching Maher tonight.

Yeah, you.
Take some personal responsibility and educate yourself with facts. blaming your parents? boo freaking hoo.
mommy and daddy shouldn’t be responsible for how you are as an adult. Then again, I’m not quite sure you are an adult.

Lashing out with accusations before who the heck you are talking to. Blaming others for your level of intelligence. Sounds like it might be level of maturity and or age.

Maybe the conservative hero of Glenn Beck is right. Maybe you should educate yourself by reading a book or two. I know it sounds hard, turning those pages and moving your eyes left to right, up and down. But, I can assure you, it’s all for the best.

kthnxbye.

Hannity, is that you?

you seem to have a clear view of your rectum from where your head is as well.

@rob2385/////////THE BUFFOON…..

: )

As Ace Ventura might say

Descending into self-parody much?

Kinda funny.

It was just earlier today, on the birther thread, I said Alinsky is only a bad thing to wackos who listen to wackos.

all the “like” bots are talking now?

going full force this year hmm?

Liberal lessons in total-NOT HAVING SCHIZOPHRENIA AT ALL

lesson 1

“White people blaming their immediate family” – deserving of mockery
“Black people blaming events that happened 50 or 250 years ago ” – kill NASA and use the money to set up a whole new department at Harvard studying and celebrating these poor poor people’s valid complaints and give them a medal

CLASS DISMISSED DON’T FORGET THE POP QUIZ ON WEDNESDAY

What the heck is a boutique lefty?

All leftys know Saul Alinsky just because you did.
Does that mean all rightys are Racist homophobes who cheat on their wives while preaching family values?

Birthers are hysterical.

I actually met him, back in my college daze. He was a terrifically direct & focussed speaker, with a marvelously whimsical sense of comic creativity. If he were in his peak years today, he’d be a top blogger & a regular guest on talk shows. Maher missed him because Maher was born in the generation after Alinsky’s book came out, & because he obviously took some other course of studies in college. 

I actually think it’s wonderful his name is making a comeback; every time I hear Newt raise his name, it makes me smile. People here should understand that conservative political operatives have been studying his book, Rules For Radicals, for decades, & a lot of what wingers do in framing political memes comes from things Alinsky wrote about for organizing working people into unions & poor blacks into neighborhood political entities that the powers that be had to deal with. Newt Gingrich is around the right age to have been especially impacted by when Alinsky’s book came out in the early 1970s – it was instantly required reading in every political science program in the nation. It’s a peculiar Newt inside joke that he’s raising Saul’s name all the time as ‘the enemy’, because Newt’s put just about everything Alinsky prescribed into action at some point in his political career. I SUSPECT it’s something Newt does as an aide memoire – whenever he’s thinking of using something Alinsky wrote about, he ties it into a phony attack on Alinsky. 

@rob2385 is his number in the mental institution…..rob2385 has a mental illness that he keenly didn’t know he had for  a long time……Stupidity also…..buffoon also….Dingbat also……..he is also a heinous freak from ????????……..

You must be a youngster or from some part of middle America. Literally ALL of my non-hard science college professors were left-wing. And this was easy to discern because Reagan was the President at the time and they hated him and made no secret about it.

This was so off-point and inconsequential I simply had to give you a thumbs up.

When I type something not even half as gross as that about Jon Stewart I get told by liberals to “seek help”.

Looks like you’re the ones who need help – help to be able to deal with receiving the same nasty stuff you dole out on a daily basis. And you call conservatives crybabies… aaw

I don;t think Obama hates Jews at all. On the contrary, he sees them as brothers in arms.

No, that doesn’t necessarily follow. Bush jr. had other powerful old-school waspy influences. Nevertheless, he still succumb to the neo-con world view.

Well, perhaps. I don’t find this point particularly relevant. He wrote a book about on-the-ground implementation of radical political ideas. We can agree on that much can’t we?

Here’s a terrific interview of Saul, done by the great People’s Writer himself, Studs Terkel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQtwo8lp_E8 

(If you listen just a bit, you’ll find that far from approving of Barack Obama’s approach, beginning at seeking mediated political solutions  & sticking with it as long as possible, is something Saul would have been just as dismissive as, as Bill Maher is. Indeed, Saul’s just the sort of guest Maher would be begging to have on his show.)

We have no idea your political leanings? ROFL!

do tell. what is it that I wrote that would give away my political leanings?

Did you even watch the show tonight schmuck?

Good Lord, you folks in the Orly Taitz fan club are truly insane.
Let me guess, you also belive the moon landing is a hoax, Elvis is alive and the world will end when the Mayan calendar runs out?

Alinsky sounds East European, which then rings the communist bells.

It echoes more convincingly in the bubble. ;)

and isn’t funny how these freedom-loving conservatives, despite their supposed anti-communist crusade,  are the first to want to trade with the brutal regime in China?

Any time Republicans lose an election, they get hysterical and claim the Democrat is “the most radical lib’rul in the history of ever anything!”
Remember, 20 years ago, these same boneheads were trying to claim Bill Clinton was an agent of Soviet Russia. Guess they missed that booming capitalist economy that came about because of his secret Marxist agenda.

speaking of diseases, I hear a lot of folks caught gonorrhea from Ayn Rand.

yup – he was a failed morning zoo crew host. It’s amazing that the right bases their entire faith on the lame publicity stunts of bad rock DJs.

meanwhile, when asked about those behind the rightwing, these same folks are like, “Richard Melon Scaife? Never heard of him. Who are these Koch Bros that you speak of?”

I guess Newt milked that Sharia Law thing dry. And he can’t use gay marriage and flag burning to whip the idiots into a frenzy like he did in the 90s.

T-BAGGERS have also been known to follow the teachings of Saul. Too bad they deny it now.

Birthers are pawns. They’re too dumb to realize that they’re basically helping Obamager re-elected. It’s like what Truthers were for Bush. I just call them racists & lau at them. The. They try so hard to convince me they’re right. LOL

LOL

Did Jerry Sandusky watch you when you were a kid, Rob? I’m sorry. LOL

So you hate your parents. Now things are starting to make sense.

Marxist maggot! Wow, Rob is pulling out stuff from the Cold War here. Whatever you say, capitalist swine.

I didn’t catch the actual show, just watched this clip. Is the “Saul Bellow” tag part of the joke? Saul Bellow was a novelist who wrote about the lives the rich, and the guy in that picture is certainly not Saul Bellow, but looks very like Alinsky – it actually looks like an iconic photo of Alinksky. Is Maher trying to emulate Stewart on the Daily Show with putting up ‘funny’ taglines, as in, all this bellowing by the wingers is about this guy here named Saul? 

To your point: as I said above, knowing who Saul Alinsky was is probably mostly a matter of when you were born & the politics of the 1960s & early 1970s. For example, it would surprise me if Obama, once he determined to become a community organizer in Chicago, didn’t know who Alinsky was, but it would not surprise me if Obama didn’t know it before then, because the entire political atmosphere changed through the 1970s, so by the time Obama went to Columbia for his undergrad degree, Alinsky’s book may not have been standard curriculum fare at that time – although it certainly was from when it came out & for several years following his death. 

I should add that it’s unlikely in the extreme that Obama ever met Alinsky. Alinsky died in 1972, when Obama was 10 or 11, and as I understand, had never even been to Chicago. The kind of person Alinsky’s book would have the greatest impact on would be someone in his or her late teens to early twenties, which didn’t happen with Obama until ~1980 – 8 years after Alinsky had died. Also, Alinsky was about as far from the Hyde Park crowd that Obama ran with as one can imagine: pure hard-boiled working class, a veteran of the labor-Pinkerton battles & the Civil Rights protest marches. None of that matches in the least everything we know about Obama, who’s focus both as a community organizer & as law lecturer was on organizing for the ballot box & on bringing about improvements by involving communities, political power & private interests in negotiated projects of mutual interest. That sort of thing would have been completely foreign to Alinsky’s experience, & the last place I can imagine Alinsky ever being caught dead in would be in negotiations in a corporate boardroom. As I mentioned above Alinsky wouldn’t have trusted Obama as far as he could throw him: he would have called him a sell-out.

Either that or “all”; one or the other.

Yeah, anyone who read Saul’s book would know he was there to stick it to the man. What Newt & other wingers did was PERVERT Alinsky’s “Rules” to winger purposes. To actually follow what he did, you’d have to look at the Occupy movement & kick it up a notch or two. 

That’s a value judgment. As I understood Rules, and Alinsky, he despised poverty & exploitation of workers & the poor. That didn’t make him an enemy of America – that made him an enemy of the exploiting class. It also didn’t make him a communist, although it’d be hard to argue he wasn’t a socialist – but then, there was a time in this country when literally tens of millions of people were socialists. Indeed, Justice Kagan’s parents were socialists. Socialist governments actually hold power in Europe quite regularly, yet their countries are still capitalist & have at least as much liberty as we have (and a lot MORE than some of us imagine we have). Socialist governments get elected into power fairly regularly in Canada; indeed the current main national opposition party there is socialist, & I’d bet they’ve got at least even odds of being elected into government the next election – but Canada will still be a capitalist trade-based country. I think it was quite possible that the U.S. would have had a socialist president by now if it hadn’t been for several Democratic presidents bringing in some important basic socialist programs, like civil rights, medicare, social assistance & large infrastructure investments aimed at employment.   

He wasn’t a theoretician at all. He was TACTICIAN. He taught techniques for community & street organization; his work just ASSUMES that’s for the benefit of the working poor. 

It’s Newt’s version of a dog whistle. Limbaugh & Michael Savage already tuned up the wingers into believing Alinsky took Obama under his wing & taught him everything he & Che & Mao cooked up during a seminar getaway, so Newt just picked it up rather than actually attributing a lot Newt does as a campaigner to where he got it from, which is Alinsky. 

Tell you one guy that Alinsky would really like: Stephen Colbert. Alinsky was a great believer & teacher of the power of mocking your opponent.

OK. So YOU know about him. That proves what?
I never heard of him until Beck made him a big deal. Of course, I’m just a “moderate left,” so I guess that proves very little, too.
Let me just say that Saul Alinsky is nowhere near as influential as your paranoid mind wants him to be.

Raygun wasn’t nearly as great as the current crop of Repubs want him to have been.

That anti-colonial thing is kinda weird. I think all Americans are supposed to be anti-colonial (rebelled against being a bunch of British colonies) so Obama being anti-colonial should be a very good thing. Just as important today as ever, by the way.

Now may be a good time to mention the paper that got Gingrich a PhD.
Belgian Education Policy in the Congo: 1945-1960
During that time, the Congo was a colony of Belgium, and Belgium was particularly nasty to the locals in the Congo but that didn’t bother Noot.

The only time I ever heard or saw Saul Alinsky’s name mentioned by anybody but Glenn Beck was when Noot did it during the last debate. The other place I have seen in mentioned very frequently is right here, and ALWAYS by the paranoid right, who got it from Glenn Beck.

Fact is, it is the ultimate in desperation that caused Noot to bring him up. Noot knew he was losing that debate so he mentioned Glenn Beck’s second favorite bogyman. 

That Mayan calendar thing is the most credible of the set.

The name sounded familiar, I didn’t know who that hell that was. either. Since it came out of Newt’s mouth and some his previous comments, I thought, it was someone connected with the ideology of Karl Marx, Stalin, or Hitler. I finally googled this guy trying different spelling combinations. I guess you have to be from Illinios or more specifically from Chicago to know.  

Yeah, Alinsky died when Obama was a kid. If only Alinsky had ever written any books Obama read, or founded any organizations Obama worked for…

are all conservatives 12 years old?

But if libruls do it they are a “sore on the face of America” right?

Hypocritical imbecile.

I had no ideea who Alinsky was until the teabaggers I was talking to started ranting and raving about him.  Then I did some research, and predictably he turned out to be a great man who cared about other people, particularly poor people.  That and he’s got a Jewish name is why they hate him I guess.

Interesting that a caveman would talk about 13th century social values.

I think if you actually examined right wing islamic extremism you would find it very attractive.

And “conservatives” yet again invoke Alinsky and his importance without explaining how he is relevant. I’ve read Alinsky, and I’ve yet to have an intelligent conversation with a conservative about what his role in their great conspiracy.

Alinsky taught poor people how to fight against entrenched interests. He was a community organizer. Dismiss it as unimportant if you wish, but don’t simultaneously treat him as a great danger to civilized discourse.

“I don’t find this point particularly relevant.” -It’s 2012 and one chapter from a book by a man nobody’s heard of who died 40 years ago is seemingly relevant again.  Everything’s relevant.

I agree.  I don’t see how he could know that every social science and humanities professors knew about the guy, unless he was on the syllabus the way Nietzche is in some university subjects.  Otherwise, it’s bullshit.

He is Obama!

Does anyone know anything about the ad that runs after the Maher segment?  WTF is that?  Seriously, look at it.  Can you just buy ad time to run after the main video?

Saul is Obama’s father.

You are an idiot

Yeah and no one has be influenced  by Locke,  Jefferson, Lincoln, Washington, Hitler, Lenin, or Marx because because they are all dead.

Thanks for the laugh.

Just like the flush toilet…very few of you know who created it, but every one of you use it on a regular basis.
If snarky dumbasses like WiddleBabyD. even bothered to read up on Alinsky’s tactics, they’d realize that every lefty comment on this site exemplifies every tactic Alinsky recommended.

For example, let’s use your very last comment, Danielson:

–Mocking & ridiculing “all rightys” = Rule # 5

–Unwillingness to answer a question directly, instead responding with your own question = Rule # 10

–Derisively labeling all conservatives as “Racist homophobes who cheat on their wives while preaching family values”  
= Rule # 4 and Rule # 11…a two-fer! Nicely done!

That you can be such natural experts at Alinsky’s Tactics while claiming complete ignorance of Alinsky himself means either you are  living proof that Gingrich & Beck are entirely justified with their concerns about Alinsky’s controversial work…
…or you’re just a despicable liar.
And that only proves Gingrich & Beck right as well.

Saul Alinksy sounds like a pretty decent fellow. 

This is what’s so frustrating about the race “debate”. You have conservatives calling liberals racist because liberals put policies in police to counteract the fact that many minorities have less access to money and other amenties.

Conservatives turn this in to “you think minorities are too stupid to help themselves? RACIST!”

IT’s like telling a black person during slave times “you need the help of the white men to help free you? WEAK! You think the other black slaves aren’t strong enough to rise up without the help of the white man? You are racist against blacks!”

It’s bizarre and scary and gives a little insight into maybe how nazi’s justified doing horrible things to people.. it’s because you dehumanize people into a “group” so that way they all have the same identity to you. Sort of like how Republicans think all welfare recipients are lazy black people having babies on the government dime. They don’t realize how messed up their thinking has become.

Saul Alinsky?  Hey isn’t that they guy who owns the deli down the street?  He may as well be – for surely most of this country doesn’t know, or care who he is – or what he may, or may not have done. 

He is dead and buried for many years now – but his legacy lives on in the paranoia of many a republican stalwart and zealot.

Most of us have trouble enough dealing with the living.  Shown by just having to deal with trying to understand who best can lead this nation – in the R primary – or for others; if they want to re-elect Obama.  Ah yes, the living.

So, while I said yesterday that I look at this matter (pres. and brewer), as a matter of “respect” – to make it more is just a matter of – much ado about nothing.

It is funny how the loosing side always calls the other idiot. Resorting to insult does not make anybody right, in fact defines him as exactly what they accuse the others of being.

It is funny how the loosing side always calls the other idiot. Resorting to insult does not make anybody right, in fact defines him as exactly what they accuse the others of being.

How do you spot an idiot? It’s easy, they start calling the Obama a socialist or a marxist. Uninformed morons. Not worth even trying to have an intelligent conversation. They blame every problem in America on him. They hate him so much their heads explode. Just roll your eyes and move on.

Ever read Humboldt’s Gift?  One of my all-time favorites.

And liberals call republicans dumb?

Hillary Clinton was mentored by and did her college thesis on Alinsky.

Maher is either trying to fool his audience, or is truly ignorant. I would say he fits well into both categories.

Alinsky was well know as a  socialist, if not, Marxist. In the 60′s, the far leftists followed his ideology and teachings. These are the same fools who now teach our kids!

Maybe it’s time for the dumb-down dems to start doing their homework. The average democratic voter seems to be clueless.

You might not know Alinsky’s name, but liberals have followed his tactics for years. College professors have been teaching his words and works for decades!

If you do get paid for your thoughts and opinions, ( which, by the way, is redundant) you had better go back to school.

Learn how to write and punctuate correctly. Otherwise, your comments read like an 8th grade essay!

Did you know…….Alinsky dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals, to “Lucifer?”

Research this well-known fact!

And…..Obama is doing the same!

Your point?

He never asked a question Dumba$$

speaking of likes
Why are yours all from hijacked names?

Well he sure hasn’t changed.

So all of the Republican candidates are wrong?

And he dissed queen Palin.

That’s rather the point, hon. Saying “Obama couldn’t have been influenced by Alinsky because Alinsky died when Obama was a kid” is very stupid.

actually, you’re the buffoon. the Tea Party well recognizes that Alinsky’s tactics work for both sides of the aisle. many TP activists have been buying Rules for Radicals and making that their primer.

but of course you don’t KNOW anybody in the tea party, and you have no freaking idea what you’re talking about, but since you’re a liberal that’s ok.

Maher is either trying to fool his audience.

He always try to fool his audience  or completly contorts a subject or story.Same thing Butch Maddow does.Which is in fact a Alinsky tactic in itself.

I went to Sonoma State in the 80′s and majored in Sociology.  No Saul Alinsky.  Probably just my inferior college education.

New rule: If you claim that you don’t know “who the f#ck” someone is, then don’t offer an opinion on who he is by cherry picking Wikipedia. Educate yourself first.

Leftists must be really terrified of Obama’s links to Alinsky because within days now you have Bill Maher, CNN and the Washington Post all doing their best to defend Obama from charges he uses Alinsky tactics.

Typical Maher, he skims wikipedia and he is now an expert on Alinsky.  He didn’t mention Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” book.  Read his rules and you see a striking resemblance to the Obama administration tactics.  Also, Dems don’t make crap uP?! Then what the hell is the whole truther movement! By the way Republicans do bring up the President’s failing and all Maher and his cohorts do is cover their ears and yell “Racists!”.

Dont you have a Glenn Beck rally of 20 old farts in lawnchairs to attend?

Absolutely. While I hate the fact that “Nazi” and “Hitler” are used all the time as political insults, some of the scenes in 2009 brought it to mind, particularly when Tea Partiers were screaming at a man who had Parkinson’s, with one of them even throwing money at him, because he supported healthcare reform. The handful of people screaming at the guy didn’t seem to see him as a person with a life equal to their own but as the representative of some abstract idea in their minds (in this case, the “lazy lib who wants to live off of Big Government”). To be fair, both sides do it, but the most heated words and actions seem to come from the Right (like the guy who stomped on the girl protesting against Rand Paul), in my opinion. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ik4f1dRbP8 

What the truther movement is democrats ?.
Say whaat !! …  those truther movements that vote for Ron Paul in the republican race
are democrats…  what are you smoking Ryan ?.

CNN Turns Blind Eye To Obama-Alinsky Ties

Posted 01/26/2012 06:54 PM ET

Journalism: As the president
launches his re-election bid by striking a more centrist tone, the
partisan press is helping him whitewash his radical past. Teamwork or
not, it’ll be hard to bleach.

Exhibit A is CNN’s Soledad O’Brien. Earlier this week, she hosted a
segment that tried to de-link Obama from Chicago socialist Saul Alinsky.
The late Alinsky is the father of community organizing and the author
of the far-left bible “Rules for Radicals.”

O’Brien opened her piece by scolding GOP front-runner Newt Gingrich
for warning Obama “will represent Saul Alinsky (and) European socialism”
in a second term. “President Obama has never said that he was
influenced by Alinsky,” O’Brien insisted.

Of course he hasn’t. He’s not stupid enough to publicly link himself
to a socialist. But the record is clear that he was in fact influenced
by Alinsky, if only CNN’s “journalists” would do their homework. Allow
us to do it for them:

• Obama first learned Alinsky’s rules in the 1980s, when Alinskyite
radicals with the Chicago-based Alinsky group Gamaliel Foundation
recruited, hired, trained and paid him as a community organizer in South
Side Chicago. (Gamaliel’s website expressly states it grew out of the
Alinsky movement.)

• In 1988, Obama even wrote a chapter for the book “After Alinsky:
Community Organizing in Illinois,” in which he lamented organizers’
“lack of power” in implementing change.

• Gamaliel board member John McKnight, a hard-core student of
Alinsky, penned a letter for Obama to help him get into Harvard Law
School.

• Obama took a break from his Harvard studies to travel to Los
Angeles for eight days of intense training at Alinsky’s Industrial Areas
Foundation, a station of the cross for acolytes.

• In turn, he trained other community organizers in Alinsky agitation tactics.

• Obama also taught Alinsky’s “Power Analysis” methods at the University of Chicago.

• During the presidential campaign, Obama hired one of his Gamaliel
mentors, Mike Kruglik, to train young campaign workers in Alinsky
tactics at “Camp Obama,” a school set up at Obama headquarters in
Chicago. The tactics helped Obama capture the youth vote like no other
president before him.

• Power would no longer be an issue, as Obama infiltrated the highest
echelon of the political establishment — the White House — fulfilling
Alinsky’s vision of a new “vanguard” of coat-and-tie radicals who “work
inside the system” to change the system.

• After the election, his other Gamaliel mentor, Jerry Kellman (who
hired him and whose identity Obama disguised in his memoir), helped the
Obama administration establish Organizing for America, which mobilizes
young supporters to agitate for Obama’s legislative agenda using “Rules
for Radicals.”

• Obama’s favorite rule is No. 13: “Pick the target, freeze it,
personalize it and polarize it.” You see that in his attacks on “fat cat
bankers,” “greedy health insurers” and “millionaires and billionaires.”
He also readily applies Alinsky’s fifth rule of “ridiculing” the
opposition.

“Obama learned his lesson well,” said David Alinsky, son of the late
socialist. “I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is
being applied successfully beyond local community organizing.”

Bizarrely, O’Brien was more than willing to connect Alinsky with the
Tea Party, without citing a shred of real evidence to back up the silly
claim. The CNN anchor closed her segment by saying she would pin
Gingrich down on his supposedly misleading claims. “We will be sure to
ask the former speaker the next time we get a chance to talk to him
about that,” she said.

Wouldn’t it make more sense to just ask Obama? You know, “Mr.
President, have you ever read Alinsky’s ‘Rules for Radicals’”? Or “Have
your ever trained at organizations founded by Alinsky?”

Is she really this clueless? Or is she covering for Obama? Either
way, it does not reflect well on a journalist of her stature and
influence.

It’s plain CNN plans to gloss over the president’s radical past in this campaign, just like it did in 2008.
http://news.investors.com/ArticlePrint/599154/201201261854/media-ignores-obama-alinsky-rules-for-radicals.aspx?p=1&ibdbot=1

I am already aware of this. This will be the hardest part to explain to someone who is a Christian (I’m not) but Lucifer is viewed by non-Christians as a mythological creature (like Zeus or Pan) whose only power in the world is as a symbol, in this case, the power of rebelling against a system to implement change. Alinsky was clearly an atheist, so the dedication is somewhat tongue-in-cheek. The thing is that if you look at many of the cultural and historical figures that political thought was influenced by you’ll find that, on both sides of the political spectrum, there is a large number of people who have totally different views of spirituality, many of which would be considered heretical by the Christian church. Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton and Benjamin Franklin, for example, rejected the view that Jesus was the son of god and that anything in the Bible is true (including the vague passages about Lucifer), but instead believed in a Deistic clockwork-type god who didn’t interfere with the world. Their beliefs were more in line with some of the ancient Greeks than with modern Christians, and yet the Right seems to have no problem with them. Of course, right-wing media is sure to gloss over the fact that they were non-believers as well. 

Who the heck is Bill Maher??!!!!

“Occasionally hyperbolic?” Bush as Hitler was routine and let’s not forget the assassination video that was criticized nowhere in Dem land. However raising a finger to the President is disrespectful. The only thing liberals are experts at is unflinching hypocrisy.

An American stand-up comedian, television host, political commentator, author and actor.
Maher is known for his political satire and sociopolitical commentary, which targets a wide swath of topics: religion, politics, bureaucracies of many kinds,political correctness, the mass media, greed among people and persons in positions of high political and social power, the lack of intellectual curiosity of the electorate, among many topics. He supports the legalization of marijuana and same-sex marriage, and serves on the board of PETA. He is also a critic of religion and is an advisory board member of Project Reason, a foundation to promote scientific knowledge and secular values within society. In 2005, Maher ranked at number 38 on Comedy Central’s 100 greatest stand-up comedians of all time. Bill Maher received a Hollywood Walk of Fame star on September 14, 2010.  

Would you like Alinsky better if he was a corporate lobbyist, working for a powerful corporation, instead of working for free, for poor people???

I have read Alinsky’s tactics because Glenn Beck brought him up, and Beck’s followers have carried on the legend. The truth is that they are STANDARD PRACTICE for all politicians. They are how anyone gets elected. The fact that they were used by a socialist does not mean that they are not also perfectly suitable for a fascist or a Republican or a Democrat.

Dick Armey hands a  copy of rules for radicls to his tea bagger leaders.William F Buckley jr said Alinsky”s rules for radicals bordered on genius.Ainsky’ book only scares the one percent and of course the glen beck idiot followers.

As a matter of fact, I found the Bush assassination video every bit as disturbing as this week’s teen shooting holes in a tee shirt depicting this Preisdent, and Brewer’s media op with her crude finger pointing. Democrats DID decry that video. And Bush was evil…starting two wars against people who did not hurt us, and doing it with no funding? That is what has ruined this economy, not anything Obama has done. But hey, what GOPer would dare to credit Obama with ANYTHING, including the death of Bin Laden (I’ve heard that Fox credits Bush for that too) because, golly, it might seem that the man is tough on terror and actually has a brain, and we all know that blacks are dumb and lazy, according to Beck, Gin grich and the rest of the ‘conservative Christians.’ Tell me how it is not hyprocrisy to support Gingrich, the so-called family man who cheated on his wives? How is it not hypocrisy to claim Christianity as your guide, when all the right wants to do is engage us in endless wars, cut funding for ourt own people, eliminate public education, gut programs for the poor and elderly, engage in a war on women, boo a servicemember who is gay, hate any attempt to take care of people through health care…and on and on. Not to mention the demonizing of anyone who doesn’t fit the evangelical mold Perry and Bachmann pretend to follow. You can’t even see your own hypocrisy.

As a matter of fact, I found the Bush assassination video every bit as disturbing as this week’s teen shooting holes in a tee shirt depicting this Preisdent, and Brewer’s media op with her crude finger pointing. Democrats DID decry that video. And Bush was evil…starting two wars against people who did not hurt us, and doing it with no funding? That is what has ruined this economy, not anything Obama has done. But hey, what GOPer would dare to credit Obama with ANYTHING, including the death of Bin Laden (I’ve heard that Fox credits Bush for that too) because, golly, it might seem that the man is tough on terror and actually has a brain, and we all know that blacks are dumb and lazy, according to Beck, Gin grich and the rest of the ‘conservative Christians.’ Tell me how it is not hyprocrisy to support Gingrich, the so-called family man who cheated on his wives? How is it not hypocrisy to claim Christianity as your guide, when all the right wants to do is engage us in endless wars, cut funding for ourt own people, eliminate public education, gut programs for the poor and elderly, engage in a war on women, boo a servicemember who is gay, hate any attempt to take care of people through health care…and on and on. Not to mention the demonizing of anyone who doesn’t fit the evangelical mold Perry and Bachmann pretend to follow. You can’t even see your own hypocrisy.

You know, if Obama is that far left, and has accomplished all he has despite the far far right idiocy of the past three years, I do think I’ll vote for him again, and any Democrat on the ticket. The right wing wants to demolish this nation and turn us into a fascist theocracy…listen to them talk. While the Becks are scaring people about Obama’s nonexistent communism, the right is busy taking away rights and planning to grab more. Look at what the GOP governors have already tried…there is far more to fear from the right than the centrist President.

Republicans are pissed off at newt for using Alinsky tactics on shit romney.

Ignorance is bliss.

Bush never went to class.

It doesn’t make any difference because Chicago is still run by the Democrat political machine and all of the tactics associated with it.

I love it when he defends marriage. And with a straight face. 

At least they didn’t miss that nymph under the desk singing “I’m forever blowing bubbles” or should that be “Bubba”

Don’t know and more importantly I don’t care. I post what I think and don’t care what anyone thinks. Too old to care.

It’s a phrase I made up on the spot. I’ll admit it’s no “limousine liberal” or “radical chic” but cut me some slack. I was intoxicated last night. I don’t expect it to gain immediate currency.

Now why should I take your word for that, anonymous internet person?

For those of you who are unfamiliar with Bellow’s major novels (Herzog, Augie March, Humboldt’s Gift) it’s grossly inaccurate to simply evaluate Bellow’s work as being “about the lives of the rich.” This is so inaccurate, in fact, I suspect Hout Houmever is confusing Bellow with someone else. Perhaps Fitzgerald, Auschinsloss or Henry James. And for the record, Bellow was a right-winger politically and considered a racist by many critics. ;)

You think Rob is pissed now?  Wait until after the election when the liberal Negro is back for an encore 4 years, and the GOP is relegated to the back of the bus………………….again.

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Mr. Brian Williams            

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Dear Mr. Williams,

    
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Jennings. But not Walter Cronkite. He was a grouch, according to unpublished
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Adam Carolla is fairly right wing and funny as hell. Many of the great satirists in history–from Juvenal to Pope to Waugh to Wolfe–have been essentially conservative. On a similar topic, were you aware that 20th-century Anglo-American poetry was practically invented by three political reactionaries? You’d be surprised what your left-wing professors won’t tell you.

The Truther movement is not some Democrat conspiracy. It is a lunatic fringe conspiracy theory that Ron Paul seems to be caught up in.

Alinsky is conservative code word for bogyman. Gingrich mentioning Alinsky in the last debate is proof of how desperate Gingrich is. He had to bring in the code word of the far, far right because Romney was destroying every argument Gingrich had for Gingrich’s own candidacy.

On a side note, two out of three women will not vote for him, no matter what their political beliefs are, and that is just another reason why Gingrich has to come up with more Cold War Code Words.

Sometimes you look at the mess of responses and just say to yourself, “F*ck it.”

I’m not afraid of the word socialism. I grew up in a socialist household and believe in a social safety net. Free nutritious lunches for ALL children. Nationalized healthcare. ”Free” higher education (in quotes because we all know there is nothing under the sun that doesn’t cost somebody else something). However, importing tens of millions of illiterate, unskilled third-world peasanst is the surest way to destroy the possibility of a European-style social Democracy. But Democrats are willing to do this because they know more illegal immigrants means more poor people means more government dependent people means more Democrats. Of course your typical corporatist Republican cares only about himself and interests of the wealthy–which thinks only in terms of cheap labor, with no regard for the long-term impact on the nation. Where we’re headed is Brazil, with a largely white, wealthy aristocracy and a largely black and brown lower class. And an increasingly and justifiably angry white working class. Not a healthy situation.

You ever read King Leopold’s Ghost? Makes Heart of Darkness seem like Charly and the Chocolate Factory!

politicallie, Cal State schools don’t count. Just kidding (not really). But now that I think about it, didn’t Mario Savio teach at Sonoma State? I’m fairly certain that Savio knew who Alinsky was. You might want to investigate this.

This is why:
1) Your posts have no content
2) You invent infantile labels
3) You no doubt watch Fox
4) You no doubt support a GOP candidate that pander to bigots.
5) You responded to my lazy post.

Who the F@#K is Bill Maher?

You left out the part  that he is the bastard son of that well known early 20th century political activists Saul Alinsky, who by the way was the first political activist in that time to come out of the closet !

Most of my professors earned their PhD’s in the 1960s.They knew who Alinsky was just like they knew Guevara, Fanon, Adorno, Marcuse et al. These were the heroes of the New Left. That was what that generation was like. I’m sorry but it’s true. For example, the person who responded to me–politcallie–attended Sonoma State. He/She may not be aware of this, but Sonoma State’s most illustrious professor–the late Mario Savio–was most definitely influenced by Alinsky.

Sol Alinsky  was a communist. He was an organizer and Obama studied his methodology and adhered to his advice. Sol Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky congratulated Obama on his election in the Boston Globe, publicly stating Obama succeeded by employing Alinsky tactics.

It’s well know–and Maher is being disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

“Barack Obama’s training in Chicago by the great community organizers
is showing its effectiveness. It is an amazingly powerful format, and
the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get
the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully,
it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really
happen. Obama learned his lesson well.I am proud to see that my
father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local
community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a
fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.
L. DAVID ALINSKY Medfield”

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/

Obama supported one of those wars. Doesn’t that make him at a minimum, semi-evil?

Saul was Maher’s pappy. because bill’s mammy was sappy.

George Romney, (Mitten’s pappy) met with Alinsky and said he was a jolly good fella that Americans could learn from.  Romney Sr, also said in the same book, that Mittens was greatly influenced by Alinsky.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=pfwl&cp=16&gs_id=9a&xhr=t&q=george+romney+praised+saul+alinsky&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&pbx=1&oq=george+romney+praised+saul+alinsky&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=698494dcdd785fc5&biw=960&bih=465

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=pfwl&cp=49&gs_id=cq&xhr=t&q=george+romney%2BMitt+was+influenced+by+saul+alinsky&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&pbx=1&oq=george+romney%2BMitt+was+influenced+by+saul+alinsky&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=698494dcdd785fc5&biw=960&bih=465

Here’s proof of my point – from about as hard right a winger website as one can imagine that isn’t on an FBI domestic terrorist list: 

http://minx.cc/?post=326180 

You could have linked to a specific article, rather than the entire Google search.  

Anyway, here’s the best of that bunch:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/saul-alinsky-newt-gingrich-obama_n_1236581.html 

But the title is misleading: there’s nothing in the body of the article that actually mentions Mittens’ even reading it, leave aside being impressed by it. It was Mittens’ father, George, who expressed being impressed with it.

There’s also a few ‘graphs on Obama’s reading it, & some quotes from him expressing where he diverges from Alinsky. 

But the World wants to know …Who the F@#k is Bill Maher …and why do we have to keep hearing about his deteriorating mental faculties.

It is surprising that so many people were not introduced to Mr. Alinski’s  political positions during any past history/government classes. The name calling and lack of understanding of who this guy really was is part of the huge problem we have. (I have a very strong opinion of Mr. Alinski, but he is just one person of thousands that are a piece to the puzzle of WHO we are.   When our country needs to have serious debate to “DISCUSS” ideas and/or share opinions, instead of fact sharing and open ideas, read alot of the discord  and realize what we have here.  Until we can agree to dis-agree but still share ideas, we will never improve.  I have heard alot of great ideas from people that I could have dismissed because they didn’t repeat everything  MY WAY.  It is HARD with human nature  to consider that we may not ALWAYS be right.  Do you hear your own remarks??? Blame anyone you want. Call each other names.  We studied  history that provided a communist leader’s famous quote. That quote from long ago is strengthened by the comments here.  He said that his country would not have to fire a shot to take over the United States, for the U.S. would be destroyed from the INSIDE out by it’s own people.

The “assassination video” was simply a movie. A work of fiction. If that’s the best you’ve got, give up.

Also, have you failed to notice all the Tea Party protesters who constantly compare Obama to Hitler?

Ah yes, the “far-left bible” that almost no one on the left has even heard of.

Get serious. Your username is appropriate though, Clueless.

Actually, if you read that book, you’ll see a striking resemblance to the Tea Party’s tactics.

And no, the Truther movement has nothing to do with the Democrats.

No, Clueless, it’s that any links to Alinsky are irrelevant, because Alinsky just isn’t that important. Though given that he was a civil rights activist, it’s understandable why the GOP would hate him.

So we agree Obama is trained in Alinsky tactics, that he uses Alinsky tactics, and Bill Maher is either very stupid, or just acting like it.

LOL.  No I didn’t know that. Bill Maher likes Ann Coulter too, you know.

Actually the Truther movement’s genesis was with the far-left Bush haters.

How many jobs and how much wealth has Alinsky ever created?

Yeah. Not one of his finer qualities.

Those people who were holding the Obama Hitler signs were Lyndon LaRouche fanatics, not Tea Party people, but you already knew that, didn’t you?
Is that the best you’ve got, give up?

Right, you feign ignorance, you cannot figure out a simple wordplay joke and yet you call someone else clueless.

I have no idea. But it says a lot about you that you think getting rich is the sign of a person’s worth.

You mean Congress started the wars didn’t you?  OBTW, Obama sent our troops to war without a declaration of war from Congress. He said he didn’t need Congresses approval because he was Barack Obama. (paraphrased)    The majority of your post is ill informed leftist talking points and rhetoric.

You’ve been well programmed.

Republicans are too bigoted and too stupid to check the numbers on how many whites are on welfare- way more than the number of blacks.

I don’t think every conspiracy theory has to be created by a “Bush hater” or an “Obama hater.” Some of them just pop up. There are as many people who just plain fear governments (and NATO and the WTO and the Illuminati and the Free Masons and you name it) as there are people who “hate” individual politicians and parties.
The Truther thing is an example of that, and far more about distrusting the US government than it is about any personality. It ranks right up there with UFOs and human abduction for probing, which I am certain was Bush’s fault. :-)

I think you’re the putrid cold sore on America’s face and all those righties as dumb or dumber than you.

Not really. What I am really doing is saying Alynski does not deserve credit for any of the ideas individually. They are merely a compilation of the basics of political propaganda, and every politician is a propagandist.

There are three kinds of propaganda. The White propaganda is pure truth. The Black propaganda is pure lies. Gray propaganda is a mixture of truth and lies, and therefore very effective on the weak minded who cannot distinguish the difference.

An example of grey propaganda is that Obama does things that Saul Alynski wrote about, therefore Obama must be a follower of Alynski. I could prove the same use of “Alynski tactics” about Newt and even Romney or Reagan.

You’re full of shit. Repugnants didn’t become assholes until after 1965 when the Civil rights bills were passed. That coincided with Dixiecrats becoming repugnants- family values BS came later.

Earning money is how people eat dumbass.

Let me be the first to call Saul Alinsky a RINO.

You mean the Class Warfare tactics and the “Hate the rich and the Bogyman Capitalist Corporations” rhetoric from the left that you leftist have been spewing for decades now.  

Well during Bush’s years in office I was a regular reader of the popular liberal blogs and after 911 happened they were all raving about either Bush himself plotting the attack or Bush allowing the attack to happen so that he could use it as a pretext for invading Iraq and passing the Patriot Act. So I stand solidly behind with what I said, as I know it as fact.

Now you’re playing games. It’s a matter of fact that Obama studied Alinsky specifically because he wanted to be a community organizer.

OK. “Lots” of folks who hated Bush were willing to believe that Bush was behind 9/11. I believe that Bush played it for all it was worth, and he would not have been reelected if he had not been “lucky” enough to have it happen and know how to make political use of it.

But, that is completely different from believing that Bush wanted it to happen and took steps to make it happen. Believing that requires a whole other level of paranoia that most people simply do not have.

I still say that paranoia like that can and does come from all kinds of crazies, and just because somebody posted that it was Bush’s fault does not mean that they are not ultra-conservatives who do not trust any government, even if it has a Republican in the White House.

How many people today deny that Bush was an ideal Republican? I’m guessing about 95% of the population, but 95% of the population are not truthers.

No, it was not. Its genesis was with anti-government “NWO” conspiracy kooks.

We all know that’s a lie. Care to tell us which liberal blogs were saying this?

Yes.

When?

Bill Maher just made fun of you so we don’t have to.

Tell the truth Sally, you would never vote republican.  

Bill Maher just made fun of you so we don’t have to. Thanks.

You really didn’t have to choose the screenname, Clueless. We could have already figured that one out. Go

Saul Alinsky is required reading in some classes in Ohio high Schools, he’s also the person Hillary Clinton did her thesis in college.  She praised Alinsky in her paper.

Saul Alinsky also dedicated his book “Rules for Radicals” to Satan.  An Obama youth organization has it on their required reading list.

Is that the Saul Alinsky that you people are talking about?

Except those corporations actually did tank the economy  and then demand taxpayers pick up the costs for their failures.

Didn’t you get the memo? According to Gingrich fans, that makes you a stronger president now. 

Darn those colleges and their lib’rul, fancy book-learnin’ bias!

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Where was your fervent anti-communism when corporatist politicians rammed through Most Favored nation status for China year after year – or Bush dressed up in that polka dot suit and went out of his way to kiss up to the Chinese rulers?

Funny, brilliant, and true.

Some “Rules for Radicals,” from Mr. Kumbaya, Saul Alinsky:

Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Here YOU WANT TO CAUSE, FEAR, CONFUSION, AND RETREAT.Rule 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian Church can live up to Christianity.

Rule 5: RIDICULE is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. It also infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

Rule 13: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. As soon as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all of the “others” come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target.

Nastiness of the almost universal variety? Yes.
Constructive? No.

But this is the stuff from which Obama is made:

http://news.investors.com/Article/599154/201201261854/media-ignores-obama-alinsky-rules-for-radicals.htm 

A good Bellow book to read might be his last: “Ravelstein”  -a roman a clef portrait of radical neocon baby daddy Allan Bloom.

You have proof of that?

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That’s the leftists bogyman, 
corporate lobbyist and the filthy rich.  Class warfare right from the Marxists.

Since he was an organizer, I’m sure he created a few jobs.

Mediaite should be questioning Maher’s remark that Ron Paul’s desire to see the United States return to the gold standard is “ridic”. He never elaborated. Just put it out there. Let’s find out why Maher thinks it’s “ridic”.

The corporations may have helped in the tanking of the economy but it was government intervention in the lending markets that started the process. The corporations were going along for the ride.

Saul Alinsky did NOT dedicate his book to Satan, or Lucifer.  I have just examined a photostatic copy of the actual book, as accurately reproduced on a web blog at the Media Matters site. 
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201009200054   The book is clearly dedicated to Alinsky’s wife, Irene.  AFTER the dedication page there are a series of quotes on DIFFERENT PAGE — from Hillel, the learned Jewish rabbi; from patriot Tom Paine, author of “Common Sense,” the basis Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence; and then, an obviously tongue-in-cheek quote from Saul Alinksy himself, in which he irreverently acknowledged Lucifier as the “first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he AT LEAST won his own kingdom…” (emphasis added).  Clearly, the hard right has no sense of humor or irony, and is willing to twist words to its own ideological ends.  To repeat: Alinsky did not dedicate his book to the devil, but was trying to make a point. Granted, I woudn’t have made the allusion that he did, but I also can see it for what it is, and it is certainly not a “dedication.”  The hard right is indeed devilish.  And deceitful.

If you read that on Beck’s blackboard, it’s not true!

What Gingrich and the GOP haven’t confessed is that their favorite PAC – Dick Armey’s Freedom Works, uses the Saul Alinsky training for their people.

Ahh..yet another “Summerhill” graduate…how goes the underground collective?

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Funny, I was just think this is the stuff from which Newt Gingrich is made. I’m not kidding.

Wow.

And you guys wonder why you get labeled as haters. Rwandan radio couldn’t have come up with more invective. Let’s just hope you never need a cop who happens to be a liberal, or emergency room nurse, or a soldier, for that matter. How could you, in good conscience, accept help from someone whose beliefs are so vile? How do you go to work each day knowing that there are liberals somewhere nearby? Or a grocery store? I hear they shop and eat at restaurants too. Oh if only they could be eliminated once and for all. A final solution of sorts. Hmmm. Something to think about.

And you guys wonder why you get labeled as haters. Rwandan radio couldn’t have come up with more invective. Let’s just hope you never need a cop who happens to be a liberal, or emergency room nurse, or a soldier, for that matter. How could you, in good conscience, accept help from someone whose beliefs are so vile? How do you go to work each day knowing that there are liberals somewhere nearby? Or a grocery store? I hear they shop and eat at restaurants too. Oh if only they could be eliminated once and for all. A final, solution of sorts. Hmmm. Something to think about.

dbeall, you will simply have to do better than that. P.S. I suspect your lazy posts are your best.

Who the *&%** is Josh Feldman, who is too stupid to know that Øbama was a FORMAL STUDENT OF THE ALINSKY MOVEMENT:

“Obama trained at the Industrial Areas Foundation, an Alinsky training institute.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/obamas_radical_revolutionits_a.html

Obama and most of his hard-core supporters (and his critics from the Left) HATE America, and believe they have to destroy America before they can rebuild it into some socialist utopia where they get to decide who works where, how much you get paid, how much pay for the bar of soap you’ll be standing in line for.

These are the same SCUM who think communism failed in Soviet Russia because “they didn’t give it enough time”.

Bill Maher and Josh Feldman: pimples on the ass of the obama team trying to pretend there is no there there…

CRUSH THE LEFT IN NOVEMBER.

Study of Bush’s psyche touches a nerve

Julian Borger in Washington

The Guardian

A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism
can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in “fear
and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity”. As if
that was not enough to get Republican blood boiling, the report’s four
authors linked Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and the rightwing
talkshow host, Rush Limbaugh, arguing they all suffered from the same
affliction.
All of them “preached a return to an idealised past and condoned inequality”.
Republicans
are demanding to know why the psychologists behind the report,
Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition, received $1.2m in
public funds for their research from the National Science Foundation and
the National Institutes of Health.
The authors also peer into
the psyche of President George Bush, who turns out to be a textbook
case. The telltale signs are his preference for moral certainty and
frequently expressed dislike of nuance.
“This intolerance of
ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at
premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and
stereotypes,” the authors argue in the Psychological Bulletin.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/aug/13/usa.redbox

Yeah, just like Stalin

They are hardly original and also the same tactics right wingers use to. Rule #5 applies to you, you are an easy target.

Sure, Breitfart himself bragged he was an Alinskyite.

Yeah you have an illness, right wing paranoid delusions

yeah better to be some limousine con and pretend you are a man of the people because you wave the flag and say “god bless” a lot

You are doing the same thing. Sorry but your hypocrisy and gross overgeneralizations are no better

those were great novels but he was more of a moderate than these Beck quoting fatheads we have today

And you have the gall to complain about the lefties here?

BHO is supposed to be much better than us nasty right wingers. Hope, change, unicorns from utopia, etc.

It’s a fact. Nothing to do with Beck. Facts are facts but you’ll never know because you post this nonsense.

He really did. “Less we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement the the very first radical: from all out legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins-or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -Lucifer”

_Saul Alinsky.

Now everyone knows that Media Matters is not a good source for information but it does bring a smile to my face every time one of you people use it.

You go and quote Media Matters all you want. LOL I can read.

Why don’t you just try explaining what it would mean in practical, physical terms and we’ll check that box ourselves.

You’ve just repeated what scrivenerNP said, confirming the accuracy of Media Matters as a source for that information.
Everyone here can read pal. The trick is knowing WTF it is you are reading.

I guess Mr Communist Inspirer my be rolling over in his grave with Obamacare then.
The chance to implement universal health care, what could be a true communist social policy in the heart of capitalism…. and Obama wen’t with the “It’s mandatory for everyone to pay private health insurers”. The GOP’s own proposal from the 90s.

Hi,
In your disturbing signs that Obama was influenced by Saul Alinsky list, you left off anything he’s done since being elected POTUS. So, you know, that’s rather a large hole in your theory about the significance of this.
Regards.

Please don’t try to tie Ron Paul to the 9/11 Truthers.
Just because he whored out his reputation to indulge fringe whacko group #738 doesn’t mean than he believes in them any more than the previous 737.
It just means that they will donate money to him every 4 years to almost run for President.

At some point someone’s going to figure out why he will pander to every crazy idea of the audience on Alex Jones’ radio show and none at a Republican debate.

Uses his tactics? We’re talking about the POTUS who has had a full term. How terrified should anyone be when you’re talking about tactics instead of referencing the actual Saul-like policies he’s put into practice after gaining the Most Powerful Man In The World chair?

You keep that thought PAL, but it doesn’t change the facts. Nice vulgarity also, it’s really makes your point.

An opinion from Media Matters about what is written is just par for the course for you’r so-called unbiased source who only exists to denigration people who disagree with the left.

You’re funny, but not accurate. You depend on other peoples opinions from a dubious sources.

You’re really an intelligent thinker Shanked and your comedy act has made my day. LOL

Now he’s the President and he’s about to become a 2 term one. What’s your point?
Is it that Bill Ayers is scary and we haven’t seen his birth certificate yet? Because it does have that familiar ring to it.

the corporations are the boogyman.

change is needed. progress.

It’s because you guys are a myth. just like Bigfoot…. your spotted by some people on a certain day. and then you creeply walk away to the depths of wherever you sleep. Most likely a cave made of your own poo.

Rectal cranial retraction therapy may help you.  Couldn’t hurt in any case.

Keep getting your “facts” from those right-wing fantasy sites.

“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology and history (and who is to know when mythology leaves off and history begins – or which is which) the very first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom – Lucifer” – Saul Alinsky.

http://www.amazon.com/Rules-Radicals-Saul-Alinsky/dp/0679721134/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327862623&sr=8-1#reader_0679721134

“They didn’t give it enough time.” That’s the same argument the anarcho-free market capitalists are making in 2012 after the world economy crashed in 2008 as to why to not re-regulate Wall Street.

You say, “Writing acknowledgments to Lucifer to reflect what’s in your book is an every day thing for writers. You see it all the time, really.”

So what you say Saul did, you also say writers do every day, like using a typewriter to write. And yet, you point it out as if it is something unique to Saul that needs special attention.

And you still haven’t given any concrete attribution to your claim other than to say that it wasn’t Media Matters.

However, you can be comforted that if I was PolitiFact, I would rate your claim as “Half True.”

Sarcasm, huffy, look up the definition, you’d be surprised at what it is.

LOL! Silly me. It’s getting more difficult to tell between the people who are seriously wacky lunatics and the people making fun of the seriously wacky lunatics. I should’ve known from the start from your dedication to Lucifer line that you are making fun of the seriously wacky lunatics and that you are not really one of them. Kudos! You got me!

Are you talking about Libya?  Its over!  No American boots on the ground.  Gadaffi is dead. Libya is electing a democratic government. Huge success.  Many Presdients have done short term actions such as Libya. Reagan, Bush I, Clinton.   

Talk about stating the obvious! The results are akin to saying the sun rises in the east.

I declare: Godwin’s Law.

Dehumanize into a group’ So right- that’s exactly what the Democrats have been doing for years under slavery, blocking school house doors in the South, and mind/group/ control. Anybody who is interested could easily find the truth by getting their head out of the sand. Abe was a Republican; the first dozen black politicians were Republican; blacks voted primarily Republican for years, until FDR started govt programs which led to the civil rights act ( as Democrats filibustered against it ) but Republicans supported;  which unfortunately lead to the dissemination of much of the family structure of the black community ( and whites, etc. as well ) with broken homes, single-parenthood exploding due to absentee fathers; exploding govt spending on education, welfare, spending programs that were going to solve everything, but ending up making it worse and worse, and the proponents of all this used racism/ victimization propaganda to further their own aims for power and the federal trough as the US slowly and inexorably declined in the quality of good citizenship and an educated populous. Alas! So much to reveal and so little time.

Now everyone knows that Media Matters is not a good unbiased source for information

Sure, provided that you define “everyone” to mean “people who spend
most  of their free time watching ‘Fox and Friends’ and masturbating
over images of Sarah Palin.”

You go and quote Media Matters all you want. LOL I can read.
[...]
You’re head is screwed on straight. LOL

Perhaps you can read, but you clearly can’t write, given your inability
to tell the difference between “your” and “you’re,” a grammatical
distinction that most fourth-graders would have little trouble
grasping.   Then again, most fourth-graders would probably be also be
able to understand the difference between a book dedication and a
tongue-in-cheek acknowledgment, so perhaps I’ve simply overestimated
your intelligence — and I thought you were pretty dim to begin with.

It’s not his.   It’s just something he cut and pasted off a right-wing hate site.

The “9/11 truther” movement has nothing to do with Democrats –it was created by a weird amalgam of far-left Bush haters and far-right “New World Order” conspiracy loons.   Maher himself was heckled by “truthers” on his own program when he called them out as fringe lunatics.

It also sounds Jewish, which for many people on the far right, also equates to “communist.”   But yes, you do get the sense that if the guy’s name were “Fred Jones” or “John Smith,” we’d probably be hearing a lot less about him from the wingnut contingent.  

Aw, poor widdle Robbie.   Want some cheese to go with that whine?

Oh, and thanks for proving his point, dumbass.

And liberals call republicans dumb? Hilary Clinton was mentored by and did here college thesis on Alinsky.

If Hilary Clinton is your idea of a progressive, then you’re not even bright enough to qualify for “dumb” status.    But don’t worry about it — somewhere out there, I’m sure there’s a pole with your name on it.

by the time Obama went to Columbia for his undergrad degree, Alinsky’s book may not have been standard curriculum fare at that time – although it certainly was from when it came out & for several years following his death.

I studied at Columbia in the mid-1980s and majored in history, where my professors included avowed leftists like Jim Shenton, Walter Metzger and Eric Foner, who taught a course on the history of American radicalism.   And I can state for a fact that Saul Alinsky’s work didn’t appear on any of their reading lists.

Vulgarity is a sign of a small mind Shamsky, thanks for you idiotic post. Typical nonsense from you.

I can correct my typo’s but you will always be a dimwitted fool hiding behind vulgar idiocy.

Thanks.

The Government insisted on those companies taking  bailout money but you keep those anti-Government, anti-business feelings Bob.

You must have been sleeping during the bailout deals that Obama has been forcing on the Banks and other companies.

It was Barney Frank and Crissy Dodd coupled with the Liberal Democrats that insisted that everything was just fine and dandy in the housing industry.  I have it on tape and it’s all over the internet.

Please stay in your fantasy land that most of you people dwell in.

Newt is an amateur compared to Obama and his crew.

OWS total member participation doesn’t equal one Patriots rally.

When?

Very intelligent response Bret.  You said “poo” lol.

When?

She doesn’t have any proof.  It’s liberal rhetoric without facts.

http://www.freedomworks.org/news/albanys-freedomworks-manager-trains-group

http://www.drudge.com/news/152925/tea-party-likes-saul-alinsky

Freedom Works gives copies of Saul Alinsky’s book and uses it for training Tea Party Activists.

http://www.drudge.com/news/152925/tea-party-likes-saul-alinsky

I would suggest that you find out who Saul Alinsky is.  It seems that Freedom Works trains all the Tea Party Activists using the Saul Alinsky method.

Yes, the same Saul Alinsky that the Tea Party Republicans use through Dick Armey’s FreedomWorks organization.

http://www.drudge.com/news/152925/tea-party-likes-saul-alinsky

Interesting.  I have a copy myself.  I use it to recognize the current tactics of the left.

Thanks.

Thanks, Knowing and recognizing the tactics of Obama and the leftists is important.  I have a copy of the book myself, along with many other books on Marxist tactics.  I also have both of Obama’s books. I have books on Adams, FDR, Carter, Reagan, Marx, Chavez, MLK, Washington, Jefferson, Engles, ect, ect.  I also have books by Dave Freedman, Catherine Drinker Brown and many others.

It’s all part of the educational process, however, using those tactics like Obama and the Liberals to destroy the country or to ” Fundamentally transform America” is another thing.Thanks for the reply.

Let’s also recall that what’s considered “leftist” today is quite different from recent decades.
The Overton window has been slid so far to the right, almost any previous Republican president might find himself center-right, centrist or center-left by the current RightWingNut standards

It was resistance to government oversight and dismantling of the rules that prohibited financial malfeasance that nearly destroyed the world economy.
It wasn’t the government who came up with the idea of repackaging risky mortgages as AAA assets.

The corporations who either caused the problem or were sinking because they bought into the financial lies were begging to be bailed out.
That’s also all over YouTube

You need to educate yourself on what’s going on in the country and YouTube isn’t the place to do that.

It was Government regulations and Government interference that caused the problem. None of those companies should have been bailed out.

YouTube as an economic source of information, that’s funny.

The roles of Democrats and Republicans have completely reversed.  Now the Republicans are the conservatives, and the Democrats are liberals.  Good job joining the 21st century, you fool.

thanks for proving my point, buffoon!

Obama signed the NDAA the bill that brings martial law for all people of America..Bill Maher supports Obama and is just another propaganda puppet.NDAA in its origin was designed by Adolf Hitler to remove any rights the jewish people …John McCain redesigned this bill and Obama signed it,,

Yes, because we all know Obama is the one who bailed out the bank now?  Errr wait….