Ron Paul is nice as a wrench thrown into the GOP machine.. but I’m still trying to get over the crowd cheering to let people without healthcare die… scary stuff.. what happened to pro-life? It’s bizarre and kind of astonishing.

Poor guy.  Might have to go with a granite veneer on the counter top of his summer home.

Yeah that was seriously messed up.

RON PAUL 2012

I think Ron Paul shuld run as a independent ! Just like Sarah Palin will.

I was watching the news today and they showed a CNN poll that said Perry is 1st at 30%, Romney is 2nd at 18%, and Ron Paul is 3rd at 12%.  This means Paul has a better chance of catching Romney than Romney does of catching Perry.  I think Rick Perry just might be what Ron Paul needed to get the media attention that he wanted.

no one said people should die without health insurance – I didn’t hear that from anyone!

I did hear the opinion that people should be responsible for their decisions, but no one should be denied care.  If you choose to not have insurance, than you should rely on your own income, or charity for healthcare.  

If we could get some reform in the insurance AND healthcare industry, we could drastically lower the cost of healthcare.

The only solution to healthcare is a “Thunderdome”. Two enter, one leaves and then gets to negotiate for their life.

Not to mention the thunderous applause during last week’s debate about capital punishment. How can Perry tout the idea that he’s for life in ALL circumstances when just the week before, he so proudly displayed his affection for the death penalty?

I’m glad that you chose to cite the crowd in stead of Dr. Paul who made it clear that citizens should be responsible for their actions but that there are always other options.

It’s not much of a plan to let everyone without healthcare die.. universal healthcare is the only answer and the nation just needs to accept it, stop fighting stupid little proxy wars about healthcare and just do it. UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.

If you choose to not have health coverage that was a choice you made and I should not have to carry the burden you chose for yourself. All of life is choices and those choices should be made wisely. We get sick ,accidents happen but take responsibility for yourself. Key here is take responsibility for (Yourself)

Nice.

It’s virtually impossible to get elected as an dependent.. I hear you have to spend enormous amounts of money to even get on the ballot and don’t even think about getting any media coverage… unless you’re Sarah Palin of course.

I thought Dr.Paul’s answers were awesome.I’d just like to see him asked more on the Fed.

“Let him die”: YEAH!!!!!! said the tea party Christians.

lol Jason you don’t live in the real world buddy. So some guy who rolls his car with his 18 and 20 year old kid both of them bashed up no insurance. Let them die? Don’t take them to the hospital? Because they cant pay? This is unbelievable dude absolutely unbelievable.

Dude they cheered when Wolf asked that question. And they began to clap and cheer when he said the word die. Watch the freaking tape my man. Its sick.

Because all people under 30 who can’t afford health care and have to go without are just exercising their freedoms. Why, you can practically hear the Francis Scott Key music kicking in as they look at their overdrawn bank accounts and minimum wage pay stubs! But, don’t worry, kids. Once Paul and Bachmann get in power, they’ll make sure you have the freedom to get paid even less.
Libertarianism = Pure, unadulterated stupidity

Libertarianism is the best of both worlds – democrat and republican.  I believe what Ron Paul is saying is that before doctors relied so heavily on the government, they would set aside part of their practice to help the poor.  Is it the government’s responsibility to take care of the poor?  Through compassion on an individual basis, we can give to the poor (donations to your favorite charity), but Mr. Paul does not believe it’s the responsibility of the government.

But really, the bottomline is: if you want to get out of Afghanistan and bring all troops home and develop trade with all nations (no embargoes), then you vote for Ron Paul.

Not all Tea Partiers are the same.  The Ron Paul wing of the Tea Party wouldn’t be cheering.  But you have a neo-con convert part of the Tea Party that are pro-war, pro-execution as you heard in the last debate and they aren’t the nicest bunch of people in the world.

Ron Paul’s answer reflects the generosity of Americans that people don’t get turned away from Hospital before and after Medicare.  And he would know, being a physician.

The media in the last 2 debates have avoided questioning Ron on the FED.  Because they know he is one who made this topic popular and they don’t want to highlight this fact.

 I actually don’t blame paul for his answer. He was trying to give what he felt was a logical answer although one which I disagree with. But the crowd wasn’t cheering his answer. They were cheering when Wolf asked the question about if paul would let the kid die.

How could you not like to see Ron Paul win… Not politic talk.straight talk…

Ron Paul 2012

not when you work in the medical field.  There are people who clearly need to die…they have no chance of getting any better and are kept alive simply for money.  most of them are on medicade and will be kept alive because medicade will pay for it. Sad but true

Have you ever had to use a universal health care system? I have my whole life as someone with chronic illness and let me tell you, it DOESN’T WORK! If you want to receive health care, which is a service, then GET INSURANCE. Do you buy car insurance after you get into an accident? Don’t wait to get sick to get health insurance or you’re just as dumb. Why should anyone else be responsible for YOUR health? I don’t expect anyone to pay for mine. Taking away the private sector has degraded the quality of public health care in Canada so badly that people are dying on waiting lists and doctors run from patient to patient every 5 minutes because they get paid PER VISIT, not for CURING THE PATIENT. How is that the “only answer”? Not to mention, how is that good for the economy?

its important to note that those were not the comments of Ron Paul…those comments came from some morons in the crowd.  I agree that humans are by nature giving and kind (most of them anyways) and if there wasn’t essentially a governement bailout program, aka medicade, someone would step up and help…there would be charities for people who could not afford healthcare, there would be doctors who would “donate” their time.  The idea that the governements way is the only way is idiotic and it kills creativity…

Interesting. Why does Canada not get rid of it then? And why do you guys have longer life spans and far less infant mortality?

Jason seems to live in the same world I do at least, and I deal with a socialist health care system on a very regular basis. I’ve seen first hand how government has taken away the ability for people to care for one another. If a guy (who decided not to have insurance or money put away for emergencies) and his kids were hurt, you honestly think people would leave them lying in the ambulance bay and just watch them die? There are good people in our world who would help (not the ones who cheered obviously!).
Don’t you realize it’s the government administration and meddling that prevents hospitals from caring for them because they don’t have insurance? A man in my city who had a heart attack was left on the sidewalk outside the ER because they weren’t open yet and it was policy not to admit him. They CALLED AN AMBULANCE from another hospital to come get him!! Why? Because of government policy!

I’d rather keep my tax dollars, buy insurance, and choose the health care that I can best afford (which would be a lot when you see how much the gov’t keeps from me on my tax return).

There are people who are trying to get rid of it, but mentioning the word “privatization” here is political suicide. The sense of entitlement that the government has instilled in people has been entrenched in our country for so long that it will take a lot of fighting to win over the people who feel the entire country owes them something (whether they pay taxes or not). The Canadian and American health care systems are also very different in many ways. We have different regulations, different drugs, etc. My current provincial gov’t is at least putting funding in areas that are making the system more efficient, and we do have some amazing doctors here, but we have a HUGE undertaking ahead of us. We need reform badly.

Simple, clear, common sense – Go Ron Paul!

ron paul says tax cuts don’t have to be paid for?

interesting thought.  (chuckle)

Isn’t shameful for him to be claiming credit for Govt jobs? Give em hell Ron, they are all phonies. 

Well Cassandra you can always come down here and try to find a job that gives you ins. Or you can try to pay for it yourself and good luck with that if you have kids.

RonPaul 2012

Like I said below cassandra. Come on down try and find a job that pays for your ins. If you cant try and pay for it yourself and if you have kids I hope you are wealthy cause it aint cheap.

I know it’s hard to comprehend but the hospital would not just let them bleed out.

They’d take care of them, then bill them.  They’d probably do payment plans.

Overall though, health care costs would drop dramatically if 

A) Government moved the hell out of the way and, 

B) The Dollar was restored and inflation stopped.

Also, I expect so people like you there – donating your time and money to save lives.  Typically the most socialist among us, give nothing.  They probably want everyone else to do it to ease their conscience or something.

So we can have a system without socialism and theft through the income tax. 

But we have to be willing to think differently.  What’s so wrong with that?

Our debt and deficit illustrate the failed system that is socialism.

Then I suggest you stop equating ending government healthcare with people dying. There will be better care for everyone, even the poor, if government is taken OUT of the market. The reason costs are so high and care so poor is because of government intervention.

Your comparing a melting pot nation to a small homogenous nation, thats a fallacy.

Dr Ron Paul is the only statesman left willing to say the unpopular
truths. My admiration grows for Dr Ron Paul’s courage to warn the USA
that it’s spending will be its end. He is the only hope left for the
USA. You may not like the medicine but there is a Dr in the house and he
has my vote!

Insideguy, What you describe is a result of the
government interfering. It has nothing to do with free market. I used to work in
a hospital. The hospitals are buying all of the private practices because the
physicians would go broke trying to staff an office that could keep up with
government paperwork, and they can’t afford mal-practice insurance. At the same
time, the CEO of our local “non-profit” hospital draws a salary in excess of
$1.25 million per year…that’s $3,425 per day/365 days per year. Something is
out of kilter when my tax dollars are contributing to a charitable “business”
that can pay that kind of dough. I can handle people debating this stuff, but,
please take the time to investigate what is really going on and stop taking as
“truth” the drivel that the Avatar candidates mouth to the world. We “ALL” need
to get serious about truly digging for how we got here and how we are going to
turn it around.

Tomc…I agree.  Has anyone stopped to think what could be done with the money that pays all of the government paper shufflers?  Has anyone calculated the cost of the government paper shufflers?  Do people really believe it is a good deal to pay thousands of bureaucratic managers and employees to “improve” our health care distribution? 

Seriously, if we, as a people don’t start paying attention and realize that the government was not designed to be our daddy and, in fact, cannot do that.  It may seem easy to just say the government should take care of us from cradle to grave, but, I am going to have to ask that you point out a government who is doing this successfully and to the delight of it’s people. 

I feel as though there were some paid plants in the audience who were there to detract from Ron Pauls success.  
Take, for example, the cheers Ron Paul got during the 9/11 attacks questions, then all of the sudden a few people started to boo, and quite loudly I might add.  
If you play all of this through a stereo capable of neo 6.1 channel surround you can hear the boos and the “applauding death” coming from the same speakers in the room, which makes me suspect they were there with the sole purpose of making Dr. Paul look bad.  

Cassandra:

With your chronic illness, what makes you think that you can buy private insurance at any price?

People with healthcare die. Everyone dies. How much are we going to keep spending on delaying death. The real solution is properly preparing for death, since it is sure to come.

First of all, I do have insurance. I’ve had it for a long time because I believe in being responsible for myself, I actually plan for the future and I don’t take my health for granted. I haven’t been chronically ill until the last few years when the health care system failed me. Numerous surgeries, misdiagnoses, prescriptions I shouldn’t have been prescribed and doctors with no compassion for their patients have ensured that I haven’t been treated properly. I’m currently saving money to come down to the Mayo clinic so I can hand them my hard earned cash, get the service I deserve and get my life back.

Secondly, you can still get insurance but at a higher premium. I realize my health issues put more of a burden on my family’s budget so my partner and I have worked our arses off to ensure we have a financially stable life. We put in more time and effort than most people around us (well, he does anyway since I’m sick most of the time), and lo and behold, we have more money than them so we can afford to get the proper medical care. We just don’t have the OPTION.

My fiance and I have talked for years about moving to the US. We believe in what the States stand for and the foundation it was built on. But we’re going to have the same problems there if people don’t listen to the likes of Ron Paul and the majority of the commentators here.

We started with NOTHING but worked hard and had to make sacrifices (although this is teaching our kids how to be responsible and productive members of society) so that we now own many properties and could easily retire now if we wanted (we’re not even 30 years old yet). We had no handouts. Just used our brains and muscles. And we SAVED MONEY. I started with a job making less than minimum wage and still managed to save something because I budgeted carefully and sacrificed heavily for awhile.

Ultimately, government money is YOUR money. YOU are paying for universal health care AND insurance in this socialist system. Like I said above, I’d rather keep my money and make my own decisions. 

I get quite a kick out of people who hate paying
taxes, I love paying taxes, it means I have an income and am doing well. Paying
taxes is a privilege and honor, ask any immigrant. You need to taste the bitter
before you know the sweet. Those in America, born with a silver spoon in their
mouth always make bad judgments because comparative analogy is absent from the
brain they grew up with. Any moron know it is better to have a tax problem than
to have an income problem, yet they make a butt head out of themselves divulging
what’s in their brain to smarter people than they themselves are. You can’t be embarrassed
if you don’t know what the other guy is thinking so you go right on saying and
doing the things that show signs of immaturity for your age especially if you
are near life’s finish line.

You can’t distinguish between giving, or taking of life in childbirth and killing a crazed criminal animal?

Paying taxes is a privilege and honor? We’re morons if we don’t have a tax problem? And you get a kick out of paying taxes? Is there any part of your statement that doesn’t shout, brainwashed!! If this statement is any indication of your American history, I’d like to know what school you attended.

Whatever you say, God.

Hey “god” (Annie)….YOU SUCK!!!! You are an inhuman monster!!! And you work in the medical field???…sad,really sad.

Lower infant mortality is half the reason they have longer life spans.  But this has nothing to do with better health care and everything to do with at least three things (1) if a sick infant is born, they don’t try to save it, hence it never was alive and never died (nice trick) — alternatively, people will abort genetically diseased infants more readily in Canada; (2) there is less teen pregnancy fewer poor people having babies [and, btw, teen pregnancy has nothing to do with health care]; and (3) there are fewer overweight people in Canada, hence, fewer high-risk pregnancies. 

Also, there is less violent crime in Canada, which is partly cultural, and partly due to a more sparse population distribution (fewer urban areas, less “urbane” urban areas when they are there).

As for the claim that Cassandra Germsheid should just go out and get some private insurance, I say you missed the whole point…THERE IS NONE! Canada has outlawed private medical transactions.  I suppose she could just pay out of pocket for a procedure in the States, but that begs the question. (Or isn’t that obvious?)