That’s disgusting. To choose not to act if it means winnings. Meanwhile Americans will stay jobless. Oh and before we aid disaster victims we’ll have to find cuts elsewhere. 

Yet another Republican jackass, putting politics ahead of his country!

This is the third summer in which the president assured Americans that the recovery was well under way—and the third summer in which the economy failed to recover.

In this week’s NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll: When he was inaugurated, 70% felt that Mr. Obama had “strong leadership qualities.” Today, only 42% feel that way. And when voters stop seeing a president as a strong leader, they generally stop seeing him as president.

The Southern Dandy strikes again. But then again, he has nothing else to offer, so why not “Just Say No.”

ah yes this is what it is all about for GOP idiots like Cantor…. ’but passing the whole plan “is not the way to get a win”……get a win?…winning is more important than helping the American people.

They’ve been playing that game for years

#Winning

Technically, the economy IS in recovery (defined as positive growth) but it doesn’t feel like it

Ouch! This’ll leave a mark!
Get working on it Tommy…AP must have it wrong somehow!

FACT CHECK: Obama’s jobs plan paid for? Seems not
By CALVIN WOODWARD and TOM RAUM Associated Pres
OBAMA: “Everything in this bill will be paid for. Everything.”

THE FACTS: Obama did not spell out exactly how he would pay for the measures contained in his nearly $450 billion American Jobs Act, but said he would send his proposed specifics in a week to the new congressional supercommittee charged with finding budget savings. White House aides suggested that new deficit spending in the near-term to try to promote job creation would be paid for in the future – the “out years,” in legislative jargon – but they did not specify what would be cut or what revenues they would use.

Essentially, the jobs plan is an IOU from a president and lawmakers who may not even be in office down the road when the bills come due. Today’s Congress cannot bind a later one for future spending. A future Congress could simply reverse it.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_JOBS_FACT_CHECK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-09-08-19-52-31

What are you talking about?
We heard this same canard the last time we gave him the $1.3 Trillion!

It became a Slush Fund for political supporters, much of which wound up giving temporary funds to sustain public union jobs (crony capitalism example).

He just needs enough money to hand out so he gets elected one more time. How many times was Hugo elected before he consolidated his regime? Once, but we’re exceptional!

This is the Republican strategy; make the economy worse.  Republicans can care less about jobs. 

There is NO plan yet.  It’s not drafted, nobody knows specifics. 

All we know is that it’s not paid for, as fact checked by the AP:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_JOBS_FACT_CHECK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-09-08-19-52-31

google earmarks pork and Eric Cantor and it will show you the truth behind this whole debate.

Do you get paid like 25 cents for each post you put in here?

What a Clown TeaBagger Cult member. 

Go away old man! Yer buggin’ me!

HAAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!

For republicans, winning is the only thing, especially where this President is concerned.  The republicans motto is, screw the American people, keep billionaires billions in billionaires pockets.

Wow Cantor, way to just say it. This along with Perry being a frontrunner makes me think the Republican strategy is to get Obama re-elected.

As Mitt Romney said last night, This guy doesn’t have a clue!

Actually, I don’t think Obama could BUY a clue.

Egon Cantor wants to get back to his hobby of collecting spores, mold and fungus.

Did you even listen to the segment. There was some agreement and some areas that everyone with an I.Q. above yours knew they would have problems with. You’ve got to factor in that he was on Hannity and every question has a spin on putting down the president.
Douchebag Tommy thinks he can put the Vulcan mind meld on all these politicians and actually agitate fucking fools like you.Both parties know theres no pass on this one and the American public are going to hold their feet to the fire. Unfortunately being out in the real world it’s going to take time because there’s little demand and little confidence.

they know they can say it out loud because you libs are pussies and cant do shit about it bahahaha

Fu*& you you retarded piece of trailer trash santorum. Get with the program or get the F*&^ out of the way.

YOu wouldn’t know the truth if it dick slapped you. Why are you protecting Millionaires and billionaires you idiot. You will NEVER be one.

you mad pussy?

Hey Moron, are you able to hear? You heard the plan. Are you just plain stupid.

Is there a statue of limitations on how many times you repeat the same shit?

Just try replacing your question mark with a period.

And speaking of periods…

F(*& you. You idiot.

QQ more bitch…  sniffle sniffle

You are a lying piece of shit. YOu always have been and you will continue to be. You fat jowled SOB.

You are a moron in a trailer park. No one give a good f*&^ what you think. You are so stupid you don’t even know who is trying to help your worthless white trash ass. You are a joke. You are a moron. Keep voting for the billionaires they are just right around the corner waiting to give you a minimum wage job. You dumb ass.

liar i make more in a month than you make in a year, you loser bitch…

We should get a cup of coffee and talk it over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

But Tommy, he meant “get a win for the American people”.

You just interpreted it wrong. That’s what you have been saying about all the lefty rhetoric.

Try and keep up with your own hypocrisy, buddy.

Fuck the AP too, right pal? ;)

I see one of the “big” minds of the GOP, Congressman Mo Brook,  gave his solution today:
 
 “evict all illegal aliens from America and immediately open up millions of jobs for unemployed Americans,” 

Spoken like a true, America-hating communist.

All Obama did tonight was sermonize a bunch of poll tested soundbites. Tonight he was “Reverend Obama” the snake oil salesman and even the AP noticed he was full of it.

oh looks its greg, the guy that thinks because he lives in a blue state hes a heavy hitting taxpayer. what a delusional twat…

Anger management can be your friend.

I’ll be happy to compare tax returns anytime you gutteral scum sucking leech. You qwant a civilized country but don’t want to pay for it. Screw you!

Say hi to David Brock for me.

Better get your thorazine prescription renewed.

You don’t have a pot to piss in. Why you would vote against your own self interest is beyond me. YOu are not a millionaire or billionaire. You will never be either of those. The only reason you would vote republican is because you are a fundementalist christian, you are a homophobe, you are a racist or you are in love with your guns. There is a real civilized reason to vote someone into office. BTW… ass wipe I own a multi million dollar company so stick your communisism bull shit up your ass.

Litte Eric Cantor reminds me of such a wuss, the kind that could never quite make it with the cool kids, but tries so hard….He is a hypocrite and a phony….

That is such a simplistic stereotype.
Give the networks and mainstream media credit for creating the narrative, then indoctrinating it.

Do you want a solution for TODAY”S economic problems or not? It is a sound plan. Get with it or get out of the way or go collect unemployment you F’n hillbilly.

Actually that would work. But you would have to cut-off unemployment benefits and food stamps and welfare, or the lazy and entitled won’t pick fruit, make beds, plant flowers, or work on a construction crew.

And the beautiful thing is, it would drive up wages. Isn’t that what you lefties want?

Nah. That’s just a ruse, isn’t it?

I don’t need anger management. YOu pathetic retarded TeaTurds need to hear the truth, plain and simple because that is what you are.

sure post a link to it…

You misunderstand at an elite level. Quick tip… Where a helmet to protect the soft spots on your skull. Though you find the ponies pretty, they can still pack a wallop.

He’s got Joe Arpaio as his avatar. America’s Most Corrupt Sheriff®. Of course he’s a lying piece of shit.

melt down incoming…

hes gonna blow!!!

My but you’re a crude little thing!

Obama uses the congress to give a campaign speech and we get an article making stuff up about what Cantor meant. 

Really Tommy, you don’t have a clue what Cantor was talking about; you just make up this stuff for the fun of it all – it is the WHPC way and the NBC way.
The leftleaning Bower asking questions in the debate last night, then the idiot lefties on MSNBC “analyzing” the debate and now this – you are divining what Cantor meant and you are claiming it as fact.

PATHETIC.

Now that’s a joke, if I’ve ever heard one! 

And, I’M the Queen of Sheba!

sure pal…

did your mensa meeting get cancelled?

SOMEONE had to look out for right-wing politicians’ reputations among the TEA bagging redneck mouth-breathers. This Jewish guy fits the bill perfectly!

Kinda like Obama using this platform to promote his campaign agenda. Who’s the disgusting one here?

You didn’t give him anything Norbit. The stimulus plan passed the house without a republican vote. We pulled two out of the senate.

Anti semetic and stupid, a great combination. 

Did fuckwit Hannity just say Obama’s speech was bad writing?

Dude, you have no grasp of the English language, and a community college education and YOU’RE critiquing Obama’s prose?

he owns an oil company  bahahahaha

The vast majority of Americans live very, very well. The only reason that happened was because of capitailism. Crony capitalism is killing real capitalism.

But you know, what I find funny is how greedy you little lefties are. You assume that unless you are a millionaire or billionaire, that your life is incomplete.

It’s just simple envy and jealousy. That’s no way to run your life. Enjoy all the comforts and opportunities you have, instead of being envious of people who worked their tails off and were innovative to become successful (minus the crooks like Madoff, of course)

You don’t need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows.

http://vimeo.com/27076316

Ya, that’s what all the people who need anger management say.

And the lefties have been trying to prove that for years and always fail.

Lefties are good at failure.

norbit, are you a poosey? is that hwy you have no balls?

Better  spend some of those millions on anger management.

Actually Eric Cantor tipped Obama’s hand and you left wing lemmings know it.

I almost feel sorry for that dumb bastard, Obama after he made such an ass out of himself tonight………nah, I’m just f’ing with you losers. 
 
You guys better start ( today ) looking for a viable candidate to face off against future president Rick Perry, cause tonight Barack proved, before the ” real ” American people and you libs, it ain’t him..not by a long shot.

Can you guys actually be that stupid to believe that Obama actually gives a dam about your finacial situation? What the hell do you think he did with the original 800 million that he so call wanted for shovel ready jobs? He gave it to the guys that put him into the White House. Didn’t you see his minions in the audience. Trumka and Jeff. Plus he’s having a hard time raising the billion dollars for his campaign, hence the 400 million dollar speech. This guy has used the race card, the class warfare card, the blame card. What part of this guy do you still think is brilliant ? I’m hoping that you’re a paid blogger and not just plain stupid! You’re this nations problem. Whether Obama or the next smoke and mirror guy, you will fall for their BS.

Technically, that’s BS that the Hugo Chavez media is trying to get you to believe. Kinda like they got you to believe that he was “brilliant”. And we all know how that turned out.

Obama did what no one else in federal government could do… Offer a plan forged by compromise that will realistically address our current jobs dilemma. As far as Parry is concerned, the fellow can’t answer a question outside of reference to memorized lines. “If” he wins the nomination the libertarian “Paul” army will split on principal making his election nearly impossible. Good luck with all that.

I’d gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

Kinda like what the Dems did in 2008?

To counteract the bile from some of the more vituperative posters, give these photos and video a look. 

Are you ready for some FOOTBALL?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Packers-crowd-gets-patriotic-with-enormous-Ameri?urn=nfl-wp6750

Interesting, ‘Can you guys actually be that stupid to believe that Obama actually gives a dam about your finacial situation?’….nor does the Republicans, they dont give a damn either, which is why they wont pass any bill that would put Americans back to work!  This Political Party Ideology BS, has screwed up America and the people are willing pawns in this chess game…..neither Party cares, and neither does the people or we would have put a stop to it long ago.

And that would be, ‘the same media that you get your FACTS from, rt?

Hey Moron we’ve heard that plan before, does 800 million sound familiar? That was the same speech he made to get that amount. Could you guys actually be that stupid to fall for this guys BS?

He’s snorting his effexor even though he’s been told not to do it…

For God’s sake man, stop it with the polemics against Obama. Yes, he won in 2008. Does it mean that as a Republican I’m obligated to obstruct everything he does?

That’s not what a responsible Republican ought to do. I wrote my post in response to what Cantor said. Namely, that if the GOP obstructs the President, it’ll mean that nothing gets done and therefore the GOP can win in the ballot box. Don’t you know how cynical that is?

I thought Republicans were for the Middle Class. I am. I am so sick of blaming this guy and that guy. I want something good to get done. Take the credit later.

Take your meds and call your shrink in the morning.

Man what kind of drugs are you on? Please put up 10k to me and I will take that bet all day long. Are you deaf or just stupid

you must be an idiot

Yeah, but responsible Democrats and Republicans have to meet in the center and stop this shit.

YOu’re an idiot as well as Queen of Sheeba.

What do you want done then? What is YOUR plan you white trash piece of garbage.

Nice rebuttal…wait, you had none.

You’re a real funny guy. Most people who are clueless will laugh at anything. You have no plan and when you hear one that is an answer you are not ready to be a part of that plan. WHY ARE YOU PROTECTING MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES WHEN YOU WILL NEVER BE ONE. WAKE THE f UP

Republicans are crony capitalists, too, sir. They’re the pros. The Democrats are just amateurs. 

If the Republicans were really about capitalism, they’d drop the sacred cow over taxes. There is a faction in the GOP like Grover Nordquist that see repealing tax cuts and tax breaks as tax raises. Yet, there are Republicans who see no problem in letting the payroll tax cuts die out. So let me get this straight: It was essential to keep the Bush Tax cuts, which did nothing by the way, but not essential to keep the payroll tax cut for millions of hardworking middle class Americans because they see it has having done nothing for the economy? That’s bullshit.

You’re responding to someone who in the past said, and I quote, “The AP is right wing!” Yes, he said that.

How is that anti-semetic? And if you’re a tea bagger you’re not allowed to accuse anyone of racism, ever.

I think the left wing loons are seeing the writing on the wall.

The personal attacks are just flying.

Obama is toast, put a fork in him, he’s done.

Republicans will give their right foot before they get serious about American people

I’m sure their plan involves allowing the rich to keep all of their money while the middle class sits and waits for jobs that never materialize. After all, Bush’s tax cuts on the rich did wonders for the economy, remember?

I’m just giving people the facts.  

Expect Congressional Republicans to treat Obama’s legislative plan in the manner of an almond-hating child who is given a bowl of Rocky Road ice cream. They will try to spit out the components that conflict with their highly dogmatic political view and devour the parts that they find palatable.

But they also will do whatever it takes to ensure that the economy does not dramatically improve and unemployment stays high — to do otherwise would violate their solemn oath that the number one priority of the GOP is to undermine the welfare and security of the nation while Obama is in the White House.

So, that’s what’s wrong with you….

Excellent idea.

The banking crisis did if for them.  

So the AP notes that the plan will not be paid for if Congress refuses to pay for it… Brilliant analysis. Proof of what exactly oxy? That no plan should be offered because it depends on congressional compliance? If that’s the best criticism, I’m gonna cross lines real quick and advise you to find something less inane as bludgeon.

a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country’s authorization.

Yes we have had the tax cuts for a decade, so where are the GD jobs. YOu teaIdiots and Republicans are so full of shit

Also, not that Norb cares too much for accuracy, but the stimulus was just under 800 billion, when the majority of economists said that is was far too small to reverse the course of a 2.3 trillion dollar economic contraction. 

You are a special case… Though I am sure that animal buggery consumes a fair amount of your free time the damage you display is quite deep. No doubt begun in the womb by a mother unconcerned with eventuality… The compulsion handed down alongside significant chromosomal damage. Even then, the past is gone and you need not be so ugly. I recommend fresh air, exercise, a diet of healthy text and attention to the development of the frontal lobe. There is hope for you yet Internet troll “Texan”, hope indeed.

Sean’s just upset that he may have to pay more income tax.  They might go after his loop-holes.  Good Reporting Tommy.  

interesting how the far right always screams class warfare when class warfare has been waged and won by the uber rich since the Reagan Administration.  The numbers don’t lie.  Take a look at the consolidation of wealth and income between 1985 and 2008… The top 1% in this country hold 42.7% of the wealth, the bottom 80% control 7% – Both double digit shifts toward the wealth since 1985.  Income breaks down the same way.   

And before you sermonize about job creators, and builders of the economy, and overwhelming amount of the great wealth transfer has been via the fully deregulated financial sector which used to help efficiently move capital from investors to innovators and those who were growing industry – Now Wall Street is a rigged casino, with millions gamed in derivatives, securitized toxic mortgages, etc..

So it actually is a little funny and sad for anyone on the right to be carping about class warfare, when the election of Reagan kicked off one that was won in an onslaught by the rich.

The American people need to call their congressman every day to see what they have done to create jobs. 

Wrong.  By the way – you need to take that Texan governor of yours back and throw him on the fire line and see if he knows how to use a shovel. It might come in handy with all that manure he has been throwing around.  Ponzi scheme?  Now there is a guy who is done & you can put a fork in him for sure.

Rick Perry is toast.  If the senior voters in South Carolina & New Hampshire don’t show him the door, he’ll sure get it in Florida.  Then again, maybe your candidate only has to win one state to make it not be a landslide for Obama.

Religious nut Perry will lose the majority of moderate republicans and all independents.  You can’t believe some of the far out stuff this guy does and not have plans to turn our governmernt into some religious state.

Obungle’s amateurish Chicago style dirty tricks won’t be enough to save him from the wrath of the American people. The Republicans will continue to wipe the floor with his skinny butt cheeks.

Of course he doesn’t, but he isn’t the only republican who has a terrible time with English.  For instance, listen to Rick Perry’s use of the English language.  “He don’t…”

No wonder Texas has problems in their schools.  Their Governor can’t even speak proper English.
.

It appears he will have to use it as a campaign tool like Harry “give’em hell” Truman.  Go out and explain to the American people that it’s not his fault – it is the fault of the “do nothing” congress.

But then, I think the American people saw that during the debt ceiling crisis and that is why the polls of Congress is so low.  I think only 18% believe congress is effective and that is probably the staff and family of congress members.

I liked the “flip” he did when during Hurricane Irene he was making noise about how the cost of FEMA’s help to all the people affected by the storm would have to be offset by cuts from other programs.  Then, he must have began getting some messages from the people in his district in Pennsylvania, because he shut his fricking mouth up. 
I know Obama is going to his district and i know it won’t be the only time in the next 14 months.

I wonder when Mo Brook got his lawn mowed last and who mowed it.  During the Obama administration, they have deported more illegals than during the Bush administration.  they don’t do raids on businesses but instead do ‘audits”.

I think you need to clean up your language. i feel the same way about Santorum, but clean it up.

Are you saying that it is okay for Tea Party Harley riding motorcycle guys to get into a fight with some people but not Longshoreman type guys?

sorry, but apparently you don’t realize what longshoremen do.  They aren’t your average tea drinking socializers. some are even known to drink a few beers now and then.

Where are the FACTS that dispute what Obama said?

By the way, Solyndra’s bankruptcy isn’t going to be the only one nor even the largest one.  Jen-weld will surely be filing Chapter 11 if they don’t get the bond money to make a deal eld Canadians.  Jen-Weld is famliy owned but they make wooden windows, doors etc and with the builiding market like it is, their sales have dropped.
Internationally – 20,000 employees.

And the Republicans do? Clearly not. It would seem no one cares about anyone but themselves & their “friends” but not realizing or caring they are totally screwing the next generation. They all need to take their heads out of their behinds & realize that.

I would hardly call what they show on FOX News fact.

What wrath? Clearly NO ONE is “scared” of the American people or EVERY important vote in COngress wouldn’t come down to the wire because people are more worried about looking tough on the other party than being serious about the American public & the HIGH level of disrespect and temper tantrums would NOT be occurring. 

Glad to see you’re not defending the stupid part.

BO has a proclivity for big sweeping legislation when he’d have much better luck passing parts individually.  But he does that on purpose as it puts detractors at a disadvantage since they have to reject the whole thing and then he can whine and point fingers.  The guy’s a master manipulator…I’ll give him that.

Well tip of the hat to whomever came up with the strategy of stonewalling the prez’s since his inauguration. Whether it’s moral or not, & it’s not, is immaterial

& in a sane universe it’s highly counterintuitive that such a strategy wouldn’t backfire, but it didn’t

whoever thought that strategy up had the far’er farsightedness of us all

Using a joint session of congress to kick off his 2012 campaign is a disgrace, and every member of the media shold call Obama on it, every member.  of couse they won’t because it is he himself, their One.  But this was no policy speech, this was mots and bs.

Shame on Obama for trashing tradition.  I can’t wait for his one term to be over and done

Thanks for pointing out that picture, Tommy. Hillarious.

and what planet are you living on

ass

ass

ass

When you find a responsible Republican, you tell us

And when you find a democrat that follows the constitution, you let us know as well.

All we can do is hope the American people are getting sick of Republicans blocking every effort to improve the economy.

So his speech was not about jobs?

Dirty tricks?

Only fitting for Hannity to have Cantor on since both are committed to blocking anything that Obama suggests. Heck, just a couple weeks ago Hannity was cheering for the debt limit vote to fail.

Yes, almost certainly Rick Perry will be our next president.

Perry/Bachman 2012

That was not fair. Hannity has a doctorate degree from Liberty College.

It only seemed like a campaign speech because from the republican perspective, any success by Obama helps his chances for re-election. But jobs is a current problem, and it can not wait until 2012.

His “speech” (read that campaign appearance) was about a bill that does not exist, is not paid for, and yet this guy says pass it.  Kind of like Nancy said we have to pass the Obamacare bill to know whats in it.

There is NO BILL; there was only BS.

This is a surprise to anyone? The Republicans have been clear since day one of Obama’s presidency that their ONLY mission was to try defeat him. Every single proposal was met with hostility, lies and “no” votes. Every single effort to reach across the aisle was met with a clenched fist. This new breed of Republican politician loves victory more than they love this country.

Anyone who hasn’t read this Republican staffer’s account of his nearly thirty years with the party owes it to themselves to do so. He gives away the whole game by revealing what really drives party leaders and what lengths they’re willing to go to in order to ram their agenda down the throats of naive Americans. It’s a must-read:

http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779

That´s exactly what is going on. Anyone should read the article. Ty for the link.

HA!  A supporter of torture and plutocrats thinks he knows what the Constitution is.  My guess is you wouldn’t know what the Constitution was if it came up and tried to shake your hand.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c,2849/

This Onion piece is about you

Tommy doesn’t listen to the words that are ACTUALLY SAID; he only hears what HE THINKS someone says.

It’s a fine article, but it’s not gonna do a lot for Eric Cantor or Sean Hannity or their disciples.  Hannity and Cantor have water to carry for rich dudes

Well yes, that is how all the obstructionists see anything the President suggests. Why? Because causing our president to “fail” (even if it means America suffers) is the republican priority. And they make no bones about that.

Really? How arent they following the Constitution? Please do tell…

Stop it! disagree with the person dont go to a street level it just makes you look petty and stupid.
I disagree with what Norbit says as well but is your way really the most effective way to communicate your differences with him?

If we can get one of those tanker airplanes used for firefighting, Perry can actually PILOT it to put out the fires. Does anyone know the regulations governing requests for the firefighting airplanes- using them would have put the fires out in Bastrop far more quickly than has been done up to now.

Unlike the flooding in the East, where NOTHING can be done to stop the rise of the water, something CAN be done about wildfires. There are acts of Mother Nature about which the local, state and federal agencies CAN DO NOTHING, yet when the government is capable of acting, it cannot because resources have been diverted to pay for yet another “social justice” initiative.

We need to get back to an understanding of what government is responsible for and what it is incapable of accomplishing. Most Leftists would prefer spending our treasure on things that are impossible to attain.

Were you asleep during the first TWO YEARS of Obama’s presidency? He had majorities in BOTH Houses of Congress and passed whatever he wanted to. Republicans could NOT stop him until after the 2010 elections and only in the House. 

 Cantor had already defined the context of the word “win” by saying that the Obama plan does include several ideas that are “wins” for the American people.

My lord, Tommy, you can write three pieces rightfully trying to put the words of a union boss into context as he calls ideological opponents “sons-of-bitches”, but you go completely deaf when it comes to Eric Cantor.

This isn’t much different from your utterly malicious accusation that Donald Trump had expressed a fondness for the slavery era by alluding to the romanticized south in Gone with the Wind.

Your partisan pique/anger is undisciplined and unprofessional.  It gets the better of you.

The republicans voted for 50 billion to rebuild Iraq, without any offset cuts, but now they insist on cuts to offset funding to rebuild America. Face it, the main goal of the republicans is to sink our economy so they can elect Michelle Bachman to fix everything.

They are, but they are also tired of the President not getting anything done.  A recent article on low information voters I was reading claimed most voters spend a total of five minutes before deciding their vote.  Those five minutes are influenced more by recognition of who has Executive power and not who thwarted it.  Republicans figured this out long ago.  They can obstruct and deny and blame the results on the President. 

Hell, it’s only been 18 months and the people on this board will tell you Obama had 60 willing Senators for 2 years, when it was actually 60 reluctant ones for 4 months.  They COUNT on people not noticing and not remembering and the silence of a lazy, silly media. 

Now, when the tables are  reversed in the coming years, they will harp about everyday on Fox and on talk radio and their base will demand ansers and some “brave” Tapper-esque figure will ask the Republican President what he thinks of “Democratic obstructionism” and CNN will run stories on it and Chris Matthews will talk about how it’s bad for the brand, etc

James Fallows once repeated the most true axiom in our contemporary politics:  “Democrats can govern, but get elected.  Republicans can get elected, but they cannot govern.”  Not much has changed.  one party is good at messaging and the other one squanders a 60 seat minority by arguing amongst themselves for 4 months.

I’d listen to Jeff Merrill when he speaks of illicit drug use. He knows a great deal about it.

And, he’d be correct. True from the salad days of the wire services. AP was always anti-New Deal/New Frontier/Great Society, and it remains a right-of-center organization even today. Problem is that AP is now in a field that includes radical rightist extremists which have distorted political perspective.

Why do Libs here and elsewhere masturbate themselves into a buttery froth over ‘infrastructure?’ You know, the tiresome refrain about ‘roads, bridges, schools?’ As if those things shouldn’t already be in GLORIOUS shape after the FIRST ‘stimulus-bill-to-nowhere.’

If all that Libs have is a hammer, everything to them looks like a nail. What a bunch of inbreds Leftists are.

You Lie!!

– “Everything in this bill will be paid for. Everything.”

– “Everything in here is the kind of proposal that’s been supported by both Democrats and Republicans, including many who sit here tonight.”

– “It will not add to the deficit.” (snicker, I’ve heard that one before)

– “The American Jobs Act answers the urgent need to create jobs right away.”

Yes, ignore the millions–a majority–who are ‘getting sick’ of OBAMO for DESTROYING the economy. OBAMO had a compliant congress and spent a trillion dollars to ‘improve the economy.’ Yet here we are…everything is worse.

You go ‘hope’ all you want. After all, that’s the beautiful word Your Boy used when he parachuted into the WH.

Improve the economy!!  Ha, that’s rich.

Couldn’t be any worse than the bumper sticker you dolts elected.

If you want to Win The Future, all you need to do is believe a pack of lies!

http://tinyurl.com/3owy438

You’re an idiot to simply reply based on headline of this article.  If you’d actually watched the video in it’s entirety, you’d see that Cantor stated – plain and simply – he backed parts of Obama’s plan, and that for Obama to say ‘Take it all or nothing’ – was not the way for Obama to get a win. 

AAARGH … this is the problem with most people.  They don’t take the time to hear the person in his / her entirety. 

Why does AP hate America?!? If only they would genuflect before our hO!ly Messiah and preach his Gospel again, we’d Win The Future!

Why do you hate America, Associated Press? It’s Soros, isn’t it?

That pack of lies? It’s a totally sound plan!

You should change your name to Democrats are Suckers.

Sure, Kook. And Obama is center-right, right?

You want him to give up the only thing he has left?

Cantor is right.  If you keep spending and wasting taxpayer money, taxpayers will vote against you.   Absolutely.  

Tip to liberals and democrats.  If you want to keep spending taxpayer money, you need to show a return on our investment.   Cantor gets it, Obama does not.   Focus on eliminating tax loopholes, special deals, etc and independents will listen. 

If you want to spend more stimulus, then show us what we paid for in the first one, I’m not seeing any new train systems, new roads, etc.   Show results first.  Then talk about spending more.   Eliminate bad regulations before adding new ones.  Really is very simple.  

Boy, you sure told him.

What do you think Obama’s worried about? One job: his.

Mr. Cantor is just silly.  As we know, you’re supposed to pass these monstrous bills, without reading it, and then they’ll tell you what’s in it.  That’s just how the democrats’ ‘roll’.   Then, later when the job reports results in a literal, zero (0) jobs increase, we all express ‘surprise’ that it hasn’t worked.

Then, of course, eventually we have to pay for it, but no need to worry about that now.  Our kids will pay the bill. 

Asleep is a strong word, I was drunk and high but apparently was more alert than what your response indicates you were

Their super majority in the senate effectively wasn’t but for a couple of months before MA’s Scott Brown election.

Not to mention the gamesmanship they dutifully and flawlessly executed pretending to want to contribute only to water down and render ineffective most of the his measures. That includes the $800 billions stimulus $300 billions of which went towards tax credits/cuts. $300 billions, an amount that would have made the drama that came with scheduling the joint session speech and the speech itself unnecessary. No doubt, their efforts and time, which we pay for, was dedicated to sabotaging him by sabotaging us and our economy

Uh, jackass, the President’s plan includes tax cuts for businesses. Cantor and his caucus in Congress has been championing tax cuts for businesses for years.

For Cantor to come out now and and act as if they were offered nothing in the speech is just plain disingenuous. 

Obama’s given Congress an ultimatum. He’s given what the people of the United States has called for, a plan to get them back to work.

There’s help for your problem- look in your local Yellow Pages under Alcoholics Anonymous. They also let drug addicts in.

Our grandchildren will still be paying for the wasteful wars that have
been going on forever.Right now this plan can help America as well as
Americans.How utterly pathetic the “new” GOP/Teaparty have become.

Apparently you have given up. Not so with most people.

It only seems that way because, as your mention, you consider Obama a dolt. But he was elected in a fair election and deserves our support because we cherish democracy.

Yep…I knew about the short memory thing but I had no idea it was this bad. Just a few days ago obama tried to steal the spot light by scheduling his speech for the exact day and time as the Republican debate. This typical Chicago style dirty trick was so amateurish that it immediately backfired on him and he was forced to spend days back peddling costing him yet another cup of credibility.

At the same time in Reagan’s presidency the unemployment rate peaked at 9.5 (in 1983). Reagan correctly blamed that on the economy he inherited.

You’re just an idiot. You know why the chinese are doing so good. They all move towards the same goal. When idiots like you sit around and bad mouth something, instead of getting behind a program that will solve our problems or at least put us on the right track. Yours and millions more like you has cynicism which causes our problems. So keep listening to your idiot leaders, Beck Hannity, Limbaugh, O’Reily… These people are paid to keep idiots llike you stirred up. The more they get you riled up the more you tune in and the more they can sell their advertising. You are a modern day rube. Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and O’Reily are shills for rich people to keep you down. If you don’t believe it, then you are a true moron. Back the President and his plan. If you don’t nothing is going to change. It is up to you and the rest of the conservative morons to STF up call your congressman and tell him to vote for the plan, RIGHT AWAY.

Yeah, I was having an argument with the old white guys who just swear that Kimmy was the worst President ever. Even after 30 years that still sticks

Josh Kim … again … you didn’t read my post completely … and it’s very apparent you didn’t watch the video.

Cantor said he agrees with part of Obama’s speech / plan – tax cuts for small business.  He said there were other components of this job plan that the republicans disagreed with and for Obama to demand his plan as it stands, that wouldn’t get him a win.

And no – the people of the USA didn’t call for another Obama stimulus plan.  They voted for jobs.

If you’ll recall – the last stimulus plan reduced jobs … not increased them.

Josh Kim … again … you didn’t read my post completely … and it’s very apparent you didn’t watch the video.

Cantor said he agrees with part of Obama’s speech / plan – tax cuts for small business.  He said there were other components of this job plan that the republicans disagreed with and for Obama to demand his plan as it stands, that wouldn’t get him a win.

And no – the people of the USA didn’t call for another Obama stimulus plan.  They voted for jobs.

If you’ll recall – the last stimulus plan reduced jobs … not increased them.

99% of the people know nothing about economics or economies. They only know what people tell them. Maxine Waters was correct, we should spend a trillion dollars to spur education and jobs. And we need to completely rework health care and style it after other successful health care systems such as in the numerous countries with better overall healthcare than our own. That alone would save us trillions. That of course won’t be happening now, but it will after 2012 when the American people get behind their duly elected president and give him a strong majority in both houses of congress.

To paranoid people, a scheduling conflict is a dirty trick. How dare the president schedule his speech during the football pre-game. What a dirty trick that was for poor Vitter.

I don’t think Perry has flown one of those tankers in almost 40 years.  i doubt anyone would really want him behind the controlls of a plane. 

In life, you should have a vision, create a detailed plan, and argue the merits.  Whining or attacking is unproductive and silly. Ask any successful person.  

Or, you could do nothing, watch Americans suffer, and hope they are all hopping mad enough to support a man who not only doesn’t lose sleep over killing people, but doesn’t lose sleep after he covers up for the execution of the innocent.

I’d like to think it can’t work, but you people surprise me all the time with your focus on minutiae without understanding the bigger picture:  you know, like the fact that CBO said the first stimulus added multiple points to the GDP AND, even now, is still working to keep people employed.

CBO finds 2009 stimulus still benefiting economy – The Hill’s On The Money

So, go back to the silly little greivances which animate your talk show host led party and leave the governing to the people who want to do more than win an election

I’m betting you don’t know many AND you think of successful people as being successes because they have money

How would you know what independents want?  you aren’t one

No, they won’t.  If you waste tax dollars by sending pallets of cash to Baghdad with no accounting for it, they will re-elect you.  if you waste taxpayer money by cutting safety regulations for mining companies, the mining companies executives will vote for you.  If you put Wall Street in charge of Wall Street, blow up the world economy, and give billions to the rich people who caused it, those people will start PAC’s, will run themselves, will bankroll the Tea party movement, and work their asses off to vote for you.

Cantor, hero of Medicaid Part D and the Iraq war vote, KNOWS how to waste taxpayer money

Hmmm…so every media outlet and their agrigators (CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, KERA, MSNBC, Huffington Post, Mediaite, etc…etc) are all paranoid? Okay, you said it not me…LOL

Or, is it because a damn interstate bridge fell into a river and that the American Society of Civil Engineers gives the state of our infrastructure a D?

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/

Is it because other places in the world have high speed rail, roads in good repair, and internet connections that are unbelievable better than ours?

Or, because infrastructure jobs have great multiplier effects?

I suppose if we just gave tax cuts to the already rich they could build private roads and helipads and maybe let us drive on them?

I believe Jon Stewart and Rachel Maddow got it right, however.

See, Valkyrie, just like I said below.  Compliant congress?  He forgets what happened to Snow and Collins and Specter when they voted for this. 

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE JOHN BOEHNER AND MAJORITY LEADER ERIC CANTOR.
Obama’s speech last can be considered TREASON.  He is doing everything possible to render our U.S. Congress meaningless.  Everyone start putting Obama in his place.  Obama, get this through your thick skull. There are 3 branches of government…your branch, Obama, has lost its credibility.  Obama has sidestepped Congress as a Hitler would.  Mr. Boehner and Mr. Cantor…the key word is DEFUND everything that weakens the agenda of George Soros, Obama, and Union Thugs.  Obama, when you egotistically spoke in the House of Representatives, you overlooked an important fact.  Americans have voted for members of Congress.  They represent the people of the United States.  There is no need for you to attack Congress by trampling all over the U.S. to speak to the voters.  Obama, you were in our House last night, and you spoke to the people, our representatives.  I don’t like what you have to say.  American can see right through you….what I see is EVIL.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE JOHN BOEHNER AND MAJORITY LEADER ERIC CANTOR.
Obama’s speech last can be considered TREASON.  He is doing everything possible to render our U.S. Congress meaningless.  Everyone start putting Obama in his place.  Obama, get this through your thick skull. There are 3 branches of government…your branch, Obama, has lost its credibility.  Obama has sidestepped Congress as a Hitler would.  Mr. Boehner and Mr. Cantor…the key word is DEFUND everything that weakens the agenda of George Soros, Obama, and Union Thugs.  Obama, when you egotistically spoke in the House of Representatives, you overlooked an important fact.  Americans have voted for members of Congress.  They represent the people of the United States.  There is no need for you to attack Congress by trampling all over the U.S. to speak to the voters.  Obama, you were in our House last night, and you spoke to the people, our representatives.  I don’t like what you have to say.  American can see right through you….what I see is EVIL.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

Hey clueless lib? If you understood Cantor and his positions on what the economy needs and does nor need you would have known he was referring to the economy when he said going for Zeros plan entirely was “not a way to win”

Even Ozero said you DO NOT RAISE TAXES IN A RECESSION and he said it TWICE the last time just 7 months ago. All Cantor was saying is WE, the economy and citizens all lose if Ozero raises taxes as he said he wants to do.

Zero said not ONE new thing last night, not ONE and all that added debt would create not ONE permanent job. What happens when th stimulus money he was proposing last night is gone? How do all those school teachers who were rehired with the money continue to get paid? The answer is they don’t and once the money is gone they are laid off again. This is why the first 2 stimulus pkgs failed and why this will also if it even passes th Congress which I doubt.

Only the PRIVATE sector can create lasting jobs. The government will only screw it up as they do every time they get involved.

Ozero is done, the Dems are done and the unions are done.

Yup.  “Win” at the cost of the further destruction of the nation.  Tis the Rat-Wing credo.

Let’s be honest, the objective is to defeat Obama first and worry about the economy later. I think Hannity went a bridge too far by calling Obama stupid. It doesn’t do much for that Fair and Balanced slogan.

What a wormy little bastard u just wanna punch in the mouth. Let me be clear, Both of them.

You are one weird lady

Tommy Christopher has willfully misrepresented Cantor’s remarks.

You can listen to the video or read the transcript to ascertain that.

CANTOR: No, it’s not. Again, I mean, the president is saying something is
bipartisan basically suggests that he knows what we would be for. Again, that’s
not how you get a win here. That’s not how we are going to
produce results for
the people that are out of work and for the people that are hurting in this
country.

So, I really do think there’s a better way. And the president, I think,
missed an opportunity to put his best foot forward to say, hey, we know
Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals are not going to agree on
a lot of things. But there are some things that we can do if we transcend those
differences and stick to what the mission here is. And that is to get

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2011/09/09/cantor-obamas-all-or-nothing-approach-jobs-bill-not-way-go#ixzz1XV1r73T1

Before this remark Cantor said that the plan did contain a couple of ideas that   “…there certainly are some things I think that we could some wins on
together for the people. But when he says, it is basically all or nothing, you
know, that is not how things can get done. That’s not a serious way to go and
accomplish some policy results.”

Clearly Cantor was saying that a wholesale passing of the president’s plan was not a a win for the American people, but that there are things in the plan that are “wins”. 

Evidently, it’s important that the people know the true context of Hoffa’s words when he talks about the sons-of-bitches who counter his positions, a Republican congressman, not so much…

The Primary goal of the republicans is defeat Obama first – and maybe JOBs but that is not important to them.
It is to the middle class. Obviously the fricking republicans haven’t done a damn thing about JOBS since lhey promised the voters last fall they would “create jobs”.

Lying fricking bastards.  Vote Democrat in 2012 if you want jobs .

Eric Cantor is a heartless Republican bastard.

Dan