I think Jon Stewart had it right: Romney is the GOP’s safety school.

How come the liberal press seldom shreds its own.  G Will always tells it how it is.

OUCH! that hurts

Dukakis is right, where do we find these leaders and why do we nominate closet libs!

Looks like MediaiteMatters has wised up and stopped promoting the OWS after Colby Hall’s initial loving embrace of them.

Could stories like this be the reason?:

Two Occupy Boston members have been arrested on drug charges, Boston police said yesterday.
Bostonians Isaac Bell, 34, and Charlene Dumont, 31, were both charged with distribution of a class A drug (heroin) and possession with intent to distribute a class A drug within 1,000 feet of a school zone, police say.

The 6-year-old child who was living with them in a tent is now staying with family members, police said.The arrests were made Friday after police said they received “multiple reports of drug activity in and around” Occupy Boston’s Rose Kennedy Greenway encampment.Also this weekend, protest-minded vandals made their mark on 21 downtown buildings, police said.At the Bank of America building at 100 Federal St., vandals spray-painted “Occupy,” “Bad for America” and “Yer building is crowding our skyline,” while the international anarchist symbol was painted on buildings at 100 Summer St., 101 Arch St. and 65 Franklin St.

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1023drug_vandalism_arrests_at_occupy_boston

Looks like MediaiteMatters has wised up and stopped promoting the OWS after Colby Hall’s initial loving embrace of them.

Could stories like this be the reason?:

Two Occupy Boston members have been arrested on drug charges, Boston police said yesterday.
Bostonians Isaac Bell, 34, and Charlene Dumont, 31, were both charged with distribution of a class A drug (heroin) and possession with intent to distribute a class A drug within 1,000 feet of a school zone, police say.

The 6-year-old child who was living with them in a tent is now staying with family members, police said.The arrests were made Friday after police said they received “multiple reports of drug activity in and around” Occupy Boston’s Rose Kennedy Greenway encampment.Also this weekend, protest-minded vandals made their mark on 21 downtown buildings, police said.At the Bank of America building at 100 Federal St., vandals spray-painted “Occupy,” “Bad for America” and “Yer building is crowding our skyline,” while the international anarchist symbol was painted on buildings at 100 Summer St., 101 Arch St. and 65 Franklin St.

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1023drug_vandalism_arrests_at_occupy_boston

Will is a nerdy little jerk. Why doesn’t he do the circle game with Rove, Krauthammer & Dick Morris?

Republicans found a guy who will change his positions to fit the current campaign.  Mind you, Romney is the pro-choice candidate who championed health insurance mandates.

“A technocratic Massachusetts governor running on competence, not ideology,” Will observed.
If voters think obama is a shrill for Wall Street, wait’ll they get a load of Romney. If it’s a battle of competence between barack and mitt, I’m fairly certain Obama will be serving a second term. Come to think of it, if voters base their decision on competence alone, there’s no reason to elect any GOP candidate. All the GOP has going for them is their lunatic ideology.. nothing more.

So what…you all including george will who should change his diapers before appearing on tv,pick Romney apart but look what you will get when the o man is reelected…..happy days to come!!!

Hey moderator,I have read alot worse….

Jon Stewart is right. I never liked Mitt until I watched 3 debates. Now it’s like, Dammmm, I guess he’s the best chance we have to beat Obamo… ok I’ll vote for him with a sigh.

what george will was trying to say in a round about way is that the gop literally has no feasable candidate for an election that’s just a year away…. they’ve got a bunch of incompetent clowns, some bordering on mental illness, delusion, extremism and ignorance.

I hate to reply to myself but it just reminded me of the need to eliminate the electoral college. I live in North MS so it makes no difference who I vote for. Our 5 electoral votes always goes Republican.

You mean like this?:

In November 2007, Obama answered “Yes” to Common Cause when asked “If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?”
Obama wrote: “In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”

You mean like this?:

In November 2007, Obama answered “Yes” to Common Cause when asked “If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?”
Obama wrote: “In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”

Way to stay on topic! Anyway, what is wrong with doing drugs?! Do we really want the awful nanny state regulating what we do with our bodies?!

Can you point me to the CURRENT thread on OWS? Didn’t think so, which is the point of the comment.
As for shooting heroin, while it would be a great way to rid the country of Liberals, I still do not encourage it’s use, especially in the same tent with 6 year old children around.

No, not like that. I’m talking about changing core positions to pander to the base. You’re not getting it at all.

I’m all for eliminating the Electoral College. It would make outcomes much fairer and more representative, and it wouldn’t concentrate the election on that same handful of swing states that get such a disproportionate amount of attention every year. 

Two people arrested from a movement of thousands hardly indicates a common theme!

I can guarantee that during the tea party protests, the crowd was littered with (legal) heroin users partaking in oxycontin…just like your precious Rushbo. The occupy movement has and always will be a movement with a purposeful cause. Demonizing a fraction of their supporters is a pathetic attempt at distraction from the real issues. 

BTW, what does this have to do with the original article? 

So a core position of Obama’s is to take private funding from corporations? I thought that Obama didn’t like Wall Street and sided with OWS?

Frankly – Obama has not declared any positions on which to stand.

How’s the book doing?

they have a clowns version of Obama—that is what they have been looking for anyway…
he will never get rid of ‘obamacare’ and he will never get rid of abortion..
so–what else did they hate?

Romney said, “I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake, I can’t have illegals.”

I would imagine when ran for office in Massachusetts he might have said something like ” I am running for office in Massachusetts. I can’t be  opposed to abortion and expect to win.

How do you reckon it’s elimination will be fairer? If each state regardless of demographics had an equal say, the north eastern (or populous states) would suffer immensely. 

You make it sound as if Will has many supporters in the conservative yard. The GOP intellectuals are despised by their own party. The GOP is well known for shunning it’s internal critics. I give you David Frum.

Spoken as someone who hasn’t paid any attention to the actual liberal press, which shreds liberals and near-liberals with incredible regularity. You’re probably thinking of the so-called mainstream media, which seems liberal only to conservatives.

Nice sophistry. His position is to take private funds…period. You disingenuously forget to mention the one millionth private donor mark reached just a week ago.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/10/obama-about-to-hit-1m-donors/1

His name is oxy con. What do you expect?

That was probably Romney’s most candid, honest moment since he first started running for president five years ago. 

Mitt Romney started running for president in the early 90′s. He never gave a dammm about being senator or governor from Massachusetts. It was just a necessary stepping stone to being president.

I think what he meant by fairer was that an election based on popular vote is the best way to go. Electoral politics is outdated and doesn’t represent the will of the overall population.

EXACTLY. What must kill many Republicans is knowing that Obama is beatable next year, but certainly not with a deeply flawed candidate like Mister Wall Street vulture capitalist Willard Romney. 

I don’t think most proponents of eliminating the EC would agree with you. To the contrary, it’s the small states — mostly red — that have an outsized role in picking the president, as they’ve created a sizable block that largely goes uncontested each election cycle. But I also think it would be fairer in that you wouldn’t have the same five or six swing states determining the election each time.

Fair enough. What about a representative electoral college…as in..you get a proportion of the popular vote for the EV. No more “winner takes all” policy?

Blue state Republicans and Red state Democrats are successful presidential candidates.

LBJ — Democrat from Texas
Nixon — Republican from California
Carter — Democrat from Georgia
Reagan — Republican from California
Bush — Republican from Connecticut
Clinton — Democrat from Arkansas

The pattern doesn’t hold for Bush 43 (Republican from Texas) or Obama (Democrat from Illinois), but these are not considered successful years for America either.

What the hell does that have to do with this clip?? Are you paid to write stuff like this?? Why are you deflecting???

 and he hilariously tries to tell us he’s not a career politician. The guy’s the son of a governor and has been campaigning for nearly 20 years.

 and he hilariously tries to tell us he’s not a career politician. The guy’s the son of a governor and has been campaigning for nearly 20 years.

Let me be the first to call George Will a RINO.

Except California was a Republican stronghold in Nixon and Reagan’s days.

@Verreauxii:disqus 

I don’t really see the need for a proportional EC. Isn’t it just as easy to have a direct election? What are you protecting against by having an EC? 

and Bush Sr. claimed his Texas hotel room as his home, rather than Connecticut.

You must be living in a bubble. The so-called liberal press has been quite critical of Obama. In fact, I just saw a Pew study that showed that there were FAR and away more negative stories about Obama than there were about any other candidate across a wide range of media. 

The GOP are so screwed this election.

Will is respected, though not always agreed with. Frum is virtually always wrong and has no particular body of work to recommend him as someone conservatives and/or Republicans should listen to. The fact that he’s the media’s favorite RINO puts him in a class with Meghan McCain, only without the rack.

And you Libtards found your Jimmy Carter In Obama hopefully he make a good Peanut farmer because he sucked worse than Jimmy as a President not that anyone with half a brain wouldn’t have been able to figure out.Libtards do not count they can’t help having defective genes.

You voted for Obama and you think we are screwed?I think the GOP being screwed is the least of your worries.

It should. But there’s an element of Dukakis’ campaign that Romney lacks and Will doesn’t mention which was the kiss of political death.

http://tinyurl.com/6x6g4xf

come off it! This should be expected from a bigot and a mormon apologist:

Dennis commented: Biggest population of black concentration areas are in the south. Well DUH!!!! Ever tried to gorw a watermelon in North Dakota???

thats you! you disgusting bigot!

the mormon god hated blacks till 78 then he changed his mind to get votes and cash! I guess his followers still dont buy into the idea after 33 years!

Youre the reason ill NEVER vote for the lds/romney 2012!

Ron Paul 2012
r3VOLution

Obama is beatable by mickey mouse there are not enough libtards to win reelection.

After he said he wouldn’t, period?

A bagel with lox named Bankster Thievenstien could beat Obama. The man is a thoroughly incompetent putz.

A bagel with lox named Bankster Thievenstien could beat Obama. The man is a thoroughly incompetent putz.

They won’t have to get rid of Obamacare. SCOTUS will take care of that next summer.

And Georgia wasn’t red in the 70′s. And the Carter days weren’t successful.

Frum is only disliked by the crackpot fringe because he actually makes sense, thinks for himself and doesn’t regurgitate El Rushbo’s nonsensical blather. And he’s been known to share some of the party’s dirty secrets, like the fact that the GOP is part and parcel of Fox News. 

Consequently, he scares the bejesus out of the right wing punditocracy, which needs to keep its audience stupid, angry and frightened, lest their ratings suffer. [Exhibit A: Pablo]

Find me any reputable conservative that praises Frum. Or fold it up nice and pointy and cram it where the sun doesn’t shine, freak.

Two? It’s probably approaching 2000 by now.

Frum is “the Balls” of the Republican party.

~Stephen Colbert

Because conservatism is death?

EC got us George Bush

So…just a popular vote nationwide and no state by state shenanigans? I see no problem with that. 

If he hadn’t, he would have lost the GE. It was a great unprecedented and strategic decision. It wasn’t a core policy position anyway ie. one that actually affects voters…that was his point. There’s a difference between flipping positions an on abortion stance (like Romney has) and changing your mind on how you will finance your presidential campaign. Does it really have to be spelled out for you?

Stewart was nowhere near the first person to say this.

Give us an example of where he’s “always wrong.” Frum is not an ideologue. That’s why he’s respected. He doesn’t do the talking points thing. It may behoove you to actually follow what goes on FrumForum rather than spout gibberish nonsense. 

“Reputable” conservative? Wow — you’re making it tough! These days that’s a bit of an oxymoron. 

But his blogger index has dozens of conservative authors, economists, pundits, journalists, intellectuals, intelligence analysts, GOP strategists and professors. 

Of course, if you’re looking for radio talk show hacks, you probably won’t find many.

I don’t care who wins, Romney or Obama.

I’m just happy it’ll be a Democrat.

Well, surely Bea Frum is a conservative mover and shaker, but then who?

“Reputable” conservative? Wow — you’re making it tough! These days that’s a bit of an oxymoron.

Right. A longtime Republican stalwart such as yourself can’t think of a one. Begone, troll.

Respected by whom? Names, please.

McCain promised to take public financing…and did so. So, Obama’s principles are disposable?

What was unprecedented? The lie is the only unprecedented thing I see. It wasn’t a policy that affects voters? Tell that to Occupy Everywhere.

Willard has the money behind him. The Candidate  with the most money behind them wins 94 % of the time. Polititicans are bougt and sold to the higgest bidder in both parties. Super pac s has made this prblem even worst.                                                 

Every vote would count!

Ironically, I never see his posts that I don’t think of El Rushbo’s favorite vice, Oxycontin!

Someone is giving out likes again in my name again, right wing childish dirty tricks. A lot seen to go to you Pablo. not saying it’s you but just noticing.

The parade of clowns just shows you how low the GOP have fallen.

Gee, I thought he has been running for 8 years. what else has he done in the last 8 years?

Here’s Jonah Goldberg disagreeing with him, but still making a point to state his respect. Does this count?

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/196969/frum-here-there/jonah-goldberg

I think you can be sued for false advertising for using the monicker “clever.” Better lawyer up.

Hey Maladroit, in case you don’t get it (and it’s pretty clear getting it is way out of your grasp), sensible people are in favor of the GOP being screwed.

We think it’s a good thing, and want more of it.

liberal simpletons.  Obama is balked at by the left for what he hasn’t done not what he has.  There is…a difference

“the most refreshing ideological experience in a generation.”

~William F. Buckley on David Frum’s 1994 book, Dead Right

That’s from Frum’s wiki page. Here’s some more reading if interested.

http://conventions.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/st_20100410_7634.php

And because Romney is so inept at parroting the wild contradictions that make up Republican ideology, he’s “not feeling the love.” Not to mention that competence is anathema to Republicans (kinda sounds like elitism, don’t ya know), as was proved throughout the Bush years.

I tend to think that Romney will end up being the R nominee because his fellow candidates can be relied upon to continue their self-immolatary ways. And then he’ll splatter on Obama’s windshield and never be heard of again.

George Will is the south-end of a horse.

That being so, you probably don’t need to bother voting next year. I’d talk it up with your friends. Who needs to complicate a perfectly good Tuesday by finding your polling place when the outcome is already known?

TWO OCCUPY BOSTON MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED!!!

Oh, my fucking god!!!

The banksters were right! It really is their money, it just sits in our wallets for little while when they send it out on day trips. We must all apologize to our masters for our gross insubordination.

I mean if TWO WHOLE PEOPLE have broken the law, well then we must be wrong about evvvverything.

I’m so sorry.

(And I didn’t even get to the graffiti vandals. Shit, we should just all kill ourselves — everything we believed in has been proven untrue).

Intellectuals, when discovered to be Republicans, are rounded up by party enforcers under the command of Bernie Kerik (hey! he needed a job) and taken out back and shot.

It’s just the way they roll.

im_lovin_it, he knows Frum personally, and is giving him a crumb of brotherly love while slapping him around. Does that count? 12voltman, I believe I’ve mentioned that you should get your password straightened out, and that I really don’t care. I still don’t.

So incompetent…none of the Republican contenders are beating him in the polls. Makes a lot of sense…skippy. That tells you how voters view YOU people. You are worse than Obama.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

Oh look!

Last month, after publishing an article criticizing the Republicans’ obstructionist strategy on health care reform as a self-inflicted disaster…

Guess what Frum was? Wrong!

As for Frum’s 1994 book:

Drawing on interviews with party leaders, pollsters, direct mail specialists, and journalists, Forbes columnist Frum paints a picture of a party that forgot its historic conservative message in order to position itself in the middle of the American political road. Noting that the government grew apace under Reagan and Bush despite rhetoric to the contrary, Frum takes Reagan to task for letting entitlements get out of hand and criticizes Bush’s federal aid programs as more big government. Frum contends that the GOP’s job is to reduce federal bureaucracy to the minimum size feasible under present political
conditions. Aiming at that goal will spell success for the party.

…I think Frum should go back and read it. Square that with his Obamacare support, for instance.

http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Right-David-Frum/dp/0465098258/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1319417500&sr=8-3

George Will is right.  

Go ahead, nominate Romney….it’ll be 4 more years of Obama.

Romney is John Kerry/Dukakis in GOP clothing.

You’ve already got them — dozens of leading writers and thinkers and authors and strategists who’ve contributed to his blog. 

(And I love the fact that you singled out his daughter Bea. At 9 years old she’s already twice as smart as Mark Levin!)

And that difference would be what exactly? 

Nothing. But it’s what they like talking about. 

1655 arrests as of October 16th. http://occupybostonglobe.com/2011/10/18/summary-of-arrests-at-occupy-protests-nationwide/

That’s not counting 175 in Chicago this weekend or 45 in Cincinnati or 15 in Philly today…

There’s an established pattern here.

I probably don’t, but I will because I enjoy doing it. But if you want to stay home, then by all means, do.

So if I adopted a Coca-Cola related handle, would you think of Obama’s favorite vice?

Here we go again,

George Will, RINO, damned DC ELITIST! Calling “you have to work with what you have” Mittens A GUARANTEED LOSER one year ahead of elections!

Herbs 666 – Mittens 2012!

In truth, Romney is probably the best shot you’ve got. 

Cain is already starting to implode as people have examined the real cost of his 999 plan. And now the socialcons don’t trust him on abortion. This dog won’t hunt.

Bachmann is certifiably nuts. She gets her facts wrong, is a Jesus freak and has actually called for a McCarthyite commission to investigate her fellow congressmen. Good luck selling witch hunts.  

Perry is, well, Perry. What you see is what you get. Unfortunately for him, the more people see of him, the less they like him. No new Texans!

Gingrich is DOA. His half million dollar credit line with Tiffany will play as well as McCain’s not knowing how many houses he owns did in 2008. That kind of elitism will be a very hard sell. 

Santorum. Uh, right. Even his kids can’t google him. And he lost his last race in PA by 16 points.

Huntsman is the the best in class, but of course you can’t be nominated in the GOP if you in believe in evolution. 

So like it or not, you’re stuck with Mittens.

If you think he’s Judas or an alien masquerading as David Frum then I would understand that. That wasn’t your point, though.

You said he’s not respectable, however, and  several people have pointed out that he’s a lot more than a disreputable RINO being used as a foil for the dastardly liberal media. Did you forget you wrote this?

Will is respected, though not always agreed with. Frum is
virtually always wrong and has no particular body of work to recommend
him as someone conservatives and/or Republicans should listen to. The
fact that he’s the media’s favorite RINO puts him in a class with Meghan
McCain, only without the rack.

I don’t care very much for David Frum. Same goes for Will, Krauthammer, Brooks, Goldberg, and so on. They do, however, reside on Earth, which is starting to become a very rare treat from the right these days.

Let me introduce you to the concept of “distinctions.” Distinctions, this is Pablo. Pablo, this is Distinctions.

OxyCon attempted to invalidate the OWS movement because two people were arrested for drug possession. This is distinct (note that word) from arrests for trespassing, curfew violations, failure to follow a police officer’s instructions, etc., etc. which are an intrinsic part of a long-term protest, and in fact necessary from the protesters’ point of view.

Now, you may reject this point of view because it takes more effort to explain than it does to spit out the phrase “dirty hippies,” but you and yours are already consigned to the dustbin of history, so I really don’t give a damn.

You’ve already got them — dozens of leading writers and thinkers and authors and strategists who’ve contributed to his blog.

Writers and thinkers leading who? Leading what? Who are you talking about?

You’ve already got them — dozens of leading writers and thinkers and authors and strategists who’ve contributed to his blog.

Writers and thinkers leading who? Leading what? Who are you talking about?

You said he’s not respectable, however, and  several people have pointed out that he’s a lot more than a disreputable RINO being used as a foil for the dastardly liberal media.

No, I said this: “Find me any reputable conservative that praises Frum.”

Right up ^^^^there^^^^.

Same goes for Will, Krauthammer, Brooks, Goldberg, and so on. They do, however, reside on Earth, which is starting to become a very rare treat
from the right these days.

Goldberg is a very sharp guy, and a bestselling author! http://tinyurl.com/43sxgk8

Let me introduce you to words, expatpatriot. Let’s start with three of OxyCon’s: “stories like this”.

Would you like to tackle them individually, or can you handle the three of them together?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149966/Obama-September-Approval-Rating-Remains-Term-Low.aspx

George Will should be ashamed. There’s no need to insult Michael Dukakis and drag him into Perry’s train wreck of a candidacy.

Pablo, your reverting to insults shows you don’t have anything substantial to say vis-a-vis ex-GOP’s statements.

David Frum is a Republican in the truest sense. He’ll be around for a long time, unlike the fringe mentality that has hijacked the Republican Party. I don’t agree with him on much, but I do respect his intelligence and – in my opinion – integrity.
 

Oh, my.

Are you proving my point for me? He polls THAT bad, yet, none of your contenders can beat him head to head.
Again…http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

Shockingly, words are actually related to concepts, and vice versa. Maybe I should have suggested that you sit down before I laid that one on you.

Let me repeat a few words of mine: “attempted to invalidate the OWS movement because two people were arrested for drug possession.” Hmm. Change needed? Nope.

OK, that’s just Pablo being obtuse again.

ABO (Anybody But Obama) but Romney is a close follower.

Republicans can nominate anyone they want and still beat Obama.

The Electoral College came about as a cost of forming the federation. With full hindsight, rationally it should be been eliminated as the reparations for the South losing the Civil War. That it was not eliminated   allowed for the South to continue to dream on towards the day when it could use the weapons at hand to reframe the Civil War as a mere battle, and to win the longer war for its vision of the US over that of the North. The Electoral College has proven one of the, if not the single, most powerful weapons in that war.

Actually “eliminating” the Electoral College per se is impossible, given the clear requirements under the Constitution for amending it, not least of which is the requirement that, even if passed in the House & Senate & then signed into law, it would then have to be ratified by two-thirds of the states – when more than one third of the states benefits for the additional empowerment the Electoral College provides them.

But while the Electoral College cannot be eliminated, it can be significantly emasculated. For example, there is of course a campaign underway already to eliminate one key feature of the Electoral College, in relation to election of the president. Indeed, a number of states already have passed the state legislation necessary to commit all that state’s ‘seats’ in the Electoral College to the winner of the overall popular vote (Among other things, this would make the majority decision in Bush v Gore in 2000 look more than merely opportunistic, but simple, intolerable obstructionism, of the sort that would result in then entire majority in that case being forthwith impeached.). Moreover, the beauty in this approach is that it’s not necessary to achieve a two-thirds majority, because it works through the system now in place: all that’s necessary is to gather up at least 270 Electoral College ‘seats’ among however many states sign on to it.

The Electoral College came about as a cost of forming the federation. With full hindsight, rationally it should be been eliminated as the reparations for the South losing the Civil War. That it was not eliminated   allowed for the South to continue to dream on towards the day when it could use the weapons at hand to reframe the Civil War as a mere battle, and to win the longer war for its vision of the US over that of the North. The Electoral College has proven one of the, if not the single, most powerful weapons in that war.

Actually “eliminating” the Electoral College per se is impossible, given the clear requirements under the Constitution for amending it, not least of which is the requirement that, even if passed in the House & Senate & then signed into law, it would then have to be ratified by two-thirds of the states – when more than one third of the states benefits for the additional empowerment the Electoral College provides them.

But while the Electoral College cannot be eliminated, it can be significantly emasculated. For example, there is of course a campaign underway already to eliminate one key feature of the Electoral College, in relation to election of the president. Indeed, a number of states already have passed the state legislation necessary to commit all that state’s ‘seats’ in the Electoral College to the winner of the overall popular vote (Among other things, this would make the majority decision in Bush v Gore in 2000 look more than merely opportunistic, but simple, intolerable obstructionism, of the sort that would result in then entire majority in that case being forthwith impeached.). Moreover, the beauty in this approach is that it’s not necessary to achieve a two-thirds majority, because it works through the system now in place: all that’s necessary is to gather up at least 270 Electoral College ‘seats’ among however many states sign on to it.

The more interesting point is, Why is WILL making this attack? He’s normally the reliable barometer of the Washington D.C. GOP insiders.

There’s no evidence for or reason to think he’s lost that status, so we have to consider that this attack on Mitt is at least approved and perhaps even originates in the GOP establishment (the pre-Tea Party bosses). Fine then: who is it the GOP establishment really wants to get nominated? I shouldn’t think Cain, who’s been identified as the current steady of the Tea Party. We know Rove is working against Perry and presumably for, or most for, Romney. So, if not Romney, and not Cain – who? 

The easiest response is Perry; but it also might explain why Huntsman keeps getting invited whenever he chooses to attend, despite nearly no support in any poll.

So voting is really redundant for folks like yourself, I take it. Why don’t you give it a pass next year. It’s not like you’ll make a difference.

common sense, that would make sense if I hadn’t addresses his arguments, but the fact that I did shows  that I have things to say regarding them, ya moron.

See, I can address your arguments and then insult you. I do it because you deserve it.

Common sense ain’t all that common.

It’s not an attack, it’s his opinion and it’s backed up by the fact that Romney can’t get past 25% or so, despite being the anointed “frontrunner” from the get go.

Why do you dismiss the possibility that Will is simply calling it as he sees it?

OK, “stories like this” refers to a group of stories similar to the one story being related. It  Thus, statements like this:

OxyCon attempted to invalidate the OWS movement because two people were arrested for drug possession.

…demonstrate your utter lack of comprehension and terminal obtuseness. It is not because of two people. The two people are two of thousands of miscreants that represent your socially retarded movement.

The election is a year out. As the incumbent, he should be demolishing his unnamed opponent. Instead, he’s losing by 8 points.

U.S. registered voters, by 46% to 38%, continue to say they are more likely to vote for the Republican presidential candidate than for Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150116/Generic-Republican-Continues-Lead-Obama-Vote.aspx

Amigo,

I tend to agree with Will’s assessment.  I have said for a couple of years now, that Romney is a “cookie cutter candidate,” or, was it a “paper cut doll?” LOL  Either way, Romney strikes me as the man the “Republican powers that be,” have decided on.  As a Tea Party man, that makes me angry!

Two reasons: First, I am sick of the electorate being disregarded, and second, the situation America finds itself in, is too perilous, we need a pure Conservative.  Unfortunately, there is the usual social morality crowd focused on the abortion, issue, etc., to distraction.  I believe the Conservatives lose votes because moderates are afraid to align themselves with the Religious Right?  What the right may lose, conversely, they would gain.

Right now, today, this election is about the economy and our National security.  The two issues are intertwined and we’d better remember that!  Social issues are ancillary and a distraction.  At this juncture, I like Cain and Gingrich.  I suggest that Gingrich understands America needs a bit less Ghandi and a little more Machiavelli regarding foreign affairs. Ouch!  

Anyway, whats your opinion, any thoughts?

Purveyor

You’ve been posting your little trolling with that moronic avatar, for so long now, you probably believe by now you are in fact Joe Biden.

I guess we can only hope that to relieve us of the boredom you provide, that Biden himself will find your love letters so creepy he’ll think you’re a Mark Chapman in waiting and call out the secret service on you.

Bravo!
Though you know I disagree with your most conservative statements (I am a liberal, not a socialist), I say your understanding of the misuse of wedge issues–abortion and gay rights vs. the “wrongness of being gay”–are distractions that at the very least must be dropped until the much more important economic matters are resolved.

The only Republican candidates who have a chance are the ones with far more reach than the Religious Right can give them. Example, Bachmann and Santorum have provided zero on economics and national defense other than tough talk. It is clear neither one of them would know what to do with the military if they became Commander in Chief.

(By the way, did you notice that there was no rebellion in the ranks when DADT died?)

As for Cain, I can see that he is trying to balance his libertarian side–abortion is not a government concern–with his religious side–abortion is a sin–and it comes out as confusion. If it were not a wedge issue that only a tiny minority sees as the most important thing in the world, it would not have come up and we would all be concentrating on what really matters NOW.

Bravo!
Though you know I disagree with your most conservative statements (I am a liberal, not a socialist), I say your understanding of the misuse of wedge issues–abortion and gay rights vs. the “wrongness of being gay”–are distractions that at the very least must be dropped until the much more important economic matters are resolved.

The only Republican candidates who have a chance are the ones with far more reach than the Religious Right can give them. Example, Bachmann and Santorum have provided zero on economics and national defense other than tough talk. It is clear neither one of them would know what to do with the military if they became Commander in Chief.

(By the way, did you notice that there was no rebellion in the ranks when DADT died?)

As for Cain, I can see that he is trying to balance his libertarian side–abortion is not a government concern–with his religious side–abortion is a sin–and it comes out as confusion. If it were not a wedge issue that only a tiny minority sees as the most important thing in the world, it would not have come up and we would all be concentrating on what really matters NOW.

Your flat statement “Republicans can nominate anyone they want and still beat Obama.” is a red flag of desperation, not confidence. If you are really “in the conversation” you need to give reasons why Will is right or wrong.
Be more like purveyor1 and I will at least respect your reasoning, even though I disagree with you. As it is now, all I have to say is you are trying to change the subject because you don’t like the truth of your party’s weakness. You try to hide that with a brave statement that convinces no one.

And there is the fact that Cain is “not a politician” because he lost at least one attempt at getting elected. (Georgia, 2004, Senate race and he didn’t get past the primary.)

Brilliantly convincing.

We don’t count?
We got Obama elected.
That still “counts.”
If we are “defective,” that is something you have to live with because we are going to get Obama re-elected just because we want to make YOU miserable. :-)

I think you are too late to claim that credit, but then again, maybe Will is the Real Republican and you are the RINO.

Nothing wrong with that thing. Dukakis was a wimp in other things. He didn’t gain or lose votes because of that tank ride.

People for the elimination of the E.C. show their ignorance of history and their education. We are a Representative REPUBLIC people, NOT a Democracy. The founding fathers assured the inclusion of smaller states in the process with the electoral college.

A very wise man once said “Pure democracies are not practical, the majority of the population is too lazy and too ignorant to sufficiently inform themselves on the issues and candidates too vote wiselY”

Every vote DOES count 12 volt! See my post above. We are a Representative republic NOT a Democracy!   “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the mostbenefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy”

With the E.C. eliminated the only possible outcome is an assured financial collapse as the producers are milked dry by the consumers!

I thought Romney was being compared to another “moderate”, Bush 41, who beat Dukakis.

They all do that.  It’s called being a politician.

If it is between Mitt and Newt, I would rather forgive Newt for his sins and take Newt. I am sorry Mitch Daniels did not run, or Judd Gregg or John Kasich. I thought Rick Perry was going to be better than he has been…

The American people are clearly smarter than you.

Maybe Romney could beat Obama. Maybe Huntsman (but he’s not going to win the nomination). None of the other Republican contenders have (IMO) a snowball’s chance in hell — not because Obama’s not vulnerable, but because they’re blatantly and extravagantly unqualified for the role.

You have to ask yourself, Do I want the nutbags running my party? If your answer is Yes, you’d better prepare for a very long time in the wilderness, because my reading is that the people will reject that nuttiness next year.

Mitt Romney Clarifies His Flip Flops! (Cartoon)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbrDHk-42A