Well, we can’t cry over what’s already done…oh, wait! lol

This guy has no clue what “The American people” want, no matter how much he says it.

“John Boehner On Spending And The State Of The Union: ‘We’re Broke’”

Now, that makes at least three people who understand.

Nacho said:
This guy has no clue what “The American people” want, no matter how much he says it.

Not all of us are like the typical liberal who want a free ride on everything and no responsibilities for having had that free ride.

If we’re broke then why do you keep insisting on tax cuts? Isn’t that contradictory?

We’re BROKE Mr. POTUS!!! Did you have a good time spending every penny? I hope you are proud of yourself. You are single handedly responsible for destroying the future of every child in America! Sleep well my friend.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
If we’re broke then why do you keep insisting on tax cuts? Isn’t that contradictory?

you are going to make him cry.

it is time we started paying our way again. my daddy fought in ww2 and then came home and paid for it in taxes without complaint. all republicans ever want is tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts and then they out spend the democrats….and then develop amnesia about their spending habits. i hope the folks in washington figure this out. i think this tea party crowd will be just as bad. soon as they find the cookie jar, they will spend like lindsay lohan in a shoe store.

youre burying the lead, Kathleen Parker got a big interview… By herself! I dont think shes done anything like this at CNN before this.

And Last night, she had a long segment kicking it back and forth with John King, and i thought they worked great together. Much more natural than the dynamic she has with “Elliot.”

Sorry, you need to stop telling your creditors, China and Saudi Arabia, that you’re broke or they might just stop lining our pockets to fight wars for them.

I think what Boehner meant to say is that the GOP is BANKRUPT when it comes to new ideas.

Dem4Ever said:
We’re BROKE Mr. POTUS!!! Did you have a good time spending every penny? I hope you are proud of yourself

But not too broke to give tax cuts to the rich in perpetuity. Or too broke to get the Chinese to pay for our wars since the American people are too cheap to pay for them ourselves. Spare us, tool.

You do realize why our Chinese benefactors continue to bail us out is, so far, we still have some remnants of a Middle Class capable of buying their cheaply made crap. It has been the GOP that has done the best job of destroying that Middle Class.

Sell that we’re broke crap to your billionaire friends who are reaping higher salaries than they ever reaped EVER. Maybe we’re too broke to keep propping up their industries with corporate welfare.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
If we’re broke then why do you keep insisting on tax cuts? Isn’t that contradictory?

What, a GOP leader being hypocritical? No? Why doesn’t the GOP just come clean and tell us all that they want nothing more than to chuck grandma out into the snow and take her Social Security and Medicare and go to town with it on Wall Street for the benefit of their corporate pals.

Sorry Boehner, it’s not grandma’s fault that the world doesn’t see America as a strong viable investment anymore. It’s the bankers and wall street investors that you spend more time defending than you do grandma. But when fake conservatives start taking their grandparents in and start paying for their health care, they can lecture to the rest of us about how broke we are.

X-3 said:
Not all of us are like the typical liberal who want a free ride on everything and no responsibilities for having had that free ride.

You mean the RED STATES that have been living high on the hog on blue sate money for decades. Sorry, but the states that actually take more from the federal coffers than they actually invest in it, are GOP-ran states. And even with all that free money, those states still tend to wind up at the bottom on income levels, education standards, and the lowest levels of insured citizens. So I ask, what the heck are Red States doing with all that FREE MONEY.

Or is Boehner basically saying that it’s perfectly ok for our kids to be educated to 19th standards and to live at third world poverty levels? As long as we can continue to provide corporate tax havens for his friends.

Yeah! Darn the Republicans and their non-tax increase…. er, I mean tax cut.

The real villian is that guy who said the tax cuts would help stimulate the economy and get things growing again.

Darn you Republican President Obama! Oh, wait. Hmmm.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
If we’re broke then why do you keep insisting on tax cuts? Isn’t that contradictory?

OK, let’s see if I can lay it out for you so you’ll get it.

Let’s say an individual who runs a business pays $250K/year in taxes and she has 50 employees who each make $50,000/year. Now, let’s say that business owner’s taxes are increased to $300K/year. The business owner does not want to be made to suffer from her increased tax burden so she gives the old pink slip to one of her $50K/tear employees and feels no pain from doing so.

Now, let’s say the same business owner has her taxes decreased to only $200K/year. She sees the opportunity to expand her business by either hiring a new employee or buying more equipment. In either case, someone, somewhere is better off for her investment.

As for me, I never want to work for a poor person because they most likely can’t afford to pay me what I’m worth.

Also, the private sector creates jobs–NOT the government–and the more jobs that are created, the more demand for employees there will be, and that translates into job security for us both.

Kind of simple when you look at it from another perspective and get past hating the people who have more than you, isn’t it?

A Kim Bo said:
But not too broke to give tax cuts to the rich in perpetuity. Or too broke to get the Chinese to pay for our wars since the American people are too cheap to pay for them ourselves. Spare us, tool.

You do realize why our Chinese benefactors continue to bail us out is, so far, we still have some remnants of a Middle Class capable of buying their cheaply made crap. It has been the GOP that has done the best job of destroying that Middle Class.

Sell that we’re broke crap to your billionaire friends who are reaping higher salaries than they ever reaped EVER. Maybe we’re too broke to keep propping up their industries with corporate welfare.

Spare us your wacked out conspiracy theories.  You’re on drugs or you are drunk or both.  You know your POTUS has bankrupted the country.  If you want to pay higher taxes feel free to do so, you tool.

X-3 said:
Also, the private sector creates jobs–NOT the government–and the more jobs that are created, the more demand for employees there will be, and that translates into job security for us both.

I’ve seen a lot of private sector small business’s go down the toilet because of that one shop fits all corporation called Walmart. The same corporation that had hired illegal immigrants.

X-3 said:
Kind of simple when you look at it from another perspective and get past hating the people who have more than you, isn’t it?

Kind of simple if you look at it from another perspective and get past hating the people that have less than you and would like a fair and decent opportunity to flourish. Outsourcing is not helping their struggle.

You know I’m about sick of hearing that we have to keep pouring more and more money into public education when there is no measurable proof of how much it helps or if it even does help. Education is what each student makes of it and at no time in our national history has it been easier to teach oneself anything and everything, thanks to the internet and public libraries. Yet, we cannot seem to even bribe enough kids to do well. I say, quit trying. If they want to learn, let them work for the honor of learning. If not, how is that any worse than right now? They should all be distance learning for school by now anyway. I’m sick of paying for “social interaction” and teaching careers/pensions. And by the way, I’m the daughter of 2 retired teachers and a certified teacher myself. The system is broke and only a ghost of it’s once great former self.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
If we’re broke then why do you keep insisting on tax cuts? Isn’t that contradictory?

If we’re broke then why do you insist upon more spending? Isn’t that contradictory?

X-3 said:
Not all of us are like the typical liberal who want a free ride on everything and no responsibilities for having had that free ride.

but but, what about the little chilren

Nacho said:
This guy has no clue what “The American people” want, no matter how much he says it.

Right! We want more debt and regulation, and government controls over everything in our lives. I mean, considering how well everything has turned out. we need more of the same. Yea, DemonCrits!!

The first rule of the Obama tax cuts is that you don’t talk about the Obama tax cuts.

We’re broke, John Boehner isn’t.

MiddleRoader said:
I’ve seen a lot of private sector small business’s go down the toilet because of that one shop fits all corporation called Walmart. The same corporation that had hired illegal immigrants.

IF WalMart knowingly hires criminal aliens–of which I have yet to see ANY proof that they knowingly have or had–they deserve to be fined or serve appropriate jail time for doing so. But, like I said, I have yet to see any proof that they knowingly hired criminal aliens, even though WalMart would be a prime target for ICE to investigate.

Speaking of hiring criminal aliens, it seems the smaller shops and construction companies have the greater proclivity to do so–there are also individuals who hire criminal aliens as domestic help. Should they not get the same penalty if we’re to have equal justice under the law?

Moreover, I believe you’re either misinformed or have some vendetta with WalMart because you are either a competitor, are angry with WalMart because they eschew unions, or are jealous of their success. As for me, I like saving money, and shopping WalMart is the place to do it.

Scrapette Jones said:
I’m sick of paying for “social interaction” and teaching careers/pensions.

Two excellent points but without social interaction, how can our children come to understand what it feels like to be bullied and how to snort bath salts so they can see all those pretty colors?

MiddleRoader said:
Kind of simple if you look at it from another perspective and get past hating the people that have less than you and would like a fair and decent opportunity to flourish. Outsourcing is not helping their struggle.

America is ALL about opportunity to make the most of one’s self, and you severely miscalculate when you suggest I have any resentment for those who have less than I. My resentment is toward those who could do better but are too lazy to make the effort. I was born dirt poor and I beat the odds by perseverence and belief in the system of the United States where anyone can succeed if they have the desire to do so. I was 31 years old when I graduated from college.

I will admit that I have no particular brilliance except the willingness to do what it takes to succeed while following the principals of honesty and good ethics. By following these standards, I started and ran three successful businesses and I know what it means to work 12-14 hours per day and to go for three years without a full day off. I did that for YEARS!

Through diligence, I put my girls through college and sent them on summer vacations with their mother when they were small while I stayed home working. I now enjoy their respect for my efforts on their behalf, and even though I sold one of my companies for an obscene profit, the love of my family is my greatest treasure. I’m not bragging here, all I’m trying to get across is that if I can do it, ANYONE can do it.

A Kim Bo said:
So I ask, what the heck are Red States doing with all that FREE MONEY.

Ask yourself which states are bankrupt: California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, Michigan, Ohio are in the worst shape. These are states that have lived in the vision of liberalism, socialism, progressivism, communism, and statism. This did not work so well. And which are getting the biggest handouts from the Feds? The SAME states. Which will be coming to the Feds for a bailout to make up for their gross mismanagement? The SAME states. These states have learned–as the Federal government will soon learn–that one may never spend their way to prosperity and that everyone cannot have a free ride. The sooner this country swallows this bitter pill the better off our children and grandchildren will be. Fiscal responsibility is the key to success, liberalism is the key to failure.

We’re broke, John Boehner isn’t.

X-3 said:
These states have learned–as the Federal government will soon learn–that one may never spend their way to prosperity and that everyone cannot have a free ride.

Great post, X-3. But I gotta disagree with the sentence I quoted. Liberals NEVER learn. They complain that their failure is that there wasn’t enough property confiscated from those who earned it, and not enough regulation to compress enough liberty.

X-3 said:
Which will be coming to the Feds for a bailout to make up for their gross mismanagement?

So you’re saying that red states are going to FINALLY start pulling their own weight and stop sponging off of funds from the rest of the country? It’s about time.

A Kim Bo said:
So you’re saying that red states are going to FINALLY start pulling their own weight and stop sponging off of funds from the rest of the country? It’s about time.

ALL states MUST do it and do it NOW.

A Kim Bo said:
So you’re saying that red states are going to FINALLY start pulling their own weight and stop sponging off of funds from the rest of the country? It’s about time.

Not saying that they will but saying that they MUST. It’s really up to you and me to make this happen. Are you up to the task?

Davo said:
Great post, X-3. But I gotta disagree with the sentence I quoted. Liberals NEVER learn. They complain that their failure is that there wasn’t enough property confiscated from those who earned it, and not enough regulation to compress enough liberty.

Sigh….you’re probably correct, but as I remarked to A Kim Bo, it will require that WE demand that it happens. I’ll ask you the same question I asked A Kim Bo: Are you up to the task? It will take more than just my voice.

A Kim Bo said:
So you’re saying that red states are going to FINALLY start pulling their own weight and stop sponging off of funds from the rest of the country? It’s about time.

X-3 said:
ALL states MUST do it and do it NOW.

Exactly right. For the most part, it’s not about which states are sponging off of others as much as it is which people are sponging off of others. The blue state public sector workers ripping off the producers have more in common with the red state public sector workers than they do with the producers in their blue states.

Further, I would also question the notion of who gets more money. There is some funny math in the way people look at that. For instance, where does a parasite state like Maryland fall in that? It might well be counted as getting less money than many red states, but if so, that is total BS. Better than 40% of the jobs in MD are because of the public trough. The way they SHOULD do the math on those things is to consider the salaries of all public sector people, less taxes, as a TAKE. Because 100% of what a public sector employee gets paid IS TAKEN from others. But in the red/blue state comparisons I have seen, they fudge that. Again, Maryland is a good example. No taxes “paid” by public sector employees should be considered. Only private sector taxes paid should be counted. To do it right would take even more adjustment, because there are plenty of “private” contractors whose contracts are again from the public trough.

John Boehner On Spending And The State Of The Union: “We’re Broke”

And, like the Shake’n'bake kid, YOU HELPED! (TARP, Medicare part D, all the budgets for the last decade, multiple undeclared wars and endless other meddling in sovereign states’ affairs, medicare, medicaid, social security, farm subsidies…)

Just_MC said:
John Boehner On Spending And The State Of The Union: “We’re Broke” And, like the Shake’n’bake kid, YOU HELPED! (TARP, Medicare part D, all the budgets for the last decade, multiple undeclared wars and endless other meddling in sovereign states’ affairs, medicare, medicaid, social security, farm subsidies…)

and made himself wealthy in the process.

You’ve really got to love the Orange-American’s “can’t-do” spirit.

Remember when Republicans thought it was fashionable to call on Reagan’s optimism?

Yeah, they’re not doing that anymore.

X-3 said:
Are you up to the task? It will take more than just my voice.

I am. But we’ll need someone to vote for to lead the nation out of the darkness the way Reagan led the nation kicking and screaming out of Carter’s darkness and out of the cold war with the USSR. We need a leader. So far,………………….

I’ve said before that the Tea Party must separate itself from the Re-Putty-Cans who still haven’t gotten the message. Reps do, however, try to hide themselves amongst the Conservatives who also are “up to the task?” We can vote out the RINO’s and DemoCrits, but we still need someone to lead the charge.

Ah, red state, blue state nonsense. More tax dollars are returned to red states because our government owns land and institutions in those states. Military installations, federal lands, government facilities, etc. Across the western states the country as a whole has other obligations…. Indian reservations, fed water projects, highways, etc.

Also, red state’s have an aging population, lots of SS/medicare recipients, the rest of their employed population can’t support what the nation owns in their states, not enough people the wages are lower.

Blue states are heavily populated, earn higher incomes, have less elderly per capita and usually blue staters just love taxes anyway.

Might be exceptions due to past elections, who knows, blue states might be sending more money to blue states that still receive more taxes back than what they send in.

This may help:

Don’t get hooked by geography in federal spending

http://www.edlotterman.com/RWE/Articles/20100909.htm

btw, I live in a blue state, the failed state of Illinois.

Just_MC said:
The way they SHOULD do the math on those things is to consider the salaries of all public sector people, less taxes, as a TAKE. Because 100% of what a public sector employee gets paid IS TAKEN from others.

Good analogy and a fine example of geometric thinking. I’ll ask you the same question as I asked the others: Are YOU up to making your demands known to your elected representatives? (I somehow think you might already have done so, and that’s a good thing.)

Rio said:
Ah, red state, blue state nonsense. More tax dollars are returned to red states because our government owns land and institutions in those states. Military installations, federal lands, government facilities, etc. Across the western states the country as a whole has other obligations…. Indian reservations, fed water projects, highways, etc.

Just asking: Have you done a thorough examination on this posit? It seems there are a LOT of public lands in California, and a LOT of miliatry bases, too. Then, there are several miliatry bases and lots of public land in Maryland, Virginia, and Nuevo York.

This debate has been around for a few years, my “posit” was basically from memory, during my internet travels I found the the site I posted above.

Yesterday I did visit the Tax Foundation’s site and looked at the breakdown, the most current graph they post is from 2005.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/266.html

Both New York and California have high income earners and heavy populations, their return was $.79 and $.78 per dollar paid in 2005. Virginia’s return was $1.51 and Maryland received $1.30. For states, it’s like your income taxes without deductions, you earn more, you pay more.

Consider the state of South Dakota, their 2009 population was 812,383, compared to the 2009 population of the two cities…. New York City; 8,391,881, LA; 1,091,978. SD has Indian reservations, military installations, fed parks, lower wages ….compare the entire state of SD to the two heavily populated cities and the high wage industries they have.

I saw a graph from 2000 yesterday, can’t find it again, but DC was receiving over $6.00 per every dollar paid in, we gotta support all the marble, fountains and hot air. In this graph their return has dropped to $5.55. With the new DC federal hiring and Harry’s new visitor center(sarc), we can probably conclude that figure has gone back up considerably.

As Mr. Boehner whines about how broke we are on one hand, one the other, he favors raising the debt ceiling? As of 2008, our national annual welfare debt alone rose to $714-Billion. If Mr.Boehner is looking for a place to start cutting, welfare should be the place to start. I would suggest he could start by passing legislation cutting off all welfare programs to illegal alien, and the he look at putting those able bodied people on welfare to work cleaning the cities they live in.

Rio said:
Yesterday I did visit the Tax Foundation’s site and looked at the breakdown, the most current graph they post is from 2005.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/266.html

Thanks for this link! It sad that it is now 6 years old and I would like to see an updated version, but the distribution is not what I would have suspected. (And you’re correct about the “charity” the rest of us give to DC!)

Davo said:
We can vote out the RINO’s and DemoCrits, but we still need someone to lead the charge.

And, herein lies the rub. Who deserves our support. Maybe the question is whom all does NOT deserve our support. Maybe this process of elimination begins with looking at where we need to go and who can lead us there.

See if we can agree:

1. The United States MUST become a nation that exports more than it imports but not by reducing everyone’s standard of living to make us competitive. Simply put, we’ve got to get government out of the way (along with its mountain of regulations that have killed US industries) and let the entrepreneurs do what they do best.

2. The United States MUST decrease the size of its government and allow its citizens to become self-reliant, instead of encouraging more and more of them to become parasites on the necks of the producers.

3. We MUST have a balanced budget Amendment to the Constitution, to keep the mistakes of the past from being repeated again in the future.

4. We MUST simplify the tax code and get rid of the 100,000 bureaucrats currently employed by the IRS. The best way to do this is to implement a natiional sales tax, consumption tax, or fair tax–whatever you want to call it–and set the rate at 17.5%, with a requirement for a 3/4 majority in both houses of Congress before it can be increased.

5. We MUST have an independent audit (with bipartisan oversight) of every Department, Agency, bureau, and office of Federal government, to determine where the waste, fraud, and abuse are occurring, and those found guilty of such improprieties MUST go to jail for their malfeasance. Further, each division of Federal government found by the audit to NOT be fulfilling its mission MUST be either dissolved or redefined with a mission that can be attained.

6. We MUST secure our borders AND we MUST deport ALL criminal aliens. The 14th Amendment MUST be updated to include language that addresses anchor babies.

This is not “all” of the needed solutions but it’s a good start, I think.

So, who is going to get this job done? Where the Republican contenders are concerned, I’m sadly not “in love” with any of the current flock of pretenders to the Oval Office but one guy who keeps getting my attention is Joh Huntsman Jr.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700104972/Huntsman-paves-way-for-presidential-bid.html

Maybe he’s not perfect, but he’s better than most.