Look out Rightys! Here come the immigrants and they’re all Democrats and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it! YAHOOO!

Bush is an Idiot, Compassionate Conservative. (what the hell is that!) At total progressive. Remember “New World Order” anyone? And a terrible president that got us in this mess in the middle east. (his father had the smarts to get in, do the job and get out) He also started the stimulus B. S…. Jeez. I could go on and on. Ya, and the TEA party also thinks he a turncoat on immigration……

“it was not, she added, a symptom of personal feelings about foreigners. ”

What a bunch of malarkey. It’s nativist, nationalistic (racist in some quarters) and xenophobic ethos fueling these feelings. Even people like Gingrich who have rather rational and amenable viewpoints on immigration are attacked as “open border” wishy-washy miscreants. George W. Bush is absolutely right and so is his brother Jeb.

Jack Burns said:
Bush is an Idiot, Compassionate Conservative. (what the hell is that!) At total progressive. Remember “New World Order” anyone? And a terrible president that got us in this mess in the middle east. (his father had the smarts to get in, do the job and get out) He also started the stimulus B. S…. Jeez. I could go on and on. Ya, and the TEA party also thinks he a turncoat on immigration……

Yeah right, where were you teabags for the last 8 years when bush spent more money than a coked out Paris Hilton on Rodeo. All of a sudden the black buy with the Muslim name got in there and you guys started having Tea Parties talking about “wanting your country back”. Back from what?

Color Me Badd said:
Yeah right, where were you teabags for the last 8 years when bush spent more money than a coked out Paris Hilton on Rodeo. All of a sudden the black buy with the Muslim name got in there and you guys started having Tea Parties talking about “wanting your country back”. Back from what?

Projecting your own hang ups on race isn’t a nice thing to do. Try some diversity classes.

You can always count on Fox to completely ignore the news cycle (i.e. Egypt) and ramble on about some useless, inane topic like this.

Color Me Badd said:
Yeah right, where were you teabags for the last 8 years when bush spent more money than a coked out Paris Hilton on Rodeo. All of a sudden the black buy with the Muslim name got in there and you guys started having Tea Parties talking about “wanting your country back”. Back from what?

Come to think of it where were you bleeding hearts when Bush was pushing his amnesty, tripling aid to Africa, or signing a 400 billion medicare bill?

That’s what I thought. You must be in the same hiding place as the war protesters.

Gasket said:
“it was not, she added, a symptom of personal feelings about foreigners. ”

What a bunch of malarkey. It’s nativist, nationalistic (racist in some quarters) and xenophobic ethos fueling these feelings. Even people like Gingrich who have rather rational and amenable viewpoints on immigration are attacked as “open border” wishy-washy miscreants. George W. Bush is absolutely right and so is his brother Jeb.

When the Bushes are being lauded by lefties, one need not wonder why the tea partiers would like to transition beyond their years of their influence and strike a new path.

The reality is Bu$h and Obama are pretty much the same.
-Open Borders
-Huge Spenders
-War Mongers
-Former coke heads
-Both signed a Patriot Act as President
-Both trample on individual liberty
-Both big government politicians
-Hell even Bu$h, like the left, claims “racism” against those in the US that believe maybe we should enforce our laws against businesses that hire illegals as well as securing our borders.

When are we going to wake up and realize that these two parties are virtually the same.

Color Me Badd said:
All of a sudden the black buy with the Muslim name got in there

Wow, what a racist pos. And of course, the fact that 90% plus of blacks voted for Obama had nothing to do with the fact that he’s black, they just voted that way because Obama is the most awesome dude ever, and they all saw that, as opposed to roughly almost half of everyone else.

Voting for a guy based only on race is just as racist as someone voting against someone based only on race. Deal with it homes, you’re a racist asshole. Anyone who starts the race card whine about Obama being black is a racist asshole.

wasjustsayin said:
You can always count on Fox to completely ignore the news cycle (i.e. Egypt) and ramble on about some useless, inane topic like this.

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You sure picked a foolish place to make your very foolish claim.

Might I suggest that you peruse the articles here at Mediaite and read all those with Mathews, Maddow or Schultz in the titles for information that you are sorely in need of.

turk281 said:
You must be in the same hiding place as the war protesters.

LOL…good point. Since Obama’$ been President I haven’t seen those mass protest against war. Oh…I forgot, when Democratic Presidents wage war it’s just fine and dandy.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Wow, what a racist pos. And of course, the fact that 90% plus of blacks voted for Obama had nothing to do with the fact that he’s black, they just voted that way because Obama is the most awesome dude ever, and they all saw that, as opposed to roughly almost half of everyone else.

Voting for a guy based only on race is just as racist as someone voting against someone based only on race. Deal with it homes, you’re a racist asshole. Anyone who starts the race card whine about Obama being black is a racist asshole.

So…by your example then the Tea Party (99% white) is racist then too?

kvon said:
So…by your example then the Tea Party (99% white) is racist then too?

Nice try chump. But race had nothing to do with the candidates supported by the tea party people. In fact, the reverse of your comment is true, the fact that most blacks avoid the tea party is because they see the tea party people vehemently opposing their race choice, Obama. So, how does it feel to be a mentally retarded asshole?

grafxmail7 said:
Look out Rightys! Here come the immigrants and they’re all Democrats and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it! YAHOOO!

Can you say, GERRYMAND?
heh-heh

Bush gets it right – too late. The Tea Party would have happily turned away the St. Louis.

turk281 said:
Come to think of it where were you bleeding hearts when Bush was pushing his amnesty, tripling aid to Africa, or signing a 400 billion medicare bill?

That’s what I thought. You must be in the same hiding place as the war protesters.

You are hilarious, some of us were wondering why the Republicans were passing the largest unfunded entitlement program in the history of our country. What a liberal.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Wow, what a racist pos. And of course, the fact that 90% plus of blacks voted for Obama had nothing to do with the fact that he’s black, they just voted that way because Obama is the most awesome dude ever, and they all saw that, as opposed to roughly almost half of everyone else.

Voting for a guy based only on race is just as racist as someone voting against someone based only on race. Deal with it homes, you’re a racist asshole. Anyone who starts the race card whine about Obama being black is a racist asshole.

You still don’t scare me with your ad hominem attacks and your gun imagery.

kvon said:
So…by your example then the Tea Party (99% white) is racist then too?

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PERHAPS your point would be valid if it were based on an even in the ballpark assumption. Alas, you are off by 20%. The Tea Party is 79% white::

“In several other respects, however — their age, educational background, employment status, and race — Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large.”

The Tea Party is 79% white as opposed to 75% white in the overall population.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/tea-partiers-fairly-mainstream-demographics.aspx

Grammie said:
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You sure picked a foolish place to make your very foolish claim.

Might I suggest that you peruse the articles here at Mediaite and read all those with Mathews, Maddow or Schultz in the titles for information that you are sorely in need of.

You’d think that for a channel that has the word “NEWS” in its name would cover the news, don’t ya think? Especially during its most valuable/watched time period?

Nah…too much to ask from them.

But thanks for not refuting my claim that Fox is wasting time covering this non-story.

Bill Adkins said:
Bush gets it right – too late. The Tea Party would have happily turned away the St. Louis.

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I do think that that shameful event was the work of FDR’s anti-semitic appointees.

Grammie said:
.I do think that that shameful event was the work of FDR’s anti-semitic appointees.

Might have been — but it doesn’t negate my statement – the Tea Party would have been right there applauding.

@ justsayin

What percentage of tonight’s program was on “non-Egypt” content? What percentage do you think it should have been?

And if you’re not really sure, don’t you think you should… before you make statements about how much coverage was given?

Bill Adkins said:
Might have been — but it doesn’t negate my statement – the Tea Party would have been right there applauding.

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And you know this how………..?

I’m a bit leery of putting any faith in someone who claims the miraculous power of seeing into the hearts and minds of millions as you claim to do. Not only can you do that but you even know what they would have done 70 years ago. What is your stage name, The Amazing what?

turk281 said:
Come to think of it where were you bleeding hearts when Bush was pushing his amnesty, tripling aid to Africa, or signing a 400 billion medicare bill?

That’s what I thought. You must be in the same hiding place as the war protesters.

Gave Bush 100 thumbs up for his work with AIDS prevention/funding in Africa. He has very high approval (to this day) in Africa for that.

Grammie said:
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You sure picked a foolish place to make your very foolish claim.

Might I suggest that you peruse the articles here at Mediaite and read all those with Mathews, Maddow or Schultz in the titles for information that you are sorely in need of.

He was referring to the TPM (today) on the most watched show on Fox. I doubt Bush’s several day old statements should be the #1 story of the day. Do you?

Mr.Papshmer said:
Wow, what a racist pos. And of course, the fact that 90% plus of blacks voted for Obama had nothing to do with the fact that he’s black, they just voted that way because Obama is the most awesome dude ever, and they all saw that, as opposed to roughly almost half of everyone else.

Voting for a guy based only on race is just as racist as someone voting against someone based only on race. Deal with it homes, you’re a racist asshole. Anyone who starts the race card whine about Obama being black is a racist asshole.

Your premise would be right if blacks didn’t also vote 90% for a white candidate like they did for Gore in 2000 and 88% for Kerry in 2004. Turns out…they do. AA tend to vote overwhelmingly for Democratic candidates. http://iamsaam.org/userimages/BlackVote.pdf Simultaneity =/= Causality. Nice race card pulling though. Obama’s candidacy boosted black voting overall by only 2% by the way and he got 5-6% more than Gore. Expected for a historic candidacy, but not exactly earth shattering to suggest blatant RACISM. It’s a tired argument.

Paleoconservatarian said:
When the Bushes are being lauded by lefties, one need not wonder why the tea partiers would like to transition beyond their years of their influence and strike a new path.

Yes, a path to regional isolationism using your purism doctrine.

Color Me Badd said:
You are hilarious, some of us were wondering why the Republicans were passing the largest unfunded entitlement program in the history of our country. What a liberal.

Cool! I suppose we have a lot in common!

I suppose you’re a member of the libertarian CATO institute, who offered the best arguments against said unfunded entitlement.

They also offered the best, most detailed argument against the Iraq war and PATRIOT act, as liberals like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and almost every other Democrat rushed to get their names attached.

You’re so right, liberals are cowards.

Gasket said:
Your premise would be right if blacks didn’t also vote 90% for a white candidate like they did for Gore in 2000 and 88% for Kerry in 2004.

So what you’re saying is that they vote for whoever they think will take stuff from guys like me and give it to them… Interesting.

Mr.Papshmer said:
So what you’re saying is that they vote for whoever they think will take stuff from guys like me and give it to them… Interesting.

No. I’m saying you are wrong for inferring that blacks are racist for voting overwhelmingly for Obama, a bi-racial person. .

Color Me Badd said:
Yeah right, where were you teabags for the last 8 years when bush spent more money than a coked out Paris Hilton on Rodeo. All of a sudden the black buy with the Muslim name got in there and you guys started having Tea Parties talking about “wanting your country back”. Back from what?

Wow! You have issues! LOL

Rightys! It’s coming down the road and it doesn’t matter if it happens this year or in 10 years, it’s going to happen. Just like when Reagan did it, it’s going to happen again. All those immigrants that are here are going to get amnesty! And they’re all going to be Democrats! Don’t you just like the sound that?!
I just love to think about how you guys are just losing it at even the thought of it. It’s like a cartoon where steam blows out the character’s ears!
So Rightys, freak out all you want Stomp your feet and hold your breath. Smash things. Rip things up. Do whatever you need to do to get your tea party on. But just realize at the end of the day all those people are going to be citizens and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.
Hooray for the USA!

I can understand why George Bush has a problem with the tea party.

Right now the tea party is a good thing for the GOP. They have managed to channel the anger and frustration at the state of the economy and use it to win big. But the flames of anger are being fanned a little too hard by Fox News and prominent media conservatives.

One could argue that the tea party had it’s roots in the left wing fringe. With the 9/11 conspiracy theorists. If you go back in time through the power of Google and look up articles on 9/11 Conspiracy theories and War for Oil pages; the arguments presented their are very similar to what you hear from people like Beck and Orley Taitz.

This anti Government sentiment was largely ignored as a radical fringe during the Bush years, and during the presidential race of 2008 this mistrust of power and government resulted in those same people labeling Obama and the Democrats as another side of the same evil coin.

Then Obama wins, the Republican party is in shambles, and it needs something to latch onto. The anti Government Tea Party seems to be the best group to latch onto. They blow it up. Give it media attention. Suddenly disillusioned social conservatives, libertarians, hardcore Republicans and yes… racists all get thrown into the mix even though they have little in common.

The Tea Party express has used the tea party brand to successfully channel that anger into votes. But look at Clay Duke, and Jared Laughner…Republicans hope that the tea party will “go away” after they are back in power but there are people out there who want a full scale revolution and although the Republicans think they can keep riling up these people and giving them a national forum through Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and Limbaugh; this anger they are creating and fostering and nurturing is not going to go away anytime soon. Even with a Republican president in the white house. They may not get the media attention they get now, but they will be out there. And angry. And Republicans will have their own blood on their hands for riling up and giving such a massive forum to what could have been just a fringe group of conspiracy nuts.

MariahintheMiddle said:
This anti Government sentiment was largely ignored as a radical fringe during the Bush years, and during the presidential race of 2008 this mistrust of power and government resulted in those same people labeling Obama and the Democrats as another side of the same evil coin.
Then Obama wins, the Republican party is in shambles, and it needs something to latch onto. The anti Government Tea Party seems to be the best group to latch onto.

It’s not “anti-government.’

It’s anti-government-abuses.

MariahintheMiddle said:
I can understand why George Bush has a problem with the tea party

Yeah, so can anyone. The Tea Party movement is disgusted by that jerk establishment sellout, peddling small government rhetoric and expanding government more and destroying liberty than anyone since FDR.

Jack Burns said:
Wow! You have issues! LOL

Remember George Costanza’s father? Talk about issues! Every TV Guide since 1954!

Grammie said:
wasjustsayin said:
You can always count on Fox to completely ignore the news cycle (i.e. Egypt) and ramble on about some useless, inane topic like this.
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You sure picked a foolish place to make your very foolish claim.
Might I suggest that you peruse the articles here at Mediaite and read all those with Mathews, Maddow or Schultz in the titles for information that you are sorely in need of.

It is the very rambling which draws Ms. Hawkins to FOX “News”.

Laura Ingraham makes a valid point because we are a nation who believe in rule of law, not rule of man which this country is turning into unfortunately. rule of law cannot manipulate what the law should be, rule of man can be manipulate by a person on what he deems the law should be fit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_man

Drew said:
Laura Ingraham makes a valid point because we are a nation who believe in rule of law, not rule of man which this country is turning into unfortunately. rule of law cannot manipulate what the law should be, rule of man can be manipulate by a person on what he deems the law should be fit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_man

The law of reality is what matters.
The law of reality is where we’re at.
And reality says that the immigrants that are here aren’t going anywhere. They’re here and they will be citizens. Learn it. Love it. Live it.
The sooner you accept that fact the sooner the country moves in a positive direction.

Just_MC said:
Yeah, so can anyone. The Tea Party movement is disgusted by that jerk establishment sellout, peddling small government rhetoric and expanding government more and destroying liberty than anyone since FDR.

Yeah, FDR destroyed liberty.
What do you base this laughable opinion on?
Did you just come up with a reality that you want to live in and then rewrite history to fit what you want to believe?

Grammie said:
.And you know this how………..? I’m a bit leery of putting any faith in someone who claims the miraculous power of seeing into the hearts and minds of millions as you claim to do. Not only can you do that but you even know what they would have done 70 years ago. What is your stage name, The Amazing what?

I am Amazing – but I don’t have to be amazing to have a grasp on reality. Look around at what the Tea Party is advocating in sending these people back to poverty, drug violence, etc. They do it today, they’d do it then without hesitation. Hypocrisy – a primary characterisitic of the Tea Party along with confusion.

Ingraham doesn’t seem to grasp the fundamental point of the issue which is the hypocrisy of so many descendants of immigrants who love to brag about their immigrant forebearers and attack those that come here today for the same reasons. They aren’t afraid of Mexico, they fear Mexicans who come for the same reasons their ancestors did. Their beef isn’t with the brown nations from the south, but with the brown people from the south. They argue policy but their targets are human beings and their linguistic contortions cannot change or excuse the blatant racism in their arguments.

grafxmail7 said:
Yeah, FDR destroyed liberty.What do you base this laughable opinion on?Did you just come up with a reality that you want to live in and then rewrite history to fit what you want to believe?

FDR – the single greatest president this nation ever had. One of the biggest reasons we’re in the mess we’re in today is that the Republicans culminated 8 decades of attacking FDR’s legacy with the Contract on America and Goober W. Bush’s worst administration in history. Bush said he’d turn America around and the Tea Party is on a mission to take the nation back — so far they’ve gotten us to about 1931.

Jeb is positioning for a three peat, and the Bush family, along with the old moderate republican guard, are going to try to take the GOP away from the tea party.

We all know how George would have done anything to get the Spanish votes. we con’t need another compassionate conservative like his brother Jeb. . Maybe you can even pull a compassionate conservative thing like George did with Scooter Libby and crucify one of your own. Hows George sleep at night for what he did to Randy Ertman and letting the murderer get away to keep his Spanish voter happy. So long as it’s not your daughters , stay retired I prefer Sarah over your ilk any day. Tell Mommy I said that too.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300686,00.html
The father of a 14-year-old Texas girl who was raped, sodomized and then strangled with a belt and shoe laces, wants to know why President Bush supports halting the execution of the Mexican national who confessed to killing his daughter and her friend.
“Our daughters are just pawns in a game that we have no control over,” Randy Ertman, father of Jennifer Ertman, told FOX News. “What can I say to the president of the United States or the Supreme Court that would make any difference?”

Joe Astroturf said:
We all know how George would have done anything to get the Spanish votes. we con’t need another compassionate conservative like his brother Jeb. . Maybe you can even pull a compassionate conservative thing like George did with Scooter Libby and crucify one of your own. Hows George sleep at night for what he did to Randy Ertman and letting the murderer get away to keep his Spanish voter happy. So long as it’s not your daughters , stay retired I prefer Sarah over your ilk any day. Tell Mommy I said that too.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300686,00.htmlThe father of a 14-year-old Texas girl who was raped, sodomized and then strangled with a belt and shoe laces, wants to know why President Bush supports halting the execution of the Mexican national who confessed to killing his daughter and her friend.“Our daughters are just pawns in a game that we have no control over,” Randy Ertman, father of Jennifer Ertman, told FOX News. “What can I say to the president of the United States or the Supreme Court that would make any difference?”

Maybe you could begin your voyage to rationality by recognizing an entire people, in this case Mexicans, are not accountable for the crimes of one person. That kind of insanity leads to events like genocide, at least to institutionalized discrimination. But your kind of rhetoric is of the Lou Dobbs/O’Reilly/Julius Streicher variety and of so many adjectives I might use, the list begins with hate, bigotry, stupidity and – did I say hate?

valkyrie101 said:
Jeb is positioning for a three peat, and the Bush family, along with the old moderate republican guard, are going to try to take the GOP away from the tea party.

If they succeed, there will be a third party in 2012, but cerainly by 2016. Who wins in that.? I think the donkey boys.

grafxmail7 says:
“Yeah, FDR destroyed liberty. What do you base this laughable opinion on?”

Well how about for starters he imprisoned thousands of Japanese -Americans without due process. This was immoral and a clear violation of the 5th Amendment.

More Liberty3 said:
grafxmail7 says:
“Yeah, FDR destroyed liberty. What do you base this laughable opinion on?”

Well how about for starters he imprisoned thousands of Japanese -Americans without due process. This was immoral and a clear violation of the 5th Amendment.

Then there was that time he confiscated just about all the gold.

grafxmail7 said:
The law of reality is what matters.The law of reality is where we’re at.And reality says that the immigrants that are here aren’t going anywhere. They’re here and they will be citizens. Learn it. Love it. Live it.The sooner you accept that fact the sooner the country moves in a positive direction.

Wars get started by people like you.

More Liberty3 said:
grafxmail7 says:“Yeah, FDR destroyed liberty. What do you base this laughable opinion on?” Well how about for starters he imprisoned thousands of Japanese -Americans without due process. This was immoral and a clear violation of the 5th Amendment.

No one said he was flawless – but, hey, leading the nation to overcome the Great Depression and victory in World War II – counts for a hell of a lot in a nation that still had Jim Crow, segregated armed forces and wasn’t so keen on Jews. It’s not like he lead the nation into a war on false pretenses, bungled two conflicts, left Hitler alive for a decade after attacking the US, and delivered economic catastrophe like Goober W. and the Republicans did Osama and Afghanistan and Iraq and the crash 0f 2008 – (btw, that’s the short list – there’s a hell of a lot more, i.e., Goober and company added $6.5 trillion to the national debt).

If the secret service can protect the White House, then why is it politically incorrect to protect the border? Is Obama more important than the country? He is not the King in Chief, you know.

Mi casa no es su casa: Why libertarians are wrong on illegal immigration.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/2011/01/mi-casa-no-es-su-casa-why-libertarians.html

Bill Adkins said: “No one said he was flawless”

A flaw? You claim that throwing thousands of Japanese-Americans into prison camps without due process a mere “flaw?” I call that high crimes, and possibly crimes against humanity, not to mention a clear violation of the 5th Amendment.

Trust me I am no fan of Bu$h or Obama but you are clearly a simple partisan. Both these fools are war mongers (chicken-hawks), and debt spend-aholics.

I’m glad you mentioned the debt.
From 2001 to 2009 our national debt rose from:
$5.7 trillion to $10.4 trillion. That’s an increase of $4.7 trillion, and a down right crime if you ask me.

You idiot President has increased the debt from $10.4 trillion to $13.9 trillion. That’s an increase of $3.5 trillion in just two years.

More BS Obama and Bu$h have in common:
-Both signed a Patriot Act as President.
-Both have Gitmo open
-Both have increased the size of government
-Both have huge deficits, although Obama has the largest deficit in the history of our nation.
-Both bow/hold-hands with ruthless Dictators from Saudi Arabia
-Both have sent young men off to die in wars we have no business fighting.
-Both consistently violate the US Constitution and walk all over individual liberty.

So you can take your partisan self back to Kentucky.

More Liberty3 said:

You idiot President has increased the debt from $10.4 trillion to $13.9 trillion. That’s an increase of $3.5 trillion in just two years.

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Always with the selective math.
Why do you guys pull these figures out while ignoring the stuff that wasn’t accounted for under Bush.
You can’t just debate with the selective facts that you chose to use.

Oh yeah, and don’t forget that the economy crashed under Bush as well. You guys like to conveniently forget about that fact as well.

grafxmail7 said:
Always with the selective math.Why do you guys pull these figures out while ignoring the stuff that wasn’t accounted for under Bush.You can’t just debate with the selective facts that you chose to use. Oh yeah, and don’t forget that the economy crashed under Bush as well. You guys like to conveniently forget about that fact as well.

How about you furnish your version of the math rather than just accusing someone else of selective math?

Just_MC said:
How about you furnish your version of the math rather than just accusing someone else of selective math?

You’d have a point if you had a point , dumba$$. National debt on 1/20/2001 = 5,727,776,738,304.64, national debt on 1/20/2009 = 10,626,877,048,913.08

Bill Adkins said:
You’d have a point if you had a point , dumba$$. National debt on 1/20/2001 = 5,727,776,738,304.64, national debt on 1/20/2009 = 10,626,877,048,913.08

Didn’t mean to submit – and to finsh my point : National debt on 9/30/2009, the last day of FY 2009=11,909,829,003,511.75. Add to that the FY 2001 budget surplus Goober burned through and you can take all $6.5 trillion added by Goober W. Bush and stick them up your ample a$$. Selective math? Must mean any math you’re too stupid to comprehend.

And the rightwingers want to balance the budget on the backs of the middleclass and the poor. What they want is an Oligarchy. A few rich and many poor. Can you say french revolution?