Jeffress tried to attack Romney without really attacking him. It failed, obviously, because the Perry camp denounced him.

Mormons may not make up a sizable contingent of the GOP but most Mormons are GOP. They also have many non-Mormon friends who know of their Christ-like character.

Mormons are known for their honesty . Howard Hughes would only have Mormons handling his money . Salt Lake City is one of the safest places in the world .

Mitt has a clean background , unlike soon to be former President Obama . The haters and and the nasties will attack religion since they don’t have much else .

Obama has been a colossal failure and the next President will have a massive cleanup job to get this country back on track and respected once again around the world .

If Michelle-In-Utah has a Christ-like character than I am real glad I am no Christ-like person.  I don’t know any mormons personally to and have nothing against ANY religion as long as they don’t push it on me.  However, if her behavior on here is any example the mormons are in big trouble.  I have never read a positive word from her about anything. 

Says the guy who is going to base his campaign on covert appeals to nationalism and the notion that the President isn’t nearly the nationalist that Romney is. Yeah, okay.

Ahh yes, anti-mormon bigotry.. It’s not just for liberals anymore.

Mitt has a clean background , unlike soon to be former President Obama .
The haters and and the nasties will attack religion since they don’t
have much else .

Yes. Go ahead and explain to us “Romneycare” and the stupid gNOpigs claiming President Obama is not a “real” Christian, see Pastor Jeffress on the other thread.

If Perry can’t first formulate and then utter a coherent response in real-time, no amount of Romney bashing will  save his floundering candidacy.    

Way to feed the media circus though, Camp Rick.

Umm…  I’m pretty sure that poisonous language is the foundation of your cause.

Mitt has changed almost every position he has ever held to trick people into supporting him.  How you see honesty in that, I don’t know.

I agree, Michelle is so filled with hate for the President.  If that is being religious, not to root for America, but just to have your goal be defeating President Obama, then count me out of that religion…..I don’t believe I have ever seen a positive remark unless it is cheering on something horrible that was said about the President…

I agree, Michelle is so filled with hate for the President.  If that is being religious, not to root for America, but just to have your goal be defeating President Obama, then count me out of that religion…..I don’t believe I have ever seen a positive remark unless it is cheering on something horrible that was said about the President…

Absolutely true. She is always negative. Never makes any effort to turn things around and make a positive argument. I am taught by my Church that Mormonism is not Christian. I believe the Church’s teachings. Across the board, Mainline Christian faiths teach Mormonism is not Christian. Also across the Board, Mainline Christian churches do not recognize Mormon baptism. A convert from Lutheranism to Catholicism does not have to be rebaptized. A convert from Mormnism to Catholicism does. Baptism is the Christian initiation rite. I recognize that Mormonism is a legitimate religion, although one which enshrines “not” and seldom uses “shall”. It is just not a Christian religion. There is an abhorrence to the lie that Morminism is Christian that gives Mormons a mindset, a prickliness, a defensiveness which tends to give Mormons a hegative outlook.

That is important to remember. These incidents desribed are purely, 100% Conservative/Republican. And, it was just a question of time before they were going to hit.

Not an issue he hasn’t changed his mind about!

Known for honesty. They have institutionalized dishonesty. The re-revelation regarding bigomy. Right. They needed welfare from the US to fight the Indians and to gain statehood. Nothing about faith there. They have lied about Mountain Meadow and institutionalized it to the point a Mormon speaking the truth about it can be ex-communicated. Get real. You can find value in Mormonism. You can find problems with all churches. You can’t say Mormonism is honest however.

Gossip meeting and I wasn’t invited?

Honest people don’t flip their position on issues simply because they want to increase their chances of getting elected. 

Poisonous language doesn’t advance your causes, unless of course you are questioning Obama’s faith, his love of country, and his place of birth. Every time Mitt says at debates “we need a president who loves this country,” he is deliberately trying to appeal to the same people who now question his Mormon faith.

If a republican makes it to the WH in 2012 he f–king perfect.  After three years of pure hate it will be our turn to criticize.

I don’t think people realize how much they say about themselves when they post.  Yes, it is anonymous but you can’t hide “who” you really are as a person. 

Just wait and see how bad it gets if Mitt is the nominee.  Maybe they will leave Obama alone for a while.  Ahhh probably not.

Robert ( aka Sharpo , LLoyd C , Ted, ProObamaAgenda, Call Me Ishmael ,RRK, Garth , America Sucks , and too many to name , including some very recent ones ) pretends to be religious , while bashing others , but never Islam .

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   Please nominate Mitt Romney. Half the evangelicals wrongly believe he is in a cult and they are reliable GOP voters. So they stay home and because of their ignorance Obama gets a second term, hee hee!

Yawn

Double yawn

Yeah, when she is attacked she should just sit back and take it.  Sorry, I don’t claim to be perfectly Christ-like, but if you think I will sit back while I am viciously attacked day after day sweetie, you’re wrong.   Now you have a GREAT day!

And you Royal Dimwit are a piece of work.  As you will recall, I called a truce with you and was perfectly nice to you until I couldn’t handle your constant degrading of me and my religion and ended the truce.  You need to take a good long look at yourself.

You are one sick shrew , Robert ( LLoyd C, Sharpo,etc.)

You are one sick shrew , Robert ( LLoyd C, Sharpo,etc.)

Michelle you are so bizarre and confused … Besides his religion and that he’s not Obama what is it exactly that you like about Mitt??  You spend your days on hear bashing liberals and speaking of your so called “values”… The only values that Mitt and you share if I’m to believe your daily rants is religious values… He is not conservative ..He couldn’t  care any less about he tea party.. He was pro life up until he wanted to make a serious run for president.. Romney care is one of his biggest achievements… I get it you hate Obama ..But then to LOVE Mitt just doesn’t jive.. Do you see how much of a fraud you are Michelle??

I wonder if he has to take a shower after a public event.

too much valium today

Don’t take drugs, Robert .

Sorry, Mitt, but Mormonism is a cult and Joseph Smith was a charlatan and a false prophet–even dumb Neo-Cons can see through your false religion.

We all know thats not true. and the only poisonous rhetoric comes from the mormon god who hated blacks till 78 then changed his mind because he thought he might need to garner votes and ca$h from that voting block for lds/presidential nominees

So mitt the mormon isnt running as a mormon but were supposed to look at mitt’s “clean background” (as viewed through the prism that mormonism isa decent religion). Does that clean background include mitt the mormons arrest record!

lds/romney for president 2012

why is everyone who doesnt support the closeted democrat mitt the mormon a democrat? the only people who support mitt the mormon are liberals! mitt is NOT conservative!

you also do posthumous baptisms of the dead to convert all people to mormonism against their will.

Sick!

We have your card sweetie! dont make me play it!

lds/romney for president – 2012

why is it bigotry that Republicans do NOT support a closeted Democrat with a weird religion that believed god hated blacks till 78 then he changed his mind so he could garner votes and ca$h for lds presidential candidates!

thats not bigotry, thats fact!

I think not. if mitt the mormon is nominated Conservatives will not support him. it is NOT because they are liberal or bigoted it is because mitt the mormon is a closrt democrat.

there you go, again! when in doubt recruit! 

We shouldnt drink tea or coffee either, right!

we should ask mitt the mormon about polygamy and his grandfather and posthumous baptisms.

Non-substantive.

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I thought you couldn’t, ever,…….. never blame the former President for their documented factual numbers! How will that work?

How Republicons look at Mitt:

The Good… Mitt is old and white, just like most members of the Republicon Party!!

The Bad…   Mitt has supported rights for women to have abortions and created the blueprint or ObamaCare!!

The Ugly…  Mitt is a Mormon and feel he’s a member of a cult!!

I can’t defend her–she’s capable and I’m not inclined.  I have seen the pope give people a poor impression  of Catholicism, as well.  It’s never wise to judge a whole group based on the actions of one person.  Let’s just say that’s an idea that was’nt embraced by ”M” when I stated it.

Name 1 messiah that wasn’t a charlatan. It goes with the territory.

I’ve never heard him say that, Pinocchio.

It’s all dogma.  You have to learn to think for yourself.

Guys, I grew up Southern Baptist in North Carolina, land of tobacco, firearms and racing.  Still chuckle and enjoy watching Ernest Angley, Hagee and the gang.  But facts are facts, the Mormons do have a superior religion evidently.  Look at the fine stock of people they are producing.  Christians are foul mouthed, smoking, drinking, lying, hypocrites.  I still am loyal to my fellow Baptists and am supporting Romney for President.  It’s just a no-brainer to any thinking person.  God favors the most capable, not the guy with the right label.

What reality to you live in???  Mormons are quite the opposite and Salt Lake City is nothing like what you just described.  But no cultist ever admits to being a cultist.  To all the Christians out there who are confused to as why Mormonism is a cult and is not a religion or Christian…here’s a clue A cult is any group regardless of its size that interprets the doctrines of a religion in an unorthodox fashion.  If the Christians out there really want to be ambivalent to the matter of why Mormonism is a cult and is not Christian then I’ll skip straight to the heart of the matter.  Christianity is monotheistic and mormonism is polytheistic as it has many many gods and teaches that you too will one day be a good if you put common sense aside and conduct yourself like a mormon.  Also…the god of mormonism was once a physical man who attained godhood status.  The Jesus of mormonism was created as a result of a physical sexual relationship between a mormon god and Mary.  Also, this same Jesus of Mormonism is the half brother to Satan.  I could go further as the mormon cult fits all the parameters of a cult and none of the parameters for a religion.  Needless to say….none of these mormon teachings are biblical or Christian.  However, if you really want to compare mormonism to any religion, it is more closely aligned with Islam.  In those 2 faiths, Jesus and the trinity mean absolutely nothing.

To all the Christians and atheists out there who are confused to as why Mormonism is a cult and is not a religion or Christian…here’s a clue A cult is any group regardless of its size that interprets the doctrines of a religion in an unorthodox fashion. If the Christians out there really want to be ambivalent to the matter of why Mormonism is a cult and is not Christian then I’ll skip straight to the heart of the matter. Christianity is monotheistic and mormonism is polytheistic as it has many many gods and teaches that you too will one day be a good if you put common sense aside and conduct yourself like a mormon. Also…the god of mormonism was once a physical man who attained godhood status. The Jesus of mormonism was created as a result of a physical sexual relationship between a mormon god and Mary. Also, this same Jesus of Mormonism is the half brother to Satan. I could go further as the mormon cult fits all the parameters of a cult and none of the parameters for a religion. Needless to say….none of these mormon teachings are biblical or Christian. However, if you really want to compare mormonism to any religion, it is more closely aligned with Islam. In those 2 faiths, Jesus and the trinity mean absolutely nothing.

Nice!!!!!

He’s a white boy……he’s a white boy!!!!!!

To the brothas on the street he’s just another honkey…

Now here is someone who knows the truth and is not afraid to speak the truth.  To all the Christians out there who are confused to as why Mormonism is a cult and is not a religion or Christian…here’s a clue A cult is any group regardless of its size that interprets the doctrines of a religion in an unorthodox fashion. If the Christians out there really want to be ambivalent to the matter of why Mormonism is a cult and is not Christian then I’ll skip straight to the heart of the matter. Christianity is monotheistic and mormonism is polytheistic as it has many many gods and teaches that you too will one day be a good if you put common sense aside and conduct yourself like a mormon. Also…the god of mormonism was once a physical man who attained godhood status. The Jesus of mormonism was created as a result of a physical sexual relationship between a mormon god and Mary. Also, this same Jesus of Mormonism is the half brother to Satan. I could go further as the mormon cult fits all the parameters of a cult and none of the parameters for a religion. Needless to say….none of these mormon teachings are biblical or Christian. However, if you really want to compare mormonism to any religion, it is more closely aligned with Islam. In those 2 faiths, Jesus and the trinity mean absolutely nothing.

      Thank you Agent of Tuthiness! I hope there are many millions of people like you out there and I hope that Mitt gets the nomination and you all throw your Bibles at his head injuring him fatally thus smoothing the way for racist Rick! 

I’m not a Mormon or anything, but your definition of “cult” isn’t correct.  Whether or not a group is a cult has nothing to do with whether they interpret doctrine in an unorthodox fashion.  ”Orthodox” is relative, anyways–what is “unorthodox” to Lutherans might not be so to Baptists or Catholics, Methodists, etc, etc, and vice versa.  The definition of “cult” has always been a bit vague (i.e. most official definitions could include most religions, in one way or another), but it’s usually really more about power structures within a group and how they affect and control thoughts and actions. 

I do think Mormonism was a cult at one time, but now days I don’t think it is.  It’s become too large.  I do think there are cult groups within Mormonism, and there are cult-like practices which the church engages in, but that’s true of any religion (i.e. there are cult like sub groups within protestantism as well).

Yeah, but of the options Romney is the ONLY candidate who has a chance of beating Obama.  No one else has a prayer.

So the GOP has to weigh their dislike of Obama against their dislike of Romney and decide which they would rather have for 4 more years. 

But in fairness, that’s like 99% of the comments on this site.  It’s mostly all people saying awful, stupid, partisan things and then cheering each other on–conservative or liberal.  She can’t be any worse than most of the comments I read on here.

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I know Mitt Romney and the media want to characterize Dr Jeffress as an unmitigated bigot, but he is doctrinally correct and merely articulating the opinions formally expressed by, so far as I know, all of the mainstream Christian Churches, that Mormon doctrine does not fit inside the Christian orthodoxy.  In my search of Internet references I found denunciations of Mormons as non-Christians and/or cults by official organs of Catholic, Methodist, Baptist and Lutheran Churches.  The main problem is that Christian churches believe that there are no prophets or revelation after Christ, and Mormons believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet and his scripture is superior to the Bible.  The disagreements simply cannot be reconciled.

There’s a little hair splitting on the definition of a cult.  By Pastor Jeffress own definition, he is not a Christian and he himself belongs to a cult.  He suggested that Mormonism is a cult and unchristian because it was founded by Joseph Smith, not Jesus Christ.  Pastor Jeffress needs to read the history of his own church which he can find at Wikipedia “Historians trace the earliest Baptist church back to 1609 in Amsterdam, with English Separatist John Smyth as its pastor.”

I reject Pastor Jeffress definition of a cult and christian and by so doing allow even himself to be called a Christian.  Does he believe the Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation?  Does he attempt to emulate the teachings of Jesus Christ?  By this definition both Pastor Jeffress and Mormons are Christians, though there individual members (including Pastor Jeffress) will exhibit unchristian behavior from time to time, some more than others.

The number one and number two definitions in Webster can apply to all religions.  And the number 3 definition includes words that are entirely subjective.  So one can easily argue that any religious organization is a cult.  By Webster, church=cult.  So what.  We could go on hair splitting about the definition.
Webster:  Cult:
1)  formal religious veneration2) a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents3) a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents
Back to politics.  I am a Mormon, but not necessarily voting for Romney.  I will certainly not vote for him because he is a Mormon.  He does not have the most conservative track record and I am likely to vote for someone else and not necessarily the other Mormon, Jon Huntsman.  I think any one of the candidates can beat Obama.  I’m going to listen to what they have to say and look at their record.Brad Porter

We believe in one God and we believe in one savior Jesus Christ. I have never been taught anything different from that. I was raised initially the daughter of a Southern Baptist minister, who has always respected the beliefs and rights of one of our country’s basic foundation “Freedom of Religion.”  We might differ in our some of our theology but I know I am a Christian, which is defined in the bible, as believers of Christ. How dare you define me in your terms, should I call other churches cultist and non-christians because they do not carry the name of Christ in their names, we do!

Not true!

Do not believe that the Book of Mormon is superior to the Bible, just another addition to scriptures. Get it right!

This is how most Mormons believe and are encouraged, separate religion from state. 

Where  there are conflicts between the Book of Mormon and the Bible, Mormons attribute the discrepancies to mistranslations of the Bible, and consider the BoM to be corrections of the Bible.  If this is not considering it superior, I don’t know what else to call it.

I don’t mean to butt in because I’ve only just seen the conversation now and read part of it. But I cant help but notice that all I have heard on this board is negativity. From both sides. That’s not a teaching style used by the Savior in any instance. Though I know that Jesus Christ is my Savior and Redeemer and that only threw Him can I return and live with my Heavenly Father and my family again, I also know that nothing I can say on a political message board will every convince you of that. To understand the true doctrine taught by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, just go to mormon.org and see for yourself. Then you must pray and ask God with a sincere heart if it be true. I don’t presume to say what any other person in the world believes. Just as no one in the world can do the same for me. But I know that Jesus is the Christ. That Joseph Smith was and is a prophet of God. And that the Book of Mormon is the word of God, given to the world for the purpose of confounding false doctrines and ending the confusion created by the thousands of interpretations offered by studiers of the Bible. Seek for yourself. Read the Book of Mormon. If you really want to know, you will know.   -David