I don’t blame him for not reading it. That’s REALLY politically incorrect.

One word. Coward.

Hate it when that happens don’t ya? Dumb old truth popping up like that.

And Fox News “lies”. Good job “informing” your audience MSNBC. Their really going to know all the facts now.

what do you expect from a guy MSNBC grabbed off of youtube and has the worst ratigns of anybody in the 5-11pm cable news time slots….even Slobbering fool Mr Tingles has better ratings…. Hey mr young turk you FOX only has almost 5x the viewers in your time slot.. fox dominates you.

That……….. is………… Just…………. Classic!

Just shows how unprofessional he really is in that his show is just thrown together and he never bothered to read the list before going on the air. Pretty funny. No wonder nobody watches msnbc.

Clear proof that the SPLC is a racist institution and it should not be taken seriously by any rational or free thinking person ever again.

Bad move, Cenk. Should’ve read the figures. Then challenged Rep. King to investigate fundamental Christianity, (all those burning crosses), and the militia movements (the swastikas).
Then you might have asked King about NORAID, and his fundraising for the IRA bombers.

Why is Cenk afraid of black people?

Religion of Peace said:
Just shows how unprofessional he really is in that his show is just thrown together and he never bothered to read the list before going on the air. Pretty funny. No wonder nobody watches msnbc.

He just “assumed” the top three were all mean old white men. heh heh heh…

Top notch production crew there!

LOL…that was pretty funny.
Cenk is new and he learned something today.
Always do your homework!

Anyway, the presence of the Black Separatists validates the list.
If it was just a hit job they wouldn’t have been included.

HEY RIGHTIES, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE TOP 5 OUT OF 6!!!

Oh, my, Frances. Be prepared for the lefties who are going to denounce you as a right-winger.

Joseph Glackin said:
Bad move, Cenk. Should’ve read the figures. Then challenged Rep. King to investigate fundamental Christianity, (all those burning crosses), and the militia movements (the swastikas).Then you might have asked King about NORAID, and his fundraising for the IRA bombers.

Did you read what the story was about? Obviously not.

Cenk is a joke. Notice the name of the show is just a generic MSNBC program name. He is not long for his job as I bet MSNBC is actively looking for a qualified person to fill the spot. Cenk’s ratings have just been horrible since replacing Ed and Ed was’nt any better then Cenk.

BFD said:
LOL…that was pretty funny.Cenk is new and he learned something today.Always do your homework! Anyway, the presence of the Black Separatists validates the list.If it was just a hit job they wouldn’t have been included. HEY RIGHTIES, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE TOP 5 OUT OF 6!!!

Nice spin…

Uygur wondered why Rep. King put such an emphasis on Muslim groups when the reality, according to Uygur, was that right-wing hate groups were far more active in America than Muslim extremists.

Using what definition of being “active”? When was the last time the KKK tried to blow anything up?

bohratom said:
Cenk is a joke. Notice the name of the show is just a generic MSNBC program name. He is not long for his job as I bet MSNBC is actively looking for a qualified person to fill the spot. Cenk’s ratings have just been horrible since replacing Ed and Ed was’nt any better then Cenk.

Circling the drain.

BFD, could that be because blacks are only 15% of the population? Anyway, it’s nice to know MSNBC doesn’t lie. They just withhold the stuff they don’t like.

tatboy said:
Nice spin…

AKA olbyloon diversion and a weak one at that but then again we’re talking about a big fuggin dummie. ;)

Cracker .

BFD, could that be because blacks are only 15% of the population?

————-

Excellent point but big fuggin dummie won’t understand that your post shreds his pathetic diversion and makes him look even stupider if that’s possible.

writer said:
[I]t’s nice to know MSNBC doesn’t lie. They just withhold the stuff they don’t like.

Yet, if someone on Fox had done the exact same thing, the lefties would be screaming, “Fox lies!”

Cenk and all these other numbingly blind idiots are trying so hard it’s comical. When you have 6 terrorist attacks in a row committed by muslim men yelling allahu akbar, what’s the first logical thing they want to investigate? The KKK of course.

Do they not understand how stupid they look? I mean, it’s one thing to be passionate about always “rooting for the underdog” I guess and fighting for the oppressed is noble, but Jesus, a 3rd grader can see through this.
Do these guys honestly not see how stupid their argument is?

Right wing Racist’s: WE’RE NUMBER 1 !!! WE’RE NUMBER 1 !!! WE’RE NUMBER 1 !!! lolol

timzank said:
Did you read what the story was about? Obviously not.

Watched the show, live. Stand by what I said. Should have read the black separatist #’s, then called for the investigations I mentioned.

Since my buddy RRK has told me there’s no such thing as a black racist, this entire article comes as a shock.

BFD said:
HEY RIGHTIES, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE TOP 5 OUT OF 6!!!

But you forget that the left is the largest hate group. Go to any leftist rally and you will find nothing but hate while on the other hand to find a conservative with this kind of hate is only found in the hate groups listed above.

If you ignore the unpleasant facts, maybe they’ll just go away.

It’ll be interesting to find out why Cenk stopped at that point. That’s a hell of a jump in conclusion however. Many other excuses are possible. A respectable media watchdog site would inquire before jumping the gun with an accusation like that. FYI, Mr. Uygur isn’t black. He also stopped reading the White Nationalist group. Are you saying he’s protecting them?

LMAO. Hysterical.

What happened to George Lucas, btw? He looks like hell.

The assmunch was on youtube and MSNBC gave him a prime time show…. embarrassing. Who’s next MSNBC this guy !!!! Keenan Cahill… he is also a big youtube guy, I can see him taking Mathews spot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZKmUf1Cyp4

Uhhhhh…..God I wish MSNBC was canceled. What a joke.

writer said:
BFD, could that be because blacks are only 15% of the population? Anyway, it’s nice to know MSNBC doesn’t lie. They just withhold the stuff they don’t like.

Blacks are actualy 11% of the population but they do have 55% of the jail population….

The SPLC started out fine 40 years ago , but became a very wealthy left wing hate group all on it’s own .

“The Ku Klux Klan, the SPLC’s most lucrative nemesis, has shrunk from 4 million members in the 1920s to an estimated 2,000 today [year 2000], as many as 10 percent of whom are thought to be FBI informants. But news of a declining Klan does not make for inclining donations to Morris Dees and Co., which is why the SPLC honors nearly every nationally covered ‘hate crime’ with direct-mail alarums full of nightmarish invocations of ‘armed Klan paramilitary forces’ and ‘violent neo-Nazi extremists…”

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/mbarber/100325

So Junk was attacking Rep King for investigating radical Islam, but when he was reading from the list of the top three American hate groups, he stopped at number two because number three on the list was the “Nation of Islam”.

Lantern, I’ll have you know that Morris Dees has a ten million dollar estate. So there.

writer said:
Lantern, I’ll have you know that Morris Dees has a ten million dollar estate. So there.

Who knew that hate-mongering could be so profitable?

I tried to find that list on the SPLC site and couldn’t find it. But I noticed that they are VERY concerned about those they deem to be the Radical Right. Black Separatists on the other hand, not so much.

TobyTucker said:
If you ignore the unpleasant facts, maybe they’ll just go away.

Junk needs to take a few lessons from Rachel Madcow on how to cleverly omit any and all facts which render your ideological propaganda invalid.

This is rather old news, there has been a double standard for years. The American Black Panthers, The Nation of Islam and others have been considered terrorists by everyone, except of course their apologists. Who, in fact, are the same people that say a black man beating a white woman while calling her a cracker etc etc etc is not a hate crime. Yet, God forbid a white person even say the word ni&&er.

OxyCon said:
So Junk was attacking Rep King for investigating radical Islam, but when he was reading from the list of the top three American hate groups, he stopped at number two because number three on the list was the “Nation of Islam”.

Apparently, much like the Muslim Brotherhood, the Nation of Islam has no particular religious ideology.

Judge Mental said:
Who knew that hate-mongering could be so profitable?

Rev wright has a ten million dollar house, too. Hmm. ;)

Judge Mental said:
Apparently, much like the Muslim Brotherhood, the Nation of Islam has no particular religious ideology.

They pretty much hate everybody.

I guess Cenky doesn’t know that the KKK was the military wing of the Democratic Party. Cenky should go look up what the nickname of the 1924 Democratic Convention was. Answer below.

Judge Mental said:
Apparently, much like the Muslim Brotherhood, the Nation of Islam has no particular religious ideology.

Isn’t funny how the media isn’t reporting that the the Nation of Islam got a $3 million loan From Ghaddafi back in the 70′s for their HQ. (It was previously a Grreek Orthodox Church.)
http://www.libyaonline.com/news/details.php?id=10949

Alz said:
1924

lmfao

Alz said:
I guess Cenky doesn’t know that the KKK was the military wing of the Democratic Party. Cenky should go look up what the nickname of the 1924 Democratic Convention was. Answer below.

Now the SEIU is the military wing of the Democratic Party. And hey, they beat up blacks, too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w

…and Farrakhan, one of Obama’s buddies, is standing by Ghadaafi:
http://www.startribune.com/nation/117033433.html

“Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan said Sunday that he considers Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi a friend and won’t distance himself from him despite the deadly crackdown on protestors in the turbulent North Africa country.”

“Farrakhan didn’t talk specifics about the uprisings in Libya as he spoke to thousands of followers during his Chicago-based organization’s annual convention in the Chicago suburb of Rosemont.”

“‘Name one ruler that has the 100 love of his people,’ Farrakhan said. ‘You can’t find one.’”

Alz said:
Isn’t funny how the media isn’t reporting that the the Nation of Islam got a $3 million loan From Ghaddafi back in the 70’s for their HQ. (It was previously a Grreek Orthodox Church.)
http://www.libyaonline.com/news/details.php?id=10949

And another $5 million after that:

In my effort to rebuild the Nation of Islam in accord with the Teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Brother Gadhafi loaned the Nation of Islam $5 million for our economic development then forgave the loan.

BFD said:
lmfao

What else could ya do? You damned sure can’t rebut it.

Alz said:
I guess Cenky doesn’t know that the KKK was the military wing of the Democratic Party. Cenky should go look up what the nickname of the 1924 Democratic Convention was. Answer below.

The Klan Bake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1924_Democratic_National_Convention

OxyCon said:
Junk needs to take a few lessons from Rachel Madcow on how to cleverly omit any and all facts which render your ideological propaganda invalid.

Rachel Maddow is one of the most dishonest people on cable TV today. Check this site for many examples:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/

writer said:
Since my buddy RRK has told me there’s no such thing as a black racist, this entire article comes as a shock.

Wow! You are really obessed with the guy. I think it is love.

TobyTucker said:
Rachel Maddow is one of the most dishonest people on cable TV today. Check this site for many examples:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/

Hahaha Wow!

BadGenome said:
Now the SEIU is the military wing of the Democratic Party. And hey, they beat up blacks, too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w

It look’s like the torch has been passed.

Color Me Badd said:
Hahaha Wow!

and you would be one i thought would condenm this

Judge Mental said:
Apparently, much like the Muslim Brotherhood, the Nation of Islam has no particular religious ideology.

LMAO

Being intellectually dishonest is not going to help you convince people in the middle. Of course this is not surprising for MSNBC but it is nice to see Mediaite taking notice of it. Of course, Cenk could have recovered by saying the third ranked groups are black Tea party groups. Oh snap, that would mean MSNBC was lying about about the Tea Party too.

LOL, I thought I was watching a High School AV class project with someone trying to act like a reporter.
I see why no one watches MSNBC.
By the way the number one hate group the KKK, would not be around if the democrats back then didn’t create it and fund it .

Color Me Badd said:
Hahaha Wow!

cjd ohio 1 said:
and you would be one i thought would condenm this

i guess the ends justify the means huh

LibertySister said:
LOL, I thought I was watching a High School AV class project with someone trying to act like a reporter.
I see why no one watches MSNBC.
By the way the number one hate group the KKK, would not be around if the democrats back then didn’t create it and fund it .

LibertySister, trust me, Whites thorough American History didn’t need a political party affiliation to hate minorities. Look at this blog for instance.

–Cobra

Alz said:
The Klan Bake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1924_Democratic_National_Convention

What’s your point? That White people got together and hated on minority groups? As I said to LibertySister—
Look at THIS blog for instance.

–Cobra

cobra, you can’t back your post and you know it.

Religion of Peace said:
cobra, you can’t back your post and you know it.

LOL…what are you talking about? The first SLAVE SHIP (captained by a White man named Sir John Hawkins, since Blacks didn’t swim across the Atlantic)…
Oh…you didn’t know?

“The Good Ship Jesus

What has come to be referred to as “The Good Ship Jesus” was in fact the “Jesus of Lubeck,” a 700-ton ship purchased by King Henry VIII from the Hanseatic League, a merchant alliance between the cities of Hamburg and Lubeck in Germany. Twenty years after its purchase the ship, in disrepair, was leant to Sir John Hawkins by Queen Elizabeth.

Hawkins, a cousin of Sir Francis Drake, was granted permission from Queen Elizabeth for his first voyage in 1562. He was allowed to carry Africans to the Americas “with their own free consent” and he agreed to this condition. Hawkins had a reputation for being a religious man who required his crew to “serve God daily” and to love one another. Sir Francis Drake accompanied Hawkins on this voyage and subsequent others. Drake, was himself, devoutly religious. Services were held on board twice a day.

John Hawkins Coat of Arms
A bound slave adorns John Hawkins’ coat of arms.
Off the coast of Africa, near Sierra Leone, Hawkins captured 300-500 slaves, mostly by plundering Portugese ships, but also through violence and subterfuge promising Africans free land and riches in the new world. He sold most of the slaves in what is now known as the Dominican Republic. He returned home with a profit and ships laden with ivory, hides, and sugar. Thus began the British slave trade.”

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-241597.0.html

Many of the Founding Fathers (all WHITE) owned slaves. 11 Presidents (all WHITE) owned slaves. It took 190 years since the Revolution to get civil rights on PAPER for African-Americans (Government controlled by WHITES).

Come with it, “Religion of Peace.” Defend the Good Ship Jesus. Defend America’s history concerning African-Americans. Give me a REASON to fill this blog with more atrocities and abominations regarding race.

Bring it on.

–Cobra

The SPLC list is a joke. Every “hate” group is categorized as right wing. That’s why Black Separatists groups are on it.

Here’s an interview with the guy that puts the SPLC list together. Says the left is incapable of “hate” that’s why groups like the New Black Panthers are put on the right wing hate list….

http://tinyurl.com/5rnnka8

Eagle, I criticize the King. You defend him. If there’s love in the air, it seems to be between you and the King.

And Cobra still hates white people.

Cobra said:
LOL…what are you talking about? The first SLAVE SHIP (captained by a White man named Sir John Hawkins, since Blacks didn’t swim across the Atlantic)…Oh…you didn’t know? “The Good Ship Jesus What has come to be referred to as “The Good Ship Jesus” was in fact the “Jesus of Lubeck,” a 700-ton ship purchased by King Henry VIII from the Hanseatic League, a merchant alliance between the cities of Hamburg and Lubeck in Germany. Twenty years after its purchase the ship, in disrepair, was leant to Sir John Hawkins by Queen Elizabeth. Hawkins, a cousin of Sir Francis Drake, was granted permission from Queen Elizabeth for his first voyage in 1562. He was allowed to carry Africans to the Americas “with their own free consent” and he agreed to this condition. Hawkins had a reputation for being a religious man who required his crew to “serve God daily” and to love one another. Sir Francis Drake accompanied Hawkins on this voyage and subsequent others. Drake, was himself, devoutly religious. Services were held on board twice a day. John Hawkins Coat of ArmsA bound slave adorns John Hawkins’ coat of arms.Off the coast of Africa, near Sierra Leone, Hawkins captured 300-500 slaves, mostly by plundering Portugese ships, but also through violence and subterfuge promising Africans free land and riches in the new world. He sold most of the slaves in what is now known as the Dominican Republic. He returned home with a profit and ships laden with ivory, hides, and sugar. Thus began the British slave trade.” http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-241597.0.html Many of the Founding Fathers (all WHITE) owned slaves. 11 Presidents (all WHITE) owned slaves. It took 190 years since the Revolution to get civil rights on PAPER for African-Americans (Government controlled by WHITES). Come with it, “Religion of Peace.” Defend the Good Ship Jesus. Defend America’s history concerning African-Americans. Give me a REASON to fill this blog with more atrocities and abominations regarding race. Bring it on. –Cobra

Just remember that the slave trade was only able to get off the ground because of native african black’s that sold out there own race for a price.

Cobra said:
What’s your point? That White people got together and hated on minority groups? As I said to LibertySister—
Look at THIS blog for instance.

–Cobra

They were DEMOCRATS. If they were Republicans, your response would have been different.

That was 1924. In the 1930′s, the Liberals/Progressives were big into Eugenics – again to get rid of Blacks (and others.)

In the 1950′s, the liberals were cornered and they adapted by trying to be the champions of minorities. But as we have all seen, the policies and programs started by liberals in the 60′s have been terrible. About all we can say about the results of these terrible liberal ideas is that there has been a lot of hopelessness, despair and death. The Liberals basically re-enslaved blacks. They did the same thing to the American Indians.

Cobra hates white people so badly, you can’t really take anything he says seriously. He’s one of those black separatists the article is talking about.

LOL, black hate groups and Rush can do a sit up.

What’s 105 billion amongst friends, obama, pelosi and reid? WOW!

cobra, you said “look at this blog” you worthless snake.

cobra=racist…the worst kind.

Just remember that the slave trade was only able to get off the ground because of native african black’s that sold out there own race for a price.
———–

cobra tore those pages out of the history books that he obviously has never read.

illusive man said:
Just remember that the slave trade was only able to get off the ground because of native african black’s that sold out there own race for a price.

Bullocks. The slave trade got off the ground because Native Americans didn’t make good slaves for White Colonists. The Spaniards tried it first in Hispaniola (the REAL Christopher Columbus) and many islanders picked infanticide rather than damning their children to a life of torture and rape at the hands of White imperialists.
So Whites imported them from Africa because it was easier, and alliances already existed with other Africans facilitating the transport– or can you link to me the Black owned ships that brought them over here?

writer said:
Cobra hates white people so badly, you can’t really take anything he says seriously. He’s one of those black separatists the article is talking about.

I’m just a Black man that doesn’t whitewash history (pun intended) or kiss your ass.

If you don’t like it, Writer…that’s a shame.

You can’t do a damn thing about it.

–Cobra

cobra has no idea what he’s talking about and it took him over 15 minjtes to cut and paste something that had nothing to do with “look at this blog.” What a loser.

Uygur essentially did this (with fingers blocking ears): “La-la-la…I’m not listening…La-la-la.”

The funny part is “cobra” wouldn’t last 2 days in his Africa.

Cobra, I like guys like you. You prove that there are black racists. Lots of these libs on here have grown up in lily white enviornments and don’t believe people like you exist.

ChrisNH said:
Uygur essentially did this (with fingers blocking ears): “La-la-la…I’m not listening…La-la-la.”

He sure did and “cobra” fully condones and endorses him for doing just that.

Every thread seems to break down into various cliques of name-calling schoolkids. Looks like you folks have a lot of issues that could be helped by a very long course of therapy, an escorted trip behind the woodshed, and a close encounter with a bar of yellow soap.
To quote Jeffrey Hunter, lyricist for the Grateful Dead, “Please don’t dominate the rap, Jack, if you’ve got nothing new to say.”
Thank you.

Cobra said:
What’s your point? That White people got together and hated on minority groups? As I said to LibertySister—
Look at THIS blog for instance.

–Cobra

I backed it up plenty. White folks like SLAVE TRADERS got together and hated on minorities. If you want more examples in American history, like I said…
Let me know. I’ll be happy to oblige.

Religion of Peace said:
cobra, you said “look at this blog” you worthless snake.

cobra=racist…the worst kind.

How many cut and pastes from this blog would satisfy you? Give me a number. Or do you just want to wait for Mr. Paulsipher to show up with his blackface avatar?

–Cobra

It’s articles like this I’d like to “educate” those who assert that FNC is the only news channel that lies,is dishonest etc etc.MSNBC is at the top of the list of those remarks.

And here we have an MSNBC anchor doing the same thing,distorting,lying by omission.

Ultimately what this proves the most is there are not just misinformed right winger but similarly misinformed left wingers.This also once again makes the case that nobody should watch these networks or if they do they should realize they are being deceived to suit an agenda.

I’m just a Black man that doesn’t whitewash history (pun intended)

by racist

Thanks!

Just so we know. Black separatists include Nation of Islam , but are not just them.
We might also look at how many of the hate groups listed identify as Christian.
I’d also guess, that Nation of Islam is not the Muslims that Rep King wants to investigate. He might want to look at the effect the anti-Muslim groups are having.

As Martin Luther King Jr. once said: “Violence begets violence; hate begets hate; and toughness begets a greater toughness. It is all a descending spiral, and the end is destruction — for everybody. Along the way of life, someone must have enough sense and morality to cut off the chain of hate.”

Cobra, your blasts from the past are nice, and you’re still a white hating racist.

“cobra” is crying about somebody’s avatar? ROFL! That’s nothing compared to the level of your hatred and racism. Cheney yourself!

writer said:
Cobra, your blasts from the past are nice, and you’re still a white hating racist.

I’ll bet a thousand dollars he uses the n word 500 times a day. That’s ok cause he’s “black.”

illusive man said:
Just remember that the slave trade was only able to get off the ground because of native african black’s that sold out there own race for a price.

In that case, all white people are forever blameless.

Cobra can sell this crap to someone who buys it, like all these lefties whose only experience with different races comes from watching TV. Anyone who’s been in the real world knows there are plenty of black racists. And Cobra happens to be one.

I’m glad you post her, writer.

OS ;)

here

I’m a little partial to WC as well.

Religion, you seem to have experienced a dose of reality yourself. Those of us who have need to enlighten those who haven’t.

I’ve worked with and employed black people in the past and they were good people. Very good people. cobra, not so much. He reminds me a certain tp’er.

Those numbers just show how many crazy right wing wackos groups there are.

Yoda002 said:
Those numbers just show how many crazy right wing wackos groups there are.

F

Same here, Religion. Like any other race, some are great. Some not so much. What miffs me is this left wing mantra that only the white race contains bad or racist people.

Religion of Peace said:
I’ve worked with and employed black people in the past and they were good people. Very good people. cobra, not so much. He reminds me a certain tp’er.

“Some of my best friends are…..”

–Cobra

@ Cobra

If you don’t think the black’s that went out in to the brush in order to roundup potential slaves from neighboring tribes so they could be sold at the docks to American and Euro slave traders so they could earn money to grow the power and influence of there own tribes are as responsible as the guy’s that actually sold and bought them in America and Europe then there is no helping you.

Cobra, not all black people are racist. You just happen to be one.

Interesting http://www.abidings.com

illusive man said:
@ Cobra

If you don’t think the black’s that went out in to the brush in order to roundup potential slaves from neighboring tribes so they could be sold at the docks to American and Euro slave traders so they could earn money to grow the power and influence of there own tribes are as responsible as the guy’s that actually sold and bought them in America and Europe then there is no helping you.

A) First of all, who says that the Africans who helped round up potential slaves weren’t under threat of harm or subjugation themselves? What…you think that Europeans thought Black slave-catchers were equal to them?
And how on EARTH does that justify or make a moral equivalency with the American Chattel Slave Trade?

B) Who says I’m asking for your “help” on this?

–Cobra

Cobra said:
“Some of my best friends are…..”

–Cobra

See, loser. I never said that. It just shows the level of your desperation. I’m starting to doubt you’re even black. IF you are you’re a disgrace to your own race. Next, you’ll be claiming to be a Buddhist or something.

writer said:
Cobra, not all black people are racist. You just happen to be one.

I don’t understand what he has posted that is racist. The history of white people in this world is pretty sh*tty. Do you really want to try and defend it?

http://www.maniacworld.com/Louis-CK-on-being-white.html

im_lovin_it said:
I don’t understand what he has posted that is racist. The history of white people in this world is pretty sh*tty. Do you really want to try and defend it?

http://www.maniacworld.com/Louis-CK-on-being-white.html

I agree. Slip on over to newshounds for more proof. Beware, it’s not pretty.

im_lovin_it, you haven’t been here long enough to get the full flavor of it. Most of Cobra’s posts drip with animosity towards white people. Yes, there was slavery. But I don’t think any of those people are still alive. Sure, there are white racists. There are also black ones.

Cobra said:
Who says I’m asking for your “help” on this? –Cobra

Because you are not getting the history right and I want to help you get it right, Why? Because you are my fellow equal human being and ignorance can be our species greatest enemy.

Religion of Peace said:
See, loser. I never said that. It just shows the level of your desperation. I’m starting to doubt you’re even black. IF you are you’re a disgrace to your own race. Next, you’ll be claiming to be a Buddhist or something.

As if you’re in a position to judge that. Get over yourself.

–Cobra

writer said:
Same here, Religion. Like any other race, some are great. Some not so much. What miffs me is this left wing mantra that only the white race contains bad or racist people.

Exactly. According to the left, everything bad that ever happened was done by Whites, and conversely Whites have never done anything good.

And as a former athlete, I’ve had many great times being teammates and friends with Blacks. I’ve played with and against a couple NFL players who will be one day be Hall of Famers. I also serviced insurance accounts in a mostly Black city for four years. 99% of my customers were Black and I got to know thousands of people very well during that time. I met alot of nice, hard working people who had the same dreams and aspirations as myself.

KUDOS to you Frances!

Your headline was well done & you wrote a good story.
It would have been easy to overlook this kind of MSNBC CRAP, but you were perceptive.

How about giving some lessons to Mark about: HEADLINE WRITING 101

writer, I don’t think “cobra” is black I think he’s mentally ill. IF he was black he would have been upset at what I said and he wasn’t in the least.

Mentally ill, far left. Same difference.

Religion of Peace said:
writer, I don’t think “cobra” is black I think he’s mentally ill. IF he was black he would have been upset at what I said and he wasn’t in the least.

What college did YOU get your Afro-American Studies Degree from again? LOL.

This is what happens online at message boards where everybody isn’t in lockstep with the same ideology. If somebody disagrees, there “must be something wrong with them.”

Get over yourself.

–Cobra

I never claimed I had any degrees in Afro-American studies. You clearly don’t, either. If I did could I say I was black?

Writer, he’s not black just a hater in general. Btw, anyone who claims to be a race they aren’t has something wrong with them.

Cobra, don’t deny your racism. Embrace it. You’re really good at it.

problem is that the Church of Islam (Black Muslims) is a copycat version of Scientology, being a UFO/extraterrestrially-based religion. one of the tenets is that believers (ie, blacks) will one day be placed back into their original positions of power when their extraterrestrial guides/progenitors return.

(check Parliament/Funkadelic’s video ‘Give Up The Funk (Gonna Tear The Roof Off The Sucker)’, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UypeE3zTwBs&feature=related
the ‘Mothership Connection’ that George Clinton lands in is a symbol of the expected return of the extraterrestrials, who’ll restore believers to their ‘rightful position’. (of course, black stereotypes of the time were also alluded to).

to this are added some elements of true Islam. some books (ex Koran) and beliefs are adhered to, others aren’t. most Muslims (Sunni, Shia, etc) don’t consider the Church of Islam as being members of ‘true Islam’, much as Protestants and Catholics may say Mormonism is not ‘true’ Christianity. in the latter case, the magical compass that got their ancestors here, & the repeated calls to Revolutionary Era values of freedom and liberty might have something to do with it.

my purpose in the above is to explain that the Church of Islam has elements which separate it from Shia or Sunni Islam. lumping them together would be similar to lumping Mormons with Catholics or Protestants, which many so-called ‘real Christians’ would be loathe to do.

Religion of Peace said:
I never claimed I had any degrees in Afro-American studies. You clearly don’t, either. If I did could I say I was black?

Writer, he’s not black just a hater in general. Btw, anyone who claims to be a race they aren’t has something wrong with them.

I never understood the concept of Women’s studies as a major in grad. school. I picked an unusual major choice but at least mine had the word management in it. :) You pay all that money to learn about various women? And for what career? As a female, it makes no sense. :)

Ha! Once again the far left crazy world view meets reality and it can’t bear to acknowledge it. This is what happens when you live in fantasy land. The fantasy land that the far left in this country live in is one where white American males are inherently racist, stupid (and at the same time capable of genius like evil planning), inbred, invented slavery, hate the poor, sick, young, old, gays, and all other races. And any time that left wing common knowledge is threatened, or contrary evidence is presented, they stick their head in the sand. They make exceptions for the white males that believe in left wing politics, of course. Then they try to explain away conservative thinkers as having primitive brains http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/rightwing-brains-different-2171127.html

Everyone should read Thomas Sowell’s book Race and Culture. Although, I’m sure some people on here will call him an Uncle Tom or smear him in other ways.

AikidoJoe said:
hate the poor, sick, young, old, gays, and all other races.

BOY!!! You learn something new everyday. I didn’t know the “poor, sick, young, old, gays” were a race. You really win the prize for being an idiot AikidoJoe.

okami said:
problem is that the Church of Islam (Black Muslims) is a copycat version of Scientology, being a UFO/extraterrestrially-based religion. one of the tenets is that believers (ie, blacks) will one day be placed back into their original positions of power when their extraterrestrial guides/progenitors return.

I never thought of the “Scientology” analogy. Very good. Living in the Chicago area affords us the benefit of some news about Nation of Islam. I think the “real” Muslims tolerate it because Farrakhan is anti-American, but they think they will crush it when they take over.

It’s sort of a Black Theology system – maybe similar to Rev Wright’s.

real john, you seem unable to post without name calling. Is that part of that left wing sensitivity, or what?

writer said:
real john, you seem unable to post without name calling. Is that part of that left wing sensitivity, or what?

writer said:
real john, you’re an incredible hypocrite.

writer said:
just as you left wing assholes

Now, what were yousaying about name calling? It seems you are the hypocrite.

If you’ll recall, real john, I didn’t say that until you said, and I quote, ‘You can stick it where the sun don’t shine.’ I wasn’t even talking to you and you took it upon yourself to throw that in. Check the posts. You’ll see I’m right. Never mentioned you at all till you went on the attack.

writer said:
Never mentioned you at all till you went on the attack.

What does that have anything to do with your name calling?

writer said:
If you’ll recall, real john, I didn’t say that until you said, and I quote, ‘You can stick it where the sun don’t shine.’

OH!! Now could you explain how that is name calling?

writer said:
You’re just an asshole in general.

Oh my, another name calling.

The name calling part was when you called Akido Joe an idiot. The insult part was what you did to me. But hey, you don’t need to explain it to me. Some liberals aren’t hateful and insulting. You just don’t happen to be in that group. Live and let live, I say.

writer said:
The name calling part was when you called Akido Joe an idiot.

Oh, was I talking to you when I wrote that?

writer said:
I wasn’t even talking to you and you took it upon yourself to throw that in.

Seems you prove yourself a hypocrite more and more as the morning goes on.

Oh, was I talking to you when I wrote that?

No, just as I wasn’t talking to you when you jumped in. Aggravating, isn’t it?

writer said:
Aggravating, isn’t it?

NO! It’s funny as hell what a hypocrite you are and then have the nerve to call someone else a hypocrite.

As do you, real john. See? We’ve reached common ground.

writer said:
We’ve reached common ground.

No we haven’t, and I’ve wasted enough time trying to converse with your ignorant ass. So you have a good night.

Right back at ‘cha, buddy.

What a great skit for Saturday Night Live- someone working so hard at spin that he inadvertently starts arguing with the very evidence he is trotting out. Only this is real. I think. Beginning to wonder if anybody could be this biased and stupid, seeking alternate explanation.

King as absolutely correct. And where are all those nice peaceful American Muslims speaking out loudly against the terrorists and Al Qaida? I’ve only heard one…and I can’t remember his name. Why is that? Why aren’t those good Muslims all flocking to him and joining him?

@mardec……where are all those nice peaceful Americans speaking out loudly against right wing racists? I’ve not heard any…..and I can’t remember ever hearing any. Why is that? Why aren’t those good Americans all flocking to refudiate (sp’s made up word) them?

How did this YouTube hack ever get a national television show? Oh Wait…..he works at MSNBC.

writer said:
Eagle, I criticize the King. You defend him. If there’s love in the air, it seems to be between you and the King.

When have I defended him? I’m just pointing out your obsession.

““Let me introduce real facts here so that Congressman King can be educated,” Uygur boasts before showing a number of statistics from various research groups. Rep. King wasn’t the only one to get educated tonight, however…”

LOL! Cenk educating anyone, is a joke! That was hilarious!

“Too many mosques…” Funny, that little snippit has legs, man! That’s been running around since 2007.

On Wednesday, the congressman said: “The quote was taken entirely out of context by Politico. My position in this interview, as it has been for many years, is that too many mosques in this country do not cooperate with law enforcement. Unfortunately, Politico was incapable of making this distinction.” 2007

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0907/Rep_King_There_are_too_many_mosques_in_this_country_.html

“”There are too many mosques in this country,” King told Politico in 2007. “There are too many people who are sympatheti­c to radical Islam. We should be looking at them more carefully and finding out how we can infiltrate them.” … “There’s a disconnect between outstandin­g Muslims who contribute so much to the future of our country and those leaders who — for whatever reason — acquiesce in terror or ignore the threat,”

TrollJuice said:
where are all those nice peaceful Americans speaking out loudly against right wing racists?

when’s the last time they’ve ever done anything?

When something happens, I know lots of people condemn their actions, but I can’t think of anything that’s happened, except maybe Tiller. (and I’m not talking about a brick thrown or a threatening phone call because I can provide you with examples from the Left to match anything like that you could offer.)

Seems like at least every week we hear of some Muslim related terrorist attack or threat or arrest.

mardec said:
King as absolutely correct. And where are all those nice peaceful American Muslims speaking out loudly against the terrorists and Al Qaida? I’ve only heard one…and I can’t remember his name. Why is that? Why aren’t those good Muslims all flocking to him and joining him?

If the Muslims and Muslim apologists spent ha;f as much time actually condemning terrorism, maybe people would take them seriously. Instead, they explain away the terrorist and seem to want to grease the skids for Sharia.

Nuktubian said:
How did this YouTube hack ever get a national television show? Oh Wait…..he works at MSNBC.

Is MSNBC a national network? After all “everybody” knows that they are not a “real” news network.

Well as I have said before, this is the reason I am a 1st Amendment purist especially when it pisses me off. Give a person enough rope and his own words will hang him. So keep on speaking Cenk, you just showed your willingness to manipulate the data when it does not go your way and thus you have given us a clue into the how MSNBC runs its operation.

Faux News, as many call Fox, has nothing on these clowns.

Oh and by the way, I guess that SPLC has had to come clean that “Whitey” is not the only one who can hate and be militant. I know that hurts, but at least you will face the truth.

OK, so I have to wonder if the person who copied this SLPC graphic has just had to apply to Fox for a job.

Cobra said:
Bullocks. The slave trade got off the ground because Native Americans didn’t make good slaves for White Colonists. The Spaniards tried it first in Hispaniola (the REAL Christopher Columbus) and many islanders picked infanticide rather than damning their children to a life of torture and rape at the hands of White imperialists.
So Whites imported them from Africa because it was easier, and alliances already existed with other Africans facilitating the transport– or can you link to me the Black owned ships that brought them over here?

–Cobra

African slave trading happened long before the Atlantic Slave Trade/America got involved, and it still continues to this day.

The Atlantic slave trade refers to the trade in slaves that took place across the Atlantic ocean from the sixteenth through to the nineteenth centuries. The vast majority of slaves involved in the Atlantic trade were Africans from the central and western parts of the continent, who were sold by African slave dealers to European traders, who transported them to the colonies in North and South America.

Slavery in Africa continues today. Slavery existed in Africa before the arrival of Europeans – as did a slave trade that exported millions of Africans to North Africa, the Middle East, and the Persian Gulf. This trade existed following the Arab conquests of regions beneath Northern Africa and thus became widespread throughout the continent.

The very earliest external slave trade was the trans-Saharan slave trade.

Historians agree between 11 and 18 million Africans were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert between 650 and 1900, compared to 9.4 to 14 million Africans brought to the Americas in the Atlantic slave trade from 15th century to the early 19th century.

The trade of slaves across the Indian Ocean also has a long history beginning with the control of sea routes by Afro-Arab traders in the ninth century.

The first Europeans to arrive on the coast of Guinea were the Portuguese; the first European to actually buy African slaves in the region of Guinea was Antão Gonçalves, a Portuguese explorer in 1441 CE/AD.

The Spanish were the first Europeans to use African slaves in the New World on islands such as Cuba and Hispaniola.

The Atlantic slave trade peaked in the late 18th century, when the largest number of slaves were captured on raiding expeditions into the interior of West Africa. These expeditions were typically carried out by African kingdoms against weaker African tribes and peoples.

For the Atlantic slave trade, captives purchased from slave dealers in West African regions known as the Slave Coast, Gold Coast, and Côte d’Ivoire were sold into slavery as a result of a defeat in warfare. In the Bight of Biafra near modern-day Senegal and Benin, some African kings sold their captives locally and later to European slave traders for goods such as metal cookware, rum, livestock, and seed grain. Previous to the voyage, the victims were held in “slave castles” and deep pits where many died from multiple illnesses and malnutrition. Conditions were even worse in the Middle Passage across the Atlantic where up to a third of the slaves died en route.

Arabs also enslaved substantial numbers of Europeans. According to Robert Davis between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary corsairs, who were vassals of the Ottoman Empire, and sold as slaves between the 16th and 19th centuries.

The Arab slave trade from East Africa is one of the oldest slave trades, predating the European transatlantic slave trade by 700 years

The Arab slave trade originated before Islam and lasted more than a millennium. It continues today in some places. Arab traders brought Africans across the Indian Ocean from present-day Kenya, Mozambique, Tanzania, Sudan, Eritrea, western Ethiopia and elsewhere in East Africa to present-day Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Turkey and other parts of the Middle East and South Asia (mainly Pakistan and India). Unlike the trans-Atlantic slave trade to the New World, Arabs supplied African slaves to the Muslim world, which at its peak stretched over three continents from the Atlantic (Morocco, Spain) to India and eastern China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_slave_trade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery

Cenk Uygur “The voice of the Progro-Left!

With all the talent available in the US, MSNBC chose this guy to speak for them.

WOW!

BatBoy said:
Cenk Uygur “The voice of the Progro-Left!

With all the talent available in the US, MSNBC chose this guy to speak for them.

WOW!

The perils of having such an ideologically homogeneous (and homogeneously awful) prime time line-up. They couldn’t hire anyone good for fear that even MSNBCtards would finally figure out how terrible the shit they’ve been watching is.

“NBC Universal International will undergo a restructure over the next few months following the departure of president Pete Smith.”

Cenk,guess who will be one of the resturcture meeting is going to be about.

I will even give you a hint. The initials of the person is C.U.
Does that help you any?

BadGenome said:
The perils of having such an ideologically homogeneous (and homogeneously awful) prime time line-up. They couldn’t hire anyone good for fear that even MSNBCtards would finally figure out how terrible the shit they’ve been watching is.

MSNBC is just jealous of the mindlessly loyal viewership of FNC. First they tried to copy FNC. Remember Scarborough Country and The Savage(Weiner) Nation? That didn’t work as FNC had the wingnut market cornered. MSNBC might have had a chance if they hadn’t chickened out on Savage and just piled on more crazy, but alas. Now they’re trying to be the counterpoint to FNC by providing partisan hackery that they think progressives and FNC haters will enjoy. Unfortunately for them, most people on “the left” like to use multiple outlets for their information and don’t need to be reminded that FNC is a biased and disreputable source for news. MSNBC might pick up some liberals who like being told what they want to hear, but they’ll never have the cultish following of Fox News.

sarainitaly said:
“”There are too many mosques in this country,” King told Politico in 2007. “There are too many people who are sympatheti­c to radical Islam. We should be looking at them more carefully and finding out how we can infiltrate them.” … “There’s a disconnect between outstandin­g Muslims who contribute so much to the future of our country and those leaders who — for whatever reason — acquiesce in terror or ignore the threat,”

King talks about the NYC bomb scare. Does he mention that it was Muslims that helped uncover that plot.

Security demands that we follow leads and work with the Muslim community to save lives and prevent terrorist acts. That means a little covert action. Public hearings is a pretty stupid idea for Muslim relations. It only serves to alienate the Muslim community even more and inflame the growing anti Muslim sentiment and groups in this country.
IMO, he’s doing a good job of catering to a certain group of voters, and a bad job of increasing security.

Eagle, you seem to be obsessed with me.

im_lovin_it said:
MSNBC is just jealous of the mindlessly loyal viewership of FNC. First they tried to copy FNC. Remember Scarborough Country and The Savage(Weiner) Nation? That didn’t work as FNC had the wingnut market cornered. MSNBC might have had a chance if they hadn’t chickened out on Savage and just piled on more crazy, but alas. Now they’re trying to be the counterpoint to FNC by providing partisan hackery that they think progressives and FNC haters will enjoy. Unfortunately for them, most people on “the left” like to use multiple outlets for their information and don’t need to be reminded that FNC is a biased and disreputable source for news. MSNBC might pick up some liberals who like being told what they want to hear, but they’ll never have the cultish following of Fox News.

I don’t know what’s dumber: Cenk arguing that Democrats getting the shit beaten out of them in 2010 proved that the nation is really left of center, or this tired argument that MSNBC can’t match Fox in the ratings only because progressives are too smart to lap up propaganda the way conservatives do. I guess I’m just going to declare it a tie.

writer said:
Eagle, you seem to be obsessed with me.

No I just find it funny that 90% of your posts mention this king guy.

And you care why?

Hard core leftist are generally slow, I mean seriously stupid people. I’m not trying to get into name calling but it is what it is. Did you ever see protesters/demonstraters up close? Hear what they saying? These are people that need medication just to get by in life. A good example, for those who haven’t, would be the end of that 9/11 truther dvd. If you have ever seen it, at the end memebers of the audience get to approach a mic and comment on what the panel had just showed. The people are seriously retarded. If all this seems off topic, all I want to point out is that people like Cenk is one of them and he is currently employed by others like him. Hence the ratings that envelope MSNBC.

More on topic: King is 100% right and doing a great thing. To argue otherwise one would have to claim that we are not at war with islamic extremist, there are none in America and we cant possibly face a threat from them. That cant possibly be done, hence the people mentioned in paragraph one.

CosmosDan said:
King talks about the NYC bomb scare. Does he mention that it was Muslims that helped uncover that plot.

Security demands that we follow leads and work with the Muslim community to save lives and prevent terrorist acts. That means a little covert action. Public hearings is a pretty stupid idea for Muslim relations. It only serves to alienate the Muslim community even more and inflame the growing anti Muslim sentiment and groups in this country.
IMO, he’s doing a good job of catering to a certain group of voters, and a bad job of increasing security.

Sorry, quit apologizing. They can/should stand up for themselves – which means firmly being AGAINST terrorism.

Remember, not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists ARE Muslims.

Here is a body count (and much more info that the liberals continually ignore/minimize):
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

BadGenome said:
I don’t know what’s dumber: Cenk arguing that Democrats getting the shit beaten out of them in 2010 proved that the nation is really left of center, or this tired argument that MSNBC can’t match Fox in the ratings only because progressives are too smart to lap up propaganda the way conservatives do. I guess I’m just going to declare it a tie.

That’s hilarious.

It’s amazing how deep of a hole they will dig. They’re so serious too – as if they actually believe the bs.

And then when they do get out, they will deny that they were in a hole.

I’m pretty sure that this form of liberalism, what I call Modern Liberalism/Progressivism is very similar to alcohol addiction:

- Massive denial.
Lying.
- Making things up.
- Forgetting what they just said,.
- Anger at the people who pint out the issues, etc, etc, etc.

@Genome, Alz

Hahaha. Okay, imagine the reaction if MSNBC collapsed. Ho Hum. Now imagine if FNC collpased….. NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! What will we do?! Who will save us from the commislamogressives?!?!?!

Now Mr Cenk Uygur, speaking of “facts” let me remind you about the US demographics:

The WHITES alone in the US make up 74.8% of the entire population (229.8 million)
The BLACKS alone in the US make up only 12.4% of the entire population (38.1 million)

According to population statistics, the Whites are almost 7 times more than Blacks in America.

So according to the data you presented to your viewers today, if the black separatists came out 3rd place with as much as 149 hate groups, when they make up only a tiny fraction of the entire US population; I guess one can only imagine the number of blacks affiliated to, or in support of hate groups.

Whenever there are statistics that tend to compare the White and Black races, it is essential to first take note of the fact that black are outnumbered, since they make only 12.4% of the entire population(38.1 million our of the 309 million). So according to this ratio, we can assume there are 1,000 White apples in a basket and 150 of them are bad, while you have only 300 Black apples in a basket with as much as 90 bad apples.

“The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” —–Winston Churchill

im_lovin_it said:
@Genome, Alz Hahaha. Okay, imagine the reaction if MSNBC collapsed. Ho Hum. Now imagine if FNC collpased….. NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! What will we do?! Who will save us from the commislamogressives?!?!?!

This post makes me wonder if your about 9 years old.

LOGICandREASON said:
Now Mr Cenk Uygur, speaking of “facts” let me remind you about the US demographics: The WHITES alone in the US make up 74.8% of the entire population (229.8 million)The BLACKS alone in the US make up only 12.4% of the entire population (38.1 million) According to population statistics, the Whites are almost 7 times more than Blacks in America. So according to the data you presented to your viewers today, if the black separatists came out 3rd place with as much as 149 hate groups, when they make up only a tiny fraction of the entire US population; I guess one can only imagine the number of blacks affiliated to, or in support of hate groups. Whenever there are statistics that tend to compare the White and Black races, it is essential to first take note of the fact that black are outnumbered, since they make only 12.4% of the entire population(38.1 million our of the 309 million). So according to this ratio, we can assume there are 1,000 White apples in a basket and 150 of them are bad, while you have only 300 Black apples in a basket with as much as 90 bad apples. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” —–Winston Churchill

These stats cant be accurate, it is about 80% black rite here where I work. Oh wait, i’m in a prison. Ok never mind.

Yet PMSNBC still cannot figure out why they have such a tiny audience and ALL of them are left of center if not far left of center.

Will Cong. King investigate himself as an American facilitator of terrorists?

Question to the liberals..
Now whites are the minority in LA and other parts of California and the united states. Can whites start claiming minority status and ask for there own beauty pageants, scholarships, and tv networks without being called racist?
Can White Europeans be proud of there heritage and family history to share with there children just like Hispanics without being called racist?
You dont have to hate another person of color or be called racist because you are proud of your heritage.

The TRUTH, The FACTS, REALITY

…Name three things you will NEVER hear from a lamestream socialist “Corrupt B-tard” media stooge of the lunatic-left d-crat socialists.

Joseph Glackin said:
Will Cong. King investigate himself as an American facilitator of terrorists?

And he would do that why?

Democrats = TERRORIST ENABLERS!

We’ll site 1000 ISLAMIC Terrorist attacks, but the DEMOCRATS don’t see a common theme!
They’ll say “Tomothy McVeigh!”, equating isolated incidents to a worldwide jihaad!

Democrats = TERRORIST ENABLERS!

2012!
PURGE THE DEMOCRATS!

NORBIT Jr. said:
Democrats = TERRORIST ENABLERS! We’ll site 1000 ISLAMIC Terrorist attacks, but the DEMOCRATS don’t see a common theme!They’ll say “Tomothy McVeigh!”, equating isolated incidents to a worldwide jihaad! Democrats = TERRORIST ENABLERS! 2012!PURGE THE DEMOCRATS!

Exactly right norbit!

A very very small percentage of the white population is associated in any way with supposed hate groups.  However, a huge percentage of the black population are active in dangerously violent hate groups.  Facts are facts.

mardec said:
King as absolutely correct. And where are all those nice peaceful American Muslims speaking out loudly against the terrorists and Al Qaida? I’ve only heard one…and I can’t remember his name. Why is that? Why aren’t those good Muslims all flocking to him and joining him?

Quick…name 5 American Muslims who have radio talk shows, cable news programs or are newspaper editors/publishers.

If you CAN’T, that explains half the problem of why you aren’t hearing “nice, peaceful American Muslims.”

–Cobra

Dem4Ever said:
A very very small percentage of the white population is associated in any way with supposed hate groups.  However, a huge percentage of the black population are active in dangerously violent hate groups.  Facts are facts.

That’s not a fact. That’s your OPINION. Cite the evidence.
According to the 2008 Estimates:
37,131,771 African-Americans.
http://www.theroot.com/views/portrait-black-america-eve-2010-census

“huge percentage of the black population are active in dangerously violent hate groups”…c’mon–cite you facts!

I’ll HUMOR you if you consider the Nation of Islam to be a “dangerously violent hate group” (it most certainly is NOT “dangerously violent”) :
“The number of members of the Nation of Islam is believed to be between 20,000 and 50,000.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam

50,000 (maybe) out of 37 MILLION? “huge percentage?”

Where are your FACTS?

LibertySister said:
Question to the liberals..
Now whites are the minority in LA and other parts of California and the united states. Can whites start claiming minority status and ask for there own beauty pageants, scholarships, and tv networks without being called racist?
Can White Europeans be proud of there heritage and family history to share with there children just like Hispanics without being called racist?
You dont have to hate another person of color or be called racist because you are proud of your heritage.

Are you claiming that Whites have NO power in the United States of America?
Are you claiming that cities, states, capitols, parks, statues, memorials and museums aren’t named after White male slave owners, slave traders and heroes of the Confederacy in this country?
Are you claiming that Whites do NOT own every major media outlet in America?
Are you claiming the White do NOT OVERWHELMINGLY control a disproportionate percentage of American Wealth?

Liberty, you want minorities to cry over a beauty pagent where non-whites are represented in a country where the entire fashion/beauty industry from Madison Ave to Hollywood is DOMINATED by the Eurocentric White Beauty propoganda?

Really?

–Cobra

sarainitaly said:
African slave trading happened long before the Atlantic Slave Trade/America got involved, and it still continues to this day.

The Atlantic slave trade refers to the trade in slaves that took place across the Atlantic ocean from the sixteenth through to the nineteenth centuries. The vast majority of slaves involved in the Atlantic trade were Africans from the central and western parts of the continent, who were sold by African slave dealers to European traders, who transported them to the colonies in North and South America.

Slavery in Africa continues today. Slavery existed in Africa before the arrival of Europeans – as did a slave trade that exported millions of Africans to North Africa, the Middle East, and the Persian Gulf. This trade existed following the Arab conquests of regions beneath Northern Africa and thus became widespread throughout the continent.

The very earliest external slave trade was the trans-Saharan slave trade.

Historians agree between 11 and 18 million Africans were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert between 650 and 1900, compared to 9.4 to 14 million Africans brought to the Americas in the Atlantic slave trade from 15th century to the early 19th century.

The trade of slaves across the Indian Ocean also has a long history beginning with the control of sea routes by Afro-Arab traders in the ninth century.

The first Europeans to arrive on the coast of Guinea were the Portuguese; the first European to actually buy African slaves in the region of Guinea was Antão Gonçalves, a Portuguese explorer in 1441 CE/AD.

The Spanish were the first Europeans to use African slaves in the New World on islands such as Cuba and Hispaniola.

The Atlantic slave trade peaked in the late 18th century, when the largest number of slaves were captured on raiding expeditions into the interior of West Africa. These expeditions were typically carried out by African kingdoms against weaker African tribes and peoples.

For the Atlantic slave trade, captives purchased from slave dealers in West African regions known as the Slave Coast, Gold Coast, and Côte d’Ivoire were sold into slavery as a result of a defeat in warfare. In the Bight of Biafra near modern-day Senegal and Benin, some African kings sold their captives locally and later to European slave traders for goods such as metal cookware, rum, livestock, and seed grain. Previous to the voyage, the victims were held in “slave castles” and deep pits where many died from multiple illnesses and malnutrition. Conditions were even worse in the Middle Passage across the Atlantic where up to a third of the slaves died en route.

Arabs also enslaved substantial numbers of Europeans. According to Robert Davis between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary corsairs, who were vassals of the Ottoman Empire, and sold as slaves between the 16th and 19th centuries.

The Arab slave trade from East Africa is one of the oldest slave trades, predating the European transatlantic slave trade by 700 years

The Arab slave trade originated before Islam and lasted more than a millennium. It continues today in some places. Arab traders brought Africans across the Indian Ocean from present-day Kenya, Mozambique, Tanzania, Sudan, Eritrea, western Ethiopia and elsewhere in East Africa to present-day Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Turkey and other parts of the Middle East and South Asia (mainly Pakistan and India). Unlike the trans-Atlantic slave trade to the New World, Arabs supplied African slaves to the Muslim world, which at its peak stretched over three continents from the Atlantic (Morocco, Spain) to India and eastern China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_slave_trade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery

Your defending RACE BASED AMERICAN CHATTEL SLAVERY by claiming “somebody else did it first?”
Sarah, will you next claim the Holocaust wasn’t so bad because Hitler wasn’t the first guy to use genocide?

—Cobra

Cobra said:
That’s not a fact. That’s your OPINION. Cite the evidence.
According to the 2008 Estimates:
37,131,771 African-Americans.
http://www.theroot.com/views/portrait-black-america-eve-2010-census

“huge percentage of the black population are active in dangerously violent hate groups”…c’mon–cite you facts!

I’ll HUMOR you if you consider the Nation of Islam to be a “dangerously violent hate group” (it most certainly is NOT “dangerously violent”) :
“The number of members of the Nation of Islam is believed to be between 20,000 and 50,000.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam

50,000 (maybe) out of 37 MILLION? “huge percentage?”

Where are your FACTS?

Are you claiming that Whites have NO power in the United States of America?
Are you claiming that cities, states, capitols, parks, statues, memorials and museums aren’t named after White male slave owners, slave traders and heroes of the Confederacy in this country?
Are you claiming that Whites do NOT own every major media outlet in America?
Are you claiming the White do NOT OVERWHELMINGLY control a disproportionate percentage of American Wealth?

Liberty, you want minorities to cry over a beauty pagent where non-whites are represented in a country where the entire fashion/beauty industry from Madison Ave to Hollywood is DOMINATED by the Eurocentric White Beauty propoganda?

Really?

–Cobra

Nice try, but nothing you wrote changes the facts. It’s important to live in reality.

Dem4Ever said:
Nice try, but nothing you wrote changes the facts. It’s important to live in reality.

Some of these folks didn’t take MATH in school.

How is 50,000 out of 37,131,771 a ‘huge percentage?” 1% of 37,131,771 is 371,132, so we’re talking less than 1/7th of 1% of African-Americans involved in the Nation of Islam.

Now perhaps on hate radio and Fox News, 1/7th of 1% is a staggering figure. LOL

–Cobra

writer said:
And you care why?

I’m amused by it. And you.

Cobra said:
Quick…name 5 American Muslims who have radio talk shows, cable news programs or are newspaper editors/publishers. If you CAN’T, that explains half the problem of why you aren’t hearing “nice, peaceful American Muslims.” –Cobra

It wouldn’t matter if there were more muslim radio talk show host then there are numbers on the dial because the issue is the ones that preach jihad, sharia and swear that islam will take over the USA, like the one on the radio last week and tv last month. (His name started with a ‘Could…’, something like that. But he’s just one of thousands anyway)

The point is THEY EXIST and thats what Kings hearings are about. Are you a clueless liberal, a muslim apologist or just an outright terrorist yourself?

Cobra said:
Your defending RACE BASED AMERICAN CHATTEL SLAVERY by claiming “somebody else did it first?”
Sarah, will you next claim the Holocaust wasn’t so bad because Hitler wasn’t the first guy to use genocide?

—Cobra

Where did I defend Slavery? I was pointing out the falsehood in your claim:

sarainitaly said:
Cobra said:
Bullocks. The slave trade got off the ground because Native Americans didn’t make good slaves for White Colonists.

Arabs were enslaving Africans for a millennium before the Atlantic Slave trade started. And slavery still goes on today. You are blaming it all on *whites* and American colonists.

Enslaved Africans were sold in the towns of the Muslim world. In 1416, al-Maqrizi told how pilgrims coming from Takrur (near the Sénégal River) had brought 1,700 slaves with them to Mecca. In North Africa, the main slave markets were in Morocco, Algiers, Tripoli and Cairo. Sales were held in public places or in souks. Potential buyers made a careful examination of the “merchandise”: they checked the state of health of a person who was often standing naked with wrists bound together.

RACE BASED CHATTEL SLAVERY existed long before the Atlantic Slave trade began.

Al-Jahiz also stated in his Kitab al-Bukhala (“Avarice and the Avaricious”) that:
“We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of their actions.”[55]
Jahiz’ criticism however, was limited to the Zanj and not blacks in totality, likely as a result of the Zanji revolts in his native Iraq.[55]
This sentiment was echoed in the following passage from Kitab al-Bad’ wah-tarikh (vol.4) by the medieval Arab writer Al-Muqaddasi:
As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.[55]
Al-Dimashqi (Ibn al-Nafis), the Arab polymath, also described the inhabitants of Sudan and the Zanj coast, among others, as being of “dim” intelligence and that:
…the moral characteristics found in their mentality are close to the instinctive characteristics found naturally in animals.
—Andrew Reid and Paul J. Lane, African Historical Archaeologies[56]
By the 14th century, an overwhelming number of slaves came from sub-Saharan Africa, leading to prejudice against black people in the works of several Arabic historians and geographers. For example, the Egyptian historian Al-Abshibi (1388–1446) wrote: “It is said that when the [black] slave is sated, he fornicates, when he is hungry, he steals.”

In east Africa the main slave trade involved arabized east Africans
David Livingstone wrote of the slave trade: “To overdraw its evils is a simple impossibility … We passed a slave woman shot or stabbed through the body and lying on the path. [Onlookers] said an Arab who passed early that morning had done it in anger at losing the price he had given for her, because she was unable to walk any longer. We passed a woman tied by the neck to a tree and dead … We came upon a man dead from starvation … The strangest disease I have seen in this country seems really to be broken heartedness, and it attacks free men who have been captured and made slaves.” Livingstone estimated that 80,000 Africans died each year before ever reaching the slave markets of Zanzibar.

Slavery happened long before, and is still happening today, in Africa. And with the help of Africans, who rounded them up and sold them.

First, Sarah…you don’t provide links to your quotes. Second, Native Americans DID NOT make good slaves for New World White Colonists.

“It is not known how many Indians were enslaved by the Europeans, but they certainly numbered in the tens of thousands. It is estimated that Carolina merchants operating out of Charles Town shipped an estimated 30,000 to 50,000 Indian captives between 1670 and 1715 in a profitable slave trade with the Caribbean, Spanish Hispaniola, and northern colonies. Because of the higher transportation costs of bringing blacks from Africa, whites in the northern colonies sometimes preferred Indian slaves, especially Indian women and children, to blacks. Carolina actually exported as many or even more Indian slaves than it imported enslaved Africans prior to 1720. The usual exchange rate of captive Indians for enslaved Africans was two or three Indians to one African.

Until late in the 18th century, Indian slaves worked on English plantations along side African slaves and even, occasionally, white indentured servants. Women and children frequently were used as menial laborers or domestic servants. By 1720, most whites in the southeastern British colonies preferred enslaved Africans to Indians for obvious reasons. Indians could, for one thing, more easily run away into the wilderness. Also, Europeans always feared the possibility of a coalition of enslaved Africans and enslaved Indians, aided by free Indians on the frontier. What’s more, English settlers played the Indians off against one another in the various Indian wars or wars of empire fought between European colonial powers, using them as allies or as paid mercenaries. Additionally, Europeans commonly believed that Native American men, culturally conditioned to be hunters, considered fieldwork to be women’s work, and that Indian warriors would not adapt easily to agricultural labor in comparison to enslaved Africans. Most importantly, the demand for enslaved labor in the tobacco and rice plantations came to far exceed the potential supply of Indian captives, especially once European diseases began to decimate Indian populations and once the Indians began to more effectively resist European powers.”
http://www.slaveryinamerica.org/history/hs_es_indians_slavery.htm

So I was CORRECT. The demand for African Slaves in the Western Hemisphere “got off the ground” because of supply and demand. I didn’t blame it “all on Whites”, but it damn sure wasn’t BLACK people piloting those slave ships like the “Good Ship Jesus” to Western Hemisphere.

Third, look at your OWN implied statement here:

“

sarainitaly said:
Slavery happened long before, and is still happening today, in Africa. And with the help of Africans, who rounded them up and sold them.

Slavery is occurring around the WORLD, Sarah. You’re an intelligent person. You know damn well what’s going on in Eastern Europer RIGHT NOW:

“Until reading reporter Victor Malarek’s angry book about the trafficking of women from Eastern Europe, I grasped neither the scale nor the implications of the activities that financed those Plovdiv boutiques. According to Malarek, formerly an investigative reporter at The Globe and Mail, now at W-FIVE, during the last decade, hundreds of thousands of women from Russia, Ukraine, Moldova and Romania have been sold into slavery as prostitutes.

Crime syndicates use a variety of methods to capture young women. A girl walking down a road in Moldova is forced into a car. An overflowing Romanian orphanage receives a visit from “social workers” offering “apprentice programs” for adolescent girls. A young Ukrainian woman desperate to help her starving parents responds to a newspaper advertisement for au pairs to work in Germany. An ambitious young graduate signs up with what appears to be a legitimate foreign corporation at a job fair at a Russian university.

These women are transported westward to be “broken” by being raped and beaten. In cities such as Belgrade, Yugoslavia, stunned women stand naked in secluded apartments waiting to be bought by pimps. A woman can sell for as little as $500 or as much as $10,000. After being sold, she will be locked in a room, fed one meal a day, tortured with cigarette burns to destroy her self-esteem, and forced to have sex with up to a dozen men a day, seven days a week, until exhaustion or disease wipe out her market value. The pimp makes back his investment in less than a week.

The scale of this traffic is mind-numbing. In Germany, up to half a million Eastern European women work as prostitutes. The streets of Italy are lined with Romanian and Moldovan teenagers. Other serious offenders include Greece, Turkey and South Korea, while some of the “Natashas” end up in Toronto, Chicago or Los Angeles.”
http://www.rense.com/general43/sex.htm

You knew all about this, Sarah, didn’t you? Of course you did. But you didn’t post it because it doesn’t support the “It’s-black-people’s-own-fault-they-were-enslaved-and-look-they’re-the-only-ones-still-doing-it-today” narrative.

–Cobra

Steve_27 said:
It wouldn’t matter if there were more muslim radio talk show host then there are numbers on the dial because the issue is the ones that preach jihad, sharia and swear that islam will take over the USA, like the one on the radio last week and tv last month. (His name started with a ‘Could…’, something like that. But he’s just one of thousands anyway)

The point is THEY EXIST and thats what Kings hearings are about. Are you a clueless liberal, a muslim apologist or just an outright terrorist yourself?

I don’t live my life being afraid. Look at this blog thread. You think folks like King will stop at Muslims? It’ll be Black people next.

–Cobra

We are all familiar with MSNBC censoring news for political correctness, But is especially amusing to see it happen in real time on-the-air.

This is why reasonable viewers have switched to Fox. If you want to find out what is really happening in the world, you can’t rely on the networks that censor and “purify” the stories before you get to hear them. It’s really that simple.

Cobra said:
First, Sarah…you don’t provide links to your quotes.

the links are all in the earlier post.

Cobra said:
You knew all about this, Sarah, didn’t you? Of course you did. But you didn’t post it because it doesn’t support the “It’s-black-people’s-own-fault-they-were-enslaved-and-look-they’re-the-only-ones-still-doing-it-today” narrative.

–Cobra

Of course I know slavery is happening around the world. It has happened in every civilization and culture and people, and still continues today. I thought we were discussing slave trade with Africa? Where have I every had a “it’s all the black people’s fault” attitude with slavery? My point has always been that it has happened around the world, since the beginning of time, and continues to this day.

Some people choose to overlook that fact, I am not one of those people.

Cobra said:
So I was CORRECT. The demand for African Slaves in the Western Hemisphere “got off the ground” because of supply and demand. I didn’t blame it “all on Whites”, but it damn sure wasn’t BLACK people piloting those slave ships like the “Good Ship Jesus” to Western Hemisphere.

Yes, you are correct that slave trade with the western hemisphere got off the ground because of supply and demand. Your earlier comment said “The slave trade got off the ground because Native Americans didn’t make good slaves for White Colonists.” I was pointing out that it had existed, in Africa, for a ~1000 years prior to that. And you are correct, one of the main reasons was that Indians were dying from European diseases.

Black people were not piloting the ships, but they were rounding up men, women and children from neighboring regions, and selling them into slavery. My point that they are still doing it today is that while there was a demand during the settlement of America, slave traders have continued in Africa despite there no longer being a demand in America.

It was a horrible mark in our nations history, but it is a horrible mark on the entire world, through out history, and sadly, it continues.

Cobra said:
Some of these folks didn’t take MATH in school.

How is 50,000 out of 37,131,771 a ‘huge percentage?” 1% of 37,131,771 is 371,132, so we’re talking less than 1/7th of 1% of African-Americans involved in the Nation of Islam.

Now perhaps on hate radio and Fox News, 1/7th of 1% is a staggering figure. LOL

–Cobra

Your math is wrong. Nice try though. Facts are facts.

I think it would have been great to investigate the mafia by holding hearings on all Italians , and questioning Catholic churches in Italian neighborhoods. I’m pretty sure that would have encouraged patriotism and cooperation among Italian Americans.

what a freaking stupid idea. Hey if ya’ll believe that crap about Muslims being taught to lie to infidels as part of Muslim doctrine, then what the hell good will King’s public hearings do?

Cobra said:
I don’t live my life being afraid. Look at this blog thread. You think folks like King will stop at Muslims? It’ll be Black people next. –Cobra

If everyone jumping out of world trade center windows thought like you, it wouldn’t have been too bad, not even a tragedy.

CosmosDan said:
King talks about the NYC bomb scare. Does he mention that it was Muslims that helped uncover that plot.

He wants to hold hearings for the guy trying to blow things up. Not for the one that dropped a dime (if true).

DUUHHHH!!

Liberalism 101: Blacks can never be racist.

Michelle Obama’s Food Police.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/2011/03/michelle-obamas-food-police.html

sarainitaly said:
Of course I know slavery is happening around the world. It has happened in every civilization and culture and people, and still continues today. I thought we were discussing slave trade with Africa? Where have I every had a “it’s all the black people’s fault” attitude with slavery? My point has always been that it has happened around the world, since the beginning of time, and continues to this day.

Some people choose to overlook that fact, I am not one of those people.

You may not choose to “overlook” it, but you sure chose not to MENTION it in your dissertation. Second, I talked about Whites grouping together and hating MINORITIES. As you yourself admit, Whites in America enslaved Native Americans as well. How does what Africans do or did JUSTIFY what White Americans did to the indigenous people in this land?

sarainitaly said:
Yes, you are correct that slave trade with the western hemisphere got off the ground because of supply and demand. Your earlier comment said “The slave trade got off the ground because Native Americans didn’t make good slaves for White Colonists.” I was pointing out that it had existed, in Africa, for a ~1000 years prior to that. And you are correct, one of the main reasons was that Indians were dying from European diseases.

Ok, we have grounds of agreement. My question is why you didn’t volunteer this information earlier in the thread in response to:

illusive man said:
Just remember that the slave trade was only able to get off the ground because of native african black’s that sold out there own race for a price.

…which YOU YOURSELF stated is wrong on the facts? Why do you let Illusive man off the hook? Is it because he’s on the conservative side in this argument?

sarainitaly said:
Black people were not piloting the ships, but they were rounding up men, women and children from neighboring regions, and selling them into slavery. My point that they are still doing it today is that while there was a demand during the settlement of America, slave traders have continued in Africa despite there no longer being a demand in America.

What do you mean there’s no demand in America for slave labor? Of course there is. It’s just now illegal. So what do American manufacturers do to find the cheapest labor source they can exploit?

They outsource to countries like China, Cambodia or Vietnam where the working conditions in many cases damn near RESEMBLE slavery.

Why are conservatives trying to abolish the mimimum wage?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43474.html
Why are conservatives trying to abolish child labor laws?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/17/gop-senator-calls-federal-laws-child-labor-unconstitutional/

Why, Sarah?

–Cobra

Speaking of stories MSNBC will fail to notice:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1364626/Up-28-men-boys-filmed-gang-rape-11-year-old-girl-mobile-phones-Cleveland-Texas-Cleveland-high-school.html

Normally one would think the gang rape of an 11-year-old girl by up to 28 men and teen-age boys would merit some national media attention.

Cobra,

You are seeing the bogeyman. He isn’t real. He isn’t in your closet and he isn’t a conservative. Most of the things you believe are not true. Just like you injected your own false conceptions on Sarah’s words, you also are simply wrong about what conser vatives think and believe. I suggest you stop reading the leftwing sites for a bit. Read what conservatives actually SAY and write. Learn about those who believe different from yourself. Get to know someone who is a Republican. Your world will not be so narrow.

Kathleen McKinley said:
Cobra,

You are seeing the bogeyman. He isn’t real. He isn’t in your closet and he isn’t a conservative. Most of the things you believe are not true. Just like you injected your own false conceptions on Sarah’s words, you also are simply wrong about what conser vatives think and believe. I suggest you stop reading the leftwing sites for a bit. Read what conservatives actually SAY and write. Learn about those who believe different from yourself. Get to know someone who is a Republican. Your world will not be so narrow.

Kathleen,

Please allow me to introduce myself. I’m a guy who grew up around conservatives. There are conservatives all around me. I do business with conservatives. I socialize with conservatives. There are conservatives on the radio 24/7. There are conservatives on Fox News 24/7. The governor of my state is a conservative. This blog is burst ripe with conservative posters.
Respectfully, for you to suggest that I haven’t heard or what conservatives “say” or read what they “write”, is hysterically funny. I simply and categorically DISAGREE with conservative ideology on a wide array of subjects.

Given that…what is your idea of the “conservative” viewpoint on the subject myself and Sarah are discussing?

–Cobra

My oh my, is this getting personal, sounds like folks here belong to some of these hate groups.

So lets look at the list 1 out of 6 is not a right wing hate group, So There, Mr. America! There are hate groups on the liberal side too. What? The Nation of Islam, the only group that the Southern Poverty group mentions as Black Separatist, isn’t a liberal organization! Well, they’re not Right Wing, that’s for sure!

That’s right that group listed as Black Separatist on the chart don’t want to belong to the left or right, they want the truly impossible, a country for themselves. Well that’s their views, but the real issue is where are the Muslim hate groups in America? Oh, someone here said they’re on the radio, must be talking code so that the rest of us can’t hear them.

We’ve got more hate going on in our churches around the country plotting to kill doctors, and planning strategies to forbid Americans their Rights as granted under the constitution. To Quote our Tea Party Patriots “Our Forefathers knew what was right!” and they wrote as The First Amendment which reads “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ….”, while Article VI specifies that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” But, these churches are prohibiting muslim’s their First Amendment right of free exercise.

We now have going on in Congress a witch hunt with Rep. Peter King (R-NY) seeking out these muslim radicals. After all who better to lead this than the Congressman who publicly stated “there are too many mosques in America!” America has become a country of hate and the restriction of rights. All started in the Name of 9-11, there has never at any time in America been more spying of Americans by Americans, taping of phones of Americans by Americans and who knows what else has been going on under the clock of National Security.

felixw said:
We are all familiar with MSNBC censoring news for political correctness, But is especially amusing to see it happen in real time on-the-air.

This is why reasonable viewers have switched to Fox. If you want to find out what is really happening in the world, you can’t rely on the networks that censor and “purify” the stories before you get to hear them. It’s really that simple.

hehehehehe!

you make DUBYA laugh by saying “REASONABLE PEOPLE HAVE SWITCHED TO FOX”… FOX?! the FAKEWORK THAT LIES??? the FAKEWORK that went to an appeals court to overturn a fair ruling by the people to get the right to lie to it’s viewers? “REASONABLE” people are tuning into the most distrusted fakework that exists?

HEHEHEHE! you WINGNUTS make DUBYA laugh!!

PSEUDO-PATRIOT CHALLENGE –
FOX NEWS INTENTIONALLY LIES ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT!

“Appellate Court Rules Media Can Legally Lie” (WHOOPS!)
http://www.rense.com/general35/MEDIA.HTM
Can you explain why you keep going back to drink from a fountain of LIES when fox is the ONLY FAKEWORK to go to an appeals court to overturn a fair ruling by the people to get the “OK” to LIE & DISTORT NEWS? Please take a minute to stop spreading your DISHONES-TEA & INSANI-TEA & explain this matter of public record. Real Americans, like me, would like to understand your treason.

you know who else LIED to the people to get what he wanted? GLENN BECK’s poster boy bogey-man, HITLER!

“The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.” — Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

LOOK FAMILIAR? A recent German magazine ran an article saying Goebbels would be “proud” of the misinformation & propaganda being disseminated by FOX. Shouldn’t this clue you in?

If you can explain THIS ^ to me, giving me a truthful, factual, logical, reason as to “WHY” you knowingly drink from the fox fountain of lies, I will give you my vote next election. I will vote straight GOP, how’s that for a deal? Even for the office of the president! I’ve been offering this for months & can you believe not a single person has taken me up on my offer? I wonder why that is…?

“You’re not to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”~ Malcolm X

if you can’t respond to this simple question HONESTLY, then it’s clear you don’t have a legitimate platform to be espousing your insanity!

BAGGER PLEASE!

to be clear, it’s “YOU” who has no credibility here. everything i shared is a matter of public record; if you don’t acknowledge this REALITY then we can all conclude “YOU” are either DISHONEST or CRAZY.

either way, nothing you say has any credibility or voracity

oh & one more thing, studies prove that the MSNBC audience is the most informed on the facts…

sucks to be you Faux Ewes Sheeple! :)

Kathleen McKinley said:
Why are conservatives trying to abolish the mimimum wage?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43474.html
Why are conservatives trying to abolish child labor laws?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/17/gop-senator-calls-federal-laws-child-labor-unconstitutional/

DUBYA reads the things you racists say here & it paints you in an even MORE unfavorable light than “REAL” Media news articles do…

get it straight SHEEPLE, there is no ‘LEFT-WING” media – just media that reports the truth & your FAKE WORK FOX. (FAUX ‘EWES’)

Steve_27 said:
If everyone jumping out of world trade center windows thought like you, it wouldn’t have been too bad, not even a tragedy.

whomever you really are hiding behind your computer screen to *spew* such ugly vitriol…

you’re a mentally deranged hateful racist piece of sh!t ‘Steve’…

DUBYA is NOT amused my BIGOTS LIKE YOU.

The only thing that matters is who comprise the majority of victims of another racial group. The rest is just talk. The KKK is 99% talk. They rarely attack anyone because if they did, it would be screaming headlines on the NYT.

let-me-explainify... said:
whomever you really are hiding behind your computer screen to *spew* such ugly vitriol… you’re a mentally deranged hateful racist piece of sh!t ‘Steve’… DUBYA is NOT amused my BIGOTS LIKE YOU.

Look at it this way: There are those who believe we deserve what we get or even outright hope we lose. Understand this, when terror strikes again, lets say a nice train bombing, in the perfect world only the those people would evaporate in a cloud of dust or wind up laying there screaming “Where’s my legs!” or “How could this happen?”

But it’s not a perfect world. So when such attacks happen, i’m lying there next to you or jumping from the window next to you. Thats why i’m irate and pissed. Being a bigot has nothing to do with it! I guarntee you, if it were you lying there legless you would all of a sudden come to realize that hearings, searching bags before entering the train, wire tapping, everything you probably cursed and got angry at would all of a sudden seem like the thing we should have been doing.

Thats why I lose my patience very quickley with you people over this subject. Your like little children that need to be led by the hand but yet you carry a vote and a voice of an adult. Basicaly, F— You!

Steve_27 said:
Look at it this way: There are those who believe we deserve what we get or even outright hope we lose. Understand this, when terror strikes again, lets say a nice train bombing, in the perfect world only the those people would evaporate in a cloud of dust or wind up laying there screaming “Where’s my legs!” or “How could this happen?”

But it’s not a perfect world. So when such attacks happen, i’m lying there next to you or jumping from the window next to you. Thats why i’m irate and pissed. Being a bigot has nothing to do with it! I guarntee you, if it were you lying there legless you would all of a sudden come to realize that hearings, searching bags before entering the train, wire tapping, everything you probably cursed and got angry at would all of a sudden seem like the thing we should have been doing.

Thats why I lose my patience very quickley with you people over this subject. Your like little children that need to be led by the hand but yet you carry a vote and a voice of an adult. Basicaly, F— You!

The odds of being killed by a stranger with a gun:
1 in 25,000
http://mcgonigle.us/bill/blog/gun-crime-statistics

The odds of you being killed by a meteorite or asteroid impact on the planet:
1 in 700,000
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meteor-Threat-Larger-Than-Terrorist-Threat-95703.shtml

The odds of you being killed by a terrorist attack in America:
1 in 30,000,000
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/duplicates/eu1ho/the_odds_of_being_killed_from_a_terrorist_attack/

Steve, are you in favor of hearings on gun control and asteroid impact prevention?

–Cobra

FACT THE NATION OF ISLAM WAS FOUNDED BY A WHITE MAN—WHO FELT BLACKS WERE TREATED UNFAIRLY AND WANTEDD TO HELP BLACKS BECOME BETTER THAN THEN THEIR STEROTYPES….CE THERE ARE NO BLACK PEOPLE THAT WANT TO EXCLUDE THEMSELVES FROM WHITE PEOPLE UNLESS THEY ARE IN THE MENTAL INSTITUTIONS —CENK CANNOT RESEARCH SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST…GET IT RIGHT IGNORANT SHAME IS NO LONGER AN EXCUSE

Cobra said:
The odds of being killed by a stranger with a gun:1 in 25,000http://mcgonigle.us/bill/blog/gun-crime-statistics The odds of you being killed by a meteorite or asteroid impact on the planet:1 in 700,000http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meteor-Threat-Larger-Than-Terrorist-Threat-95703.shtml The odds of you being killed by a terrorist attack in America:1 in 30,000,000http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/duplicates/eu1ho/the_odds_of_being_killed_from_a_terrorist_attack/ Steve, are you in favor of hearings on gun control and asteroid impact prevention? –Cobra

All the odds and similar examples in the world wouldn’t make a difference because NOTHING matters till it happens to you or a loved one. And it’s hard to tolerate letting it happen when I KNOW you would see it our way only AFTER disaster struck.

Now if atrocities were happening I would be understanding of “This isn’t our countries way” arguments. But thats not happening. Not only is that not happening but all we’re seeing here is basic police type work to spread information, learn more, show the enemy we’re on it and trying to prevent what we know HAS BEEN HAPPENING! Do you get that last part in bold print? It’s important that you do.

This enemy does not let you know who they are until they’re slitting your pilots throat and taking over your cockpit. That means that on Sept 10th 2001 you would have been defending Atta as some “victim” of Kings hearings. I have a hard time believing, you or any other lib cant see this. I feel you just dont care because 1, we deserve it because we are wrong and 2, your not personally concerned because of the stats you yourself post here.

I feel thats just how you people think: “I dont care cause I have a better chance of getting hit by a meteorite.” And “I would understand an attack on us because we ‘shouldn’t have done this’ or ‘gone there.’”

When you see that this is how I think you see this, cant you honestly understand how “F— you liberal scumbag” might cross my mind?

And lastly, the meteor/terrorist comparison is flatly false. You could know that without even opening these links.

let-me-explainify... said:
hehehehehe! you make DUBYA laugh by saying “REASONABLE PEOPLE HAVE SWITCHED TO FOX”… FOX?! the FAKEWORK THAT LIES??? the FAKEWORK that went to an appeals court to overturn a fair ruling by the people to get the right to lie to it’s viewers? “REASONABLE” people are tuning into the most distrusted fakework that exists? HEHEHEHE! you WINGNUTS make DUBYA laugh!! PSEUDO-PATRIOT CHALLENGE –FOX NEWS INTENTIONALLY LIES ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT! “Appellate Court Rules Media Can Legally Lie” (WHOOPS!)http://www.rense.com/general35/MEDIA.HTMCan you explain why you keep going back to drink from a fountain of LIES when fox is the ONLY FAKEWORK to go to an appeals court to overturn a fair ruling by the people to get the “OK” to LIE & DISTORT NEWS? Please take a minute to stop spreading your DISHONES-TEA & INSANI-TEA & explain this matter of public record. Real Americans, like me, would like to understand your treason. you know who else LIED to the people to get what he wanted? GLENN BECK’s poster boy bogey-man, HITLER! “The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.” — Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister LOOK FAMILIAR? A recent German magazine ran an article saying Goebbels would be “proud” of the misinformation & propaganda being disseminated by FOX. Shouldn’t this clue you in? If you can explain THIS ^ to me, giving me a truthful, factual, logical, reason as to “WHY” you knowingly drink from the fox fountain of lies, I will give you my vote next election. I will vote straight GOP, how’s that for a deal? Even for the office of the president! I’ve been offering this for months & can you believe not a single person has taken me up on my offer? I wonder why that is…? “You’re not to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”~ Malcolm X if you can’t respond to this simple question HONESTLY, then it’s clear you don’t have a legitimate platform to be espousing your insanity! BAGGER PLEASE! to be clear, it’s “YOU” who has no credibility here. everything i shared is a matter of public record; if you don’t acknowledge this REALITY then we can all conclude “YOU” are either DISHONEST or CRAZY. either way, nothing you say has any credibility or voracity oh & one more thing, studies prove that the MSNBC audience is the most informed on the facts… sucks to be you Faux Ewes Sheeple! :)

We’re coming up on three years since he’s been gone. You do know they have medication for BDS. It’s probably too late judging by your rambling but maybe you haven’t hurt anyone yet so maybe you should go seek help? I dunno, but up to you either way. Get help. This is sad to watch.

Steve_27 said:
All the odds and similar examples in the world wouldn’t make a difference because NOTHING matters till it happens to you or a loved one. And it’s hard to tolerate letting it happen when I KNOW you would see it our way only AFTER disaster struck.

Steve you can say that about ANY crime.

Steve_27 said:
Now if atrocities were happening I would be understanding of “This isn’t our countries way” arguments. But thats not happening. Not only is that not happening but all we’re seeing here is basic police type work to spread information, learn more, show the enemy we’re on it and trying to prevent what we know HAS BEEN HAPPENING! Do you get that last part in bold print? It’s important that you do.

It never STARTS with atrocities. It starts with propaganda campaigns, hearings and tribunals where ONE group is singled out for scrutiny and criticism apart from others.

Steve_27 said:
This enemy does not let you know who they are until they’re slitting your pilots throat and taking over your cockpit. That means that on Sept 10th 2001 you would have been defending Atta as some “victim” of Kings hearings. I have a hard time believing, you or any other lib cant see this. I feel you just dont care because 1, we deserve it because we are wrong and 2, your not personally concerned because of the stats you yourself post here.

Nonsense. There were photos out of every single hijacker HOURS after the September 11, 2001 attacks. There were people TRACKING them. The government had warnings about potential attacks using airplanes.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/index.htm
Plus there a common sense factor, Steve. You know what “blowback” is, right? If you slap somebody in the face, that person is going to remember and want payback. It might not happen immediately, but down the road. More than one member of the intelligence community knew something was coming, though without specifics.

Steve_27 said:
I feel thats just how you people think: “I dont care cause I have a better chance of getting hit by a meteorite.” And “I would understand an attack on us because we ’shouldn’t have done this’ or ‘gone there.’”

When you see that this is how I think you see this, cant you honestly understand how “F— you liberal scumbag” might cross my mind?

It’s exactly the reason why I feel the way I do. I’m a minority in this country, which means at any given moment, I can (and have) been the recipient of selective racial profiling. During the 50′s and 60′s the government hounded civil rights marchers accusing them of being “communist sympathizers”. Before that they went after Japanese-Americans, throwing them into internment camps. They went after the Irish, Italians, Chinese, etc.
Scapegoating, profiling and demonization is rife throughout this country’s history, and I believe this witch-hunt by King is no different.

–Cobra

Don’t lump all of MSNBC in with this guy. He’s a pathetic moron from You Tube, any halfwit can tell you this guy’s as knowledgeable as the stool he lays every morning. MSNBC does have quite a few worth while commentators, one fewer now that Olberman left. 

What a worthless no nothing, I cannot STAND that SOB.