The budget is crap anyway, why do you guys want to send grandma and grandpa to early grave. The healthcare voucher is definitely not sufficient to fund their medication.

“You know what, we may have disagreement about his, but this is not what we’re worried about. We’re not worried about the gay family next door.”

Did Obama just call Jesse Jackson old and obsolete?

BadGenome said:
“You know what, we may have disagreement about his, but this is not what we’re worried about. We’re not worried about the gay family next door.”

Did Obama just call Jesse Jackson old and obsolete?

I think you did, well done.

Yes, the president is STUPID. He thinks the American people are stupid. He is a LIAR and a fraud. It is NOW time to quit playing with this loser.

gordonbloyershow said:
He thinks the American people are stupid.

In his defense, they kind of made his case by voting for him.

That is the guy I voted for!

BadGenome said:
“You know what, we may have disagreement about his, but this is not what we’re worried about. We’re not worried about the gay family next door.” Did Obama just call Jesse Jackson old and obsolete?

BURN.

This is fraudulant story!!! The open mic “slip” was intentional to make the Friday news!!! Does the media think we are THAT stupid? Either the reporter was “in” on the sceme with the Committee to Re-Elect or the reporter was duped by the Committee to Re-Elect. Come on reporters! Have more respect for your audience. We are not buying this story.

This President eats every other politician for breakfast.

gordonbloyershow said:
He thinks the American people are stupid.

BadGenome said:
In his defense, they kind of made his case by voting for him.

Color Me Badd said:
That is the guy I voted for!

that was epic! lol

You go, President Obama….Way to stand up and say what you believe to be true!! Let’s see more of it, you have taken plenty from these fools, show them what you’ve got!!!

i think he just destroyed paul ryan

It’s time to get tough with these GOP douchebags, Mr. President. Get rid of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and tell republicans who bitch about it to just go and fcuk themselves! Take care of the 98% of us who are middle class and poor.

TampopoLoco said:
Take care of the 98% of us who are middle class and poor.

Hello, leech. Do you enjoy being an incompetent loser? Does Barack look like your Daddy?

gordonbloyershow said:
It is NOW time to quit playing with this loser.

We stop playing with you awhile ago.

TampopoLoco said:
It’s time to get tough with these GOP douchebags, Mr. President. Get rid of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and tell republicans who bitch about it to just go and fcuk themselves! Take care of the 98% of us who are middle class and poor.

feed me seymour!!

Pablo said:
Hello, leech. Do you enjoy being an incompetent loser? Does Barack look like your Daddy?

You sound like a spokesperson for the Koch Brothers, or another billionaire that uses useful idiots to spread their message. Are you one of those who also think one day, maybe just one day they might be a millionaires, hence you don’t want the tax reform.

What a jerk.

skyfet said:
You sound like a spokesperson for the Koch Brothers, or another billionaire that uses useful idiots to spread their message. Are you one of those who also think one day, maybe just one day they might be a millionaires, hence you don’t want the tax reform.

I’m one of those who doesn’t need or want the government wiping my ass or yours. And I’m all for tax reform. But Obama isn’t talking about Tax reform. Does he look like your Daddy?

Ah….our Child-In-Chief speaks.

If you’re wondering why the Republicans aren’t decllaring just yet, you have your answer. Let Obama keep on making childish statements while thinking he has the election sewn up.

He’ll self destruct through his own hyper inflated ego and arrogance. Then a Republican candidate (or a dark horse democratice challenger) will mop the floor with him using his own idiotic words.

BadGenome said:
In his defense, they kind of made his case by voting for him.

I blame the complicity of a compliant media…

Pablo said:
I’m one of those who doesn’t need or want the government wiping my ass or yours. And I’m all for tax reform. But Obama isn’t talking about Tax reform. Does he look like your Daddy?

Well they should, what kind of tax system allows GE to take a contract in America, build the product cheaply in a foreign country, then claims the profit was made abroad, while transferring their failed accounts to the US. It’s madness, what kind of tax loophole allows exonmibile and GE receive tax benefits in billions of dollars while paying little or no taxes at all.

Now watch the MSM and MSNBC tonight, telling us how great our president is. Refusing to bust the budget to spend money we don’t have on his healthcare bill is “nickel and diming” him. If we do not stop this man, he will ruin the future for our kids and grandkids. The idea that government spending is necessary to create jobs is a Democrat lie. Let the private sector create jobs. And the healthcare bill will cost money instead of saving it. It reminds of these fools who invest in computer systems with the idea that it will make them money. They have yet to invent a computer that has made a nickel. People, ideas and hard work make money. Politicians like Obama and the Dems SPEND IT.

Pablo said:
I’m one of those who doesn’t need or want the government wiping my ass or yours. And I’m all for tax reform. But Obama isn’t talking about Tax reform. Does he look like your Daddy?

Why do you phonies think that anyone asking for fairness in how the country’s wealth is managed is on the Govt dole? Are you that uptight?

Pablo said:
Hello, leech. Do you enjoy being an incompetent loser? Does Barack look like your Daddy?

Fcuk you ass muncher!

BadGenome said:
In his defense, they kind of made his case by voting for him.

That would fit in when describing W in 04. I couldn’t believe they won, but hey bashing the gays seem to be a good strategy for Rove and the rest of the crazies.

Ryan put a budget plan on paper…
POTUS, if you disagree, put your budget on paper and let the people decide…
Obama demagoguery of Paul Ryan is Marxist thug behavior of the most sinister kind…
And what is more pathetic, is that he is doing it for a base that is eating it up!

Pablo said:
I’m one of those who doesn’t need or want the government wiping my ass or yours.

Yeah, you strike me a rugged individualist, Pablo. I’m sure that when your social security checks start arriving, you’ll send them back. And when the tumors starting accruing in old age, you’ll refuse any treatment you can’t pay for out of your pocket. You’ll ain’t fooling nobody, Jeremiah Johnson.

TampopoLoco said:
Fcuk you ass muncher!

Obama’s base electorate…

skyfet said:
Why do you phonies think that anyone asking for fairness in how the country’s wealth is managed is on the Govt dole? Are you that uptight?

a country doesn’t have wealth, its citizens do. well, the ones that aren’t losers…

The Dweller Ysul said:
Yeah, you strike me a rugged individualist, Pablo. I’m sure that when your social security checks start arriving, you’ll send them back. And when the tumors starting accruing in old age, you’ll refuse any treatment you can’t pay for out of your pocket. You’ll ain’t fooling nobody, Jeremiah Johnson.

you have to pay into the system. he’s recouping funds the govt confiscated from him.

The true irony,
If Obama gets his way SS, Medicare, Medicaid will become insolvent and cease to exist…
But that is Liberalism; thought stops at the good intention…

gordonbloyershow said:
Yes, the president is STUPID. He thinks the American people are stupid. He is a LIAR and a fraud. It is NOW time to quit playing with this loser.

no sir youre incorrect…Obama just said what us dems were wishing he would say in public…..he feels you regressive ass repukes got nothing to offer and hes up for the challenge….All you have to look forward too in 2012 is a good old fashioned chicago style backhand smakdown from Obama….better wear helmet wingnut….this is gonna hurt….he laughs in the faces of you dumbass birthers…….let me make it simple for your ignorant ass….Obama is telling you to in the nicest of terms possible to KISS HIS BLACK ASS….NOW PUCKER UP FOOL

skoorbekim said:
Obama’s base electorate…

Make the world a better place. Punch a Republican in the face.

I agree with Donna K:

“You go, President Obama….Way to stand up and say what you believe to be true!! Let’s see more of it, you have taken plenty from these fools, show them what you’ve got!!!”

Oh, yes, please do. Show us what you got. If you had shown us what you got ythe first time around instead of what you wanted us to believe you had you would never have even gotten the nomination.

So….yeah. Show us what you got.

Please.

Way to be “the uniter” Obama! See ya in ’12!

TampopoLoco said:
Make the world a better place. Punch a Republican in the face.

It would take balls to do that and you have none, nada, zilch.

Wait, I’m confused.

Yesterday he was a hero because he was man enough to say nasty things to Ryan in public and to his face. Today, he’s a hero because he was man enough to say nasty things to Ryan in private and without Ryan there.

I’m seeing a lot of hero worship, but not a lot of consistency. So which is it?

TampopoLoco said:
Make the world a better place. Punch a Republican in the face.

Tampon,
Go back to the Demcratic Underground…
I don’t think you Liberal wanna-be thugs have the guts to punch anyone in the face…

jdubbellu said:
a country doesn’t have wealth, its citizens do. well, the ones that aren’t losers…

I bet all the basic amenities the Govt provide comes in free of charge, if these were not present, there would be no business. Why don’t you ask those who are in the third world?

Yea baby. Nice, Mr. President.

Obama does have a very good point about Ryan. Ryan voted for these wars, and their war spending bills, as well as the bill to extend tax cuts.”

That’s an excellent point. What is obviously left out of this discusion is the fact that Obama voted to extend the Bush tax cuts as well.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20026069-503544.html

President Obama also signed war funding bill in 2010:
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0710/073010cdam1.htm

As a Senator he voted to fund the wars as well.

This point by President Obama is a fair point. Ryan and Obama are both hypocrites. You know who voted against these bills though – Ron Paul.

ImNotBlue said:
Wait, I’m confused.

Yesterday he was a hero because he was man enough to say nasty things to Ryan in public and to his face. Today, he’s a hero because he was man enough to say nasty things to Ryan in private and without Ryan there.

I’m seeing a lot of hero worship, but not a lot of consistency. So which is it?

Maybe you are confused because no where in this post was he called a hero? Or maybe you’re simply making a classic straw-man argument comprised of imagined commentary? That sounds more like it.

The Dweller Ysul said:
Yeah, you strike me a rugged individualist, Pablo. I’m sure that when your social security checks start arriving, you’ll send them back. .

I’m not expecting them, though I’m still paying for them. Color me unmoved by your suppositions.

And when the tumors starting accruing in old age, you’ll refuse any treatment you can’t pay for out of your pocket. You’ll ain’t fooling nobody, Jeremiah Johnson

Which, I’m also still paying for Medicaid, by the way. And I support Ryan’s roadmap. Try recalculating.

ProObamaAgenda said:
Obama is telling you to in the nicest of terms possible to KISS HIS BLACK ASS….NOW PUCKER UP FOOL

Very presidential, that. Come on 2012!

More Liberty5 said:
This point by President Obama is a fair point. Ryan and Obama are both hypocrites. You know who voted against these bills though – Ron Paul.

Let’s not muddy the waters too much…

TampopoLoco said:
Make the world a better place. Punch a Republican in the face.

lol

skyfet said:
I bet all the basic amenities the Govt provide comes in free of charge, if these were not present, there would be no business. Why don’t you ask those who are in the third world?

You mean third-world nations like Cuba?

Stop with the ignorant attacks. No one is saying that the government should not fund constitutional mandated items like defense, the regulation of trade, to coin money, and etc. The “basic amenities” are spelled out in the US Constitution.

Both you repubs/ dims continue to ignore reality.

skoorbekim said:
Let’s not muddy the waters too much…

I’m just being honest. The idiot Obama and the idiot Ryan are fairly similar. Ryan wasn’t crying when Bush was stacking the debt, but Obama sure was. But of course Obama claims that was simply “political” as he currently stacks the debt and puts my great grand children in debt when they aren’t even alive.

Obama,
What happened to the promise you made to Christina Taylor Green in Tucson?

skyfet said:
Why do you phonies think that anyone asking for fairness in how the country’s wealth is managed is on the Govt dole?

I didn’t say that. But now that you mention it, “fairness in how the country’s wealth is managed” means when the government takes other people’s wealth and passes it around. You got your hand out, sky?

More Liberty5 said:
the idiot Ryan are fairly similar.

I could disagree with you more… respectfully of course…

skoorbekim said:
Obama,
What happened to the promise you made to Christina Taylor Green in Tucson?

He is telling her in the nicest terms possible to KISS HIS BLACK ASS.

skoorbekim said:
Obama demagoguery of Paul Ryan is Marxist thug behavior of the most sinister kind…
And what is more pathetic, is that he is doing it for a base that is eating it up!

Your posts read like you’re just randomly stringing Fox News vocabulary words together.

I sometimes wonder what the right wing would say if it weren’t for Fox News, could the right-wing even exist without Fox?

skoorbekim asks:

“Obama,
What happened to the promise you made to Christina Taylor Green in Tucson?”

As someone once said……Words. Just words.

I wonder who that was. Oh, wait…….

jdubbellu said:
you have to pay into the system. he’s recouping funds the govt confiscated from him.

Everyone pays into the system, jdub. So where does our hispanic brother get off calling anyone a “leech”?

Look, the real point that the Randian retards don’t get about taxation is that if you take all taxes paid, federal, state, local, sales, income, SSI, property, etc., etc., just about everyone in the US pays about 19% of their income in taxes. Our taxation system is nowhere near progressive, but it’s hard for most people to figure this out because of all the commotion created by the Pablos of the world squealing like little girls with skinned knees about the income taxes being paid by the superwealthy (and calling everyone else–without having any idea how hard many, many Americans–”leeches.”

BadGenome said:
He is telling her in the nicest terms possible to KISS HIS BLACK ASS.

Bad Genome knows a thing or two about the black male posterior.

That should read, of course: …”without having any idea how hard many, many Americans WORK–’leaches.’”

Snowspot said:
Bad Genome knows a thing or two about the black male posterior.

Only what you’ve told me about them, but it was quite exhaustive. Thanks again!

The Dweller Ysul said:
So where does our hispanic brother get off calling anyone a “leech”?

Anyone who wants the government to do for them (with the fruit of others’ labor) what they ought to be doing for themselves (with the fruit of their own labor) is a leech. A moocher. A looter. A parasite.

Any more questions?

More Liberty5 said:
Obama does have a very good point about Ryan. Ryan voted for these wars, and their war spending bills, as well as the bill to extend tax cuts.”
That’s an excellent point. What is obviously left out of this discusion is the fact that Obama voted to extend the Bush tax cuts as well.

Why does that matter. It is not Obama who is playing the hypocrite, but Ryan.

The Dweller Ysul said:
Everyone pays into the system, jdub. So where does our hispanic brother get off calling anyone a “leech”?

Look, the real point that the Randian retards don’t get about taxation is that if you take all taxes paid, federal, state, local, sales, income, SSI, property, etc., etc., just about everyone in the US pays about 19% of their income in taxes. Our taxation system is nowhere near progressive, but it’s hard for most people to figure this out because of all the commotion created by the Pablos of the world squealing like little girls with skinned knees about the income taxes being paid by the superwealthy (and calling everyone else–without having any idea how hard many, many Americans–”leeches.”

I’m not saying you are a liar, but I’d like to see where you got that number.

Colby Hall says:
April 15, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Mediaite Staff

Maybe you are confused because no where in this post was he called a hero? Or maybe you’re simply making a classic straw-man argument comprised of imagined commentary? That sounds more like it.

There is a third choice, Colby… that I wasn’t actually addressing YOU as the source of the “hero” worship. Perhaps you should read some of the previous comments if you want to understand better.

Either that, or remember to respond under one of your “poster” names.

Or better yet, tell me why you chose to address my post with such hostility and snark, but the post:

TampopoLoco says:
April 15, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Make the world a better place. Punch a Republican in the face.

Didn’t cause you at bat an eyelash.

Tell us honestly, Colby… do you really think you’re good at this job, or just good a mocking journalism enough to get a passing grade, while spending the rest of your time advancing your political goals? Wanna figure out which one I think it is?

Ysul, what makes you think I don’t know how hard Americans work? I am a hard working American. I was raised by hard working Americans. The vast majority of my neighbors are, or were, hard working Americans. I work with hard working Americans. This is not one of them.

valkyrie101 said:
Why does that matter. It is not Obama who is playing the hypocrite, but Ryan.

Are you serious? Obama just whined about extending the Bush tax cuts the other day in his speech….but guess what. He signed the Bill, look at the link I provided. He has also complained, and rightfully so, about the war funding. But guess what…he as a President and a Senator signed war funding bill.

Why are you even backing these crooks up?

ImNotBlue said:
Tell us honestly, Colby… do you really think you’re good at this job, or just good a mocking journalism enough to get a passing grade, while spending the rest of your time advancing your political goals? Wanna figure out which one I think it is?

LOL.

mmars said:
This is fraudulant story!!! The open mic “slip” was intentional to make the Friday news!!! Does the media think we are THAT stupid? Either the reporter was “in” on the sceme with the Committee to Re-Elect or the reporter was duped by the Committee to Re-Elect. Come on reporters! Have more respect for your audience. We are not buying this story.

Amen! My thoughts exactly from the moment I heard this story. How convenient that POTUS is “caught” by a “hot mic” when he has an image problem regarding toughness; while running for re-election; and knowing how this would appeal to his base. David Plouffe was under the table with the “hot mic” the whole time then leaked it to the media.

Pablo said:
Which, I’m also still paying for Medicaid, by the way.

Pablo said:
I’m not expecting them, though I’m still paying for them. Color me unmoved by your suppositions.

Please, Pablo, everyone who has a job pays, and every senior now receiving SS and Medicare paid, for both. The person making the supposition is you, that everyone who believes in the social contract is a mooch.

Pablo said:
Very presidential, that. Come on 2012!

im not president dumbass……maybe you think i am…..but i read Obamas mind. “Its A Black Thang, You Dont Understand It”….now like i said….KISS OBAMAS BLACK ASS FOOL

ProObamaAgenda said:
im not president dumbass……maybe you think i am…..but i read Obamas mind. “Its A Black Thang, You Dont Understand It”….now like i said….KISS OBAMAS BLACK ASS FOOL

@Snowspot: This is not an opening for you to tell me about black “thangs” now, you do understand?

Pablo said:
Anyone who wants the government to do for them (with the fruit of others’ labor) what they ought to be doing for themselves (with the fruit of their own labor) is a leech. A moocher. A looter. A parasite. Any more questions?

Yes, the lack of jobs is entirely the fault of the U.S. workers. If they were not such deadbeats, they would be packin’ off for China where they moved all the jobs.

The Dweller Ysul said:
Please, Pablo, everyone who has a job pays, and every senior now receiving SS and Medicare paid, for both. The person making the supposition is you, that everyone who believes in the social contract is a mooch.

I’m making suppositions? And you suppose that based on a belief I have not espoused? And what the hell is this?

The Dweller Ysul said:
Yeah, you strike me a rugged individualist, Pablo. I’m sure that when your social security checks start arriving, you’ll send them back. And when the tumors starting accruing in old age, you’ll refuse any treatment you can’t pay for out of your pocket. You’ll ain’t fooling nobody, Jeremiah Johnson.

You’ll have to do better than that, Ysul.

That’s a lovely non-sequitur you’ve got there, valk.

ProObamaAgenda said:
im not president dumbass……maybe you think i am…..but i read Obamas mind. “Its A Black Thang, You Dont Understand It”….now like i said….KISS OBAMAS BLACK ASS FOOL

Dude, you’d be a pathetic janitor. Please.

Technically speaking, Obama is right about Ryan. And shame on Ryan for voting for the prescription drug plan. But the president is mistaken if he thinks he can shut Ryan down by calling him a hypocrite. (To a leftist, “hypocrisy” is the worst sin one can commit). But all Ryan has to do is concede the vote was a mistake and remind everyone that just because he wasn’t wrong then he isn’t wrong now. What is Obama really trying to say here? That because you voted for spending in the past you can’t advocate spending cuts in the present? Ridiculous.

Obama wouldn’t be doing this if he weren’t terrified of Ryan and his budget.

Obama and his base govern by character assissination…
For all of you Obama believers, take out a pencil and paper and show where all the wealth is…
Obama wants to spend $3.6T at a defeict of $1.6T a year…
He says he wants to cut the budget by $4T over 12yrs… Translation, instead of my budget plans to spend $46T over 12yrs we will only spend $42T…
There is not enough wealth to confiscate… Inflation and bankruptcy are the only possible outcomes…
So go ahead, true-believers, show me where the wealth will come from…

Oh look more so called “open mic” audio. This is uch a blatant propaganda ploy. How does it feel to be in the business of government propaganda Mediaite?

furthermore…
Let’s seperate the person Ryan from the budget that is on paper…
You can look at his budget without savaging the man…

Ryan’s budget is simply a roadmap from medicare to a soylent green project! Why don’t the republicans be honest with us? They want to take over women’s bodies, control how many children they can have and let the elderly people with no money or insurance die! All over the country the gop is passing one law after another against women getting abortions! What will they take away next, birth control?

The women of this country need to wake up! A war has began, a war that will take away your rights as to how many children you are allowed to have and one that will no longer allow you to have control of your body! We are going backward and the gop won’t be happy until all women are barefoot and pregnant!

I do not want to think of my children or grandchildren being forced to live while suffering in pain because they ran out of ‘vouchers’ so rich corporations can continue to recieve a $200,000 tax breaks! Hell we all need to wake up! This budget ryan wrote doesn’t help America, all it does is make sure people like the koch brothers keep getting those large tax breaks at the exspense of the middle class, the working class, the poor and the elderly!

There you go again with the facts Mr President! You know it’s going to unhinge the wingnuts here!

Rescuedog said:
To a leftist, “hypocrisy” is the worst sin one can commit.

No no… “hypocrisy” is the worst sin A REPUBLICAN can commit… when it’s on “their side,” it’s “just politics.”

Although, I’m pretty sure it works both ways.

Montecore said:
The women of this country need to wake up! A war has began, a war that will take away your rights as to how many children you are allowed to have and one that will no longer allow you to have control of your body! We are going backward and the gop won’t be happy until all women are barefoot and pregnant!

if you cant afford to kill your own fetus, you SHOULD be ground up and turned into a green cracker…

Montecore said:
Ryan’s budget is simply a roadmap from medicare to a soylent green project! Why don’t the republicans be honest with us? They want to take over women’s bodies, control how many children they can have and let the elderly people with no money or insurance die! All over the country the gop is passing one law after another against women getting abortions! What will they take away next, birth control?

What in the heck are you talking about?!

Your post is just a mangled bunch of unrelated talking points, that are both wrong and nonsensical!

What evidence do you have for any of it? The GOP is looking to defund Planned Parenthood because they don’t want tax money going to help pay for abortions?! Is that it?

Yikes.

roxsteady said:
There you go again with the facts Mr President! You know it’s going to unhinge the wingnuts here!

POTUS is firing up his base for a reason; he is losing states like FL, OH, & PA…
He is trying to re-connect with his base, if he had his base and a winning argument he would be wooing the independents… that is not happening here…
We are witnessing a POTUS in political panic mode…

what i like is the libbs trying for “climate control” . if they get their wish , who gets to run the climate ? Barry ? i can see it now …. all right qaddafi quit or i’ll shut off your rain . when you quit libya will get rain again . just a flip of the switch …… what a dumb ass …. get it ? dumb ass (donkey) hee haw hee haw…

skoorbekim said:
furthermore…
Let’s seperate the person Ryan from the budget that is on paper…
You can look at his budget without savaging the man…

not if you are a leftist about to get hammered in a second election in a row . they have choices lie or insult .

mmars said:
This is fraudulant story!!! The open mic “slip” was intentional to make the Friday news!!! Does the media think we are THAT stupid? Either the reporter was “in” on the sceme with the Committee to Re-Elect or the reporter was duped by the Committee to Re-Elect. Come on reporters! Have more respect for your audience. We are not buying this story.

I don’t think Jake Tapper is trying to put one over on the public, if anything was purposeful, I’d say that it’s the president’s staff using the reporters as pawns. With quotes this “juicy” and an audio record, the media would have no choice but to report and everything I’ve seen helps the President’s cause.

More Liberty5 said:
I’m not saying you are a liar, but I’d like to see where you got that number.

Thank you for the restraint, to which I will respond a bit of a mea culpa. The 19% figure was drawn from a foggy memory, to wit: an old Calpundit post from before when most of you were born, probably 2002. But this link to the Center for Tax Justice, from 2009, demonstrates the basic point: that our tax system is not nearly as progressive as many think, what with FICA, et al., and state and local taxes, and especially sales taxes. http://www.ctj.org/pdf/taxday2009.pdf

Montecore said:
We are going backward and the gop won’t be happy until all women are barefoot and pregnant!

Ding, ding, ding! Hyperbole award of the hour. Don’t worry another lemming will up the ante. How do you people cross the street?

The Dweller Ysul said:
Center for Tax Justice

Citizens for Tax Justice?
The labor-backed group tha exists to counter the US Chamber of Commerce?

Obama is the worst President we’ve ever had. What else can you say?

skoorbekim said:
We are witnessing a POTUS in political panic mode…

Ding, ding, ding! Truth post of the hour award. Congrats!

skoorbekim said:
Obama and his base govern by character assissination…
For all of you Obama believers, take out a pencil and paper and show where all the wealth is…
Obama wants to spend $3.6T at a defeict of $1.6T a year…
He says he wants to cut the budget by $4T over 12yrs… Translation, instead of my budget plans to spend $46T over 12yrs we will only spend $42T…
There is not enough wealth to confiscate… Inflation and bankruptcy are the only possible outcomes…
So go ahead, true-believers, show me where the wealth will come from…

It’s like we’re in an alternate reality with these liberals. …kind of like the Star Trek episodes where they wake up and everyone is the opposite.

Thanks to the magnificent work of Paul Ryan, in Nov 2012 American voters will get to cast the most important vote of their lives — do you want America to go down “The Path to Prosperity”, or do you want America to continue to careen out-of-control down the lunatic-left d-crat socialist TAX-AND-SPEND “Road to Hell” plan to turn America into a HIGH TAX, LOW GROWTH, bankrupt European style ENTITLEMENT STATE – i.e. another Greece ?

The lunatic-left, which knows ONLY TWO THINGS (TAX and SPEND) will fight the correct solution to the nation’s crippling debt (i.e. CUT SPENDING), and will instead come forth with massive new TAX INCREASES so they can continue to SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND the nation into bankruptcy and into even more subservience to the d-crat socialists’ banker, the chinese communists.

Just as BIG GOVERNMENT can’t SPEND a nation into prosperity, it’s equally true that BIG GOVERNMENT can’t TAX a nation into prosperity. The fundamental basis of lunatic-left d-crat socialism FAILS on both of it’s key tenets.

November 2012 can’t come soon enough for Americans to further TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY from the extremist left who are destroying it.

skoorbekim said:
Citizens for Tax Justice?
The labor-backed group tha exists to counter the US Chamber of Commerce?

Well, then, show me the Chamber’s numbers on this issue, or their refutation of CTJ.

Alz said:
Obama is the worst President we’ve ever had. What else can you say?

run Donald run , whether he runs or not he’ll bring a life to the G.O.P. they’ll have a field that will defeat obammy easily .

The Dweller Ysul said:
But this link to the Center for Tax Justice, from 2009, demonstrates the basic point: that our tax system is not nearly as progressive as many think, what with FICA, et al., and state and local taxes, and especially sales taxes. http://www.ctj.org/pdf/taxday2009.pdf

I don’t see where you’re figuring in tax dollars received, without which, you cannot accurately describe the situation.

In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year

More Liberty5 said:
I’m just being honest. The idiot Obama and the idiot Ryan are fairly similar. Ryan wasn’t crying when Bush was stacking the debt, but Obama sure was. But of course Obama claims that was simply “political” as he currently stacks the debt and puts my great grand children in debt when they aren’t even alive.

Obama was certainly not out there trying to defund Planned Parenthood, if that is what you imply. He would have been fine with some spending cuts, but primarily cutting the deficit by increasing revenue via a much higher graduated tax on those who have all the money. Look at this chart: http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/history-of-federal-individual-1.html It is shameful that at a time when we are fighting three wars the tax rate is so low on those who are profiting. The fact that the top tax rates are so low, coupled with the cost of maintaining freedom in the middle east, is the main reason we are having deficit problems.

Montecore said:
Ryan’s budget is simply a roadmap from medicare to a soylent green project! Why don’t the republicans be honest with us? They want to take over women’s bodies, control how many children they can have and let the elderly people with no money or insurance die! All over the country the gop is passing one law after another against women getting abortions! What will they take away next, birth control? The women of this country need to wake up! A war has began, a war that will take away your rights as to how many children you are allowed to have and one that will no longer allow you to have control of your body! We are going backward and the gop won’t be happy until all women are barefoot and pregnant! I do not want to think of my children or grandchildren being forced to live while suffering in pain because they ran out of ‘vouchers’ so rich corporations can continue to recieve a $200,000 tax breaks! Hell we all need to wake up! This budget ryan wrote doesn’t help America, all it does is make sure people like the koch brothers keep getting those large tax breaks at the exspense of the middle class, the working class, the poor and the elderly!

Oh gag me!! Your propaganda stinks to high heaven!

valkyrie101 said:
Obama was certainly not out there trying to defund Planned Parenthood, if that is what you imply. He would have been fine with some spending cuts, but primarily cutting the deficit by increasing revenue via a much higher graduated tax on those who have all the money. Look at this chart: http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/history-of-federal-individual-1.html It is shameful that at a time when we are fighting three wars the tax rate is so low on those who are profiting. The fact that the top tax rates are so low, coupled with the cost of maintaining freedom in the middle east, is the main reason we are having deficit problems.

what are you talking about ??? the persons that make up the top 1% pay 50% of the income to the government . the poor take from the government and bawl “we want more … IT’S OUR RIGHT…you owe us”. WAAAAA ….. GO TO WORK AND SHUT UP .

The Dweller Ysul said:
Thank you for the restraint, to which I will respond a bit of a mea culpa. The 19% figure was drawn from a foggy memory, to wit: an old Calpundit post from before when most of you were born, probably 2002. But this link to the Center for Tax Justice, from 2009, demonstrates the basic point: that our tax system is not nearly as progressive as many think, what with FICA, et al., and state and local taxes, and especially sales taxes. http://www.ctj.org/pdf/taxday2009.pdf

That’s what I figured. The Center for Tax Justice admits the following:
“Liberal public policy organization specializing in federal tax issues.”

Additionally, their claim that state/ local income taxes take more from the poor is completely false, and they provide no proof.

Here is the actual IRS tax brackets.
http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm

What this doesn’t take into account though are deductions which enable many people, the bottom 48% of wage earners to pay no income tax. Although they do pay FICA which is capped because benefits are capped.

Just more of a reason for a Flat-tax which allows no deductions and is fair.

OOO Paul … can you feel the bitch slap?

“More details have emerged from the open microphone that caught remarkably candid comments made by President Obama during a private conversation with campaign donors last night in Chicago.” snip
***********

How many people really think it was an accidental “open microphone” HAHAHAHAHAAAAA

As if, the Obaminites would ever leave a live microphones open again in order for Obama’s, lies and hypocrisy to be ever captured again.
They are so bold face liars and they now have their minion Jake Tapper aiding and abetting in the ruse and he is pretending that it is the latest news he has uncovered.

ellie said:
OOO Paul … can you feel the bitch slap?

I’m sure he felt this one. I’ll bet his hand is still tingling a bit.

Pablo said:
I’m sure he felt this one. I’ll bet his hand is still tingling a bit.

You can’t talk sense into Ellie or those that think Trump is a credible candidate. They’ll say the same things, rinse and repeat.

valkyrie101 said:
The fact that the top tax rates are so low, coupled with the cost of maintaining freedom in the middle east, is the main reason we are having deficit problems.

You are a complete ideologue. We have a spending problem, not a low tax problem. You know who got us into this mess was government now they want the tax payers to get them out of it. You could take every dollar from every rich person making over $250K and you’re not going to balance the budget.

In 1980 the fed govt spent $591 billion. —Revenue was $886 billion with 41% from income taxes
1985 they spent $900 billion —-Revenue was $1.3 trillion with 35% from taxes
1990 they spent $1.2 trillion —-Revenue was $1.9 trillion with 35% coming from income taxes
1995 they spent $1.5 trillion —-Revenue was $2.54 trillion with 36% coming from income taxes
2000 they spent $1.7trillion—Revenue was $3.6 trillion with 40% from income taxes
2005 it jumped to $2.4 trillion—Revenue was $4.24 trillion with 35% from income taxes
2010 it jumped to $3.456 trillion—Revenue was $4.2 trillion with 33% coming from income taxes

What we have is a spending problem – not a taxation problem. The government can’t control spending.

Both sides are addicted but depending on who is screwing the tax payer depends on who is complaining.

http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com

@ Montecore:
Ryan’s budget is simply a roadmap from medicare to a soylent green project! Why don’t the republicans be honest with us? They want to take over women’s bodies, control how many children they can have and let the elderly people with no money or insurance die! All over the country the gop is passing one law after another against women getting abortions! What will they take away next, birth control?

Everytime the Republicans are hinest with the American people, they lose elections. It’s simple.

WCinWI said:
You can’t talk sense into Ellie or those that think Trump is a credible candidate. They’ll say the same things, rinse and repeat.

Trump/Romney 2012!

Latest gallup poll is 41% obama approval (lowest during presidency), with independents at 35%, repubs 15%, dems 77% see http://www.gallup.com/poll/147140/Obama-Job-Approval-Tying-Low.aspx

The only people who support Pres. Obama is his base, and yet they are STILL in full partisan mode. Wow. That is stupid.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
@ Montecore:Ryan’s budget is simply a roadmap from medicare to a soylent green project! Why don’t the republicans be honest with us? They want to take over women’s bodies, control how many children they can have and let the elderly people with no money or insurance die! All over the country the gop is passing one law after another against women getting abortions! What will they take away next, birth control? Everytime the Republicans are hinest with the American people, they lose elections. It’s simple.

You are insane. Take your meds and go away.

“this is the same guy that voted for two wars that were unpaid for, ”

One war which Barry is continuing, one war that Barry is expanding and one war, Barry started.

” voted for the Bush tax cuts that were unpaid for,”

How does one pay for a tax cut?

” voted for the prescription drug bill that cost as much as my health care bill — but wasn’t paid for”

OMG, Barry wants to let the elderly die!

skoorbekim said:
Obama and his base govern by character assissination…

LOL Like Obama is a Kenyan Mau Mau who is anti-colonialist … Who hates white people, the white race … He’s a Marxist, Stalinist, Fascist, racist, socialist … He’s not a real American if fact he’s not even American, he’s the Manchurian Candidate. He’s the secret son of Malcolm X.

Ya, it’s left that’s into character assassination. Grow a set you bunch of sniveling wimpy vicious cry babies.

Barack Obama Mocks Paul Ryan’s Past Fiscal Recklessness In Private Donor Meeting”

Yes, this is Barry’s version of Congress working together.

notsofast said:
“this is the same guy that voted for two wars that were unpaid for, ”

One war which Barry is continuing, one war that Barry is expanding and one war, Barry started.

” voted for the Bush tax cuts that were unpaid for,”

How does one pay for a tax cut?

” voted for the prescription drug bill that cost as much as my health care bill — but wasn’t paid for”

OMG, Barry wants to let the elderly die!

You’re needed on the Trump article at the top. :)

ellie said:
LOL Like Obama is a Kenyan Mau Mau who is anti-colonialist … Who hates white people, the white race … He’s a Marxist, Stalinist, Fascist, racist, socialist … He’s not a real American if fact he’s not even American, he’s the Manchurian Candidate. He’s the secret son of Malcolm X.

Ya, it’s left that’s into character assassination. Grow a set you bunch of sniveling wimpy vicious cry babies.

Please stop calling the President names such as the ones listed before.

All you need to call him is a dunce – that takes care of all of those names.

THE MAN said:
what are you talking about ??? the persons that make up the top 1% pay 50% of the income to the government . the poor take from the government and bawl “we want more … IT’S OUR RIGHT…you owe us”. WAAAAA ….. GO TO WORK AND SHUT UP .

The problem with your idea about getting to work is that there are literally not enough jobs. Do you have a solution to that? If not, why do you ridicule the umemployed? During WW2 the top tax bracket was over 80%, during the Korean War it was 91%, during the Viet Nam War is was over 70%.

lane said:
Latest gallup poll is 41% obama approval (lowest during presidency), with independents at 35%, repubs 15%, dems 77% see http://www.gallup.com/poll/147140/Obama-Job-Approval-Tying-Low.aspx

The only people who support Pres. Obama is his base, and yet they are STILL in full partisan mode. Wow. That is stupid.

Winning!

justanotherconservative said:
against women getting abortions

Some people happen to think that abortion is murder, jackass. Maybe it isn’t in your mind. But those people who believe killing a life in a womb do get pretty emotional about it and feel it should stop. As far as choice goes – maybe women who don’t want to get pregnant should try being abstinent or take birth control. There are choices but these choices mean that people have to be responsible enough to think them through and choose a better alternative.

More Liberty5 said:
You are a complete ideologue. We have a spending problem, not a low tax problem

In fact, a “deficit” occurs when we have more expenses than we have income. Cutting waste is important, but raising income out of the highest GNP in history, from those making by far the highest profits in history, is obviously a valid solution to the problem. Look at this chart which shows how ridiculously low the taxes are on the super wealthy. http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/history-of-federal-individual-1.html

TerryDo said:
“More details have emerged from the open microphone that caught remarkably candid comments made by President Obama during a private conversation with campaign donors last night in Chicago.” snip*********** How many people really think it was an accidental “open microphone” HAHAHAHAHAAAAA As if, the Obaminites would ever leave a live microphones open again in order for Obama’s, lies and hypocrisy to be ever captured again.They are so bold face liars and they now have their minion Jake Tapper aiding and abetting in the ruse and he is pretending that it is the latest news he has uncovered.

Obama, incompetent hypocritical Marxist! This was not accidental!!

valkyrie101 said:
In fact, a “deficit” occurs when we have more expenses than we have income. Cutting waste is important, but raising income out of the highest GNP in history, from those making by far the highest profits in history, is obviously a valid solution to the problem

I don’t know about you, but all my employers have been wealthy enough to employ me to make them wealthier… that’s how the game works…
Take a look at the Laffer Curve to understand about over taxation…
A flat tax is the only fair tax…

valkyrie101 said:
The problem with your idea about getting to work is that there are literally not enough jobs. Do you have a solution to that? If not, why do you ridicule the umemployed? During WW2 the top tax bracket was over 80%, during the Korean War it was 91%, during the Viet Nam War is was over 70%.

So? Shouldn’t tax rates be fair for al Americans? Why can’t we just do away with deductions and have a flat rate tax system. The wealthy will still pay more because they obviously make more, and the poor will pay less because they obviously pay less.

In the mid 60s the top rate was 70%, and that was anyone earning over $200,000 a year. Adjust that for inflation and it comes out to $1.367 million.

Adjusting for inflation, $250K (todays top margin) in 1965 was $36,000. Now, you tell me. What was the rate for someone making $36K in 1965.

More Liberty5 said:
Additionally, their claim that state/ local income taxes take more from the poor is completely false, and they provide no proof.

Sure, they provide proof, More Liberty. As is prominently placed on the first table of the CTJ report that I linked to above, they get their data from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, which utilizes a “Microsimulation Tax Model,” which in Wiki is described as relying…

“‘…on one of the largest databases of tax returns and supplementary data in existence, encompassing close to three quarters of a million records.’ [3] Similar microsimulation models are housed at the Joint Committee on Taxation, the U.S. Treasury Department, and the Congressional Budget Office.[3] The Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center has more recently built a similar model.[10] The ITEP model, however, stands apart from each of these in that it adds state-by-state estimating capabilities not found anywhere else.[3]”

Now, the ITEP is a sister organization of the CTJ, but show me any evidence calling these state tax numbers into doubt, because obviously they are difficult to compile, and likely very tricky to analyze.

More Liberty5 said:
In 1980 the fed govt spent $591 billion. —Revenue was $886 billion with 41% from income taxes
….
2010 it jumped to $3.456 trillion—Revenue was $4.2 trillion with 33% coming from income taxes

I’m uncertain about what you mean by this series, and I have to say it doesn’t look right to me, but let’s simplify and clarify things, just like the President has over the past few days.

In 2000, we had a roughly balanced budget, under a string of budget put forward by a liberal president. Starting 2001, we nearly simultaneously cut taxes, began two wars & put a federal prescription-drug program into place (all of which budget-hawk Paul Ryan voted for, by the way). Huge deficits naturally followed, such that the last budget of George Dummy Bush was $1+ Trillion in deficit. These weren’t deficits created by goverment; they were created by poorly administered conservative government. It’s time for those who received those tax cuts, and who can now afford to pony up more for the benefit of their nation, to do so.

valkyrie101 said:
In fact, a “deficit” occurs when we have more expenses than we have income. Cutting waste is important, but raising income out of the highest GNP in history, from those making by far the highest profits in history, is obviously a valid solution to the problem. Look at this chart which shows how ridiculously low the taxes are on the super wealthy. http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/history-of-federal-individual-1.html

Are you serious? Revenue for the US government is extremely high as a percentage of GDP historically. The only reason we have a deficit is because the government, regardless of party, can’t control it’s spending.

Well at least it’ll be Barack Obama, the worst president of all time doing it ( destoying his presidency from within ) to himself.

This way when his entire manifesto of destroying America and rebuilding a third world empire of his youth in hostile lands comes unraveled at his feet, We the ” real ” American people will be no where in sight, but will still blamed by him and his ilk for his downfall. They’ll be calling us racists for wishing him to fail.

The beginning of the end of the reign of Obama is upon us. We must stay focused on what us ” real ” Americans, family and friends must do to prepare for what is needed to realize our gaols and plans for our families futures and help our elected officials locally and in Washington to understand and work towards the same goals.

It’s time to forget about Barack Obama and his democrat party. They will destroy themselves from within. We must look to the future here in America and ignore, eventually forgetting about the past.Especially the past two years.

The Dweller Ysul said:
In 2000, we had a roughly balanced budget, under a string of budget put forward by a liberal president. Starting 2001, we nearly simultaneously cut taxes, began two wars & put a federal prescription-drug program into place (all of which budget-hawk Paul Ryan voted for, by the way). Huge deficits naturally followed, such that the last budget of George Dummy Bush was $1+ Trillion in deficit. These weren’t deficits created by goverment; they were created by poorly administered conservative government. It’s time for those who received those tax cuts, and who can now afford to pony up more for the benefit of their nation, to do so.

Like I said, you can take every penny from the evil rich people and you will not be able to balance the budget. If Obama was so concerned about balancing the budget then we would not have the increase in federal spending that he has approved.

I don’t agree at all with the wars or the funding of them, nor did I agree with the prescription drug plan. The federal government has no constitutional authority in that department, and those wars in my opinion were illegal as well.

The budget is controlled by the Congress so when you complain about them you have to look at the congress. The president can only sign or veto a budget. And throughout the 90s and most of the ’00s we had two parties screwing us, and passing these things.

I am not sticking up for any group, I am simply questioning a government, which has the ability to confiscate property, kill and take from private citizens. You regardless of party, should be questioning them as well.

Think about those Korean War era top bracket rates, 92%, starting at 400K and up. So Beck is like, well, I make 50 million a year and the government is going to take over 90% of it? Thus, for Glenn, (or whichever) raising taxes is a financial ruin, his politics, his philosophy, and everyone at Fox to one degree or another, are anti-tax. Gosh, even in 1986, during the Reagan era, when we were not at war, the top rate was 50%.

valkyrie101 said:
raising taxes is a financial ruin, his politics, his philosophy, and everyone at Fox to one degree or another, are anti-tax

Do you know what causes inflation?

Barry is a racist.

More Liberty5 said:
Revenue for the US government is extremely high as a percentage of GDP historically.

Absolutely wrong, More Liberty. In the past three years, 2009-2011, federal government receipts as a share of GDP are at their lowest since 1950. Go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals, and click on Table 1.2—Summary of Receipts, Outlays, and Surpluses or Deficits (-) as Percentages of GDP: 1930–2016. You’ll see that federal revenues are between 2.5% and 5% below the historical norm.

skoorbekim said:
I don’t know about you, but all my employers have been wealthy enough to employ me to make them wealthier… that’s how the game works…Take a look at the Laffer Curve to understand about over taxation…A flat tax is the only fair tax…

Take a look at this chart which references the top tax rates over the years: http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/history-of-federal-individual-1.html It was always the case that Bush could not have his cake and eat it too. Bush wanted war, we supported him on that, but then he foolishly used the Repubican Congress with a Cheney tie breaker to cut taxes (and revenue). War is expensive. At least half of our current deficit is a function of that.

The Dweller Ysul said:
In the past three years, 2009-2011

How do you raise the $1.6T needed?
tell us…
explain the tax formula needed to raise $1.6T a year for the next 10 years…

notsofast said:
Barry is a racist.

What does he race?

skoorbekim said:
How do you raise the $1.6T needed?
tell us…
explain the tax formula needed to raise $1.6T a year for the next 10 years…

And then the additional$1.2T in taxes needed over the next 10 years to pay off the debt…

valkyrie101 said:
Bush wanted war,

Liberal talikng point that assumes the person you are debating supported Bush…

skoorbekim said:
Do you know what causes inflation?

Paying a disk jockey 50 million a year to call the President a communist?

skoorbekim said:
Liberal talikng point that assumes the person you are debating supported Bush…

Not really, overwhelmingly the nation supported going to war against Sadaam, including me, but especially the republican side. If that does not include you and Barry, that’s cool.

He mocks America!

valkyrie101 said:
Paying a disk jockey 50 million a year to call the President a communist?

Take a look at what happened to the Spanish Gov’t when they were flooded with American gold…

Who pays a disc jockey $50M?

valkyrie101 said:
and Barry

Sen Obama could have voted to end the war funding just like he could have voted to raise the debt ceiling…

Barack Obama Mocks Paul Ryan’s Past Fiscal Recklessness In Private Donor Meeting

A ” President ” who mocks and gives the finger to his fellow citizens .

Just like Lincoln and Jefferson .

What a joke this punk is .

skoorbekim said:
Sen Obama could have voted to end the war funding just like he could have voted to raise the debt ceiling…

Obama was against going to war, yes, he ran on that platform in his 2003 Senate campaign, but having gone to war, Obama has supported our troops.

skoorbekim said:
Take a look at what happened to the Spanish Gov’t when they were flooded with American gold… Who pays a disc jockey $50M?

Some very silly people.

Hey there Obama you fool we are still clinging to our guns and religion. You can dis us all you want when you meet with your ultra rich and liberal California white wine crowd or your rich liberal Hyde Park thugs. We know the truth you are nothing but a despicable two faced liar.

Does The Messiah, the Man who was going to LOWER THE SEAS and BRING PEACE TO THE WORLD, really have any room to talk about anyone else and their spending habits? Maybe he isn’t aware that he now holds the record for spending by a president. Maybe he has no problem spending trillions of dollars because it’s not HIS money….. one thing LIBERALS are always good at.

andthehorseyourodeinon said:
Hey there Obama you fool we are still clinging to our guns and religion. You can dis us all you want when you meet with your ultra rich and liberal California white wine crowd or your rich liberal Hyde Park thugs. We know the truth you are nothing but a despicable two faced liar.

you forgot to add the 57 states thing and oh, i don’t think he reads mediaite. (his loss)

It is all about him, always……. This clown is the last guy who should be looking to dig up history.

bitterclinger said:
Does The Messiah, the Man who was going to LOWER THE SEAS and BRING PEACE TO THE WORLD, really have any room to talk about anyone else and their spending habits? Maybe he isn’t aware that he now holds the record for spending by a president. Maybe he has no problem spending trillions of dollars because it’s not HIS money….. one thing LIBERALS are always good at.

if the war criminal along with republicans who ripped the regulations from banks bank in the 90s hadn’t have bankrupted the country, obama wouldn’t have had to spend all of OUR money to save jobs and keep OUR country together.
don’t worry though, by the time his next term as president is over, he will have OUR country running as well as bill clinton had it.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
you forgot to add the 57 states thing and oh, i don’t think he reads mediaite. (his loss)

Of course there is the famous statement by one m.”I got a lot of junk in my trunk” Obama about finally being proud of her country. Birds of a feather.

This Administration can only MOCK, because they cannot debate with facts.

I agree they need to cut spending, but they should start with the industrial-military complex. e.g. The pentagon needs to learn how to get by on a half trillion per year. And I’m not talking about cutting the pay and/or benefits of the rank and file soldiers. Very-few of those work at the pentagon.

The sneering arrogance that infuses his words is disgustingly un-presidential. His contempt for people who don’t share his views are appalling.

This is the best the ‘progressive’ movement can produce? Yeah, I think it is….how tragic for us all.

The top 400 earners in the U.S. earn an average of $345,000,000 (that’s 345 MILLION per year) while the average wage of the bottom 150,000,000 Americans is only $26,000. Before Reagan the bottom 90% usually had gains for the 30 yr. from 1950-80, but from 1980 to 2008 the income of this lower class increased only $303, a mere 1% increase. While the top earners paid on average only 18.7% Fed. income tax , the average worker in the bottom 90% paid an average of 23.4%.
http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-17350-9_things_the_rich_dont_want_you_to_know_about_taxes.html

So the facts are clear, the top earners DO NOT pay nearly a large enough percentage of tax, with respect to the money they make in this country. It’s time THEY paid so those who can least afford to give, don’t have to. And if you believe the “trickle down” thing works then next Sunday is Easter and you can go wait for the bunny too.

He should mock Paul Ryan’s plan. It doesn’t pay the debt off until 75 years from now. The budget that was just passed by the house has a $1 trillion deficit! What kind of fools are you?

Darr247 said:
I agree they need to cut spending, but

That is what everybody say’s….It is the BUT that gets all of us, every time.

catholic-citizen says:
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The sneering arrogance that infuses his words is disgustingly un-presidential. His contempt for people who don’t share his views are appalling.

This is the best the ‘progressive’ movement can produce? Yeah, I think it is….how tragic for us all.
====================

Catholics are the biggest hypocrites there are. Preach morals and values, but don’t adhere to those rules.

Good! Its about time that Obama and others mock and call idiots like Paul Ryan out for their hypocrisy. I guarantee you that if Bush, Cheney or any of those elitest repug neocons had said any of these things that Obama is bring criticized for, all the stupid idiot republican voting sheep out there would be fine with that. Repugs have made this nation into the best government money can buy while duping idiot voters into making them think they care about the nation and the middle class. Republican politicians true constituents are those wealthy millionaires, billionaires and corporations that throw money at them. But…for those of us who have ears to hear and eyes to see, it is not hard to see that the GOP made a deal with the devil 30 years ago when the decided to get the greedy wealthy country club repugs together with the stupid red necked sunday school repugs. The GOP is not a poliltical party that is of, for or by the people and these stupid scrotum breathed tea baggers are as anti-American as it gets. But then…you’d have to be a stupid right winger if:

… you think the right to life ends at birth.
… you think that corporations have more compassion than humans.
… you think trickle down economics actually trickles down.
… you understand that getting people to vote on abortion issues will keep you in office and let you pass tax cuts for the upper class.
…You believe that the worst Republican in the world is better than the best Democrat.
…Abortion is murder, but killing the children in Iraq is liberating them
…Clinton getting a blow job by a woman not his wife is an impeachable offense, but starting a war of lies by
W, allowing prisoners to be tortured and taking freedoms away from your own countrymen is not.
…You think national health care should be run by the insurance companies.
…if you think corporate interests are national interests.
…you think Universal Health Care is bad but Corporate Welfare is good
…You believe that bombing Iraq had anything to do with September 11.
…you think Jesus Christ was a great conservative political philosopher
…You actually think that Fox News does not “spin.”
…You think that a president lying about getting a blowjob is far more serious than a president lying about the reasons for starting a war
…You think Liberal slant is bad, but think Right Winger slant is just fine
…”n*****” is a staple of your vocabulary.
…you spout talking points that have been proven false, hoping that it’ll stick anyway.
…you’re a “good Christian” but you hate more people than you love.

TrollJuice said:
He should mock Paul Ryan’s plan. It doesn’t pay the debt off until 75 years from now.

If only Ryan would have told us that “we need to pass it to see what is in it,” Then Troll wouln’t know everything there is to know about it…or does he…????

TrollJuice said:
Catholics are the biggest hypocrites there are. Preach morals and values, but don’t adhere to those rules.

The Wholly Pedophile Church.

Tedderman said:
The top 400 earners in the U.S. earn an average of $345,000,000 (that’s 345 MILLION per year)

You are talking Millions… The yearly deficit is in the TRILLIONS… Take all the 400′s money, it does not get you through a year of a $3.6T budget…
Wake up the system is broke…

OK Sourbeans, heres how it works. You raise revenue(taxes) on the wealthy now and gradually we add that money to reductions in spending, lets say from defence, then, over time you reduce the debt. It cannot be done overnight as we did not arrive at this point overnight. As you can see by the article i’ve noted, it began with Reagan. You’re right the system is broke because republicans believe the money of the obscenely wealthy is sacrosanct.

Tedderman said:
You’re right the system is broke because republicans believe the money of the obscenely wealthy is sacrosanct.

and you think you can be a loser because the rest of us will carry your worthless ass…

catholic-citizen says:
The sneering arrogance that infuses his words is disgustingly un-presidential. His contempt for people who don’t share his views are appalling.
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You can be angry at what was said, however he was correct on all counts. This is how he should have been talking past all the ‘tea-Fox” lies for the last two years! Boehner, speaks with a far worse tone, almost everyday (every day) You can play back his press releases! You want to talk about arrogance and disgusting, just look at the tea party, with the ‘hell no” “no balls,” “he’s crazy”, “you lie”, “that wasn’t ment to be factual”, those are just office holders, not even going into the Fox clowns! Maybe he’s just learning from the teas!

timcajun said:
catholic-citizen says:
The sneering arrogance that infuses his words is disgustingly un-presidential. His contempt for people who don’t share his views are appalling.
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You can be angry at what was said, however he was correct on all counts. This is how he should have been talking past all the ‘tea-Fox” lies for the last two years! Boehner, speaks with a far worse tone, almost everyday (every day) You can play back his press releases! You want to talk about arrogance and disgusting, just look at the tea party, with the ‘hell no” “no balls,” “he’s crazy”, “you lie”, “that wasn’t ment to be factual”, those are just office holders, not even going into the Fox clowns! Maybe he’s just learning from the teas!

oh look everyone! timcajun is a loser too!

Tedderman said:
heres how it works. You raise revenue(taxes) on the wealthy now and gradually we add that money to reductions in spending,

Yearly deficit of $1.6T on top of a $14T debt…
You can’t “gradually” do anything…
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Show me where you can acquire that money without accruing massive inflation…

catholic-citizen said:
The sneering arrogance that infuses his words is disgustingly un-presidential. His contempt for people who don’t share his views are appalling. .

Your comments are laughable. You and your party continuously mock and insult those who don’t share your views and then act offended when someone dishes it back at you.

If I had a nickel for every time someone from your party called Democratic views as “anti-American” or “socialist” “pulling the plug on grandma” or “palling around with terrorists” ..etc etc etc.

lol…is this really a big deal???….you’d think Obama cussed out Ryans mama or something..Obama has a view Dont matter if you wingnuts dont like it…in fact he told the truth……OVERRIDE MY VETO OR KISS MY BLACK ASS is what he should have said…you repukes rail and lie on Obama everyday…he responds and yall cower and cry like lil bitches……….DUMBASSES….take it like a champ

President Obama gives you dumbasses ZERO respect….NADA, ZILCH…its what you deserve….Now parade your uneducated stupid asses to a civics class, wise up a little bit then try to engage this president….you beckerheads are gonna get wiped out in 2012….I said long ago that Obamas ultimate goal was to destroy the whole republican party….and hes right on schedule to do just that….you freaks put checkers on a chess board…this is Homer Simpson VS Einstein in a intelligence test….Einstein wins every time

Armageddon T Thunderbird said:
Armageddon T Thunderbird

Your blind alliegence to a political party and THEIR candidate(s) says more about you, my friend, then the people you seem to despise
We could go back and forth, point on point, with every talking point you posted, but what would be the use? It seems that you have made up your mind with such blaketed statements and 1/2 truths.

What’s the old saying about throwing stones in glass house. Obimbo is starting to sound like a whinny little juvenile. He’s no longer getting his way, and Republicans are starting to show the country just how inept this little racist really is. The Obmacons are up to their usuall school girl attacks trying to cover up for the lack of integrity their “mistake” is becoming known for. All in all, another laughable 3-stooges marathon at the White House.

ProObamaAgenda said:
President Obama gives you dumbasses ZERO respect….NADA, ZILCH…its what you deserve….Now parade your uneducated stupid asses to a civics class, wise up a little bit then try to engage this president….you beckerheads are gonna get wiped out in 2012….I said long ago that Obamas ultimate goal was to destroy the whole republican party….and hes right on schedule to do just that….you freaks put checkers on a chess board…this is Homer Simpson VS Einstein in a intelligence test….Einstein wins every time

Hmm, that must be why the Democrats lost over 400 YEARS of Congressional experience and over 650 State seats in November. Man, what a plan.

ProObamaAgenda said:
OVERRIDE MY VETO OR KISS MY BLACK ASS

ProObamaAgenda said:
cry like lil bitches……….DUMBASSES….take it like a champ

ProObamaAgenda said:
you dumbasses ZERO

ProObamaAgenda said:
uneducated stupid asses

ProObamaAgenda said:
you freaks

Are you Howard Dean ? Very eloquent , Howard .

Alz said:
Hmm, that must be why the Democrats lost over 400 YEARS of Congressional experience and over 650 State seats in November. Man, what a plan.

lol@ your dumbass comment…clearly im talking about federal elections, and since the article is about Obama VS Ryan it should be obvious to the average wingnut that I mean the presidential race and the elections to the house of representatives….you can keep your dogcatcher offices in local races

jdubbellu says:
oh look everyone! timcajun is a loser too!
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That hurts me deeply, as about as deep as your posts! Keep the hate and the grade school names alive!

obama actually has a sense of humor

ProObamaAgenda said:
lol@ your dumbass comment…clearly im talking about federal elections, and since the article is about Obama VS Ryan it should be obvious to the average wingnut that I mean the presidential race and the elections to the house of representatives….you can keep your dogcatcher offices in local races

Then let’s amend what i said: “Hmm, that must be why the Democrats lost over 400 YEARS of US Congressional experience.” I’ll take the 650+ seats that you idiots lost in November.

Before you whine, image if the Republicans lost 400+ years of US Congressional experience? You guys wou;d be all over the place talking about mandates and the like.

The fact is Obama and the other liberals keep digging deeper holes. Normal people would be working to make things better – a) for the People and b) for their won election chances.

But not these liberals.

You guys keep coming up with more ideas to slow down the economy.

valkyrie101 said:
The problem with your idea about getting to work is that there are literally not enough jobs. Do you have a solution to that? If not, why do you ridicule the umemployed? During WW2 the top tax bracket was over 80%, during the Korean War it was 91%, during the Viet Nam War is was over 70%.

You keep focusing on tax RATES, not the revenue (which is the important part.) Your focus drives people think about punishment.

When the rates were 70%+, there were a lot of deductions/loopholes possible. Reagan cleaned up some of that.

As the RATES became more fair, more people (not all) just paid their taxes and didn’t worry so much about needing loopholes.

So focus on what we all care about and that is revenue.

TampopoLoco said:
It’s time to get tough with these GOP douchebags, Mr. President. Get rid of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and tell republicans who bitch about it to just go and fcuk themselves! Take care of the 98% of us who are middle class and poor.

I find myself having to agree with this ludicrous statement. Obviously TampopoLoco is not able to take care of his/her self. How depressing that feeling must be.

Aha, the POS in chief is caught in his “bitter clinging” mode once again. Lord, I hope that this country votes that jug-eared doofus a one-way ticket back to his birth-country, whereever it is.

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That backbone is what we hired Obama to show. Better late than never.

mediadoubt says: April 16, 2011 at 12:55 am mediadoubt(Quote) That backbone is what we hired Obama to show. Better late than never.

Let’s get an X-RAY on that backbone. The “community organizer” experience or “present” votes are not helping re-election efforts, nor is Barry Soetoro’s “Nobel Peace Prize” while starting a 3rd war, nor is the “promise” of slashing the deficit in half while raising the deficit by trillions, nor is the “promise” of being “transparent” with the “white out” of the White House visitor logs, nor is the lack of “televised CSPAN discussions” with the closed door meetings, nor is the “shovel ready jobs” which never occured, nor is the no lobbyists “promise” within the administration when he hired hundreds (some even serving as advisors), etc. Backbone?

But I’m with you, he does give a good speech, right? I melt like a school girl

Alz said:
So focus on what we all care about and that is revenue.

Exactly. Everybody only has their mind on spending cuts when we need to increase revenue to support a growing population.

mediadoubt said:
That backbone is what we hired Obama to show. Better late than never.

……and you’re funny too.

Where is Tony Rezco ?

This guy needs to grow up; what a manchild.

Obamo isn’t proudly running for re-election, he’s sheepishly and apologetically running for re-election as only a limp-wristed communist Lib could.

Us Hillary supporters noticed Obama’s negative personality traits way before everyone else.

Passive Aggressive much, Obama?

ProObamaAgenda said:
All you have to look forward too in 2012 is a good old fashioned chicago style backhand smakdown from Obama….better wear helmet wingnut

Oh yeah, the dead pack a heck of a wallop, but whatever it takes for you Obama groupies. lol

btw, he sucked as a state senator, we can thank Emil Jones for creating this mess.

One more year in this tragic, debt ridden, forsaken state and I’m gone, my vote will finally count.

nutraslim said:
obama actually has a sense of humor

That must be why we have VP Biden.

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