As they ALWAYS do. People just don’t go to MSNBC to get hard, probing news. Pun intended.

I love Keith and I stopped watching MSNBC awhile ago. Lock Up is clearly a great show.

MSNBC is such a joke. Comcast is going to have to do away with everyone involved with the current programming. Something tells me that they will be fine because daily kos will scoop them up.

Funny how NO ONE from NBC news will appear on MSNBC in prime time to cover this breaking story. MSNBC is poison for any NBCer. If they go on that network, they will be aligned with the hate screechers..

CNN has an opportunity here, will they follow-up with reporting factually, honestly, and allowing all sides to be aired, or will they just keep going after MSNBC and stay in the liberal gutter. We’ll see once this story dies down in a few days or so.

Tee Hee.

:P

This will inevitably happen. Hardcore FOX “News” fans are interested in commentary and not news. That’s not a criticism. The average FOX male viewer wouldn’t look away from Bill-o if a chorus line of naked female dancers came into the Media Room, and the average FOX female viewer wouldn’t get up to answer the door if a shirtless Brad Pitt were delivering a double chocolate cheesecake and a pitcher of hot fudge on the side.

MSNBC doesn’t do much more news that FOX, and at times, even less.

If news is your game, CNN is the name!

It speaks volumes that Fox’s viewers so heavily skew to the biggest welfare recipients in the US, the elderly, as they are more prone to believe the sorts of propaganda that the network spews. That sort of rubbish doesn’t work on younger people, but then again we don’t send chain letters anymore either, let alone believe the contents.

Getting thumped by Parker/Spitzer has got to hurt.

Why is this a surprise? People don’t like to watch or listen to fanatical left wingers. This has been proven again and again.

Royal Nincompoop says:

If news is your game, CNN is the name!

Clearly, the viewing public disagrees big time!

Publius219 said:
It speaks volumes that Fox’s viewers so heavily skew to the biggest welfare recipients in the US, the elderly, as they are more prone to believe the sorts of propaganda that the network spews.

So, people who have decades of life experience and decades of paying into mandatory government programs are stupid moochers? Nah, it’s probably just your parents.

TfT said:
Funny how NO ONE from NBC news will appear on MSNBC in prime time to cover this breaking story.

NBC is MSNBC lite. Its just as liberally slanted, but with a slightly softer tone.

Publius219 said:
It speaks volumes that Fox’s viewers so heavily skew to the biggest welfare recipients in the US, the elderly, as they are more prone to believe the sorts of propaganda that the network spews. That sort of rubbish doesn’t work on younger people, but then again we don’t send chain letters anymore either, let alone believe the contents.

Oh wow, a left winger who sees the old as useless and stupid. They shouldn’t worry about death panels though right?

RRK: “a chorus line of naked female dancers came into the Media Room”

Me: WHERE!!! WHERE!!! ;)

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Royal Nincompoop says: If news is your game, CNN is the name! Clearly, the viewing public disagrees big time!

No, no, Michelle-in-Utah. FOX “News” doesn’t do news. It does kommentary and victimization.

Dronetek said:
NBC is MSNBC lite. Its just as liberally slanted, but with a slightly softer tone.

They don’t need to do so. MSNBC programming during the day is news.

MSNBC screwed themselves when they let KO go. Karma I love it because it always works.

The Real Royal King said:
They don’t need to do so. MSNBC programming during the day is news.

They have three hours of hard news during the day: 12-1and 2-4 eastern typically. If its not Tamron Hall, chances are its politics.

Pablo said:
So, people who have decades of life experience and decades of paying into mandatory government programs are stupid moochers? Nah, it’s probably just your parents.

My parents are rich, biotch.

People who receive 3 times what they paid into entitlement programs would technically be welfare recipients, would they not? Yet try to get any elderly person to renounce any benefits beyond what they paid in.

Dronetek said:
Oh wow, a left winger who sees the old as useless and stupid. They shouldn’t worry about death panels though right?

I’m a libertarian if anything. I just think the elderly should get what they’re entitled to, which is what they paid in. As it stands now, they receive about 3 times the benefits they ever paid in. And although illegals drain entitlements too to some degree, there are far less of them than there are of the elderly. Just facts.

SO for total viewers, the lamestream socialist fake-news propagandists and liars COMBINED do equal Fair and Balanced FOX. My faith in the good judgment of the American people has been restored.

Publius219 said:
My parents are rich, biotch. People who receive 3 times what they paid into entitlement programs would technically be welfare recipients, would they not? Yet try to get any elderly person to renounce any benefits beyond what they paid in.

then maybe the government should not make deals to pay interest on the money they take……..

Publius219 said:
My parents are rich, biotch. People who receive 3 times what they paid into entitlement programs would technically be welfare recipients, would they not? Yet try to get any elderly person to renounce any benefits beyond what they paid in.

and since your parents are rich, how many poor people did they screw over to get that money

Pablo said:
Getting thumped by Parker/Spitzer has got to hurt.

I think it’s more of a win by CNN, rather than “Parker/Spitzer”.

MSNBC famously doesn’t have a lot of resources of their own. Sure, they can aggregate from NBC News, the Weather Channel and I guess Golf TV now, if the need arises, but CNN is a brand that is identifiable with news, while when you think of MSNBC, you think of liberal politics.

Replacing Ed Schultz at 6pm with Cenk Uyger is the reason for the dip in ratings on MSNBC (IMO). He’s just flat out annoying and his face to face interviews are a mess. He has no sync whatsoever. I watch MSNBC, but watching Cenk makes me want to switch channels.

Its indicative of the interchangeable liberal audience of CNN-MSNBC, and how both networks cater to them.

Puby says:

My parents are rich, biotch.

Dude, what are you 12?

Obtuse said:
They have three hours of hard news during the day: 12-1and 2-4 eastern typically. If its not Tamron Hall, chances are its politics.

My goodness, that is wonderfully moronic. I had to read it several times to make sure Michelle-in-Utah didn’t author it, and your grammar and syntax seemed to support that. However, you do have a broader vocabulary.

Politics is news. It may be somewhat distorted and dsiproportionate news, but news is it. Joe, Chuck and Savannah and Dylan are news. MSNBC doesn’t go commentary, only until Chris.

Publius219 said:
It speaks volumes that Fox’s viewers so heavily skew to the biggest welfare recipients in the US, the elderly, as they are more prone to believe the sorts of propaganda that the network spews. That sort of rubbish doesn’t work on younger people, but then again we don’t send chain letters anymore either, let alone believe the contents.

It speaks volumes that an MSNBC viewer doesn’t understand the key demo of 25-54. Hardly elderly, but that’s what I expect from a liberal who gets their news from comedy central.

Since MSNBC advocates for people in power as opposed to speaking truth to power, this makes them the teachers pet of cable news. How many segments on Fox news anchors can one take?

I’m still young but I’m old enough to know that journalism was about holding elected officials feet to the fire, not whether Glenn Beck misspelled oligarchy.

turk281 said:
I’m still young but I’m old enough to know that journalism was about holding elected officials feet to the fire.

Really? How often did FOX do that when Bush was President? How often have they done that with any GOP elected official?

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Puby says:

My parents are rich, biotch.

Dude, what are you 12?

Dave Chappelle.

cjd ohio 1 said:
and since your parents are rich, how many poor people did they screw over to get that money

Don’t try that on me. I like the Koch brothers, since they fund a lot of libertarian causes. Like I have repeatedly said, I am really not a liberal by any definition. I just resent the social conservative base of the GOP and think Fox News is subversive propaganda. One can hold those views and still maintain an independent political perspective. Hell, I want to abolish the income tax altogether in favor of the FairTax, and would consider voting for Huckabee if he promised to implement it.

JamesA1102 said:
Really? How often did FOX do that when Bush was President? How often have they done that with any GOP elected official?

Don’t know/don’t care. I’m a libertarian and I’m not defending Bush or Fox News’ coverage of him.

Bush is NOT president now.

The he/she did it first argument is silly.

I guess now we know why ‘Lawrence’ is always seething with rage: He’s a useless failure toiling for a cable channel that is also a useless failure.

turk281 said:
It speaks volumes that an MSNBC viewer doesn’t understand the key demo of 25-54. Hardly elderly, but that’s what I expect from a liberal who gets their news from comedy central.

A) I only watch Morning Joe on DVR, nothing else on MSNBC.

B) Yes, I understand the key demo. I also understand that the key demo makes up ~20-25% of Fox’s viewers, whereas on CNN it’s closer to about 1/3. I deduced that not many people under 25 are watching cable news, and therefore assumed that the rest of the viewers must be OLDER than the key demographic. So, it’s reasonable to say that a good majority of Fox’s audience is elderly, and in greater proportion than that of CNN.

So, actually, what I said still makes sense, since the elderly are more likely to get their news from cable than the internet, and the elderly are generally speaking statistically more prone to believing incorrect information. Nice try though.

tatboy said:
As they ALWAYS do. People just don’t go to MSNBC to get hard, probing news. Pun intended.

I’m kind of unclear what you mean by your pun? Hard and probing sounds like a cock but I can’t figure out what that has to do with MSNBC.

The ratings might have gone down to the fact MSNBC fired their mascot.

Also, technically, Liberals are Beating conservatives…

Fox is the only conservative station, so all the conservatives go there…

but the liberals don’t trust just one source so they go to the other three.

so really… it’s like conservatives are stuck on an island by themselves while everyone else cares about news and facts.

Goodjob! XD

COMCAST didn’t get to be where they are by being stupid!
You will be seeing major changes in programming format and personnel
in the near future.
Olberdork was the beginning!
Put yourself in COMCAST Mgts shoes!
Watch one complete day of MSNBC’ Programs.
Look at the ratings again!
BOARD MEETING!!! BOARD MEETING!!!
TOMORROW!!!
You heard it here!

For ratings sake, maybe they’ll send a correspondent or two over in the hopes they get slapped around like Anderson. I vote for Ed and Chris. I’d tune in to see that.

fanofamerica said:
For ratings sake, maybe they’ll send a correspondent or two over in the hopes they get slapped around like Anderson. I vote for Ed and Chris. I’d tune in to see that.

One Egyptian’s fist to Ed’s fat heat and gravy would seep out. I’d tune in to see that too!

The Real Royal King said:
My goodness, that is wonderfully moronic. I had to read it several times to make sure Michelle-in-Utah didn’t author it, and your grammar and syntax seemed to support that. However, you do have a broader vocabulary. Politics is news. It may be somewhat distorted and dsiproportionate news, but news is it. Joe, Chuck and Savannah and Dylan are news. MSNBC doesn’t go commentary, only until Chris.

Good God you need a life.

We want Olby!
We want Olby!

JamesA1102 said:
Really? How often did FOX do that when Bush was President? How often have they done that with any GOP elected official?

Obviously you’re just a leftwing robot who repeats whatever he’s told to by leftwing websites without bothering to investigate things yourself. If you were independent minded, you’d know how Fox scolded Bush over:

- immigration,
- prescription drug benefits,
- spending,
- Harriet Miers,
- No Child Left Behind,
- Georgia (the republic)

LOL!

For anyone in the business who knows Keith Olbermann, you’ll especially appreciate this question:

Do you think, in his own mind, Keith is taking credit for this Headline?

LOL!

The Real Royal King said:
dsiproportionate

disproportionate
You should not use words that you cannot spell…nincompoop.

Publius219 said:
People who receive 3 times what they paid into entitlement programs would technically be welfare recipients, would they not?

No, people who receive welfare payments are technically welfare recipients. People who put money into something and then take out more later are called investors.

Publius219 said:
I just resent the social conservative base of the GOP and think Fox News is subversive propaganda. One can hold those views and still maintain an independent political perspective. Hell, I want to abolish the income tax altogether in favor of the FairTax, and would consider voting for Huckabee if he promised to implement it.

Um…

fanofamerica said:
For ratings sake, maybe they’ll send a correspondent or two over in the hopes they get slapped around like Anderson. I vote for Ed and Chris. I’d tune in to see that.

.
For that I would be willing to don a burqa and join in! :)

Pablo said:
No, people who receive welfare payments are technically welfare recipients. People who put money into something and then take out more later are called investors.

.
In this case we investors were coerced into the investing.

NORBIT Jr. said:
LOL! For anyone in the business who knows Keith Olbermann, you’ll especially appreciate this question: Do you think, in his own mind, Keith is taking credit for this Headline? LOL!

To add on to your question:

Who thinks Olbermann is happy that his former MSNBC co-workers are failing?

turk281 said:
It speaks volumes that an MSNBC viewer doesn’t understand the key demo of 25-54. Hardly elderly, but that’s what I expect from a liberal who gets their news from comedy central.

Since MSNBC advocates for people in power as opposed to speaking truth to power, this makes them the teachers pet of cable news. How many segments on Fox news anchors can one take?

I’m still young but I’m old enough to know that journalism was about holding elected officials feet to the fire, not whether Glenn Beck misspelled oligarchy.

Did you even understand his post pumpkin?

Scott_in_MI said:
To add on to your question:

Who thinks Olbermann is happy that his former MSNBC co-workers are failing?

He is. Not because his coworkers are failing, but because the bosses threw him under the bus. He has a very good relationship with the liberal hosts on there despite his cantankerous demeanor.

Snowspot said:
Also, technically, Liberals are Beating conservatives…

Fox is the only conservative station, so all the conservatives go there…

but the liberals don’t trust just one source so they go to the other three.

so really… it’s like conservatives are stuck on an island by themselves while everyone else cares about news and facts.

Goodjob! XD

Conservatives hate seeing that pointed out during their ad populum arguments. More people watch “librul” or “MSM” programming than FOX. It absolutely destroys their premise of FOX’s ratings being superior because people want the “truth.” FNC is dominant because it’s the singular network catering and pandering to the righwing. Conservatives are the most populous ideological group in the US. Do the math.

Gasket said:
Conservatives are the most populous ideological group in the US. Do the math.

Correct – and for good reason.

@ Gasket

So what you’re saying is the left wins because they control the vast majority of the media. FNC gets good ratings because it’s the only place not dominated by left-wing bias, but it’s only one.

You realize that there are a few flaws in your arguement:
1) If that’s true, the fact that Republicans win any elections, means despite the virtual monopoly in media, the people aren’t buying it.
2) Why would the left and the WH spend so much time talking about FNC if their influence was so minor?
3) Is the fact that there is only one Conservative-respectful network because there isn’t the audience for it (no, we’ve seen there is), or because those who run media simply don’t want to be responsible for aiding their political enemies? Since when does the left trust “corporations” to do something good for “the public,” not themselves?

An interesting notion, and I appreciate the admission that the media at large is mostly slanted left… but the theory just doesn’t hold up.

The Real Royal King said:
My goodness, that is wonderfully moronic. I had to read it several times to make sure Michelle-in-Utah didn’t author it, and your grammar and syntax seemed to support that. However, you do have a broader vocabulary.

Politics is news. It may be somewhat distorted and dsiproportionate news, but news is it. Joe, Chuck and Savannah and Dylan are news. MSNBC doesn’t go commentary, only until Chris.

First, paragraphs should normally agree in tense, and all words should normally be spelled correctly if you aspire to correct others in language usage. Study the syntax of your last sentence for a lesson in irony.

Also, please don’t include me in your obsession with conservative women. I’m neither conservative nor woman so kindly aim your esoteric political misogynistic projections elsewhere. Actually, please do away with them all together.

Finally, reporting that is, in your words, distorted and (ahem) disproportionate is not news, more like propaganda or commentary by your description.

PS—This isn’t a protest event or a dissertation. No one cares how cool you sound on an internet blog. Your work here is not for a grade.

Lawrence O’Donnell needs a personality transplant.

It really does not matter….the on-airs at MSNBC will all be gone by July 1st.

The reason giving will be somthing like, We are listening to our audience and they have indicated they want a change.

All the Harrys in Callahan! Although I would never lower myself to watch Fox News (I prefer Al-Jazeera) I am an expert on all of Fox’s programming, and their demographic.

tatboy said:
As they ALWAYS do. People just don’t go to MSNBC to get hard, probing news. Pun intended.

They DO go to MSNBC, however, if they’re looking for their fill of marathon prison documentaries.

Pablo said:
So, people who have decades of life experience and decades of paying into mandatory government programs are stupid moochers? Nah, it’s probably just your parents.

That’s Publius’ problem, Pablo… he or other of his ilk have no appreciation for the respect, reverence, and knowledge our older generation can give us. The older generation are very sad to see the nation turn the way it has, but it wouldn’t have to be that way if folks like Publius would actually sit down and have a conversation with them every once in a while. They might learn something about history and about what made this country great. Hint: it’s not what Publius’ and his buddies are doing to it.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Gasket

So what you’re saying is . . .

Are you ever capable of using your OWN words – rather than constantly telling other people what they’re “saying”?

The media is dominated by conservative owners. GE owns MSNBC – at least until the even more conservative Comcast takes full control. News Corp, is owned and run by Chief Executive Obfuscator Rupert Moredreck. Neocon extremists like Richard Mellon Scaife own smaller, but no less ideologically pure, media operations.

Corporations are “virtual kingdoms,” and what the “king” says, goes . . . facts, truth and accuracy be damned.

A relative few media operations are dedicated to pulling the mask off of the conservative media monolith. They are outspent by deep-pocketed neocon ideologues who are intent on exploiting – rather than illuminating – the public. Nevertheless, people are slowly beginning to realize the inherent, top-down bias of Fakes “News” and its ilk – thanks to the tireless efforts of “lefty” organizations like DemocracyNow.org, MediaMatters.org and progressive radio host Thom Hartmann (.com), who simply report facts and truths.

Hartmann hosts conservative guests on almost every show, politely challenging them with intelligence and reason. They often leave somewhat battered by the experience.

The wingnut right created the mythical “liberal media” out of whole cloth – for the sole purpose of shredding it.

Ironically, too many consumers of all the right-wing lies, distortions and mischaracterizations of conservative media are all too happy to join in the fight against their own self-interests – choosing to dismiss any media voices that fail to pander to their illusions of a perfect, neocon-dominated world.

Even MORE ironically; once we’re all thoroughly trapped under an all-encompassing, fascist “corporatocracy,” those same people will wonder how it happened.

It doesn’t have to happen. The truth shall can set you free . . . if you choose to hear it.

Lawrence has a good show but he doesn’t have nearly the entertainment and conviction of Keith’s. Don’t know if anybody will. Yes, Keith was very opinionated but he based his opinions on facts. Not vice-versa like Fox.