Ron Paul wasn’t vetted?  These media talking heads are clueless.

He’s been blasted for these same things for the past 4 years in the media.   It’s ALL rehashes from before.

Why didn’t he drop in the polls after being “vetted” over the newsletters?  Because most everyone already knows.

Just goes to show how full the media is of themselves.    Apparently they believe if they didn’t tell you something, then you don’t know and it didn’t happen.

When it comes to foreign policy, the so called “Crazy” things, are the reasons we support him.    Because you(the media) call things like voting against the loss of civil rights crazy.

The media likes to throw out poll numbers.   Why don’t they throw out the ones where 70% of the population doesn’t trust the media.

Maybe it’s time we vetted the media.

Greg Gutfeld disgusts me. He has said in the past that he “agrees with just about everything Ron Paul says.”  But then he insists on insulting the man and playing bash Ron Paul to fit in with his four clueless friends. What a spineless weasel.  Ron Paul is a giant compared to such media wimps. 

I bet you think he is a “Damn good Candidate” Bob! He would be a good candidate for Obama and the liberals to destroy, which I am sure you want.

It is sick to hear Eric Bolling say in the same interview:

“Ron Paul has boatloads of Baggage”

and

“It is about time someone said something positive about Newt”

Anyone see the irony?

NO ONE BUT RON PAUL 2012! End the Fed, End the Wars!!

Stop listening to political pundits who filter the news through their own paradigm. All of the information they sift through is available to you if you are willing to put in the time. As JFK said “The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.” 

Paul is not relevent. He can not win.

So, you get ignorance by listening to varied opinions? Hmmmm…..

It’s turned from comical to sad.

We all need to grasp that fact.

More like “crazy uncle is driving the clown car.’  And that’s at any given time, whether it’s Ron the crazy uncle or Gnewt the crazy uncle or Rick Perry the crazy uncle.  The GOP field consists of nothing but passengers in the clown car

Greg Gutfeld used to be a Libertarian, but to make it up the Fox News corporate ladder he needed  to sell out to the Roger Ailes neocons. A few weeks ago when Gutfeld actually said Al Qaeda attacked us on 9/11 “because of who we are,” I nearly threw up my tiramisu.

Go Paul, and prove them wrong!

“Why didn’t he drop in the polls after being “vetted” over the newsletters?” 

Because most republicans, especially the teabaggers, view racist beliefs as a plus on a candidates resume and love him all the more for it. 

Being called crazy by the cretins on The Five is like being called a pedophile by Jerry Sandusky. They know their own.

From political pundits, yes. They are part of the machine, they use divisive language to split the body politic into seperate factions. They stereotype entire groups of people and pander to their listeners. They are mouths for hire and their words often reflect those of the person who signs the check.

dad and son are both crazy..

There is no manner in which Ron Paul’s well documented past of racially insensitiv­e writings and publicatio­ns can simply be explained away or ignored. Every American that hears what Ron Paul believes in regard to race will be shocked and deeply offended. The Constituti­on does not protect racist lies or vicious hate speech. Ron Paul must apologize for his behavior and then drop out of the Republican race immediatel­y. He is an embarrassm­ent to his party.  www.sunstateactivist.org

The Republican Party is an embarrassment to America.

The neocons are terrified that Ron Paul will reopen an independent investigation into the 911 event, with the inevitable finding of Israel’s involvement.

I think the racist charge has lost most of its power.

MSNBC broke the race card lol

Ron Paul will make a great President.

no one cares what The Five think. Dana Perrino? gimmee a break. Blankley still has bruises from being on the macloughlin group during Iraq and getting made fun of for carrying bushes water every week. He’s much happier on a show like this I’m sure.

You’re such a silly DNC slave! lol.

But it’s ok when it’s muslims and gays right?

that is why i don’t know why he would have his name scrubbed from a white supremacy show five years ago.

The story so far: apparently Ron Paul was scheduled to appear on the notorious radio show “The Political Cesspool,” a talk show in Tennessee connected to the white separatist Council of Conservative Citizens and the Holocaust denial group Institute for Historical Review.The announcement of Ron Paul’s appearance was posted on the blog of Political Cesspool co-founder Austin Farley: Congressman Ron Paul TONIGHT On The Cesspool.http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39664_Ron_Paul_Was_Scheduled_to_Appear_on_a_White_Supremacist_Radio_Show_in_2006 

So what do you think Ron Paul believes in regard to race?  You have obviously been reading only the headlines and don’t have a clue about what Ron Paul thinks with regard to race. Here is a short video where he discusses race issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMQmInReYlI 

perino fit in perfectly as the spokesperson for bush.

“I was panicked a bit because I really don’t know about . . . the Cuban Missile Crisis,” said Perino, who at 35 was born about a decade after the 1962 U.S.-Soviet nuclear showdown. “It had to do with Cuba and missiles, I’m pretty sure.” 

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“The Five On Ron Paul’s Iowa Lead: ‘Crazy Uncle Is Driving The Car’”

You know, I’ve noticed in the last few years that there really isn’t a difference between the Democrats and Republicans. They both try to grow the influence and power of government, they will use any excuse possible to go to war, they will run up the debt without apology or hesitation, they both continue to happily use Keynesian Economic(crony capitalism) to destroy our currency and fiscal standing, and they both continue to create and pass legislation that erodes away our liberty’s.

Every once in a while a politician will say that what they’re doing is wrong and they will change the way things work. Then they go back to work and do the same thing over and over and over again.  When somebody does something continuously again and again while expecting different results, last I checked, is a sure sign of madness.  So… knowing the way our government continues to work, including the people who support it, is insane. Maybe the reality is Ron Paul, the only guy proposing to do things differently, is the only sane guy in the room and everybody else who wants to keep things status quo are the crazy uncles driving the car.

Because you said so, right? I don’t know about you, but I don’t say what I don’t believe, unless I’m being sarcastic. Pundits can always find an ideologically aligned outlet for their views, and you don’t often see anyone insisting that their ideology be adhered to outside of academia.

You sound paranoid.

Shouldn’t we be talking about what a pathetic, unwanted, lonely loser you are for trolling Mediaite on Christmas Eve, Kook?

right, huh?  it’s like they have no respect at all for the presidency and all that that title holds.  donald trump?  rick perry?  herman cain?  herman freakin cain??!!!???

    Greg Gutfield? isn’t that the midget Rupert found on some sideshow in a jar?  Now to anchor this carnival show? I guess clowns like this are what Fox viewers listen to? Shame, so much more could be accomplished at 5.. like taking out the garbage. cleaning around the toilet bowl.. I’m sure once Gutfield gets his call from Barnum he will be gone from that show…. Beckel has his little Red nose ball in his pocket just waiting for this moment they can all share in.. I can see the gurls there turning side show markers, tights and all.. something they are capable of, just smiles.. and then there is the baboon in the middle..sigh.. What a wasted show this one is.

“…
Why didn’t he drop in the polls after being “vetted” over the newsletters?  Because most everyone already knows….”

I don’t think that is the case.  I believe Ron Paul supporters know of it, but people who weren’t aware of the man had no idea this was lurking in his background.

Oh Fox “News” Channel, will your attacks on Ron Paul never end?

It has become the main bipartisan  in Washington.. Democrats sign on for War and Republicans sign on for entitlements..  in the end.. The People lose..  More taxes.. more uncalled for deaths by troops.. overall a failed system that needs fixing.

Time for change..

Ron Paul 2012 and Beyond

You’ve never uttered one racist remark in all your life? Not even 20 years ago? Get off your high horse prick!

hey snow white–get out of that house of mirrors….
it is driving you batty,,,
you do not even have an original thought anymore..
you just repeat what others say about you…
you are a monkey see–monkey doo doo..

amen~

he at least give the gop hope of keeping an ounce of respect…

it is like having one tooth left…you can still eat corn …

Wow,let me suggest you stay on msnbc and watch chrissy drooly and his band of libs..it will give you a thrill up your leg along with al,never met a jew i liked,sharpton,mister ed,a lib gay gals dream,schultz along with mrs alan greenspan and the rest of the libs on their air…we love the 5 most of the time and they like most good talk shows is entertaining…msnbc must agree since they started their own 5 talk show which really sucks….

America is mostly Republican so the rest of you dems and libs can move off shore anytime….

It’s been reported on constantly.   Even in the major media.  CNN ran the story back in 2008.

They always bring it up.   Heck, people bring it up comments all the time.   If someone didn’t know, it’s because they don’t follow politics at all, probably don’t vote, or would just be voting for whoever the media told them too anyway.

Let me put it another way.   People don’t just up and support Ron Paul on a whim, and it’s doubtful they ever will considering the way the media treats him.   As such, the people who support him mostly knew already because we researched the guy, and anyone who was ever going to vote for him would likely have done the same.

Outside that, I personally believe most people just use it as an excuse because they don’t like his policies, not because they believe he actually is a racist.  It’s painfully obvious to those who follow this stuff.

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1uc7x4a8SM

Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of anthropology and sociology would have understood that making the news letters an issue, for a third time, was an insult to the voters. The issue had already been vetted. Besides, it ignores the basic human survival instinct toward suspicion of outsiders. Such political correctness hasn’t fixed racism, it has only driven it under ground, in the closet. Ron Paul is not a racist, but a great many average people, of all colors, still are, and the are resenting the high- handed was of these attacks. It is no wonder they are back firing.

Ron Paul Newsletter SCAM:

That’s textbook FRAUD.

Not only do his core supporters have NO PROBLEM with the racist views in the newsletter, they apparently had no problem being duped out of their money.

The Media is too stupid to focus on the right issue in regard to the Newsletter…ie catching Paul in his obvious attempts to obfuscate his role in writing the newsletter.

I’m more concerned with what he ACTUALLY admits:

Yes, he was the publisher. Yes, he signed the Newsletters. Yes, his subscribers believed they were buying his views if not his actual writings. And, yes, he made money off them.

That’s textbook FRAUD.

Is Gutfeld Jewish? If so, shouldn’t there be a law for people in media to disclose their bias before they smear public figures? Would say the same when someone like ABC’s Amanpoor covers Iran

Not succumbing to media’s barrage of indoctrination efforts to make us viscerally want to eviscerate everything in Israel’s surroundings is far from ‘hating’ Israel

And yet they refuse to focus on the real issue: FRAUD.

Just like Bernie Madoff. This was a scam to get people’s money. 

It’s not about IS RON PAUL a RACIST?

His subscribers were duped out of their money.The Media is too stupid to focus on the right issue in regard to the Newsletter

I’m more concerned with what Ron Paul ACTUALLY admits:Yes, he was the publisher. Yes, he signed the Newsletters. Yes, his subscribers believed they were buying his views if not his actual writings. And, yes, he made money off them.That’s textbook FRAUD.

Consider this internet-researched defense.  It is better researched than nearly all “professional” journalists have done so far.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/76280303/PaulNewslettersFaq-Tunk

Dr Ron Paul’s philosophy helps us filter the NeoLiberals/NeoCon endless war agenda from the Civil Libertarians and the true Conservatives!  It’s such a wonderful spectacle to watch the media explode in full view of the waking american nation, and just in time for the New Year!!!

I suppose putting 1100 people out of work and fast tracking a 500 million dollar loan to an outfit that went bankrupt and it’s investors walking away unscathed while the taxpayers are left holding the bag. couldn’t be scene as fraud in any way shape or form…One of those investors, a billionaire and contributor to BO’s re election bid mind you. This and the whole time touting job creation and ending dependence on foriegn oil, a stellar moment for a his green technology program. Nah that could be fraud…but it is failure on an epic scale.

“….As such, the people who support him mostly knew already because we researched the guy….”

Like I said….after denying it, you basically refute your statement.

I work in the TV biz and I had no idea until this week that this was in his past.

I hadn’t thought of it that way, but you are right. People were paying for something that they were led to believe was Ron Paul’s ideas, or at least ideas that Ron Paul endorsed. Having no bylines even shows intent. They were defrauded — in Ron Paul’s name.

Those who are trying to defend Ron Paul by saying this is all old news are being wrong-headed. This story has legs, and it is revealing something important about Ron Paul’s character. People will want to know more, and barring some other big news story, we will be seeing more and more details of these newsletters.

What do you do when you have no defense? Deflect. Deflect.

I thought you righties said deflection was a liberal trait . . .

there’s no crazy uncle just the corrupt establishment driving the car strait down the ravine into the pits of hell.  And this article is no different: lying about whether or not Ron Pual has been vetted before.  See his 2008 interview with Wolf blitzer.  Liars!

im gay and  have followed ron paul since 2008 and he has alway been on the side of  freedom the media is selling fear and hate not ron paul.you dont have to read far into those news letters to know he did not right them  its just not his view at all if anyones unsure read them and compare

he sent you a link its a smear from 2008  most of his supporters knew of it back then

Thank you. I finally got through to somebody out there.

I wonder why the MSM hasn’t picked up on this?

Most of his supporters may not mind being defrauded by Ron Paul, they worship him so much.

But for the rest of the country, we’d like to know if we’re voting for a grifter or not.

grifters just say anything to get through the current argument…

typical con artist tactic

No to mention what UKABEK is saying is nearly indecipherable

So you concluded that your screed doesn’t amount to “fraud” just epic failure.

Ok, glad you worked through that.

Now address Ron Paul’s fraudulent newsletter scam.

well, if he did not write them, he was committing fraud

subscribers thought he was writing them or at least endorsing them as his own ideas.

if that’s not what a signature is for, what is it for then?

easy answer: it’s to mislead and deceive

He denied his subscribers the freedom to know the truth about what they were buying from him

Rupert calls these “commentary shows” not NEWS..  This allows them to smear anyone without recourse.. it’s like Saturday morning cartoons.. those that watch and actually listen to shows like this are suppose to have crayons and coloring books for commercial time.

Naw, appreciate the offer but I don’t watch either unless I want some giggles.. I cannot believe Americans actually find anything of interest in any of these so called commentary shows.. nothing of any use on any of those Major? networks worth watching.  Just facts in the NEWS is all I look for.. the rest is political and corporate ploys for an agenda. Quite useless to  a regular guy on the street  with common sense.

You know,you make alot of sense,maybe to much time watching tv…

And that pretty much speaks to the quality of he TV biz.

Again, it’s not even new. If you didn’t see it, then you didn’t pay attention.

No, it’s not textbook fraud. It’s textbook the way things actually work in such a business.

He said he puts it out, as in he publishes. He did. In no manner does he say that he writes it all, and all this stuff you say. He did contribute at times, mostly on economics(which is what he is usually promoting as well).

This is a textbook case of you not liking Ron Paul’s policies, and looking for any dirt and way you can to assassinate the mans character, rather than debating on the issues.

If I thought the man was a racist or would in any manner promote things that would treat people based on race, I wouldn’t vote for him, much less support him.

It’s clear to me it’s not even close to being true. Some of the most true words on the problem of racism I’ve ever heard came from Ron Paul. He correctly sees and defines the ignorance of it. A racist is unable to make that connection and views people as being group based rather than individuals.

I truely believe if they could get Beckel to wear blackface and prance him around.. they would..  Beckel I guess after becoming the drunk and then recovering finds this as an honor for him to have a job?  better off left in the bottle.

what’s the premise here? oh yeah 4 Reps on one Dem.. carnival show is about as high as I can rate this one… just my opinion.

Well,I thought you might be one of the reasonable commenters but this last comment shows how I was so wrong…Nobody is forcing you to watch anything…just grab you local newspaper or maybe Ron Pauls old newsletters…Lots of stuff in those for bigots and dummies

I suppose all those people who buy political biographies that make no mention of the fact that they were ghost written are also victims of actionable fraud? 

At the press conference introducing his ghostwritten
post-presidential autobiography An American Life, Ronald Reagan
quipped “I hear it’s terrific. Maybe someday I’ll read it.”  I don’t remember Reagan getting thrown in jail for fraud, in fact, the book sold pretty well.  Your argument for fraud is silly, since legal contracts regarding ghost writing are upheld in our code of law.     
Should Paul be criticized for failing to properly exercise control over a publication that bore his name?  Yes.  Should he be smeared as a fraud and a racist for admittedly being neglectful about the publication of his newsletter?  No. 

This is an old story from 2008 and then like now it lacks any significant traction. Dr. Paul’s soaring numbers in the polls is evidence of that. Scam you say? Who got bilked? It didn’t effect his 11 successful bids to congress where he is the chairman of the Financial Services Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology. Your desparation is apparent, after you realized the racist thing was going nowhere you changed your tune and tryed the fraud angle. Tsk tsk tsk…clutching at straw. It’s not too late for you to embrace real change and throw off the shackels of false hope.

Just curious. Have you read the letters ?

Comments such as Huckabee’s imply that passion in a candidate’s followers is a bad thing — at least when the candidate is Ron Paul — because you’d have to be crazy to brave a blizzard to vote in a caucus (or something like that). When will the GOP leadership  wake up and realize, hey, we NEED these passionate people if we are to have any hope of beating Obama? IMO, the Republicans should be taking people like this a bit more seriously: 
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/message-to-the-GOP/

USS, this is a case of media, NeoCons and Socialists wanting to make Ron Paul go away. They all know what will happen with Ron Paul in the White House. NEW GAME!! Let’s call it the Constitution Game…  No more monopoly money, no more stranglehold on Washington by the political bed partners in the Neocon Right and Tel Aviv, AIPAC, no more war mongering over biblical prophecies at America’s expense, much more transparency in our lobby/bribery oligarchy power elite…

There is so much to lose for the crooks in Washington, Wall St. and Media, that they are going to fight Ron Paul right up until he stands up and places his hand on the bible in 2013.

We are going to see a regime change in our own country..

Well that makes sense. The media totally blacked him out until he gained so much power, now they are attacking him. The next step? He wins..

Stevil, you are correct about that. This attack is not about the racism, it’s about Ron Paul’s key issues that threaten the fortunes and corrupt factions in our national government and corporate oligarchy. It’s also about preventing any national discussion on our very corrupt relationship with Israel. The ruler elites are trying to maintain their obscurity in the public eye because they know what Ron Paul’s transparency means for their futures.

Some of these thieves may even fear a little incarceration for their corruption.

We don’t need to. If there is any truth to it, I’ll just do the plus/minus list for each candidate.. Ron Paul still comes out on top. Barack Obama included.

i find that your  view is held by nearly all paul supporters.i found it hard to support a christain canadate   but his logic just got to me in the end,i realised i was putting people in grand  groups myself a type of action that had hurt me for  many years. now i judge people by their personal  actions . ron paul fixed me of my own bigotry  lol.

back it up you the only person calling fraud the media is selling those letters as his own view and the view of those how support him thats why we are  pissed.its slimmy smear of scared people who dont know how to tackle his core ideas of liberty

we are buying his ideas of liberty.thats what he is selling thats why he has strong support.he wants to make the president’s pay the same as the avarge  tax payer does that sound like a man bent on gaining wealth or someone who believe in in the importance of his ideas..those kind of actions don’t seem to fit with him being fraudulent 

he criticized himself for not exerciseing control over what was being writin in his name i was glad to see him admit that but him  being such a unknown statesmen way back then i could understand how he could miss it.

Yeah! Way to write people off!

Because it’s not fraud  – It’s negligence, and while that’s not orthodox either, it’s certainly forgivable.

It’s very simple: People who do not want to like Ron Paul, will accept the controversy as fact, and those who feel contrary will not.

The newsletters are indefensible.  He should address it and admit his mistakes.  Until he does that, he’ll have to deal with the repeated smears.

keep in mind the media is not a non profit enterprise; it is run by the same corporations whose lobbyists are backing the other candidates.