Fox News Disputes Dean’s Charges, But Admits Online “Breakdown” In Sherrod Story
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The most important story on cable news last week has continued into this week – Fox News was back talking about the Shirley Sherrod saga on TV and online.
Bret Baier responded with video evidence to Howard Dean’s latest charges, while FNC admitted there had been an online “breakdown” in the publication of a story about Sherrod before it was announced she resigned.
In a “fact check” segment on Special Report last night, Baier responded to what Dean said on MSNBC’s The Ed Show by visually displaying what we’ve been saying for a week – the out-of-context clip didn’t air on Fox News until Bill O’Reilly’s 8pmET show. “Not a single frame of that video hit the air all day,” he said, while the entire day’s programming played in fast forward.
Unfortunately for Baier, he’s already behind – Dean has moved on from this initial charge and expanded his criticism to how O’Reilly and Sean Hannity covered the story Monday night and the rest of the week. This cannot be disputed with some video evidence.
Meanwhile the one Fox News entity that did touch the Breitbart video before Sherrod’s resignation was FoxNews.com – a point some have continued to focus on. Politico talked to Fox News SVP Michael Clemente, and he did admit a “breakdown” that led to the story’s publication:
But FoxNews.com did run a story about the existence of the video, titled “Video Shows USDA Official Saying She Didn’t Give ‘Full Force’ of Help to White Farmer” at 5:58 p.m. on Monday, an hour before the Agriculture Department announced Sherrod’s resignation. And Wednesday, Clemente told POLITICO that was a mistake.
“There was a breakdown in the system, and it is being addressed,” he said. “But it must say something about the power of Fox, that a week after she resigned, we’re still talking about this.”
According to Sherrod’s timeline, 5:58pmET is still after she was forced to resign (she had to do it “before Glenn Beck” at 5pmET). But this was an admission of a mistake nonetheless.
Here’s the Baier segment (via Johnny Dollar):
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Thank God MSNBC – “The Home of Race Bating” now has some copy for their teleprompters for the next week or so.
“…the power of Fox, that a week after she resigned, we’re still talking about this.” — So True!
I am curious where the MSNCB – “The Home of Race Baiting” employees think they will get a job after the Comcast deal is done! Now that will be interesting to watch!
FOX does us all a favor. They round up all the racists, get their blood boiling, and then they step back and educate them.
“Expanded … criticism”?
FOX’s role in the firing was never the chief complaint about FOX. The chief complaint has always been that FOX seized upon the Breitbart lie, perpetuated it, propogated it. Why are we buying into the FOX diversion here so readily? I don’t understand this gallant effort to try to redeem FOX. Is FOX worth redemption? I think not. Paris may have been worth a mass, FOX is not!
AT FOX, HONESTY
IS NOT OUR POLICY.
Haha, seems royal race-baiter is upset Fox is still on the air and going stronger than ever. You didn’t really think the left’s coordinated effort would take them down, did you? Oh, I think you did.
And Val, Your statement is beyond ridiculous and deserves no further mention.
“Paris may have been worth a mass”
Uh-oh, Royal is trying to get all intellectual on our ass. While Royal has obviously learned nothing from history, he may actually have read some. Hmmm. On second thought, no. It’s more likely he picked up that reference in a crossword puzzle.
Good morning, miserable Michelle.
Actually why would I want FOX to disappear? It does such an excellent job of telling all reasonable Americans just how unreasonable the radical right is. FOX has a purpose. To be sure, it is not to deliver the news. Indeed, has it ever even tried? It’s purpose is not to disseminate lies. Others, like Breitbart and Lard Limbaugh do that just as well. It’s purpose is to segregate and quarantine the radical right that we might better see it and know what it is doing. No, America needs FOX to perform just this task.
AT FOX, HONESTY
IS NOT OUR POLICY.
Actually, I’m not miserable at all, but it appears the last couple weeks have REALLY taken a toll on you race-baiter. Maybe you should take a little break, and soak in the tub with a pepsi. You’ll feel better.
Hmmm… I forget, who was it that fired Sherrod?
The Secretary of Agriculture, but that is not the point, is it? The point is Breitbart’s lies and deceptions and FOX’s willingness, indeed eagerness to perpetuate, promote and propogate them.
AT FOX, HONESTY
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I just reached a point at which I wasn’t willing to see constant lies unchallenged. If that bothers you ….
AT FOX, HONESTY
IS NOT OUR POLICY.
FOX need not “dispute” with Dean. They only needed to mention who made the charge and people would know it was a lie.
Why do most liberal bloggers come off as unintelligent and lazy? I’ve never actually witnessed a liberal blogger, make a coherent argument. Every liberal on this website has one argument, which is to call non-liberals a ‘racist.’ Personally, if all I had to offer in a discussion, was typing, ‘racist, racist, racist’, all day, 24/7 on a blog, I’d be embarrassed. For the sake of argument, let us all give these liberal drones the benefit of a doubt, and assume that all non-liberals are racists. With this assumption, what else do you liberals have to offer? Why should America not have the right, to control its borders and enforce Congressionally approved immigration laws? Why should American taxpayers have to pay for health care and welfare, for illegals? After 9-11-2001, why do we have troops fighting and dying in Afghanistan, for our ’safety’, yet, our borders are wide open for anyone to cross? Can just one of you liberal dumbasses, make an intelligent argument? Remove the ‘r, a, c, i, s, t’ keys from your keyboard and actually think for once. Freaking dumbasses.
Royal Race-Baiter says:
I just reached a point at which I wasn’t willing to see constant lies unchallenged
And NOW you know how the right has felt for years. Sucks doesn’t it!!
This is such an infantile ‘gotcha’ game that the MSM and the Obama government is trying to play with Fox News. It wouldn’t make the gov and the MSM look quite as stupid (and desperate) if the OTHER networks and online medium hadn’t aired at LEAST as much and in many cases MUCH MORE than FNC had that day.
Obama officials had really thought this would be their path to taking over the media..and especially Fox.. but …tsk tsk tsk.. Fox didn’t play along as gullibly as they had thought (hoped). I’m sure another white house plan of attack is in the works though.
You’d think they’d notice that these games do nothing but drive Fox’s ratings up.
Wow- what a remarkable and pleasant day it is without the bootlicker.
Knock on wood, notsofast, before he shows up!!
Boot probably has tests today in summer school make up classes.
I looked at some of his postings, and on Tuesday, he was on from 6:30am to at least 1:15AM Wednesday morning and back on at 8:30AM again on Wednesday until who knows what time. 17 straight hours and more!
Yeah, he’s really been on a roll the last couple days. Dude is a little out there.
Google has page upon page, of information on ‘white liberal guilt.’ What I don’t get, personally, about white liberal guilt is, how does projecting their own guilt onto others, with all the constant references to ‘racism’, ease their own guilt? If someone is an alcoholic, would anything be accomplished by calling everyone else an alcoholic? We all have to face our own demons; projection doesn’t resolve anything. A good therapist would be a great first step.
OK fine Fox did not play the edited video before Shirley Sherrod got fired.But they did play it without making what a legitimate news organazation would do.Verify the accuracy and source and that it was submitted by a trusted news outlet that could be trusted.Well they did not and that Breibart video fooled the NAACP,the AG dept and Fox news.All are guilty of a rush to judgement.
well, don’t you think that AFTER she got fired that news organizations MAY want to report on such an event?? I mean..the WHITE HOUSE and the NAACP and the USDA ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL thought it was an important enough story to fire the woman. If Fox News made an error in judgement……I’d say that the WH, NAACP and the USDA made the error first and worst. Absent the firing…… you don’t know if it would have made the airwaves at ALL.
I’d like to congratulate the media for finally being concerned about accuracy. Of course, it’s only because it involves FNC and some black chick but hey, welcome to the party. Now, I’d like for Mediaite & Politico to get statements from every outlet that has forwarded the lie that John Lewis was called the “N” word 15 times. I’d like for Mediaite & Politico to get statements from NBC News about showing a doctored clip of a black tea-partier carrying a can whose skin color was cropped in order for NBC News to call that person a racist white honky cracker. I’d like for Mediaite & Politico to go back through the thousands of times someone in the MSM, especially NBC news, has called a conservative a racist or a nazi simply because they don’t believe in big government. Of course, we’ll never see this happen because, well, Mediaite & Politico can’t spin it to call FNC “racist”. According to our inept & corrupt MSM, if you don’t agree with Obama’s policies, you’re racist. Yep, 1930’s Germany is a lot of fun. Thanks Obama & MSM.
The Snake-Oil Salesman COWERED from the (100th Anniversary) Boy Scouts of America, so he could shmooze with his VAPID Voter Base!
This is a man of little integrity.
Not really. But, I’m not a person given to bitterness and despair.
AT FOX, HONESTY
IS NOT OUR POLICY.
The Neocons’ Trotskyite origins are apparent as they attempt to redefine “black” as “white” and intolerance as a virtue.
“The whole literature of the past will have been destroyed. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Byron—they’ll exist only in Newspeak versions, not merely changed into something different, but actually contradictory of what they used to be.”
“Atlantic Triangular Trade” anyone?
Steve, while I and others appreciate you covering this story, apparently RRK thinks it is beating a dead horse. Even though people, like Dean and Media Matters, continue to spread the lies, according to RRK it is somehow “beating a dead horse”….
Royal Race-Baiter says:
But, I’m not a person given to bitterness and despair.
Clearly, that’s NOT true.
I’m glad that they’ve finally admitted ownership of FoxNews.com and have clarified that it’s part of Fox News.
I’m sure that I may have irritated one or two people with my occasional, yet repetitive queries about the separation they appeared to have made between the website and the news division, but I’m glad to see that I should put the same amount of trust into their website as I put into their television channel.
As for FoxNation… I’ve only been there once or twice because it seems to mostly be an opinion site and activist aggregator, so I have no problem with the idea that it doesn’t carry the full force of Fox News. I guess it’s sort of like how About.com is a division of the New York Times Company, but not the New York Times.
You are either misquoting or misconstruing, again. What is beating a dead horse is the constant, erroneous contention that there was a widespread belief or assertion that FOX News caused the firing. It did not. The Secretary of Agriculture fired Ms. Sherrod precipitously and improperly. His admission is abundant proof of that without resort to the tedious and tiresome timelines or Brett’s constant moaning.
The primary contention is and has always been that Breitbart lied and that FOX perpetuated, promoted and propogated that lie. That is the sordid, ugly essence. We have a self-proclaimed media giant which has unveiled its hideous face, the face of a liar.
Now, I know, it is easy and convenient to miscast this as firing matter. Demonstrably, that is not true. It is much more difficult to confront the dishonesty matter. In fact, we readily see that from FOX promoters focusing on the firing and, uncharacteristically, providing details, whilst responding to the dishonesty charge with, “No, you are lying.” and “Well the MSM lies all the time.” There has been no substantive defense of the lying charge, and, indeed none exists.
The dead horse is the clumsy diversionary tactic.
Perhaps, due to your distance and detachment, this is not as clear to you as it is to those who live in America, so I’ll not ascribe malice to you.
AT FOX, HONESTY
IS NOT OUR POLICY.
PS – Steve) Thanks for following-up on this story.
What an interesting post. Thought provoking. Thank you very much indeed for contributing something so interesting.
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No, silly, that isn’t Trotskyite Neocons, that is Marxist Progressives.
Tell it to Glenn Beck.
That’s awesome how Breitbart fooled the NAACP with a clip from a video that they own, of their event.
Kind of hard to misquote when I cut and paste the entire post you wrote.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/howard-dean-fires-back-at-fox-news-response-to-racism-accusation/#comment-105916
Oh, so you mean when everyone was repeating the charge that she was forced to resign because she was going to appear on FOX, and that FOX aired her tape continuously all day long (according to Dean), no one was blaming FOX for her firing?
FAIL!
The NYT, Shirley Sherrod, The Today Show, The NAACP, and many others blamed FOX.
Howard Dean and RRk, two liars in a lie.
That sure is a big load of gibberish to avoid addressing the central issue. As usual.
AT FOX, HONESTY
IS NOT OUR POLICY.
Hey you right wing geezers and hatemongers heres an idea give some cold hard cash to your beloved Britefart, a BRITEFART LEGAL DEFENSE FUND, HA,HA and rupert too since as far as anyone knws he still owns foxnews.com HA,HA!
Pray tell how exactly you think I avoided the issue?
“What is beating a dead horse is the constant, erroneous contention that there was a widespread belief or assertion that FOX News caused the firing. ” – RRK
I addressed your central issue. I proved you wrong. Extremely wrong. As usual.
And as usual, you completely ignore the facts, and just insult.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/29/sherrod-says-she-will-sue-andrew-breitbart/
The King claims that he’s done community service, and that’s how he knows that racism only exists in the white race. How picking up paper by the roadside using a stick with a nail in it made him aware of this, I don’t know.
I guess sarah and hotair will soon see what the suit will involve, TEE and a HEE
interesting that king, who never misses an opportunity to respond to me, with insults, has decided to run away and avoid the fact that he lied and doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about….
sara, in a post to me, the King was mocking the fact that I went to an inner city school and saw that other races besides the white race can indeed be racist. The King went to lily white private schools, but was lecturing me on my ‘racism’ by countering that he’d done community service. In his entire time in the inner city, he evidently never encountered any person of color who had racist leanings. I suspect the King does bend the truth occasionally.
Sorry. I didn’t realize you had a reading disability. Maybe this will help:
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It won’t matter. Sara N. Italy will just make something up, wrap it in shrill and present it to us.
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What a liar you are!
I was very specific in saying that I worked with young men and women, most of whom were prostitutes and drug abusers, trying to help them turn their lives around. Frankly, I think that’s pretty admirable. What a shame you had to lie about it.
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newzmaker says: “Why do most liberal bloggers come off as unintelligent and lazy? I’ve never actually witnessed a liberal blogger, make a coherent argument. Every liberal on this website has one argument, which is to call non-liberals a ‘racist.’ ”
That’s bull dung. Glenn Beck is not a racist! He’s a race-baiting propagandist, a liar, a hypocrite and a mean-spirited charlatan; but he’s not a racist.
At least not that I have found.
“According to Sherrod’s timeline, 5:58pmET is still after she was forced to resign (she had to do it “before Glenn Beck” at 5pmET). But this was an admission of a mistake nonetheless.”
This is the sort of faulty logic that just abounds in this discussion.
Steve, Baier made “an admission of a mistake” based upon an incorrect presumption.
The fact that Baier had his facts wrong and apologized for something that did not happen, is NOT a mere incidental to his having made an apology in the first place.
sheesh…
I’ll add that Baier need not view the continued anti-FNC attempts to circumvent and to spin the facts as an example of FNC’s influence upon the psyches of some parties. An absolutely ASTOUNDING example of the power of FOX is the abject fear shown by Sherrod’s overlords towards one Glenn Beck!
THAT was astonishing!
cece, when was foxnews.com not a part of fox news and so billo apologized for defaming her for no reason, yeah right you wingers are a trip
“The chief complaint has always been that FOX seized upon the Breitbart lie, perpetuated it, propogated it. ”
mmm….sort of like the White House and NAACP did? Smoke und mirrors.
No, Penguin, you watch too much right wing noise. The White House and the NAACP reacted before getting the facts, just like FoxNews.com did.
The action and statements that O’Reilly apologized for are no more “racist” (Howard Dean’s word) or untruthful than parties on other networks, who were also reporting and commenting on the video. In fact, at the time, O’Reilly’s thoughts were in league with those of the NAACP…
O’Reilly’s or Baier’s apologies do not make the tv channel or the website more culpable as to the timing of the coverage either.
I’m afraid that in flogging THIS long…long… dessicated carcass… you must settle for descriptors such as FOX’s “gusto” in reporting the story… You don’t have anything left.
Yes, when you are proven a liar, and shown the facts, you are left with nothing but your drivel and insults. Which is 100% of the time.
RRK, HONESTY AND REALITY
ARE NOT HIS POLICY.
Can you actually read cece, Billos public apology for demeaning Shirley Sherrod on the fox news airwaves are could be a “factor” (no fun intended) in a lawsuit that Shirley Sherrod could bring against fox news (and of course theres that whole “breakdown admission at foxnews.com) especially if there were discoveries that britefart had conversations with fox producers setting the whole thing up. so chances are rupert will make britefart settle. HA.HA
Well, since you hadn’t voiced all your dreams and fantasies until now, Iris, I don’t know how I could have read them.
Good luck with playing Dr. Frankenstein on this dead story.
How disappointing. More diversions from the central issue: FOX News perpetuated, promoted, propagated, and prolonged the lies of the despicable and deplorable Breitbart. Did you ever think that if Imelda Marcos had had her Eva Peron “Don’t Cry for Me, Argentina” moment, simply fessed up that she had a shoe obsession and fetish, it would have all been over? Don’t you think just admiting that FOX perpetuated, promoted, propagated and the lies of the despicable and deplorable Breitbart might end this and allow FOX to try to rebuild some modicum of credibility? The first step in recovery has never been denial and diversion.
Have a lovely evening.
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RRK, HONESTY AND REALITY
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It’s true sarainitaly, on the surface, TRRK may merely seem like a oily political operative with a tired retinue of rhetorical games, but that’s only skin deep….
Although, it’s obvious to even internet novices that TRRK is not a true political junkie or policy wonk with a love of political debate, don’t judge this book by his cover.
Underneath TRRK is a amoral control-freak with a flinty hard ideological zealotry in lieu of a human soul.
Don’t expect sincerity or even a cursory genuineness. That’s not in him.
Michelle: The more the left hates you, the more I like you. They HATE facts.
King, I realize that with your limited mental ability, sarcasm escapes you and you brand everything a ‘lie’. But if you weren’t ‘lying’ about working in the inner city, you really expect us to believe that you have never come across a black person who is racist? Not ever? Not a single one? At the inner city high school I went to (no, King, I don’t need a tissue) most of those black gang bangers were racist. But you spend all that time in the inner city and never encounter one single black racist. Not ever. Not once. Pretty hard to believe, King.
I think this is the most intelligent thing he has ever written:
He’s a lying, pathetic, childish troll, with one purpose – to derail the threads. He can’t debate facts, so he has to attack personally, insult and respond like he did above. Troll.
I know you are RRk, and it will never happen. Never.
The King claimed to be working in the inner city. Yet from the mocking, insulting tone of his posts, he never came across a poor white person or a racist black person. Anyone who has been out in the real world knows that racists come in all colors, and that there are white people who are poor. On the rare occasions when the King concedes that some white people are poor, does he have any sympathy? Nope. He refers to them as trailer trash and offers ‘a tissue’. When asked why he’s unable to show sympathy for white people as well as minorities, he says it’s because whites have never faced the ‘yoke of oppression’. If the King is telling the truth about going to private schools and growing up very well off, then he must have gotten the idea that all whites are well off, and thus deserve his derision. The whole ‘King’ persona is probably a lie, and the King is most likely a black Muslim or black panther. At least that way his hateful posts towards anyone and anything white make more sense.
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