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Howard Dean Fires Back At Fox News’ Response To Racism Accusation

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Former Governor Howard Dean drew a characteristic rebuke from Fox News’ Michael Clemente when he accused the network of “absolutely racist” coverage of the Shirley Sherrod story. Clemente called Dean a “failed candidate” who “blame(s) Fox for almost anything.”

Speaking to Dylan Ratigan fill-in and Young Turks host Cenk Uygur, Dean stood by his comments, and dismissed Clemente’s criticism, while Cenk noted the long roster of “failed candidates” who populate Fox’s air. (h/t Aaron Wysocki)

I also thought it was interesting that a network with Sarah Palin as a contributor would describe an opponent as a “failed candidate,” especially when you consider that Dean was the architect of the 50 state strategy that helped to defeat Palin’s vice-presidential bid. Also, Dean did finish his full term as governor. Actually, he finished five full terms.


I don’t think the fact that Shirley Sherrod resigned before Fox News ever aired the story factors into Dean’s criticism, which was of the way Fox personalities like Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity covered the story. As Steve Krakauer pointed out, CNN reported on the edited tape Monday night, too, but none with the gusto of Fox’s opinion shows.

Dean’s argument doesn’t rest on the Shirley Sherrod story alone, either. Whether or not you agree with Dean that there’s a pattern of racism, it is upon this foundation that Dean’s argument rests, and not simply whether Fox had a hand in Sherrod’s resignation.

 

 

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  • The Real Royal King

    I have always admired Dean’s spine.

    He was also one of the best party chairpersons, of either party, in living memory.

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  • Some_Dude

    When I see such rabidly partisan news articles, my ears are filled with gurgling noises until I click away.

  • writer

    Two prominent African-American Republicans have demanded an apology from the new DNC Chairman Howard Dean for saying at a Democratic Black Caucus meeting last week, “You think the Republicans could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here.”

    And in a joint statement, Maryland Lieutenant Governor Michael Steele and former Oklahoma Congressman J.C. Watts say they are outraged over the insensitive and intolerable remarks. Adding, “This kind of backward thinking remind us of a horrible time in history, when blacks were seen as servants.” But the chair of the caucus says Dean’s remarks were well received, insisting they were, “A statement of fact” and Steele and Watts are blowing things out of proportion.

  • murf

    The first comment in this thread , goes to show you, that the Left , does not care about the facts , they just glorify ignorance.

  • Moderate

    Tommy Christopher is definitely “rabidly partisan”.

  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    Two prominent African-American Republicans have demanded an apology from the new DNC Chairman Howard Dean for saying at a Democratic Black Caucus meeting last week, “You think the Republicans could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here.” And in a joint statement, Maryland Lieutenant Governor Michael Steele and former Oklahoma Congressman J.C. Watts say they are outraged over the insensitive and intolerable remarks. Adding, “This kind of backward thinking remind us of a horrible time in history, when blacks were seen as servants.” But the chair of the caucus says Dean’s remarks were well received, insisting they were, “A statement of fact” and Steele and Watts are blowing things out of proportion.

    You’re going to have to give the age of this.

    “new DNC Chairman”?
    “Maryland Lieutenant Governor Michael Steele”?

    While you’re at it, tell us what critical error you see in the statement?

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  • Bootleghaircut

    “I also thought it was interesting that a network with Sarah Palin as a contributor would describe an opponent as a “failed candidate,” especially when you consider that Dean was the architect of the 50 state strategy that helped to defeat Palin’s vice-presidential bid. Also, Dean did finish his full term as governor. Actually, he finished five full terms”

    I see you’re gong to just keep poking those poor abused failed palinistas in the eye over and over again eh Tommy? I totally approve. If Dipshit McFacebook wants to play hardball mimicing the fox talking points du jour to letter then so be it.

    Her infantile majesty Palin’s proven that she has no use for anybodywho doesnt toe her far right line.

    Which is exactly why she’ll never set foot in the white house except as a guest or tourist or janitor.

  • writer

    King, you go clear back to the Crusades when arguing about Christianity. You constantly refer to slavery when talking about race. And now you’re asking me the age of an article? LOL Dean is a hypocrite and his comment proves it. And so are you, King.

  • http://apostrophejones.com Apostrophe jones

    Dean knows race . He actually met the black guy who lives in Vermont . This guy is just as big a joke as Steele . No , worse .

  • writer

    “Dipshit McFacebook”

    I can see how Bootleg is able to take the high ground when accusing others of bias or having an agenda.

  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    King, you go clear back to the Crusades when arguing about Christianity. You constantly refer to slavery when talking about race. And now you’re asking me the age of an article? LOL Dean is a hypocrite and his comment proves it. And so are you, King.

    Excuse my historical perspective and the breadth of my analyses.

    The date, please.

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  • felixw

    The problem people like Howard Dean (and parrots like the Real Royal King) face is a simple one. The first time you make these over-the-top charges of racism, people pay attention. Even the second or third time, people may give you the benefit of the doubt. But after you have shouted out the same charge a few thousand times and rely on it every day of the week and in every situation, no one with any intelligence takes it seriously any more. It’s like shouting fire in a theater. The first time you do it, every one runs out in the street. But if you keep on doing it, people just block it out because the charge no longer has credibility.

    If these racism charges sound like a bad joke now, imagine how tired and desperate they will sound by the time Obama runs for reelection in 2012. Dean and his cronies need to face the facts: they actually have to defend their policies of bloated government, high taxes and enormous deficits. And if they can’t figure out a way to do that, all the race-card playing in the world won’t save them.

  • The Real Royal King

    Bootleghaircut said:
    “I also thought it was interesting that a network with Sarah Palin as a contributor would describe an opponent as a “failed candidate,” especially when you consider that Dean was the architect of the 50 state strategy that helped to defeat Palin’s vice-presidential bid. Also, Dean did finish his full term as governor. Actually, he finished five full terms”

    Sizzle!

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  • writer

    King, since none of the people mentioned in the article are currently ‘present’, I am unwilling to comment on the date of said article. (Sound familiar, King?)

  • The Real Royal King

    felixw said:
    If these racism charges sound like a bad joke now, imagine how tired and desperate they will sound by the time Obama runs for reelection in 2012.

    Now, you and your ilk will revive them like you did last week. It is inevitable.

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  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    King, since none of the people mentioned in the article are currently ‘present’, I am unwilling to comment on the date of said article. (Sound familiar, King?)

    No, but it certainly sounds vacuous and diversionary.

    Folks, please disregard Righter’s 11:59 post. The shelf life has expired.

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  • writer

    I guess the King has no problem with Dean’s comment about servants being black.

  • writer

    Diversionary, King? Really? I was almost quoting verbatim your comment about how you were unwilling to comment on a certain person’s racism because he wasn’t ‘present’. It was your tactic, King. So now you’re admitting it’s ‘diversionary’? This is a breakthrough!!

  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    I guess the King has no problem with Dean’s comment about servants being black.

    You’re lying again. That is discernibly not what the comment was about. The comment was about the woeful lack of African-Americans in the Republican party. That is demonstrably true. Please stop lying.

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  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    This is a breakthrough!!

    No, that hole has always been in your head.

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  • MichelleF

    This isn’t surprising at all. The left told us that their strategy was to paint any dissent of Obama, or the left as racism. He’s just implementing their strategy.

  • notsofast

    George Wallace and Lester Maddox were proud Democrats.

    Dean :”I don’t take FOX seriously.”

    Well the WH and the NAACP sure did and you are hardly the person to talk about things being taken seriously.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Ignor all comments by the flaming racist RRK.

  • writer

    No comments about your diversionary tactic, King? Anyway, let’s look at the Dem leadership positions. Speaker of the House: Nancy Pelosi. Majority Leader: Harry Reid DNC Chairman: Howard Dean DGA Chairman: Joe Manchin DSCC Chairman: Chuck Schumer DCCC Chairman: Chri Van Mullen DLCC Chairman: Mike Gronstal

    Not a black face in the bunch, King. I think this, along with some of Dean’s racial comments, pertains to the article. If you’re going to point out racial dealings of other people, prepare to have your own brought up.

  • notsofast

    MichelleF said:
    The left told us that their strategy was to paint any dissent of Obama, or the left as racism. He’s just implementing their strategy.

    I’m Not Blue coined this as “Ackerman’s Law.” It has a nice ring to it.

  • murf

    SPENCER ACKERMAN’s rules for radicals # 5 .

    ” Go to EVERY blog on the Internet and write , FOX NEWS CHANNEL is RACIST LIARS !!!!!

  • MichelleF

    I like it, Ackerman’s law it is!

  • NORBIT

    Dean just read the WH talking point & accused FOX of Racism (what else!) – without realizing that FOX never aired the story before she got fired!

    WHAT A BUFFOON!!!!!! – Like his supporters!!

  • AngelPeters

    Michael Clemente really went there with “failed candidate”?
    Come on, Clemente, you walked right into a stupid brick wall with that comment.

    Palin? Huckabee?

    Did you wake up and leave your intelligence behind?

  • Bootleghaircut

    King-

    the upside to Obama’s tenure is that now every right winger on the planet wants to play the race card and be the victim-even Michael Steele who I believe said…

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-national-committee/michael-steele-acknowledges-gop-had-southern-strategy-for-decades/

    “Steele made his remarks at DePaul University on Tuesday night. He acknowledged that “we haven’t done a very good job” of giving African Americans a reason to vote Republican. That’s actually unremarkable. But here’s what he also said:

    “We have lost sight of the historic, integral link between the party and African-Americans,” Steele said. “This party was co-founded by blacks, among them Frederick Douglass. The Republican Party had a hand in forming the NAACP, and yet we have mistreated that relationship. People don’t walk away from parties. Their parties walk away from them.

    “For the last 40-plus years we had a ‘Southern Strategy’ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, ‘Bubba’ went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton.”

    Once again conclusive proof that race is not the issue-its intelligence and Reublicans regardless of color simply can’t make any intelligent conversations about race.

    “Bubba” I think I’m going to start calling all white people that cause clearly Steele’s not a racist right? I mean why would a black guy belong to party that he just said abused minorites through a vile political strategy for nearly half a half a century if he didn’t believe in the healing pwoer of fiscal responsibility right?

    Remember they are not hypocrites-they’re stone faced lying ass weasels.

  • Grammie

    Tommy, I followed your links here:

    “As Steve Krakauer pointed out, CNN reported on the edited tape Monday night, too, but none with the gusto of Fox’s opinion shows.”

    So, exactly where saying what did Steve Krakauer point that out?

    It appears to me that you are putting words in your colleague’s mouth that he himself did not say.

  • murf

    MICHELLE F – Did you know , everytime you mock ACKERMAN , God kills a republican kitten ?

  • AngelPeters

    Why would Michael Clemente, an intelligent man, make such a stupid and lame remark?

    “Failed candidate”? Has he forgotten about Palin, Huckabee, et al.?

  • shootfromthehip

    Dean sounds very reasonable in the clip above and he, as always, tells it like it is.

    Truth hurts Rethugs, doesn’t it!

    Go ahead and “thumbs down” me.

    It doesn’t matter.

    The truth is on Dean’s side.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Baker/1317992137 Joe Baker

    And yet, Dean would never say what Fox did that WAS racist. Daring to criticise the NAACP when an audience of its members voiced enthusiastic approval of Sherrod’s initial vindictiveness toward a white man isn’t BEING racist; it is EXPOSING race hatred.

    Breitbart did a terrible job with this video. His initial release made Sherrod’s background statements the main story. The REAL story wasn’t Sherrod at all, but the audience. And their reaction to Sherrod’s confession was, in a word, disgraceful.

    Or maybe it’s just because Fox has the audacity to not worship at the alter of the left? We recently got a look inside the left-wing media brain in Journolist, where we received confirmation of what we’ve known all along: any time a Conservative begins to get the upper hand, he/she is to be immediately accused, with no need for evidence, of racism.

  • Thomas J – Libertarian

    The sad thing about the Democrats strategy of accusing everyone as being “racist” if they disagree with President Obama is that it has the “Chicken-Little” effect.

    -Don’t want to talk about unemployment? Scream racism.
    -Don’t want to debate the fact that Obama has and will raise taxes on those making less than $250K a year? Scream racism.
    -Don’t want to talk about the fact that the US borrows 41 cents for every dollar it spends? Cry racism.
    -Don’t want to talk about the oil spill? Scream racism.

    -Obama, a black person, was elected by a majority of white people. The racism card is quickly losing its punch.

  • murf

    ACKERMAN’S rule # 6

    ” Distract from the real culprit ”

    Who cares if the NAACP jumped the gun and rebuked Shirley

    Who cares the WH and Ag Sec. forced her resignation

    BLAME FOX NEWS ….. GLENN BECK was gonna AIR the video dammit !!!!!!!!!

  • lonestar77

    Blah, blah, blah. Everyone who works outside of NBCABCCBSCNN is a racist. Everyone who doesn’t support Obama is a racist. Unless 100% of the population supports Obama, then the country is racist. Blah, blah, blah. To lend creedence to such an over the top, nutjob wacky attack for a crazed far-left politician is stupid. But, typical of the hysterical far-left media. Doesn’t Tommy & the rest of the hysterical far-left media realize that they alienate most people with their continued use of the race card? It’s old, tiresome & lazy. Find a new club to beat people with, Governor Dean & Tommy Christopher.

  • Bootleghaircut

    Angel-

    this what they do anytime sombeody critizes fox-they try and subtly re-write the narrative of the person who dares to critique them.

    A good example of this…

    “Real American Stories” features uplifting tales about overcoming adversity and we believe Mr. Smith’s interview fit that criteria. However, as it appears that Mr. Smith does not want to be associated with a program that could serve as an inspiration to others, we are cutting his interview from the special and wish him the best with his fledgling acting career.”

    The key to slam here is LL cool j’ “fledgeling” acting career-I mean the guys only been like in 30 movies(qand he was on a high rated tc show at the time some kind of CSI) of which he could sit on his butt for the rest of his life collecting royalties. They do this all the time and its not very classy but very typical of anybody who dares to call FOx out on the BS-and yes they have BS just like every cable channel.

    Only they have just little think skin over there-like most conservatives it would seem.

  • Bootleghaircut

    sorry “that’s they’re a little thin skinned.”

    Oh and lying ass weasels like most conservatives.

  • The Real Royal King

    Bootleghaircut said:
    King- the upside to Obama’s tenure is that now every right winger on the planet wants to play the race card and be the victim-even Michael Steele who I believe said… http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-national-committee/michael-steele-acknowledges-gop-had-southern-strategy-for-decades/ “Steele made his remarks at DePaul University on Tuesday night. He acknowledged that “we haven’t done a very good job” of giving African Americans a reason to vote Republican. That’s actually unremarkable. But here’s what he also said: “We have lost sight of the historic, integral link between the party and African-Americans,” Steele said. “This party was co-founded by blacks, among them Frederick Douglass. The Republican Party had a hand in forming the NAACP, and yet we have mistreated that relationship. People don’t walk away from parties. Their parties walk away from them. “For the last 40-plus years we had a ‘Southern Strategy’ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, ‘Bubba’ went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton.” Once again conclusive proof that race is not the issue-its intelligence and Reublicans regardless of color simply can’t make any intelligent conversations about race. “Bubba” I think I’m going to start calling all white people that cause clearly Steele’s not a racist right? I mean why would a black guy belong to party that he just said abused minorites through a vile political strategy for nearly half a half a century if he didn’t believe in the healing pwoer of fiscal responsibility right? Remember they are not hypocrites-they’re stone faced lying ass weasels.

    There are so many interesting points there.

    First, Steele can, at times, seem a real dufus. Actually, he is simply ill-suited, on a number of levels, to his job. He has profound skills, talents and abilities which lie with other tasks. I tend to think Steele was selected by the Republicans for the most cycnical of reasons. The Republicans, recognizing their problems with African-American (and Hispanic) voters thought they could quickly dismantle the Southern Strategy. The didn’t want to put in the hard work it would take to do so. And, having elected Steele, they didn’t want to listen to his astute words here.

    I am a Texan. I remember when we finally began integrating our schools. Like high fashion, it came to Texas late. Second rate schools with some questionable Evangelical tie began to pop up all over. Whites began to move further out of the city, and many Whites left the Democratic party. Johnson knew this was going to happen. But, it wasn’t inevitable. The Southern Strategy was the lure, and at the very core of the Strategy was and is a virile racism which was packaged in genteel terms. And, with this, it was assumed the Democratic party was forever dead in Texas and throughout the South. But, interestingly, it now appears that the Southern Strategy is the death rattle for Republicanism. It alienated the Northeast, much of the Midwest and much of the Pacific West. And, the gains amoung Southerners now appear to be illusory. Part of this is the demographic shift, in Texas involving Hispanics (and Hispanics, legal, voting Hispanics, may already outnumber Whites/Gringos) but also urban, educational and income demographic changes. We’ve already seen Dallas and Houston “flip” in the last couple of years, with Austin, San Antonio, Laredo and the Valley remaining steadfastly Democratic.

    And, the nail in the coffin seems to have been Clinton and Dean, both of whom recognized that those of us in the South just might have a slightly different world view than New Yorkers and New Englanders, who, in turn, have a slightly different world view than Californians. That made the return trekk more palatable. For example, we have a real governor’s race this year. I still expect the Republican, Toll Booth Perry, to win, but the Democrat, former Houston mayor Bill White, is drawing big crowds and raising large sums of money in the smaller cities in East and West Texas. Unheard of. The Republican majority in the Legislature has been reduced to a single vote, and most rabidly Republican legislation never gets out of the starting gate now. The key to the Clinton/Dean strategy was the recognition that in many ways, a White Texan may just have more in common with an African-American Texan and a Hispanic Texan than she or he has with a White New Yorker. Space is different, time is different, outlook is different. So, while the Southern Strategy of the Republicans pulled us apart, the Clinton/Dean strategy has, in a demonstrable way, bought us back together. In the end, the remnants of the Republican Southern Strategy remain racist to their core, while the Clinton/Dean strategy, if not entirely post racial is post racist.

    These are, indeed, seismic shifts. We are all going to end up on a very different plane. We may already be there.

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  • Tommy Christopher

    Grammie said:
    Tommy, I followed your links here:

    “As Steve Krakauer pointed out, CNN reported on the edited tape Monday night, too, but none with the gusto of Fox’s opinion shows.”

    So, exactly where saying what did Steve Krakauer point that out?

    It appears to me that you are putting words in your colleague’s mouth that he himself did not say.

    Well, since Steve edited this piece, I think he’s OK with it.

  • The Real Royal King

    Bootleghaircut said:
    King- the upside to Obama’s tenure is that now every right winger on the planet wants to play the race card and be the victim-even Michael Steele who I believe said… http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-national-committee/michael-steele-acknowledges-gop-had-southern-strategy-for-decades/ “Steele made his remarks at DePaul University on Tuesday night. He acknowledged that “we haven’t done a very good job” of giving African Americans a reason to vote Republican. That’s actually unremarkable. But here’s what he also said: “We have lost sight of the historic, integral link between the party and African-Americans,” Steele said. “This party was co-founded by blacks, among them Frederick Douglass. The Republican Party had a hand in forming the NAACP, and yet we have mistreated that relationship. People don’t walk away from parties. Their parties walk away from them. “For the last 40-plus years we had a ‘Southern Strategy’ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, ‘Bubba’ went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton.” Once again conclusive proof that race is not the issue-its intelligence and Reublicans regardless of color simply can’t make any intelligent conversations about race. “Bubba” I think I’m going to start calling all white people that cause clearly Steele’s not a racist right? I mean why would a black guy belong to party that he just said abused minorites through a vile political strategy for nearly half a half a century if he didn’t believe in the healing pwoer of fiscal responsibility right? Remember they are not hypocrites-they’re stone faced lying ass weasels.

    And, thank you for that most interesting and thought out post.

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  • The Real Royal King

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Well, since Steve edited this piece, I think he’s OK with it.

    That’s rich.

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  • Bootleghaircut

    “First, Steele can, at times, seem a real dufus. Actually, he is simply ill-suited, on a number of levels, to his job. He has profound skills, talents and abilities which lie with other tasks. I tend to think Steele was selected by the Republicans for the most cycnical of reasons. The Republicans, recognizing their problems with African-American (and Hispanic) voters thought they could quickly dismantle the Southern Strategy. The didn’t want to put in the hard work it would take to do so. And, having elected Steele, they didn’t want to listen to his astute words here.”

    I think you hit the nail on the head and I could not have said it any better; steele was the cynical polical choice and the short cut particularly when his cheif opponent was a wiz at insider fundraising-Katon Dawson-too bad he had the audacity to belong to an all white country club. When was the last time such a trivial thing was an issue in an party apparatus election? Seems they were definetly looking at the next four soleythrough the prism of race. In playing the race card on themselves they basicvaslly destoyed the effectiveness of the RNC because steele of steele gaffe a minute performance.

    “I am a Texan. I remember when we finally began integrating our schools. Like high fashion, it came to Texas late. Second rate schools with some questionable Evangelical tie began to pop up all over. Whites began to move further out of the city, and many Whites left the Democratic party. Johnson knew this was going to happen. But, it wasn’t inevitable. The Southern Strategy was the lure, and at the very core of the Strategy was and is a virile racism which was packaged in genteel terms. And, with this, it was assumed the Democratic party was forever dead in Texas and throughout the South. But, interestingly, it now appears that the Southern Strategy is the death rattle for Republicanism. It alienated the Northeast, much of the Midwest and much of the Pacific West. And, the gains amoung Southerners now appear to be illusory. Part of this is the demographic shift, in Texas involving Hispanics (and Hispanics, legal, voting Hispanics, may already outnumber Whites/Gringos) but also urban, educational and income demographic changes. We’ve already seen Dallas and Houston “flip” in the last couple of years, with Austin, San Antonio, Laredo and the Valley remaining steadfastly Democratic.”

    which calls into issue of immigration-which we can leave for other threads as surely the iimmiration story is about to takeover the enws cycle.

    “And, the nail in the coffin seems to have been Clinton and Dean, both of whom recognized that those of us in the South just might have a slightly different world view than New Yorkers and New Englanders, who, in turn, have a slightly different world view than Californians. That made the return trekk more palatable. For example, we have a real governor’s race this year. I still expect the Republican, Toll Booth Perry, to win, but the Democrat, former Houston mayor Bill White, is drawing big crowds and raising large sums of money in the smaller cities in East and West Texas. Unheard of. The Republican majority in the Legislature has been reduced to a single vote, and most rabidly Republican legislation never gets out of the starting gate now. The key to the Clinton/Dean strategy was the recognition that in many ways, a White Texan may just have more in common with an African-American Texan and a Hispanic Texan than she or he has with a White New Yorker. Space is different, time is different, outlook is different. So, while the Southern Strategy of the Republicans pulled us apart, the Clinton/Dean strategy has, in a demonstrable way, bought us back together. In the end, the remnants of the Republican Southern Strategy remain racist to their core, while the Clinton/Dean strategy, if not entirely post racial is post racist.”

    I think i can sum up what your are saying by adding that there is more than just physical miles of difference between Perry and say Susan Collins olympisa Snow and Scott Brown and one size fits all strategy based on race is ill advised in this day and age.

  • gary

    Dean got schooled by Wallace and now he has to make the rounds to the self proclaimed liberal elite to make him feel better.I don’t know who looked worse for being unprepared, Daffy Dean or Powers in her interview with Megyn Kelly. When you do interviews with individuals from a different mindset than yours,,the generalities don’t work. You’re going to get pushed. Better be prepared. Keep on portraying people right of center as being racist, anti american, and stupid. It just makes them stronger. Tommy, you let your bias show in every piece you do and I’ve come to the conclusion you’re another one of the morons that needs to go. Nobody cares about the opinion of the writer, just the content of the article.

  • writer

    As someone who attended one of those well integrated inner-city schools, with all the gang problems, etc., I can say from first hand experience that it’s not always the utopia the left portrays it as. But since Royal King admits that he went to a private school and was privileged growing up, of course he would be much more of an authority on a well integrated educational system.

  • M Colins

    Deans one aim in all of this is to continue to repeat the “racist” meme until the November elections with the hopes it will help prevent a massacre from occurring on the Left.

    40 years of liberal compassion beginning in the Great Society has really done wonders for the plight of Black Americans. Darn these racist Republicans for not seeing the obvious solution for blacks which is reparations, more welfare, affirmative action, and pathetically low expectations.

    Democrats insultingly treat blacks as little retarded children.

  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    As someone who attended one of those well integrated inner-city schools, with all the gang problems, etc., I can say from first hand experience that it’s not always the utopia the left portrays it as. But since Royal King admits that he went to a private school and was privileged growing up, of course he would be much more of an authority on a well integrated educational system.

    Would you like a tissue?

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  • juan

    Moderate said:
    Tommy Christopher is definitely “rabidly partisan”.

    Yup! Definitely a “Hit Piece” on Fox News!

    Wonder if Tommy was a member of JourNoList (CabaList)?

  • writer

    See folks, this is what I’m talking about. A guy who admits to a privileged, lily white education mocks someone who was actually there, and knows much more about the hell holes our inner city schools are. Now if I had been black and said that I went to a rough school, the King would be crying so hard he wouldn’t be able to type his snarky posts. What a guy!

  • writer

    So saying inner city schools are rough places gets a thumbs down, huh? I know the left likes to pretend that in every inner city school the races all walk hand in hand and sing kumbahyah, but anyone who’s actually been there knows it’s not quite like that.

  • Grammie

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Well, since Steve edited this piece, I think he’s OK with it.

    So you are saying that since Steve reviewed your work and did not correct that portion he did make the point, he missed it or his editing is so loose that anything goes?

  • ImNotBlue

    Grammie says:
    July 28, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    So you are saying that since Steve reviewed your work and did not correct that portion he did make the point, he missed it or his editing is so loose that anything goes?

    Well clearly! Since Steve didn’t change it after he (allegedly) edited it… that means it’s okay for TC to lie… er… I mean “opine,” about something that wasn’t necessarily true or in the original piece.

  • The Real Royal King

    Grammie said:
    So you are saying that since Steve reviewed your work and did not correct that portion he did make the point, he missed it or his editing is so loose that anything goes?

    He’s saying that Steve had no objection. That’s abundantly clear. You’re just trying to be an agent provocateur. Around here, that’s Michelle-in-Utah’s job.

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    WHERE LYING’S AN ART!

  • The Real Royal King

    Grammie said:
    So you are saying that since Steve reviewed your work and did not correct that portion he did make the point, he missed it or his editing is so loose that anything goes?

    And as proof, I offer:

    ImNotBlue said:
    Grammie says:July 28, 2010 at 2:26 pm So you are saying that since Steve reviewed your work and did not correct that portion he did make the point, he missed it or his editing is so loose that anything goes? Well clearly! Since Steve didn’t change it after he (allegedly) edited it… that means it’s okay for TC to lie… er… I mean “opine,” about something that wasn’t necessarily true or in the original piece.

    KOLDYS’ PHOX PHAN KLUBBERS UNITE!

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    WHERE LYING’S AN ART!

  • writer

    When anything differs with the King’s view of the world, he sticks his fingers in his ears and goes “La la la la.” Helps him cope.

  • SLO

    So Mr. Dean lies again to try to redeem himself for his ignorance of this issue. Just like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS they have to spin the truth to try and get ratings. Unfortunately for them It’s way to easy to get to the truth via the internet if one really wants to know the truth.

  • newzmaker

    Just like MSNBC, Howard’s home state of Vermont, has very few blacks. How do they get away with using that ‘r’ word? According to this Census report, Vermont only had 0.9% blacks in 2008? 0.9% of a black person? What did they do with the rest of the guy?

  • newzmaker
  • writer

    Anyone from Vermont is an expert on race relations, since there are no other races in Vermont. It’s sort of like the Royal King went to private schools, so he is an expert on race relations in inner city schools.

  • Penguin60

    Ah, the transparent administration. The only thing transparent is how the lefty minions will go to the depths of hell to protect one of their own from the racist label. Especially when it true!

    Howard Dean is now on the same footing as olberdork.

  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    Anyone from Vermont is an expert on race relations, since there are no other races in Vermont. It’s sort of like the Royal King went to private schools, so he is an expert on race relations in inner city schools.

    We have a long tradition in my family, Righter, of community service for a couple of years after college. In fact, we have a family trust which pays for this. I worked on the Lower West Side with an organization which aids male and female prostitutes who want to “come in” and turn their lives around. I lived in a residential facility. We did great work. Success by numbers was not high. If we kept 15-20% from returning to the streets within first five years, we thought we had done a great job. We were tough on the residents, with all manner of zero tolerance regulations, and the work was tough on me. Twice a week we did outreach to people still on the streets. That involved my taking the subway to Midtown at 20:00 Hours and returning on the subway at 04:00 Hours. Don’t tell me I don’t appreciate the difficulties of life in the urban core or that I don’t understand some of the dangers of urban life. You haven’t a clue.

    FOX NEWS AND BREITBART
    WHERE LYING’S AN ART!

  • Permatiltx

    murf said:
    MICHELLE F – Did you know , everytime you mock ACKERMAN , God kills a republican kitten ?

    There are no Republican kittens. They’re all meow-ists. Oh, I hate myself for that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alfred-J-Lemire/100000045361210 Alfred J. Lemire

    The NAACP had called on the Tea Party to get rid of racists in their ranks and the Sherrod tape that the opinion people got showed Ms. Sherrod in a display of racism. The full tape did not fully exonerate her. Her limited epiphany was that the white vs. black conflict continued, but was less important than that between the haves and have-nots. It was seeing the white farmer as a have-not that changed her attitude. As with many blacks, she has good reason for her racial attitudes, given her family’s history, but I have met whites who also can point to incidents in their family pasts to justify their racism, too.

    Ms. Sherrod, in the tape, claimed that opposition to what I call DemCare, i.e. ObamaCare, came from the powerful who wanted to hold onto their power and from those opposed to the President because he is black.

    Speaking to Joe Strupp of Media Matters, she said that Fox News “are after a bigger thing” than Shirley Sherrod. “They would love to take us back to where we were many years ago. Back to where black people were looking down, not looking white folks in the face, not being able to compete for a job out there and not be a whole person.”

    ”I don’t know anyone at Fox News for whom that is their agenda,” said James Rosen of the Fox News news staff, on the Bill O’Reilly program, Wednesday, the 21st.

    And as to the “failed candidate” allusion, Mr. Clemente was clumsy. Mr. Dean had failed as a presidential candidate, spectacularly, in Iowa. But Mike Huckabee also failed in that, less spectacularly, and he’s doing fine with his weekend program on Fox News.

    As to Mr. Dean’s “absolutely racist” charge, that is spectacular, too, false and thus vile, given the seriousness of the charge. The racist charge will continue against people, with no basis in reality, though infuriating, because leftists consider it effective: see Journolist for that. Commenters leveled that charge, falsely, against Sarah Palin for her Facebook entry arguing against a mosque close to Ground Zero.

    Mr. Dean’s hate-fueled comments merit no respect and only brief rebuttal.

  • VegasRudy

    The headline should read:

    Howard Dean Fires BLANKS At Fox News’ Response To Racism Accusation

    Howie firing back after being eviscerated by Chris Wallace when confronted with the timeline of events. Deans “failed” candidates can be part of the most successful team in Cable News. Look where the rethreads (Carville, Begala” from a “successful” administration got CNN.

  • Cecelia

    Grammie,

    Where there’s no smoking gun, the pea-shooter of “gusto” is all Tommy has.

  • Permatiltx

    Dan Scerpella said:
    Deans one aim in all of this is to continue to repeat the “racist” meme until the November elections with the hopes it will help prevent a massacre from occurring on the Left.

    40 years of liberal compassion beginning in the Great Society has really done wonders for the plight of Black Americans. Darn these racist Republicans for not seeing the obvious solution for blacks which is reparations, more welfare, affirmative action, and pathetically low expectations.

    Democrats insultingly treat blacks as little retarded children.

    So, I have to ask, where would minorities be without that 40 years of liberal compassion. Were the Democrats treating blacks like retarded children, or treating whites like aggressive school bullies. You can just say, “Okay, everyone, we’re desegregated and everyone has equal rights,” and then expect that the entire thing will be rosy. That’s a bit naive. It has done wonders for the plight of Black Americans, because it would’ve been worst over those 40 years. And pathetically low expectations? Did Barack have to work harder or less hard during these time periods to become president? What about Michael Steele? What about Colin Powell? Are you suggesting that they had it easier? Affirmative action was a necessary evil because you can say, Hey, hire black people and then sit back, because yes, hundreds of years of racism disappeared overnight. Again, it’s naive, and we sit here and live in a time removed from separate water fountains and counters at stores. When the color of your skin kept you out of restaurants. I watch Remember the Titans and I’m even stunned by the racism in this movie. It was overt, out in the open, and disturbing. More disturbing that any of the things you listed, reparations (actually I was against this, but still not as disturbing as seeing the protesters blasted with fire hoses, or the hangings because a black man held hands with a white woman), affirmative action or any of the other things. Do you think Black Americans would have it better without liberal compassion or just compassion, why does it have to be liberal. And by your analogy of the Dems being treated like little retarded children, is that better or worst than being treated like non-human beings?

  • blumuze

    Actual masturbation is so much more satisfying than arguing politics; at least at the end you have a solution.

  • Permatiltx

    And Howard Dean, I’m coming after you next:

    Enough! Look you’ve gotten so involved with the FOX News as racist talking point that you used it when it wasn’t even necessary. Yes, those who feel that I’m a liberal stooge, but I think FOX is within the right on this particular issue. FOX didn’t really do anything racist at all. In fact, other than sporadic racism that seems to spill out here and there, I don’t think we should focus on FOX is racist at all. Now, we look at offensive racist things that are said, and it tends to be mostly consisting of Rush Limbaugh. Rush isn’t a member of the FOX News team. Is FOX bias? Yes. Absolutely. I think it’s funny that there is a move to keep FOX from saying that they have a conservative slant. But the truth of the matter is they do. But, as the pressure for their conservative slant increases, FOX is smart enough to distance themselves. But the truth is FOX makes money being conservative. Pure and simple, and they are going to keep doing it as long as their ratings continue to improve. MSNBC went to the left after Olbermann’s ratings helped increase the overall ratings for MSNBC. Remember, MSNBC was the home of Tucker Carlson. They had more conservative shows, but they weren’t keeping up with FOX. If FOX could make money off being liberal or leftist, then yes, they would. Murdoch and Ailes are smart, marketing savvy folks. They know where the money is. Are they racist? Maybe, but probably no more than most CEO’s and corporate heads. Racism is not FOX’s main narrative. So, stop going after FOX for that. Go after them for holding tight to the Conservative narrative (the going to the safe landing of a plane as the President signed a historic bill that you weren’t behind). FOX dissected a birther. A conservative, even. And that was a smart move as FOX is working to distance itself from the fringe. There has been a slight shift. Murdoch is distancing FOX from its involvement with the Tea Party movement (Smart, since the party could not really become a political party with a network backing it. Raises too many issues of illegality and influence from a media corporation.) And besides News Corporation is also the network behind FOX, which gave us The Simpsons and Arrested Development, so they aren’t all bad.

    So, Dean, I like you. I like those chubby cheeks as they get into a too overenthusiastic yell. But seriously, stop with the talking points. You, and just about everyone else needs to give it a rest.

  • Permatiltx

    blumuze said:
    Actual masturbation is so much more satisfying than arguing politics; at least at the end you have a solution.

    Yeah, but it’s still sticky.

  • Cecelia

    “As to Mr. Dean’s “absolutely racist” charge, that is spectacular, too, false and thus vile, given the seriousness of the charge. The racist charge will continue against people, with no basis in reality, though infuriating, because leftists consider it effective: see Journolist for that. Commenters leveled that charge, falsely, against Sarah Palin for her Facebook entry arguing against a mosque close to Ground Zero.

    Mr. Dean’s hate-fueled comments merit no respect and only brief rebuttal.”

    Hear! Hear!

    We’ve spent the last two years being absolutely inundated with malicious baleful accusations of racism towards a bevy of White House critics, from people who simultaneously label such tactics as inherently Republican in nature..

    Here, Dean engages in more of the same.

    To all sides: ENOUGH

  • MichelleF

    Tommy,
    Bret just rebutted this in his “political grapevine” segment, so you really should do an updated piece. Dean is either stupid or lying. Take your pick!

  • The Real Royal King

    Cecelia said:
    Grammie, Where there’s no smoking gun, the pea-shooter of “gusto” is all Tommy has.

    I suppose Tommy would bother you. He is tolerant of a wide range of opinion, something you don’t find at other sites you once frequented.

    FOX NEWS & BREITBART
    WHERE LYING IS AN ART.

  • The Real Royal King

    MichelleF said:
    Tommy,Bret just rebutted this in his “political grapevine” segment, so you really should do an updated piece. Dean is either stupid or lying. Take your pick!

    Let’s see, Dean is either stupid or lying because one of the biggest rightist hacks at RNC Propaganda Central says so?

    FOX NEWS & BREITBART
    WHERE LYING IS AN ART.

  • MichelleF

    No Royal Race-Baiter, he stated that Fox pushed the story and played the video ALL day. Bret, played everything from the day on fast forward and it wasn’t touched until AFTER BO forced her out. So he either lied or is stupid. I content both.

  • The Real Royal King

    Cecelia said:
    “As to Mr. Dean’s “absolutely racist” charge, that is spectacular, too, false and thus vile, given the seriousness of the charge. The racist charge will continue against people, with no basis in reality, though infuriating, because leftists consider it effective: see Journolist for that. Commenters leveled that charge, falsely, against Sarah Palin for her Facebook entry arguing against a mosque close to Ground Zero. Mr. Dean’s hate-fueled comments merit no respect and only brief rebuttal.” Hear! Hear! We’ve spent the last two years being absolutely inundated with malicious baleful accusations of racism towards a bevy of White House critics, from people who simultaneously label such tactics as inherently Republican in nature.. Here, Dean engages in more of the same. To all sides: ENOUGH

    Your post is not completely senseless. The real problem at FNC is not racism. In fact, if Glen(n) and O’Hannity were to leave, there would be little racism at FNC. The real problem at FNC is its persistent, chronic lies. That is less curable.

    FOX NEWS & BREITBART
    WHERE LYING IS AN ART.

  • Cecelia

    Is that the best you can do, TRRK?

    Tommy can certainly fashion a less clumsy pea-shooter than you can.

  • The Real Royal King

    MichelleF said:
    No Royal Race-Baiter, he stated that Fox pushed the story and played the video ALL day. Bret, played everything from the day on fast forward and it wasn’t touched until AFTER BO forced her out. So he either lied or is stupid. I content both.

    All the Marys in Heaven you are dense! The problem wih FOX is not, nor has it ever been that it got Ms. Sherrod fired. O’Reilly, taped before the dismissal, indicated FOX was on that track, but FOX has a reputation of being extraordinarily sluggish in the face of real breaking news*. Time may or may not have saved it. The problem is that FOX, without a moment of critical analysis, perpetuated and promoted the known lis of the deplorable and despicable Breitbart. Geez, you are dense.

    FOX NEWS & BREITBART
    WHERE LYING IS AN ART.

    —–

    *With the exception of the infamous “WMD’s Found!” breaking non-story.

  • The Real Royal King

    Cecelia said:
    Is that the best you can do, TRRK? Tommy can certainly fashion a less clumsy pea-shooter than you can.

    I think I adequately captured your state of mind, demonstrated the old men rea.I’m less tolerant of bleaters, moaners and whiners than I once was. I may be in abridged mode, I acknowledge.

    By the way, I had the most interesting appetizer on vacation. Grilled haggis, atop a grilled apricot, atop an oat cake, with sweet chili sauce on top. Sounds pedestrian, but i was actually very good, in limited portions, at least. Particulrly good with a nice stout.

    FOX NEWS & BREITBART
    WHERE LYING IS AN ART.

  • Jelperman

    Tommy Christopher, you are a liar. Fox News was pimping this story BEFORE Sherrod was forced to resign:

    http://tinyurl.com/2bp4yy6

    The Agriculture Department announced Monday, shortly after FoxNews.com published its initial report on the video, that Sherrod had resigned.

    It’s pathetic that Mediaite lies to cover for Fox News a week after the network’s website admitted its role in costing Sherrod her job.

  • Jelperman

    Here’s the link:

    http://tinyurl.com/25838v9

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    felixw said:
    The problem people like Howard Dean (and parrots like the Real Royal King) face is a simple one. The first time you make these over-the-top charges of racism, people pay attention. Even the second or third time, people may give you the benefit of the doubt. But after you have shouted out the same charge a few thousand times and rely on it every day of the week and in every situation, no one with any intelligence takes it seriously any more. It’s like shouting fire in a theater. The first time you do it, every one runs out in the street. But if you keep on doing it, people just block it out because the charge no longer has credibility.

    If these racism charges sound like a bad joke now, imagine how tired and desperate they will sound by the time Obama runs for reelection in 2012. Dean and his cronies need to face the facts: they actually have to defend their policies of bloated government, high taxes and enormous deficits. And if they can’t figure out a way to do that, all the race-card playing in the world won’t save them.

    Riiight…cause there was a Budget Surplus on January 19, 2008, the last day of Bush’s Term.
    And you’re right, Felixw. There are plenty of White Conservatives who always block out charges of racism, no matter the evidence.

    –Cobra

  • dlauf87

    I wish MediaIte would show some integrity and report on this story honestly. Breitbart (although you might hate him and his political views) did not EDIT the video. It was an EXERPT that DID include the redeeming moment. Also on the video, an audience cheering at the racist moment BEFORE the redeeming moment.

  • MichelleF

    Dlauf87, the left doesn’t care for the truth. I can picture them right now with their eyes closed and their hands over their ears saying, “I can’t hear you!”

  • Jelperman

    dlauf87 said:
    I wish MediaIte would show some integrity and report on this story honestly. Breitbart (although you might hate him and his political views) did not EDIT the video. It was an EXERPT that DID include the redeeming moment. Also on the video, an audience cheering at the racist moment BEFORE the redeeming moment.

    If Breitbart didn’t edit the tape then why won’t he say who gave it to him?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Permatiltx said:
    And Howard Dean, I’m coming after you next:

    Enough! Look you’ve gotten so involved with the FOX News as racist talking point that you used it when it wasn’t even necessary. Yes, those who feel that I’m a liberal stooge, but I think FOX is within the right on this particular issue. FOX didn’t really do anything racist at all. In fact, other than sporadic racism that seems to spill out here and there, I don’t think we should focus on FOX is racist at all. Now, we look at offensive racist things that are said, and it tends to be mostly consisting of Rush Limbaugh. Rush isn’t a member of the FOX News team. Is FOX bias? Yes. Absolutely. I think it’s funny that there is a move to keep FOX from saying that they have a conservative slant. But the truth of the matter is they do. But, as the pressure for their conservative slant increases, FOX is smart enough to distance themselves. But the truth is FOX makes money being conservative. Pure and simple, and they are going to keep doing it as long as their ratings continue to improve. MSNBC went to the left after Olbermann’s ratings helped increase the overall ratings for MSNBC. Remember, MSNBC was the home of Tucker Carlson. They had more conservative shows, but they weren’t keeping up with FOX. If FOX could make money off being liberal or leftist, then yes, they would. Murdoch and Ailes are smart, marketing savvy folks. They know where the money is. Are they racist? Maybe, but probably no more than most CEO’s and corporate heads. Racism is not FOX’s main narrative. So, stop going after FOX for that. Go after them for holding tight to the Conservative narrative (the going to the safe landing of a plane as the President signed a historic bill that you weren’t behind). FOX dissected a birther. A conservative, even. And that was a smart move as FOX is working to distance itself from the fringe. There has been a slight shift. Murdoch is distancing FOX from its involvement with the Tea Party movement (Smart, since the party could not really become a political party with a network backing it. Raises too many issues of illegality and influence from a media corporation.) And besides News Corporation is also the network behind FOX, which gave us The Simpsons and Arrested Development, so they aren’t all bad.

    So, Dean, I like you. I like those chubby cheeks as they get into a too overenthusiastic yell. But seriously, stop with the talking points. You, and just about everyone else needs to give it a rest.

    You go WAY too far here. Fox News PROMOTED the Tea Party like Fox Sports promotes NASCAR races or the NFL Playoffs.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jfffjkTieo

    And as far as your line about Racism “not being Fox’s main Narrative”…
    That’s akin to saying French Fries aren’t the “main course” at McDonald’s, but is certainly on the menu of items being served.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY04gIruZ4E

    What Channel are YOU watching, Permiltix?

    –Cobra

  • MichelleF

    Cobra, you are a racist moron. It’s getting a little tired.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alfred-J-Lemire/100000045361210 Alfred J. Lemire

    First, one should be careful calling anyone a liar. A lie is a falsehood knowingly made. People say and write things that are false all the time. That does not make them liars.

    Jelperman wrote, “Tommy Christopher, you are a liar. Fox News was pimping this story BEFORE Sherrod was forced to resign:

    “http://tinyurl.com/2bp4yy6

    “The Agriculture Department announced Monday, shortly after FoxNews.com published its initial report on the video, that Sherrod had resigned.

    “It’s pathetic that Mediaite lies to cover for Fox News a week after the network’s website admitted its role in costing Sherrod her job.”

    I followed the link. The article at the Fox News Website claimed that the “video that now has forced the official to resign.” The article was posted on Tuesday, the 20th, a day after the resignation on Monday, the 19th.

    The article claimed that, “The Agriculture Department announced Monday, shortly after FoxNews.com published its initial report on the video, that Sherrod had resigned.”

    The claim is astounding. The Fox News Channel gets millions of viewers. How many get to foxnews.com? It’s not the sort of site that anyone in the White House, which likely had a role in the firing, would look at for negative stuff on people in government. No doubt someone on staff posted the video, obtained from biggovernment.com. I believe, from

    And Mr. Dean hurled his hate-inspired racist claim at the Fox News Channel, not foxnews.com. The racism charge at Fox News Channel reflects both ignorance and hate, as does the claim against Rush Limbaugh on that score.

    Howard Kurtz of the Washington Post, host of CNN’s “Reliable Sources,” reported that after “a news meeting Monday afternoon, an e-mail directive was sent to the news staff in which Fox Senior Vice President Michael Clemente said: ‘Let’s take our time and get the facts straight on this story. Can we get confirmation and comments from Sherrod before going on-air. Let’s make sure we do this right.’ ”

    Ms. Sherrod, one can surmise, refused to deal with anyone from Fox News, including, I’d suspect, producers for the O’Reilly and Hannity programs. Too bad I’m not a newspaper reporter anymore, because I’d try to find out whether the producers tried to contact her.

    Mr. Christopher’s integrity and ability are worthy of respect; I cannot write that about many on the left.. Howard Dean’s political views are his religion, and he holds them as fiercely as any mujahid. To many on the secular left, the word “fanatic” has to be preceded by “religious.” But there are many other fanatics. Many of today’s American leftists, like Howard Dean and the President are political fanatics, unable to separate their feelings about and intolerance of political dissenters from objective reality. For that reason, I never call the President a liar, but he rarely speaks the truth on political matters.

  • http://none pyrope

    The Real Royal King said:
    I have always admired Dean’s spine

    I guess you’ve seen it quite a few times while you were making love with him.

  • http://none pyrope

    Dean is a typical liberal weasel–when no one is there to refute his lies, he stands behind them.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    MichelleF said:
    Cobra, you are a racist moron. It’s getting a little tired.

    Who are you again? Are you statements supposed to have some kind of impact or influence on me?

    You’re hilarious, Michelle.

    –Cobra

  • sarainitaly

    Dean is a liar.

    The following day in the friendly confines of MSNBC’s “The Ed Show,” the former Vermont governor said, “I happen to like Chris Wallace, but he was really not being exactly accurate when he talked about ‘We didn`t say one word about this before the secretary of Agriculture fired her.’ The fact of the matter is they were pushing this story very, very hard all day. It may be true that they didn`t mention her name, but they sure did run the tape without mentioning her name.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPdFRz3M64

    BAIER: Well, Mr. Dean, let’s take a look. Andrew Breitbart posted the Sherrod clip on his website at 8:18 that morning. Here is a look at programming on Fox News Channel that day, Monday, July 19, in fast forward, beginning at 7 AM on “Fox & Friends.” There’s no mention of Shirley Sherrod, no playing of that clip. Not a single mention. Not a single frame of that video hit the air all day. By mid-afternoon, Shirley Sherrod herself said an Agriculture Department official demanded her resignation telling her to pull over to the side of the road and submit it on the order from the White House because Sherrod said the White House feared she would be on Glenn Beck that night. However, at 5 PM, Beck did not run the story or the video. Neither did this show. Nor did the “Fox Report.” It wasn’t until 8:49 PM eastern time when Bill O’Reilly ran that clip for which he later apologized. But, again, that airing of the clip was two hours after the official announcement of Shirley Sherrod’s resignation and at least five hours after Sherrod said she was forced to step down.

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/28/bret-baier-rips-howard-dean-saying-chris-wallace-lied-about-sherrod-coverage#ixzz0v40MDG80

  • sarainitaly

    New meme: Fox News got Sherrod fired because its website published a story about her

    Update: Well, well. Don’t look now but Politico’s corrected its story. It was 5:58 when the FoxNews.com story first appeared, not 5:18.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/28/new-meme-fox-news-got-sherrod-fired-because-its-website-published-a-story-about-her/

  • The Real Royal King

    sarainitaly said:
    New meme: Fox News got Sherrod fired because its website published a story about her Update: Well, well. Don’t look now but Politico’s corrected its story. It was 5:58 when the FoxNews.com story first appeared, not 5:18. http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/28/new-meme-fox-news-got-sherrod-fired-because-its-website-published-a-story-about-her/

    I’ll call the Sanitation Department to pick up this dead horse you keep beating.

    AT FOX, HONESTY
    IS NOT OUR POLICY.

  • The Real Royal King

    MichelleF said:
    Cobra, you are a racist moron. It’s getting a little tired.

    Besides, you’re threatening Michelle in Utah’s job security.

    AT FOX, HONESTY
    IS NOT OUR POLICY.

  • Penguin60

    The Real Royal King said:
    We have a long tradition in my family, Righter, of community service for a couple of years after college. In fact, we have a family trust which pays for this. I worked on the Lower West Side with an organization which aids male and female prostitutes who want to “come in” and turn their lives around. I lived in a residential facility. We did great work. Success by numbers was not high. If we kept 15-20% from returning to the streets within first five years, we thought we had done a great job. We were tough on the residents, with all manner of zero tolerance regulations, and the work was tough on me. Twice a week we did outreach to people still on the streets. That involved my taking the subway to Midtown at 20:00 Hours and returning on the subway at 04:00 Hours. Don’t tell me I don’t appreciate the difficulties of life in the urban core or that I don’t understand some of the dangers of urban life. You haven’t a clue. FOX NEWS AND BREITBARTWHERE LYING’S AN ART!

    Wait, hold on get me a tissue, and get the Queen a Midol.

  • Permatiltx

    Cobra said:
    You go WAY too far here. Fox News PROMOTED the Tea Party like Fox Sports promotes NASCAR races or the NFL Playoffs.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jfffjkTieo

    And as far as your line about Racism “not being Fox’s main Narrative”…
    That’s akin to saying French Fries aren’t the “main course” at McDonald’s, but is certainly on the menu of items being served.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY04gIruZ4E

    What Channel are YOU watching, Permiltix?

    –Cobra

    Yes, I agree that FOX promoted the Tea Party. But they are now distancing themselves from it. Hannity didn’t go to the Tea Party meeting he was scheduled for. Coincidence after the question was raised to Murdoch? I don’t think so. I didn’t say they didn’t promote the Tea Party, but as the Tea Party rises in power in Congress and (though I hope not) the Executive branch, then FOX may face ethics and propaganda violations, which it certainly would like to avoid.

    Now, don’t think I support FOX News. I don’t. You asked me what channel am I watching, but to be honest, I don’t really watch FOX News too much. Most of my opinion is things I’ve gathered over the last few years from sites (right and left) mainly because media fascinates me. Our united front to protect something (be it FOX or MSNBC) who aren’t really in it because they have our interests at heart (they don’t, they have their own interests at heart, be it money or even political capital, but they aren’t doing anything to “save” us. They could give two fucks if they are fair and balanced. Yet, we defend them as if they are our parents, as if they are comforting us within their bosom and making sure that we can go to sleep in a safe world and wake up tomorrow peaceful and happy. In fact, the biggest boon to FOX would be to have Obama stay in the White House.) I’m saying that the narrative is changing for them, I watched the video, and I saw the racism. And it’s there, I said it was there, but it’s not the entire narrative. If you want to go after FOX, start ignoring the racism, start focusing on matters that will hurt their bottom line. In fact, stop commenting on them all together on message boards and websites. Talk to the advertisers. Talk to the ones that line their pockets. It worked for a bit with Glenn Beck when advertisers started to pull from his show. But then again, that only goes so far. The point is that there is money to be made and the networks will go where the money is. MSNBC was less a political, left leaning network until Olbermann helped bring up their ratings, and then they did the left shift. Again, not for political or ethical reasons. It was about the money. As Deep Throat said to Woodward and Bernstein: follow the money.

  • writer

    King, if you’d really experienced ‘urban’ life, as you claim, then you’d know that there actually are black people who are racists. It isn’t just a white monopoly, and you wouldn’t keep posting as if racism in other races doesn’t exist. Furthermore, you’d realize that sometimes poor whites are victimized by these black racists. But what’s your reply to any white person who grew up poor? “Do you need a tissue?” In other words, King, your story about having all this experience in the inner city is a load of crap. Only someone who has grown up with a silver spoon in their mouth and never experienced the real world would hold the views you do.

  • Sean68

    Well, Dean just made a fool of himself on Hardball. I was pleasantly surprised that Matthews didn’t let him off the hook. Dean’s on TV disussing the Shirley Sherrod case and he doesn’t even know the relevant facts (pertinent to her law suit.) P.S. Joan Walsh doesn’t know them either.

  • Sean68

    sarainitaly said:
    New meme: Fox News got Sherrod fired because its website published a story about her Update: Well, well. Don’t look now but Politico’s corrected its story. It was 5:58 when the FoxNews.com story first appeared, not 5:18. http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/28/new-meme-fox-news-got-sherrod-fired-because-its-website-published-a-story-about-her/

    I just noticed this (new strategy vis-a-vis Fox’s wickedness) as I watched Dean and Joan Walsh on Hardball. Very smooth. It won’t wash. But you still have to admire the their chutzpah! Joan was even try to help Dean. Is it possible he’s not really an M.D.? I believe Obama’s a citizen, but Dean? I want to see that degree!

  • D REX

    Fuks news isnt Racist…………they just dislike “off-white” people.

  • Icanadd

    Two prominent African-American Republicans have demanded an apology from the new DNC Chairman Howard Dean for saying at a Democratic Black Caucus meeting last week, “You think the Republicans could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here.”

    Demanding apoligies for speaking truth? A Republican trademark. And this is in fact, a true statement, even if it DID come from Dean. And honest Republicans (if there ARE any left) know it.

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