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Joe Biden: “I Wouldn’t Characterize The Tea Party As Racist”

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Jake Tapper is finishing his run as anchor of This Week with a bang. Tapper landed an exclusive interview with the always fun to watch Vice President Joe Biden this Sunday.

When asked to weigh in on the resolution the NAACP passed earlier this week accusing the Tea Party of being racist, Biden eventually conceded that he would not “characterize the Tea Party as racist” but that “at least some of the elements that were involved with the Tea Party folks expressed racist views” citing the incident during the health care debate where a black congressman was allegedly spit on by Tea Party protesters.

“I wouldn’t characterize the Tea Party as racist. There are individuals who are either members of or on the periphery of some of their things, their — their protests — that have expressed really unfortunate comments. And, again, it was all over TV, all over your network, you know? A black Congressman walking up the stairs of the Capitol…but I don’t believe, the president doesn’t believe that the Tea Party is — is a racist organization. I don’t believe that. Very conservative. Very different views on government and a whole lot of things. But it is not a racist organization.”

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  • http://apostrophejones.com Apostrophe jones

    They are clean and articulate . Storybook , man .

  • valkyrie101

    “I Wouldn’t Characterize The Tea Party As Racist”

    Yep.

  • valkyrie101

    …and that is why racists need to be excluded, when they appear.

  • BlackWidow

    Joe is right on with his point. I don’t believe the entire movement is racist. I just have a problem with them not admitting to have some fringe nuts in their group. If this was turned around I would have the same problem with a Dem group not being honest about people that make up that group. You see no double standard for me MichelleF

  • tatboy

    Wow… in insightful comment from JB? But if he has video/audio of “Ya know the black congressman walking up the stairs” getting called anything Andrew B has a big phat check for him waiting.

  • Latin2

    Will the Democrats denounce the self-avowed racist and anti-Semitic New Black Panther Party?

    Jerry Jackson, one of the defendants in the Philly New Black Panther party case, was a CREDENTIALED DEMOCRATIC ward poll watcher and was on the local Democratic polling committee

  • Latin2

    Interesting story that the MSM has not covered;

    http://www.examiner.com/x-21818-Virginia-Beach-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m7d15-Many-local-Democrats-have-put-New-Black-Panther-leader-on-their-payrolls

    In Virginia, Democrats are hiring New Black Panther members to help them out;

    Many local Democrats have put New Black Panther leader on their payrolls

    In May, it came to light that Norfolk Mayor Paul Fraim paid the former (?) local head of the New Black Panthers, Michael Muhammad (aka Michael Miles) $4,500, for services performed on his 2010 reelection campaign.

    I spoke with Fraim’s campaign director, Sandra Brandt, who informed me that Muhammad was hired to distribute literature.

    Having,myself, worked on several local and statewide campaigns, I found that strange. Ordinarily, distribution of campaign materials (lit drops) are done by volunteers. It simply makes no sense to spend the campaign’s resources on something that can be done for free (often by the candidate’s family, friends, or even by the candidate himself).

    Furthermore, $4,500 is a princely sum indeed, for such a menial task.

    When I pressed Mrs. Brandt on the issue, she finally conceded that Mayor Fraim “needed to reach out to the black community.”

    So, the best representative they could find is a man known for his racist, anti-Semitic tirades, and calls for violence at Norfolk City Council meetings?

    For years, Muhammad, who once called Fraim a “cracker,” has publicly bemoaned an alleged undue Jewish influence on this country, and once even hinted at his support for seeing Norfolk set ablaze.

    At a November 2000 city council meeting, shortly after a black man died in police custody, Muhammad pointed to the sunset above the Norfolk skyline and said: “I see how much it resembles fire…Looks good to me.”

    In the last ten years, Muhammad has been criminally charged more than 30 times. In 2001, he was convicted of violating an order of protection, as he was stalking Republican House of Delegates candidate Winsome Sears.

    In addition to Mayor Fraim’s campaign, Muhammad has worked on campaigns for the following Virginia elected officials:

    -State Sen. Ralph Northam (D-Norfolk)

    -Del. Paula Miller (D-Norfolk)

    -Del. Johnny Joannou (D-Portsmouth)

    -Del. Kenny Alexander (D-Norfolk)

    -City Councilman Paul Riddick (D-Norfolk)

    -City Councilman Randy Wright (D-Norfolk)

    -Commissioner of Revenue Phil Kellam (D-Virginia Beach)

    Unconcerned with Muhammad’s history of racism, Sen. Ralph Northam told the Virginian-Pilot: “He made sure people knew I was a good candidate and was instrumental in getting people to the polls.”
    At least for Democrats, it seems that only election results, not character, matters.

    So why are the Dems hiring NBPP members and having them as official Democratic poll watchers when they are a self avowed racist and anti-Semitic group?

  • valkyrie101

    Latin2 said:
    Will the Democrats denounce the self-avowed racist and anti-Semitic New Black Panther Party? Jerry Jackson, one of the defendants in the Philly New Black Panther party case, was a CREDENTIALED DEMOCRATIC ward poll watcher and was on the local Democratic polling committee

    Pretty much everyone and their brother has called out the NBPs for being racist. Of course nobody would even know who they are if they did not get so many FOX gigs.

  • tatboy

    BlackWidow said:
    Joe is right on with his point. I don’t believe the entire movement is racist. I just have a problem with them not admitting to have some fringe nuts in their group. If this was turned around I would have the same problem with a Dem group not being honest about people that make up that group. You see no double standard for me MichelleF

    I will point it out again. Soooooo… you condemn the NAACP members that are on video saying raciest, ugly things. Google and youtube are good resources. Calling a black man an Uncle Tom is just sick and doesn’t take a lot of intelligence. And to take your point to the extreme Jessie Jackson should be thrown out of the NAACP for good for the old Hymietown comments?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Billy Roper is a write-in candidate for governor of Arkansas, Tea Party member and an unapologetic white nationalist. Mark Williams has made bigoted statements repeatedly, most recently in the post about LIncoln and bringing back slavery and is a Tea Party leader. Dale Robertson, Tea Party founder, denied racism in the Tea Party then was exposed with a sign calling the president a ‘niggar.’ And enjoy these signs. http://mediamatters.org/research/201007150039

    I don’t know that the Tea Party is a racist organization but it’d take a village of idiots where Andrew Not So Breitbart is mayor to believe there is not a strong element of racism. But the pervasive playing of a reverse race card, accusing someone of calling the Tea Party racist even when race isn’t brought up has caused that reverse race card to be overplayed. The Tea Party doth protest too much if you would have us believe there is no racist element in the Tea Party and that element is deeper than the Tea Party wants the nation to recognize.

  • Latin2

    valkyrie101 said:
    Pretty much everyone and their brother has called out the NBPs for being racist. Of course nobody would even know who they are if they did not get so many FOX gigs.

    Well thank goodness someone is exposing them…because if it was the other Media outlets no one would know of New Black Panther party and how they are involved with Liberal and Democratic candidates.

    Since they are, by their admission, racists and anti-Semites.

    So why are the Democrats asking them for help? They are a SELF AVOWED racist group.

    The reason they appeared on Fox was because they interjected themselves in the Duke Lacrosse, when the Liberal media practically had the players sentenced…and there were the Black Panthers threatening to kill the Lacrosse players…and where was the Liberal media after that incident…nowhere after they falsely accused the players of racism.

  • tatboy

    valkyrie101 said:
    Pretty much everyone and their brother has called out the NBPs for being racist. Of course nobody would even know who they are if they did not get so many FOX gigs.

    Yes… and if the MSM stopped covering white supremacist, KKK, white knights, militia stories nobody would even know who they were either? What a specious argument.

  • BlackWidow

    tatboy said:
    I will point it out again. Soooooo… you condemn the NAACP members that are on video saying raciest, ugly things. Google and youtube are good resources. Calling a black man an Uncle Tom is just sick and doesn’t take a lot of intelligence. And to take your point to the extreme Jessie Jackson should be thrown out of the NAACP for good for the old Hymietown comments?

    YES I do. I am not saying that Dems are perfect. It is the Republicans that claim perfection and never call out one of their own.

  • SLO

    If the Libs would actually watch programs other than CNN, MSNBC, HLN, NBC, CBS, or ABC they might have seen the many times the Right has denounced anyone at a Tea Party with racist signs. But then that wouldn’t push their Liberal agenda would it? I do find it ironic the the Left continues to talk about the Right being hateful but then don’t hear the Left spewing their hatred. Just look at any headline for the Liberal media website on any given day. When Breitbart puts up a huge reward for anyone with an actual tape or video of a racist comment or sign at a Tea Party and no one comes through should say a lot about the Left’s agenda.

  • Azarkhan

    “[Tea Party] is not a racist organization.”

    Thanks Joe for stating the obvious.

    Implicit in his remarks is the recognition that the Tea Party movement:
    1) is going to be a force in the November elections;
    2) has the sympathy and support of many Americans;
    3) therefore it is unwise and impractical to give the Tea Party(s) even more motivation by pissing them off.

  • Patrick Henry

    I have to give the VP credit. With all of the media howling about how racist the Tea Party is, he could have easily taken a cheap shot and said they were racist without much fallout. The principles of the Tea Party are simply smaller government, less spending, lower taxes, and following the Constitution. Obviously, the first three go against Obama’s ideas. I guess that could draw in some people that are against Obama only because of race. There are always a few ignorant people in any organization.

  • Latin2

    Bill Adkins said:
    Billy Roper is a write-in candidate for governor of Arkansas, Tea Party member and an unapologetic white nationalist. Mark Williams has made bigoted statements repeatedly, most recently in the post about LIncoln and bringing back slavery and is a Tea Party leader. Dale Robertson, Tea Party founder, denied racism in the Tea Party then was exposed with a sign calling the president a ‘niggar.’ And enjoy these signs. http://mediamatters.org/research/201007150039

    I don’t know that the Tea Party is a racist organization but it’d take a village of idiots where Andrew Not So Breitbart is mayor to believe there is not a strong element of racism. But the pervasive playing of a reverse race card, accusing someone of calling the Tea Party racist even when race isn’t brought up has caused that reverse race card to be overplayed. The Tea Party doth protest too much if you would have us believe there is no racist element in the Tea Party and that element is deeper than the Tea Party wants the nation to recognize.

    One of those men was asked to leave. The one with the “N-word”…and you do know that Islam is NOT A RACE.

    Calling someone a lair or a Nazi is racist?

    If it is then look at this;

    http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612

    and then death threats of then president bush;

    http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

    Now explain why the Democrats hire New Black Panther members to help them get out the vote…and why a New Black Party member was a CREDENTIALED DEMOCRATIC ward poll watcher?

  • tatboy

    BlackWidow said:
    YES I do. I am not saying that Dems are perfect. It is the Republicans that claim perfection and never call out one of their own.

    Cool… than we agree and would probable get along quite well. Now when the MSM starts covering the ugliness of all organizations and asking its member to take equal responsibility for its members we can all hold hands and have a Coke.

  • BlackWidow

    Latin2 said:
    Well thank goodness someone is exposing them…because if it was the other Media outlets no one would know of New Black Panther party and how they are involved with Liberal and Democratic candidates. Since they are, by their admission, racists and anti-Semites. So why are the Democrats asking them for help? They are a SELF AVOWED racist group. The reason they appeared on Fox was because they interjected themselves in the Duke Lacrosse, when the Liberal media practically had the players sentenced…and there were the Black Panthers threatening to kill the Lacrosse players…and where was the Liberal media after that incident…nowhere after they falsely accused the players of racism.

    Latin I have said on here before that the media seems to have a liberal bias. But that is no excuse for Fox making up stories and lying about facts. If anything we need a change in all of this. The station that would be independent in its reporting and actually factual would be a blessing in this country today. I know the corporations own the media. But strangly enough the corporations are usually to the right. So how did we get such a liberal press. Money the root of all evil. Republican owners and liberal reporters must make money or it wouldn’t be the way it is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    tatboy said:
    Yes… and if the MSM stopped covering white supremacist, KKK, white knights, militia stories nobody would even know who they were either? What a specious argument.

    “Media Matters has counted 95 segments on Fox at least partially devoted to the story, much of it driven by “America Live” host Megyn Kelly, who focused on it during 45 segments, including one that discussed whether Fox’s own coverage had been racist. Fox News did not return calls asking for comment on its coverage.”

    Fox Not News Channel is promoting the NBPP just like they did the Tea Party. FNNC is in the business of promoting racist organizations.

  • Latin2

    BlackWidow said:
    Latin I have said on here before that the media seems to have a liberal bias. But that is no excuse for Fox making up stories and lying about facts.

    Which ones?

    You mean that Jerry Jackson WAS a credentialed Democratic ward poll watcher? Why did the Democrats have a RACIST in front of the voting place as a poll watcher?

  • BlackWidow

    tatboy said:
    Cool… than we agree and would probable get along quite well. Now when the MSM starts covering the ugliness of all organizations and asking its member to take equal responsibility for its members we can all hold hands and have a Coke.

    Look I believe in taking responsibility for ones actions. Yes, that gpes for everybody. My problem with Republicans is not so much their platforms but the fact that they seem to always want to escape without taking responsibilty for their actions. If all politicians would own up to their actions both good and bad this country would be much better off for it.

  • Latin2

    Bill Adkins said:
    “Media Matters has counted 95 segments on Fox at least partially devoted to the story, much of it driven by “America Live” host Megyn Kelly, who focused on it during 45 segments, including one that discussed whether Fox’s own coverage had been racist. Fox News did not return calls asking for comment on its coverage.”

    Fox Not News Channel is promoting the NBPP just like they did the Tea Party. FNNC is in the business of promoting racist organizations.

    Actually FNC EXPOSED the racism of the New Black Panther party, like Black Widow acknowledges the New Black Panther party was on Fox before to talk about the Duke Lacrosse case…which the Liberal media refused to expose them when they threatened the Duke lacrosse players. Where was the Liberal media exposing them then? Nowhere, but they were there falsely accusing the Duke Lacrosse players of racism.

    …and you never answered the question.

    Why is a known racist anti-Semitic group, that even admits it, part of the official Democratic polling committee? That IS big news.

  • BlackWidow

    Latin2 said:
    Which ones? You mean that Jerry Jackson WAS a credentialed Democratic ward poll watcher? Why did the Democrats have a RACIST in front of the voting place as a poll watcher?

    You are still beating a dead horse on this story. Get over it.

  • Latin2

    BlackWidow said:
    You are still beating a dead horse on this story. Get over it.

    You mean like the Tea Party is racist that many Liberals having been claiming?

    Meanwhile the NBPP IS racist and admits it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Latin2 said:
    Which ones? You mean that Jerry Jackson WAS a credentialed Democratic ward poll watcher? Why did the Democrats have a RACIST in front of the voting place as a poll watcher?

    Oh, I see =- so the Democrats are responsible for Jerry Jackson being a racist – and we’ve come full circle. I quote: “Billy Roper is a write-in candidate for governor of Arkansas, Tea Party member and an unapologetic white nationalist. Mark Williams has made bigoted statements repeatedly, most recently in the post about LIncoln and bringing back slavery and is a Tea Party leader. Dale Robertson, Tea Party founder, denied racism in the Tea Party then was exposed with a sign calling the president a ‘niggar.’ ” Not an exhaustive list but I don’t have time to list the many and myriad examples for which, by your standard, Latin, the Tea Party is responsible. And, for you, I do denounce the idiot Shabazz as being a racist. Now, how about you? Will you take the time to condemn and denounce just that short list I’ve provided? How about that neo-nazi leading the Minuteman patrol in Arizona? Will you even denounce him? What will it take, Pablo, for you to denounce racism other than that trumped up shit you’re trying to sell here?

  • BlackWidow

    Latin2 said:
    Which ones? You mean that Jerry Jackson WAS a credentialed Democratic ward poll watcher? Why did the Democrats have a RACIST in front of the voting place as a poll watcher?

    If I knew the answer to that I would have a crystal ball that works and be a very RICH person. Let it go!!!

  • BlackWidow

    Latin2 said:
    You mean like the Tea Party is racist that many Liberals having been claiming? Meanwhile the NBPP IS racist and admits it.

    They might very well be racist!!! Now get over it and let’s move on to a new battle.

  • tatboy

    Bill Adkins said:
    “Media Matters has counted 95 segments on Fox at least partially devoted to the story, much of it driven by “America Live” host Megyn Kelly, who focused on it during 45 segments, including one that discussed whether Fox’s own coverage had been racist. Fox News did not return calls asking for comment on its coverage.”

    Fox Not News Channel is promoting the NBPP just like they did the Tea Party. FNNC is in the business of promoting racist organizations.

    Yesssss… annnnnnd. The point being made was that FOX was propping up the NBPP. And mine is that the MSM props up the counter to the NBPP all the time and for years. They are BOTH performing the same “minstrel show” the puppets just look different. And the MSM has been doing it for WAY longer… FOX has only been around since the 90′s.

  • Azarkhan

    “if you would have us believe there is no racist element in the Tea Party”

    Why not? You would have us believe that the Nation of Islam is not racist. The “Million Man March” the NOI sponsored on the National Mall was treated like the Second Coming. Spike Lee even made a movie about it.

    The double standard, the kneejerk reactions, the hypocrisy, and ultimately the servility of Leftists to minorities is pathetic and renders anything you have to say about race null and void.

  • Latin2

    The Tea Party threw out people with racist signs…but the New Black Panther, who work for Democrats, IS racist and anti-Semitic and gladly admit it.

    Many Liberals claim the Tea Party is racist…yet they threw out people with racist signs, BUT then the NBPP is working for Democrats…hmmm

    HYPOCRITES.

  • BlackWidow

    Patrick Henry said:
    I have to give the VP credit. With all of the media howling about how racist the Tea Party is, he could have easily taken a cheap shot and said they were racist without much fallout. The principles of the Tea Party are simply smaller government, less spending, lower taxes, and following the Constitution. Obviously, the first three go against Obama’s ideas. I guess that could draw in some people that are against Obama only because of race. There are always a few ignorant people in any organization.

    You got it. In any group or organization their are always bad apples in the bunch.

  • Latin2

    BlackWidow said:
    They might very well be racist!!! Now get over it and let’s move on to a new battle.

    Why? because you can’t explain why the BNPP, a self described racist group, is working with Democrats?

    I have not seen any evidence that the Tea Party is a racist group or founded because of race…so why are Liberals claiming it is?

    When right in their own ranks is the NBPP and even hiring them.

  • BlackWidow

    Azarkhan said:
    “if you would have us believe there is no racist element in the Tea Party” Why not? You would have us believe that the Nation of Islam is not racist. The “Million Man March” the NOI sponsored on the National Mall was treated like the Second Coming. Spike Lee even made a movie about it. The double standard, the kneejerk reactions, the hypocrisy, and ultimately the servility of Leftists to minorities is pathetic and renders anything you have to say about race null and void.

    Who says there are no racists in the Democrat party? Who? If they are they are lying to you. Yes, we are more accepting of minorities but that doesn’t mean that we don’t have racists in our own party.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Latin2 said:
    The Tea Party threw out people with racist signs…but the New Black Panther, who work for Democrats, IS racist and anti-Semitic and gladly admit it. Many Liberals claim the Tea Party is racist…yet they threw out people with racist signs, BUT then the NBPP is working for Democrats…hmmm HYPOCRITES.

    You cite this instance of one individual who may or may not have been a poll worker for the Democrats as ‘the NBPP is working for Democrats.’ But the entire damned Tea Party is workng for Republicans!!! HYPOCRITE!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    BTW – Howard Kurtz and Bob Schieffer just skewered Megyn Kelley and this entire case.

  • BlackWidow

    Latin2 said:
    Why? because you can’t explain why the BNPP, a self described racist group, is working with Democrats? I have not seen any evidence that the Tea Party is a racist group or founded because of race…so why are Liberals claiming it is? When right in their own ranks is the NBPP and even hiring them.

    See there you go again. Not using your brain except to create an arguement. I have said the Tea Party itself is not racist. Just that they have racists as members and fail to admit that. I can’t help what the lamestream media says. Don’t blame me personally.

  • notsofast

    BlackWidow said:
    I just have a problem with them not admitting to have some fringe nuts in their group.

    Agree.

    I’m waiting for the NAACP to admit as much.

  • SLO

    The Liberals have their own racists they just don’t want to admit it so the MSM ignors the issue. i.e. Sen. Robert Byrd

    “As a young man, Mr. Byrd was an “exalted cyclops” of the Ku Klux Klan. Although he apologized numerous times for what he considered a youthful indiscretion, his early votes in Congress — notably a filibuster AGAINST the 1964 Civil Rights Act — reflected racially separatist views.”

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    BTW – Howard Kurtz and Bob Schieffer just skewered Megyn Kelley and this entire case.

    Howard and Bob are irrelevant.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    And now Roland Martin and Howard Kurtz are destroying Fox News. Waiting for Megan Kelley’s response. It’ll be hilarious!!

  • Latin2

    Bill Adkins said:
    Oh, I see =- so the Democrats are responsible for Jerry Jackson being a racist – and we’ve come full circle. I quote: “Billy Roper is a write-in candidate for governor of Arkansas, Tea Party member and an unapologetic white nationalist. Mark Williams has made bigoted statements repeatedly, most recently in the post about LIncoln and bringing back slavery and is a Tea Party leader. Dale Robertson, Tea Party founder, denied racism in the Tea Party then was exposed with a sign calling the president a ‘niggar.’ ” Not an exhaustive list but I don’t have time to list the many and myriad examples for which, by your standard, Latin, the Tea Party is responsible. And, for you, I do denounce the idiot Shabazz as being a racist. Now, how about you? Will you take the time to condemn and denounce just that short list I’ve provided? How about that neo-nazi leading the Minuteman patrol in Arizona? Will you even denounce him? What will it take, Pablo, for you to denounce racism other than that trumped up shit you’re trying to sell here?

    Dale Robertson was kicked out.

    Mark Williams wrote a stupid parody letter.

    Now explain this;

    http://www.examiner.com/x-21818-Virginia-Beach-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m7d15-Many-local-Democrats-have-put-New-Black-Panther-leader-on-their-payrolls

    Also explain why Barack Obama said this;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qaHZ39R3A4

    Explain why Barack Obama’s church gave a “Life Time Achievement Award” to racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic Louis Farrahkan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-ipVJcq1U

    From Louis Farrahkan’s OWN MOUTH;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkZ2K5yxLFE

    Now denounce Obama and HIS racism and his association.

  • notsofast

    SLO said:
    The Liberals have their own racists they just don’t want to admit it so the MSM ignors the issue. i.e. Sen. Robert Byrd

    “As a young man, Mr. Byrd was an “exalted cyclops” of the Ku Klux Klan. Although he apologized numerous times for what he considered a youthful indiscretion, his early votes in Congress — notably a filibuster AGAINST the 1964 Civil Rights Act — reflected racially separatist views.”

    “A few years ago, he (Obama) would be serving us coffee.” — Bill Clinton

    ” He (Obama) doesn’t sound like a Negro unless he wants to.” Senator Harry Reid

    He (BHO) said I know this is going to be — lead to some, quote, difficulty for the guys who work on those rigs.
    Well, if he thinks that some guys on the rigs are the only people that are going to be affected by a six-month oil moratorium, he’s out of his cotton-picking mind. — Julia Reed, Newsweek senior editor on CNN on Anderson Cooper 360, June 16.

    “He ( Obama) couldn’t sell watermelons to….” Dan Rather
    “See, Barack’s been talking down to black people … I want to cut his nuts off.” Jesse Jackson
    Bill Maher on how he expected BHO to act with BP: “I was expecting a “real black president”– you know, the kind that “lifts up his shirt so they can see the gun in his pants.”
    RATIGAN: And Obama didn’t do it, when it came down to it, when the Wall Street guys got across the table from him and said “Oh you going to change our tax code little boy?” I think not…. If its Teddy Roosevelt in office who is not intimated by these types of people he might say “Listen. I don’t care who you are, I don’t care how rich you are, its not going to happen.” But with this guy (Obama), he just bends over every time.
    MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Dylan, you’re very- Oh, my God!
    SCARBOROUGH: You know, I was so uncomfortable with a couple of the things you said and then the exclamation point at the end.
    RATIGAN: It’s unbelievable to me. I’m not trying to offend.

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    And now Roland Martin

    Roland Martin?

    He is a racist.

  • Latin2

    Bill Adkins said:
    And now Roland Martin and Howard Kurtz are destroying Fox News. Waiting for Megan Kelley’s response. It’ll be hilarious!!

    Have they explained why Jerry Jackson was a credentialed Democratic ward poll watcher and also a member of the NBPP?

  • MichelleF

    BlackWidow said:

    You see no double standard for me MichelleF

    I’m sorry, do I know you spider lady? I don’t think I’ve ever even made a comment to you, but I could be wrong.

    Since you dragged me into the discussion, will you post the evidence that the % of tea-party racists is higher than the % of the overall population? If it’s not, I fail to see what this whole brew haha is about. Oh wait, could it be that the regime’s poll #’s are tanking and they need to change the subject? Hm, something to think about.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Latin2 said:
    Dale Robertson was kicked out. Mark Williams wrote a stupid parody letter. Now explain this; http://www.examiner.com/x-21818-Virginia-Beach-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m7d15-Many-local-Democrats-have-put-New-Black-Panther-leader-on-their-payrolls Also explain why Barack Obama said this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qaHZ39R3A4 Explain why Barack Obama’s church gave a “Life Time Achievement Award” to racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic Louis Farrahkan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-ipVJcq1U From Louis Farrahkan’s OWN MOUTH; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkZ2K5yxLFE Now denounce Obama and HIS racism and his association.

    I denounce Farrakhan and have for years, I denounced Shabazz, I just heard some hack from the right try to sell the crap that Fox Not News is trying to protect black voters from intimidation by the NBPP and found it hilarious. But I’ve not yet seen or heard you denounce the racism of the TEa Party – how about it, Pablo? I think you should start spelling it PaBLOW because you’re nothing but a big wind.

  • Latin2

    Bill Adkins said:
    I denounce Farrakhan and have for years, I denounced Shabazz, I just heard some hack from the right try to sell the crap that Fox Not News is trying to protect black voters from intimidation by the NBPP and found it hilarious. But I’ve not yet seen or heard you denounce the racism of the TEa Party – how about it, Pablo? I think you should start spelling it PaBLOW because you’re nothing but a big wind.

    Why haven’t you denounced Obama?

    Apparently the Obamas have been chummy with Farrahkan

    now WHY is Michelle sitting with Louis Farrahkan’s wife?

    http://www.culturejamforlife.com/nobama2008/images/obama_farrakhan.jpg

    Why did Obama’s church give Farrahkan a life time achievement award?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-ipVJcq1U

    Why is Obama’s “Uncle”, the man who he titled his book “The Audacity of Hope” and helped console him a anti-Semite?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfDeRY7IgcQ

    So why is Obama linked to racists and know they personally?

  • MichelleF

    Wat, is this the same Joe Biden that said:

    “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

    and

    “In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian-Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.”

  • Latin2

    uh…I am not Pablo…I am a Latina, but I am not him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Latin2 said:
    Why haven’t you denounced Obama? Apparently the Obamas have been chummy with Farrahkan now WHY is Michelle sitting with Louis Farrahkan’s wife? http://www.culturejamforlife.com/nobama2008/images/obama_farrakhan.jpg Why did Obama’s church give Farrahkan a life time achievement award? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-ipVJcq1U Why is Obama’s “Uncle”, the man who he titled his book “The Audacity of Hope” and helped console him a anti-Semite? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfDeRY7IgcQ So why is Obama linked to racists and know they personally?

    Still dodging PaBLOW? Can’t do it, can you? Won’t do it, will you? Embrace your inner racist, PaBLOW!!! Here’s another one for you, PaBLOW!! You have a position here? http://www.wikio.com/video/brigette-gabriel-cufi-3711337 You raised the racist flag with the Tea Party and in repeatedly playing the reverse race card. I ignored it for a hell of a long time. But now it’s your battle cry and I’m going to beat you over the head with it, PaBLOW.

  • Latin2

    From Louis Farrahkan’s OWN MOUTH;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkZ2K5yxLFE

    Now denounce Obama and HIS racism and his association.

    Farrahkan is a racist, homophobe and anti-Semite.

    Yet the Obamas seem chummy with the Farrahkans and Obama’s own church gave Obama a life time achievement award.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Latin2 said:
    uh…I am not Pablo…I am a Latina, but I am not him.

    Comes from posting all over this site – but the BLOW part fits you.

  • notsofast

    MichelleF said:
    Wait, is this the same Joe Biden that said:

    It’s the same JB who:

    told CBS he thought an Obama campaign ad mocking John McCain as a computer illiterate was “terrible.” Later, after actually seeing the ad, Biden said it was OK.

    who spoke of President Franklin Roosevelt’s having gone on television after the stock market crash of 1929. But Roosevelt was not president in 1929, and television was not present.

    who also said neither he nor Obama supports clean coal technology in America. But Obama does support clean coal. Obama also said of Biden’s instant criticism of the government’s big loan to insurance to AIG, “I think Joe should have waited …”

    who said Hillary Clinton may have been a better vice presidential pick than he and said that paying more taxes is the patriotic duty of the rich. And, he encouraged wheelchair-bound Missouri State Senator Chuck Graham to stand up at a campaign rally.

  • notsofast

    Still dodging Bill Adkins. Can’t do it, can you? Won’t do it, will you? Embrace your inner racist, Bill Adkins.

  • Latin2

    Bill Adkins said:
    Still dodging PaBLOW? Can’t do it, can you? Won’t do it, will you? Embrace your inner racist, PaBLOW!!! Here’s another one for you, PaBLOW!! You have a position here? http://www.wikio.com/video/brigette-gabriel-cufi-3711337 You raised the racist flag with the Tea Party and in repeatedly playing the reverse race card. I ignored it for a hell of a long time. But now it’s your battle cry and I’m going to beat you over the head with it, PaBLOW.

    lol…Bridgette has spoken to many groups…ALSO YOU ARE AWARE ISLAM IS NOT A RACE…you see Jewish people came from 12 tribes of Israel, so Obama’s pastor and Farrahkan are attacking Jews who are bascially Semites, like Bridgette who is an ARAB.

    Muslims are not a race. They are a religion that is covered by many people, not just one.

    BUT if you want to talk about a Muslim who IS racist…here Percy Sutton a powerful Civil Rights leader talks about how he 1st found out about Barack Obama…it seems he was introduced by ONE Dr. Khalid Al-Monsour…WHO IS A RACIST AND AND ANTI-JEWISH;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug

    Khalid Al-Monsour;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIrWrxuR_GM&feature=related

    Now explain this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    notsofast said:
    Still dodging Bill Adkins. Can’t do it, can you? Won’t do it, will you? Embrace your inner racist, Bill Adkins.

    Oh, c’mon, nutsofast – I’ve denounced Farrakhan, Shabazz, racism in general – but you embrace it. Do I find Obama to be a racist? Not at all and only someone as big a dumbfuck as you or Glen Beck would try to sell that crap. But since you’ve chimed in, how about you, nutsofast? Ready to denounce racism? Do I hear a big “i hate racists and racism in the Tea Party’ from you? So far all I’m hearing is crickets.

  • MichelleF

    Hm, BO’s DISapproval at 48%. Me thinks that’s why we are talking about the tea-party’s.

  • Azarkhan

    “But I’ve not yet seen or heard you denounce the racism of the TEa Party – how about it, Pablo?”
    Bill Adkins

    Let me get this straight–

    Leftists in the media and the Democratic Party who fear the Tea Party movement, have spent the past year trying to destroy or cripple it by smearing it with the charge of racism, and you want us to accept that smear as if it were truth and then apologize for it?

    I got a better idea. Why don’t you denounce the liars in the media and the Democratic Party who have tried to thwart a legitimate, democratic, populist movement that believes in the American Constitution, individual freedom, and fiscal responsibility?

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    Ready to denounce racism?

    Yes, I denounce your racism and ever form that you inject into every conversation.

    Have you denounced the NAACP for its racism?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Latin2 said:
    lol…Bridgette has spoken to many groups…ALSO YOU ARE AWARE ISLAM IS NOT A RACE…you see Jewish people came from 12 tribes of Israel, so Obama’s pastor and Farrahkan are attacking Jews who are bascially Semites, like Bridgette who is an ARAB. Muslims are not a race. They are a religion that is covered by many people, not just one. BUT if you want to talk about a Muslim who IS racist…here Percy Sutton a powerful Civil Rights leader talks about how he 1st found out about Barack Obama…it seems he was introduced by ONE Dr. Khalid Al-Monsour…WHO IS A RACIST AND AND ANTI-JEWISH; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug Khalid Al-Monsour; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIrWrxuR_GM&feature=related Now explain this?

    Oh, so now only race is the subject of bigotry. Tell it to the Catholics, the Mormons, the Jews and now the Muslim. Sheesh, BLOW!!

  • MichelleF

    What was the Obamateurism of the Week (7/18)?
    Israelis don’t trust him because “my middle name is Hussein, and that creates suspicion”

    Goes to Maine for vacation after First Lady urges people to visit the Gulf

    Claims to have hiked HIV program funding “each year” of his presidency

    Al-Qaeda is raaaaaacist

    Obama expects to be held accountable on jobs, but it’s Bush’s fault.

    Vote here: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/18/poll-what-was-the-obamateurism-of-the-week-55/

  • Latin2

    Bill Adkins said:
    Still dodging PaBLOW? Can’t do it, can you? Won’t do it, will you? Embrace your inner racist, PaBLOW!!! You raised the racist flag with the Tea Party and in repeatedly playing the reverse race card. I ignored it for a hell of a long time. But now it’s your battle cry and I’m going to beat you over the head with it, PaBLOW.

    uh…lol…how can I use “reverse racism”…I am a person of color. You sure are an idiot. I already told you I am not Pablo, but I am a Latina.

    I am not even in the Tea Party…lol Why are Liberals SO RACIST and ignorant?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    notsofast said:
    Yes, I denounce your racism and ever form that you inject into every conversation. Have you denounced the NAACP for its racism?

    I don’t denounce the NAACP for racism because I don’t find the NAACP to be racist. I do, however, find you offensive because ignorance offends me.

  • Azarkhan

    ” I do, however, find you offensive because ignorance offends me.”

    How do you live with yourself?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Latin2 said:
    uh…lol…how can I use “reverse racism”…I am a person of color. You sure are an idiot. I already told you I am not Pablo, but I am a Latina. I am not even in the Tea Party…lol Why are Liberals SO RACIST and ignorant?

    You’re defending the Tea Party’s racism, BLOW. Because you’re a person of color doesn’ t make you right. And note the amendment, BLOW. Take it with your PABlum.

  • MichelleF

    Wait, now it’s ALL white people are racists:

    WaPo Writer Milloy: It’s Not Just Tea Partiers – White People Are Angry, Vindictive

    Just in case you missed all of the leftist racist attacks on conservatives this week.
    Courtland Milloy at The Washington Post explained today that white people are angry, vindictive and essentially racist.

    White: A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East or North Africa.

    – Racial definition from the U.S. Census Bureau

    With all the talk lately about “white vote,” I thought it would be helpful to know what a white person is. As the census definition makes clear, who knows? It’s a biological fiction, a figment of the pigment beneath which all human beings are the same.

    And yet, with midterm elections just a few months away, the so-called white vote looms large, an angry and vindictive political force. A Washington Post/ABC News poll released Tuesday showed that President Obama’s approval ratings have reached “a new low among whites, at 40 percent, with his positive marks dipping under 50 percent for the first time among white college-educated women.”

    Does race have anything to do with it? You betcha.

    …To hear whites tell it, what really bothers them is a growing federal government that they fear will intervene in their lives — unless there’s an oil spill along the Gulf Coast, of course, in which case their complaint is too little intervention. Budget deficits are a worry, too, unless it’s George Bush running up the red ink.

    …Whites, for instance, are overwhelmingly in favor of Arizona’s immigration law, according to most polls. And virtually none of the surveys has shown any concern for the rights of nonwhite Hispanics who would be subject to racial profiling and illegal search and seizures. These are the same people who like to wave copies of the U.S. Constitution and claim Obama is curtailing their freedoms.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/wapo-writer-milloy-its-not-just-tea-partiers-white-people-are-angry-vindictive-racists/

    You here that white America, you are ALL racists!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Azarkhan said:
    ” I do, however, find you offensive because ignorance offends me.” How do you live with yourself?

    It’s easy, Azarkhan – there’s nothing here to offend. Just glad I don’t reside with you.

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    don’t denounce the NAACP for racism because I don’t find the NAACP to be racist

    And I don’t find the TP to be racist and I find your comments not only racist but shows the blabbering of a fool.

  • Latin2

    Bill Adkins said:
    Oh, so now only race is the subject of bigotry. Tell it to the Catholics, the Mormons, the Jews and now the Muslim. Sheesh, BLOW!!

    uh…she is an ARAB. Jews are part of the Semitic people and from 12 tribes of Israel…meaning they are related to Arabs…MUSLIMS ARE NOT A RACE.

    So no can complain about Scientology or any other belief? Then atheists cannot question Christians.

    Muslims are not a race…she is an Arab…and Jewish people are Semites like Arabs…and Obama’s friends and pastor ARE RACISTS toward Jewish people and whites…plus gays.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Now, just because I’m not going to be here for a little while don’t think I left angry. I’ll check back later.

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    Now, just because I’m not going to be here for a little while don’t think I left angry. I’ll check back later.

    Thanks for the warning, dullard.

  • MichelleF

    I really hope bill left to take his anti-psychotic meds.

  • Latin2

    Bill Adkins said:
    You’re defending the Tea Party’s racism, BLOW. Because you’re a person of color doesn’ t make you right. And note the amendment, BLOW. Take it with your PABlum.

    First PROVE that all the Tea Party is racist and is based on race.

    I can prove that the New Black Panther party is based on race and racism. I can prove that Obama’s church preached racism and anti-Jewish sermons. I can prove that Obama’s friend Louis Farrahkan is a racist and anti-jewish and a homophobe…BUT YOU CAN’T PROVE that the Tea Party is racist organization.

    The Nation of Islam and the NBPP is FORMED on the tenets of racism and anti-Semitism, but the Tea Party is not.

  • MichelleF

    First PROVE that all the Tea Party is racist and is based on race.

    They can’t Latin2 and that’s the point. It’s all to divert attention from the fact that BO’s numbers are tanking. Saul Alinksy taught them well!

  • Latin2

    Plus Bill you were the one who brought up “reverse racism”…not me. How can a person of color use “reverse racism”?

  • notsofast

    Hey, Bill, did ya see this:

    “Why the silence from The Post on Black Panther Party story?

    By Andrew Alexander
    Ombudsman
    Sunday, July 18, 2010

    Thursday’s Post reported about a growing controversy over the Justice Department’s decision to scale down a voter-intimidation case against members of the New Black Panther Party. The story succinctly summarized the issues but left many readers with a question: What took you so long?

    For months, readers have contacted the ombudsman wondering why The Post hasn’t been covering the case. The calls increased recently after competitors such as the New York Times and the Associated Press wrote stories. Fox News and right-wing bloggers have been pumping the story. Liberal bloggers have countered, accusing them of trying to manufacture a scandal.

    But The Post has been virtually silent.

    The Post didn’t cover it. Indeed, until Thursday’s story, The Post had written no news stories about the controversy this year. In 2009, there were passing references to it in only three stories.

    That’s prompted many readers to accuse The Post of a double standard. Royal S. Dellinger of Olney said that if the controversy had involved Bush administration Attorney General John D. Ashcroft, “Lord, there’d have been editorials and stories, and it would go on for months.”

    The Post should never base coverage decisions on ideology, nor should it feel obligated to order stories simply because of blogosphere chatter from the right or the left.

    But in this case, coverage is justified because it’s a controversy that screams for clarity that The Post should provide. If Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and his department are not colorblind in enforcing civil rights laws, they should be nailed. If the Commission on Civil Rights’ investigation is purely partisan, that should be revealed. If Adams is pursuing a right-wing agenda, he should be exposed.

    National Editor Kevin Merida, who termed the controversy “significant,” said he wished The Post had written about it sooner. The delay was a result of limited staffing and a heavy volume of other news on the Justice Department beat, he said.

    Better late than never. There’s plenty left to explore.”

  • SLO

    MichelleF said:

    You here that white America, you are ALL racists!!

    Oh this is the best one yet. If the majority of voters are Democrats that means that ALL white Democrats are racist. That proves our point pretty good doesn’t it!

  • Latin2

    MichelleF said:
    First PROVE that all the Tea Party is racist and is based on race.

    They can’t Latin2 and that’s the point. It’s all to divert attention from the fact that BO’s numbers are tanking. Saul Alinksy taught them well!

    lol…but I can prove that Obama’s church was racist and anti-Israel.

    I can prove that Obama’s benafactor was a racist and anti-jewish. (Dr. Khalid Al-Mansour)

    I can prove that Jerry Jackson, one of the defendants in the Philly NBPP was a credentialed DEMOCRATIC ward poll watcher.

    I can prove that Michelle was chummy with Louis Farrahkan’s wife.

    I can prove that Obama SAID racist things from his own mouth.

    I can prove that Obama’s “uncle” pastor Wright is a racist/anti-Semite.

    I can prove that the NBPP and the Nation of Islam ARE self-avowed racist and anti-semitic groups…

    …YET THEY CANNOT PROVE THAT THE TEA PARTY IS A RACIST AND ANTI-SEMITIC ORGANIZATION.

    So every time they try that meme that the Tea Party racist…I will show them the evidence and remind them what the MSM didn’t want to tell the American people.

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    Hm, BO’s DISapproval at 48%. Me thinks that’s why we are talking about the tea-party’s.

    Thanks for the extra points. ABC just said it was 43%.

  • MichelleF

    Since it’s just us sane conservatives talking amongst ourselves now that Bill ran off with his tail between his legs, I must say that I’m a little surprised that dem’s think this tactic of calling all American’s that disagree with BO racists. I mean they’ve lost a large portion fo the I’s that voted for BO and they think THIS is how to get them back? Personally, I think they know they’ve pushed it a little too far.

  • Pablo

    Bill Adkins said:
    I don’t denounce the NAACP for racism because I don’t find the NAACP to be racist. I do, however, find you offensive because ignorance offends me.

    I find it odd that the NAACP resolution passed unanimously. 2000 delegates and not a one of them thought that maybe calling millions of white folks racist. And some black ones too, but nobody seems to want to talk about them, aside from calling them Uncle Tom or some such.

    That broadbrushing, and in such public fashion, seems sort of, well, racist.

  • Latin2

    MichelleF said:
    Since it’s just us sane conservatives talking amongst ourselves now that Bill ran off with his tail between his legs, I must say that I’m a little surprised that dem’s think this tactic of calling all American’s that disagree with BO racists. I mean they’ve lost a large portion fo the I’s that voted for BO and they think THIS is how to get them back? Personally, I think they know they’ve pushed it a little too far.

    That is why I like to remind them about Barack’s past…lol

  • BlackWidow

    notsofast said:
    Agree. I’m waiting for the NAACP to admit as much.

    Hi Phil Spector (that is what you look like in the avatar). I am waiting to hear that from them also.

  • MichelleF

    Here’s an average, spider lady:

    President Obama Job Approval

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

    This one could hurt a bit:

    Direction of Country

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html

    Now spin away, because that is what spider’s do, right?

  • Pablo

    *maybe calling millions of white folks racist might not be a great idea.*

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    Here’s an average, spider lady: President Obama Job Approval http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html This one could hurt a bit: Direction of Country http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html Now spin away, because that is what spider’s do, right?

    NOT this one. Unlike you I can see gray areas.

  • Azarkhan

    An excellent analysis of Sarah Palin’s recent campaign video by Mark Halperin, who severely criticized her in the book Game Change.

    As one Republican analyst said:
    What she knows, you can’t teach. And what she doesn’t know, she can learn.

    http://www.palintv.com/2010/07/15/mark-halperin-on-the-genius-of-governor-palin/

  • BlackWidow

    Pablo said:
    *maybe calling millions of white folks racist might not be a great idea.*

    Pablo you are doing exactly what Fox News does. First, I am not sure “millions” of people belong to the Tea Party. Second, not ALL of the people are racists. The NAACP did NOT say ALL the tea party are racists. They want them to call out the racists.

  • notsofast

    MichelleF said:
    I must say that I’m a little surprised that dem’s think this tactic of calling all American’s that disagree with BO racists.

    Barry telegraphed this during his campaign when he decided to play the race card.

    “So nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face, so what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” he told voters in Springfield. “You know, he’s not patriotic enough. He’s got a funny name. You know, he doesn’t look like all those other Presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He’s risky. That’s essentially the argument they’re making.”

  • MichelleF

    Joe Biden fined $219K for 2008 presidential campaign violations

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39875.html

  • MichelleF

    Pablo you are doing exactly what Fox News does. First, I am not sure “millions” of people belong to the Tea Party. Second, not ALL of the people are racists. The NAACP did NOT say ALL the tea party are racists. They want them to call out the racists.

    Spiderlady, since the day BO took over, ANY criticism of him has been deemed racist. This TP thing is just the most current example. Nice try though. Spin away!

  • BlackWidow

    Azarkhan said:
    An excellent analysis of Sarah Palin’s recent campaign video by Mark Halperin, who severely criticized her in the book Game Change. As one Republican analyst said:What she knows, you can’t teach. And what she doesn’t know, she can learn. http://www.palintv.com/2010/07/15/mark-halperin-on-the-genius-of-governor-palin/

    That is a true statement. However, it has been 18 months since the election and she has still not learned how to give a decent interview with anyone but Fox. Liberal media or not if she had any sense about it she would have stayed away from the world and went back to school to learn enough to be a “real” force for the next election.

  • Latin2

    Hey Pablo Bill thinks I am you…LOL

    :P

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    Pablo you are doing exactly what Fox News does. First, I am not sure “millions” of people belong to the Tea Party. Second, not ALL of the people are racists. The NAACP did NOT say ALL the tea party are racists. They want them to call out the racists. Spiderlady, since the day BO took over, ANY criticism of him has been deemed racist. This TP thing is just the most current example. Nice try though. Spin away!

    Michelle, please remember that this is a conversation between you and me. What our beliefs are. I am not responsible for what the rest of the country is or does.

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    Pablo you are doing exactly what Fox News does. First, I am not sure “millions” of people belong to the Tea Party. Second, not ALL of the people are racists. The NAACP did NOT say ALL the tea party are racists. They want them to call out the racists. Spiderlady, since the day BO took over, ANY criticism of him has been deemed racist. This TP thing is just the most current example. Nice try though. Spin away!

    Michelle, I haven’t used a nick name for you so please don’t do that for me. Please don’t forget that I am a widow.

  • MichelleF

    Great spin, spiderlady, but just as you try to bind all TP’s with our side, you are bound to the loony left.

  • notsofast

    BlackWidow said:
    The NAACP did NOT say ALL the tea party are racists.

    Yes, but that was ONLY after they altered their original resolution which called the TP a racist group. To say of a large group that they may have some racists in it is like saying to a group that they may have some Democrats, Republicans, Independents, cancer survivors, actors, engineers, teachers, etc. in it.

    It is meaningless.

  • roxsteady

    The NAACP didn’t say the Tea Party was racists either. They stimply stated the fact that they tolerate racist elements in their ranks but, you all knew that too.

    Here’s one of my favorites. Someone needs spellcheck.
    http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader

    Here
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/marisseay/3912656655/in/photostream/

    And here where there is nothing satirical about this one. It’s straight up offensive. Sorry CNN!
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/17/obama.witchdoctor.teaparty/index.html

    There are lots more but, I’m assuming that you get the picture.

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    First PROVE that all the Tea Party is racist and is based on race. They can’t Latin2 and that’s the point. It’s all to divert attention from the fact that BO’s numbers are tanking. Saul Alinksy taught them well!

    Michelle, please give me sites that say the entire Tea Party is racist? You are good with google. Let’s see what you can find to back up your statement.

  • notsofast
  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    Great spin, spiderlady, but just as you try to bind all TP’s with our side, you are bound to the loony left.

    What spin?

  • MichelleF

    spiderlady, let me break it down in terms you will understand. What I said was, unless the % of TP’s is larger than the population at large, what is the story? If say 3% of tp’s are racist and 3% of the population is, I fail to see the whole point of this faux controversy. Please let me know if you don’t understand and I can break it down further.

  • BlackWidow

    notsofast said:
    Barry telegraphed this during his campaign when he decided to play the race card. “So nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face, so what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” he told voters in Springfield. “You know, he’s not patriotic enough. He’s got a funny name. You know, he doesn’t look like all those other Presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He’s risky. That’s essentially the argument they’re making.”

    Where is the world do you get that from the statement you posted. Obama was right on with this comment. That is what even Hillary did during the campaign. A true statement and you can twist it like this?

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    spiderlady, let me break it down in terms you will understand. What I said was, unless the % of TP’s is larger than the population at large, what is the story? If say 3% of tp’s are racist and 3% of the population is, I fail to see the whole point of this faux controversy. Please let me know if you don’t understand and I can break it down further.

    Michelle do you have respect for people if they are different than you in anyway? I suppose I don’t deserve “any” respect just because I have different beliefs than you do. How can that be.

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    spiderlady, let me break it down in terms you will understand. What I said was, unless the % of TP’s is larger than the population at large, what is the story? If say 3% of tp’s are racist and 3% of the population is, I fail to see the whole point of this faux controversy. Please let me know if you don’t understand and I can break it down further.

    Oh I am a little slow. Maybe it is because I am black and a widow that you have a problem with. How can that be?

  • Azarkhan

    “…if [Sarah Palin]had any sense about it she would have stayed away from the world and went back to school to learn enough to be a “real” force for the next election.” BlackWindow

    Thanks for the stunningly arrogant comment, but then Leftists always know what is best for everyone.

    BTW, I think she’s got the “real force” thing covered.

    According to July 15 PPP poll:
    “With his approval numbers hitting new lows it’s no surprise that Barack Obama’s numbers in our monthly look ahead to the 2012 Presidential race are their worst ever this month… and is even tied with Sarah Palin at 46%….”

  • writer

    Why is it only the tea party that’s expected to call out racism and do something about it? When “Uncle Tom” was used at the NAACP meeting, was the NAACP expected to call out the racists in their numbers? Were they ‘tolerating’ racism? How about Biden’s ‘clean and articulate’ remark? No racist tinge to that? When Bill Ayers supports Obama, are the Democrats called upon to call out the terrorists in their party? Why is it only the tea party that gets singled out?

  • felixw

    I wonder if a mainstream media interviewer will ever ask a Democrat politician about the Tea Party’s real agenda — reducing the size and scope and intrusiveness of government? It looks like the Left is afraid of that issue, and does everything possible to avoid mentioning it. But come November they may wish they hadn’t been in such denial.

  • notsofast

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/us/politics/01campaign.html

    BlackWidow said:
    Where is the world do you get that from the statement you posted. Obama was right on with this comment. That is what even Hillary did during the campaign. A true statement and you can twist it like this?

    I hardly twisted it. The NYT’s reported on Barry’s attempt.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/us/politics/01campaign.html

  • MichelleF

    Hey spiderlady, I had NO idea you were black, so stop the race-baiting. You’re making a fool out of yourself!

  • roxsteady

    Skimming through the comments here, as usual I see that many of you still have your heads up your asses. Now, go ahead and try to dispute these photos. Those of you talking about Rev Wright, Sarah Palin, Obama’s poll numbers and anything else you can find to change the subject just shows your inability to deal with reality. It’s predictable and pathetic and so are you. The NAACP had the balls to do what Republican won’t and you can’t which is to point out, as they said, that there are racists in the Tea Party. It’s not a myth, it’s not made up, it’s a fact. Your inability to deal with it is a symptom of the shame you must be feeling. Perhaps many of you wouldn’t carry those signs or say some of the disgusting things that some of those folks do but, your refusal to speak out doesn’t reflect well on you either. It would appear that intellectual courage is in short supply on this site from many of you. And by many, I mean not all of you.

  • notsofast

    MichelleF said:
    Hey spiderlady, I had NO idea you were black, so stop the race-baiting. You’re making a fool out of yourself!

    Oh, so she had to inject race into her very name.

    Not a surprise at all.

  • notsofast

    roxsteady said:
    And by many, I mean not all of you

    LOL

  • MichelleF

    Those of you talking about Rev Wright, Sarah Palin, Obama’s poll numbers and anything else you can find to change the subject just shows your inability to deal with reality

    Uh Rox, this whole faux controversy IS the left trying to change the subject from BO’s tanking poll numbers. Thanks for spreading your rays of sunshine though, you’ll be on that list before you know it!

    The Liberal Heretic’s: The Top 20 Most Offensive Liberal Women

    http://www.theliberalheretic.com/blog/node/1119

  • MichelleF

    notsofast says:
    July 18, 2010 at 12:30 pm notsofast(Quote)
    0 0
    MichelleF said:
    Hey spiderlady, I had NO idea you were black, so stop the race-baiting. You’re making a fool out of yourself!

    Oh, so she had to inject race into her very name.

    Not a surprise at all.

    Just more proof that the left sees race in everything and our side doesn’t. My mind just doesn’t go there.

  • notsofast

    MichelleF said:
    notsofast says:
    July 18, 2010 at 12:30 pm notsofast(Quote)
    0 0
    MichelleF said:
    Hey spiderlady, I had NO idea you were black, so stop the race-baiting. You’re making a fool out of yourself!

    Oh, so she had to inject race into her very name.

    Not a surprise at all.

    Just more proof that the left sees race in everything and our side doesn’t. My mind just doesn’t go there.

    I guess I will change my name to thewhitenotsofast.

    LOL

  • MichelleF

    HAHA! good one. And I can be whiteymichelleF.

  • Azarkhan

    “It’s not a myth, it’s not made up, it’s a fact” Roxy

    Already responded to that lie:

    Let me get this straight–

    Leftists in the media and the Democratic Party who fear the Tea Party movement, have spent the past year trying to destroy or cripple it by smearing it with the charge of racism, and you want us to accept that smear as if it were truth and then apologize for it?

    I got a better idea. Why don’t you denounce the liars in the media and the Democratic Party who have tried to thwart a legitimate, democratic, populist movement that believes in the American Constitution, individual freedom, and fiscal responsibility?

  • writer

    rox, did the NAACP call out that guy who used “Uncle Tom”? And when Bill Ayers said he supported Obama, did you call upon the Democrats to purge the terrorists from their party? Why is it only the tea party that’s called upon to rid themselves of their bad elements?

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    notsofast says:July 18, 2010 at 12:30 pm notsofast(Quote)0 0MichelleF said:Hey spiderlady, I had NO idea you were black, so stop the race-baiting. You’re making a fool out of yourself! Oh, so she had to inject race into her very name. Not a surprise at all. Just more proof that the left sees race in everything and our side doesn’t. My mind just doesn’t go there.

    Oh my, you people are a trip. One cannot be who they are on here without being beat up. Is this all it is about? I am here to tell you that I am not black and am not a widow. But you couldn’t resist going after me. I think it is funny. I am what Michelle accused me of. Spinlady.

  • BlackWidow

    notsofast said:
    I guess I will change my name to thewhitenotsofast. LOL

    I did that just for you Spector.

  • notsofast

    BlackWidow said:
    Oh my, you people are a trip. One cannot be who they are on here without being beat up. Is this all it is about? I am here to tell you that I am not black and am not a widow

    Lies from a lefty? BW, we would expect nothing less, Robert.

  • roxsteady

    Notsofast, I want to thank you for posting those disgusting signs about Bush. I can honestly say that I’d never seen any of them before and while they are also offensive, I didn’t see any racist signs or anyone calling Bush a cracker. It is racism in the Tea Party that this article is about. And while I can’t stand Palin, I found those signs to be equally offensive. See, this is what I meant by intellectual honesty. Now, that last one, which is a clip of Megan Kelly showing those racists idiots in the New Black Panther Party is also disgusting. These 3 idiots should be slammmed by all of you. And fox needs to explain why they keep bringing them on and giving them air time. Now, with all that said, I still don’t see why you and many others here can’t be honest enough to admit that some of the Tea Party people are racist. It’s not a reflection on you to admit that unless you agree with them.

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF do you realize how you talk “down” to people you don’t even know? What is up with that?

  • writer

    Louis Farrakhan is an avowed racist and Obama supporter. I didn’t notice the Democratic party denouncing his racism, or saying they didn’t want people such as him supporting their party.

  • MichelleF

    Oh I am a little slow. Maybe it is because I am black and a widow that you have a problem with. How can that be?

    Well pardon me for believing what YOU said. As much fun as it’s been banging my head against the wall, I think I will take a little break.

    thewhitenotsofast, you hold down the fort. Maybe whitewriter can help you.

  • roxsteady

    Oh, and MichelleF, your comment
    “Just more proof that the left sees race in everything and our side doesn’t. My mind just doesn’t go there.”

    That’s called denial.

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    Hey spiderlady, I had NO idea you were black, so stop the race-baiting. You’re making a fool out of yourself!

    I like you Michelle even if you hate me!!

  • Azarkhan

    “It would appear that intellectual courage is in short supply on this site from many of you. And by many, I mean not all of you.”

    This cracker is hoping he gets a pass!

  • MichelleF

    BlackWidow says:
    July 18, 2010 at 12:44 pm BlackWidow(Quote)
    0 0
    MichelleF do you realize how you talk “down” to people you don’t even know? What is up with that?

    spiderlady, do you realize you dragged me into the conversation with your very first post and I had NEVER even talked to you. Let’s not be hypocritical!

  • notsofast

    FYI to everyone.

    If you want to copy someone’s text into your reply to comment on it, you can do so by highlighting the text then hitting the (QUOTE) word next to the date of the text. You can do that with multiple sections of text.

    The text will automatically appear in the post you are about to make. Leave the html brackets in so they can highlight the text.

  • roxsteady

    Writer, did you actually read this article? This is not a tit for tat. Read my previous comment about the inability of many of you to deal with the facts. It’s like talking to a wall with many of you. Instead of dealing with what’s in this article, you’ve turned this into a contest. Is it really that hard to state the obvious?

  • http://apostrophejones.com Apostrophe jones

    Roxy is in the house . The Church of Satan rituals must be over . Colt 45 time ! Got a date for you , Roxy , with the clever internet name of Bill Adkins . Get him to order the ” expensive ” champagne . Isn’t that what the boss has the girls do with all the sailors ?

  • notsofast

    roxsteady said:
    I still don’t see why you and many others here can’t be honest enough to admit that some of the Tea Party people are racist.

    Rox, who is saying that the TP or any large group doesn’t have undesirables? But as I said in my earlier post:

    To say of a large group that they may have some racists in it is like saying to a group that they may have some Democrats, Republicans, Independents, cancer survivors, actors, engineers, teachers, etc. in it.

    It is meaningless.”

    And it is. It just makes race the focus of the TP which it is not!

    You want to attack the TP over its beliefs in less govt. and less spending? Let’s go, girl!

  • writer

    rox, the topic is about racists in the tea party. And since the Democrats have supporters who are racists and terrorists, it’s only fair to say that the Dems should denounce these people. If you expect the tea party to do it, they should all have to do it.

  • notsofast

    roxsteady said:
    Now, with all that said, I still don’t see why you and many others here can’t be honest enough to admit that some of the Tea Party people are racist. It’s not a reflection on you to admit that unless you agree with them.

    Rox, please view this.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/tea-party-attendee-confronts-proud-racist-in-swastika-shirt/

  • notsofast
  • GreyWolf

    Good Lord!! Regardless of what people say, and we may see it as racist, it’s still their right to freedom of speech even if we don’t like what they are saying (this goes for both sides of the continential divide).

    At least the VP got something right although he still doesn’t give examples of racist acts by the TeaParty. Wonder why?

    When we finally stand up to both political parties & unite? They are just using us for their power struggle & ignoring what we, the People want.

    I strongly recommend that everyone just read that new book where the people unite against the career politicians & bureaucrats & start the 2nd American Revolution. Hey it happened before & the same issues are the same (high taxes, continual foreign wars, bureaucrats send across the land to harass the people).

    It could be our hometown one day & that is why I recommend it. It’s a great read for now.
    http://www.booksbyoliver.com

  • MichelleF

    Oh before I go, I noticed that Mediaite STILL hasn’t reported on the claims that some of these so-called racist tp’s are actually lib plants:

    Bob Owens at Big Government reported yesterday that the far left Think Progress blog was using liberal-manufactured signs from Crash the Tea Party as evidence of tea party racism.

    Do you remember the abortive “Crash the Tea Party” movement? It was the brainchild of a liberal that explicitly called for progressives to commit fraud in order to attempt to discredit the Tea Party protests.
    At Pajamas Media we covered the abortive effort extensively, and made note of the very real bigotry the Crashers unwittingly revealed… in themselves.
    This morning, I came across this video from Think Progress:

    …Think Progress stitches together a series of posters they claim belong to Tea Party protesters.
    Really, Think Progress?
    Did you not think we’d remember the amusing signs your fellow liberals created for their little abortive “Crash the Tea Party” stunt in Boston? Let’s just say that some were more amusing than others, and some just showed pathetic and angry progressives often are.
    There is an old saying that you’re entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
    Right Klik points out that basically every scene in the Think Progress video was manufactured. The liberal blog even included video footage from 2006 – before there even was a tea party!
    So why would a leftist website put out such an obviously doctored video in order to smear the tea party movement?
    The Center for American Progress(CAP) is a George Soros-funded initiative. It was founded by former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta. Think Progress is one of the CAP’s blogs that “provides a forum that advances progressive ideas and policies.”
    According to Discover the Networks, after Barack Obama was elected President in 2008, CAP served as perhaps the most influential organization advising the new administration. Among Obama’s leading advisers were John Podesta and at least ten additional CAP experts.
    Last week the NAACP announced that they would pass a resolution that calls upon “all people of good will to repudiate the racism of the Tea Parties, and to stand in opposition to its drive to push our country back to the pre-civil rights era.” Two days later Think Progress released its fraudulent “racist” tea party video.
    It makes you think that these radical leftist groups might be coordinating their attacks on the tea party patriots… possibly from the White House. Now, wouldn’t that be shocking?
    No.
    More… Nano added:

    Both the NAACP and CAP are part of a new coalition of left side groups. Their new effort to replace the Coffee Party is called ‘One Nation’ and is a mash up of over 170 member groups that reads like a who’s who on the left.
    The NAACP racist claim and now this effort are all part of the game plan this new group is going to bring forward.
    Pure Alinsky tactics of trying to isolate and name call somebody into a defensive mode to give them a leg up to push their own agenda.

    UPDATE: Bob Owens has more today on this completely bogus video at Pajamas Media.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/obama-administration-linked-to-fraudulent-racist-tea-party-video/

  • lanquihue

    BlackWidow said:
    I am here to tell you that I am not black and am not a widow. But you couldn’t resist going after me.

    On another thread, you intentionally left the impression that you were black. I’m not going to scroll through the above bs, but I can safely presume you did the same here. Now, why would a person do that, if not for the purpose of race baiting? You’re kind of a dick.

  • Pablo

    writer said:
    rox, did the NAACP call out that guy who used “Uncle Tom”? And when Bill Ayers said he supported Obama, did you call upon the Democrats to purge the terrorists from their party? Why is it only the tea party that’s called upon to rid themselves of their bad elements?

    They’ve got to do something about the momentum.

  • roxsteady

    Notsofast, thanks for giving me instructions I was alread aware of. Now, if you could manage a comment on the substance of my comment I’d really be impressed. So far all you’ve proven is that your screen name isn’t a misnomer. I have to go now. Yankee game is starting and I’m tired of the cowardice displayed here. I really didn’t expect anything less from you folks though.

  • lanquihue

    roxsteady said:
    I have to go now. Yankee game is starting and I’m tired of the cowardice displayed here. I really didn’t expect anything less from you folks though.

    Hey rox, remember the other night when you were all fucked up and typing in all sorts of bizarre shit? You probably don’t, but I just wanted to tell you, it looks like you’re starting a little early today, and liberal, conservative, whatever, I hate to see people go down the drain. Don’t do it.

  • http://apostrophejones.com Apostrophe jones

    Roxy . Hope you sell a lot of peanuts and Crackerjack at the game , cracker .

  • bushamaNashon

    race is manufactured by government and used to fog the real issues from our sight. a good example of this, are all the comments on this board, arguing over a non-issue, while both cons and libs are being bent over. this is great stuff. we are doing exactly what they want us to do, and that is waste our time debating over nonsense. such a waste of time, such a waste of thought. lets all turn off the televisions, stop reading the papers, and stay the fuck off the internet, go outside and talk to our neighbors, our fellow man, and once and for all, squash this manufactured hate.

  • roxsteady

    Actually Pettit just gave up a 3 run homer but, here’s something for you deficit hawks like Notsofast who is now talking small government and lower taxes. I keep telling you that taxes are their lowest since Truman was in office but, as usual you ignore the facts. Maybe you could tell me where the teabaggers were during this period? And yes, I remember bitch slapping you folks. I can’t admit that many of you set me off constantly with your stupidity. Again, what else is new? When your party gets crushed again in November I’ll be here laughing at you again.

    http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/tea-party-contract-for-america-fiscal-suicide

    Jon Perr, from Crooks and Liars

    For starters, the Bush tax cuts the Tea Party wants to make permanent (10) are largely responsible for the expanding deficits in this decade and the next. As the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP) detailed, the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 accounted for almost half of the mushrooming deficits during his tenure. And as another recent CBPP analysis revealed, over the next 10 years, the Bush tax cuts will contribute more to the U.S. budget deficit than the Obama stimulus, the TARP program, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and revenue lost to the recession – combined. (Ending the so-called “death tax,” which impacts only 1 in 500 estates, will drain billions more per year from the U.S. Treasury.) An AP chart last fall of data from the Congress Budget Office show the explosion of federal debt that will ensue if the Tea Baggers and their Republicans get their way

  • notsofast

    Did ya see BlackWidow get nailed trying to change its sock to “TheTruthBeKnown?” Too bad for BW, that the Mediaite site kept her original sock up as well!

    And to choose the name “TheTruthBeKnown” when it was caught lying a number of times? Thta’s icing on its cake.

  • roxsteady

    Sorry, I meant, I can admit that you folks set me off. Now, read that article and dispute any of those facts. I dare you!

  • notsofast

    Rox, read this:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704738404575347302831199046.html

    * JULY 13, 2010

    The Bush Tax Cuts and the Deficit Myth
    Runaway government spending, not declining tax revenues, is the reason the U.S. faces dramatic budget shortfalls for years to come.

    The Bush tax cuts wiped out last decade’s budget surpluses. Sen. John Kerry (D., Mass.), for example, has long blamed the tax cuts for having “taken a $5.6 trillion surplus and turned it into deficits as far as the eye can see.” That $5.6 trillion surplus never existed.

    It was a projection by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) in January 2001 to cover the next decade. It assumed that late-1990s economic growth and the stock-market bubble (which had already peaked) would continue forever and generate record-high tax revenues. It assumed no recessions, no terrorist attacks, no wars, no natural disasters, and that all discretionary spending would fall to 1930s levels.

  • roxsteady

    Notsofast, you can’t be serious! I give you an article by the agency charged with knowing what they’re taling about and you give me an article from the Wall Street Journal written by Brian Reidl who, as the article states at the very end
    “Mr. Riedl is a research fellow at the Heritage Foundation” ? Do me a favor and click on the link below. This is a partisan Conservative foundation. You’ve really embarrassed yourself with this one. Unfortunately I can’t wait for your pathetic response. I’m about to do a system sweep but, don’t worry, I’ll be back online after the game. By the way for those of you who care, it’s now 3-2 Rays.

    http://www.askheritage.org/?utm_source=2010CCGoogleText&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=TheHeritageFoundationCC&utm_campaign=2010CC

  • roxsteady

    I’m about to shut down but, before I do, I thought I’d just show you the pretty color chart below from the CBPP. It will save you some time if you don’t want to read the entire article. Just scroll down and check out the chart in Figure 1.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=692

  • Pablo

    roxsteady said:
    This is a partisan Conservative foundation.

    What do you think the CBPP is?

    I give you an article by the agency charged with knowing what they’re taling about…

    Wait, you think that’s what the CBPP is? Really? Heh.

  • roxsteady

    All done with my sweep! Oh, and if you google the CBPP this is what you’ll see. Again, the facts don’t support your contention. Gotta go! Yanks have tied the score and I’m bored with exposing your ignorance!

    Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
    Non-partisan research and policy institute working on federal and state fiscal policies and public programs that affect low- and moderate-income Americans.
    http://www.cbpp.org/ – Cached – Similar

  • yweston

    LOVE THAT JOE!!!

  • roxsteady

    Notice how Notsofast and Pablo have disappeared? My work here is done! Just remember, if you’re going to argue with me you’d better have the facts or you’ll risk exposing your ignorance and inability to deal with reality.

  • lazzzlo

    I wandered into this one a wee bit late…but “cool”.

    The Tea Party isn’t racist. It’s nice to see an acknowledgment from The White House.

    Individual elements are extreme in a large politicized group of people that do fundamentally disagree with the mainstream regardless of which side the political spectrum they “believe”.

    I guess I could be characterized as a RINO since I am a moderately conservative person…but I’m not going to blindly follow a pack of “howling jackals” that get animated whenever something doesn’t go their way.

    That goes for both parties.

    Good thing I’m just an independent voter and a concerned citizen rather than a politician.

  • Pablo

    roxsteady said:
    Oh, and if you google the CBPP this is what you’ll see.

    I linked their About page. If you’ve got other evidence to link, link it. CBPP is no more non-partisan than Heritage. But that still doesn’t explain you thinking that they’re some sort of official authority on anything.

  • Azarkhan

    “I linked their About page…CBPP is no more non-partisan than Heritage.” Pablo

    I did also, and reached the same conclusion.

  • lazzzlo

    If you follow this link…http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7336
    you might get a little bit more info.

    When you google use a +funding parameter.

  • timzank

    roxsteady said:
    Notice how Notsofast and Pablo have disappeared? My work here is done! Just remember, if you’re going to argue with me you’d better have the facts or you’ll risk exposing your ignorance and inability to deal with reality.

    They, unlike you, probably had a real job to go to.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    I love how Tea Party haters only have alleged incidents to hang their hat on when they say elements of the Tea Party are racist. So basically they’re just making shit up.

    What’s ACTUALLY racist is thinking that people can only disagree with how a black man runs the country because he’s black — half black, technically. Maybe the Tea Party is actually judging him by the content of his character — you know, like what Dr. King would want.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    MichelleF said:
    Oh before I go, I noticed that Mediaite STILL hasn’t reported on the claims that some of these so-called racist tp’s are actually lib plants: …. http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/obama-administration-linked-to-fraudulent-racist-tea-party-video/

    Oh, this is rich – racist Tea Partiers don’t exist but if they do they’re ‘lib plants.’ You’re a fucking plant, Michelle – a stupid tree if there ever was one.

  • Patrick Henry

    roxsteady said:
    I keep telling you that taxes are their lowest since Truman was in office but, as usual you ignore the facts.

    Rox, you say taxes are the lowest now since Truman. Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t, I truly don’t know. I do think they are too high now and I think a lot of the money is wasted. I know they will soon be going much higher if the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire and a VAT is imposed on us.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    I agree with Joe.

    The Tea Party is not a racist organization.

    It is just filled with racists.

  • Patrick Henry

    BFD, that’s not nice.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    I guess George Bush and Dick Cheney were “lib plants” too, to make the GOP look like lying, war-mongering assholes..

    We are so clever..

  • BlackWidow

    MichelleF said:
    BlackWidow says:July 18, 2010 at 12:44 pm BlackWidow(Quote)0 0MichelleF do you realize how you talk “down” to people you don’t even know? What is up with that? spiderlady, do you realize you dragged me into the conversation with your very first post and I had NEVER even talked to you. Let’s not be hypocritical!

    Yes, and now that we have gone round and round and back again I apologize for doing all of that. I just got caught up in all the insanity that goes on here and did not behave myself. So sorry!

  • BlackWidow

    roxsteady said:
    Writer, did you actually read this article? This is not a tit for tat. Read my previous comment about the inability of many of you to deal with the facts. It’s like talking to a wall with many of you. Instead of dealing with what’s in this article, you’ve turned this into a contest. Is it really that hard to state the obvious?

    Rox, Republicans brains are just wired different then other people. If you really think any of them on here are going learn to deal with the real facts you are sadly banging your head against a brick wall.

  • BlackWidow

    Patrick Henry said:
    Rox, you say taxes are the lowest now since Truman. Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t, I truly don’t know. I do think they are too high now and I think a lot of the money is wasted. I know they will soon be going much higher if the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire and a VAT is imposed on us.

    Patrick Henry Rox is right. Taxes are the lowest they have been in years. If you are in a position to have higher taxes when the Bush Tax expires than I guess you can complain. There is going to be a VAT. That is an internet rumor.

  • Ted

    I fully expect the tea-bagging morons to suggest that Biden is wrong, that in fact, they are a racist organization. They are of course, but I would expect more dim witted tea-baggers to disagree with the VP.

  • http://none pyrope

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  • Some_Dude

    Well, I can’t fault Biden for reigning it in and trying to be a “good politician” for once. But as is the case with Democrats lately, he’s playing to the strengths of his opponents.

    The Tea Party is, by and large, a conduit for racist Americans and will continue to be. Regardless of how well he speaks of them, they’ll never vote Democrat. He should have just been himself and said what I think he truly felt. It’s flabbergasting how racist this so called movement is, and more people in power should condemn them.

  • NORBIT

    naacp rules on “racism”:
    ———————————-

    Support Bush…RACIST!
    Vote GOP…RACIST!
    Watch FOX….RACIST!
    Police…RACIST!
    Gun Owners…RACIST!
    Southerners…RACIST!
    Christians…RACIST!
    Tea Party….RACIST!
    Want lower taxes…RACIST!
    Enforce immigration laws…RACIST!
    Elderly @ town halls…RACIST!
    Support family values…RACIST!
    Personal Responsibility…RACIST!
    White & disagree with liberals…RACIST!
    Black & disagree (Clarence Thomas)…UNCLE TOM!

  • Pablo

    Some_Dude said:
    It’s flabbergasting how racist this so called movement is, and more people in power should condemn them.

    It’s almost as bad as the Democrat party!

  • NORBIT

    Now take a good look around at who the real RACISTS are! – THE INTOLERANT LEFT!
    Just pay attention at who’s first to bring RACE into a debate – THE INTOLERANT LEFT!
    Who promotes the primitive concept of “GROUP-IDENTITY” – THE INTOLERANT LEFT!
    Who uses accusations of ‘RACISM’ to smear political opponents -THE INTOLERANT LEFT!
    Who feigns outrage over Glenn Beck, yet lauds the likes of Olbermann, Sharpton, Shultz, and my personal favorite, the Rev. Wright – THE INTOLERANT LEFT!

  • writer

    How many tea partiers planted a bomb in the Pentagon? When will the Democrats condemn the terrorists in their midst?

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