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The Mystery Of How Spilt Wine Landed On Glenn Beck’s Blanket In Bryant Park

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What Glenn Beck says happened

Glenn Beck, on his part, disputes a great deal of these claims. In fact, the only intersection between these two stories is that wine, at some point, was spilled in the vicinity of Beck’s family. In his first attempt of telling the story, Beck notes the crowd was so vicious he thought they would lynch him if he gave them a rope– likely intentional hyperbole. On Fox News later in the day, he retold the story sans lynching metaphors, but the structure was the same: he was jeered, his wife had wine spilled on her, but he did not leave as a display of courage. On his radio show today, he addressed Piscitell’s claims:


Beck called the claims “false” and identified Piscitell as “The lady, I’m sure, that screamed at me ‘You’re in a park! Get over it! When you come to a public park you should expect gymnastics!’” He also defended his bodyguards, who Piscitell accused of unnecessary prickliness, noting that “these guys are unbelievably professional” and that they said “not a word” at anyone (Piscitell says the bodyguards told them to knock off the acrobatics). As noted before, Beck also noted the evidence via The Blaze on his side of hateful invective at him from Piscatell, who claims to be a friend of the wine-spilling culprit. He noted that even in her claims that it was an accident, Piscitell tweeted, “we were of course, [sic] VERY happy that it happened.”

The acrobatics may also be a key to proving Beck’s point right, as the witness that spoke to Bershad also noted Piscitell’s friends doing them: “the only real jeers she heard were directed at a group doing fake acrobatics sitting near him.” Bershad’s witness did not specify whether the bodyguards were jeering as well, but from the context, it appears that, if they were annoyed by the acrobatics, they weren’t the only ones.

Beck has Piscitell’s ill will on his side– no matter what actually transpired between Beck’s family and Piscitell’s friends, the evidence is overwhelming that she is more than happy that something bad happened to Glenn Beck. Not that this translates into guilt, but it certainly does nothing to help her account.

But as much as Piscitell and company has the motive to commit the crime, so does Beck have the motive to want to incite it– his last week at Fox News. It is as much as “happy accident” for Piscitell that Tania Beck had wine spilled on her as it is a “happy accident” for Fox News’ The Glenn Beck Program to have a major controversy involving hateful liberals occurring during it’s last week on air. The crowd at a Bryant Park Movie Night is fairly predictably liberal– Beck must have known he was going into the lion’s den– and as much as his point about being courageous is a valid one in going, the evidence of him going out to similar events in the past is rather scarce (the only similar event in recent memory is his field trip to Harlem for the program in October 2009).

What we think happened

As with every news-story-cum-Rashomon-remake, it will probably take the testimonies of several other witnesses coming forward to figure out what truly happened at that park, or perhaps security camera evidence if it exists. Motives for hyperbole on both sides exist, as does universal evidence that something that upset Beck’s family happened– only the magnitude is in dispute. The facts we know for sure are that Beck and his family were at the movie event, some people near them were doing fake acrobatics, and some alcoholic liquid found itself on Tania Beck. After that, only Beck made a story out of it– a suspiciously convenient story which he embellished with lynching references and tears. Piscitell, while not exactly a fully reliable witness, gains nothing but 15 minutes of liberal martyrdom by attacking, while viewers flock to Beck’s program expecting further outrageous details. As tomorrow is Beck’s last night on Fox News, one would expect him not to devote much time to this private event, but the back and forth about an occurrence at such a public venue is bound to blossom more witnesses as the story develops.

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  • juan

    BECK is always correct!

  • juan

    It’s good to know that NUMEROUS complaints have been reported and filed with the IRS about MediaMatters 501(c)(3) status!!

  • struckgld

    *** Hilarious! We have the videos of “Progressives” ranting, raving, screaming, lying, and every other uncivil act thousands of times every time conservatives are in the area.

    For starters, watch the videos of conservatives giving a talk at any college and you will see them shouted down, screamed at, and forced off campus.

    Enough said.

  • struckgld

    Liberals lie and never stop lying. It is the only thing they have.

  • struckgld

    Just got done filing another complaint with the IRS over Media Matters and their phony “tax exempt” status.

  • laceyunderalls

    An “accident” that she’s “happy” about?

    Oh okay, nice work in finding a credible source Mediate.

  • Ardiva

    struckgld….and I’m sure the IRS will get right on it for ya too.

  • AmericaSucks

    Well, we only know much at all about one of the two people who are telling the story, and we know that he’s a liar, so it’s hard not to think he might have, oh, “exaggerated” just a bit in order to play the victim. It’s what he does.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    struckgld said:
    *** Hilarious! We have the videos of “Progressives” ranting, raving, screaming, lying, and every other uncivil act thousands of times every time conservatives are in the area.

    For starters, watch the videos of conservatives giving a talk at any college and you will see them shouted down, screamed at, and forced off campus.

    Enough said.

    or you could just go to one of their rallies to observe their tolerance.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VioxnBaI&feature=related

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Holy wall of words, Mediaite!

    Que 200 unreasonable posts which intends to allege that progressives really wouldn’t verbally assault Beck, in spite of activists of their kind being well known for going out of the way to physically assault Rand Paul or Ann Coulter or Newt Gingrinch or Michelle Bachmann or any number of lesser known college speakers, and in spite of their party machine activists marching on the lawns of private business people or forming a crush of people in places of business so as to intimidate them, and despite that a good number of the base philosophical aligned with progressivism is well known for shouting down anyone who holds opinions other than their own. Alternatively, expect a lesser number of these posts to admit that even if it had happened Beck deserved it anyway because these posters profess to believe their own lies they’ve written about him.

    And also the 100 posts that make sense.

  • Jaurez

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    or you could just go to one of their rallies to observe their tolerance.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VioxnBaI&feature=related

    The “2 wrongs make a right” argument loses every time.

  • Sanders Youth

    It’s is entirely typical that as Glenn Beck leaves the public stage he would have to have an Ashley Todd moment.

  • kvon

    Such a little pussy that Beck.

  • BFD

    I don’t know what to make out of all this but I do know one thing…

    It is definitely nothing for a grown man to cry over.

  • Emma

    And somehow, this is important?

  • Sanders Youth

    BFD said:
    I don’t know what to make out of all this but I do know one thing…

    It is definitely nothing for a grown man to cry over.

    Like the above poster said Glenn Beck is a pussy.

  • TfT

    Honestly Frances, you make me laugh. the benefit of the doubt goes to the lbieral loons.

    bwahahahaha

    what a headline….

    Poor Dan, again, Frances you have made him so proud.

  • Jaurez

    Sanders Sock said:
    Like the above poster said Glenn Beck is a pussy.

    Last day, sanders sock, this is your last day! LOL!

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Sanders Youth said:
    Like the above poster said Glenn Beck is a pussy.

    BFD said:
    I don’t know what to make out of all this but I do know one thing…

    It is definitely nothing for a grown man to cry over.

    kvon said:
    Such a little pussy that Beck.

    Surely, with this proudly displayed maturity level, fellow leftists wouldn’t have shouted at Beck!!

  • BFD

    Let’s recap….

    Was Glenn Beck ridiculed and yelled at?

    Yes. I would have done the same thing.

    Were the people behind him assholes?

    Sounds like it. Acrobats?

    Was the wine spilled accidentally or purposely to appear like an accident.

    I don’t think we’ll ever have a definitive answer.

    Is this something for a grown man to cry about?

    Not even close.

  • hanmei

    Baseball is partially engrained in every American’s brain, and partially engrained in every little boy’s fantasy about his grown-up life. Baseball is that American classic of a game that’s persisted through numerous decades, yet that still remains true to its roots. This said, baseball uniforms have changed very little since the beginning of the sport. On the other hand, basketball, which is also a classic American sport, has changed drastically. Basketball uniforms have perhaps changed the most drastically of any athletic sport; uniforms that once consisted of short shorts now promote longer, looser shorts with different shoes. Yet these two sports do have one thing in common: They unite the American public in ways that even the President hasn’t been able to do. So let’s give each a round of applause for the positive effects they’ve had on culture, society, and of course, fashion.The 1920′s saw the popularity of basketball increase, and at this time basketball uniforms consisted of padded, quilt-like shorts and jersey made of wool. The company Spalding, which now brands basketballs, was the first to make these specifically produced padded shorts. These basketball shorts are now recognized worldwide as a staple of the 1920′s sports economy, and are high priced artifacts. These shorts can be auctioned off from anywhere from $300 to $600 a pop! Women’s uniforms, sadly, only had one memorable period during basketball history. When women’s basketball first started, women actually wore skirts on the court! These skirts were worn in conjunction with short-sleeve shirts that had built in bras. Thankfully, this style didn’t last too long!Ah, the glorious fashion trends of the 70′s. Any quick look through your parent’s high school yearbook will give insight into some of the popular basketball uniforms of that particular era. In lieu of fashion, basketball shorts during the 70′s were shorter, tighter, and fairly humorous by our standards today. However, a few decades later during the 90′s, basketball shorts became more breezy and longer in length, ushering in an era of baggy, loose basketball shorts and free-flowing jerseys. During this time, shoes took a drastic change from high tops to a more flexible form that was more compatible with the quick moves of pro basketball players. Basketball became somewhat more stylish during the 90′s, completely laying to rest the era of short shorts and tight jerseys.Part of the baseball tradition is the non-departure from its original uniform. During the first game of baseball, baseball uniforms included pantaloon-like pants with flannel material shirts. Also, as history pictures tell us, straw hats were part of the lineup! The only thing that’s changed in the history of uniforms is that vertical stripes were implemented during the eighties. Players also donned different colors depending on their teams, and depending on if it was an away or a home game. The knickers that baseball players currently wear were implemented between the transition of the 19th and 20th century. Baseball players quit the heavy, quilted pants they were used to wearing and donned knickers, which are now in regular rotation with most baseball teams.The baseball cap is an American staple. Whether you’re working on your car, going hiking, or just don’t want to wash your hair, a baseball cap is a regular part of the American wardrobe. The baseball cap is an integral part of the baseball uniform, and has existed in one form or another since the beginning of baseball (with the exception of the very first straw hat). Hilariously, the baseball cap at different points in time featured styles like the “pillbox,” the “cake box,” and the “Brooklyn” design, all of which can be viewed in hindsight as highly humorous cap trends. However, it was the baseball hat today we’re all familiar with that has become the norm for baseball, with its primary function to keep the sun out of the players’ eyes. Other than that, baseball’s various uniforms have rarely strayed from the original lineup of a long sleeve shirt, knickers, and of course, the classic baseball hat. Reebok Chicago Bears 19 Devin Aromashodu Orange

  • Jaurez

    BFC’ser said:
    I would have done the same thing.

    Nobody has or will ever accuse you of having any class.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    When will the Democratic Media Machine – CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN – REPORT on the amount of falsehoods POLITICO DOCUMENTED(!) that Barack Obama made?

    Why does the Democratic Media LIE to you (by omission), and ONLY REPORT what Politico says about Republicans?

    Pass this info on to all your contacts!!!

    NEVER TRUST THE BIAS DEMOCRATIC MEDIA!

  • BFD

    This just in….

    Beck attended a movie with a crying baby behind him.

    He will cry about it on tomorrows show.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    The Democratic Media is in full attack mode with Michele Bachman.

    One of their DIRTY TRICKS is to portray her as extreme (a familiar staple, along with the lowly RACE-CARD they play consistently; they are the lowest of the low, are they not?) by parroting the SMEARS of their Democratic Soulmates!!

    Pass this info on to all your contacts!!!

    NEVER TRUST THE BIAS DEMOCRATIC MEDIA!

  • BFD

    At least Newt Gingrich didn’t cry when the guy cornered him at the airport and told him he should be ashamed of himself.

  • Jaurez

    BFC’ser said:
    He will cry about it on tomorrows show.

    And you will be glued to your radio and The Blaze. ROFLMBAO!!!!

  • david r

    Here is what I think happened. Piscitell and friends talked it over and thought how funny it would be to fake some acrobatics and kick wine on Glenn Beck, all the while acting like it was an accident, but later holding the revolutionary fist high and going out for drinks.

  • rubberneck

    Anything real happen today?

  • da-wdc

    Thanks for the Rashomon reference, now I don’t feel quite as bad about having read several different stories on this utterly irrelevant issue.

  • BFD

    david r said:
    Piscitell and friends talked it over and thought how funny it would be to fake some acrobatics and kick wine on Glenn Beck, all the while acting like it was an accident, but later holding the revolutionary fist high and going out for drinks.

    If that is true it sounds like an Archduke Ferdinand moment.

    I’m sure Beck would agree.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BFD said:
    Let’s recap….

    Was Glenn Beck ridiculed and yelled at?

    Yes. I would have done the same thing.

    Well, aren’t you special. Good to know nobody around you is safe who holds a different political opinion. You proud of your promise to be an ignorant, loud mouthed partisan and political bully?

    This is why Beck asks for his listeners to be decent people and aspire towards that which is good, for with an attitude such as you hold, you’re bound to lose. This is also why your kind hates him, for he shines a light on your core values and it’s repugnant nature.

    Were the people behind him assholes?

    Sounds like it. Acrobats?

    Well, at least there’s that admission.

    Was the wine spilled accidentally or purposely to appear like an accident.

    I don’t think we’ll ever have a definitive answer.

    So it’s just a coincidence that the wine ‘spilling’ just so happened to surface as a suggestion beforehand by a twitter friend even as another among those behind Beck was soliciting suggests as to what they might do to display their displeasure?

    My, grandma, what big benifit of the doubt you have!

    This was a pre-meditated assault on the wife of Glenn Beck. Has it come to the point that any progressive in the country should be considered a potential assailant or do you suppose it was just a couple bad apples?

    From the record, it would seem that particular group would prefer it to be the former. Ignorant people to say the least.

    Is this something for a grown man to cry about?

    Not even close.

    He’s practically half woman, by his own admission. Get over it.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    BFD said:
    At least Newt Gingrich didn’t cry when the guy cornered him at the airport and told him he should be ashamed of himself.

    Did someone tell you to be ashamed of yourself, BFD?

  • Jaurez

    rubberneck said:
    Anything real happen today?

    Obama lied his ass off on tv, again.

  • Jaurez

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    Did someone tell you to be ashamed of yourself, BFD?

    Just his dad and mother.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BFD said:
    If that is true it sounds like an Archduke Ferdinand moment.

    I’m sure Beck would agree.

    Are you going to stick with that line of attack even after the Muslim Brotherhood officially takes control of Egypt and shreds it’s peace treaty with Israel?

    Thousands have already lost their lives in this season’s uprisings, governments hang by a thread, Imams are taking to the airways imploring their people to ally themselves with the immoral man who is strong in the defense of Islam and you’re making snide cracks at Beck’s expense because you actually think it’s clever.

    Chuckleheaded critiques such as these show just how intellectually bankrupt are Beck’s critics on this site.

  • david r

    BFD said:
    If that is true it sounds like an Archduke Ferdinand moment.

    I’m sure Beck would agree.

    I was thinking Ashton Kutcher more than Archduke Ferdinand.

  • Skippy

    The Rashomon reference is right on the mark

    The Baboon went from a LBRUL lynch mob to “someone spilled wine on my wife and I was fearing for Amy family”

    The point here, for the idiots who cannot read, the Baboon went from a mob to a single individual, characterizing such individual as “LBRUL ELITE”

    Baboon, here is one idea for your next show.

    Go to Florida, and jump into a crock farm.

    Then you can blame George Soros and the LRBULS.

  • BFD

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Are you going to stick with that line of attack even after the Muslim Brotherhood officially takes control of Egypt and shreds it’s peace treaty with Israel?

    Get back to me when a Caliphate has taken over Europe and Asia and then in the ensuing chaos the Muslims, the communists and the socialists battle it out to see who will be Top Dog in a New World Order that destroys the American way of life as we know it now. Also, when Australia become a province of Communist China.

    Thanks.

  • Jaurez

    BFD said:
    Get back to me when a Caliphate has taken over Europe and Asia

    LOL! He’s moving the goal posts completely off the field. ROFLMBAO!

  • Skippy

    Jaurez said:
    Obama lied his ass off on tv, again.

    That was a nice touch, Jeffy.

    You have gone from hating Keith Olbermann to hating Mexicans.

    Oh, wait. Like we didn’t know that…

  • Fokker News

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Are you going to stick with that line of attack even after the Muslim Brotherhood officially takes control of Egypt and shreds it’s peace treaty with Israel?

    Yes, as long as it is democratic and it is a government for the people by the people. We had our revolution and then a civil war to demand human decency from people who held “Judeo-Christian” values.

  • kit9

    The woman claimed that Beck’s bodyguards, “seemed to be unnecessarily prickly with the crowd.” Hm, how does one ‘seem to be unnecessarily prickly’ with a large group of people? Does that mean the bodyguards didn’t compliment the crowd on their appearance and ask them out to dinner? And how do you ‘seem’ to be prickly? You either are or you aren’t. And, again, how do two people sitting on a blanket come off as prickly to a crowd? Hm, all good questions that I would expect Francis ‘Poli Sci Degree’ Martel’s massive intellect to tackle and, yet, she does not.

    Then, the Piscitell woman, said of the wine spilling, “and I can assure you that it was a complete accident. A HAPPY ONE, to be sure, but nonetheless a complete and utter accident”. So, spilling wine on a complete stranger is a ‘happy’ accident? No Beck hatred there, right? How can anyone take anything this woman says seriously after she made that statement? She’s actually admitting she got a thrill from spilling wine on Beck’s wife. Her credibility is now zero.

    But the woman continued, “apologies were made and my friends pretty much scrambled to give Tanya & co napkins -no doubt aware that it would look terrible and that their actions could be perceived as purposeful”. Really, you thought an honest mistake would be perceived as purposeful? And look terrible? Why? How? Do you think Beck has a Liberal Detecting Wand that would be able to magically identify your political views? Jesus, the vast majority of New Yorkers have no clue who Beck is so why would you be so concerned with appearances? Obviously, this woman and her douche friend had been making nasty comments before the wine spill incident. It’s the only thing that explains Piscitell’s comment.

    ‘the evidence is overwhelming that she is more than happy that something bad happened to Glenn Beck. Not that this translates into guilt, but it certainly does nothing to help her account.’

    Not that this translates into guilt? For christ’s sake, it doesn’t take a genius with a Poli Sci degree to figure out what happened. This woman and her friends decided to f with Beck. It’s clear this idiot woman and her idiot friends spilled the wine on purpose.

  • Jaurez

    Fokker News said:
    Yes, as long as it is democratic and it is a government for the people by the people. We had our revolution and then a civil war to demand human decency from people who held “Judeo-Christian” values.

    Are you bfd? Rhetorical question.

  • Jaurez

    Skippy said:
    You have gone from hating Keith Olbermann to hating Mexicans.

    Peanut, are you saying that your co-hort sometimes known as “AmericaSucks” hates Americans?

  • BatBoy

    If you read this article, you have just experienced what most street cops go through on a daily basis.

    It is the classic he said this, she said that.

    While we have always heard there are two sides to every story, I found that there is ALWAYS one more side than the number of witnesses envolved.

    The RIGHT side, is what the cop has to decide….RIGHT or WRONG!

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BFD said:
    Get back to me when a Caliphate has taken over Europe and Asia and then in the ensuing chaos the Muslims, the communists and the socialists battle it out to see who will be Top Dog in a New World Order that destroys the American way of life as we know it now. Also, when Australia become a province of Communist China.

    Thanks.

    Just as with the die hard, out on the open, socialists who presume to provide cover for Obama and never admit his policies are inspired by a shared ideology – and wouldn’t stop with that lie until every American were in Obama camps (patent pending – this is a hyperbolic point), with red flags flying on the parapets, and they were forced to listen to Marxist slogans shouted from loudspeakers 21 hours a day – you are ideologically bound to reject an obvious truth before you for mere, and dubious, political gain, regardless of evidence or critical thought.

    To defend your stands, you have your lies, constructed character narratives and, in this case, a stated blind willingness to oppose Beck’s cogent and thoughtful analysis in a mocking manner, even as every day confirms the accuracy of his foresight and demonstrates your criticism of it to be nonsensical. But didn’t I already say something about your sides’ intellectual bankruptcy?

    Maybe you’ll lose the snide attitude after the next thousand die.

  • juan

    Skippy said:
    Then you can blame George Soros and the LRBULS.

    That’s who Obama can blame, too, with his poll numbers tanking!

  • TheRealRoyalQueen

    Frances, I have to ask. Why did you not show us the exact tweets made by Mrs Lindsey & the reply from he friend Marissa? You know, the tweet Marissa made in reply to Lindsey’s tweet? You know, the tweet From Marissa to Lindsey telling her to “spill something on him” & to “kick him in the mouth”? Why didn’t you mention that? I mean, you knew anyone who had been following this on twitter since yesterday knew people like you would “report” on this, but we also know people like you will leave out very important facts like Marissa telling Lindsey to “spill something on him” & to “kick him in the mouth” so that when you tell your fairy tale, evil Glenn Beck looks like a lying monster and these violent liberals will look like oppressed victims. Well guess what Frances, we know your game. We took screen captures of Lindsey & Marissa’ tweets. We know what really happened d. Answer me this Frances. The people doing acrobatics, it was Lindsey & her buddies. Looking at the pictures of the evnt, it was extremely crowded. How could anyone do any type of acrobatics with now space? Answers the “kick him in the mouth excuse. And “spilling” the wine speaks for itself.
    Frances, you are a poor excuse for a human being & a “journalist”. In all my life I have never seen such a slanted story in my life. I hope you sleep well tonight. And I hope the 30 pieces of silver you got for writing this abomination is worth it. I will never belive a word you write again.

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    TfT said:
    Honestly Frances, you make me laugh. the benefit of the doubt goes to the lbieral loons.

    bwahahahaha

    what a headline….

    Poor Dan, again, Frances you have made him so proud.

    But, but Frannie is an non-partisan independent. She said so!

  • Sanders Youth

    da-wdc said:
    Thanks for the Rashomon reference, now I don’t feel quite as bad about having read several different stories on this utterly irrelevant issue.

    It was the only redeeming quality of this non story if there was one.

  • juan

    Texas Gov. Perry urges US attorney general to act against pro-Palestinian protestors

    AUSTIN, Texas — Texas Gov. Rick Perry is urging the U.S. attorney general to take action against Americans who take part in a pro-Palestinian protest.

    The governor wrote in a letter Wednesday that he was concerned about two U.S.-flagged ships that plan to challenge the Israeli naval blockade on the Gaza Strip. He urged U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to take legal steps to stop Americans from taking part in the attempt to reach Gaza, or to prosecute them if they do.

    Perry sites U.S. federal law that prohibits U.S. citizens from taking maritime action against a friendly country. The Texas governor is a frequent visitor to Israel and is considering a run for president in 2012.

    http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/story/c75a92d2ec2f4a569209a8e6d0580e6f/TX–Perry-Israel/

  • Sanders Youth

    Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
    But, but Frannie is an non-partisan independent. She said so!

    You are both wrong she is the Harvard Ann Coulter.

    Speaking of Facebook sleuthing, I did find one Harvard girl IvyHate seems to find quite hot, a woman who some falsely claim to be the Ann Coulter of the class of 2009 (I like to reserve that title to myself, thank you very much). In this article on the high-brow, low-IQ Aryan princess Lucy Morrow Caldwell, you will find an extremely strange post in the comments section.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20080112073536/harvardindy.wordpress.com/2007/10/23/nice-try-hiding-your-anti-harvard-agenda-ivygate/

  • BFD

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Well, aren’t you special. Good to know nobody around you is safe who holds a different political opinion.

    lol@ calling the President of the United States a racist a political opinion.
    I don’t care where you are, if you do that you are going to get a piece of mind.

  • juan

    TheRealRoyalQueen said:
    Frances, I have to ask. Why did you not show us the exact tweets made by Mrs Lindsey & the reply from he friend Marissa?

    Yes, Frances, why? You’re not pulling a Tommy Christopher on us, are ya?

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    BFD said:
    lol@ calling the President of the United States a racist a political opinion.
    I don’t care where you are, if you do that you are going to get a piece of mind.

    There is plenty of evidence to support that Obama has a problem with white people, based on his associations and his own words.

  • jelliebean

    Another pile of dog mess from the mouth of Beck.

  • juan

    BFD said:
    lol@ calling the President of the United States a racist a political opinion.
    I don’t care where you are, if you do that you are going to get a piece of mind.

    Not when it’s true!

  • Jon Bershad

    My (worthless) two cents: That Blaze article that goes on and on to discredit the woman witness is pretty ridiculous. Beck may be leaving Fox News but his team retains that network’s love of aiming every single gun available at anyone they deem an enemy (see Fox News’ 24/7 attack on Jon Stewart). That being said, while the Blaze investigation seemed a little over-zealous, they also obtained some pretty damning evidence. At the very least, the girl’s tweets show that she was purposely trying to provoke Beck and his security guards. Whether she and her friends did anything other than be annoying and take pictures is unknown, but they definitely were antagonistic.

    However, if you look at those pictures, you’ll see just how crowded that park was. If any famous TV star (left, right, or apolitical) plops themselves down in the middle of a thousand people with two security guards flanking them, they’re going to get attention from the crowd. I don’t care if it’s New York City or the Podunk County Fair.

    Really though, I think this is a story that everyone involved would be best letting fade away. The girl was kind of asking for negative attention by sending that letter to New York Magazine. And, Beck, if he really wants to protect his family, should stop calling attention to a story that involves tons of pictures of them (no celebrity, especially a controversial one, would ever want pictures of their kids online. I completely sympathise with him there).

    I think what makes me most uncomfortable about this whole thing is that I feel like some people are using it as an excuse to talk about how much they hate “Liberal” New York without having to say why they’re really angry at the state right now. Really, I think this is less a Left/Right issue and more a unruly mob/famous person issue (I really doubt anyone yelled anything as incredibly on the nose as “We hate Conservatives here!” If you saw that dialogue in a movie, you’d think the writer was an idiot)

    Anyway, that was more like 15 cents than two. Sorry!

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Fokker News said:
    Yes, as long as it is democratic and it is a government for the people by the people. We had our revolution and then a civil war to demand human decency from people who held “Judeo-Christian” values.

    Freedom, which you might suppose is the object of the middle east revolts, is in our country supported by our republican form of government. Not our democracy. Democracy is a process through which various styles of governments are selected, not the governing system itself. Iran is democratic, genius. So did **(violation of Godwin’s law redacted)** rise to power through democratic means.

    Unstructured democracy is rule by mob, the direction of which is taken by the loudest segment. In the case of the middle east, the segment of society with the greatest political strength – outside perhaps the army – are the Islamic fundamentalists, a group that has absolutely no pretense to the tolerance you castigate your own country for failing to timely develop. This in a culture with no history of political freedom.

    So, with your “Yes,” you stand with what would be an unmitigated disaster for American interests and the safety and those ‘freedom seeking peoples’ you profess to support. For once the Muslim Brotherhood tears up the treaty with Israel and declares their war, the Palestinian people will be stuck between massive opposing tank formations. It won’t be like the Lebanon “war” or the brush up that happened a couple years ago in Gaza. But actual conventional forces combat.

    All in favor of your ill formed opinion on “democracy.”

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BFD said:
    lol@ calling the President of the United States a racist a political opinion.
    I don’t care where you are, if you do that you are going to get a piece of mind.

    You address none of my points and try to continue from another angle with another groundless character attack.

    You’re Intellectually bankrupt, BFD, and incapable of even defending that which you brought up. As I said – your argumentation is nothing but deception upon deception.

  • http://MsUnderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    AmericaSucks said:
    Well, we only know much at all about one of the two people who are telling the story, and we know that he’s a liar, so it’s hard not to think he might have, oh, “exaggerated” just a bit in order to play the victim. It’s what he does.

    We know that he’s a “liar?” Really? Proof please. And soon. Otherwise you will be PROVEN to be the liar, although I’m sure you won’t care much because it won’t surprise you.

  • Sanders Youth

    Jon Bershad said:
    My (worthless) two cents: That Blaze article that goes on and on to discredit the woman witness is pretty ridiculous. Beck may be leaving Fox News but his team retains that network’s love of aiming every single gun available at anyone they deem an enemy (see Fox News’ 24/7 attack on Jon Stewart). That being said, while the Blaze investigation seemed a little over-zealous, they also obtained some pretty damning evidence. At the very least, the girl’s tweets show that she was purposely trying to provoke Beck and his security guards. Whether she and her friends did anything other than be annoying and take pictures is unknown, but they definitely were antagonistic.

    However, if you look at those pictures, you’ll see just how crowded that park was. If any famous TV star (left, right, or apolitical) plops themselves down in the middle of a thousand people with two security guards flanking them, they’re going to get attention from the crowd. I don’t care if it’s New York City or the Podunk County Fair.

    Really though, I think this is a story that everyone involved would be best letting fade away. The girl was kind of asking for negative attention by sending that letter to New York Magazine. And, Beck, if he really wants to protect his family, should stop calling attention to a story that involves tons of pictures of them (no celebrity, especially a controversial one, would ever want pictures of their kids online. I completely sympathise with him there).

    I think what makes me most uncomfortable about this whole thing is that I feel like some people are using it as an excuse to talk about how much they hate “Liberal” New York without having to say why they’re really angry at the state right now. Really, I think this is less a Left/Right issue and more a unruly mob/famous person issue (I really doubt anyone yelled anything as incredibly on the nose as “We hate Conservatives here!” If you saw that dialogue in a movie, you’d think the writer was an idiot)

    Anyway, that was more like 15 cents than two. Sorry!

    Glad someone at Mediaite picked up on the fact that all the NY hate at the moment comes from the gay marriage thing. Very obvious from the comments, and somewhat obvious from Beck making this his Little Big Horn moment before he rides off into the sunset. Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. But glad to have the chance to say once again. CONGRATULATIONS NEW YORK FOR DOING WHAT EVENTUALLY EVERY STATE IN THE UNION WILL BE DOING AND THAT IS MAKING GAY MARRIAGE LEGAL!!!

  • BFD

    MsUnderestimated said:
    We know that he’s a “liar?” Really? Proof please.

    His performance and apology on the View proved he was lying about them to make him look good and them bad.

    For many more lies please visit Politifact. Thanks.

  • david r

    Jon Bershad said:
    My (worthless) two cents:
    . . .

    Really, I think this is less a Left/Right issue and more a unruly mob/famous person issue. . .

    I think this sums it up. Sadly, famous people can’t take in movies in the park. I think the whole thing was a juvenile prank that GB over-dramatized.

  • juan

    Jon Bershad said:
    (see Fox News’ 24/7 attack on Jon Stewart)

    As if Jon Stewat do that to Fox News!

    Try again!

  • seek

    david r said:
    I think this sums it up. Sadly, famous people can’t take in movies in the park. I think the whole thing was a juvenile prank that GB over-dramatized.

    Not if he felt his family was threatened. Then GB is perfectly in his right to call attention to it. In this Country – we don’t act like hoodlums unless in fact we are hoodlums and know of no other way to act.

    Please don’t give bad behaviour a pass. It’s not judged by what degree YOU feel it was bad behaviour – it’s by how the people involved feel.

    That woman clearly hated Beck and she wanted him to know. Pretty juvenile I admit – but none the less threatening.

  • Cecelia

    “However, if you look at those pictures, you’ll see just how crowded that park was. If any famous TV star (left, right, or apolitical) plops themselves down in the middle of a thousand people with two security guards flanking them, they’re going to get attention from the crowd. I don’t care if it’s New York City or the Podunk County Fair.”

    Yeah. That’s just begging for trouble.

    I can certainly understand Beck’s level of emotion about being shaken in this way, though.

    Several years ago my daughter and I were visiting some relatives and went to an outdoor arts festival, that unfortunately was taken over by a large mass of teenagers.

    It was Sunday, shops were closed, there were no police or other security around, and women ended up having to walk through a gauntlet of punks making vulgar comments and even coming up and putting their arms around us, etc.

    I will never forget that feeling of desperate fear. I got nail file out of my purse in case I was going to have to stab one of those kids. Just awful.

    What the hell was Glenn Beck thinking when he made THAT decision.

  • juan

    Sanders Youth said:
    Glad someone at Mediaite picked up on the fact that all the NY hate at the moment comes from the gay marriage thing. Very obvious from the comments, and somewhat obvious from Beck making this his Little Big Horn moment before he rides off into the sunset. Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. But glad to have the chance to say once again. CONGRATULATIONS NEW YORK FOR DOING WHAT EVENTUALLY EVERY STATE IN THE UNION WILL BE DOING AND THAT IS MAKING GAY MARRIAGE LEGAL!!!

    You’re fooling yourself!

    Bet they don’t!

  • Tedderman

    How did this get from a spilled glass of wine to “conventional forces combat?” Jeesh!

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BFD said:
    His performance and apology on the View proved he was lying about them to make him look good and them bad.

    For many more lies please visit Politifact. Thanks.

    BFD deflects with yet another false narrative!

    So low, BFD, for such a person who holds as you do that ‘lies’ are such indicators to character… to be reduced to lying yourself

    Can you defend nothing of which you believe or assert or does your entire political philosophy consist of repeating nothing but lies?

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    Jon says:

    Really, I think this is less a Left/Right issue and more a unruly mob/famous person issue (I really doubt anyone yelled anything as incredibly on the nose as “We hate Conservatives here!”

    Shocking that you would try to spin the actions of your fellow libs.

  • http://MsUnderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    BFD said:
    His performance and apology on the View proved he was lying about them to make him look good and them bad.

    For many more lies please visit Politifact. Thanks.

    Really? His performance on The View is proof of a lie? Ceding that, that is WEAK, but I don’t think it’s true. Also regarding Politifact: since when is it a harbinger of all things true? If you have more examples, feel free to copy/paste them here FROM Politifact.

  • Fokker News

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Iran is democratic, genius

    The stupidity of that statement speaks for itself and makes addressing the rest of your drivel pointless.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Jon Bershad said:
    (see Fox News’ 24/7 attack on Jon Stewart)

    Errr… in what way does Fox News “attack” Jon Stewart 24/7? Do they make camp just outside his home? Do they go through his e-mails? Do they interview anyone who’s every been in association with him in order to find the few people who are willing to provide them negative material?

    No, they say what everyone already knows. They report that he’s a progressive and an actor in political matters – whether he’ll admit to it or not. That he refuses to admit it is what continues to drive the ‘story.’

  • kvon

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Errr… in what way does Fox News “attack” Jon Stewart 24/7? Do they make camp just outside his home? Do they go through his e-mails? Do they interview anyone who’s every been in association with him in order to find the few people who are willing to provide them negative material?

    No, they say what everyone already knows. They report that he’s a progressive and an actor in political matters – whether he’ll admit to it or not. That he refuses to admit it is what continues to drive the ’story.’

    Watch last night’s episode of Daily Show.

  • OxyCon

    Frances, there is more information about the attack at this link.

    If you take a look at the tweet of Lindsey Piscitell’s friend named MarissaBarker, you will see that the spilled wine was clearly done on purpose at MarissaBarker’s request and all the acrobatics that were taking place around Beck were actually attempts to “accidentally” kick him in the face.

    Check it out and do an update, as this is damning evidence and a major component to the story. Beck’s attackers are lying through their teeth in true liberal/passive aggressive fashion.

  • david r

    seek said:
    Not if he felt his family was threatened. Then GB is perfectly in his right to call attention to it. In this Country – we don’t act like hoodlums unless in fact we are hoodlums and know of no other way to act.

    Please don’t give bad behaviour a pass. It’s not judged by what degree YOU feel it was bad behaviour – it’s by how the people involved feel.

    That woman clearly hated Beck and she wanted him to know. Pretty juvenile I admit – but none the less threatening.

    I agree with all you say, but I think famous people can’t go into crowds like that without running into ill-mannered, unruly, drunk or mentally unstable individuals. It is just a sad fact. Railing about it does little good. We know what needs to happen. We are falling down as a nation across the board, but you don’t really change that by complaining about some loon at an outdoor movie.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Fokker News said:
    The stupidity of that statement speaks for itself and makes addressing the rest of your drivel pointless.

    Typically, when one respond to an argument several paragraphs in length with the flat statement that it is somehow ‘stupid,’ the person who makes that assertion in some way demonstrates what makes it so. Iran elects it’s government by means of democracy. That government then turns around and beats women to death when they demonstrate for political change. Yeah Democracy!

    In any case, I gather all this means you won’t cop to trowing American interests and the safety of those you profess to care about under the bus for your ill-formed opinion of what it means to be a democracy, finding your earlier assertion indefensible?

  • Paleoconservatarian

    kvon said:
    Watch last night’s episode of Daily Show.

    Why? Did Jon Stewart lie again about Fox News being a 24/7 propaganda machine (in regards to himself now)? Or did something else happen?

  • BFD

    MsUnderestimated said:
    Really? His performance on The View is proof of a lie? Ceding that, that is WEAK, but I don’t think it’s true. Also regarding Politifact: since when is it a harbinger of all things true? If you have more examples, feel free to copy/paste them here FROM Politifact.

    oh right politifact is only reliable when it is shredding leftys like stewart and maddow.

    my bad.

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    OxyCon said:
    Frances, there is more information about the attack at this link.

    If you take a look at the tweet of Lindsey Piscitell’s friend named MarissaBarker, you will see that the spilled wine was clearly done on purpose at MarissaBarker’s request and all the acrobatics that were taking place around Beck were actually attempts to “accidentally” kick him in the face.

    Check it out and do an update, as this is damning evidence and a major component to the story. Beck’s attackers are lying through their teeth in true liberal/passive aggressive fashion.

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for that update!

  • Fokker News

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Iran elects it’s government by means of democracy. T

    No they don’t dumbass. When I speak of democracy, I am speaking of western standards. Not one where the process is nothing but a show, where the Mullahs decide who can run and whether the results are honored.

  • Pablo

    Jon Bershad said:
    Beck may be leaving Fox News but his team retains that network’s love of aiming every single gun available at anyone they deem an enemy (see Fox News’ 24/7 attack on Jon Stewart).

    Unless Jon Stewart is Casey Anthony, and she’s responsible for Project Gunrunner, this is the most preposterous thing I’ve read here in some time, which is quite a feat.

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  • Pablo

    Oh, or Media Matters, who was just minding their own business until big bad Roger Ailes decided to put the wood to them.

    It’s a bitch when somebody goes after one of your sources, isn’t it?

  • Pablo

    Fokker News said:
    No they don’t dumbass. When I speak of democracy, I am speaking of western standards. Not one where the process is nothing but a show, where the Mullahs decide who can run and whether the results are honored.

    You don’t understand democracy. We don’t live in a democracy. We live in a republic. Hamas runs a democracy.

  • OxyCon

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Surely, with this proudly displayed maturity level, fellow leftists wouldn’t have shouted at Beck!!

    BFD said:
    Let’s recap….

    Was Glenn Beck ridiculed and yelled at?

    Yes. I would have done the same thing.

    Were the people behind him assholes?

    Sounds like it. Acrobats?

    Was the wine spilled accidentally or purposely to appear like an accident.

    I don’t think we’ll ever have a definitive answer.

    Is this something for a grown man to cry about?

    Not even close.

    Google this:

    MarissaBarker @dANGLINGbABY Ew, can you “accidentally” spill something on him? Or “accidentally” kick him in the mouth?

  • Dem4Ever

    There is clear evidence by all accounts that the Becks were innocent victims and that enough transpired for the perpetrators to be investigated for possible charges of assault and battery.

  • OxyCon

    Jaurez said:
    Rashomon

    And he found a new group of Americans to demonize and demagogue…the evil private jet people!

  • BFD

    OxyCon said:
    Google this:

    MarissaBarker @dANGLINGbABY Ew, can you “accidentally” spill something on him? Or “accidentally” kick him in the mouth?

    Yeah, if I’m being totally honest she probably did it on purpose. Got away with it too.

    How very passive aggressive of her. lol

    But lemme tell you something my mom used to say to me…

    “It’s no use crying over spilt wine”.

  • OxyCon

    Jaurez said:
    Obama lied his ass off on tv, again.

    this is the quote i was responding to above in case anyone is confused

  • Cecelia

    MsUnderestimated said:
    Really? His performance on The View is proof of a lie? Ceding that, that is WEAK, but I don’t think it’s true. Also regarding Politifact: since when is it a harbinger of all things true? If you have more examples, feel free to copy/paste them here FROM Politifact.

    It’s what BFD always does in lieu of logic— Beck told a lie, because Beck told a lie…

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    BFD said:
    Yeah, if I’m being totally honest she probably did it on purpose. Got away with it too.

    How very passive aggressive of her. lol

    But lemme tell you something my mom used to say to me…

    “It’s no use crying over spilt wine”.

    It’s the Weiner argument. “He’s totally innocent, he was hacked.” Until the evidence proves otherwise and then it’s, “what’s the big deal”.

  • BFD

    Cecelia said:
    Beck told a lie, because Beck told a lie…

    You don’t apologize for a truth.

    Cue teabloggers claiming he was ganged up on by the terrifying ladies of the view.

  • Cecelia

    BFD said:
    But lemme tell you something my mom used to say to me…

    “It’s no use crying over spilt wine”.

    Probably because had to settle for spilling wine on you. What she really wanted to spill on you was hot oatmeal.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Fokker News said:
    No they don’t dumbass. When I speak of democracy, I am speaking of western standards. Not one where the process is nothing but a show, where the Mullahs decide who can run and whether the results are honored.

    But it’s a ‘democracy’ nonetheless.

    That’s the point. Democracy is a process, not a governing system. We are not a large “D” Democracy, yet we use democratic processes. Iran uses democracy, but the results aren’t “western” because their history and culture of political freedom aren’t “western.” Freedom isn’t something that simply falls into place because some similar institutions are in use.

  • OxyCon

    BFD said:
    Yeah, if I’m being totally honest she probably did it on purpose. Got away with it too.

    How very passive aggressive of her. lol

    But lemme tell you something my mom used to say to me…

    “It’s no use crying over spilt wine”.

    If you watched Beck or listened to his show, the punks aren’t what really upset him. It was that his young daughter asked him to go because she wanted to watch a movie in the park with her Daddy, and then she had to be subjected to a bunch of punks who deliberately went out of their way to ruin the night for his family. If you have kids of your own, I’m sure you can empathize with how he felt about seeing his kids subjected to harassment because some loons have an irrational hatred for him.

  • Pablo

    BFD said:
    Yeah, if I’m being totally honest she probably did it on purpose. Got away with it too.

    Well, no. The internet will not forget that she’s a scrunt. Future employers will Google her and determine that she’s pretty dumb. Her nitwit friends will celebrate her bold and truthy actions, sure…

    TWO security guards. One of them yelled at me when I held up a sign that said “Fascist Douchebag” pointed to him, and took a picture. Some people are so touchy..

    It’s lucky for her that she’s good looking because her hopes of being taken seriously otherwise have been dashed by the internet and her big fat stupid mouth. She still has time to land a rich guy.

  • BFD

    Cecelia said:
    Probably because had to settle for spilling wine on you. What she really wanted to spill on you was hot oatmeal.

    now now now,,,,tsk tsk, put those claws away.

  • Pablo

    kvon said:
    Watch last night’s episode of Daily Show.

    How’s “THE REAL STORY” working out for you, kvon?

    Genius. Just fracking brilliant.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Cecelia said:
    It’s what BFD always does in lieu of logic— Beck told a lie, because Beck told a lie…

    I noticed BFD stopped trying to respond to my posts when all I did was point out his continual pattern of deflection via false narratives. For a person who holds such value for truth telling, as he claims to be when he does nothing but call out the supposed lies of others, he certainly can let loose a string of whoppers.

    BFD said:
    You don’t apologize for a truth.

    Cue teabloggers claiming he was ganged up on by the terrifying ladies of the view.

    I already pointed out your false narrative in regards to Beck’s appearance on The View. Beck was telling the truth, and Barbara Walters / Whoopie Goldberg ambushed him with false assertions. You didn’t respond then but now simply repeat the lie, ad nausium. Propagandize much?

  • purveyor

    Fokker News said:

    No they don’t dumbass. When I speak of democracy, I am speaking of western standards. Not one where the process is nothing but a show, where the Mullahs decide who can run and whether the results are honored.

    Iran is a wonderful example of how America would do things if and when Obama style Socialism takes complete hold/control.

    In fact, with various Left leaning Appellate Courts and Supreme Court, this has, de facto, been achieved. A Socialist, rubber stamp Democracy. Cripes, even Saddam was “elected”!

    PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

  • BFD

    OxyCon said:
    t was that his young daughter asked him to go

    How old was the daughter?

  • BFD

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Barbara Walters / Whoopie Goldberg ambushed him

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

    Post of the day, right there.

  • Paul G

    Pablo said:
    Well, no. The internet will not forget that she’s a scrunt. Future employers will Google her and determine that she’s pretty dumb. Her nitwit friends will celebrate her bold and truthy actions, sure…

    Well, no. She’ll ALWAYS have a job at MediaMatters. lol

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Pablo said:
    How’s “THE REAL STORY” working out for you, kvon?

    Genius. Just fracking brilliant.

    For the purposes of those who only checked the story out for a day, I’d say it worked rather well. Progressives get to put out any falsehood they want and need not defend it the next day for the more intellectually lazy within their own bubble because in the minds of many it’s already become a accepted fact.

  • purveyor

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    I already pointed out your false narrative in regards to Beck’s appearance on The View. Beck was telling the truth, and Barbara Walters / Whoopie Goldberg ambushed him with false assertions. You didn’t respond then but now simply repeat the lie, ad nausium. Propagandize much?

    PALEO,

    I am sure you have heard the term “cognitive dissonance? LOL

    From my College days and “abnormal Psych, the term implied that the individual may actually have the capacity, and actually be learning from said dissonance.

    Not necessarily here though! Perhaps “Cognitive Distortion” would be more appropriate, however, is an actual pathology. Ouch!

    Purveyor

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    Paul G said:
    Well, no. She’ll ALWAYS have a job at MediaMatters. lol

    Or Mediaite, for that matter.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BFD said:
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

    Post of the day, right there.

    And for a third time you don’t bother to defend the accuracy of your false narrative

    Your posts are beginning to appear as ‘clever’ and have as much persuasiveness as one by Garth / Sam M. et al.

    You do indeed strike me as a person who would assail someone who didn’t hold your political opinion.

  • OxyCon

    Jon Bershad said:
    Beck may be leaving Fox News but his team retains that network’s love of aiming every single gun available at anyone they deem an enemy (see Fox News’ 24/7 attack on Jon Stewart).

    Hyperbolic comments like this really demonstrate extreme ignorance and bias. Idk if you are aware of how much it reveals…especially considering that it is Jon Stewart who is the one focusing much of his air time for the past ten years attacking Fox News…and then there’s that whole MediaMatters tax status scam.

  • Paul G

    “..it will probably take the testimonies of several other witnesses coming forward to figure out what truly happened at that park…”
    Yea, like the empty city bus that has an accident, and all of a sudden the bus had 5000 ‘injured’ passengers.
    libturds protect their own.

  • BFD

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    And for a third time you don’t bother to defend the accuracy of your false narrative

    Your posts are beginning to appear as ‘clever’ and have as much persuasiveness as one by Garth / Sam M. et al.

    You do indeed strike me as a person who would assail someone who didn’t hold your political opinion.

    HAHAHAHA!!! NEWSBUSTERS!!!! YOU’RE KILLING ME!! HAHAHAHAH!!!

  • BFD

    how old was becks daughter please

  • Paul G

    Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
    Or Mediaite, for that matter.

    hehehe….yea

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    BFD said:
    HAHAHAHA!!! NEWSBUSTERS!!!! YOU’RE KILLING ME!! HAHAHAHAH!!!

    What did Newsbusters get wrong?

  • Frances Martel

    Jon Bershad said:
    I think what makes me most uncomfortable about this whole thing is that I feel like some people are using it as an excuse to talk about how much they hate “Liberal” New York without having to say why they’re really angry at the state right now. Really, I think this is less a Left/Right issue and more a unruly mob/famous person issue (I really doubt anyone yelled anything as incredibly on the nose as “We hate Conservatives here!” If you saw that dialogue in a movie, you’d think the writer was an idiot)

    This, definitely. Having lived in the People’s Republic of Cambridge, MA, I can say that New York is definitely NOT intolerant of conservatives/libertarians in any meaningful way as some other places are. On the contrary, New York is a place that prides itself on ideological diversity. We’re the home of Fox News! It’s so terrible that one bad apple (whether it was Beck or the wine-spiller, the story is very unclear) could ruin the bunch that we are.

  • OxyCon

    BFD said:
    How old was the daughter?

    I’m not familiar with his family but I know some of his kids are really young and some are college age, not that that is pretty irrelevant, especially considering the bond between father and daughter. Alot of grown men are reduced to tears when they think about their daughters.

    Now if Beck was there with a college aged son, I doubt he’d have felt emotion. Instead he or the son probably would have stood up and confronted the punks.

  • Paul G

    Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
    Or Mediaite, for that matter.

    Hey LT…did you notice it took MEDIAite 9 hrs to come out with this story, but at 12:30pm they came out with the stupid story on how Beck called ‘Georgie Girl’ a hack? Lmao

  • BFD

    OxyCon said:
    ot that that is pretty irrelevant, especially considering the bond between father and daughter.

    It is relevant when you say thing like “young daughter” and “daddy”.

    Now if it was an adult I would like to know. Does anyone know the age of the daughter?

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    Paul G said:
    Hey LT…did you notice it took MEDIAite 9 hrs to come out with this story, but at 12:30pm they came out with the stupid story on how Beck called ‘Georgie Girl’ a hack? Lmao

    Yep, that’s how they roll. They are nothing if not predictable.

  • BoomShakalaka

    BFD said:
    It is relevant when you say thing like “young daughter” and “daddy”.

    Now if it was an adult I would like to know. Does anyone know the age of the daughter?

    She’s 20,her boyfriend was there too,on top of the two personal security guys…

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BFD said:
    HAHAHAHA!!! NEWSBUSTERS!!!! YOU’RE KILLING ME!! HAHAHAHAH!!!

    The all caps is good, but your post would be even more persuasive if it you used even more exclamation points and employed two more HA’s on the bookends.

    Walters and Goldberg were inaccurate in their politically motivated ambush “interview.” That much is proved. Nevertheless, your refusal to defend your allegation against the evidence provided is, again, noted. Yet I fully expect you to post your lie again in 10 minutes.

    purveyor said:
    PALEO,

    I am sure you have heard the term “cognitive dissonance? LOL

    From my College days and “abnormal Psych, the term implied that the individual may actually have the capacity, and actually be learning from said dissonance.

    Not necessarily here though! Perhaps “Cognitive Distortion” would be more appropriate, however, is an actual pathology. Ouch!

    Purveyor

    The difference is only in determining which posters here were the paid employee of an interested party and which serves the same interest for free.

  • BFD

    BoomShakalaka said:
    She’s 20,her boyfriend was there too,on top of the two personal security guys…

    Thank you.

    I’m sure she can handle people saying “We don’t like conservatives around these here parts”.
    Free country.
    If it was a child I would feel differently.

  • Paul G

    Frances Martel said:
    This, definitely. Having lived in the People’s Republic of Cambridge, MA, I can say that New York is definitely NOT intolerant of conservatives/libertarians in any meaningful way as some other places are. On the contrary, New York is a place that prides itself on ideological diversity. We’re the home of Fox News! It’s so terrible that one bad apple (whether it was Beck or the wine-spiller, the story is very unclear) could ruin the bunch that we are.

    Hey Francis?…What’s “very unclear?. Her ‘friend’ tweets her and asks if she could pour something on him…then ‘voila’…can she kick him…all of a sudden it’s called “aerobics”….She said she was tolerent of ALL views…THEN THE TWEETS CAME OUT.
    Nothing “unclear” in my view.

  • OxyCon

    Jon Bershad said:
    I think what makes me most uncomfortable about this whole thing is that I feel like some people are using it as an excuse to talk about how much they hate “Liberal” New York without having to say why they’re really angry at the state right now.

    Thanks for re-posting this Frances…I missed it.

    Please Jon, tell us all about the people who are using this leftist’s attack on Glenn Beck to hate on NYC because……..C’mon people!………say it with me!………….They’re homophobes!

    You are growing more and more transparent by the day Jon.

  • Paul G

    Paul G said:
    Hey Francis?…What’s “very unclear?. Her ‘friend’ tweets her and asks if she could pour something on him…then ‘voila’…can she kick him…all of a sudden it’s called “aerobics”….She said she was tolerent of ALL views…THEN THE TWEETS CAME OUT.
    Nothing “unclear” in my view.

    Sorry Francis..I know it’s Frances…I just have a hard time typing anything with the word France in it. lol

  • BFD

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    That much is proved.

    No, it’s not proved.
    A Breitbart reporter saying he talked to an Amtrak rep isn’t proof.

    I will believe Beck’s apology when confronted with his lies, tyvm.

    Also, he got drunk after the View, called in sick to his TV show, produced an “memo” proving he felt ill before the View even though he didn’t appear sick, and then phoned into O’Reilly’s show slurring his words about “Nyquil”.

    That typical alcoholic crash-and-burn is all the proof I need.

  • BoomShakalaka

    BFD said:
    Thank you.

    I’m sure she can handle people saying “We don’t like conservatives around these here parts”.
    Free country.
    If it was a child I would feel differently.

    I agree,if this was a real attack story and she was a child I wouldn’t like it.
    But it’s not,it’s just Beck using an incident to do what he does best,demonize people who don’t like him and fake cry like a baby…again.Of course those elitist Devils “attacked” him and wanted to “lynch” him…of course.
    Bunch of “Brown shirts” they are huh…”Some might say we are seeing the rebirth of Hitler’s youth” right?
    Jeez I wonder why some people fu… hate him.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Frances Martel said:
    This, definitely. Having lived in the People’s Republic of Cambridge, MA, I can say that New York is definitely NOT intolerant of conservatives/libertarians in any meaningful way as some other places are. On the contrary, New York is a place that prides itself on ideological diversity. We’re the home of Fox News! It’s so terrible that one bad apple (whether it was Beck or the wine-spiller, the story is very unclear) could ruin the bunch that we are.

    Oh, give us a break. Was it a preemptive commentary on gay marriage when the character Homer Simpson declared his loathing of New York a decade ago, too?

    On another topic, it’s amazing how the benefit of the doubt goes here not to the guy with the radio and television show – a person who regularly get fact checked as is found to be ‘dishonest’ only when he misspeaks because of his penchant to speak in hyperbolic terms – but to the random person who was proved a bad liar within 24 hours – someone incapable of concealing her clear motivation directly opposite to her narrative. Simply amazing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    BoomShakalaka said:
    I agree,if this was a real attack story and she was a child I wouldn’t like it.But it’s not,it’s just Beck using an incident to do what he does best,demonize people who don’t like him and fake cry like a baby…again.Of course those elitist Devils “attacked” him and wanted to “lynch” him…of course.Bunch of “Brown shirts” they are huh…”Some might say we are seeing the rebirth of Hitler’s youth” right?Jeez I wonder why some people fu… hate him.

    C’mon people. Evidence is there in your face. Beck did nothing. Why can’t he go to a show and expect that he and his family be left alone. Why do you libs make excuses for this behavior.

    BFD – Sometimes your ideas are well thought out but sometimes you need to get out of your own ideological way. It’s the man’s family for god sakes he has a good reason to be upset. There is no reason for people to act like this in public.

    i will admit when I first read this story I thought that perhaps Beck was being over sensitive. but just read the tweats. It’s all right there. They were behaving like bullies. i have seen this type of behavior with the troubled youth I work with. The “Accidental” hit when playing basketball or another sport.

    Your smarter then this BFD. Not so sure about you Boomshakalaka.

  • Paul G

    BoomShakalaka said:
    She’s 20,her boyfriend was there too,on top of the two personal security guys…

    Hey Boommoronalaka….You ready to roll? You said this afternoon you would take me down (or something like that) LMFAO….Libturd Moron. You ask anyone here….I go toe to toe with ANY SANE libturd….you’re just a troll.. But I will call you a Moron since the ‘shoe’ fits

  • BoomShakalaka

    Paul G said:
    Hey Boommoronalaka….You ready to roll? You said this afternoon you would take me down (or something like that) LMFAO….Libturd Moron. You ask anyone here….I go toe to toe with ANY SANE libturd….you’re just a troll.. But I will call you a Moron since the ’shoe’ fits

    All I see here is a twit not worth an answer who somehow doesn’t get deleted or reported even if all he does is insult people and call them morons.
    I guess you’re friends with the moderator or something cause you can say whatever the f… you want.
    Good for you….you’re still a no argument moron who talks like a 12 years old on sugar and never talks about the issue at hands cause you got sh…
    Go back to sleep son……”libturd”…what a lame lil twit you are really.

  • BFD

    Eric Larson said:
    There is no reason for people to act like this in public.

    And there is no reason for Glen to act like he does.
    Disagree, yes. But all he does is demonize.
    If anyone deserves to be derided at a public gathering it is Glenn Beck.

    Look, I’m not saying is is admirable to heckle Beck in public, but I am saying it is understandable.
    I’m trying to be honest.
    I admitted it was most likely a passive-aggressive drive-by wine spilling.
    And I also admitted I would give him the finger myself.

    I’m not here to always be right. This is the internet.
    I’m here to call em as I see em.

    Some people wont even believe an apology form Beck when they see it with their own eyes.
    That’s partisan insanity imho.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BFD said:
    No, it’s not proved.
    A Breitbart reporter saying he talked to an Amtrak rep isn’t proof.

    Reports are evidently not to be trusted, in your world. Not when a leftists’ honesty has been questioned. Benefit of the doubt goes to the entertainer!

    I will believe Beck’s apology when confronted with his lies, tyvm.

    Beck has need to apologize? For what?

    Also, he got drunk after the View, called in sick to his TV show, produced an “memo” proving he felt ill before the View even though he didn’t appear sick, and then phoned into O’Reilly’s show slurring his words about “Nyquil”.

    This is all ‘proved’ somewhere, I presume. Officially alleged, even, by reportage? You know, besides in your post and the posts of other leftist bloggers? After all, you hold SUCH regard for things that are truthful and despise lies. Or so you appear to claim, what with your constant accusations of untruthfulness. And presumably these things you say can be supported somehow…?

    That typical alcoholic crash-and-burn is all the proof I need.

    When an argument is reduced to nothing but unsupported character level attacks, you know you’ve lost.

    The hate held for Beck is mainly the product of one motivation – to silence. He demonstrates the profound lack of integrity found in the tactics of the typical progressive. He lays bare their motivations, and their dissonance between that and that which they profess. And to bring this to mass attention makes Beck anathema to them. So anything goes in the effort to diminish and destroy him. Wine thrown at his wife by a progressive with a grudge is the least of Beck’s problems.

  • BFD

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    …..

    He was also drunk when he slurred and shouted “HEY! HISPANIC CHICK LADY!” on his radio show.

    Yet he has you silly baggers believing in his long time sobriety.

    You people are truly Becksuckers.

  • BoomShakalaka

    Eric Larson said:
    C’mon people. Evidence is there in your face. Beck did nothing. Why can’t he go to a show and expect that he and his family be left alone. Why do you libs make excuses for this behavior.

    BFD – Sometimes your ideas are well thought out but sometimes you need to get out of your own ideological way. It’s the man’s family for god sakes he has a good reason to be upset. There is no reason for people to act like this in public.

    i will admit when I first read this story I thought that perhaps Beck was being over sensitive. but just read the tweats. It’s all right there. They were behaving like bullies. i have seen this type of behavior with the troubled youth I work with. The “Accidental” hit when playing basketball or another sport.

    Your smarter then this BFD. Not so sure about you Boomshakalaka.

    Dude…..it was some talking and a wine spill.
    Security was there with him and nothing happened.
    How is that a “lynching” story?No Bs there huh?
    I agree they were not polite but don’t tell me it was a big deal…
    And if Beck can insult people all day from a studio and call them all the names he can think of because they don’t agree with him,and call for revolution and shooting people in the head(look it up),how is it that people can’t tell him they hate him?Free speech for Beck only?
    Can’t have it both ways dude,Beck knows that too man.
    Like I said,if this was anything serious I would feel different but it’s not.
    There was no attack,no lynching.
    Free country.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BoomShakalaka said:
    I agree,if this was a real attack story and she was a child I wouldn’t like it.
    But it’s not,it’s just Beck using an incident to do what he does best,demonize people who don’t like him and fake cry like a baby…again.Of course those elitist Devils “attacked” him and wanted to “lynch” him…of course.
    Bunch of “Brown shirts” they are huh…”Some might say we are seeing the rebirth of Hitler’s youth” right?
    Jeez I wonder why some people fu… hate him.

    He didn’t “demonize” Lindsey Piscitell, he talked about the ignorance, disrespect and incivility shown him by a crowd of people. Instead, Lindsey Piscitell outed herself in an attempt to put a negative spin in opposition to his telling – and showed herself a politically motivated, and terrible, liar who conspired with friends to attack Beck’s person – or at least his wife. Remember, also, that Piscitell was but one person in the crowd and the only one to have so far had a hand in part of the story. With her acting in such a way, you can be sure others of similar mind took her tact. That is the essence of crowd psychology.

    Similarly, “demonizing people” is what he does best? Hardly. He provides videotape of people making insupportable comments (at least to the majority of the American people) and, in illustrating their backgrounds and support networks of those people, provides a context as a frame of reference by which their pronouncement can be understood. When most other shows try to deprive context in search of a gotcha, Beck goes after their core philosophy.

    And in your mind, this is only further reasoning by which your hatred of him grows. The irony is stunning!

  • purveyor

    Frances Martel said:

    This, definitely. Having lived in the People’s Republic of Cambridge, MA, I can say that New York is definitely NOT intolerant of conservatives/libertarians in any meaningful way as some other places are. On the contrary, New York is a place that prides itself on ideological diversity. We’re the home of Fox News! It’s so terrible that one bad apple (whether it was Beck or the wine-spiller, the story is very unclear) could ruin the bunch that we are.

    Thank you for your input.

    I admit to being surprised. The cultural and racial variety in New York City, is, perhaps, the essence of diversity. I am reminded of “Crocodile Dundee’s arrival and being impressed that it “must be a friendly place.”

    Sadly, Politically and Philosophically, our Nation is torn in half. This web-site demonstrates such everyday. Honestly, I admit to being just as inflexible as others.

    Anyway, Thank you again

    Purveyor

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BFD said:
    He was also drunk when he slurred and shouted “HEY! HISPANIC CHICK LADY!” on his radio show.

    Yet he has you silly baggers believing in his long time sobriety.

    You people are truly Becksuckers.

    Yet another deflection with yet another character attack.

    Never mind defending the one you just made, or the ones you made before that.

  • seek

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Reports are evidently not to be trusted, in your world. Not when a leftists’ honesty has been questioned. Benefit of the doubt goes to the entertainer!

    Beck has need to apologize? For what?

    This is all ‘proved’ somewhere, I presume. Officially alleged, even, by reportage? You know, besides in your post and the posts of other leftist bloggers? After all, you hold SUCH regard for things that are truthful and despise lies. Or so you appear to claim, what with your constant accusations of untruthfulness. And presumably these things you say can be supported somehow…?

    When an argument is reduced to nothing but unsupported character level attacks, you know you’ve lost.

    The hate held for Beck is mainly the product of one motivation – to silence. He demonstrates the profound lack of integrity found in the tactics of the typical progressive. He lays bare their motivations, and their dissonance between that and that which they profess. And to bring this to mass attention makes Beck anathema to them. So anything goes in the effort to diminish and destroy him. Wine thrown at his wife by a progressive with a grudge is the least of Beck’s problems.

    very well stated. Sad but true – I wonder if in the dead of night it dawns on some of the haters that their behaviour is neither normal nor something that should be emulated by anyone else.

  • BFD

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Yet another deflection with yet another character attack.

    Never mind defending the one you just made, or the ones you made before that.

    I’m pretty sure he beats his wife too but I didn’t want to bring that up.

  • BFD

    seek said:
    He lays bare their motivations, and their dissonance between that and that which they profess.

    Too bad he can’t do all that without Nazi Tourette’s.

  • BFD

    BFD said:
    ….

    Oops..meant to attribute above quote to Paleoconservatarian.

    Apologies.

  • BoomShakalaka

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    He didn’t “demonize” Lindsey Piscitell, he talked about the ignorance, disrespect and incivility shown him by a crowd of people. Instead, Lindsey Piscitell outed herself in an attempt to put a negative spin in opposition to his telling – and showed herself a politically motivated, and terrible, liar who conspired with friends to attack Beck’s person – or at least his wife. Remember, also, that Piscitell was but one person in the crowd and the only one to have so far had a hand in part of the story. With her acting in such a way, you can be sure others of similar mind took her tact. That is the essence of crowd psychology.

    Similarly, “demonizing people” is what he does best? Hardly. He provides videotape of people making insupportable comments (at least to the majority of the American people) and, in illustrating their backgrounds and support networks of those people, provides a context as a frame of reference by which their pronouncement can be understood. When most other shows try to deprive context in search of a gotcha, Beck goes after their core philosophy.

    And in your mind, this is only further reasoning by which your hatred of him grows. The irony is stunning!

    Nice spin…except there was no attack,no mob lynching,just a girl who hates him and spilled wine on his blanket or his wife,then apologized,gave them napkins and laughed about it.
    Not even enough for his security to get involved.Two of them were there man,gimme a break.
    BS
    But anyway,if you think Beck is a truth teller then we’re gonna have to agree to disagree dude,cause I’m of the opinion that he’s a batshit crazy,hating MF and I really think you’re delusional if you think he’s telling any kind of truth whatsoever.
    I must be a “Brownshirt” and you might have to “shoot me in the head” then huh?Oh well….

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  • Paul G

    BoomShakalaka said:
    All I see here is a twit not worth an answer who somehow doesn’t get deleted or reported even if all he does is insult people and call them morons.
    I guess you’re friends with the moderator or something cause you can say whatever the f… you want.
    Good for you….you’re still a no argument moron who talks like a 12 years old on sugar and never talks about the issue at hands cause you got sh…
    Go back to sleep son……”libturd”…what a lame lil twit you are really.

    Hmmmm…IF?! ..You keep the same name for more than a week here you Moron, you’ll see that as you show your self as the Moron you are….no one here will comment back. …And then you lose that “penny a post”.
    How’s the GH working out for u 2nite? …Slow?…WOW! You must be ugly too. HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • BoomShakalaka

    Paul G said:
    Hmmmm…IF?! ..You keep the same name for more than a week here you Moron, you’ll see that as you show your self as the Moron you are….no one here will comment back. …And then you lose that “penny a post”.
    How’s the GH working out for u 2nite? …Slow?…WOW! You must be ugly too. HAHAHAHAHAHA

    …….wtf are you talking about now you twit?
    Nothing….again.
    I’m shocked.
    GH….really?
    wow.

  • Paul G

    BoomShakalaka said:
    …….wtf are you talking about now you twit?
    Nothing….again.
    I’m shocked.
    GH….really?
    wow.

    Yea…gh……You cubicle diaper wearing penny a posts Morons make me sick! You libturd (or ‘I’m living in my parents basement’) “Penny a post” Wouldn’t know who Beck is if you ‘stumbled’ in to him…
    You morons just post to post.

  • Paul G

    BoomShakalaka said:
    …….wtf are you talking about now you twit?
    Nothing….again.
    I’m shocked.
    GH….really?
    wow.

    BTW…Twit? Really? I haven’t heard that in 40 yrs….I was 10….Ohhhhhh…..Now I get it…You got a phonebook to put on the chair, and you got on your mommys computer…..

  • Jaurez

    BFC’ser said:
    how old was becks daughter please

    Why, you gonna send her weiner pics? Loser.

  • BoomShakalaka

    Paul G said:
    BTW…Twit? Really? I haven’t heard that in 40 yrs….I was 10….Ohhhhhh…..Now I get it…You got a phonebook to put on the chair, and you got on your mommys computer…..

    Lolll…..
    You are one vindictive litlle turd that just won’t let go huh?
    Is it because you make a “penny for a post” or are you just a complete moron?
    Hahaha…whatever….bye bye turd…..hahahahahaha….wow….what a tool.

  • Jaurez

    BFC’ser said:
    You people are truly Becksuckers.

    sez the hard core olbyloon…

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  • Paul G

    BoomShakalaka said:
    Lolll…..
    You are one vindictive litlle turd that just won’t let go huh?
    Is it because you make a “penny for a post” or are you just a complete moron?
    Hahaha…whatever….bye bye turd…..hahahahahaha….wow….what a tool.

    Not vindictive…You were the one that said u’d take me down…….I give ur name 1 more hr here. Or you’ll retreat like you libturd morons here normally do….

  • Paul G

    Paul G said:
    Not vindictive…You were the one that said u’d take me down…….I give ur name 1 more hr here. Or you’ll retreat like you libturd morons here normally do….

    Fu*K….now I just made you another penny…..Moron.

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    The telling aspect in all of this comes from this woman posing as an innocent, yet she was revealed on Twitter as completely the opposite. She used invective in announcing she was seated behind Glenn. Hell, she even solicited ideas from her followers on what she should do, with one suggestion being exactly what transpired. They want to claim innocense and side with the truth, yet she and her follower both removed the postings once they were exposed. She even dismisses it as less than a cup of wine while another witness in her crowd Tweeted about dumping a bottle. Theirs is the story that is unraveling.

    Is this a major story? Hell no. But it is revealing that those claiming tolerance all the time are the ones expressing intolerance towards a man’s family for having differing views.

  • justanotherconservative

    MartiniShark said:
    But it is revealing that those claiming tolerance all the time are the ones expressing intolerance towards a man’s family for having differing views.

    that’s the MO of the left. demonize all those that you can.

  • Rio

    Glenn Beck mentioned his daughter one day on his program, she was born with cerebral palsy, here’s the part of a quote where he explains it and went on to compare her gnarled hand to a poster of someone:

    ” ……Beck said, “and I want you to know that I have a daughter who was born with cerebral palsy. And when she was born, they said she would never walk or talk or feed herself. She went to college, they were wrong. This poster bothers me so much because the hand of the person shown in this poster reminds me of my daughter’s hand.”

    My cousin was also born with cp and had to face cruelty and stupid questions throughout her life, so our family has been sensitive to what happens to her and protective of her. Even though Beck’s daughter is 20 and in college, it wouldn’t make any difference to me even though no one in the crowd made reference to her hand, the protective nature and emotions kick in and I think that contributed to Beck’s emotional reaction. It was this daughter that asked to go to that park, I understand why he would want to give it a try for her and, the behavior of members in that crowd should not be excused.

  • Pablo

    Frances Martel said:
    It’s so terrible that one bad apple (whether it was Beck or the wine-spiller, the story is very unclear) could ruin the bunch that we are.

    Oh, yeah. It’s a real headscratcher. It’s almost as if we don’t have her nasty real-time twitter and blog posts to look at. Without those, we might never figure this one out.

  • Pablo

    BFD said:

    A Breitbart reporter saying he talked to an Amtrak rep isn’t proof.

    IT’S ONLY NEWS WHEN KATIE COURIC DOES IT!!!!

    What a dope. When Amtrak goes on the record, that’s the facts, period.

  • Pablo

    MartiniShark said:
    The telling aspect in all of this comes from this woman posing as an innocent, yet she was revealed on Twitter as completely the opposite.

    New York, New York…

    There must be something in the water. Get out while you still can, Glenn!

  • Pablo

    BFD said:
    Thank you.

    I’m sure she can handle people saying “We don’t like conservatives around these here parts”.
    Free country.
    If it was a child I would feel differently.

    So, when you realize that his little kids (who are like 5 and 3 or so) were there, you’ll feel differently? Well, it’s time for you to start feeling differently.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    BFD said:
    And there is no reason for Glen to act like he does.Disagree, yes. But all he does is demonize.If anyone deserves to be derided at a public gathering it is Glenn Beck. Look, I’m not saying is is admirable to heckle Beck in public, but I am saying it is understandable.I’m trying to be honest.I admitted it was most likely a passive-aggressive drive-by wine spilling.And I also admitted I would give him the finger myself. I’m not here to always be right. This is the internet.I’m here to call em as I see em. Some people wont even believe an apology form Beck when they see it with their own eyes.That’s partisan insanity imho.

    But here is the thing. Olby, Rachel, Lawrence, and the like are always demonizing also. Hell conservatives and or the tea party are always called raciest and are told to be looked out for for crazy behavior.

    YET they are never bothered by anyone out in the public. They are left alone. If I saw them out in public I would say nothing to them. I would let them be. I really don’t like Keith O as a person. It has nothing to do with his views, which I don’t agree with, but with his awful behavior towards those he does not agree with or does not like. But I would never yell things or ask friend “what should I do to him” I would let him be.

    Again it seems to be that many libs find it OK to act rude and mob like. Go to peoples homes they don’t agree with and protest in their lawns, yell speakers down at college speaking events, act like the people with the opposing view is less than human. Don’t get me wrong, I know that there some on the right that do this but nothing compared to the left.

    The left likes to say that it is the right that acts out with violence but it is almost always the left.

    And no matter what your views, the behavior by the woman at the park was wrong and then to try and play the poor victem who was doing nothing to glenn and then to find out what a lier she was. there just is no defending her.

  • skyfet

    That’s why you should listen to both sides of the story. And from Beck’s history of making things up out of thin air, I’d side with the witness. By the way, someone recently questioned me about my claim that Beck’s cry on the verge of phoniness.

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    This is a microcosm of the over riding hypocrisy behind the whole “Tolerant” lecture constantly offered up by the left. Their message is one of acceptance and overlooking the differences of others to join together as a community, despite the wide range of opinions. This episode reveals the opposite holds true. Why can’t Beck bring his family to a park to watch a film in public without being heckled and confronted? The Bryant park film series typifies a community coming together, but here we get signs that overlooking differences is a little beyond some.

    Literal signs, by the way. Ms. Picatell Tweeted that she was taking pictures of Beck’s group while holding a sign that read COMMUNIST DOUCHEBAG. I wonder where that fits into her account of Beck being responsible for the “less relaxed atmosphere than is typically experienced” at the movies in the park.

    One phrase from Ms Picatel’s column states, “We live our lives intolerant only of those who don’t tolerate.” Since she gets to decide who, or what opinions, constitute intolerance she therefore justifies her intolerant actions. Coming together as a community no longer is the goal, because she has declared an individual as being unworthy of her tolerant nature by decree. One Twitter exchange illustrates perfectly the mindset of herself, and her acolytes. One of her followers wrote:

    – Why has he not been chased onto the Staten Island ferry by a screaming mob with torches and pitchforks?

    And Ms. Picatell’s benevolent response?

    – We tried as best we could tonight.

    I get such a warm and fuzzy feeling from those who want to improve our society by showing their tolerance in the fashion of forcing one side of the spectrum to be tolerant, and justifying their own hostilities in process.

  • Paul G

    skyfet said:
    That’s why you should listen to both sides of the story. And from Beck’s history of making things up out of thin air, I’d side with the witness. By the way, someone recently questioned me about my claim that Beck’s cry on the verge of phoniness.

    “…..And from Beck’s history of making things up out of thin air”
    What? How? That this Country/society is going down the drain? He was PROVEN right. Don’t be a Kool-Aid drinker skyfet.

  • seek

    Isn’t it odd, but I never doubted Beck’s version from the first second. I can just picture a bunch of young people, drinking and getting courage to act out from both the bottle and their fellow like minded fools.

    It really isn’t that hard to imagine. We’ve all witnessed bad behaviour where people, even if they disapprove do not have the courage to stand up to the bully.

    Sorry Glen – I do apologize that your family had to experience the ugly that you are very familiar with but I’m sure you’ve tried to shelter them as best you could.

  • Skippy

    seek said:
    Isn’t it odd, but I never doubted Beck’s version from the first second. I can just picture a bunch of young people, drinking and getting courage to act out from both the bottle and their fellow like minded fools.

    It really isn’t that hard to imagine. We’ve all witnessed bad behaviour where people, even if they disapprove do not have the courage to stand up to the bully.

    Sorry Glen – I do apologize that your family had to experience the ugly that you are very familiar with but I’m sure you’ve tried to shelter them as best you could.

    So, you believe the Baboon has regular talks with dog back and forth.

    You have to join the Baboon in his trip to save Israel and the whole human race. Call now!

  • Pablo

    Skippy said:
    So, you believe the Baboon has regular talks with dog back and forth.

    You have to join the Baboon in his trip to save Israel and the whole human race. Call now!

    What does this even mean? Is there any point in there whatsoever? You need to see this.

  • Skippy

    Pablo said:
    What does this even mean? Is there any point in there whatsoever? You need to see this.

    Pebbles, you idiot.

    The Baboon, he who you love to defend, said he is on a mission from God, to save Israel, to save mankind.

    The Baboon is envisioning himself as the… no, out of respect, I won’t say it.

    You got that?

  • Pablo

    Skippy said:
    You got that?

    Thankfully, no.

  • Skippy

    Pablo said:
    Thankfully, no.

    Pebbles, you moron.

    If you don’t join the Baboon on his trip to Israel, it is going to be the Baboon and like 6 other guys.

    I demand you join the bare herd. On the trip to Israel.

    Call NOW!

  • Paul G

    Skippy said:
    Pebbles, you idiot.

    The Baboon, he who you love to defend, said he is on a mission from God, to save Israel, to save mankind.

    The Baboon is envisioning himself as the… no, out of respect, I won’t say it.

    You got that?

    Are you putting vodka in your Kool-aid? You were talking like an idiot last night..but now ….
    I guess peanut butter and vodka don’t mix.

  • Jaurez

    Paul G said:
    Are you putting vodka in your Kool-aid? You were talking like an idiot last night..but now ….
    I guess peanut butter and vodka don’t mix.

    He’s snorting his effexor…*sigh*

  • Jaurez

    Peanut said:
    So, you believe the Baboon has regular talks with dog back and forth.

    You have to join the Baboon in his trip to save Israel and the whole human race. Call now!

    no, that’s olbermahn that talks to dogs, remember, cakes?

  • timcajun

    Pablo says:
    Thankfully, no.
    ……………………………..
    If not hate and lies, it doesn’t tally!

  • seek

    Skippy said:
    So, you believe the Baboon has regular talks with dog back and forth.

    You have to join the Baboon in his trip to save Israel and the whole human race. Call now!

    You could attempt to grow up. You think anyone reads your crap when you start with baboon?
    Your behaviour is vile and stupid. So, obviously you are also, since you sanction it.

  • Pablo

    seek said:
    Your behaviour is vile and stupid.

    Yup. Also juvenile, like between six and nine.

  • mlb

    Frances Martel said:
    This, definitely. Having lived in the People’s Republic of Cambridge, MA, I can say that New York is definitely NOT intolerant of conservatives/libertarians in any meaningful way as some other places are. On the contrary, New York is a place that prides itself on ideological diversity. We’re the home of Fox News! It’s so terrible that one bad apple (whether it was Beck or the wine-spiller, the story is very unclear) could ruin the bunch that we are.

    That’s cute one “bad apple” – unfortunately the one Big Apple, Bloomberg does ruin it for your ‘bunch’. I agree you guys are SO prideful of your “ideological diversity” that you you are willing to establish a brand new mosque near Ground Zero, before rebuilding a 100 year old historic Greek-Orthodox church. … still trying to figure out that one out.

    I haven’t followed this story at all except here on Mediaite, but Beck has a propensity to exaggerate and this woman obviously had issue with the truth. I call a draw.
    I am from California, so am very used to having a million snide unprovoked comments directed to our way, most of which wish we would crack off and fall into the ocean.

  • Pablo

    mlb, if you’re at all interested in this story, this is must read.

  • mlb

    Pablo said:
    mlb, if you’re at all interested in this story, this is must read.

    Clicked to the link…thanks! – that definitely adds a WHOLE new perspective to the story…

    While Beck may have felt the need for tears, I would suggest that he needn’t have shed them over these immature 20 somethings. So… this is the youth demographic supporting Obama? yikes! Nomads, who you and I will no doubt support through our hard earned tax dollars so they can continue on with their poetry, artistic dreams and cartwheels.

    I am reminded that Pelosi was very clear that the universal healthcare was designed so people like Lindsey could pursue their goals of acting, writing, and their “virtual” lives could go on, wholly supported by the liberal agenda of rewarding their do-nothingness. This poor group of liberal youth trying intentionally to grab their 15 minutes of fame, so sad.

  • Pablo

    mlb said:
    While Beck may have felt the need for tears, I would suggest that he needn’t have shed them over these immature 20 somethings.

    True. But he’s kind of a spaz.

  • 500K4Sarah2Speak

    Good grief… there is no “mystery”, and Glenn is yet again LYING about the fact that he was NOT harassed or persecuted in Bryant Park.

    Maybe some folks at Mediaite should do some foot work before running off to post utter horse-puckey masquerading as “analysis”.

    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/06/sara_romanoski_glenn_beck.php

    The only think Beck was a victim of was an innocent slip.

    Of course, that wont stop him or his Moonie followers (let alone those in the media who bait them) from revamping this into some BS persecution complex, and warping it (as all of you are doing here) into yet another reason to accuse others of the very bigotry and hatred that you all envelope yourselves in with such gusto.

    Its the exact same revelry in victimization (by people who never experienced it no less) that Jon Stewart pointed out as so painfully prevalent on the right.

    Glenn an his brainwashed followers just WANT to appear persecuted since it endows their master with the messianic facade they try so hard to fix onto him.

    What a load of crap!

    “Mystery”… jeez, over spilled wine on a blanket.

    Get over yourselves.

  • valkyrie101

    I’m really wondering whether Glenn even had the best interests of his children at heart when he went to Bryant Park, at night, with a crowd of mostly left wing NYers sipping wine. What does he expect? There is always going to be some people out on the pole acting like nuts when one of the most polarizing media figures in the world walks in. Even celebrities who do not get multiple death threats, like Glenn, know that, and they avoid such crowds. Obviously. Was Glenn just naive, or was he picking a fight because, frankly, he has run out of material.

  • valkyrie101

    If you heard Glenn in his radio days running the zoo in Tampa, you would know that planning a stunt like this is not out of the question for Glenn. At least the old Glenn. Is Glenn really a changed man?

  • seek

    500K4Sarah2Speak said:
    Good grief… there is no “mystery”, and Glenn is yet again LYING about the fact that he was NOT harassed or persecuted in Bryant Park.

    Maybe some folks at Mediaite should do some foot work before running off to post utter horse-puckey masquerading as “analysis”.

    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/06/sara_romanoski_glenn_beck.php

    The only think Beck was a victim of was an innocent slip.

    Of course, that wont stop him or his Moonie followers (let alone those in the media who bait them) from revamping this into some BS persecution complex, and warping it (as all of you are doing here) into yet another reason to accuse others of the very bigotry and hatred that you all envelope yourselves in with such gusto.

    Its the exact same revelry in victimization (by people who never experienced it no less) that Jon Stewart pointed out as so painfully prevalent on the right.

    Glenn an his brainwashed followers just WANT to appear persecuted since it endows their master with the messianic facade they try so hard to fix onto him.

    What a load of crap!

    “Mystery”… jeez, over spilled wine on a blanket.

    Get over yourselves.

    You obviously didn’t follow the story and the innocent “tweets” that stupid woman sent. Not so innocent – very much planned.

    You have to get out more and perhaps open your eyes and quit with the party nonsense. It makes you look rather foolish and short sighted (nicely put).

  • seek

    valkyrie101 said:
    I’m really wondering whether Glenn even had the best interests of his children at heart when he went to Bryant Park, at night, with a crowd of mostly left wing NYers sipping wine. What does he expect? There is always going to be some people out on the pole acting like nuts when one of the most polarizing media figures in the world walks in. Even celebrities who do not get multiple death threats, like Glenn, know that, and they avoid such crowds. Obviously. Was Glenn just naive, or was he picking a fight because, frankly, he has run out of material.

    Sometimes your post indicates that you are a very closed minded bigoted individual with a hate chip a mile wide riding on your shoulder. Other times you seem to put a bit of thought into your posts. I much prefer the latter.
    Are you perhaps a Siamese twin?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victoria-Sallese/703324932 Victoria Sallese

    I DON’T CARE ABOUT BECK OR WHOEVER SPILLED THE WINE. SO SHUT UP!!! NOBODY ELSE CARES, EITHER.

  • valkyrie101

    seek said:
    Sometimes your post indicates that you are a very closed minded bigoted individual with a hate chip a mile wide riding on your shoulder. Other times you seem to put a bit of thought into your posts. I much prefer the latter.Are you perhaps a Siamese twin?

    I try to cover both sides. You like that, right, fair and balanced?

  • Pablo

    valkyrie101 said:
    I’m really wondering whether Glenn even had the best interests of his children at heart when he went to Bryant Park, at night, with a crowd of mostly left wing NYers sipping wine. What does he expect? There is always going to be some people out on the pole acting like nuts when one of the most polarizing media figures in the world walks in. Even celebrities who do not get multiple death threats, like Glenn, know that, and they avoid such crowds. Obviously. Was Glenn just naive, or was he picking a fight because, frankly, he has run out of material.

    It wasn’t at night.

    valkyrie101 said:
    I’m really wondering whether Glenn even had the best interests of his children at heart when he went to Bryant Park, at night, with a crowd of mostly left wing NYers sipping wine. What does he expect? There is always going to be some people out on the pole acting like nuts when one of the most polarizing media figures in the world walks in. Even celebrities who do not get multiple death threats, like Glenn, know that, and they avoid such crowds. Obviously. Was Glenn just naive, or was he picking a fight because, frankly, he has run out of material.

    He shouldn’t have been wearing so short a dress.

  • TeaPartyNation

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    P.S. Don’t want to go to lunatic-left hell? Then stop acting like imbeciles, throw out all the TAX-AND-SPEND mentally defective d-cRAT socialists and instead elect responsible, conservative, Tea Party-backed American patriots -OR – move to a responsible, successful American state like the millions of other fed-up people who want a sane, pleasant, low-tax, high-growth, job-creating place to live and raise their children have done.

    Remember, “Escape from New York” isn’t just a movie – it’s a real life fact. So, let me welcome all the real Americans who have finally had their fill of d-cRAT socialist extremism and move to a state that respects America and American values.

    P.S. For those who leave NY for a better state and get “homesicK” there is a solution. Every now and then a circus will come to your nice town and provide you with all the sites, sounds and smells associated with the Big Apple (but without the muggings and molesting). And the best part is that after a week or so, THEY ALL GO AWAY !

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    It wasn’t at night. He shouldn’t have been wearing so short a dress.

    Thanks. Seems like it might have been hard to see the movie, though.

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    He shouldn’t have been wearing so short a dress.

    It was the polkadots.

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    It wasn’t at night.

    And why do they call Bryant Park Movie Night?

  • david r

    Pablo said:
    mlb, if you’re at all interested in this story, this is must read.

    This guy really nails what happened. It was just as I thought. These people are a disgrace to the intellectual freedom that true liberals fought for in NYC back in the forties and fifties. Check out the documentary “New York in the Fifties.” (Basically, the premise is that the 60′s hit NYC in the 50′s.) The Left has been replaced with the Rabble. And I don’t care how much money they have or what fine institutions of higher learning they have attending. These people (and their apologists) are an out of control mob.

  • Pablo

    valkyrie101 said:
    And why do they call Bryant Park Movie Night?

    8 PM in NYC is broad daylight these days.

  • seek

    valkyrie101 said:
    I’m really wondering whether Glenn even had the best interests of his children at heart when he went to Bryant Park, at night, with a crowd of mostly left wing NYers sipping wine. What does he expect? There is always going to be some people out on the pole acting like nuts when one of the most polarizing media figures in the world walks in. Even celebrities who do not get multiple death threats, like Glenn, know that, and they avoid such crowds. Obviously. Was Glenn just naive, or was he picking a fight because, frankly, he has run out of material.

    I agree Valk – I think he should lock them in the house and never let them out. Only lefty’s are allowed out and they can wreak whatever havoc they want. Doncha know????

  • notimportant

    Victoria Sallese said:
    I DON’T CARE ABOUT BECK OR WHOEVER SPILLED THE WINE. SO SHUT UP!!! NOBODY ELSE CARES, EITHER.

    mmmkay. Step away from the bong.

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    8 PM in NYC is broad daylight these days.

    So Glenn wasn’t expecting to stay for the movie, in the dark, with all those angry liberals he rails about? Because usually out door movies are shown at night.

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    8 PM in NYC is broad daylight these days.

    When does night start?

  • Pablo

    valkyrie101 said:
    When does night start?

    When it gets dark.

  • Paul G

    Here’s Coulters new column…..It’s great as usual…
    http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2011/06/29/glenn_beck_vs_the_mob/page/full/

  • Worp

    Paul G said:
    Here’s Coulters new column…..It’s great as usual…http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2011/06/29/glenn_beck_vs_the_mob/page/full/

    I’m in the middle her new book Demonic. It’s a great read and right on the mark.

  • Worp

    valkyrie101 said:
    I’m really wondering whether Glenn even had the best interests of his children at heart when he went to Bryant Park, at night, with a crowd of mostly left wing NYers sipping wine. What does he expect? There is always going to be some people out on the pole acting like nuts when one of the most polarizing media figures in the world walks in. Even celebrities who do not get multiple death threats, like Glenn, know that, and they avoid such crowds. Obviously. Was Glenn just naive, or was he picking a fight because, frankly, he has run out of material.

    You’re the type who would blame a rape victim for wearing makeup. There a lot of sick posts on this site buy yours takes the cake. And dragging his kids into it is the icing on your hate cake.

  • valkyrie101

    seek said:
    I agree Valk – I think he should lock them in the house and never let them out. Only lefty’s are allowed out and they can wreak whatever havoc they want. Doncha know????

    Does not sound like a reasonable way of dealing with the reality of multiple death threats to me.

  • valkyrie101

    Worp said:
    You’re the type who would blame a rape victim for wearing makeup. There a lot of sick posts on this site buy yours takes the cake. And dragging his kids into it is the icing on your hate cake.

    Get real. Glenn is no fool.

  • valkyrie101

    Worp said:
    You’re the type who would blame a rape victim for wearing makeup. There a lot of sick posts on this site buy yours takes the cake. And dragging his kids into it is the icing on your hate cake.

    And how in the world did I drag his kids into it? That is what this story is about. Did you read it?

  • Worp

    I’m in the middle of Ann Coulters Demonic and she has some great analysis on the mob. This is what they do. The mob mind set holds contradictions like tweating about hating Beck then attacking him then blaming him. The only true thing she said was that’s how New Yorkers are. Even the mafia has a rule about no wife and kids. I have seen the enemy, they are legion.

  • jakester

    Worp said:
    You’re the type who would blame a rape victim for wearing makeup. There a lot of sick posts on this site buy yours takes the cake. And dragging his kids into it is the icing on your hate cake.

    We are talking about wine spilled on a blanket not rape. But leave it to a barely literate Beck head to act like they are the same. Oh wow Beck has a wine stain on his blanket, boo hoo.

  • jakester

    Worp said:
    I’m in the middle of Ann Coulters Demonic and she has some great analysis on the mob. This is what they do. The mob mind set holds contradictions like tweating about hating Beck then attacking him then blaming him. The only true thing she said was that’s how New Yorkers are. Even the mafia has a rule about no wife and kids. I have seen the enemy, they are legion.

    Demonic, you mean how once again in Ann’s book, she demonizes millions of people? Anyone who takes that rubbish or even the more insipid rubbish Beck puts out is about the last people I would go to for any insight. BTW, one or two people tweeting don’t make a mob, but since you are a typical con living in a little Beck world, that fact is too much to handle.

  • jakester

    Nice to see Beck and all the petty little cons here making a mountain out of a molehill AGAIN. Nothing changes. Yes, you are such sweet people who are always being attacked by the evil liberal mob because they hate you for your goodness and decency.

    Do you ever get enough of the same old paranoia and self pity?

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    jakester said:
    Nice to see Beck and all the petty little cons here making a mountain out of a molehill AGAIN. Nothing changes.

    I know, Right? Like when they run headlines for days about Sarah Palin’s account of Paul Revere, or that she has a flag painted on her bus.

    Oh, wait . . .

  • Mia Kulper

    jakester said:
    We are talking about wine spilled on a blanket not rape. But leave it to a barely literate Beck head to act like they are the same. Oh wow Beck has a wine stain on his blanket, boo hoo.

    No, it wasn’t just wine spilled on a blanket.

    We are talking about wine spilled on an AMERICAN FLAG BLANKET.

    An American Flag blanket that Glen Beck threw on the ground!

    And then stepped on!

    NOT 20 MILES FROM GROUND ZERO!!!11!!

    I certainly hope Glen promptly burned that flag blanket and then waterboarded himself in atonement.

  • jakester

    MartiniShark said:
    I know, Right? Like when they run headlines for days about Sarah Palin’s account of Paul Revere, or that she has a flag painted on her bus.

    Oh, wait . . .

    I simply laughed at her mixed up, childishly funny recounting of Revere’s ride, I didn’t accuse her and her pals of some insidious plot against me or the country.

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    I see you two are also choosing to excuse away this crank of a woman taunting them with a COMMUNIST DOUCHEBAG sign. Just Glenn making crap up about hostile people around his family.

  • Kevin McCarthy

    How is it that Glenn Beck gets away with some busllhit story that demonizes an entire city and MediAte gives him any credibility at all…BTW whatever happened happened to Donald Trumps team of investigators??

  • X-3

    No “mystery” here, Glenn Beck told us the truth of the matter.

  • Mia Kulper

    Why did Glen forget to mention that the girl who spilled the wine apologized to them?

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    What makes you so sure that she had? Her article? It has been revealed that most of her account of that day was a lie, so why would her claim of apologizing be considered accurate?

  • Mia Kulper

    It has been revealed? Revealed by whom?

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    Uh, by herelf.

    She had a number of Twitter messages that day which contradicted her innocent account. She was vulgar in announcing Glenn’s arrival, she and another follower mentioned trying to chase Glenn off, and she acknowledged taking photos of his group while she was holding a sigh reading COMMUNIST DOUCHEBAG. That hardly squares with her insisting Glenn’s prickly security team ruined their tranquil evening.

  • Mia Kulper

    Do you have a link or something?

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark
  • Mia Kulper

    Mia Kulper said:
    Why did Glen forget to mention that the girl who spilled the wine apologized to them?

    MartiniShark said:
    What makes you so sure that she had? Her article? It has been revealed that most of her account of that day was a lie,…

    Mia Kulper said:
    Do you have a link or something?

    MartiniShark said:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/woman-seated-near-beck-at-movie-claims-innocence-but-what-does-twitter-tell-us/

    OK, but I don’t see anything that says she didn’t apologize. Why didn’t Glenn mention that she apologized?

    And what’s this part about spilling wine on Glenn’s flag blanket? I thought they threw wine on Mrs. Glenn?

    Do you mean to tell me that all of Glenn’s weeping and crying on the air was over a blanket??

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    They did spill wine on his wife – Piscatell said that it occurred in her article. She said it was an accident, but happy that it happened.

    I did not say she never apologized, I said that you cannot take this woman on her word that she apologized because of how much of her account of that day has been shown to be falsified.

  • Mia Kulper

    .

    MartiniShark said:
    I did not say she never apologized,

    OK, but what I was asking is why Glenn Beck never mentioned that they apologized for the spilled wine. Perhaps it would have undermined all his weeping and sobbing.

    MartiniShark said:
    I said that you cannot take this woman on her word that she apologized because of how much of her account of that day has been shown to be falsified.

    How much was “falsified,” really?

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    That Beck would exaggerate what happened in the park or even lie completely about what went down during that movie should not be a big surprise. Although his gullible followers can’t get it through their heads about their hero, the fact is that Glenn Beck lies about things, including, more revealing, his own story.

    This has nothing to do with his politics except most of his deceptions, whether they derive from conscious lying or ignorant wishful thinking, serve to prop up his reactionary vision where there is no homelessness or hunger in America because religious people will just take care of them spontaneously and voluntarily. Riiiiiight. Sure they will, just like they did before Progressives started solving problems ~100 years ago. Beck is welcome to make his case for a 19th Century political economy, but he is deceiving his listeners to make that case. That has been extensively documented.

    As far as this incident goes, perhaps Beck was harassed as claimed, perhaps the two, separate witnesses are lying. Safe money is on Beck lying to help promote his rally in August and to garner sympathy from his reactionary, anti-liberal listeners. These people, his adoring followers, provide a great case study in how people will believe what they want to believe no matter what the facts are. He is dangerous because he is extremely convincing in his many deceptions, but also because Glenn Beck has become a cult of personality. His minions are vicious and, of course, deceitful when addressing his online critics. They just cannot fathom that Beck lies or demonstrates hypocrisy, over and over. That should tell you something.

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