Keep up the great work, Chris!!! You must be doin something right. Don’t worry, I’m confident you will come around on the Global Warming hoax.

Matthews On Chris Christie’s Sinking Polls: ‘Loudmouths Are Not Popular With Women’

So ,from Matthews to Schultz on MSNBC primetime , womenfolk shun them all . Wise .

Chris Christie is still personally popular in the polls so it is not his loud mouth people find objectionable it is his policies.

Nor apparently with VIEWERS either, Matthews!
LMAO!!
LMAO!

That it is true Chris Mathews, unless the women are mean and loudmouths themselves and pray to false gods.

Don’t put your money on it, Chris- we like a man who will stand up to bullies like YOU!

Matthews must have very few women viewers then.

Like Randy Newman says ” They call women the Fair Sex . … Fair about what ? ”

Randy said that . Just sayin’.

Someone who’s such a misogynist shouldn’t pretend he’s an expert about females…maybe about sexually harrassing them. The creep actually had the nerve to blame Weiner’s wife for his problems. Dude is a scumbag.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910210020

http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/27/why-does-msnbc-tolerate-chris-matthewss-misogyny/

http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2011/06/chris-matthews-is-misogynist.html

‘Loudmouths Are Not Popular With Women’

I think we’ve got to give Chris expert status on this question.

Pablo said:
I think we’ve got to give Chris expert status on this question.

Damn, beat me to it again. . .

Here’s another: ‘Loudmouths Are Not Popular With Women.’ Maybe it’s just guys named Chris. Oh well, that one sucks.

Chris was dying to quote the ever ingenious Bill Maher and call Christie Fat Fatty. As Tingles becomes more and more irrelevant, I see a sort of bizzaro world permeating chris and his show. It seems the deeper the obama presidency sinks, the more the opposite of whatever tingles says starts to make perfect sense. He thinks Christie’s sinking, I see him as a president in about 8 years. He loves John Stewart, stewart proves what a lying pos he is. He sees a bunch of limp losers in the presidential race on the republican side, Romney polls ahead of bam bam. Hmm, interesting, veddddy interesting. Maybe I’m onto something here. Stay tuned. Oh, and if loudmouths aren’t popular with women, either are guys that get tingles up their leg over other guys. Just sayin.

Denny Flojak said:
He thinks Christie’s sinking

I’m pretty sure Christie doesn’t float.

Thats like a fishmonger commenting on the way perfume should smell… Mathews should stick to commenting on Obama and the Dems.. Oh wait

Matthews doesn’t learn easily. He used to bash Bachmann regularly and now that she is showing some strength and status as a serious contender for the nomination, he is craw-fishing and tossing compliments her way, presumably hoping that she will come back on his crummy show and boost his ratings. Someday, possibly for 2016, Christie will announce his candidacy for the Republican nomination and he just might have a long memory and not choose to show up on Matthew’s show.

Matthews’ point is a good one.

That sort of brashness doesn’t play well in all regions of the country (thank goodness..)

Matthews On Chris Christie’s Sinking Polls: ‘Loudmouths Are Not Popular With Women’

You should know Chris, you should know

A sampling of Matthews’ sexism past and present:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/09/has-chris-matthews-lost-his-mind/

It’s also going to get negative on republican governors because they have to make deep cuts to balance budgets and get out of the red, the left wing press and aclu lawsuits continously hammering republican governors and kisssing the arse of dem. gov’s doesn’t help either. Let’s see the polls next fall, those are the only ones that count, Good job with the dnc talking points msnbc and msm, you’re earning your pay.

BFD said:
I’m pretty sure Christie doesn’t float.

Sorry BFD, fat guys float best, unfortunately speaking from experience.

Cecelia said:
Matthews’ point is a good one. That sort of brashness doesn’t play well in all regions of the country (thank goodness..)

Chris doesn’t let people push him arouind. I for one think it’s refreshing.

snapping ‘ its non of your business’ to voter questions regarding school funding is a non-starter. He has reached his depth.

How about the new poll numbers on obama? Ih just four days his approval down to 45%approve of him , how about that chris, did you talk about that today? So he hurriedly schedules a address to the nation, pleaseee, we’re on to him, he has no clue on how to run this country, and chris your a joke, how your poll numbers there ? When msnbc starts to tell the truth about this president instead of covering up for him then maybe people will start to watch.

Headline: ‘Loudmouths Are Not Popular With Women’

I think Tingles is talking about himself!

This explains my failure with the opposite sex, I always thought they liked being screamed at . I guess being raised by two fathers explains my lack of knowledge on this subject.

I figured women didn’t like him cause he is incredibly fat.

Christie > Obama

You know what females don’t like? Lies. Like the following:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/21/obama-health-care-law-medicaid-middle-class_n_881412.html

BFD said:
I’m pretty sure Christie doesn’t float.

Are you kidding? I’ll get you couild take him down the river with a tugboat. Maybe Letterman can tell us. Will it float ?

WCinWI said:
Christie > Obama

You know what females don’t like? Lies. Like the following:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/21/obama-health-care-law-medicaid-middle-class_n_881412.html

Best thing about this? The new term freebaggers. :)

Woman hate you Chris… got it.

I would vote for Christie for one reason. Poor William Howard Taft has had to be the most overweight president in history for far to long. He needs a successor .

insideguy said:
I figured women didn’t like him cause he is incredibly fat.

I don’t know!
Tingles is a little chubby and looks soft and not
in the best condition. But I am not sure I would say fat.
I think his audience (women AND men) is tiny because he comes on like a loud mouth
know it all jerk night after night!

insideguy said:
I would vote for Christie for one reason. Poor William Howard Taft has had to be the most overweight president in history for far to long. He needs a successor .

Please take your rudeness off of this thread. Seriously. Beyond rude.

You might as well go beat up a child because that’s how crazy you sound. You probably were a bully as a child. So sad.

Maybe Just my opinion but I think it may be that mathews slobbers on them. Then again he could be a babe magnet who knows lol

insideguy said:
I would vote for Christie for one reason. Poor William Howard Taft has had to be the most overweight president in history for far to long. He needs a successor .

I would vote for him because we would be getting two presidents for the price of one.

Oh please WCinWI the guy is fat and not just fat extremely fat get a sense of humor. Why is that being rude? Im skinny if someone calls me skinny I don’t get all annoyed about it. Sheesh and they say liberals have no sense of humor, explains why there are no funny conservatives.

HeHe good one BFD then no need to pay for a vice president:)

WCinWI said:
Please take your rudeness off of this thread. Seriously. Beyond rude.

So tell us how much you weigh crapper.

Or he could have Wiener as his vp then it would be like Abbot and Costello:)

WCinWI said:
how crazy you sound

Crazy like the tebloggers who call Obama “jug-ears” and Michelle “fat-ass” and “fugly”?

insideguy said:
:

He was on Piers Morgan expressing his struggles. So then you support Palin because she’s fit and runs every day. Good to know.

BFD said:
Crazy like the tebloggers who call Obama “jug-ears” and Michelle “fat-ass” and “fugly”?

Have I called him or her those things? I don’t like what Michelle wears all the time. That’s called being a catty female. And Obama does have big ears. Who cares? Seriously. Get over it.

Well I would also like to see what sports he would play as a president. Obama plays basket ball and golf. Bush played gold and cut a lot of brush on his ranch. Would Christie have like pie eating or hot dog eating contests?

BFD said:
Crazy like the tebloggers who call Obama “jug-ears” and Michelle “fat-ass” and “fugly”?

The new in word for liberals is freebaggers. Get it right. Huff Po tells us how it is. :)

Hey I don’t support Palin but she does look good!

It’s comments like these that proves in recent surveys MSNBC’s audience are not the brightest people gracing our planet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKQHQIOtCuQ

insideguy said:
Well I would also like to see what sports he would play as a president. Obama plays basket ball and golf. Bush played gold and cut a lot of brush on his ranch. Would Christie have like pie eating or hot dog eating contests?

You are liberal trash. That is all. Put on a zombie costume like a liberal because that’s your worth.

WCinWI said:
Have I called him or her those things?

No, but I haven’t heard you call those who do crazy and childish..

It isn’t the name-calling that bothers you it is WHO is being called names.

Just sayin.

insideguy said:
Hey I don’t support Palin but she does look good!

She would never get with someone rude like you. Thank goodness. Maybe your type is Christie. You mock those you like.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Chris doesn’t let people push him arouind.

I don’t think it’s anything he actively stops from happening. I should think blubber is very hard to push.

Sigh ok WCinWI ill go put on my hemp zombie costume and smoke dope and go to my NOW rally.

Headline should have read

Matthews On Chris Christie’s Sinking Polls: ‘Loudmouths Are Not Popular With Women. Believe me, I’m batting zero!’ LOL

BFD said:
No, but I haven’t heard you call those who do crazy and childish..

It isn’t the name-calling that bothers you it is WHO is being called names.

Just sayin.

Yes – However, I’ve called out those on this site many times that are conservative. I just go after more liberals because more liberals are crazy.

insideguy said:
Sigh ok WCinWI ill go put on my hemp zombie costume and smoke dope and go to my NOW rally.

Perhaps you didn’t hear about the zombie students in Madison that protested outside of a Special Olympics event. You sound just like them. Own it.

insideguy said:
Sigh ok WCinWI ill go put on my hemp zombie costume and smoke dope and go to my NOW rally.

Now don’t talk to me again on here. BFD is crazy and has had my name in his crosshairs but at least he’ll occasionally have a point. Not a very good one, but he’s like Schultz. Randomly he’ll go after a Weiner.

WCinWI said:
insideguy said:
Well I would also like to see what sports he would play as a president. Obama plays basket ball and golf. Bush played gold and cut a lot of brush on his ranch. Would Christie have like pie eating or hot dog eating contests?
You are liberal trash. That is all. Put on a zombie costume like a liberal because that’s your worth.

I suppose little kids could jump up and down on his soft squishy stomach, like one of those blow up castle things.

are you calling me homosexual WCinWI? I would hope you don’t make fun of gays like that cause that would be rude.

insideguy said:
are you calling me homosexual WCinWI? I would hope you don’t make fun of gays like that cause that would be rude.

Why would calling someone gay because they mock someone be rude? Calling someone gay for being or sounding like they are in love with someone that is their same sex is not a rude thing to do.

Now heed my advice and stop talking to me. You add nothing to debate.

WCinWI said:
However, I’ve called out those on this site many times that are conservative.

You only call out conservatives when they cross the line, like threats of violence or perhaps divulging personal information. Maybe perverted sexual innuendos too.

But you only call out the liberals for the common schoolyard taunts, never the conservatives.
Stop pretending you’re fair in this regard.
It’s ok.
I do the same thing.
We all do.
Just wanna see how self-aware and honest you are.

Hmmm I wonder if zombies would be offended by your remarks about them. See I always felt that college kids weren’t zombies, but maybe just maybe the tea party people who know nothing about how our govt works or how to actually pay down the debt and seem to think that Obama is going to take their guns away are Zombies. Most of them have on foot in the grave already anyway.

Hmmm but seems like you are using the gay thing as an insult WCinCI which would be insulting if I was insulted by it which im not:)

Obama’s approval rating has plummeted this month, according to Gallup. But leave it to MSNBC to ignore this story, and focus on Chris Christie.

Once again, you can tell which stories are important by the insistence with which MSNBC ignores them.

And your comment about liberals being more crazy? When the last time a liberal shot and killed someone they disagreed with? Please look up the killing of Doctor Tiller.

insideguy said:
And your comment about liberals being more crazy? When the last time a liberal shot and killed someone they disagreed with? Please look up the killing of Doctor Tiller.

When’s the last time a Conservative bit off the finger of a political opponent?

No comment. This one’s too easy.

Well Obamas rating is down felixw and if msnbc isn’t covering it like a sports score im sure your guys on fox will:) Just like fox covered your boy Bushs ratings every month when they plummeted to the lowest of any modern president ever.

insideguy said:
And your comment about liberals being more crazy? When the last time a liberal shot and killed someone they disagreed with? Please look up the killing of Doctor Tiller.

The gabby gifford shooting left serveral dead. He was a lib.

felixw said:
Obama’s approval rating has plummeted this month, according to Gallup. But leave it to MSNBC to ignore this story, and focus on Chris Christie.

Once again, you can tell which stories are important by the insistence with which MSNBC ignores them.

Obama’s number’s have declined to where he was before the Osama bump.This is common.
Christie’s numbers are a record low for him.

One is old news and one is new news.
See that difference?

I didn’t think so.

ouch I don’t know Liberal Tormentor Ill have to look that up. As long as you look up the right wingnut who just had shootout with the Montana police and has been on the run for the last 10 days. Im sure fox has been all over that story.

Tell ya what id lose my finger over my life anyway how bout you?

Gabbys Giffords shooter was a liberal? Oh my god he was just found unfit to stand trial due to mental incompetence. And you guys got all upset when the left tried to shoehorn him now you are trying the same thing, what a joke. The guy who killed Tiller was found competent and guilty. He even gave a statement as to why he did what he did.

Just like Timothy Mcveigh was a lib huh Liberal tormentor?

insideguy said:
Hmmm I wonder if zombies would be offended by your remarks about them. See I always felt that college kids weren’t zombies, but maybe just maybe the tea party people who know nothing about how our govt works or how to actually pay down the debt and seem to think that Obama is going to take their guns away are Zombies. Most of them have on foot in the grave already anyway.

They dressed up like zombies. Do you need photographic evidence? It exists.

While everyone’s watching these nightly carnival barkers, Holder is using the AG office to IMPOSE their Socialist Agenda:

- Sue Boeing
- Sue Arizona
- Sue Walmart
Let Black Panthers Off the hook
Don’t Enforce Immigration

…and the AG is just one of the agencies this BANANA-REPUBLIC STYLE ADMINISTRATION uses to assert social control through government.

2012 – Send a message to the Indoctrinated, Lesser-Evolved Left: You can’t beat Mother Nature!
LOL!

2012 – END THE OBAMA-SOCIALIST DEPRESSION!

BFD said:
You only call out conservatives when they cross the line, like threats of violence or perhaps divulging personal information. Maybe perverted sexual innuendos too.

But you only call out the liberals for the common schoolyard taunts, never the conservatives.
Stop pretending you’re fair in this regard.
It’s ok.
I do the same thing.
We all do.
Just wanna see how self-aware and honest you are.

You would have a point if:

A) You didn’t mock people yourself
B) You didn’t tell me that I have multiple personalities
C) You called out liberals commenting on the threads.

See how that dual relationship of hypocrisy works? :)

felixw said:
Obama’s approval rating has plummeted this month, according to Gallup. But leave it to MSNBC to ignore this story, and focus on Chris Christie.

Once again, you can tell which stories are important by the insistence with which MSNBC ignores them.

I noticed that. MSNBC practices a lot of deflection and distraction. Never mind the wars and economy–look, look over there, it’s those craaaazy Republicans! I doubt that m.o. will work if the economy continues to sink. They sh*t the bed when they shilled for Obomber and I think they know it.

insideguy said:
And your comment about liberals being more crazy? When the last time a liberal shot and killed someone they disagreed with? Please look up the killing of Doctor Tiller.

There are far too many murderers that were liberal.

Oh cool they dressed up like Zombies? Thats awesome that the tea party folks don’t even have to put on makeup or outfits to look like zombies:)

insideguy said:
And your comment about liberals being more crazy? When the last time a liberal shot and killed someone they disagreed with? Please look up the killing of Doctor Tiller.

Please see the Discovery Channel hostage situation. The guy wanted to kill as many people as possible, but was (thankfully) stopped before he could do any damage. However, it was an environmental whacko, inspired (his word) by Al Gore.

How does that work for you?

WCinWI said:
You would have a point if:

A) You didn’t mock people yourself
B) You didn’t tell me that I have multiple personalities
C) You called out liberals commenting on the threads.

See how that dual relationship of hypocrisy works? :)

Ummm…I just confessed that I do do all that.

You’re weird.

Please stop talking to me.

I said do do.

Works for me Imnotblue how many people did he kill? All that tells me is that the conservative nutjobs are better at killing than the liberal nutjobs.

insideguy said:
Oh cool they dressed up like Zombies? Thats awesome that the tea party folks don’t even have to put on makeup or outfits to look like zombies:)

You’re such a child. I hope you enjoy your non-convos with people because I’m one of the more chatty folks here.

Hey Lib Torm. – You can’t talk sense into libs. You just can’t. You tell them that people that represent them dressed up as literal zombies and they go “oh well”……can’t make this stuff up. Thank goodness my parents taught me to be a Conservative young.

Heres and interesting point for you righties:) Do you think the taliban and Osama bin laden represents the far left of the muslim faith or the far right? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

insideguy said:
Works for me Imnotblue how many people did he kill? All that tells me is that the conservative nutjobs are better at killing than the liberal nutjobs.

He didn’t kill anyone. The SWAT team was able to stop him before he hurt anyone. Of course, HE wound up with a bullet, but that was (thankfully) the only casualty.

And that’s all that this story tells you? Not that there are loons on both the left and right, and you probably shouldn’t use the murder of Dr. Tiller by an unstable man as some sort of example of right-wing hate? Perhaps you should recognize that if you’re going to blame someone for inspiring the murder of Tiller, you have to equally blame Al Gore for the Discovery situation?

Perhaps this should be an indication that you should think before you type.

Honestly WCinWi I mess with you just to get a reaction your not much fun to debate:) Like the good-looking girl in a bar who just got off the beauty pageant stage all style no substance.

insideguy said:
Heres and interesting point for you righties:) Do you think the taliban and Osama bin laden represents the far left of the muslim faith or the far right? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Have you ever noticed that WC talks the most to the people she doesn’t want to talk to?

He wasn’t unstable ImNotBlue he was found fit for trial and confessed and told the judge and jury what he did and why he did it. Look up the transcripts, and it was obvious right wing hate it doesn’t get any clearer.

insideguy said:
Honestly WCinWi I mess with you just to get a reaction your not much fun to debate:)

So basically you see your role here as a troll. Someone who just makes things difficult for other people, and that’s what entertains you?

Is this something you’re proud of?

insideguy said:
He wasn’t unstable ImNotBlue he was found fit for trial and confessed and told the judge and jury what he did and why he did it. Look up the transcripts, and it was obvious right wing hate it doesn’t get any clearer.

Anyone who believes that they’ll solve social problems by murdering someone else is unstable. He may be competent enough to stand trial (and I hope he is), but that doesn’t make him “stable.”

As for the hate… then you’ll openly admit that it was left-wing environmental extremist hate that cause the Discovery guy?

Nope I sit and wait for a conservative who can have an interesting debate ImNotBlue and WC aint one of them.

BFD said:
Have you ever noticed that WC talks the most to the people she doesn’t want to talk to?

Yes, She had two smartass comments that she left for roxsteady deleted by Lizzie a week or two ago. None of roxsteadys comments were deleted I might add.

If Crapper starts pulling that crap with me, I will be blunt with her regarding her trollish nature.

insideguy said:
Nope I sit and wait for a conservative who can have an interesting debate ImNotBlue and WC aint one of them.

Have you found any? And if not, at what point do you consider that the issue is YOU, and not everyone else?

He was competent IMnot and he was found guilty and sentenced to life.

ImNotBlue said:
Please see the Discovery Channel hostage situation. The guy wanted to kill as many people as possible, but was (thankfully) stopped before he could do any damage. However, it was an environmental whacko, inspired (his word) by Al Gore.

How does that work for you?

Don’t forget the guy that shot his TV because Bristol was on it. Thankfully he didn’t murder anyone but he was crazy nonetheless. And the AZ shooting. Let’s not even talk about urban deaths as I’m sure the majority of those people aren’t Conservative (I’m assuming, I know but oh well).

Found this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2471880/posts

insideguy said:
Honestly WCinWi I mess with you just to get a reaction your not much fun to debate:) Like the good-looking girl in a bar who just got off the beauty pageant stage all style no substance.

You can’t spell so thanks for the compliment.

insideguy said:
Nope I sit and wait for a conservative who can have an interesting debate ImNotBlue and WC aint one of them.

And just to clarify… you’re waiting to find someone “serious” to debate. And while you’re waiting for them, you’ll behave like a troll, and attempt to annoy everyone. But suddenly, when you find someone who meets your standards, you’ll change personality, and expect them to take you seriously?

Have you really thought this plan out?

Ill look up the case on the discovery guy ImNot cant comment on it right now but if he was a lefty loon then so be it. Ill bet ya for every murdering far left loon I can find ya 10 murdering far right loons:)

Noo Imnot see WC get offended if you sneeze at her. How can you have a debate with someone who says stop tailing to me I don’t like you anymore overtime you bring up a point that pisses her off? Thats why I chase her off so I don’t have to deal with it. She’s probably telling on me right now for something she was offended at. My guess is she is a regular at the EEOC office where she works.

BFD said:
Have you ever noticed that WC talks the most to the people she doesn’t want to talk to?

Now that you mention it ….

seeeee nananana you cant spell are you making fun of my spelling WC? Boy that would be rude im telling on you

insideguy said:
Ill look up the case on the discovery guy ImNot cant comment on it right now but if he was a lefty loon then so be it. Ill bet ya for every murdering far left loon I can find ya 10 murdering far right loons:)

So you’re unfamiliar with the Discovery case, but you could name 10 far-right cases?

Hmm… what does that say about you? Just a little ideologically… um… focused, perhaps?

Fokker News said:
If Crapper starts pulling that crap with me, I will be blunt with her regarding her trollish nature.

lol…She tried it on me once and I had to teach her how the internet works.

WCinWI said:
You’re such a child. I hope you enjoy your non-convos with people because I’m one of the more chatty folks here. Hey Lib Torm. – You can’t talk sense into libs. You just can’t. You tell them that people that represent them dressed up as literal zombies and they go “oh well”……can’t make this stuff up. Thank goodness my parents taught me to be a Conservative young.

As my bumper stickers say:

Confuse a liberal, use logic and facts

and

Raised Republican, I can take care of myself, thanks@

I am unfamiliar with it ImnotBlue just like you seemed to be unfamiliar that the killer of tiller was found fit to stand trial and was found guilty. However I wlll look it up. While Im at it why don’t you look up the 5 militia members in Alaska this year who plotted to kill police officers and judges but were arrested by the FBI before they could?

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Chris doesn’t let people push him arouind. I for one think it’s refreshing.

Well, I think it’s possible to have boundaries without being rude.

insideguy, there are nuts on both side, but there are WAY more violent thugs on the left. That’s just fact.

Cecelia said:
Well, I think it’s possible to have boundaries without being rude.

With some people, it takes being rude to get through. Usually, those people are liberals.

Yea liberal tormentor hope your right wing farm buddies can take care of them selves after the govt pulls 16 billion dollars in subsidies away from them. Oh im sorry thats good welfare check that.

How is that a fact Liberal T? Where are you getting these facts from? Once again I ask you do you think the taliban and Osama Bin Laden represent a far right or far left form of thinking?

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
With some people, it takes being rude to get through. Usually, those people are liberals.

Well, didn’t see any evidence that the woman asking the question deserved the response she got.

She merely asked the mirror image of what conservatives asked Pres. Clinton about Chelsea.

insideguy said:
Yea liberal tormentor hope your right wing farm buddies can take care of them selves after the govt pulls 16 billion dollars in subsidies away from them. Oh im sorry thats good welfare check that.

So now you are claiming that conservatives love welfare more than liberals? Man you are delusional!

insideguy, I’ll tell you what, talk to me when a Repulican launches his political career in the home of a terrorist.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
As my bumper stickers say: Confuse a liberal, use logic and facts and Raised Republican, I can take care of myself, thanks@

You have those bumper sticker on your car? In Utah? That’s like driving around Madrid with a “Franco ’36″ bumper sticker.

insideguy said:
How is that a fact Liberal T? Where are you getting these facts from? Once again I ask you do you think the taliban and Osama Bin Laden represent a far right or far left form of thinking?

I think the hard-left– Stalin, Pol Pot, etc were more tyrannical, ruthless, genocidal.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
So now you are claiming that conservatives love welfare more than liberals? Man you are delusional!

Since ethanol subsidies and oil depletion allowances are welfare, yes, that would be true.

Nope Liberal im claiming they both love welfare whether it be food stamps or corporate welfare,both are welfare.

Cecelia said:
Well, didn’t see any evidence that the woman asking the question deserved the response she got. She merely asked the mirror image of what conservatives asked Pres. Clinton about Chelsea.

People call him Hitler, can you really blame him for getting a little irritated? Let’s agree to disagree here.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
You have those bumper sticker on your car? In Utah? That’s like driving around Madrid with a “Franco ‘36″ bumper sticker.

Yeah in Utah, I get alot of laughs and the occassional angry lib. I LOVE when I go visit the folks in Seatle. I get the finger alot. You know it’s funny, there used to be a ton of Obama stickers on cars, but there seem to be less and less all the time.

Cecelia said:
I think the hard-left– Stalin, Pol Pot, etc were more tyrannical, ruthless, genocidal.

No trick. No nastiness. You think Stalin and Pol Pot were left? Do you think Franco and Hitler were right? Aren’t they really similar. Is the right to left line really a circle in which the extremists seem to have some juncture? Is Stalin really all that different from Hitler? Is Trotsky all that different than Mussolini? No right or wrong answer. Just a thought.

Sooo Cecella you think Osama bin Laden and the taliban are leftist? LOL now thats an interesting point. They must be the only far left wing religious fundamentalist group in history lol. What a joke

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
People call him Hitler, can you really blame him for getting a little irritated? Let’s agree to disagree here.

Yes, I do blame him.

That doesn’t give him license to behave rudely to ANY critic who asks him a question.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
You know it’s funny, there used to be a ton of Obama stickers on cars, but there seem to be less and less all the time.

Tyhat’s rally surprising about the bumper stickers. You’d think the more time that passes since an election would mean more bumper stickers.

insideguy said:
Sooo Cecella you think Osama bin Laden and the taliban are leftist? LOL now thats an interesting point. They must be the only far left wing religious fundamentalist group in history lol. What a joke

Actually, I think you need glasses.

insideguy said:
I am unfamiliar with it ImnotBlue just like you seemed to be unfamiliar that the killer of tiller was found fit to stand trial and was found guilty. However I wlll look it up. While Im at it why don’t you look up the 5 militia members in Alaska this year who plotted to kill police officers and judges but were arrested by the FBI before they could?

Again, I didn’t say that Tiller’s murderer wasn’t fit to stand trial. I said he was unstable… as in someone who knows the difference between right and wrong, but still chooses to do the wrong thing. He deserves prison (or the death penalty), and I’m happy to see him go.

And why are you so familiar with the Alaska situation, but never heard of the Discover situation? Again… you appear to be awfully ideologically driven. If it helps “your side” you know it… if not, somehow it misses you. That tells me you’re someone who gets your “news” from an ideologically pure source, where they filter information into “helps us” and “hurts us,” spiking the stories that don’t fit the narrative.

And that’s a problem.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
insideguy, there are nuts on both side, but there are WAY more violent thugs on the left. That’s just fact.

I don’t believe that either. There are loons on both sides, and neither can be conclusively called “more violent.” And even if they could, what’s the point? Unless we can show a clear corrolation between ideological thought and violence, it’s more coincidence than actual influence.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
I LOVE when I go visit the folks in Seatle. I get the finger alot.

I imagine you get the finger a great deal in WalMart, the PTA and even church.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Tyhat’s rally surprising about the bumper stickers. You’d think the more time that passes since an election would mean more bumper stickers.

Can you translate that, Royal Spelling and Grammar Czar?

As I’ve said before, I only have two (2) bumper stickers on my Subaru: “Imagine Whirled Peas” and “Free Tibet”.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I imagine you get the finger a great deal in WalMart, the PTA and even church.

In fact, most people find me delightful. Clearly not those like yourself, but I can live with that.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
As I’ve said before, I only have two (2) bumper stickers on my Subaru: “Imagine Whirled Peas” and “Free Tibet”.

I hate that you drive a Suburu too! Look, something we can bond over! I love my little RU!

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Can you translate that, Royal Spelling and Grammar Czar?

Know knot rally butt te Bordeaux were schmaschin.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
In fact, most people find me delightful. Clearly not those like yourself, but I can live with that.

I’m glad you have your fantasies.

Ahh so I just read your response again Cecelia but you brought up communist but didn’t answer my question lets talk are the taliban and Osama bin Laden right wing or left? You guys cant even say it im amazed.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
No trick. No nastiness. You think Stalin and Pol Pot were left? Do you think Franco and Hitler were right? Aren’t they really similar. Is the right to left line really a circle in which the extremists seem to have some juncture? Is Stalin really all that different from Hitler? Is Trotsky all that different than Mussolini? No right or wrong answer. Just a thought.

Well, not to burst some relativistic bubble from you, our resident pathological liar…. but we could start with an over 20 million death count by Stalin, move on to China… and then maybe calculate the among of sheer human tragedy behind the Iron Curtain.

Cecelia said:
Well, not to burst some relativistic bubble from you, our resident pathological liar…. but we could start with an over 20 million death count by Stalin, move on to China… and then maybe calculate the among of sheer human tragedy behind the Iron Curtain.

I was speaking more of ideology, but never mind. You’re right. Hitler, Mussolini and Franco, great guys, one and all.

See heres the great part Real Royal the conservatives will claim that the NAZIS and Communist were far left. And somehow they are going to claim that the taliban and Osama are far left you just watch.

insideguy said:
Ahh so I just read your response again Cecelia but you brought up communist but didn’t answer my question lets talk are the taliban and Osama bin Laden right wing or left? You guys cant even say it im amazed.

Well, of course your implication is that theocracies are essentially right-wing, simply because there is the element of religion. However, that’s simplistic.

insideguy said:
Ahh so I just read your response again Cecelia but you brought up communist but didn’t answer my question lets talk are the taliban and Osama bin Laden right wing or left? You guys cant even say it im amazed.

That’s because it’s a pretty stupid question.

The Taliban is neither left nor right… at least not as far as we categorize things in America. To suggest any similarity between the left and the right and the Taliban shows immaturity and faulty thinking on the part of the person asking the claim.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I was speaking more of ideology, but never mind. You’re right. Hitler, Mussolini and Franco, great guys, one and all.

Well, of course, I never said that, but what would that matter to you.

insideguy said:
See heres the great part Real Royal the conservatives will claim that the NAZIS and Communist were far left. And somehow they are going to claim that the taliban and Osama are far left you just watch.

No doubt, but then I’ve never found much value in an ideology that worships a glorious past not so glorious and all of whose heroes, long of fond memory, were of the opposite ideology.

No Cecelia that would be as simplistic as stating the Stalin was far left simply because he believed in govt control of the economy .

Cecelia said:
Well, of course, I never said that, but what would that matter to you.

What you say can be wholly subjective, Whopper. It’s actually one of your more endearing qualities.

insideguy said:
See heres the great part Real Royal the conservatives will claim that the NAZIS and Communist were far left. And somehow they are going to claim that the taliban and Osama are far left you just watch.

So it’s this particular formulation or nothing, huh?

If you’ll excuse, I am going to spend the rest of the evening with a glass of Port and Jean Simmons.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
No doubt, but then I’ve never found much value in an ideology that worships a glorious past not so glorious and all of whose heroes, long of fond memory, were of the opposite ideology.

What the heck are you talking about now?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
What you say can be wholly subjective, Whopper. It’s actually one of your more endearing qualities.

Even as you call me a liar for telling the truth.

You’re sick.

ImNotBlue said:
What the heck are you talking about now?

He never talks. He games.

Cecelia said:
Even as you call me a liar for telling the truth. You’re sick.

It’s not you, it’s him.

He believes in HIM so much, that even when you say something different, he continues to believe what he believes you said. There’s a reason he calls himself “King.” He actually believes that too. If he says it, it must be true. And I have never… ever… seen anything change his mind. He is an immovable rock of egotism and arrogance.

insideguy said:
No Cecelia that would be as simplistic as stating the Stalin was far left simply because he believed in govt control of the economy .

Well, of course he’s far left. Was he a democratic socialist? No.

I”m simply going with YOUR formulation.

ImNotBlue said:
He is an immovable rock of egotism and arrogance.

ie sociopath.

Cecelia said:
ie sociopath.

I’m going to stop just before that point, because that would imply this is how he is in “real life” too. And I doubt that.

Odds are, Royal lives at home with his parents, and this is how he makes himself feel like a “big man.” He’s a real “failure to launch” story. But in person, I’m sure he would wilt like a flower if put against any kind of criticism or debate. So yes, online he’s a sociopath. In person, I’d bet he’s just another loser loner.

ImNotBlue said:
’m going to stop just before that point, because that would imply this is how he is in “real life” too. And I doubt that.

Well, you shouldn’t. People aren’t one thing at home and another thing on the internet.

They may have a million sockpuppet names and a million false demographics, but who and what they TRULY are comes through consistently and loudly and clearly…

You can bank on it.

ImNotBlue said:
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Also the Unabomber admired Algore.

Ahhh so he was far left according to you. But Osama is not far right? He believed that religion should be involved in govt, he believes that the bible and the koran are the word of god. He believed that women are third class citizens, he does not believe in evolution, and preaches western democracys(including social democracys in europe) are the great satan and uses violence to try and wipe out people who disagree with him, this seems like a far right wing ideology to me.

Buyer’s remorse, really??? LOL

Frankly I get so amused sometimes while I watch(here) Chris Matthews; I could bet my life savings that he snorts cocaine frequently than we can imagine, but that is not the issue here.

What’s the issue here is that I’m so amused he centered on a “buyer’s remorse” topic while using Republican governors as a case study, yet his political “god” has a Presidential job approval rating in the 40′s(47% average to be precise) in spite of even the left-leaning pollsters trying consistently(and unsuccessfully) to keep him above the fifty mark. As of now even Daily Kos does not dare to show Obama above forty nine percent.

Gallup: 45%
Rasmussen: 47%
ABC/Washington Post: 47%
NBC/WSJ: 49%
FOX News: 48%
CBS News: 48%
CNN/Opinion Research: 48%
Quinnipiac: 47%
DailyKos: 49%

This Hardball drug addict wants to tell us about buyers remorse when he never mentioned the fact since the healthcare law was passed, that ALL MAJOR POLLS until today have showed that more than half of Americans want it repealed by a huge margin of 11% points(53% – 42%).

If the term buyer’s remorse had a photo attached to it, Obama’s face would be the photo and not Christie.

THe unabomber is interesting if you read his manifesto he comes across as anti-left but not sure if he was right wing , he was just plain nuts.

‘Loudmouths Are Not Popular With Women’

Exactly, Chris. That is why women cannot stand you. You are a word slurring loud mouth of the Nth degree. You need to either stop the drugs or stop drinking before your show. You are slurring your speech so badly now that you make President GW Bush sound like Abraham Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt. Do your drinking after your finished doing your show and you might get another viewer or two. Then again, probably not. Never mind…!

insideguy said:
this seems like a far right wing ideology to me.

Yes, I’m not surprised… but that’s because you have your ideas all wrong. Let’s explore:

He believed that religion should be involved in govt,

Conservative theory states that religion should be out of the government’s hands, as it is no business of theirs what the citizens practice.

he believes that the bible and the koran are the word of god.

Are you saying that Liberals don’t believe in God or the Bible? Do you think this is a political philosophy?

He believed that women are third class citizens,

Something Republicans and Conservatives disagree with.

he does not believe in evolution,

And that defined his actions? Or is that just a similarity? For example, we know he also watched television. Does that mean all people who watch television are just like bin Laden?

and preaches western democracys(including social democracys in europe) are the great satan and uses violence to try and wipe out people who disagree with him,

And where has that been a Conservative or Republican platform? To kill the citizens and governments of Western Democracies?

So, like I said… you appear to have your information incorrect, which is why you’ve drawn such a foolish conclusion. Just as one could say, “bin Laden desired to have his government in control of the daily lives of all his people,” and then draw a parallel between the Obama Administration increasing programs which make the people dependant on the government… the whole thing is foolish. Bin Laden wasn’t a left or a right guy. He was a murderous thug, attempting to be a dictator, and using religion and fear as his method of domination. It is highly doubtful whether he ever cared or was concerned about anything (the people, religion, etc.) other than increasing his own power.

Drooling Wack-0-Libs aren’t popular with ANYONE.

BFD said:
Obama’s number’s have declined to where he was before the Osama bump.This is common.
Christie’s numbers are a record low for him.

One is old news and one is new news.
See that difference?

I didn’t think so.

Obama’s approval rating has collapsed since he took office. An approval rating in the 60s has fallen to the low 40s. The only way liberals like you can explain it is by claiming that 20% of the electorate became racists since 2008. Only a remarkable President such as Barack Obama could have such an impact on the voting public.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that loud arrogant obese bullies are not liked by women.

Right or left; Theocratic (Chrisian or Islamic) or atheistic; Socialism, nationalism or social nationalism .

They all are at their core toltalitarism dressed in different clothes but with all the same accessories.

The people who suffer and die, and they do in the countless millions, under them do not rejoice that their masters are Nazis rather than Stalinists or Maoists or vice versa.

Perhaps some here feel the philosophy that drives murderous tyrants matters. I don’t.

Have you seen Chris Christie’s new shoes? Neither has he.

I agree with you Grammie I actually do but the amazing thing is that not one right wing person will admit that Osama bin Ladens philosophy is far right its bizarre. Listen ImNotBlue you are not understanding my point. I am not claiming that conservatives are far right, u don’t get it. Osama BIN LADEN has a far right wing muslim philosophy. His ideas are no different than say a Pilgram or Purtian, except more radical. A puritan or pilgrim had a viewpoint of the world which was very conservative therefore this is considered a far right conservative philosophy. Osama Bin Laden is not a liberal muslim in any sense of the word don’t you understand that? A liberal or progressive muslim would support a women right to vote, drive , not get beheaded when if she gets raped, and so on and so forth. Don’t u understand this? Now do conservative muslims support this also maybe some im sure but Osama and the Talibans take that conservative philosophy and ratchet it further to the right. I did not say that destroiny western socialists democracies was a republican platform. But it is a platform of far-rightwing muslim platforms. It is not the platform of progressive liberal muslim platforms.

You mean like yourself Chris “Tingles” Matthews?

BFD said:
I’m pretty sure Christie doesn’t float.

Is he not human? Are you a birther?

insideguy said:
Listen ImNotBlue you are not understanding my point. I am not claiming that conservatives are far right, u don’t get it. Osama BIN LADEN has a far right wing muslim philosophy. His ideas are no different than say a Pilgram or Purtian, except more radical.

Um… if his opinions were “no different,” “except more radical,” wouldn’t that make them different?

A puritan or pilgrim had a viewpoint of the world which was very conservative therefore this is considered a far right conservative philosophy.

Well, I suppose you’d have to define “far right” so we know where you’re coming from.

Osama Bin Laden is not a liberal muslim in any sense of the word don’t you understand that? A liberal or progressive muslim would support a women right to vote, drive , not get beheaded when if she gets raped, and so on and so forth. Don’t u understand this? Now do conservative muslims support this also maybe some im sure but Osama and the Talibans take that conservative philosophy and ratchet it further to the right.

Okay… so what? What is your point?

I did not say that destroiny western socialists democracies was a republican platform. But it is a platform of far-rightwing muslim platforms. It is not the platform of progressive liberal muslim platforms.

So what’s your point?

My point is the he is a far right muslim terrorist its really not debatable but for some reason you cant get it. Let me give you an example. William Aires is widely considered a far left terrorist for exploding bombs and trying to kill people. This is correct because his political and social philosophy was left wing . But the difference between him and and the hippie who held up a peace sign at woodstock is that he took his left leaning philosophy and expanded upon it then took violent action to try and bring attention to this philosophy therefore he was a far left wing terrorist. Get it?

insideguy said:
My point is the he is a far right muslim terrorist its really not debatable but for some reason you cant get it. Let me give you an example. William Aires is widely considered a far left terrorist for exploding bombs and trying to kill people. This is correct because his political and social philosophy was left wing . But the difference between him and and the hippie who held up a peace sign at woodstock is that he took his left leaning philosophy and expanded upon it then took violent action to try and bring attention to this philosophy therefore he was a far left wing terrorist. Get it?

Except Ayres was part of an American political group… bin Laden isn’t… so to equate them with “far-left” or “far-right” philosophies is simply wrong.

No its not ImNotBlue all nations have right,far right, left and far left groups. The KKK is far right, the PETA is far left.

Far-right politics
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Far right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. The terms are often used to imply that someone is an extremist. The terms have been used by different scholars in somewhat conflicting ways.[1]
Far right politics commonly involve supremacism — a belief that superiority and inferiority is an innate reality between individuals and groups — and a complete rejection of the concept of social equality as a norm.[2] Far right politics often support segregation; the separation of groups deemed to be superior from groups deemed to be inferior.[3] Far right politics also commonly include authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[4]
The ideologies usually associated with the far right include fascism, Nazism and other ultra-nationalist, religiously extreme or reactionary ideologies.[5][6][7][8][9]
The term radical right refers to sections of the far right that promote views which are very conservative in traditional left-right terms, but which aim to break with prevailing institutions and practices.[10] The radical right does not have a clear straightforward structure, but rather consists of overlapping subcultures with diverse styles of rhetoric, dress and symbolism whose cohesion comes from the use of alternative system of communications.[11]
At the far right, the limitations of the conventional left-right political spectrum become apparent. Whereas small government and laissez-faire capitalism are sometimes considered right-wing ideals, Fascists favour a dominant state that intervenes in economic as well as social spheres. For example, the 2010 manifesto of the ‘far right’ British National Party supports the National Health Service, “free university education to deserving students”, reversal of rail privatization, nationalization of telecommunications infrastructure, and “an active protectionist policy” for British industry[12].
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and this is far left

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The far left promotes social justice and egalitarianism more explicitly in language and sometimes in action,[1] may exhibit opposition to and aggression towards stratified economic, political and social establishments,[2] and is typically hostile towards people who are associated with a stratified establishment.[3]
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The origin of left as a political term is the seating arrangements in the French National Assembly during the French Revolution. The most radical of the Jacobins were seated on the far left of the chamber. The term Jacobin was used to describe far left people throughout much of the 19th century. Since then, the term far left has been used to describe persons or groups who hold extreme egalitarian views and who support radical social and political change.
In France, the term extrême-gauche (“far left”) is a generally accepted term for political groups to the left of the French Communist Party (such as Trotskyists, anarchists, Maoists and New Leftist).[4]
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And your point is, what?

lol that the taliban and Osama have a far right wing philosophy thats all. Its not hard to accept just like the KKK has a far right wing philosophy its just a fact!

insideguy said:
lol that the taliban and Osama have a far right wing philosophy thats all. Its not hard to accept just like the KKK has a far right wing philosophy its just a fact!

Okay… let’s assume for the moment that’s true. So what? Are you trying to equate American right-wing politics with far-right lunatic groups? Is that your point?

Ahhh wow I think we have turned a corner. If you remember way back a million posts ago WC said that the left is crazier than the right. This is not true. Both the far left and far right are very dangerous and the logical left and right try to keep them on a leash. This is why when David duke ran for office both sides came our against him. We on the left get upset when you try and paint us into a far left mentality by cherry picking people or incidents on the far left and trying to equate that with how all liberals think. The same reason you get upset and rightfully so if I try and equate a normal conservative to a KKK member. My point is and I do believe this is that the far right is more dangerous than the far left at during this time and place. Both are ignorant and stupid, but as we speak at this moment(and it could change) the far right in this country is far more violent as far as killing people than the far right.

correction on last sentence the far right is far more violent as far as killing people than the far left

Hilarious considering Matthews is one of the biggest misogynists on the boob tube. Do we need to dig out all of the Hillary or Palin comments? LOL.

he may be a loudmouth but i can’t argue over his views….

insideguy said:
My point is and I do believe this is that the far right is more dangerous than the far left at during this time and place. Both are ignorant and stupid, but as we speak at this moment(and it could change) the far right in this country is far more violent as far as killing people than the far right.

Ignoring the foolishness of your statement, or its immeasurably… what does that have to do with bin Laden and his group?

…the voice of experience…lol

I wonder if Chris Matthews will talk about this new poll?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-22/obama-gets-30-of-americans-certain-to-support-re-election-in-economy-poll.html

In essence, Obama has now lost virtually all his support among moderates and independents. Only 30% of the public — basically the left and far left — are ready to vote for him next year.

This is a big story. But you won’t hear about it on MSNBC. Because it falls into the (growing) category of stories that they don’t report on — namely anything that makes the President look bad, weak or vulnerable.

The only one sinking in the polls is Obama, but that’s not showing up on Hardball.

Christie’s not running, SADLY, so it’s a moot issue. Christie is nothing if not honest, and he’s said it repeatedly Covering him makes no sense. You know, unless all news for your candidate is well, lousy….

Obama has a strong polling of people (around 40%) that won’t vote for Obama regardless. These are terrible polling numbers. @fleix is right, the real story can’t be told on MSNBC,

‘Loudmouths Are Not Popular With Women’

Then Chris Matthews hasn’t gotten laid in a long time.

Azarkhan said:
Then Chris Matthews hasn’t gotten laid in a long time.

Kind of obvious, isn’t it?

Matthews On Chris Christie’s Sinking Polls: ‘Loudmouths Are Not Popular With Women’

It’s not the volume tingles, it’s the message. ALL the women I know admire Chris Christie…and they think you’re a twerp.

Has anyone wondered why Mediaite has failed to do a story on “Operation Fast & Furious?” You know, the operation where Eric Holder allowed thousands of guns to be purchased from US gunshops by the Mexican drug cartels, one of which was used to murder a US Border Agent?

If Matthews and Left are attacking him, you can bet their scared to death of him.

CAconservative said:
If Matthews and Left are attacking him, you can bet their scared to death of him.

TRUE.