Weiner picked the wrong guy to lie about. We know liberals always LIE. Just read the posts by Royal King.

Glenn was really funny last night. Oh, the whinerman has Glenn shaking is his shoes!

This man is an idiot! Didn’t you see his commencement speech at Liberty? It was wingnut gibberish. By the way, didn’t gold drop 12 POINTS yesterday? He’s conning the stupid and the uninformed, otherwise known as the right.

rox, that anger management class just isn’t working. Perhaps a nice cup of Chamomile tea.

Why would you think I’m angry? Is this an attempt to deflect from the fact that gold prices plunged? The guy is a swindler. Surely you don’t think anyone on the left is stupid enough to get sucked into this scam? Wait? Did you buy some of that gold he’s been peddling? Someone’s projecting!

roxsteady says:
May 22, 2010 at 11:32 am
This man is an idiot! Didn’t you see his commencement speech at Liberty? It was wingnut gibberish. By the way, didn’t gold drop 12 POINTS yesterday? He’s conning the stupid and the uninformed, otherwise known as the right.

Oh my gosh, 12 points in ONE day. The sky is falling. If I were you Rox, I wouldn’t put any of your $$ into the stock market, if a 12 point loss in one day is the end of the world.

Again I say, this REGIME is full of really slow learners. Bill looks intent on connecting those obvious dots of weiner to obama.

“wiener” ≠ “Weiner.” Then again, spelling is hardly Glenn’s strong suit.

Given Beck’s history as a drug-addicted low-life, that surely wasn’t the first time he’s been sucking on hot dog. The only difference is that now he’s doing it as a comedy bit instead of trading blowies for crack.

Worry not though sheep. He was thinking about Jesus’ love every time he was swallowing hog.

It’s a ratings ploy. With so many homophobe Conservatives living secret gay lives, Beck knew that the sight of him entering a wiener in his mouth, would excite the viewers, lift the ratings and send starbursts of joy throughout Red America. No doubt a top TioVo moment for our Down Low friends on the Right.

Try again dear!

By the way, the website Crooks and Liars has a great article on the Rodeo Clown and his new obsession with Martin Luther King and Beck’s claim that . You should read it. Here’s a taste:

“Thursday on his Fox News show, he tried to deny that progressives had any right to the mantle of civil rights:

Beck: Who were the Civil Rights marchers? They were people with a profound belief in God. They were trying to set things right. They weren’t crying for social justice! They were crying out for equal justice!

Well, actually, Glenn …

“Social justice” was a common rallying cry for the Civil Rights movement. Indeed, your newly adopted hero, Martin Luther King, gave a famous speech in Michigan titled “Social Justice and the Emerging New Age”, on December 18, 1963, at the Herman W. Read Fieldhouse at Western Michigan University.

“I think with all of these challenges being met and with all of the work, and determination going on, we will be able to go this additional distance and achieve the ideal, the goal of the new age, the age of social justice.”
-MLK

The speech may best be remembered for its stirring conclusion:

This will be the day when all of God’s children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, “Free at last! Free at last! Thank God, Almighty, we are free at last!”

I told you….Beck is an idiot! Or maybe he’s just trying to rewrite history. Epic Fail! Ha!
Oh, and Michelle, my comment on the 12 point drope was not to say that the sky was falling. Just gold prices. It’s what we on the left call a fact!

rox, from the calm demeanor of your posts, I’m certainly glad you’re not angry. And I hate to put a dent in your non-hatred of Beck, but gold has historically been one of the soundest investments anyone can make. Sure there will be fluctuations, but gold has been a sound investment long before Beck came along, and it will continue to be.

Can you not call me dear, it’ freaks me out a bit.

Oh, and don’t bother correcting my typos. Instead, try to dispute the facts laid out in the comment. I won’t hold my breath though.

That’s why I did it. You folks are so easy.

P. T. Barnum was right.

Is there anything more disgusting than watch a soft fat man eat a hot dog? Well, yes there is. When he’s not eating the hot dog, he’s talking. That’s even more disgusting.

I’ll make you a deal Rox, when you actually watch Glenn’s show and can point out where he is wrong YOURSELF instead of going to the Daily Kos or Media Matters for your daily talking points, THEN we’ll have a conversation.

Any clip of Beck without him crying is almost a waste of time (so I laughed with glee at the Liberty commencement speech — even posted it on FB). Except I agree with PoliticalGlutton — Beck knew exactly the base he was exciting with eating Weiner.

If the Rand Paul episode teahces us anything, it is that in the Republican partyof 2010, racism is welcome and, indeed, prized. It’s a hard thing to figure out, because there were lions of the party who fought nobly for civil rights. What has happened?

The King watches Beck religiously. Never misses a show and can quote him verbatim.

Wow, King it actually took you 2 posts this time to use the word racism!! You’re getting better!!!

Welcome back, King. (LOL) Since you’re so outraged by racism, could you explain to us why your hatred of white people isn’t racism? And going into your ‘yoke of oppression, jack of clubs, king of diamonds’ excuse is just an excuse. Tell us why you don’t consider hating the entire white race as racism.

I know Glenn considers himself an entertainer, but this is just too wierd.

Actually, I’ve got more:

Congressman Anthony Weiner announced that his office had investigated one of Glenn Beck’s favorite sponsors, Goldline International, Inc, and found that it sells its gold coins for an average of 90 percent above the coins’ value by weight, meaning that the investors Beck rounds up are unlikely see any gains unless the price of gold doubles. So, a 12 point drop is significant.

Now, apparently Beck had time to showcase his theory that an “unholy alliance” — composed of Jim Wallis, Van Jones, Andy Stern, Media Matters, Weiner, and what looked to be some sort of demon Weiner fan — is out to “silence anybody who speaks out about this program but, he never disputed what Weiner is accusing him of. He’s not alone!

I have to go now but, don’t worry. I’ll be back later!

Good luck, Writer, that’s one question King doesn’t seem to want to answer. I’ve tried.

Have fun at the Daily Kos convention, Rox!! Say hi to George Soros!

Rox,

Probably not your best approach using the gold distinction. 12 points in 1 day!

Gold has dropped 73 point this week. But gold 200 points higher (17%) in last year, 400 points higher last 3 years (34%), 700 points higher last 5 years (42.5%) and the Dow is flat of a bit lower than 5 years ago.

I don’t own gold from goldline either but do own gold etf whhich is up 32% last 5 years. But gold has performed much much much better than equities for a long time now.

rox, we’ll just have to struggle till you get back.

King,
What has happened? I was a Republican for over 30 years, voting for every Republican presidential candidate from Ford to Bush 43 (twice). Recently, however, the party has been taken over by a far right wing element. And you have not seen anything yet. If the Republicans do not turn back to the center, where they have been as long as I can remember, the party will become so alienated from mainstream America that they will be lucky to hold even a third of the elected offices.

Val, are you saying the dem’s haven’t been taken over by the far left!? How do you explain Obama’s support from I’s going from the mid 60′s to the 40′s since he was elected?

valk, have you ever really read the King’s posts? He hates the entire white race and he hates ‘Amerika’. And you’re actually trying to have a real discussion with him concerning Republican intolerance?

And I’ve noticed writer, every times he’s called out, he disappears, like a good race baiter does.

Vidiot says:
May 22, 2010 at 11:51 am

Yeah, but being that Weiner pronounces it that way… who are you to correct him?

valkyrie101 says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:12 pm

It’s amazing how many of these, “I was a Republican until…” show up on this site. If I was more cynical, I’d say something like, “Yes, I’m so sure.” But that’s not for me. No, apparently everyone on the left currently, once was on the right… that is, until right now. But not to worry, they’re “right now” will be next year too, and the year after, and the year after.

_______

Wow… look at all the gay and homophobic talk from the left! Wow! And I thought you guys were the “tolerant” ones. Apparently not!

Tommy Christopher… where are you, buddy?! Scold! Scold!

Valkyrie: I do think that if this tren in the party continues, Republicanism will be largely dead by 2020. I’m not sure that we have ever witnessed anything like this in the US. What I think is particularly troubling, I don’t see anyone emerging in the party who can turn the tide. Mainstream Republicans have become obscure, and all of the others are so busy pandering to the racists and extremists that they are not going to suddenly stand up and fight for principles.

MichelleF says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:21 pm
And I’ve noticed writer, every times he’s called out, he disappears, like a good race baiter does.

—

That is a lie, Michelle, and it is well beneath you. INB and Righter may not hold the truth in high regard, but I always though you did. Shame on you!

The Real Royal King says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:25 pm

That is a lie, Michelle, and it is well beneath you. INB and Righter may not hold the truth in high regard, but I always though you did. Shame on you!

Definition time!

The “truth” to TRRK is anything he perceives as “true.” For example, despite no evidence to support his 12:23pm post, he believes that’s the “truth.”

When I provide evidence, or point out his lack of evidence… I’m not being “truthful.” Not because I’m factually wrong… but because I disagree with King, and prove he’s a hack.

Remember folks… to someone like TRRK, “truth” is in the eye of the beholder. It all goes back to my original thesis… these folks (and the majority of folks today) don’t know the difference between “opinion” and “fact.”

Weren’t you flying home to the States today TRRK?

From the Calderon/F&F thread article

ImNotBlue says:
May 21, 2010 at 2:01 pm

The Real Royal King says:
May 21, 2010 at 1:55 pm

I swear, INB, you are the biggest snitch I’ve ever seen.

Really? That’s how you’re going to approach this one? Someone on the board posts an address, and says they’ll be there with “lighter fluid,” and it’s my fault for wanting an explanation on why that’s acceptable language… but far less gets “banned” or “removed”? Wow, King… wow. I guess you think that language is acceptable… yes or no?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The poster that uses the name Bovine mixed in with Mark, Glenn, Koldys, and variations thereof, is really a nasty animal. I’ve had experience dealing with Bovine, let’s check him out. If you want to know more about Bovine, read on.

Do a search of the word “gNOpig”. Search on Mediate and you will find Bovine posts where he uses that word.

You will see that Bovine has an obsession with this Jeff Merrill. As a matter of fact, The Real Royal King mentions Jeff often. You will see that Bovine often provides link to an address allegedly belonging to Merrill along with a link to a horse named Royal King and a photo of some man. Royal King, just like in The Real Royal King.

Hmmmm, both Bovine and TRRK are interested in Merrill and a horse named Royal King.

Now search google for the term. Focus only on the exact spelling and use of upper lower case. Ignore any websites where it is spelled “GnoPIG”.

You’ll find variations of Bovine posts on Think Progress and Newshounds. Bovine really hates Johnny Dollar (Johnny Dollars Site). He also hates Jeff Merrill. Bovine frequently mentions someone named Janet, which TRRK by coincidence also mentions from time to time. Also check out the link to SODAHEAD.COM site, check out the man who claims to have a high school education only and lives in Austin (Hey, just like TRRK). He uses “gNOpig”. Could this be Bovine? Could this also be TRRK? They both seem to have a lot in common! Hmmmm, maybe one day we’ll find out! Stay tuned!

I think it is important that we all know who these posters are that make threats of violence, we should know ALL about them if they are going to threaten like that.

Back to identifying Bovine. After you’ve Googled “gNOpig” and you find the Sodahead website for “texas_democrat_06″, scroll down slightly. See the image of The Texas Democrat Party? Click on it, some nice photos to be found on Photobucket. Save that. Now google “texas_democrat_06 flickr”. Find the “Flickr” website, check that out and you will see some nice photos of the same people, notice they are photos taken in Austin at the State House, notice pic 2434e. Now google “Robert Stephenson Meetup Austin”. Find the page for Robert from Austin, joined 1988. Note that is the same photo found on the Flickr Site belonging to “texas_democrat_06″ from the photobucket site linked to the Sodahead site poster from Austin who uses “gNOpig” in the same manner that only he and Bovine use on the internet.
Is Robert Stephenson Bovine? Could Bovine TRRK?

I’ve been called out? I’ve disappeared? King, I’m always thrilled to debate you. Trouble is, I present topics to discuss, like your hatred of the white race, and you go off on some ‘yoke of oppression’ tangent excusing your hatred. I’m here, King. Let me have it.

“I’ve been called out?” That was meant to be quoting the King, expressing his surprise. Got ahead of myself. But King, the offer stands. Bring it on.

The Real Royal King says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:25 pm
MichelleF says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:21 pm
And I’ve noticed writer, every times he’s called out, he disappears, like a good race baiter does.

—

That is a lie, Michelle, and it is well beneath you. INB and Righter may not hold the truth in high regard, but I always though you did. Shame on you! And you STILL haven’t answered the question. Why is your hatred of whites not considered racist?

No, shame on you, King. All you have is charges of racism day in and day out and people are fed up with it.

Maybe the King is resting now. It’s a long way back from Mumbai. Man, he sure made it back quick, didn’t he?

Michelle, I am pleased that racists are tired of my calling them out. Thank you for telling me that. I shall now forgive you your lie.

MichelleF says : people are fed up with it.

Thank you !

Well, I may back in the States but I am still hours from home.

You do know, Righter, that when I have a 9:00 a.m. flight from, say Frankfurt am Main, it is 2:00 a.m. in Texas? As one goes East, one picks up time, and as one goes West, one loses time. You can read all about it in “Time Zones for Idiots”.

tws258 says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:43 pm
MichelleF says : people are fed up with it.

Thank you !

—

My thanks to you as well.

Still dodging that racism question, aren’t you King?

Just like Pres. Bush was the best thing to happen to the liberal movement, Pres Obama is becoming the best thing to happen to the conservative movement. Policies, actions, job performance matter.

MA senate seat to an (R) is still mind boggling. Never thought I would ever see that in my lifetime.

TRRK

A lie will easily get you out of a scrape, and yet, strangely and beautifully, rapture possesses you when you have taken the scrape and left out the lie. ~Charles Edward Montague, Disenchantment

writer says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Still dodging that racism question, aren’t you King?

You noticed that too?

I wonder if the King is aware that the airplane was invented by a couple of white guys? I’m surprised that he didn’t walk back from Mumbai in protest. LOL

Gold is one of those investments, like stocks, in which the price depends on public confidence. If the public loses confidence that gold is a good investment, the price will fall. And right now gold is very high. You know what they say, buy low, sell high. If the gold bubble breaks, the price will plummet. At that point, all of these Beck fans who went for his gold game will be most unhappy. Which would be pretty ironic since the primary reason Beck is pitching gold is as a hedge against devaluation of the currency and a plummeting DOW, both of which Beck preaches are right around the corner. In other words, Beck has convinced people to bet against the DOW and against the dollar. In other words, they hope the DOW falls, they hope the monetary system fails, so their profits will be maximized. And that point of view works well for Republicans since they hope the President and his policies fail, they hope umemployment goes up, they hope inflation increases, so they can say: “Hey, the Democrats failed, vote for us.” Pretty sick, really. On the otherhand, Goldline makes its money off of the margin on buying and selling so I am not sure a plummeting gold price will really hurt them. (Though, if the gold bubble does break, you can bet their litigation costs will go up because lot’s of people will be looking to sue…)

Rox

“By the way, didn’t gold drop 12 POINTS yesterday?”

No it didn’t!! Gold doesn’t drop in points; if it drops, it drops in dollars!

Wow, you are ignorant!

Michelle,
The Democrats have not been taken over by the far left. Where did you get that idea? Give me some examples.

Gasp! The sellers of gold actually expect to make a profit! And they pay Beck to do commercials for them! This is an outrage!

There are bubbles in all investments. Let’s see, maybe even a real estate bubble. Yea, we’ve seen those, oil, yup, equities, yup.

Don’t invest in gold or equities if you don’t want to. Mos people don’t just invest in gold and not the dow. 100% in gold only. I don’t think so. Pretty sure they most would have 401k, stocks, etf’s, index funds, savings account.

C’Mon!

PoliticalGlutton PoliticalGlutton says:
May 22, 2010 at 11:54 am

It’s a ratings ploy. With so many homophobe Conservatives living secret gay lives, Beck knew that the sight of him entering a wiener in his mouth, would excite the viewers,”

I bet you salivated over Glenn, didn’t ya PG??

Thanks TylerD. Not points, dollars.

And right now gold is very high. You know what they say, buy low, sell high. If the gold bubble breaks, the price will plummet. ”

Like every other investment. Wow- great insight.

And what has the market done in two weeks?

Dropped 10%.

You are right, razor, diversified investments are best, and investing in gold as part of a diversified portfolio with stocks and other investments makes some sense.

Speaking of TRRK – it’s hilarious as to how crazy a woman may get when you say you think she is married to TRRK!

If someone told me I was married to “x” when I was not, I would simply reply to that person that they were mistaken. I wouldn’t go crazy, call Mediatite for help, then go on to divulge what I claim is my complete name and address!

Check out Susan, “SueNAustin”. Austin, where TRRK claims he is from and where Bovine is from.

Go to an older Mediaite article dated April 19, 2010 “Bill Maher: Tea Partiers ‘Nostalgic For An Era When Blacks Were Invisible’” SueNAustin (Sue in Austin!!!) has an interesting exchange with TRRK and PatsyDaWuss who figured out the Bovine identity:

Read the thread, all Patsy does is claim one poster is married to another, Sue flips out! Looks like Patsy hit a nerve.

Rather than calling names and dancing like Ginger Rogers, the King isn’t really responding to anything. What a shock!

The King said yesterday that America is a democracy- now how stupid can ya get?

Valkyrie, let me propose a wager. I will invest in gold, and you can invest in shares of Obama’s Government Motors (formerly known as General Motors), which the President is in the process of turning around (LOL!!!). Then we can see which one of us makes more money over the next year.

And if you make more money on Government Motors, then you can criticize Glenn Beck’s investment advice. But until then, you should really avoid pointing out Beck’s connection to gold investments. It simply shows how smart Beck is, and how much better he understands the economic situation than the President.

Poor, poor Weener. He must be a idiot or sumthin. He picked on the rong guy. His name is Glenn. Weee tea-baggers pray to Glenn for…all kinds a shit. He answered my prayer buy eatin a hot dog on the TV. Glenn has a plan, Weener, he dont even no how to build a web cite or anything. He must be a idiut or somethin.

I have 3 and one-half acres of survival food I dont no watt to do with. I will pray to Glenn fer a answer.

“The democrats have not been taken over by the far left.” And you’re serious, valk? They applaud when Calderon kicks us in the teeth. Obama appoints people like Van Jones (a self-proclaimed communist) and Cass Sunstein. Any farther left and we’ll be adopting Mao’s little red book.

And Weiner has been nailed in two FEC matters.

A $47,000 fine (“civil penalty”) against Weiner because of financial misconduct in one of his reelection campaigns and a $28,000 loan that Weiner’s parents made to one of his campaign committees.

Weiner would know about scandals.

Did you notice that TRRK had no comment when Bovine made the violent threat against another poster, but when I’m Not Blue complained about Bovine making that threat, TRRK called INB a snitch. TRRK went after the one making the complaint about the threat, he did not go after the one making the threat. Why does TRRK defend Bovine?

WhoIs, why does the King claim to be a white Texan who hates white southerners? Why does he stereotype conservatives as rich business tyrants, and poor toothless hillbillies, practically in the same breath? And all the while, he sees no hypocrisy in himself. It truly is a mystery. JMO, two words. Mental illness.

Glenn, eating a sausage on camera? Not a good look for you.

Ted says:
May 22, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Poor, poor Weener. He must be a idiot or sumthin. He picked on the rong guy. His name is Glenn. Weee tea-baggers pray to Glenn for…all kinds a shit. He answered my prayer buy eatin a hot dog on the TV. Glenn has a plan, Weener, he dont even no how to build a web cite or anything. He must be a idiut or somethin.

I have 3 and one-half acres of survival food I dont no watt to do with. I will pray to Glenn fer a answer.

Do you realize you make zero sense when you talk?

Writer, in my humble opinion, TRRK is white, he is a Texan. Regarding his actions, the reasons are simple. He is Bovine who is an extremely sick hate-filled person. MrGlennBovineKoldy. Go to

http://www.reddit.com/r/johndollarfullofcrap/comments/9lz2e/we_read_j_so_you_do_have_to/?sort=new

for posts, surf down to posts made 2-3 months ago. Notice that there are many posts linking a photo of someone named Jeff with a horse named Royal King. Doesn’t The Real Royal King (Royal King the horse?) also mention Jeff a lot?

MichelleF says:
May 22, 2010 at 1:49 pm

Ted says:

Ignore him. He is a 2 year old who is lonely starving for attention.

The King does seem obsessed with Jeff, Janet, Koldys, and so on. There’s a guy called Real Royal King on facebook, and he’s a 22 year old black guy. I didn’t know, but thought that might be the King here. If he is actually a white guy living in the south, then man. His degree of self-loathing is verging on psychotic.

Beck acts like a child in the clip above. Even O’Reilly feels pity for him.

shootfromthehip says:
May 22, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Beck acts like a child in the clip above. Even O’Reilly feels pity for him.

Satire is lost on libs. You all need to find your sense of humor, you’d be much happier.

MichelleF – Yes…and neither do you. Buy seeds.

Yes, you could be right Felix, perhaps Beck has some special insight into the future of our country, and in the most sensible investments, etc., but that knowlege would not come from his education, training and experience, since he is a disk jockey not an investment expert. Rather than getting his insight from education and experience in the investment industry, he gathers his views from his religious beliefs which hold that America is going to melt down. Since I do not subscribe to that view I will be happy to pass on Glenn’s advice. But hey, you are welcome to follow his advice. That’s cool.

tea-bag tyler – if’n i was starving for attention I would start crying and talking about reedickalus bullshit. I might even right a book called The Plan. God knows I needs one. I will pray to Glenn for guidance on this. Please join me and eat a hot dog in Glenns honor. Libs are idiuts. Buy gold.

Hate to break this to you valk. But all those celebs doing commercials aren’t really experts on the products they’re selling.

The Real Royal King says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:46 pm

Man… I just can’t figure how someone who travels so much (and obviously has an important job), can spend so much time writing on this site! It’s pretty impressive. He’s gotta work all day, fly around the globe (I wonder how much oil he uses?), and still have time to write post after post after post here!

It’s almost like it’s just not true…

valkyrie101 says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:54 pm

Excellent point! In fact, once the CEO of Goldline went to McDonalds and got a burger. Because he got the burger, someone in the back had to cook it. While cooking it they burnt themselves. Because of the burn, they had to go to the doctor. The doctor who saw them, wasn’t able to see another patient… and so that patient did something else during the day. While doing something else, they got into a car accident and got really hurt.

So essentially, Glenn beck and the Republicans hurt this poor person as they were just running their errands. What a bad group of people.

(Incase you didn’t get the sarcasm… your “links” are so absurd, and your conclusion is laughable. I guess by your logic, nobody should ever give advice on the stock market. Heck, by your logic, the Obama Administration’s lack of will to do anything about illegal immigration in Arizona, is essentially the same as them wanting all the AZ people murdered. What a bunch of nonsense.)

valkyrie101 says:
May 22, 2010 at 12:59 pm

The Democrats have not been taken over by the far left.

*See Joe Lieberman. Attacked by far-left groups like MoveOn, and KOS… forced out of the party because he didn’t go along 100% with them… yet overwhelmingly re-elected by the mainstream.

Anything else?

writer says:
May 22, 2010 at 2:22 pm

Wait… you mean all those celebrity spokespeople who advertise all kinds of products aren’t actually experts?! And here I thought that Jamie Lee Curtis was actually a yogurt and digestion expert. My world is shattered.

writer,
Yes, the celebrity spokesperson is just that, a “spokesperson”, so I understand what you are saying. Glenn is a spokesperson who reads a script written by the company that pays him money to read it. As opposed to an investment expert.

But valk, before anyone knew of Glenn Beck, it was widely accepted that gold was a sound investment. Now, just because you disagree with Beck politically, that makes gold an unsound investment? If I like Pepsi, and some actor does a commercial for it, should I quit drinking it because I don’t believe the actor knows the formula to make Pepsi?

Being a former morning radio hack really speaks volumes about Beck and is a perfect explanation for the schtick he’s been trotting out the past few years.

“I’m a rodeo clown” Beck once said. At least he cops to it, unfortunately a good deal of his audience don’t realize he’s intentionally pulling the wool over their eyes.

writer,
First of all, the President of Mexico meerly pointed out what the Democrats are all mostly saying, the AZ law seems to be a reaction against Mexicans as opposed to a solution to illegal aliens residing in AZ. If AZ was really serious about that problem, they would pass laws, and focus their enforcement on making it a serious state level crime to hire illegal aliens. But since AZ depends so much on those illegal day laborers, and even illegal permanent workers in their agriculture industry, with thousands of them working every day, they refuse to do that. Why? Because if they had to hire people who were not desperate and easily abused they would have to pay a fair wage, which they rely on not doing with the illegals.

As for Jones and Sunstein, just what Maoist policies did they implement?

Anthony De Rosa says:
May 22, 2010 at 2:52 pm

“I’m a rodeo clown” Beck once said. At least he cops to it, unfortunately a good deal of his audience don’t realize he’s intentionally pulling the wool over their eyes.”

At least he admits he is a clown unlike KO , RM, and Maher..

And give me a list of all the people who have been FORCED to buy gold.

valkyrie101 says:

AZ was really serious about that problem, they would pass laws, and focus their enforcement on making it a serious state level crime to hire illegal aliens”

That’s in the law.

Southwest business did indeed take advantage of illegal cheap labor, and they’re partly responsible for the problem. But it’s like sneaking a little water from a tap, then not being able to turn it off. Now, instead of just getting enough people to work in the fields, we have millions of extras. With Arizona’s attempt to do something, anything, in the face of federal inaction, it’s a case of better late than never. Simply telling businesses now that they shouldn’t have hired illegals in the first place…that’s closing the door after millions of horses have gotten out. As for Jones and Sunstein, just tossing in Mao as a hyperbolic point of how far left many in this administration are.

writer,
Gold can be a sound investment when combined with other investments to form a diversified portfolio. People who take all their money out of the stock market, or savings account, and put it all in gold will be in trouble if the price of gold collapses. On the other hand, if things work out like Glenn believes, with the government collapsing, the stock market collapsing, the monetary system collapsing, etc., then perhaps that gold investment will really pay off. One thing for sure, there is no fast money in gold investing except for the middle men, like Goldline, who make an unconscionable margin on both sales and purchases. Test it out, buy some Goldline gold francs and then sell them back the same day. You will end up short and disappointed. But not Goldline, because they will have a significant portion of your money.

writer,
Federal inaction is a function of the minority party threatening to filibuster any effort to reform our immigration policy. Period.

writer,
Point out a single Maoist policy implemented by the Obama administration. And don’t say healthcare, because that was not on Mao’s radar screen at all.

Those millions didn’t get here yesterday, valk. The federal inaction to watch the border covers both parties and goes way, way back.

valkyrie101 says:

As for Jones and Sunstein, just what Maoist policies did they implement?”

Name one other administration that had self confessed Communists and Communists admirers as part of its advisory staff?

Valk, as I stated above, Mao was a (slight) exaggeration on how far left Obama and his buddies are.

notsofast,
If AZ is cracking down on employers that hire illegal aliens, where are the aliens working? No, AZ businesses get around the law on employing illegal aliens by using the “day laborer” exception. If they were serious about this issue, they could easily implement state law banning that practice, via, their second amendment powers.

Let’s see what Saul Alinsky’s son said about BHO:

In Artful Dodger style, Barack Obama, plays down his mentorship with Communist author Saul Alinsky. But Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky, credits Obama for “learning his lesson well” from the Communist guru.
Indeed, Alinsky Jr. who credits his late father for the success of last week’s Democratic National Convention, may have done something that Obama’s detractors couldn’t: blown the cover on the presidential hopeful’s communist leanings.

Says Alinsky’s son L. David Alinsky of his father’s influence at the Dem Convention: “ALL the elements were present: the individual stories told by real people of their situation and hardships, the packed-to-the rafters crowd, the crowd’s chanting of key phrases and names, the action on the spot of texting and phoning to show instant support and commitment to jump into the political battle, the rallying selections of music, the setting of the agenda by the power people.”

“The Democratic National Convention had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky style, the Communist guru’s son wrote in a letter published yesterday in the Boston Globe.

“Barack Obama’s training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness,” Alinsky Jr. wrote to the Globe.

“It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well.

alkyrie101 says:
May 22, 2010 at 3:13 pm

notsofast,
If AZ is cracking down on employers that hire illegal aliens, where are the aliens working? No, AZ businesses get around the law on employing illegal aliens by using the “day laborer” exception. If they were serious about this issue, they could easily implement state law banning that practice, via, their second amendment powers.”

Its in the law and its up to them to enforce it but either way, that does not make illegal immigration legal.

Nice try.

valk, the illegal immigration problem is sort of like the gulf oil spill. You’re saying deal with the oil that’s already come out, and that’s fine. But that has to go hand in hand with shutting off the flow, or it won’t do any good.

writer says:
May 22, 2010 at 3:11 pm

Valk, as I stated above, Mao was a (slight) exaggeration on how far left Obama and his buddies are.”

Really? An exaggeration?

Anita Dunn –
“And then the third lesson and tip actually come from two of my favorite political philosophers, Mao Tse-Tung and Mother Teresa — not often coupled with each together, but the two people that I turn to most to basically deliver a simple point, which is, you’re going to make choices. “

I was trying to humor valk.

But the truth is still the truth, brother.

Word.

I don’t know what’s worse. Glenn pushing overpriced gold coins on his idiot audience or that pathetically juvenile attempt at humor.

notsofast,
Dude, communism is dead. Obama is not a communist. I mean, sure, it sounds real cool to say that over and over but it has nothing to do with reality. The reason Beck says that is because he is obsessed with his hero, the formerly debunked and discredited (but now ressurected by Beck) Skousen, who, like Beck, sees a communist under every rock. And that is how the people on the far right, apparently, justify hoping the President fails.

writer,
I do not think people on the left are against closing the border. I know I am not against it. (Though, 20% of the illegal alien flow comes from Asia and Europe which would not be stopped by closing our southern border.) But that must be done in conjunction with cleaning up the spilled oil, and an immigration reform bill like IRCA of 1986, with an amnesty provision, is necessary to do that. Problem is, the Republican moderates, like McCain used to be, have been run out of town by the far right tea party crowd. And right now, as I have mentioned before, there is not a single Republican vote for immigration reform, and they have stated their intention to filibuster any reform effort. So there is nothing that Obama can do. He wanted to get to immigration reform this year but he has been symied by the Republican filibuster threat. So if you are frustrated with the lack of federal action, look in the mirror.

valkyrie101 says:
May 22, 2010 at 4:14 pm

notsofast,
Dude, communism is dead. ”

Dude, either your are a 3 year old or woefully ignorant. About 20% of the world population lives under Communism domination and its abominations and that makes it the 2nd. highest form of government by population in the world.

You really out to read.

notsofast,
Yes, breaking the immigration laws is illegal. And there are perhaps as many as 25 million illegals in the U.S. of which 80% are from this hemisphere. But there simply is no practical way, no humane way, to round up and deport those 25 million people and their U.S. born citizen children, without doing away with the basic rights of all our citizens, so the pragmatic solution, the way that we can get all 25 million on the books, so to speak, is through amnesty.

notsofast,
I suspect I am older than you, notsofast, and having lived through the cold war, with communism’s stated intention to ferment revolution all over the world, and we having stood up to that threat and won, with the breakdown of the Soviet empire, and the westernization of China, so I do not know what you are talking about. Are you afraid of communism, my friend? You shouldn’t be.

In another thread, I posted a couple of comments linking to information about trading gold and gold coins, plus not only did I link a couple of times to a Forbes explanation, I also linked to a page from the Murdochowned WSJ which doesn’t suggest Goldline, but two companies with a “mark-up” that is a fraction of the Goldline price.

And in that same thread, I pointed out multiple times that all the Better Business Bureau judges, the only basis for their ratings is whether or not a company has a clear contract and works with the BBB to satisfy any complaints to the terms of that contract.

In the above clip, Beck does some fence-sitting because he doesn’t pass the BBB’s rating off as an endorsement of Goldline, but instead, he uses it to as sort of a “badge” to contrast against Rep. Wiener’s history. And because Goldline is one of the few players in their industry to pay the Better Business Bureaus’ membership fee, they might be willing to use Beck’s fence-sitting as a shield, but one would expect that if he keeps painting a gray area, they may be left with no choice but to clarify the meanings of their ratings in a press release.

Again, for more info and a few links, click over to the previous thread and scan all the way down looking for the several comments marked by my lighthouse icon.

IOW: Re: BBB

If there is a BBB equivalent working in Amsterdam, Vienna or parts of Nevada, a legal prostitution ring could earn an A+ rating from the Bureau, if they have a clear contract and if they cooperate with the organization to resolve any complaints.

valkyrie101 says:
May 22, 2010 at 5:16 pm

thanks for admitting you were wrong about Communism being dead.

Over 1.35 billion live in Communist countries.

Do try to educate yourself. You are woefully ignorant of world governments, and don’t try to make China out to be a non-Communist country. You make yourself look even more ignorant.

notsofast,
A far more serious threat to our safety is posed, not by the materialistic, atheistic communists, who we crushed, but the hard core religious people who seek to hold us all in the bondage of their delusion.

MediaWhore says:
May 22, 2010 at 11:53 am

Given Beck’s history as a drug-addicted low-life,”

That’s funny- you loved that drunken Lothario Ted Kennedy.

notsofast,
What percentage of the Chinese do you think are communists?

but the hard core religious people who seek to hold us all in the bondage of their delusion.”

Sure. Whatever you say.

And just when did they say that?

And do tell me all the great things Communism has done for the world and its people?

You mean the mass murders, subjugation of liberty, and the gulags?

You can have them, Valkyrie. I know libs like that kind of world.

valkyrie101 says:
May 22, 2010 at 5:27 pm

notsofast,
What percentage of the Chinese do you think are communists?”

It doesn’t matter- they are ruled by Communists- that’s what matters- they are controlled by Communits and must do their bidding. As the Soviet Union was ruled and controlled by Communists.

It’s not what the people believe, it’s what the rulers believe and FORCE on the people.

Look at Iran – I bet a large % would love to throw out their govt., but that does not change what Iran is.

Those old communist leaders are dying off, as China becomes farther and farther removed from their former communist self.

notsofast,
We are fighting two wars, three if you count the overall war on terror, and the enemy is, who, notsofast? Communists? Nope, hard core religious people. We beat the communists. Communism is history.

PPS) Obviously Rep. Weiner has resolved any complaints and complies with the terms of his contract (oath), so he too would have an A+ rating from the BBB, if they gave such things.

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/05/21/glenn-beck-and-goldline-the-weiner-link-meltdown-with-keith-olbermann-part-49/#idc-cover

Check it out, checkitouters.

And don’t forget to check out http://www.weinerfacts.com , THE place on the web to share facts about Congressman Anthony Weiner, and about weiners.

Communism, Socialism, Facism are now called Progressivism. Same crap; different name.

Magister says:
May 22, 2010 at 5:17 pm

But since when is selling something for a higher markup than the competition a new thing? “Go Daddy” is more expensive than other web hosts… and because it advertises more, more people know their name and are more confident. A Toyota is often more expensive than a Kia… Sony is more expensive than Magnavox… and Dr. Pepper is more expensive than Mrs. Popper (I don’t drink soda, so I’m not sure what the Dr. Pepper alternative is).

That’s the way of the world. Perhaps Goldline is more expensive… but because they’re more popular, and spend more in advertising, they’ve got that right and people will still use them. Cheaper isn’t always better.

What happened to the King? Already traveling the world again?

He’s probably Riding with the King of Rock and Roll- Elvis!

@ImNotBlue: I never said that higher prices are a bad thing and in fact, over in the other thread, I mentioned how I used to buy silver coins from my friends at what they thought was a good deal, then I’d sell them at three or four times what I paid because that was the market value.

Though, if you use the 18% figure cited in the above clip and defined by @germ on the other thread and if you use $1179 per ounce as a price, you are talking the difference between a $212 and $58 markup, if you compare Goldline to one of the services suggested by the WSJ whose commission is more inline with the industry norm.

And, if you’re purchasing the gold as an investment, the difference in the two prices are a lot to make-up just because one has been suggested by a personality that you trust and you’d like to underwrite their ad budget.

Not to mention that perhaps due to this large markup, Goldline cautions people that they should be prepared to sit on their investment for three to five years, well into the administration and if you think the nation’s fortunes will radically change after the next election, if you buy their gold today, you’re basically betting against your own political success.
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@Calvin: The 200% of melt value on antique coins may be inline with the higher markup portions of the industry and it may be okay with a novice investor, but if someone is buying these coins because they’re foreseeing a Mad Max scenario with everyone living off of their survival seeds, I don’t think the fact that the coins were minted before 1933 will matter to the black market.

@Magister: I think you’re overestimating Beck’s pitch for gold, as well as Goldline’s.

http://www.weinerfacts.com/weiner/?p=169
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ROnsuHudo

Like the ad says, it’s a way to diversify your portfolio and you shouldn’t put all your eggs in one nest. Beck says it’s not right for everyone and you should study it and pray on it. I think most people can listen to what he and Goldline say and decide for themselves.

http://www.fashionclothe.com/index.asp

My comment to Magister at 6:59 pm “is awaiting moderation” for some reason. So in case it gets deleted, I’ll say it again. Otherwise my 7:05 pm comment makes a little less sense.

@Magister: I think you’re overestimating Beck’s pitch for gold, as well as Goldline’s.

http://www.weinerfacts.com/weiner/?p=169

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ROnsuHudo

Arrgh. Mediaite! What’s wrong with my comments?

Calvin says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

May 23, 2010 at 9:26 pm