Carville obviously fears having a black man as president.

totally racist.

Maybe Mary is finally helping him see the light . Tell it , James .

My God- it took an oil spill to bring out James’ racism. Pathetic- Now we can definitively say Democrats are racists.

Actually, since we’re going with inappropriate analogies here, what James fears is the end of the slave trade down in Louisiana. See, BP is the slave master who holds the people of the Gulf as slaves to their industry. While they continue to rape their land and water ways the slaves are unable to extricate themselves from this disgraceful corporation. These folks want the govenment to stay out of this unless there is a spill. Then, they expect the government to rescue them from the spill while demanding that they stop the moritorium. Actually, it’s more like they’re suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. One more thing. Did you know that many of the fishermen down there don’t pay taxes and so they can’t prove how much they were earning. BP has balked at paying people who can’t substantiate their claims. They also don’t qualify for Unemployment Insurance because they didn’t pay into it like the rest of us. I’d say there’s a certain poetic justice to that.

writer said:
Carville obviously fears having a black man as president.

He never would have said this if the President were white.

Carville’s hollow complaints don’t mean a damn thing. Anderson has been complaining about Haitian president Preval and his corrupt government for months, but he still smiled sweetly and accepted an award from Preval recently. To be fair, Sean Penn, who also complains about the Haitian government, and Bill Clinton also accepted awards from Preval. Clinton even praised Preval.

They are all hypocrites!

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/cooper-faces-criticism-from-fellow-journalists_1152916

roxsteady said:
ee, BP is the slave master who holds the people of the Gulf as slaves to their industry.

Yes, that’s why everyone down there is trying to get a job with them.

In the lib world, those who provide jobs are slave masters. Ask Jesse Jackson who said the $16million dollar a year LeBron James was treated like a runaway slave by the Cav’s owner.

Now that’s the kind of “slavery” everyone should endure.

rox, in case you were unaware, Carville is one of yours.

Poor James. His boy is on the sidlines now. He probably feels every bit a relevant as the GOP right now. Maybe Bill could head down to the Gulf and hold a telethon for them. Oh, wait? He’s busy with Hati. Well at least they’re not asking for another Earthquake.

I’m not sure what you mean by one of yours? I know exactly who Carville is. This article states a known fact. Unlike the GOP’s commandment “Thou shalt Not Speak Ill of any Fellow Republican”, the Democrats don’t think with one brain. We’re the one’s who take Freedom of Speech literally. It’s OK to criticize fellow Democrats. We do it all the time when we think they’re wrong. See (Blanche Lincoln and Ben Nelson.)

Okay, rox, I see. It’s okay for Democrats to criticize Obama, but if anyone else does it, they’re a racist.

roxsteady said:
Thou shalt Not Speak Ill of any Fellow Republican”, the Democrats don’t think with one brain. We’re the one’s who take Freedom of Speech literally. It’s OK to criticize fellow Democrats. We do it all the time when we think they’re wrong.

So do Repubs- they just asked the head of the RNC to resign- can’t get much more independent than that.

No, if Democrats criticize Obama, that’s their right. Are you new to this country?

So you’re saying that the tea party’s criticisms of Obama are their right, and not only due to racism?

Um, they asked Steele to resign? If you’re an employer and you want to get rid of someone, do you ask them to resign, or do your fire they’re ass? It appears that they’re afraid to fire him out of fear they’ll be called racist. Now, that’s a sad state because anyone can see that he’s simply incompetent. The man is an idot and the irony is that the only reason they hired him was because he’s black. This was their answer to Obama. Does Steele remind any of you of Obama in any way? Well maybe one but, that’s my point.

Now you’re getting the idea, rox. We don’t disagree with Obama because he’s black. We do it because he’s incompetent.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. My problem with the Tea Party is that they’re full of shit. For instance, they claim that taxes are too high but, taxes are their lowest since Truman was in office. I don’t have a problem with people who disagree with the President but, it should be based in fact.

When you say incompetent could you elaborate? You know, the way I just did.

Here’s an example of what I’m talking about. The economy is still pretty bad right now and Republicans all speaking with the same brain keep reminding us that the President said the Stimulus would help keep Unemployment below 8%. Now, the President did say that yet, unemployment went as high as 9.8% but, remember that the President wanted to Stimulus to be more but, to get Republicans votes, Reid had to make it smaller. He still didn’t get their votes but, I want you to take a look at this graph and tell me when did the jobs start coming back. Was it before or after Obama took office? as I’ve said, the job market still stinks but, are we gaining jobs or losing them?

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/01/boehner-stimulus-one-job/

Well, rox, you keep pointing to Bush’s oil regulations as being to blame for the spill, but Obama has been in office for a year and a half. If there were bad regs on the books, shouldn’t Obama have changed them? Or at least have had someone look into it before now? A year and a half isn’t enough time? And after the spill, wasn’t it over a month before we even considered accepting help from other countries who’ve had success in cleaning up spills?

You just said it yourself. These were regulations and just like the votes that had to be taken to lift the CAP on oil companies liability that the GOP was blocking, these laws have to be voted on to be changed. I didn’t make up the fact the Bush and Cheny’s Energy policy was actual legislation that was passed. Think of it like the DADT law. It’s an actual law that has to be changed. By the way, you did see BP’s and the other oil companies plans for remediation during the hearings didn’t you? They were basically the same, all inadequate. Sadly, you often don’t find out that there’s a problem until something happens. Like the mining explosion. Or the Financial Regulations that’s about to be passed. While some regulations may not require votes, many will.

Carville should be careful with his words…if he keeps this up, the NAACP may pass a resolution condemning him as a racist…

By the way, that whole, not accepting help from other countries has been debunked.

Carville is absolutely right. Obama’s offshore drilling policy has killed jobs and hurt the economy.

But if you apply this kind of logic, you would need to oppose virtually all of Obama’s policies. Whenever our President has been forced to choose between creating jobs and punishing the businesses and people who do the hiring, he has always opted for class envy over prosperity. That’s why we (and he) are in the current mess.

“In fact, international offers of assistance had already been accepted
Fact Check: “[I]nternational assistance has been accepted.” In a June 23 post, FactCheck.org reported that contrary to right-wing media claims, “international assistance has been accepted.” From FactCheck.org:

Also, contrary to reports such as the one on “Fox & Friends,” international assistance has been accepted. To date, 25 countries and four international organizations have offered support in the form of skimming vessels, containment and fire boom, technical assistance and response solutions, among others. A chart provided by the State Department shows that as of June 23 five offers had been accepted and 50 were under consideration — including multiple offers from a single country or entity. One offer had been declined: France offered a chemical dispersant that is not approved for use in the United States.

State Dept.: “[T]he acceptance of international assistance we announced today did not mean to imply that international help was arriving only now.” From a June 29 Reuters report:

“The United States will accept 22 offers of assistance from 12 countries and international bodies, including two high-speed skimmers and fire containment boom from Japan,” the U.S. State Department said in a statement.

The United States has already accepted offers of assistance from the Netherlands and Norway, among others. It is also considering offers from countries as diverse as China, Kenya and Vietnam.

Overall, 27 countries have offered assistance ranging from vessels and dispersant, to fire boom and technical personnel. In most cases reimbursement would be required.

“To be clear, the acceptance of international assistance we announced today did not mean to imply that international help was arriving only now,” State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said in an e-mail.

“In fact, before today, there were 24 foreign vessels operating in the region and nine countries had provided boom, skimmers and other assistance. As early as May 11th boom arrived from Mexico, Norway and Brazil.”

There was more. A lot more but, I figured you’d get tired of reading all of it. I have to go now but, it’s been nice having a sort of civil conversation with you guys. Let’s try to do this more often. See you later!

Come on Felix! Look at the graph! Your’e slipping into fantasy land again! Buenas Tardes!

Oh, and Bias Media, the NAACP didn’t say that the Tea Party was racist. They passed a resolution saying that they TOLERATED racists. Facts, don’t have a bias. That’s why they’re called facts. There’s my ride! Gotta run!

So with a Dem majority, in a year and a half, nothing could be changed? So just how long does Obama have to be in office before he can do anything?

roxsteady said:
It appears that they’re afraid to fire him out of fear they’ll be called racist

Your side has already called them that.

roxsteady said:
Fact Check:

Fact Check has become nothing more than a BHO shill, like NPR.

Colby Hall
“wonder if its somehow related to other items currently in the news.”

Can’t it ever be about meaning what he’s actually saying?
Is the truth so rarely used, that it’s shocking when done?
Personally, i think Carville really loves LA & means exactly what he says
w/no hidden agendas.

If Bush was President, he w/all the usual suspects MSM
would be screaming
on an hourly basis from the roof tops..
As it is he ‘s only spoken out twice.

When you have to sleep with Mary Matalin every night, some things tend to “rub off”…haha. Yeah, enjoy the pun.

writer said:
So with a Dem majority, in a year and a half, nothing could be changed? So just how long does Obama have to be in office before he can do anything?

Don’t feign ignorance. You should know about this little thing called the FILIBUSTER. Democrats don’t drink from the same vat of Flavor-Aid as the GOP does. A broader coalition of democrats makes it difficult to coalesce all democrats to vote for a particular thing. All democratic members of congress are not liberals. Tired of this BS talking point.

Averreauxii said:
Tired of this BS talking point .

Hey? I resemble that remark

A broader coalition of democrats makes it difficult to coalesce all democrats to vote for a particular thing. All democratic members of congress are not liberals.
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not buying, sorry

rox-

That link says, “So there have been positive trends in terms of the unemployment rate and GDP growth since Obama took office.”

I find that hard to believe considering unemployment was below 8% before he took over. Losing jobs =/= positive trends. This may be the first time in history I’ve seen the media put a positive spin on job loss (“We lost jobs last month, but hey! It wasn’t as much as the month before that!! So that’s good!) GDP has been improving, but we’re having a jobless recovery. Why is that?

The most compelling reason is uncertainty in the marketplace due to Obama’s policies. Right now we’re waiting to see what happens to Cap & Trade, which will be a job killer if passed. The Bush Tax Cuts are set to expire at the end of the year, which will kill jobs. Businessmen (and women :p) don’t hire people unless they know the cost effectiveness of the hire. You can’t do a cost analysis when you don’t know what the cost of the hire will be. Many businesses that could otherwise expand and hire right now are sitting on capital because it would be foolish to expand if without knowing the true costs of the legislation currently in the works.

roxsteady said:
but, I want you to take a look at this graph and tell me when did the jobs start coming back. Was it before or after Obama took office? as I’ve said, the job market still stinks but, are we gaining jobs or losing them?

Rox, please don’t let the facts keep you from your fantasy:

Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940
By Julia A. Seymour
Business & Media Institute
1/8/2010 11:03:00 AM

Unemployment shot up in 2009 from 7.7 percent in January to 10.1 percent in October before settling at 10 percent in December. Behind those percentages were more than 4.1 million people who lost their jobs during the year. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703906204575027181656362948.html

As for the deficit, CBO shows that over the first three years of the Obama Presidency, 2009-2011, the federal government will borrow an estimated $3.7 trillion. THAT IS MORE THAN THE ENTIRE ACCUMULATED NATIONAL DEBT FOR THE FIRST 225 YEARS OF U.S. HISTORY. By 2019, the interest payments on this debt will be larger than the budget for education, roads and all other nondefense discretionary spending.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-02-02/news/17842521_1_tax-cuts-house-republicans-head-of-tax-policy
Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget

$3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swift
February 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion, includes a big jobs program and rolls back Bush-era tax cuts for high-income Americans. The president sidestepped any major attack on chronic deficits, which would not drop below $700 billion in the next several years.

June job losses: 125,000

Avereaux, the left likes to say that the Republicans are filibustering absolutely everything, and the Dems are powerless to stop it. Before the election of Scott Brown, they had a super majority that the GOP was virtually powerless against. So if things weren’t getting done, it was all on your beloved Dems. Not only that, but the Dems took control after the 2006 election. Yet you’re still whining that any inaction is solely due to Republicans. Peddle it somewhere else.

I love how you sidestepped the OTHER reason I gave. If there were no 60-vote filibusters, they would have had much more done. It’s easier to vote in unison in opposition than it is to vote AYE for a particular bill. Bush’s POPULAR tax cut bills did not get unanimous GOP support and they were not filibustered. The MAJOR bills the Dems had to pass this year needed 100% votes from the Senate Dems to pass (to avoid GOP filibusters.) A much harder proposition when you have Dem senators from RED states. You do not have to agree but it is fact.

In the case of oil regulations, wasn’t an Obama apointee in charge of the department that oversees the regulations? And after the spill, didn’t Obama fire her? So why did he do that if everything was still under Bush control and regulations? Wouldn’t she have been totally blameless? And how did Obama make the appointment in the first place, if the Dems are powerless to do anything?

Averreauxii said:
he MAJOR bills the Dems had to pass this year needed 100% votes from the Senate Dems to pass (to avoid GOP filibusters.)

Figures. Obama “Misrepresents” Republican 2009 Filibuster Record
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, February 12, 2010, 5:02 AM

It’s come to the point where you have to take every Obama quote and fact-check it yourself to find out if it’s true. Unfortunately, the corrupt Obamedia won’t do their job and correct this horribly dishonest man. You have to do it yourself. It’s an Obama world.

This latest “misrepresentation” comes from Hugh Hewitt, via HotAir:

After singing the sweet song of bipartisanship with the GOP, Obama proceeded to pander to the bruised feelings of Senate Democrats, assuring that it was the mean Republicans who had managed to bottle up his grand plans for reform:

Today President Obama told Senate Democrats that they had faced “enormous procedural obstacles that are unprecedented..”

“You had to cast more votes to break filibusters last year than in the entire 1950s and 1960s combined. That’s 20 years of obstruction jammed into just one.”

Not exactly. A filibuster is the successful blocking of legislation in the Senate by forcing a failed cloture vote. How many failed cloture votes occurred in 2009? Hugh had to get his abacus to count them all up:

This is astonishing. A filibuster is the successful use of 41 or more votes to prevent the closing of debate. There wasn’t a single filibuster in 2009. Not one.

The president will say anything to advance a narrative that makes him a victim of obstruction. It is clear that 2010 will be spent pivoting from his 2009 mantra of Bush’s fault to his campaign year blasts at the “do nothing Republicans.”

James is currently too emotional & naive.

I have never seen anyone do more to kill jobs than the Obama-Pelosi-Reid triumvirate. Just this week, the Democrats are dumping 2,000 pages of regulation on financial institutions. And comping up next is cap-and-tax and probably VAT and a stack of other job-destroying policies. Add on top of this all the new Obamacare taxes and mandates, the increase in capital gains tax, the increase in dividend tax, the reinstatement of the death tax, etc. etc. and there is no prospect of any meaningful job creation for a long, long time to come.

Yet the Democrats keep on hoping that the economy will pick up before the November election. If they had the slightest clue on the economy operates, they would realize that there is no chance of an economic pick-up given the anti-growth agenda they have been relentlessly pursuing for the last 18 months. The clobbering they will receive in November is totally of their own making.

Look Carville has to sleep with his wind bag of a wife every night. Enough said.

NOtsofast = Douchebag

Dave Noland said:
Dave Noland says: (Quote)

Look Carville has to sleep with his wind bag of a wife every night. Enough said.

I’m sure he feels the same of you r wife, that he’s never met

Roxsteady, you’re the one off in fantasy land. Here are the real numbers from offshore oil drilling moratorium. Lost income to employees = $57 million per month. Lost income to local suppliers = $30 million per month. Job loss = 32,000.

And all this could have been avoided by the President. But, as always, he opts for the anti-business narrative over real tangible gains in the economy.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Money/new-economy/2010/0623/Offshore-drilling-moratorium-How-much-could-it-cost-the-Gulf