I suspect many people would.

Newt is healing America by bringing all the talk show hosts together who hate him.

We’re gonna make it after all.

How many Taser hits per show is Scareborough up to?

At least he no longer gags on his own tongue while on camera.

And Joe officially announces his dementia.

But…but…but…THAT’S PSYCHOTIC!!!

Vote for the Progressive Republican, Joe!

So many teabagging fundies who claim to support small government, are simultaneously war hawks who support an expansion of the military industrial complex.

There is only one true small government candidate and that is Ron Paul.

Of course MSNBC issues a directive to support a third party candidate, as long as it splits the Republican vote.  If a liberal were to run as a third party candidate they’d be trashing them as much as they love to trash Palin.

How often must Mika get a new tetanus shot?

‘Spose they put that Hannibal mask thing on Joe for the longer breaks?

Conservatives believe the priority of any government is to provide security for it’s citizens.
Having a strong military, and a smaller (less expensive, less intrusive) government are not mutually exclusive ideals.

Your loyal followers are hanging on your every word, Morning Joe.

I don’t know of and never heard of any Joeites, but there could be some.

Joe, you’re already irrelevant.  Do you want to be deemed “enemy”?

Scarborough can call himself a “small government conservative,” but that doesn’t make it TRUE. He isn’t.

And, Chucksacramento is absolutely right, MSNBC WANTS another “Ross Perot” moment, and they’re working hard to achieve it- and Barack Obama’s re-election. 

The more the establishment rails against the candidacy of Newt Gingrich, the more I think he may be the man who can undo the structural damage that Obama and years of progressivism have done to the nation. He isn’t afraid to fight and he knows where the bodies are buried in D.C. He may be the right candidate for this time. The more people like Scaraborough oppose him, the more I support Gingrich.

That’s a most interesting notion.

Conservative Victimization Syndrome ….

Have you been with Tina from Tampa?

Beck is not as stupid as he looks. He knows that if Newt is nominated, Obama is going to stay pesident. This is the reason why they are out in full force to try and stop him. I hope they fail.

Ten great reasons NOT to vote for Ron Paul.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/04/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-paul/

I was gonna try and be the first to call Joe a RINO but I’m sure that it’s been done already. Shitballs.

The DNC and Obama’s surrogates will paint Romney as some combination of Thurston Howell, III and Gordon Geko and continue their OWS meme of “income inequality.”

With Ron Paul they’ll paint him as “the crazy uncle” and so transfixed by an “outmoded” document (the Constitution) that he will put the nation at risk (while Obama will kill all the future bin Ladens and protect the homeland, dontchaknow.) 

With Gingrich, they will go after the crony capitalism of his fees from Fannie and Freddie (all the while, risking being tarred with that same Fannie/Freddie brush). As with Reagan, they will try to paint him as unstable, regarding having his finger on the nuclear button. They can’t really do the “career politician” meme, since it opens up Obama’s career to scrutiny. 

Even as we write, David Axelrod is sending out minions to find any and all dirt on any GOP candidate and will place it with the “unofficial” remnants of “Journolist.” Do remind yourselves of just HOW Axelrod orchestrated Obama’s career moves and who he undertook to destroy.

Any man who can paint Clinton as a racist is capable of anything, any lie, any slander. Axelrod and Plouffe make Lee Atwater look like “Ned and the First Reader.” I can only hope that when they have to “defend their lives” they are tasked with the travails of Sisyphus.

“…the priority of any government is to provide security for it’s citizens…”

SOSHULIZUM!!!

Oh, by “security” you just meant fighting wars halfway around the world that benefit multinational corporations at the expense of the citizenry.

When you said “security for its citizens” you weren’t talking about social security or a comprehensive and cost effective health insurance system.

Because the only REAL citizens are multinational corporations, and they don’t need health care.

Joe, you are NOT a Conservative!!!

The only fool your fooling is yourself!!…..and Mika but that is a given!!

So, are you saying he’s a CINO?

Yeah, you’re only about 8 years late.

More like a confused LINO!

They can’t really do the “career politician” meme, since it opens up Obama’s career to scrutiny.

They’ll go with Washington insider, master of gridlock, nasty partisan that impeached the First Black Best President Ever Until Now and the fat, rich white guy who fills his pockets lobbying.

What Joe said: “If Ron Paul runs as a third-party candidate and assures that My Boy OBAMO gets re-elected, I’ll support him!”

Ron Paul / Jesse Ventura 2012
Libertarian Party with 50 State ballot access

Tic – Toc

So please enlighten us oh wise one. What exactly is a conservative these days? Please give us examples of who conservatives might be and why.

Joe, if ya want to take a look at Paul, you will have to visit the sanitarium.

he is an odd man.  Besides that he is perfect.I’d vote for him the DEM wat….twice.

Anything to get your messiah re elected huh. Now you like Beck? Weren’t you and your buddies boycotting him a few months back ? Nothing matters to you but to get Owebumbles a second term so he can finish off the economy.

No no, you Dems own the victim card.

Since, Jon Huntsman won’t get beyond New Hampshire. I would definately vote for Paul, should he run as a third party candidate. We need an honest broker in the white house. Someone who doesn’t pander to Wall Street, Special Interests, or the Jews. Newt already has his nose so far up Netanyahou’s ass, you can see it when the PM opens his mouth.

Small government intrusion in our lives, not at the sacrifice of our defense. You don’t even understand the principals yet you rail against them. And since you enjoy doing strange things to your ” mo ” why don’t you admit your latent homosexual fantasies about teabagging and just come out of your closet? Your Lib friends will be very proud of you.

Thing about Beck I couldn’t watch him because he is boring since you know what he was going to say. I have never even heard of a boycott. But he is clearly aware that Newt means Obama stays a president.

The only reason I want Obama to win is because he is black. Otherwise, it is all the same to me. 

He doesn’t know what the word means. Very few people do.

Seek help.

Did that poster say he LIKED Beck? Because I don’t see that on his post.

Bigot much?

People should be giving Ron Paul a long look right now, why is Joe acting as if Gingrich as already won the nomination, if everyone has a problem with Newt Gingrich than talk about the man who has been the most consistent politician of them all, the one who has been talking about limited government for over 30 years, the won who talks about getting into careless wars, the consequences of our actions in other countries affairs, the one who has not flip flopped multiple times within the year alone, something is very wrong with our media, they spend all their segments talking about Gingrich and the problems he has when Ron Paul is here in front of everyone and not getting talked about nearly as much as Gingrich and Romney.

Don’t know whether to laugh or cry at your response, shame of it is, is that a large portion of the electorate will vote for Owebumbles for just that reason and that reason alone.

No, just call,em as I see,um.

Amazes me that people have no idea what Conservative principles are yet they are first to ridicule them.

We believe in small, limited intrusive Government with fiscal responsibility. Also believe in personnel responsibility. We believe in upholding the rule of law including the Constitution. We believe in a strong national defense!

No Hank, I wasn’t referring to financial security.

I’m impressed by how hard the Republican Party machine is going after Newt G. I’m very interested to see if they actually take him out or if the Tea Party voters are just unreachable at this point. 

Remember, it normally makes no difference who you vote for. Clinton cut the deficit and reagan balloned it, Bush and Kenndey both started disasterous wars, etc. You may think all the dem/rep talk is meaningful. It is not. Whereas the fact that a country with such terrible recent racism having a black president is historically very significant.

I vote for Obama simply because he is black.

RINO Joe Scar “bro” would take a long look at Jay-Z and Young Jeezy if they were in the Presidential race.
BTW……Is he porking Mika?

Ron Paul is running on an ideology that is  unproven in the world. Find me a successful libertarian state and then I might give him a second thought. He’s as bad as the ideologues that  believed communism would work and look what happened to Russia after the wall fell. Now it’s a libertarian state, or oligarchy. Unregulated capitalism leads to oligarchy, a lesson that we  learned from the depression and now have to relearn after 30 years of trickle down, supply economics.

Really, or jews………………

That is so cool.
So the government shouldn’t be able to tell a woman what she can and can’t do with her body?The government should tax fairly?So we are not a christian nation?

There really is no war on christmas?

Social security??

You make it sound so simple. Thanks

I’m glad to hear it. This is my hope: The average lunatic GOP voter is too crazy to realize how unelectable Newt is.

As an Obama supporter I think this is ridiculous. There are huge differences between the parties and it’s purely ignorant to say otherwise.

But hell… I’ll take your vote. Thanks.

Joe Scarborough: If Ron Paul Runs As Third Party Candidate ‘I’ll Give Him A Long Look’

I’m sure you would Joe, I’m sure you would.

It really is simple.
Government should not be able to tell what a women does with her own body….a living human is not part of her body!!
All people should be taxed equally…including the 50%(?) who pay no federal taxes and the 10% who pay 70% of federal taxes.
Sorry, regardless what you or Oblamer think, this is a Christian Nation!!
The fact is there is a war on Christmas by the left!!
People should be able to decide for themselves whether to invest in a SS program or an alternative.

Short and sweet!!

Like I said you MADE it sound so simple……………but scratch the surface and you make things way more complicated.

for example, YOUR OPINIONS (not facts) concerning the war on xmas and this being a christian nation give people pause. Your thoughts there are medieval. 

At least you are still giving SS a chance. I’ll give you that

lololololol…youre an idiot….dont blame MSNBC for the failure of you dumbass wackjobs….MAN UP……blame yourselves…..you hobbits are always looking to blame others when you fail…..

What is “inclusive” is the propensity of the Liberals to pander to the bottom feeders to garner votes. Conservative have always fought for less government. An inclusive Constitutional ideal everyone should embrace.

The government is suppose to guarantee financial security?!! How the hell did you arrive at that conclusion?

Umm..perhaps you meant to respond old Henry??

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

Finally, it’s 3 conservative mainstream guys who’ve made sense in 2 consecutive days:

Michael Savage
Glenn Beck
Joe Scarborough

Yup.  Joe and Jesus together.

Joe’s about as relevent as his lookalike, Chaz Bono!

Perot was right.  We cannot sustain our government with no jobs to pay the bills. Maybe if he got elected, half this crap would not have occurred.

If Ron Paul runs as a third party candidate and cedes the election to Obama, I would bet Mitt Romney’s $10,000 that the GOP establishment (and a lot of ordinary voters) will make sure that his son, Rand Paul, pays dearly for his father’s mistake in future elections. “Sins of the father,” you know….

CC most of the guys running are neo-cons that believe in big fat government support of unlimited wars to guard every oil field on this planet.  Bull! And Bull again!!!! The Republican Party left me and most Americans who built this country.  I am voting for Ron Paul.  If he does not get the nomination, I vote Constitution Party.  If you mean you are a conservative, why would you vote for these phonies on the GOP? If enough people actually put some decent people in there that cared about the middle class we may have a chance to save what is left of our country.

Right on my boy.

If you listened to Ron Paul you would know his stance on these issues.  Accusing Ron Paul, or true Libertarians in general, of racism show your ignorance or intellectual dishonesty.  Allow me to address each issue individually.

1) Correct, Ron Paul values equal rights for all people, not protection of rights based on things as superficial as skin tone.  What is more racist: viewing all people as equal regardless of skin tone or creating quotas for various groups based on skin tone regardless of relative social status?

2) He has said on multiple occasions that abortion is a states rights issue.  The problems surrounding the Roe v Wade decision or numerous.  Even pro-life constitutional scholars have issues with Roe v Wade pointing to other areas of the Constitution, than indicated in the decision, which guarantee a woman’s right to choice (see “What Roe versus Wade Should Have Said,” by Balkin)

3) Federal minimum wage, Davis-Bacon Act, and Copeland Act all create a “wage floor.”  This has the effect of increasing the cost, of whatever product or service is performed, employs fewer people (as less money can be used for labor), increases the duration of any project associated with the product or service produced (as fewer people are employed).  This is economics 101: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_floor#Minimum_wage)

4) Unfair?  Those who are taxed at highest rates are the “middle class.”  Your statement that Ron Paul’s tax plan “would greatly benefit those with the highest incomes” is flat out wrong.  High income earners are able to avoid many taxes through investment, donations, and loopholes.  Those earning the least amount of money, not only don’t pay into the system, derive benefits from the system.  Their tax rate is in effect negative as they get more money than they pay into the system.  This creates a perverse incentive as there is a point, and more than likely many, where a rational actor will do less work to avoid a higher tax rate (or in the case of the wealthy and certain corporations, park money, investment, and operations overseas).  A flat tax simplifies the tax code, makes enforcing it easier, closes loopholes, and is more equitable (or should I say fair?).  This is why a flat tax is also referred to as a “fair tax.”

5) I’ll assume by environment the “economic environment” is completely ignored.  Amending and repealing laws after they have existed and their costs and benefits can be weighed (or more ideally they can be judged by Pareto efficiency) should be a sign of effective government.  Additionally many laws, particularly where energy and the environment are concerned are subject to Regulatory Capture Theory (http://techliberation.com/2010/12/19/regulatory-capture-what-the-experts-have-found/) and the result can be companies using the long arm of the government to push out competition. 

6) As the 1% to the rest of the world’s 99% (to use OWS speak) the United States is the scapegoat for many of the world’s ills.  Our “poor image” around the world has less to do with our involvement, or lack thereof in the UN, and more to do with our global engagements and triangulated relationships.  His disregard for International Law comes from his stance that the Constitution is the supreme law of our land, not to subject to or superseded by any law.  The example of the International Criminal Court selectively leaves out that Clinton’s signature made the agreement an executive agreement, it was never ratified by a two-thirds vote in the Senate and made into a treaty.  In the authors backwards world an executive branch, which is able to bypass congress in spite of what is written in the Constitution, is a good thing.

7) I believe this is one of the areas in which Ron Paul shines.  Ron Paul the private citizen is a very conservative person, Ron Paul the politician understands that in spite his own Christian beliefs, his belief in the Constitution (and libertarian principles) prevents him from legislating against any group based on class, culture, religion, or sexuality.  In addition the author quotes a law that, “Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which
presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life
style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style,” and says that proves that he is “unequivocally opposed to lifestyles other than heterosexuality.”  This is false, all is would prove (provided his uncompromising in any legislation he authors or signs) is that he disapproves of funding in this regard, which fits in line with a the principles of a “fiscal hawk.”

8)  A “living” Constitution negates the need for a written constitution.
 Had the founders desired a living constitution, there was precedent for
this in the world, English Common Law.  They codified the Constitution
precisely to prevent the perversion of contract between the people,
states, and central government by those who would become corrupted by
the power of political office.  They understood that they were not
infinitely wise and necessity may dictate alterations to the
Constitution and provided as means to alter the “interpretation” of the
Constitution, amendments.  The “living” constitution was dreamed up by
progressives to skirt actually changing to the Constitution, which is a
difficult process by design.

Additionally, this is the only argument where it is acceptable to be ignorant of and have no experience with the subject matter yet still be considered to have a valid argument.  The author says “for people to be walking around the streets with AK47′s and ‘large capacity ammunition feeding devices.’ (That just sounds scary.).”  It really isn’t for people who have experience with weapons.  Of course there is the standard line, but if we outlaw guns only outlaws will carry them.

9) Education privatization has been around for a while, and what Milton Friedman said years ago still rings true today (notice the 30 years on throwing money at the problem has not improved things, in fact things have gotten worse).  http://www.cato.org/pubs/briefs/bp-023.html

10) “Separation of church and state” is the bastardization of a Jefferson quote, not from the Constitution and was subsequently used in later supreme court cases, despite Thomas Jefferson not being a “framer.”
 

And so the fragmentation continues. Did Republicans really think that they could demand their fans believe 9 impossible things before breakfast without ultimately tearing the party apart?

For years Democrats have laughed self deprecatingly when looking at the broad spectrum (some would say “wacky”) of left-of-center voters and activists who shelter under their big tent. But these days the Republican party is supposed to accommodate libertarians like Ron Paul, loons like the Tea Party, gangsta apparatchiks like Gingrich, religious nuts of every imaginable (Christian) stripe, dumbcluck self-promoters like Palin and Bachmann, nitwits like Perry, and empty suits stuffed with money like Romney. Add into this mix the actual overlords of the party and CourtJester, Inc. as personified by Fox News, and you have a volatile mix indeed.

Add in the inevitable withering of rightwing values among the young, and the ‘Lican ship of state is headed straight for the iceberg. Can you spell “Whig?”

Grab some marshmallows, ’cause there’s going to be a bonfire tonight.

Savage is in the “conservative mainstream?”

No wonder people hate conservatives so much.

Rand is perfectly capable of wrecking his own career without outside interference.

I left the Rep party and became an indy because of Bush and the establishment…They all acted like BIG spending Democrats…..However, I will vote for whoever has the best chance of beating the current disaster in the WH…which sadly is not going to be Ron Paul. I don’t agree with many of Pauls foreign policies. Even to the point I think he is a nut on some of them.

Regardless, any of the current candidates would be a hell of a lot better then the current occupant!! A vote for a non nominee is a vote for Oblamer!!

So you’d like to return to the good ol’ days when many people lived on cat food in their old age.  Super.  And you’re fine with letting people die if they don’t have health insurance.

But you want to make sure we can continue to engage in land wars in Asia that don’t benefit the people one bit.

go newtttttttttt

Ok, I’m curious if Herman Cain was still in the race, and none of these still unsubstantiated claims had ever surfaced. What would you have done then? Stayed with Obamas failed policy’s or tried a different direction with Cain?

Better to be a crazed GOPer than a stupid Dem who would drive our country right off the cliff.

This is a fantasy created to delude people who don’t know anything. There are no countries in the world who are rich and have a small government. There has never been and there will never be. This is obviously what you should expect. I could explain why if I were in the mood but check and see if what I am saying is true or not. You will find desperately poor countries almost always have tiny governments and rich countries have massive governments.

A free market is a myth. The type you have in the US is just a way of distributing money upwards.

The reason we have not been invaded is because of a strong military presence. That is the primary role of the Federal government, to keep us safe from foreign or domestic threats.

I suppose you could argue that government providing military protection ensures domestic commerce So to that end yes, government does provide financial stability.As for the rest of your suppositions, well have another can of cat food Hank.

First, I didn’t say small government. I said smaller, less expensive vis-à-vis less wasteful spending government.

No need to explain what you think you know about economics as I am an educated man.

How do you distribute money upward? If I am the one who took the risk, invested my life savings, worked my ass off, and then created the wealth isn’t it my money? Why do you think that you are entitled to a share of my earnings? What did you do to earn it?

Go back to your tent, your OWS buddies are waiting for you.

How do you spread money upwards? Easy, have a government which the rich benefit from most, which is practically all governments. If you want to be obvious about it because you reckon you can get away with it, give corporations like oil companies subsidies. More subtly, allow rich people to dump ‘externalities’ on others. Happens all the time. Governments are usually a way to funnel money upwards by leaving the public to carry the costs. That is more or less there raison detre.

You think you are educated, but you have no clue. Don’t feel bad because everyone thinks repeating what their masters told them is ‘education’.

blah, blah, blah, blah… Once I peel away your anti-Capitalist rhetoric, you still haven’t answered my core questions.

This leads me to believe that you are not a free thinker, and therefore it is futile to correspond with you any longer.Good day…

Democrats?  No, they’re really not the ones with the victimization complex.  That would definitely be the Republicans.  (Both of you are so interesting to watch to an outsider, by the way.)

I know; I’ve been watching the news hoping for someone like him to come and inject some insanity into this election, but I think we’re already too far gone.

Once again you fail to understand my point, the Dems perpetuate / promote victimization to their followers so they will be needed to provide the handouts ( entitlements ) example: pandering to the OWSers Who feel they ” deserve ” something they’re not willing to work for vs tea party members who’d only like to keep what they earn. Victimhood keeps the voting numbers up for the Dems, think about it.

Do you know what a Progressive is? Newt, Romney and Santorum are the NeoCon Progressives.