Ingraham has made a career of being mean and using clumsy, self-serving nuance.

AT FOX “NEWS” WE SET OUT TO MULTI-TASK:
REPUBLICAN PR AND TERROR DOUGH.
BUT, HOW DARE YOU QUESTION, HOW DARE YOU ASK:
ON WHOM OUR FAVORS WE DEEM TO BESTOW?

All right , you mugs . This palooka Colmes is too rude even to be on MSNBC . Ingraham , who’s a major dish , don’t need to put up with this Cheshire cat looking fink .

This mosque issue looked so good for the republicans. But now it is falling about.

So when blacks, who vote 90%-plus for Democrats are offended by FREE SPEECH, everyone must CAPITULATE!
- but when Christians, who vote solidly GOP are offended by (mosque location) FREE SPEECH, they are called RACISTS!

Does everyone see the DISCREDITED THOUGHT PROCESSES of the INTOLERANT LEFT?

When the GOP SWEEPS in Nov. they must INVESTIGATE the Anti-White Racism & Anti-Christian Bigotry of the PROFESSIONAL LEFT!

(pssst…pass this around & get everyone out to vote 11-02-10!!)

Colmes would not answer the question about who has shed more innocent lives…the US or the Taliban. I used to put up with Colmes, thinking he was just taking the other side to fulfill his role. I no longer think that, and I will not longer tolerate him. A shameful abuse of logic, shameful lack of thought, and shameful lack of respect for this nation’s history. Colmes is toast.

Colmes- the VP of the “Blame America First Club.” The President? BHO, of course!

NORBIT said:
- but when Christians, who vote solidly GOP are offended by (mosque location) FREE SPEECH, they are called RACISTS!

Christians do not vote solidly for the GOP.

NORBIT said:
So when blacks, who vote 90%-plus for Democrats are offended by FREE SPEECH, everyone must CAPITULATE!

The only person I saw ‘capitulate’ was Dr. Laura and that was her own decision. What part of the First Amendment don’t you understand? The First Amendment does not entitle you to a radio show and it certainly does not shield you from criticism when you say something offensive.

A person once asked me in a debate “I have the freedom of speech, doesn’t that mean that I have the freedom to not hear what I don’t want to hear?”. No, it means the exact opposite.

Stephen Hogan said:
Christians do not vote solidly for the GOP. The only person I saw ‘capitulate’ was Dr. Laura and that was her own decision. What part of the First Amendment don’t you understand? The First Amendment does not entitle you to a radio show and it certainly does not shield you from criticism when you say something offensive. A person once asked me in a debate “I have the freedom of speech, doesn’t that mean that I have the freedom to not hear what I don’t want to hear?”. No, it means the exact opposite.

People were only “POLITICALLY OFFENDED” by her, because she did not use the word as a pejorative, or with any intent to disparage or offend! – Listen to the Tape!!

That brings into question the INTEGRITY of those who OSTENSIBLY “take offense” when no offense is ever intended!
-Is it a POLITICAL STRATEGY, or is it more because she is White or Jewish that “offense” was taken????

Katie Couric is such an ass. And at $15,000,000 per, an overpaid one.

The network newscast ratings for last week are in and “CBS Evening News with Katie Couric” tied its all-time low in total viewers with an average of 4.89 million tuning in during the five days.

NORBIT said:
People were only “POLITICALLY OFFENDED” by her, because she did not use the word as a pejorative, or with any intent to disparage or offend! – Listen to the Tape!!

That brings into question the INTEGRITY of those who OSTENSIBLY “take offense” when no offense is ever intended!
-Is it a POLITICAL STRATEGY, or is it more because she is White or Jewish that “offense” was taken????

Just because offense was not intended does not make the statement alright. Everyone has become offended at something even when offense was not intended at some point in their life. Are you suggesting that we should question the integrity of everyone?

People were not upset at the word itself in this instance. They were upset at the context in which she was using it. I listened to the tape. She initially used the word repeatedly and then told the woman not to take offense (offense is subjective, by the way) and to not criticize her for using the word (which is an attempt to keep the woman from expressing her offense). She then told the woman that if she could not handle racial slurs coming from her husband’s friends, then she should not marry outside of her race. It was more than the use of the word, which is what a lot of media has been focusing on.

The word in question have over 300 years of oppression, slavery, abuse and death associated with it. If you cannot see how the use of that word in this context is offensive, then I don’t know what to say.

I do find one thing interesting. Many of the people suggesting that Park51 be moved on the grounds of sensitivity are standing up for Dr. Laura after she was grossly insensitive.

NORBIT said:
Is it a POLITICAL STRATEGY, or is it more because she is White or Jewish that “offense” was taken????

Why does there have to be a conspiracy about everything? She was a mildly popular radio host that really does not have much political pull and she certainly is not running for any political office. I highly doubt your assertion that this was a ‘political strategy’.

Stephen Hogan said:
The word in question have over

Oops. That ‘have’ should be a ‘has’.

Stephen Hogan said:
Just because offense was not intended does not make the statement alright. Everyone has become offended at something even when offense was not intended at some point in their life. Are you suggesting that we should question the integrity of everyone? People were not upset at the word itself in this instance. They were upset at the context in which she was using it. I listened to the tape. She initially used the word repeatedly and then told the woman not to take offense (offense is subjective, by the way) and to not criticize her for using the word (which is an attempt to keep the woman from expressing her offense). She then told the woman that if she could not handle racial slurs coming from her husband’s friends, then she should not marry outside of her race. It was more than the use of the word, which is what a lot of media has been focusing on. The word in question have over 300 years of oppression, slavery, abuse and death associated with it. If you cannot see how the use of that word in this context is offensive, then I don’t know what to say. I do find one thing interesting. Many of the people suggesting that Park51 be moved on the grounds of sensitivity are standing up for Dr. Laura after she was grossly insensitive. Why does there have to be a conspiracy about everything? She was a mildly popular radio host that really does not have much political pull and she certainly is not running for any political office. I highly doubt your assertion that this was a ‘political strategy’.

If only the people “offended” here would grant the same empathy for those offended by the VICTORY MOSQUE!

- do you see the BLATANT Double-Standard?

NORBIT said:
So when blacks, who vote 90%-plus for Democrats are offended by FREE SPEECH, everyone must CAPITULATE!- but when Christians, who vote solidly GOP are offended by (mosque location) FREE SPEECH, they are called RACISTS! Does everyone see the DISCREDITED THOUGHT PROCESSES of the INTOLERANT LEFT? When the GOP SWEEPS in Nov. they must INVESTIGATE the Anti-White Racism & Anti-Christian Bigotry of the PROFESSIONAL LEFT! (pssst…pass this around & get everyone out to vote 11-02-10!!)

Why objection to the mosque, if the one objecting is not attributing some fault to Islam for 911? Why would the building of a mosque in an area where there are churches and other religious structures cause someone’s feelings to be hurt, unless fault is being attributed to all of Islam? Again, in 1995, in the “name of Christ”, 30K or so Islamics were killed. Other Christians came and broke that up, but should Islamics think that the killing of the Bosnian Muslims was the fault of Christianity, itself? How can moderate Islamics, who do not worship the same principles as the terrorists, be held accountable, even a little bit? Unless you want to condemn Christianity for the actions of the “Christians” in Serbia and Bosnia.

NORBIT said:
If only the people “offended” here would grant the same empathy for those offended by the VICTORY MOSQUE!

- do you see the BLATANT Double-Standard?

Yes, I do. It’s coming from both sides.

But I wouldn’t call it a ‘double standard’. To me, both are just natural occurrences in a country that people have the freedom to express themselves.

NORBIT said:
(pssst…pass this around & get everyone out to vote 11-02-10!!)

Pssst. Instead of voting based on who is racist or who is mean or who supports or doesn’t support the mosque, do some research and vote for someone who will do some good for the economy and has some concern over the job loss and can help stimulate this country. Don’t vote based on right or left ideology. Try doing that instead this year. It may surprise you.

valkyrie101 said:
Why objection to the mosque, if the one objecting is not attributing some fault to Islam for 911?

Are you saying Islam was not a cause of 9/11? Really?

valkyrie101 said:
Again, in 1995, in the “name of Christ”, 30K or so Islamics were killed.

Where does that quote come from? Who said it?

Colmes doesn’t even have an iphone4 yet? What a loser. And BTW was he a burn victim? Cuz that’s one ugly mutherfucker. Could you imagine if he and wasserman-schulz had a kid? Ewwwwwwww

Tell Alan if he keeps this up, I’m gonna tell SEAN (who has a REAL show!)! lol!

The only reason Alan was even on air is because Sean picked up his own coffee that day!!
LOL!!

Permatiltx said:
do some research and vote for someone who will do some good for the economy and has some concern over the job loss and can help stimulate this country

We’ve done the research, and based on economic statistics over the last 20 months, it is obvious that the Democrats are clueless when it comes to fixing the economy. In fact, the Democrats have taken a bad situation and made it worse. Therefore we will be voting them out of office on Nov 2.

PS: Thanks for the advice!

Alan Colmes is an alien! Put on the glasses, put on the glasses!!

There’s something very creepy about Colmes. Anyone waiting for him to show up on MSNBC had better be watching To Catch a Predator.

Pablo said:
Are you saying Islam was not a cause of 9/11? Really?

Was Christianity a cause of the slaughter of 30,000 Muslims in Bosnia?

Pablo said:
Are you saying Islam was not a cause of 9/11? Really?

I’ll say it. It’s no more responsible for 9/11 than Christianity is responsible for Klan lynchings in the past. One group within a religion does not define the religion.

Pablo said:
Where does that quote come from? Who said it?

That means they did it for religious reasons. Does it matter who it was if it was a “Christian”? Shouldn’t all of Christianity be tarred with that atrocity, according to your theory on Islam and 911? And 30K, that is a lot more than 4K.

moriarty70 said:
I’ll say it. It’s no more responsible for 9/11 than Christianity is responsible for Klan lynchings in the past. One group within a religion does not define the religion.

Bingo. You figured it out.

Azarkhan said:
We’ve done the research, and based on economic statistics over the last 20 months, it is obvious that the Democrats are clueless when it comes to fixing the economy. In fact, the Democrats have taken a bad situation and made it worse. Therefore we will be voting them out of office on Nov 2.

PS: Thanks for the advice!

That’s fine. Just make damn sure that’s the reason and not because they oppose mosques and gay marriage. And no, they didn’t make a bad situation worse. This was a bad situation from the get go, and they did help slow down a calamity. We’ve all known this double dip recession was coming. But here’s the thing, cutting taxes probably isn’t going to be the catalyst that helps our economy. The rich could give a fuck about you, and now that they can make more money by hiring outside the country and dealing more with foreign investments as opposed to doing anything for this country. And this is who the right would like to give tax breaks to. The answer would be to give tax breaks to those who are willing to increase production in the United States (they’ll need it since it is cheaper to outsource). Now, the Republican plan is the tax cuts for the rich, but the rich who serve no purpose for stimulating OUR economy does not deserve them. Granted it’s a simplistic view on my part, but I’m not going to vote for someone who supports tax cuts for the rich that aren’t doing anything to help. There needs to be regulation, Wall Street and otherwise. Technically, if someone could kill me to make more money, well, you better believe they’d do it in a heartbeat. But alas, we’ve got “government regulation” to keep that from happening (Thank God, this one guy on the street was eying my shirt, I swear). So, why not have it in other places where it could theoretically “kill” a lot of people. I think the Dems had the right idea for that, they just did shitty implementing it. I believe that no matter who was in charge, we’re going to hit this double dip, it’s just a question of who would’ve slowed it down. Again, these are the issues that should matter in the election, not the BS about mosques and gay marriage. Unless the issue about mosque and gay marriage is how can they boost our economy.

NORBIT said:
People were only “POLITICALLY OFFENDED” by her, because she did not use the word as a pejorative, or with any intent to disparage or offend! – Listen to the Tape!! That brings into question the INTEGRITY of those who OSTENSIBLY “take offense” when no offense is ever intended!-Is it a POLITICAL STRATEGY, or is it more because she is White or Jewish that “offense” was taken????

You do know that the whole First Amendment and free speech thing is pretty much that the government can’t restrict speech? In this case I don’t see the government doing anything to Dr. Laura. So what is your point exactly? A person’s rights to freedom of speech are not violated by vigorous criticism or public condemnation. So, where have Dr. Laura’s free speech rights been violated?

Permatiltx said:
And no, they didn’t make a bad situation worse. This was a bad situation from the get go, and they did help slow down a calamity.

More lies. And please, spare me your sanctimonious bullshit about mosque’s, gay’s, rich, blah, blah, blah. It’s getting real old.

valkyrie101 said:
Was Christianity a cause of the slaughter of 30,000 Muslims in Bosnia?

That’s what I’m trying to figure out. Who said they were doing that in Christ’s name? You put it in quotes up there. Who said it? It sounds decidedly un-Christian.

Shouldn’t all of Christianity be tarred with that atrocity, according to your theory on Islam and 911?

What theory is that? Who said “all of Islam”, or more correctly, all Muslims? A religion, you see, does not act. Only its adherents can act.

moriarty70 said:
I’ll say it. It’s no more responsible for 9/11 than Christianity is responsible for Klan lynchings in the past. One group within a religion does not define the religion.

Bin Laden has a much easier time finding support for his acts in the koran than the klan ever did finding support for its racism and violence in the teachings of jesus, which is one of the reasons why radical islam is such a difficult ideology to eradicate. You basically have to persuade believers that allah didn’t mean what he said. By the way, I’m not a christian, but I do recognize the fundamental differences among the major religions. They’re NOT all equally benign/harmful.

ReverseFlash said:
You do know that the whole First Amendment and free speech thing is pretty much that the government can’t restrict speech? In this case I don’t see the government doing anything to Dr. Laura. So what is your point exactly? A person’s rights to freedom of speech are not violated by vigorous criticism or public condemnation. So, where have Dr. Laura’s free speech rights been violated?

True that. I don’t see why people have such trouble figuring it out.

Phocus2 said:
Colmes would not answer the question about who has shed more innocent lives…the US or the Taliban. I used to put up with Colmes, thinking he was just taking the other side to fulfill his role. I no longer think that, and I will not longer tolerate him. A shameful abuse of logic, shameful lack of thought, and shameful lack of respect for this nation’s history. Colmes is toast.

Colmes has become a useful idiot. Is he the worst liberal on FNC? I don’t know how to compare him to Marc Lamont Hill. Colmes is a liberal apologist for even the craziest of shit. Hill has said that only white people can be racist.

Sean68 said:
Bin Laden has a much easier time finding support for his acts in the koran than the klan ever did finding support for its racism and violence in the teachings of jesus

He also has a much easier time finding justification in the teachings of leading, mainstream Islamic clerics and scholars.

Azarkhan said:
More lies. And please, spare me your sanctimonious bullshit about mosque’s, gay’s, rich, blah, blah, blah. It’s getting real old.

What were the Republican plan to pull us out of this morass?

It’s not sanctimonious at all. A lot of problems with our country deal with voting based on moral issues and not issues that actually matter to this country. I recommend reading “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” about how Kansas turned into a hard core conservative state despite the fact that the conservative economic policies have hurt the state but they vote for conservatives because they agree with their moral views. There’s more depth than that, but that is one of the general thesis. If you think the conservatives can get us out of this mess (I don’t), then vote for that reason, not because of moral issues. So, if you think I’m being sanctimonious (I’m being right), then I’m not going to change your opinion. But hopefully, more moderate people will read and think, “Maybe I should vote doing some research and not just along party lines.”

Permatiltx said:
And no, they didn’t make a bad situation worse. This was a bad situation from the get go, and they did help slow down a calamity.

When you fall down a well and hit the bottom, the fact that you’ve stopped falling so quickly doesn’t make the guy down there with the shovel, digging as fast as he can a genius.

Pablo said:
That’s what I’m trying to figure out. Who said they were doing that in Christ’s name? You put it in quotes up there. Who said it? It sounds decidedly un-Christian. What theory is that? Who said “all of Islam”, or more correctly, all Muslims? A religion, you see, does not act. Only its adherents can act.

Yes, that is why it is inappropriate to tar all of Islam with 911.

Permatiltx said:
I recommend reading “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” about how Kansas turned into a hard core conservative state despite the fact that the conservative economic policies have hurt the state but they vote for conservatives because they agree with their moral views. There’s more depth than that, but that is one of the general thesis.

Generally, it doesn’t seem to pan out.

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, that is why it is inappropriate to tar all of Islam with 911.

Val, are you going to answer my questions, or are you just going to babble? If it’s the latter, don’t bother.

Sean68 said:
Bin Laden has a much easier time finding support for his acts in the koran than the klan ever did finding support for its racism and violence in the teachings of jesus, which is one of the reasons why radical islam is such a difficult ideology to eradicate. You basically have to persuade believers that allah didn’t mean what he said. By the way, I’m not a christian, but I do recognize the fundamental differences among the major religions. They’re NOT all equally benign/harmful.

Of course they don’t all teach the same thing. While it might make it easier to find justification, if someone hates something enough, they’ll find jusification for that hate somewhere. It doesn’t matter if it’s religion, politics, history, science, etc. just because someone chalks it up to “Reason X” doesn’t mean that’s a cause of it, just a convenient scapegoat for their hatred.

moriarty70 said:
Of course they don’t all teach the same thing. While it might make it easier to find justification, if someone hates something enough, they’ll find jusification for that hate somewhere. It doesn’t matter if it’s religion, politics, history, science, etc. just because someone chalks it up to “Reason X” doesn’t mean that’s a cause of it, just a convenient scapegoat for their hatred.

You’re not terribly familiar with Islamic theology, are you?

Permatiltx said:
“Maybe I should vote doing some research and not just along party lines.”

Maybe you should.

That is the first time I saw Colmes with a set. If he keeps that up Fix News won’t have him on anymore.

Azarkhan said:
Maybe you should.

I stopped voting along party lines five years ago. Have you?

Pablo said:
You’re not terribly familiar with Islamic theology, are you?

I’m only as well-versed as the friends I’ve talked to who were raised within the Muslim faith.

Pablo says:…. I think your being disingenious. Your saying whose saying anything about Islam, but you started off with the question…”are you saying Islam was not the cause of 9/11 really?”

Thats by inference is saying you believe Islam was the cause of 9/11 is it not? Or let me be more direct, do you believe that those who caused 9/11 were acting in the belief that their faith was telling them to do this?

In fact, for those on here who believe that building a “mosque” next to Ground Zero is insensitive, I will actually state that your position most definitely seems to be that the terrorists who caused 9/11 we acting on the basis of what their faith told them to do? Is that the argument?

“You’re not terribly familiar with Islamic theology, are you?”

Pablo, in fact, has a Ph.D. in Islamic Theology from Glenn Beck University. So you lieberals would be wise not to question him on that. His hunch that smoehting “sounds decidedly un-Christian” is also likely based on the most rigorous Biblical study.

Pablo said:
Val, are you going to answer my questions, or are you just going to babble? If it’s the latter, don’t bother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims

Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter come from the same chlorinated gene pool. Laura is do-able however. Thomas Jefferson is on his way to being expunged from Texas schoolbooks.
America, what a country. I’m surprised there aren’t more Planter and Fisher surnamed Republicans. So many are nuts. By 2012, there will be no one left in the GOP to the left of Mussolini.

Isidro Garcia said:
Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter come from the same chlorinated gene pool. Laura is do-able however. Thomas Jefferson is on his way to being expunged from Texas schoolbooks.America, what a country. I’m surprised there aren’t more Planter and Fisher surnamed Republicans. So many are nuts. By 2012, there will be no one left in the GOP to the left of Mussolini.

I’m sure Laura Ingraham would be very interested in you as a potential mate.

Sean68 said:
I’m sure Laura Ingraham would be very interested in you as a potential mate.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t know what you look like or what stage you are in in your career, but if you’re hoping to have sexual contact with Laura Ingraham, you’d better get yourself knife. That’s all I’m saying.

@Phocus2, “Colmes would not answer the question about who has shed more innocent lives”

No one on the left ever dares to answer that question because the answer would not support their pro-Muslim agenda, but here are some of the terrorist acts committed by Muslims in the U.S. alone since Feb. 2009:

“Good moderate Muslim” Nidal Malik Hasan murdered 13 people and injured 30 at Ft. Hood, and Muslim Abdulhakim Muhammad murdered Private Andrew Long and injured Pvt. Quinton I. Ezeagwula at the Little Rock, AK recruiting station, Muslim grad student Abdulsalam Al-Zahrani stabbed to death Binghampton Univ. professor Richard T. Antoun.

And let’s not forget the Muslim TV station owner who beheaded his wife in Buffalo, NY for seeking a divorce, the woman in Glendale, AZ who was run over by her Muslim father because she was too “Westernized”.

There is also the attempted terrorist attack by the Christmas Day bomber.

I would not even be able to begin to list the Muslim terrorist attacks that have occurred outside the U.S. However, Muslims murdered 8 Christians in Nigeria in July 2010.

I haven’t heard much condemnation from the left about these murders, they just choose to ignore them.

OMG, who can stand to listen to Ms. Ingraham’s whiny nasal voice for even 10 minutes … let alone an hour on radio or TV?

there’s something very creepy about Colmes.

Yea….. he tells the truth!!!!!
Laura -i wanna be relevent -Ingrahm is a right wing ideologue that has her head firmly inplanted in her ass….which is where she talks out of.

hmm,two highly partisan dummies.What a treat….

FOX should give Alan enough time to put the context to the statement that America has more blood on our hands than Al-Qaeda.

Well Alan, To quote Perky’s Daughter, Who The Fuck Made Her ‘The Boss’ Of Us? Guess the Apple doesn’t fall far from the Paltrow.

THIS NATION WAS CREATED ON THE IDEA THAT THE ABUSIVE CHRISTIANS IN EUROPE HAD NO BUSINESS TELLING THEM OTHER CHRISTIANS HOW THEY SHOULD WORSHIP JESUS SO THOSE UPSET CHRISTIANS LEFT EUROPE AND CREATED A LAND WHERE RELIGIONS RULE —NOW MANY CHRISTIANS WEAK AND NEED TO KICK SOMETHING ARE BLAMING MUSLIMS FOR THERE FAILURE IN CREATING A NATION IN THE IMAGE OF CHRISTIANITY—CHRISTIANITY CANNOT MOVE FORWARD JUST AS LONG AS THESE THE IGNORANT AND NASTY OF THE BUNCH ARE SEEN IN CONTROL OF THE FAITH—UPSET WITH RADICAL NASTY MUSLIMS THEN GET UPSET WITH RADICAL NASTY CHRISTIANS—MOVE ALL OUT OF THE WAY OF HUMAN ADVANCEMENT

The Republicans are pissing off the Muslims the African Americans, the Hispanics, the middle class the seniors. etc. etc. Their base is shrinking everyday.

It seems funny that Fox never mentions that the minority owner of Fox new is paying for this community center.

Journalism? I think not. Discussion? I know not. Polemic? No–merely noise.

On mainstream TV, journalism is dead. Our comments here on this brief, inefficient and offensive exchange between Ingraham and Colmes are merely gang-dealt dollops of pointalistic poop in a pig-sty.

I feel we are lost in the US. Good luck.

WHAT ? Colmes “…checking his notes on his device?” Has anyone asked,or Alan earlier declared his opinion of Palin writing notes on her palm?

Allan Wikman
Kingston, NY

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf
Imam needs to explain contents in Koran that Americans fear. Fear causes people to avoid you, uncorrected could lead to hate. Transparence and understanding creates trust and love.
Burning the Koran is like burning down your house to get rid of termites.
If there is something wrong with your house, fix it.
The Muslims were indoctrinated into their faith by someone who felt the anger of their times and their good book displays this. This has been handed down through many generations, same as our beliefs were handed down to us.
There are two different ways to bring peace between all of us. Look for understanding. Pick the various offensive verses in the Koran and compare them to the Old Testament, then compare to the New Testament along with comparing these verses with those in the Koran. Do this in a peaceful and intelligent way. Intelligent people understand intelligent people. Don’t do this to determine which religion is right. Do it in the name of non-violence towards one another. Do it for understanding and accepting one another view with the intentions of maintaining peace with all.