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Lawrence O’Donnell Blasts Alan Grayson Over Tax Cuts: “Be An Adult About This!”

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Last night Lawrence O’Donnell got into a very interesting and entertaining row with Rep. Alan Grayson over the extension Bush tax cuts. The back-and-forth between the host and the outgoing Florida Congressman started when Grayson confirmed that he would be voting against the tax bill, then launched into his inimitable style of aggressive rhetoric, attacking both the GOP and President Obama. After Grayson declared who he thought would be hit hardest if these tax cuts were not enacted, O’Donnell exasperatedly exclaimed “Wrong!” and things got even more heated from there.

We’ve long been fans of the job that Mr. O’Donnell does on his new show, largely because he is not afraid to call things as he sees them, and often surprises viewers. Case in point, the following segment, in which O’Donnell seems to set a trap for Grayson, only so that he can admonish him publicly (and score valuable points for moderates who don’t care for Grayson’s histrionics).

To be fair, in the opening part of the segment, Grayson makes a decent point. Comparing income taxes on the poor to the rich is apples and oranges. Hedge fund billionaires get most of their income from investments, which is what Grayson’s talking about. But O’Donnell takes great exception with some of Grayson’s assertions, and pointedly chides him to “be an adult about this.”

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  • http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/ jamesalfred

    Credit to O’Donnell for asking Grayson to be an adult about anything. Could there be a voice of reason at MSNBC?

    I want a Corvette for Christmas and I think my odds are actually better than the odds of Grayson acting like an adult.

    http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/

  • The Real Royal King

    “Blasts” is not a strong enough word.

    Good for you, Lawrence! Grayson is an ill-informed, petulant braggart.

  • Atticus Draco


    WHOA! O’Donnell went ALL ‘O’Reilly’ on Grayson’s losin’ ass
    LMAO

  • notsofast

    Why should Grayson be an adult? All he is is a self-aggrandizing ahole.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    is it just me or does grayson sorta look like carl from “Slingblade”?

    if it weren’t too obvious, i would have liked to see the tax cuts be extended for 18 months.

  • Harry Flashman

    Thatb was fun. Grayson had obviously become accustomed to the hosts at MSNBC basically being head bobbers for whatever idiocy he was spoting at the time.

    He didn’t get that this time, much to his dismay. He acted as though he had been slapped when O’Donnell said, “Wrong! Stop right there!”

    I’m no fan of O’Donnell’s but – good for him.

  • tjames

    I am truly impressed by this guy. Sounds like he should make a move to Fox News!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Alan better be careful. He’s jeapardizing the future he has as an A-MESS-NBC host.

  • tatboy

    O’Donnell is simply protecting/defending is boy (Obama) from those that are looking to hurt him politically. He had a choice to make… abandon Obama or attack a lame duck, unpopular, nutjob, who is on his way out the door. He chose option #2. Grayson is a wounded animal in the death throws of his political career. Anyone who has spent and time hunting knows how dangerous a wounded animal is.

  • Magister

    Not only did O’Donnell “lay a trap”, he obviously laid in wait.

  • Atticus Draco

    tatboy said:
    O’Donnell is simply protecting/defending is boy (Obama) from those that are looking to hurt him politically. He had a choice to make… abandon Obama or attack a lame duck, unpopular, nutjob, who is on his way out the door. He chose option #2. Grayson is a wounded animal in the death throws of his political career. Anyone who has spent and time hunting knows how dangerous a wounded animal is.

    Grayson,, a sacrificial lamb?
    lol
    Now that’s cynical

  • Oregon Conservative

    I kinda have respect for O’Donnell, the socialism not withstanding.

    Alan Grayson has a face only a mother could love.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    Notice how indignant O’Donnell gets when Grayson mentions that GE and Microsoft’s corporate taxes would be slashed a 100 percent. O’Donnell is a typical corporate shill for the failure that is the Obama adminstration. O’Donnell should probably now, even though he doesn’t that a middle class tax cut was already passed by the House and is sitting in limbo while the Senate ignores it. So instead they demand that the tax cut be for millionaires and billionaires too, not to mention the insane corporate tax rate which is being slashed out of existance.

    What a disgusting corporate shill O’Donnell is.

  • Albert

    O’Donnell was not Grayson get away with dodging the main point. and held his feet to the fire and did a great job doing it! Bravo!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    Magister said:
    Not only did O’Donnell “lay a trap”, he obviously laid in wait.

    He laid no trap, O’Donnell is wrong on the facts and did his typical O’Reilly screamfest to hide that. He is the worst host on MSNBC including Joe ‘Dead Intern’ Scarborough.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    The first time ever I have agreed with O’Donnell
    The last miracle this large happened about this time of
    year 2010 years ago.
    Allegedly!
    “Tis the Season—-

  • realitycheck

    Here’s the thing about ODonnell… I disagree with his politics, but he puts together a good argument. I can easily listen to his ideas without an over the top rediculous personality in the way. Election night was a low point for him, but more often than not he is tolerable. I wonder if they (Olbermann & Greyson )will let him back on the air tonight?

  • CosmosDan

    I think Grayson was an adult throughout the interview.

    Nobody wants the tax rate to go up on the poor and middle class , but it’s completely wrong to lay the blame at the feet of the Dems who oppose Obama’s deal. ODonnell is saying , Grayson and the Dems have to be responsible because the GOP won’t be? What the hell kind of non logic is that?

    I guess everyone missed the point that Grayson made early on about the deal making being slipped into this bill without any reasonable discussion and without letting the public know. I would think the conservatives would hate this deal as much as the Dems do. What’s basically happening is rather than spend less money and take in a little more from those who can afford it, we’re spending a lot more money , and taking in a lot less. How is that fiscally responsible in any way?

  • Cecelia

    Greyson would make a great stage actor. His looks are very striking.

    He could play all the Shakespearean villain roles.

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Alan better be careful. He’s jeapardizing the future he has as an A-MESS-NBC host.

    One the contrary, Michelle-in-Utah. He represents the changing voice of MSNBC.

    By the way, it’s ” jeopardizing”.

  • Tucker P.

    Greyson does the usual finger pointing . He jumped from income tax to Dividends . Dems remind me of a grade schooler that gets caught cheating on a test . And says you can’t single me out cause johnny was cheating too . Thats not fair .
    This country is feeling good about one thing . And that is throwing the bum’s out in 2010 . And get the rest of you in 2012 . The Dem’s are only throwing fuel on they’re own fire . They just don’t understand there is a America out there that is not as dumb as they expect them to be . And they not only want tax cuts . They want the Government cut . So playing the Card that their big Government needs the money is just dumb . Yet they keep playing it .

  • Probably NOT wrong

    I just watched this clip again to see if I missed anything.
    I did!
    Did you hear Grayson say “I thought this (MSNBC) was
    supposed the be the Intelligent Network?”
    Dum, Dumb, Dummy, Dumber, and Dumbest could have been
    a more accurate title for that segment!
    Lean Forward (__!__)

  • weinone

    Sorry Tucker P., read the article, it points out that comparing income taxes to dividends IS fair when you are talking about the top 2%. I usually like ODonnell but he pretends that Grayson wants to let all the cuts expire to make a point. There is near universal agreement that the lower and middle class cuts need to be extended. The Republicans are the ones say all or none. My wife and I make about $100k, out taxes would go up $3000, a major hit for us but it would be worth it to see Rush pay $2.6mil.

  • BFD

    Lawrence needs to watch that temper or it will be his undoing.

    Twas painful to watch..

  • The ReaI Royal King

    Alan Grayson and the other Democrats would rarher have everyones income tax go up rather than back President Obama’s deal.

    Shame on them. Grayson just wants to stick it to his constituents who voted him out of office.

  • The ReaI Royal King

    weinone said:
    My wife and I make about $100k, out taxes would go up $3000, a major hit for us but it would be worth it to see Rush pay $2.6mil.

    So you don’t care about the people below your income who will be hurt? Just to spite Rush?

    Rich Bitch.

  • Magister

    Jonathan Scott said:
    He laid no trap, O’Donnell is wrong on the facts and did his typical O’Reilly screamfest to hide that. He is the worst host on MSNBC including Joe ‘Dead Intern’ Scarborough.

    The “lay a trap” was simply borrowing Colby’s phrase and my contribution was the “laid in wait” which was based on the way Larry pounced, as soon as the Congressman had spoke.

    As to whether the use of “bracket” implies the “income tax” and whether dividend income qualifies as a bracket could be a question of semantics, I will point out that Grayson also erred by saying the 100% expensing of “investments” hadn’t been floated. As has been reported over the past couple of days, Obama made the suggestionl in September and just for fun, I’ve pulled-up the NYTimes preview of the Cleveland speech where it was proposed. (Notice that the corporate tax break is the headline of the piece)

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Grayson (D) Florida is the face of what’s wrong in the ongoing debate. You just can’t follow the guys thinking. It’s another hanging Chad moment how he lapses to the liberal playbook of it’s my money! The left nuts just don’t get it that November 2nd never happened.

  • Obeezy

    Grayson will be a host on MSNBC 2 weeks after he is booted from office…between him, Shultzy, the sex deviant, and Olbermann they will have quite a lineup to show America what the country would be like with Dems in charge….Whining, child-like know it alls..Paving the way for a republican onslaught in 2010…love it

  • Just4thefax

    The ReaI Royal King said:
    Alan Grayson and the other Democrats would rarher have everyones income tax go up rather than back President Obama’s deal. Shame on them. Grayson just wants to stick it to his constituents who voted him out of office.

    Fact: That was painful I gave you a thumbs up. Never.. never… again…

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King said:
    One the contrary, Michelle-in-Utah. He represents the changing voice of MSNBC. By the way, it’s ” jeopardizing”.

    You realize she was talking about Grayson, not O’Donnell, right?

    Oh, and as for “changing voice,” you realize that Ed, Olbermann, and Maddow all essentially agreed with Grayson, and attacked Obama over this, right? A slightly difference voice, perhaps… but a network “change,” no.

  • stoogedudes

    tatboy said:
    O’Donnell is simply protecting/defending is boy (Obama) from those that are looking to hurt him politically. He had a choice to make… abandon Obama or attack a lame duck, unpopular, nutjob, who is on his way out the door. He chose option #2. Grayson is a wounded animal in the death throws of his political career. Anyone who has spent and time hunting knows how dangerous a wounded animal is.

    You apparently didn’t see O’Donnell’s interview the other night with Jane Hamsher, Adam Green of Boldprogressives.org, and another liberal commenter. He heartily argued against them as well. They aren’t lame ducks. What was his reason for laying into them?

    I agree with Atticus, that was one of the more cynical posts I’ve read on this site, and THAT’S saying something!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    “We’ve long been fans of the job that Mr. O’Donnell does on his new show, largely because he is not afraid to call things as he sees them, and often surprises viewers”

    Come on now Colby. You like O’Donnel because he pushes a far left agenda. Lots of people on Fox aren’t afraid to “call things like they see them”, but that usually sends you in to outrage.

  • The Real Royal King

    weinone said:
    Sorry Tucker P., read the article, it points out that comparing income taxes to dividends IS fair when you are talking about the top 2%. I usually like ODonnell but he pretends that Grayson wants to let all the cuts expire to make a point. There is near universal agreement that the lower and middle class cuts need to be extended. The Republicans are the ones say all or none. My wife and I make about $100k, out taxes would go up $3000, a major hit for us but it would be worth it to see Rush pay $2.6mil.

    Please note that it is not I who used that term. Alas, my avatar and name have been co-opted by a puerile nincompoop devoid of morals or ethics. You can enjoy his posts under “Writer” and several other names. I call him in the composite Kumquat.

    On behalf of gentlemen throughout the world, I apologize for this individual who brings disgrace upon our gender.

  • Alz

    Grayson is a nutcase. He reminds me of one of the aliens in Men In Black:
    http://www.alicia-logic.com/capspages/caps_viewall.asp?hidName=Vincent+D'Onofrio

  • victor the crab

    Alan Grayson is a whackjob. But there are far too plenty over at the Republicans who are like that, if not worse. Any of you right wing nutjob whackadoodles here have a problem with that?

  • Just4thefax

    victor the crab said:
    Alan Grayson is a whackjob. But there are far too plenty over at the Republicans who are like that, if not worse. Any of you right wing nutjob whackadoodles here have a problem with that?

    Fact: They make a crème for what ails you. Crab dude.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jon-Martin/43100610 Jon Martin

    Oregon Conservative said:
    I kinda have respect for O’Donnell, the socialism not withstanding.

    Alan Grayson has a face only a mother could love.

    What socialism? Sarah Palin is a sociliast you know… Alaska received money from oil-drilling and spread the wealth to the citizens. Not through jobs, but through hand-outs.

    Stop calling people socialists when your party sleeps with one.

  • cjd ohio 1

    martin, odonnell said he was a socialist, get with the program

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    martin, odonnell said he was a socialist, get with the program

    The reason he said he was a socialist was to try and insult Glenn Greenwald. Lawrence O’Donnell is an establishment Democrat who worked in the Senate. He is protecting his interests, which he does every night on his pathetic show.

  • cjd ohio 1

    and? so he isn’t a socialist then?

  • Just4thefax

    stoogedudes said:
    You apparently didn’t see O’Donnell’s interview the other night with Jane Hamsher, Adam Green of Boldprogressives.org, and another liberal commenter. He heartily argued against them as well. They aren’t lame ducks. What was his reason for laying into them? I agree with Atticus, that was one of the more cynical posts I’ve read on this site, and THAT’S saying something!

    Fact: You’re a stooge!

  • notsofast

    What is so funny is how MSNBC built this dullard Grayson up and now that he lost his re-election, the libs throw him to the wolves.

    LOL

    Sucker!

  • Tucker P.

    weinone said:
    Sorry Tucker P., read the article, it points out that comparing income taxes to dividends IS fair when you are talking about the top 2%. I usually like ODonnell but he pretends that Grayson wants to let all the cuts expire to make a point. There is near universal agreement that the lower and middle class cuts need to be extended. The Republicans are the ones say all or none. My wife and I make about $100k, out taxes would go up $3000, a major hit for us but it would be worth it to see Rush pay $2.6mil.

    What difference does it make if your income comes from a job or a dividend . You work to invest to free your self of labor only to have to pay more to succeed . I rather see you blow your 3000 on popcorn then send it to the fed . Popcorn could use the job . And Maybe Rush will buy a yacht . Well ,people work to build yachts , Great !
    I’m for anything that least funds this out of control Fed . Till it can get it’s all three houses in order . Cut Government !

  • CAconservative

    Held hostage by a minority government? How could that be possible without the help of the opposing political party? The real problem, Mr.Grayson, is a government that is no longer based on Constitutional responsibility but, has developed the corrupted idea that we, the public, are here only to work and feed the absurdity going on in Washington. That somehow just because a person has become quasi-wealthy, through their own whits, and hard work that somehow they owe a larger portion of their hard earned dollars than those that don’t? That presumption is inherently absurd! That friends, is known as the “entitlement mentality”. A mentality that should be reprehensible to every legal American citizen!

  • Some_Dude

    It makes for good news, I guess, but I think everyone knew exactly how this would turn out and what the fall out would look like. Obama is a concession loving moderate, despite the hyperbolic claims many make about him. We on the left would not be happy about him giving in to meaningless high wage tax cuts just to make sure practically 90% of the rest of the nation would keep theirs.

  • felixw

    Interesting to see all these Lefties who attacked the Republicans for not offering bipartisan support of Obama’s bills, no go ballistic when the President finally offers, for the very first time in his administration, a truly bipartisan bill. Hey voters, meet the new ‘Party of No.’

  • david r

    They ought to get Grayson on the Ed Show. There would be a distinct cone of ignorance hovering overhead.

  • gareth

    O’Donnell may think he is correct on the 10% going to 15% for those couples earning less than $16,750, but if he is the expert on taxes he will note that ‘every couple’ who has an income greater than $16,750 will also have to pay at the 15% ($837), even those billionares. Rates for those couples earning less than $68,000 ( the majority of americans) will only see their tax increase by that $837. I consider that amount worth paying just to make the more wealthy pay the share they were paying prior to 2001. All people in the news should at least present the facts and then let their listeners make informed decisions.

  • Albert

    tjames said:
    I am truly impressed by this guy. Sounds like he should make a move to Fox News!

    I agree with you on O’Donnell but I am hoping he has found his home on MSNBC.

    CosmosDan said:
    I think Grayson was an adult throughout the interview.

    Nobody wants the tax rate to go up on the poor and middle class , but it’s completely wrong to lay the blame at the feet of the Dems who oppose Obama’s deal. ODonnell is saying , Grayson and the Dems have to be responsible because the GOP won’t be? What the hell kind of non logic is that?

    I guess everyone missed the point that Grayson made early on about the deal making being slipped into this bill without any reasonable discussion and without letting the public know. I would think the conservatives would hate this deal as much as the Dems do. What’s basically happening is rather than spend less money and take in a little more from those who can afford it, we’re spending a lot more money , and taking in a lot less. How is that fiscally responsible in any way?

    This is the best annalist I have read through all on this blog that seem to sum it all up correctly!

  • http://none pyrope

    The Real Royal King said:
    “Blasts” is not a strong enough word. Good for you, Lawrence! Grayson is an ill-informed, petulant braggart.

    At least he’s not a socialist…or is he?

  • http://none pyrope

    Albert said:
    This is the best annalist I have read through all on this blog that seem to sum it all up correctly!

    You’re one of the best “analist” I’ve seen in a while, too. Ever consider a career in proctology?

  • http://none pyrope

    Some_Dude said:
    Obama is a concession loving moderate

    Where were his concessions on -0bamacare?

    Where were his concessions on START?

    Where were his concessions on showing some transparency as he promised?

    Moderate? The desciple of William Ayers, Jerimiah Wright, Saul Alansky a “moderate?” This was a joke, right?

  • http://none pyrope

    Oregon Conservative said:
    Alan Grayson has a face only a mother could love.

    What, a mother baboon?

  • http://none pyrope

    Atticus Draco said:
    Grayson,, a sacrificial lamb?
    lol
    Now that’s cynical

    It’s also an insult to all lambs around the globe.

  • http://none pyrope

    Oh well, come January 2011 we won’t have ol’ Grayson to kick around anymore. But there are PLENTY of others.

  • Nahu Tuk

    Yeah -0′Donnell, there needs to be one adult there and it’s your turn to try and be one.

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