Brit Hume is one of the most reasonable pundits in the media period!

Once you’ve lost Brit Hume, you’ve the sonorous windbag vote.

Please Sarah “Blood Libel” Palin run! It would really bring this country together around a common dislike of people from Alaska.

Kind of?? She is like Chenyobal, Three Mile Island, Love Canal and that movie with Cher kind of radioactive. The Republicans should see if they can put her under Yucca Mountain at this point. Now would be the time to do so. Since the whole world is pretty much against her.

Hume and Kristol BOTH said Palin damaged herself this week.

UPDATE:

THE NUMBER OF PUNDITS AND POLITICIANS WHO THINK A MORE CIVIL DISCOURSE IS DESIRABLE: 326

THE NUMBER OF PUNDITS AND POLITICIANS WHO THINK EVERYTHING IS JUST PEACHY BECAUSE IN THE OLD DAYS WE HAD DUELS: Sarah Palin.

Oh snap! Brit, you too?

SuperChuñdy said:
Once you’ve lost Brit Hume, you’ve the sonorous windbag vote.

Please Sarah “Blood Libel” Palin run! It would really bring this country together around a common dislike of people from Alaska.

Yeah – wouldn’t want to run any ads showing media articles and talking heads where she was considered an accessory to murder would we? Bring on 2012. I want to see Obama without his teleprompter.

Color Me Badd said:
Kind of?? She is like Chenyobal, Three Mile Island, Love Canal and that movie with Cher kind of radioactive. The Republicans should see if they can put her under Yucca Mountain at this point. Now would be the time to do so. Since the whole world is pretty much against her.

Didn’t you face tax evasion? Or was it just lots of alimony for illegitimate children? I forgot.

If Palin runs for president her future will be decided by the debates.
NOTHING that has been said or done this week will have ANY effect on the election.

Obama’s record will insure his defeat. He will veto the bills that the republicans pass that are supported by the people. No matter how many times Bill O’Reilly says Obama is smart the fact is that he is NOT.

If your lone defender is pat Buchanan, what does that tell about pat?

What has been done to Sarah has never been done to any politician in the past and will never be done again. Brit is sort of correct, Matt is not though in his assessment of who has and who hasn’t supported her. Palin did just right in claiming a blood libel because that is exactly what it was.

Palin should continue to speak out and fight back, more loud and more often. What went down this past week with the liberal media attacking her is a disgrace to the profession of journalists, and the sooner ya’ll realize that the better off you will be.

As someone on fox said it yesterday – the media would have taken apart where she placed semi-colons in her speech had she not said “a blood libel”

Juan has it wrong, Sarah did need to speak out, the media just should have given her video full coverage and fair coverage, not snippits and then went on to attempt to assassinate her politically.

Media sucks these days, and payback will be a bitch, and there will be payback. Not too much trust left in abccbsnbcmsnbccnnnytimesetc.

gordonbloyershow said:
If Palin runs for president her future will be decided by the debates.
NOTHING that has been said or done this week will have ANY effect on the election.

Obama’s record will insure his defeat. He will veto the bills that the republicans pass that are supported by the people. No matter how many times Bill O’Reilly says Obama is smart the fact is that he is NOT.

Housing crisis, immigration crisis, unemployment crisis, oil crisis, teacher union crisis, health care crisis and tax increase crisis….and they worry about this video. Hahahahaha

BFD said:
Hume and Kristol BOTH said Palin damaged herself this week. UPDATE: THE NUMBER OF PUNDITS AND POLITICIANS WHO THINK A MORE CIVIL DISCOURSE IS DESIRABLE: 326 THE NUMBER OF PUNDITS AND POLITICIANS WHO THINK EVERYTHING IS JUST PEACHY BECAUSE IN THE OLD DAYS WE HAD DUELS: Sarah Palin.

I thought you would figure out by now that making up stuff doesn’t work anymore. Wait a minute, didn’t that shooter in Arizona say things he just made up? You and him have a lot in common.

gordonbloyershow said:
NOTHING that has been said or done this week will have ANY effect on the election.

Says the guy who swore repeatedly, right up until the end, that Christine O’Donnell was going to win.

Save your predictions. They suck.

BFD said:
Says the guy who swore repeatedly, right up until the end, that Christine O’Donnell was going to win.

Save your predictions. They suck.

Last I checked – the Republican Party did win in DE. We got a RINO out. And tons more will be gone in 2012. We’re on the hunt!

WCinWI said:
Housing crisis, immigration crisis, unemployment crisis, oil crisis, teacher union crisis, health care crisis and tax increase crisis….and they worry about this video. Hahahahaha

Damn, that’s a lot of crisis’s.

Sounds like we have a crisis crisis.

I don’t think Brit or anybody else that criticized Palin’s video actually watched. It was a far better and more realistic speech than Obama’s.

WCinWI said:
Last I checked – the Republican Party did win in DE.

I didn’t sat that. I said “Christine O’Donnell”.

Read much?

TangledThorns said:
I don’t think Brit or anybody else that criticized Palin’s video actually watched. It was a far better and more realistic speech than Obama’s.

You can’t be seriously suggesting Kristol, Hume, Jeb Bush, Pawlenty and Hume didn’t watch her video.

You can’t. That would be insane.

“The Sarah Palin problem really is a problem that she has largely, I think through no fault of her own, become kind of radioactive. And it does mean that when she is in a situation like this where she’s the focus of national attention, she must be extremely careful about how she reacts to it.”

Brit Hume said:
…I think through no fault of her own…

What a load of shit! She is one of the biggest demagogues on the right! That is being disingenuous Brit. There’s a reason Mitt Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty et al are not being savaged. They don’t feel a need to demonize their opponents with hyperbolic incendiary rhetoric. When you become a lightning rod, expect to be struck!

WCinWI said:
Didn’t you face tax evasion? Or was it just lots of alimony for illegitimate children? I forgot.

What kind of a person are you resulting to ad hominem attacks against the man? What does anything you posted there have to do with the topic at hand?

BFD said:
Damn, that’s a lot of crisis’s.

Sounds like we have a crisis crisis.

It’s amazing what negative trajectory the D Party has put the US. That’s a lot of dung for the R’s to clean up. But don’t worry, this is one Party that will rock.

Gasket said:
“The Sarah Palin problem really is a problem that she has largely, I think through no fault of her own, become kind of radioactive. And it does mean that when she is in a situation like this where she’s the focus of national attention, she must be extremely careful about how she reacts to it.”

What a load of shit! She is one of the biggest demagogues on the right! That is being disingenuous Brit. There’s a reason Mitt Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty et al are not being savaged. They don’t feel a need to demonize their opponents with hyperbolic incendiary rhetoric. When you become a lightning rod, expect to be struck!

What kind of a person are you resulting to ad hominem attacks against the man? What does anything you posted there have to do with the topic at hand?

It’s interesting when someone talks about rhetoric and then swears in his own rant. Breathe. In. Now out. In again. Now out.

Perhaps pick up exercising. Endorphines do wonders for depression.

gordonbloyershow said:
If Palin runs for president her future will be decided by the debates.

No it will not. People already know her views. Those NEGATIVE numbers did not come from nowhere. Not a single pundit would back up your dubious proclamations. This woman is in a deep trench that it would take her 10 years to reverse those numbers.

NOTHING that has been said or done this week will have ANY effect on the election.

Yes, if she doesn’t run.

He will veto the bills that the republicans pass that are supported by the people. No matter how many times Bill O’Reilly says Obama is smart the fact is that he is NOT.

What bills? Republicans in congress are already backing out of their promises even before their 2nd week of running the house! They have just realized the responsibilities of governing. They are already blaming Democrats for the Republican’s own future failures.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47656.html

Obama is so stupid, his approval numbers after a November shellacking went UP. So freaking dumb the guy is he passed majority of his legislative agenda in the past 2 years. So flipping dumb!

WCinWI said:
It’s interesting when someone talks about rhetoric and then swears in his own rant. Breathe. In. Now out. In again. Now out.

Perhaps pick up exercising. Endorphines do wonders for depression.

I am not a politician or hold any public office. I do not need to temper my views or watch my rhetoric when critiquing pundits.

Gasket said:
What a load of shit! She is one of the biggest demagogues on the right! That is being disingenuous Brit. There’s a reason Mitt Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty et al are not being savaged. They don’t feel a need to demonize their opponents with hyperbolic incendiary rhetoric. When you become a lightning rod, expect to be struck! What kind of a person are you resulting to ad hominem attacks against the man? What does anything you posted there have to do with the topic at hand?

As I asked in another thread:

Who knew that suggesting you inspired mass murder, was “just politics?”

Remember folks… suggesting that Palin caused murder, is acceptable (or at least, non-apology worthy) dialog. However, criticism of President Obama, for any reason, EVEN policy, is racist.

Gasket said:
What bills? Republicans in congress are already backing out of their promises even before their 2nd week of running the house! They have just realized the responsibilities of governing. They are already blaming Democrats for the Republican’s own future failures.http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47656.html

Did you read the article you linked to? Did you understand it?

The point is that as much as the right is going to try to do certain things, there’s a limit on how much they can actually do, because they don’t hold all the cards. That’s the point. It’s not spin, and it’s not backing off anything… it’s just logic.

Do you really not understand that, or are you willfully ignorant?

Obama is so stupid, his approval numbers after a November shellacking went UP. So freaking dumb the guy is he passed majority of his legislative agenda in the past 2 years. So flipping dumb!

After he negotiated with Republicans, and voted for a tax cut along with the right… his numbers went up. He upset the left with that, remember? So I’m not sure how excited you should really be about those numbers. Seems that taking a step to the right boosted him, not losing the election.

Oh, and his passing of his agenda in the past 2 years is great for him… but it hasn’t won him any favors among the moderates. The recognize that despite saying he’d focus on jobs, he didn’t. That’s going to be a tough issue for him to overcome in the 2012 election.

WCinWI said:
Yeah – wouldn’t want to run any ads showing media articles and talking heads where she was considered an accessory to murder would we? Bring on 2012. I want to see Obama without his teleprompter.

ahhhhh HELLLLOOOOOO .. he beat the stuffing off Palin and mcain for the Presidency of the USA….w/o a teleprompter lol

WCinWI said:
Last I checked – the Republican Party did win in DE. We got a RINO out. And tons more will be gone in 2012. We’re on the hunt!

No you did not. You had someone who would have voted with you 3 out of 4 times. Yet, you preferred someone who would vote with you 0% of the time. his would have been understandable if you didn’t know about it before hand, but you did. You were warned, cautioned about being myopic with ideological purism in mind. You didn’t listen when the likes of Krauthammer and Karl Rove warned against that buffoonery. You lost a sure seat. Just like you did in Colorado & Nevada. The great thing about 2012 is that you will repeat those same mistakes.

No – He beat Bush.

WCinWI said:
Yeah – wouldn’t want to run any ads showing media articles and talking heads where she was considered an accessory to murder would we? Bring on 2012. I want to see Obama without his teleprompter.

it turns out he’s pretty good the other night and a lot of people, both left and right, agree.
btw, was palin’s speech on her hand or a teleprompter?

Gasket said:
No you did not. You had someone who would have voted with you 3 out of 4 times. Yet, you preferred someone who would vote with you 0% of the time. his would have been understandable if you didn’t know about it before hand, but you did. You were warned, cautioned about being myopic with ideological purism in mind. You didn’t listen when the likes of Krauthammer and Karl Rove warned against that buffoonery. You lost a sure seat. Just like you did in Colorado & Nevada. The great thing about 2012 is that you will repeat those same mistakes.

Last I checked, I didn’t vote in CO, DE and NV.

Please place your hostility at life elsewhere.

Poll says the country is EVENLY divided whether heated language had something to do with the tragedy….

http://imgur.com/e53ef

And of course when you think “heated Language” you think Sarah Palin.

Sarah got punked!

ChiliPeppersFan said:
it turns out he’s pretty good the other night and a lot of people, both left and right, agree.
btw, was palin’s speech on her hand or a teleprompter?

I never said that he gave a bad speech. I merely am stating that he has high unemployment numbers and other problems to address in 2012.

BFD said:
Poll says the country is EVENLY divided whether heated language had something to do with the tragedy….

http://imgur.com/e53ef

And of course when you think “heated Language” you think Sarah Palin.

Sarah got punked!

The only polling data that matters is the one concerning debt and unemployment.

gordonbloyershow said:
If Palin runs for president her future will be decided by the debates.
NOTHING that has been said or done this week will have ANY effect on the election.

Obama’s record will insure his defeat. He will veto the bills that the republicans pass that are supported by the people. No matter how many times Bill O’Reilly says Obama is smart the fact is that he is NOT.

Her future has already been decided. She has about as much chance of becoming president as you do serving in the military.

gordonbloyershow said:
I thought you would figure out by now that making up stuff doesn’t work anymore. Wait a minute, didn’t that shooter in Arizona say things he just made up? You and him have a lot in common.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pwUsH-ung84/TSb4QDx4j8I/AAAAAAAAD0U/Lfd4jaXHgCM/s1600/DogCartoonAlexGregory.gif

WCinWI said:
I never said that he gave a bad speech. I merely am stating that he has high unemployment numbers and other problems to address in 2012.

what you merely stated was how you wondered how he would do without his teleprompter.
he also wasn’t using one at the republican retreat (has it been a year already?) when he cleaned the floor with your guys.
you were merely trying to be a wiseass, so i ask you again, was palin reading notes off her hand or off of a teleprompter?

ChiliPeppersFan said:
was palin reading notes off her hand or off of a teleprompter?

If you look carefully at her eyeglasses you can see the reflection of the teleprompter. lmfao

Hume says….”through no fault of her own…”

Now that really is hilarious and Hume doesn’t strike me as someone with any sense of humor.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
what you merely stated was how you wondered how he would do without his teleprompter.
he also wasn’t using one at the republican retreat (has it been a year already?) when he cleaned the floor with your guys.
you were merely trying to be a wiseass, so i ask you again, was palin reading notes off her hand or off of a teleprompter?

Smiles. :)

BFD said:
If you look carefully at her eyeglasses you can see the reflection of the teleprompter. lmfao

Smiles to you too.

BFD said:
If you look carefully at her eyeglasses you can see the reflection of the teleprompter. lmfao

http://imgur.com/NJorx

BFD said:
http://imgur.com/NJorx

Who cares if she used a teleprompter. Our President doesn’t know how many states there are or how to pronounce corpsman.

BFD said:
http://imgur.com/NJorx

LOL

Gasket said:
No you did not. You had someone who would have voted with you 3 out of 4 times. Yet, you preferred someone who would vote with you 0% of the time. his would have been understandable if you didn’t know about it before hand, but you did. You were warned, cautioned about being myopic with ideological purism in mind. You didn’t listen when the likes of Krauthammer and Karl Rove warned against that buffoonery. You lost a sure seat. Just like you did in Colorado & Nevada. The great thing about 2012 is that you will repeat those same mistakes.

You have a point, but I would ask you to take a finer look, along the lines of your own analysis.

Consider the big government GOP versus true, small government principles. You are correct that they had someone who would vote with the big government GOP 3 out of 4 times. But this was someone who would not vote with anything principled that a true, small government candidate would. So, the 3/4 you think was lost was actually a loss only to the establishment, big government GOP.

Real stands on principle (aka: avoiding sellouts) often takes more than one election.

ImNotBlue said:
As I asked in another thread:

Who knew that suggesting you inspired mass murder, was “just politics?”

It’s not? Is it ok for Rush to call POTUS Imam-In-Chief? How about media figures on the right calling him Terrorist-In-Chief? Was it “just politics” when Palin inferred Obama’s associations with murderers? How about inferring that POTUS is a criminal? Is it “just politics” when it comes from GOP members of congress?

Remember folks… suggesting that Palin caused murder, is acceptable (or at least, non-apology worthy) dialog.

Who said it was? Did I?

However, criticism of President Obama, for any reason, EVEN policy, is racist.

You are being hyperbolic. It’s not racist, but, when you inject his race/ethnicity when critiquing it becomes racist. When Rush criticizes the President on policy and includes the word “reparations” it becomes racist. Don’t you understand that?

Did you read the article you linked to? Did you understand it?
…
Do you really not understand that, or are you willfully ignorant?

I linked to the article, did I not? Why would I refer to it if I had not read and comprehended it you sanctimonious prick?

The point is that as much as the right is going to try to do certain things, there’s a limit on how much they can actually do, because they don’t hold all the cards. That’s the point. It’s not spin, and it’s not backing off anything… it’s just logic.

Yes, but that “logic” was not presented to the voting masses who expected them to completely change course in DC. It’s duplicity and no amount of sophistry coming from you will be able to spin that. They are covering their asses.

After he negotiated with Republicans, and voted for a tax cut along with the right… his numbers went up. He upset the left with that, remember? So I’m not sure how excited you should really be about those numbers. Seems that taking a step to the right boosted him, not losing the election.

Maybe you should read what I was responding to before making premature deductions. By the way, thank you for proving my earlier point that Obama is “not dumb” — the point I was reinforcing. **sighs**

Oh, and his passing of his agenda in the past 2 years is great for him… but it hasn’t won him any favors among the moderates. The recognize that despite saying he’d focus on jobs, he didn’t. That’s going to be a tough issue for him to overcome in the 2012 election.

Moderates swing every election, the electorate WILL be different in 2012 and so will the dynamics of the jobs situation. Not to mention the GOP has poor candidates. Yes, Obama does have a good chance for re-election from any objective persons eyes. Even with the heavy negative assaults on him in 2010, his numbers didn’t move. (See Gallup or Rasmussen if you think I’m making it up.) If you want to debate civilly with me, get rid of your pompous attitude. I’ll reciprocate.

WCinWI said:
Who cares if she used a teleprompter.

You’re the one who brought up teleprompters, braniac…

WCinWI said:
Bring on 2012. I want to see Obama without his teleprompter.

BFD said:
Poll says the country is EVENLY divided whether heated language had something to do with the tragedy….

http://imgur.com/e53ef

And of course when you think “heated Language” you think Sarah Palin.

Sarah got punked!

doesn’t really help her cause when this is played when they talk about the rhetoric.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs

BFD said:
You’re the one who brought up teleprompters, braniac…

WCinWI said:
Bring on 2012. I want to see Obama without his teleprompter.

Yes. You know how to use the quoting feature. I do want to see him without his teleprompter. I don’t mind when the Prez uses the teleprompter in his weekly addresses.

BFD said:
http://imgur.com/NJorx

lol

ChiliPeppersFan said:
doesn’t really help her cause when this is played when they talk about the rhetoric.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs

If Giffords had real concern, she had the ability to call Palin and put in a personal request to take it down.

Giffords used to be a Republican so I’m sure there’s not that much ill will on Giffords being 1 of the 2 that kept her seat.

Hume is a tool of the big-government GOP establishment.

Palin is a weird revolutionary from that. The GOP wishes McCain had never chosen her. Mostly because she represents competition for them.

I do think Palin means well, but I don’t think she has any clue about the history of the warfare state, and I don’t think she’s likely to figure it out, much less change it. The core of the Tea Party movement is libertarian, and I think even if Palin spends years honestly studying our situation with an open mind, it will take years for her to “get it.” So, while I think she’s not the disaster of the typical, big government GOP, she’s not the right person to lead the principled Tea Partiers. Not even close. She would do well listen to people like Ron Paul, who truly understand the issues, and then to direct her support to such people.

WCinWI said:
Yes. You know how to use the quoting feature. I do want to see him without his teleprompter. I don’t mind when the Prez uses the teleprompter in his weekly addresses.

If you just make a detailed list of when it is and is not appropriate to use a teleprompter it would be much easier for me to have a discussion with you.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

BFD

SP really didn’t have to respond to the hyperbolic, hysterical rants from the left who were just trying to get Americans to forget the left’s 2 year failure since BHO was elected.

Americans had already dismissed their shill and moronic arguments.

” Few U.S. Voters Blame Guns, Rhetoric For Ariz. Shooting, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds”

Saturday’s shooting of Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, in which six people were killed, could not have been prevented, 40 percent of American voters say in a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Another 23 percent blame the mental health system, while 15 percent say it was due to heated political rhetoric and 9 percent attribute the tragedy to lax gun control. “

Just_MC said:
You have a point, but I would ask you to take a finer look, along the lines of your own analysis.

Consider the big government GOP versus true, small government principles. You are correct that they had someone who would vote with the big government GOP 3 out of 4 times. But this was someone who would not vote with anything principled that a true, small government candidate would. So, the 3/4 you think was lost was actually a loss only to the establishment, big government GOP.

Real stands on principle (aka: avoiding sellouts) often takes more than one election.

I heed your point but you need POLICY as law to further your agenda — whatever it is. You can not get that POLICY on the books without the legislators. 60 votes is needed in the Senate to pass any major legislation. I am not sure how being ideologically rigid advances that course. There will never be 60 far right or 60 far left members in the US Senate. Ever1 Most Americans lie in the middle. It’s called PRAGMATISM.

Just_MC said:
Hume is a tool of the big-government GOP establishment.

Palin is a weird revolutionary from that. The GOP wishes McCain had never chosen her. Mostly because she represents competition for them.

I do think Palin means well, but I don’t think she has any clue about the history of the warfare state, and I don’t think she’s likely to figure it out, much less change it. The core of the Tea Party movement is libertarian, and I think even if Palin spends years honestly studying our situation with an open mind, it will take years for her to “get it.” So, while I think she’s not the disaster of the typical, big government GOP, she’s not the right person to lead the principled Tea Partiers. Not even close. She would do well listen to people like Ron Paul, who truly understand the issues, and then to direct her support to such people.

I think Palin’s the right mix of libertarian and conservative cred. I’m not convinced that I want her as Prez yet. I’d rather her be in an administration and then run for Presidency later on. If she would run, she’d choose someone like West as her VP. He’s got the military cred that she needs. Or I’d see her as the type to bring in a Democrat as a way to bridge the two sides.

My dream ticket is a Hillary – Palin just for the shear fun of it all.

She’s got the base.
She’ll have the conservative gays.
She’ll have conservative men….some easier than others.
She’ll have some Democrats that are moderate.
She’ll have some of the indies.
The rest won’t be easy but it’s possible to run with as I don’t think the jobs will turn around as fast as people say.

From my understanding, maintaining the taxes didn’t do enough for small businesses.

gordonbloyershow said:
If Palin runs for president her future will be decided by the debates.
NOTHING that has been said or done this week will have ANY effect on the election.

What does Palin say whenever she is asked about the possibility of a run for President?
She is getting a feel for “the lay of the land?”

Guess what… SOME THINGS that have been said or done this week have had SOME effect on “the lay of the land” and what they are saying is Palin will NEVER make it to the debates.

Palin,Election,Done. Like she ever really intended on it in the first place; c’mon, pull your head out of your ass.

Never underestimate, Sarah.

Gasket said:
I heed your point but you need POLICY as law to further your agenda — whatever it is. You can not get that POLICY on the books without the legislators. 60 votes is needed in the Senate to pass any major legislation. I am not sure how being ideologically rigid advances that course. There will never be 60 far right or 60 far left members in the US Senate. Ever1 Most Americans lie in the middle. It’s called PRAGMATISM.

Obama didn’t have policy when he took the seat. He had a record of voting present.

From my understanding, most of the US is of a libertarian bent.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/145463/Democratic-Party-Drops-2010-Tying-Year-Low.aspx

BFD said:
If you just make a detailed list of when it is and is not appropriate to use a teleprompter it would be much easier for me to have a discussion with you.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

BFD

That would require actual discussion to occur. And I don’t really need to talk with a jokester. :)

valkyrie101 said:
Never underestimate, Sarah.

The problem is that people consistently overestimate her and she continues to be, well. Palin. I’m sorry but she has zero chance of ever becoming president. A Fox “News” pundit, sure, president, not so much.

SarahP. said:
The problem is that people consistently overestimate her and she continues to be, well. Palin. I’m sorry but she has zero chance of ever becoming president. A Fox “News” pundit, sure, president, not so much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSdFIDygFwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Greg said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSdFIDygFwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

And there you have it.

SarahP. said:
And there you have it.

Good stuff… I wish the sweet lady all the best as she talks at various lenses.

WCinWI said:
Obama didn’t have policy when he took the seat. He had a record of voting present.

From my understanding, most of the US is of a libertarian bent.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/145463/Democratic-Party-Drops-2010-Tying-Year-Low.aspx

I don’t think you understood my post and I’m not saying this as a put-down. My statement had nothing to do with presidential candidacy, but rather — the shaping of the US congress. Yes, Obama did not have his own signature policy “cred” from the US Senate, but neither did McCain and he had been there for 2 decades. For a presidential run, it’s about messaging and optics. Don’t do anything embarassing on the campaign trail, don’t have skeletons in thy closet and have a coherent easy to understand platform to run on. Have a policy idea and articulate it to the voters. Obama was very successful in doing that in 2008.

About ideology, I will disagree with the notion that most Americans are libertarian from that poll. You could infer party identity is down. No big surprise since Americans will have an amalgam of viewpoints on different things that can not be separated into two columns. Therefore, most tend to vote for the candidate closest to their views. Of course you also have your partisans who will vary in degree of ideology. Most Americans don’t even know what being a libertarian is. I think there’s a conflation with being dissatisfied/disappointed/skeptical with the feds and libertarianism. Americans love handouts and social safety nets, although they would never admit to it. It’s the reason why the support for things like medicare is high & bi-partisan. No Republican with the hope of winning would run on a medicare/medicaid elimination platform. Even the major tea party candidates in a very anti-establishment “anti-big government” election season who were nuanced on this position had to backpedal when explicitly questioned about their positions.

The day of the tragety they came out and said she was finished. I said she would come back as she has before. Even conservatives laughed at me. Shes mostly back already one week later. I think I will sit back and see what happens next, she isn’t finished yet. For myself I am not sure she should run or can win but I don’t think her response to this tragety will have any great impact. I do know that when I think she is going away and we need to start looking at others the left attacks her again and I pay attention to her again. If you guys would quit attacking her she would not be so popular.

Ajolily said:
The day of the tragety they came out and said she was finished. I said she would come back as she has before. Even conservatives laughed at me. Shes mostly back already one week later. I think I will sit back and see what happens next, she isn’t finished yet. For myself I am not sure she should run or can win but I don’t think her response to this tragety will have any great impact. I do know that when I think she is going away and we need to start looking at others the left attacks her again and I pay attention to her again. If you guys would quit attacking her she would not be so popular.

She is finished, has been for a long time, but not due to the “tragedy’ but rather simply because she can not tie her shoes without written instructions. It’s really as simple as that.

Gasket said:
Americans love handouts and social safety nets, although they would never admit to it. It’s the reason why the support for things like medicare is high & bi-partisan. No Republican with the hope of winning would run on a medicare/medicaid elimination platform. Even the major tea party candidates in a very anti-establishment “anti-big government” election season who were nuanced on this position had to backpedal when explicitly questioned about their positions.

That sounds like someone crowing over getting a neighbor hooked on crack. But that’s exactly the same as getting them hooked on dependency.

Thanks for your honesty, Gasket, but Americans ARE awakening to being victims of the anti-American Left. And you KNOW it. If Sarah Palin were as inconsequential as you people like to pretend, you wouldn’t care whether she runs for President or not.

Proof? Why is there little or no rage launched against Jan Brewer, the Conservative governor of Arizona? How ’bout Michele Bachmann? …………………because they don’t scare the crap out of the anti-American Left. Sarah Palin, however, drives sheer terror into the hearts of the anti-American Left, and that’s why it’s vital for you to destroy her.

SarahP. said:
She is finished, has been for a long time, but not due to the “tragedy’ but rather simply because she can not tie her shoes without written instructions. It’s really as simple as that.

Here is an article written by Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.
As posted in comments on Greta’s article referencing the MOVEON ad about Sarah Palin.
The last 45 of my 66 years I’ve spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here’s the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It’s not about persona, style, rhetoric, it’s about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I’m about to mention here.
1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor’s office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican’s “Corrupt Bastards Club” (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, “la la la la” (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.
2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called “ACES.” Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, “don’t let the door hit you in the stern on your way out.” They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.
3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor’s office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as “pork.” She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the “when-hell-freezes-over” stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we’ll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor’s jet because it was extravagant.
Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor’s cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning – I imagine – that she’s packing heat herself). I’m still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.
4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed “gosh and golly” mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn’t impress you, then you’re trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.
5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn’t start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.
6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that’s just a cover-up. I’m still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won’t be holding my breath.
By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn’t let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Should’a known better.
You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media, along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents’ wives.

Yes you so wish she was done but you arn’t getting your wish. The country could not be luckier than if she chooses to run and wins. She is a doer. She is unstoppable. An impressive person. Very impressive.

Ajolily said:
Here is an article written by Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.As posted in comments on Greta’s article referencing the MOVEON ad about Sarah Palin.The last 45 of my 66 years I’ve spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here’s the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It’s not about persona, style, rhetoric, it’s about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I’m about to mention here.1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor’s office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican’s “Corrupt Bastards Club” (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, “la la la la” (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called “ACES.” Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, “don’t let the door hit you in the stern on your way out.” They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor’s office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as “pork.” She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the “when-hell-freezes-over” stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we’ll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor’s jet because it was extravagant.Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor’s cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning – I imagine – that she’s packing heat herself). I’m still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed “gosh and golly” mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn’t impress you, then you’re trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn’t start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that’s just a cover-up. I’m still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won’t be holding my breath.By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn’t let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Should’a known better.You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media, along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents’ wives. Yes you so wish she was done but you arn’t getting your wish. The country could not be luckier than if she chooses to run and wins. She is a doer. She is unstoppable. An impressive person. Very impressive.

Sorry meant to add it is very impressive for a woman who can’t tie her shoes. What is the problem SarahP, you can’t carry on a dialog? You must resort always to inane insults.

Ajolily said:
Here is an article written by Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.
As posted in comments on Greta’s article referencing the MOVEON ad about Sarah Palin.
The last 45 of my 66 years I’ve spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here’s the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It’s not about persona, style, rhetoric, it’s about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I’m about to mention here.
1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor’s office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican’s “Corrupt Bastards Club” (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, “la la la la” (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.
2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called “ACES.” Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, “don’t let the door hit you in the stern on your way out.” They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.
3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor’s office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as “pork.” She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the “when-hell-freezes-over” stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we’ll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor’s jet because it was extravagant.
Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor’s cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning – I imagine – that she’s packing heat herself). I’m still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.
4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed “gosh and golly” mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn’t impress you, then you’re trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.
5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn’t start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.
6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that’s just a cover-up. I’m still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won’t be holding my breath.
By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn’t let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Should’a known better.
You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media, along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents’ wives.

Yes you so wish she was done but you arn’t getting your wish. The country could not be luckier than if she chooses to run and wins. She is a doer. She is unstoppable. An impressive person. Very impressive.

Tee Hee!

Ajolily said:

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/sarah-palins-accomplishments/

Ajolily said:
Here is an article written by Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.
As posted in comments on Greta’s article referencing the MOVEON ad about Sarah Palin.
The last 45 of my 66 years I’ve spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here’s the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It’s not about persona, style, rhetoric, it’s about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I’m about to mention here.
1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor’s office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican’s “Corrupt Bastards Club” (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, “la la la la” (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.
2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called “ACES.” Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, “don’t let the door hit you in the stern on your way out.” They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.
3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor’s office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as “pork.” She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the “when-hell-freezes-over” stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we’ll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor’s jet because it was extravagant.
Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor’s cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning – I imagine – that she’s packing heat herself). I’m still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.
4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed “gosh and golly” mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn’t impress you, then you’re trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.
5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn’t start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.
6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that’s just a cover-up. I’m still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won’t be holding my breath.
By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn’t let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Should’a known better.
You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media, along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents’ wives.

Yes you so wish she was done but you arn’t getting your wish. The country could not be luckier than if she chooses to run and wins. She is a doer. She is unstoppable. An impressive person. Very impressive.

Like I said, she’s done. Overcooked it you will. Sorry you wrote so much that is really so much blather.

SarahP. said:
she’s done.

She’ll be done when at least one news day/cycle goes by without one headline featuring her, and she’ll be done when weird fringe types like you post on the internet with different names and icons. Quite frankly, I’m looking forward to that day.

Kird said:
She’ll be done when at least one news day/cycle goes by without one headline featuring her, and she’ll be done when weird fringe types like you post on the internet with different names and icons. Quite frankly, I’m looking forward to that day.

No asshole, she’s been done for a long time whether your sorry ass likes it or not. Okay dip shit?

SarahP. said:
No asshole, she’s been done for a long time whether your sorry ass likes it or not. Okay dip shit?

I’m thrilled by your acumen, and your inability to grasp what I wrote.

SarahP. said:
No asshole, she’s been done for a long time whether your sorry ass likes it or not. Okay dip shit?

SarahP your responses are juvenile. You remind me of my grandchildren. “Mom, David hit me.” “He hit me first” “No I didn’t he hit ME first” “Your an idiot” “No your an idiot” “No you are” and on and on and on. Couple more on here do that to.

Ajolily said:
SarahP your responses are juvenile. You remind me of my grandchildren. “Mom, David hit me.” “He hit me first” “No I didn’t he hit ME first” “Your an idiot” “No your an idiot” “No you are” and on and on and on. Couple more on here do that to.

The thing that strikes me is the paradoxical manner in which “SarahP” makes her “argument” that Palin is “done.” If Palin were done, what would be the need to troll this site brandishing a mocking user-name and image continuously posting Palin’s done?

I think the headline is misleading – Brit is saying she is radioactive, but prefaces it with “through no fault of her own.” That is to say, the left-wing hack attacks on Sarah Palin have been what’s made her radioactive and so “polarizing.” The left in this country is going to realize sooner rather than later they’re currently writing their own obits (no pun intended) as credible sources for anything. Perhaps this has already happened, but there’s been a terrible price we’ve paid as a country.

MsUnderestimated said:
The left in this country is going to realize sooner rather than later they’re currently writing their own obits (no pun intended) as credible sources for anything.

Off hand, by the words of the President himself, Krugman and Kos plus minions are “done” as legitimate voices.

Gasket said:
I heed your point but you need POLICY as law to further your agenda — whatever it is. You can not get that POLICY on the books without the legislators. 60 votes is needed in the Senate to pass any major legislation. I am not sure how being ideologically rigid advances that course. There will never be 60 far right or 60 far left members in the US Senate. Ever1 Most Americans lie in the middle. It’s called PRAGMATISM.

I appreciate what you mean, but the fallacy of the “middle” is the problem. The establishment GOP and the Democrats are both STATISTS. They do not respect individual liberty, and they consider the individual and the fruits of his labor as theirs for the taking. So, nothing is less pragmatic than supporting one of the two, or worse, compromise. If we are to change anything, we much support principle. If that fails, and we go with the compromise you describe, we will simply collapse. Odds are that’s what will happen anyway, but it is good to get the word out on the situation so that when the collapse happens, people will understand why and rebuild based on Constitutional principles rather than statist ones. Collapse will ingrain self reliance many places where it does not exist now.

“…through no fault of her own.” Really, Brit Hume?

Sure, not all of her critics have been fair to her….but she cant go around spewing partisan red meat and then think nobody’s going to have a problem with her.

Just_MC said:
If we are to change anything, we much support principle. If that fails, and we go with the compromise you describe, we will simply collapse.

The question that comes to mind when someone tells me we should support compromise, is to ask, “what amount of BAD do you consider a GOOD thing?”

Kird said:
Off hand, by the words of the President himself, Krugman and Kos plus minions are “done” as legitimate voices.

Yeah, that would be “off hand” alright.

SarahP. said:
Yeah, that would be “off hand” alright.

Dude, you’re a psycho..

Kird said:
Dude, you’re a psycho..

Dude, you are a cross-dresser.

Davo said:
The question that comes to mind when someone tells me we should support compromise, is to ask, “what amount of BAD do you consider a GOOD thing?”

That’s what ideologues do. Ideologues never win. Even the Constitution was a compromise after vigorous debates. You can never get anything through via staunch rigidity. I’m sorry but 300, 200 or even 100 million people do not think the exact same way you do. Labeling everything that’s antithetical to your principles as “evil” or “bad” poisons the well of good will and no common ground can be sought. There’s no way you can legislate with that mindset. There are some issues you can draw a line through the sand, but most, you can not. There’s no demarcated boundary where you can draw that line. Taxes is a good example. What is a “good” tax rate and what is “bad” one? Where do you draw the line? That’s different than debating the validity of the death penalty.

Just_MC said:
I appreciate what you mean, but the fallacy of the “middle” is the problem. The establishment GOP and the Democrats are both STATISTS. They do not respect individual liberty, and they consider the individual and the fruits of his labor as theirs for the taking. So, nothing is less pragmatic than supporting one of the two, or worse, compromise. If we are to change anything, we much support principle. If that fails, and we go with the compromise you describe, we will simply collapse. Odds are that’s what will happen anyway, but it is good to get the word out on the situation so that when the collapse happens, people will understand why and rebuild based on Constitutional principles rather than statist ones. Collapse will ingrain self reliance many places where it does not exist now.

I can agree with this but it is the PEOPLE who elect them. Those politicians are just the reflection of the electorate. Why else would they vote the same people to congress term after term after term? About the middle, I don’t think it’s a fallacy — maybe a misnomer. It doesn’t t necessarily mean they have to be in the “middle” or hold the moderate position of every issue. There are lots of people whose views don’t fall perfectly into two columns. Many in this country are not partisans. In a diverse, polylithic country such as the USA, the more discriminating you become with your profile, the smaller the electorate pool becomes. It’s common sense. That’s the poison of rigidity if the end goal is legislative success.

MsUnderestimated said:
I think the headline is misleading – Brit is saying she is radioactive, but prefaces it with “through no fault of her own.” That is to say, the left-wing hack attacks on Sarah Palin have been what’s made her radioactive and so “polarizing.” The left in this country is going to realize sooner rather than later they’re currently writing their own obits (no pun intended) as credible sources for anything. Perhaps this has already happened, but there’s been a terrible price we’ve paid as a country.

How is the headline wrong? He did say she was. You may agree or disagree with Brit Hume’s premise but the headline is valid. You read the article to get the context.

Gasket said:
That’s what ideologues do. Ideologues never win. Even the Constitution was a compromise after vigorous debates. You can never get anything through via staunch rigidity. I’m sorry but 300, 200 or even 100 million people do not think the exact same way you do. Labeling everything that’s antithetical to your principles as “evil” or “bad” poisons the well of good will and no common ground can be sought. There’s no way you can legislate with that mindset.

Everyone doesn’t have trouble identifying good and evil. And the Constitution is the consensus of agreement after much honest thought and debate by our framers. If you think otherwise, just try and imagine it’s being created in today’s political climate.. It’s objectivity is clear but is assaulted regularly when it becomes inconvenient to the desires of the anti-American Left.

However, the discussion on compromise was in reference to the current attempt by Democrats to maintain their one-way street, where they get treated with respect by Republicans after telling those same Republicans and the American people for the last 4 years to sit down and shut up. Thanks for you input, but I’ll stick with “no compromise” for the time being. You must forgive me, but I have this thing about 2-way streets………….

Davo said:
That sounds like someone crowing over getting a neighbor hooked on crack. But that’s exactly the same as getting them hooked on dependency.

Thanks for your honesty, Gasket, but Americans ARE awakening to being victims of the anti-American Left. And you KNOW it. If Sarah Palin were as inconsequential as you people like to pretend, you wouldn’t care whether she runs for President or not.

Proof? Why is there little or no rage launched against Jan Brewer, the Conservative governor of Arizona? How ’bout Michele Bachmann? …………………because they don’t scare the crap out of the anti-American Left. Sarah Palin, however, drives sheer terror into the hearts of the anti-American Left, and that’s why it’s vital for you to destroy her.

Your prejudgments befuddle me. You presume I like the welfare state. I don’t. Even though I am left of center, I do not support the safety net structure as it exists today. I would like to reduce it and have more people be independent. I don’t agree with how the GOP wants to go about it.
Palin gets animus because: 1) She was indeed running for the highest office when she agreed to be the VP running-mate of McCain. The fear/anger by the left to this fact is not manufactured, it’s legitimate. The lady has ambitions for higher office. The other two ladies you mentioned have no such aspirations. Secondly, Sarah Palin has made it her goal to antagonize the left and the “liberal media complex” for the past two years so she effectively gets the same rage directed towards her. Combine 1 and 2 and you have a lethal concoction. Effectively, she made her own bed so now she has to lie in it. I honestly think she doesn’t believe in most of the things she says if you parse through her Alaskan political record. JMHO.

Davo said:
Everyone doesn’t have trouble identifying good and evil.

Who said that? I didn’t. I have a problem with YOUR definition of WHAT is evil.

And the Constitution is the consensus of agreement after much honest thought and debate by our framers.

….and what do you call that again? COMPROMISE. Say it with me…..COMPROMISE! It’s not such a bad word.
Thanks for proving my point. Stick to your guns, I don’t give a shit..

Gasket said:
Sarah Palin has made it her goal to antagonize the left and the “liberal media complex” for the past two years so she effectively gets the same rage directed towards her.

Your memory is crippled by listening to the constant drone of Palin-hate. Palin was left to simply being a popular running mate for unpopular John McCain for approximately 3 days. That’s how long it took Democrats to cast aside all their phony “concerns” for women’s rights, children, and the sanctity of the family in order to launch an unprecedented and unbridled assault on Palin,………………for the simple reason that she was everything Liberals told women they needed to be, except that she wasn’t an anti-American Leftist. How dare her come right out and state nonsense about personal responsibility and American pride. Why, she “needed” destroying.

Palin has angered the Left even more by not cowering away from them, but standing up to them as the strong person she clearly is. No sir……………..all the initial “antagonizing” was done with complete and shameless, reckless abandon by the anti-American Left. In response, Sarah Palin has simply stood up to them.

Davo said:
Palin has angered the Left even more by not cowering away from them, but standing up to them as the strong person she clearly is

All Palin has done is play the victim. Is that standing up to the left? All she does is whine about how she’s treated. Good Grief man are you blind with your love for Palin? You keep screeching about how the Tea Party just wants to protect the Constitution. Is that why they keep wanting to change it? Get a clue, or maybe you’re to far gone.

Obama has been the recipient of some of the most baseless and vicious stuff I have ever seen. Some of it from brit hume himself ,Compared to Obama, Palin’s attacks are children’s stuff.

Davo said:
Your memory is crippled by listening to the constant drone of Palin-hate. Palin was left to simply being a popular running mate for unpopular John McCain for approximately 3 days. That’s how long it took Democrats to cast aside all their phony “concerns” for women’s rights, children, and the sanctity of the family in order to launch an unprecedented and unbridled assault on Palin,………………for the simple reason that she was everything Liberals told women they needed to be, except that she wasn’t an anti-American Leftist. How dare her come right out and state nonsense about personal responsibility and American pride. Why, she “needed” destroying.

Palin has angered the Left even more by not cowering away from them, but standing up to them as the strong person she clearly is. No sir……………..all the initial “antagonizing” was done with complete and shameless, reckless abandon by the anti-American Left. In response, Sarah Palin has simply stood up to them.

what a dumbass this davo is – Brit Hume said of Sarah Palin, “She has been subject to some of the most vicious and venomous media coverage, adverse media coverage of any public figure I have ever seen.”Every bit of it brought upon herself by her own words and actions.
,I think what presents the biggest problem for Palin and Pox is the fact that more Americans’ eyes are on her now than ever before, and the foreign media has largely condemned her. They have got to be having lots of backroom meetings in which they’re discussing how to deal with this. I can see foreigners delivering trash cans full of shoes to a future President Palin who would visit their country, and I can see them laughing her off any stage on which she would appear.Now that Palin is getting a dose of her own medicine, she doesn’t like the taste of it. She’s been on a one-woman crusade against the president and Pox has helped her to do to the president what he now laments is being done to Palin.If Palin doesn’t deserve the “venomous media coverage, adverse media coverage” then neither does President Obama. The major difference between the president and Palin is that Palin deserves every bit of what she is getting.

BFD said:
Says the guy who swore repeatedly, right up until the end, that Christine O’Donnell was going to win. Save your predictions. They suck.

Why don’t you post the time I said O’Donnell would win. Can’t be done. You can’t get away with your lies here. Produce the comments. LOL

Why do we care what the OPINION of a commentator is when we’ve got the STATISTICS?

“A new national study among 1,437 self-reported Democrats, Republicans and Independents revealed that Americans indicated that Sarah Palin was more sincere and believable after viewing her speech in response to the shootings in Tucson…”
http://mediacurves.com/Politics/SarahPalinonTucson/Index.cfm

Also see: http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/15/quotes-of-the-day-570/

CanofSand said:
“A new national study among 1,437 self-reported Democrats, Republicans and Independents revealed that Americans indicated that Sarah Palin was more sincere and believable after viewing her speech in response to the shootings in Tucson…”

That poll only showed Republicans thought she was more sincere. The Democrats and Indepents didn’t get much over 25%.

Plus at the end Democats and independents were below 25%.

gordonbloyershow said:
Why don’t you post the time I said O’Donnell would win. Can’t be done. You can’t get away with your lies here. Produce the comments. LOL

No need. I have a VERY good memory. Ask michelle. lol

Sorry, you can’t rewrite the past.

I do remember the context though. It was when the media was calling her out for her stupidity and you said the more they do that the more she is guaranteed a win. I remember laughing.

You said it a couple of other times too.

It’s no reason to be ashamed, Gordo. lolol

I also remember thinking how could someone be so stupid as to predict that.

And then I remembered it was you. :)

Maliheh said:
Obama has been the recipient of some of the most baseless and vicious stuff I have ever seen. Some of it from brit hume himself ,Compared to Obama, Palin’s attacks are children’s stuff.

Maliheh said:
what a dumbass this davo is – Brit Hume said of Sarah Palin, “She has been subject to some of the most vicious and venomous media coverage, adverse media coverage of any public figure I have ever seen.”Every bit of it brought upon herself by her own words and actions.

S’funny how you call Brit Hume’s comments on Hussein “baseless and vicious,” but praise Hume’s condemnation of Palin as if it were suddenly objective opinion. Which is it? A “dumbass” is one incapable of maintaining consistency of thought or analysis.

The problem here is that Palin-hate has driven the anti-American Left completely out of your minds. Your entire post confesses absolute terror at the thought of her being President. And if for no other reason than that, I would vote for her without hesitation.

Sensationalizing Headline is disgraceful.

gordonbloyershow said:

Obama’s record will insure his defeat. He will veto the bills that the republicans pass that are supported by the people. No matter how many times Bill O’Reilly says Obama is smart the fact is that he is NOT.

I find your words contradicting. How can his action inure his defeat? If inure is to be used, it would mean that his reelections is insured by his actions. If what you mean is ensure his defeat, then that makes more sense.

SarahP. said:
Hume says….”through no fault of her own…”

Now that really is hilarious and Hume doesn’t strike me as someone with any sense of humor.

I’m told he loves a good fart joke.

skyfet said:
I find your words contradicting. How can his action inure his defeat? If inure is to be used, it would mean that his reelections is insured by his actions. If what you mean is ensure his defeat, then that makes more sense.

Since I didn’t write “inure” I don’t know what you are talking about, as usual. Do you INSURE your car? I can INSURE his defeat.
Remember, ignorant rants make you sound like the shooter in Az. At least he used his real name.

BFD said:
No need. I have a VERY good memory. Ask michelle. lol Sorry, you can’t rewrite the past.

Since you have been off your meds your memory is not very good. YOU have no idea what you are talking about as usual.

Don’t forget to watch Sarah on Hannity tonight!

These clowns have gotten boring. Most everyone knows the Tucson shooter had no political affiliation – he was obsessed about an answer from Giffords which he deemed “inadequate” from when he first saw her in 2007 (hard to comprehend, but this is when no one outside of AK knew or cared about Barracuda Barbie). While Sarah was practicing and producing “I’m Not A Witch 2″, ALL major news outlets were releasing this information – she must’ve missed all of it. Her dumb video wasn’t even necessary – it made her look self-centered (nothing new).

Analyzing a bit more, this proved Sarah’s reactions result from simmering emotion, while she ignores facts. In end it won’t matter – she’s not after public office – she wants a show like Rush or Beck.

idesign said:
Don’t forget to watch Sarah on Hannity tonight!

I’ll read about it tomorrow. Hopefully she and Sean will filter out offensive terms or new/mispronounced words. Will be bad (boring) if she keeps defending herself, but I think she will – Sarah tends to further explain what she was trying to explain when she was “misunderstood” the first time.

Typical Palinian comments:

“The problem here is that Palin-hate has driven the anti-American Left completely out of your [their] minds”.
Does this mean you think anyone “left” of Sarah is anti-American? Such people are not out of their minds, they’re mostly bored with Sarah – but they do watch her as they wait for the next crash (it’s a sick human tendency).

“Your entire post confesses absolute terror at the thought of her being President.”
No one (except the Palinian Parrots) think Sarah will be president. At this point, it’s doubtful she can win a primary – she’s dissed too many Republicans.

” And if for no other reason than that, I would vote for her without hesitation.”
Good to hear you vote – maybe you’ll have a chance to vote for Sarah, but I think she’ll pull out by saying she can do more for Patriots from outside the confines of a political office.

“Since I didn’t write “inure” I don’t know what you are talking about, as usual. Do you INSURE your car? I can INSURE his defeat.”

s/b “ENSURE” his defeat … unless Allstate offers such policies.
Maybe a typo… or maybe poster doesn’t know (what someone’s talking about) as usual.

SarahP. said:
The problem is that people consistently overestimate her and she continues to be, well. Palin. I’m sorry but she has zero chance of ever becoming president. A Fox “News” pundit, sure, president, not so much.

Exactly right.

At this point, she has a pretty slim chance of winning a Republican primary – which is why Republicans and Rove issue few comments about her – they just let her run along gathering more rope. Sarah will keep up the lock’n'load banter to feed her fans and this will further alienate normal people who are tired of/bored with divisive rants – they know it happens, but want to hear “back and forth” about solutions.

Another argument based on a false narrative. Apparently the talking heads didn’t like Palin defending herself but the American people did. A poll done after the speech by Media Curves found Palin to be thought more “likeable, sincere, and believable.”

Even when the conservative talking heads feel she has hurt herself, an increasing number of Americans, including Democrats believed her speech was good.

http://mediacurves.com/Politics/SarahPalinonTucson/Index.cfm

Check it yourself

That is because she is a FEMALE!
And that happens on both sides of the political spectrum, they did the very same thing to Hillary Rodham Clinton; they couldn’t stop bad mouthing and bashing, the most intelligent women in America, H.R.C!

Most men are afraid of a powerful, beautiful, intelligent woman and most women try to keep other women in their so called “place” dictated by their men. Their supposed place is to support men and make them look like powerful and intelligent leaders in all industries, you know, the little woman behind the powerful man….

But times are a changing, as the saying goes and women will not be stopped from gaining their rightful places in the world. And as soon as American women have their Equal Rights Amendments, included in the Constitution, then the embarrassment for Americans can stopped and then they can rightfully so continue pointing their fingers, at the injustices in other third world countries regarding women’s rights.

Brit, you haven’t exactly stumbled onto something unknown. The media feels that if Palin makes a statement, she’s wrong, and if she doesn’t make a statement, she’s wrong. Pretty standard reaction.

A lot of liberals haven’t figured it out yet but making hateful remarks about Ms. Palin is radioactive…to them!

The media coverage is by design. The Liberal Press will use anything to demagog Mrs.Palin, that’s the level of fear they have of her. Sarah Palin represents main stream conservative values and principles and Washington is scared to death of people like her.

the real john t said:
That poll only showed Republicans thought she was more sincere. The Democrats and Indepents didn’t get much over 25%.

No, it didn’t. Is your reading comprehension poor, or are you just a liar? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn’t even click the link since you saw a poll earlier that measured an entirely different thing entirely.

“Respondents were asked to rate Sarah Palin on a scale from 1-7 regarding likeability, believability and sincerity, with 1 representing “not at all strong in this attribute” and 7 representing “extremely strong in this attribute.

“With the exception of likeability among Democrats, Palin’s attribute ratings increased among all parties after viewing her speech. The most notable increase was her sincerity ratings, which increased from 2.62 to 2.69 among Democrats, from 5.25 to 5.45 among Republicans and from 3.68 to 3.85 among Independents.”