Krugman is a Pulitzer Prize winner ? They must dole those out to lefty wackos like Nobel Prizes .

He wasn’t firery i heard all the basic trolls on here all day say all the same things.Its like the club all got together to spew the same stuff.

O’Reilly didn’t even realize it but he did the same thing he was denouncing when he said he needs 24/7 protection because of the loons MSNBC has inspired.

He did not present one shred of evidence that something an MSNBC host said is directly tied to an individual trying to cause him harm.
I guess it’s ok to speculate about MSNBC inspiring lunatics but not ok to speculate about Fox News inspiring lunatics.

Hypocrite.

How Bill if you call somebody “Tiller the Baby Killer” are you demonizing those of us who support abortion and the lawful practice of it, and maybe even encouraging violence by your viewers?

Bill, you inspire the loons yourself, you don’t need any help from MSNBC.

This is my first comment since I read this whole story, because I couldn’t believe how despicable liberals were being. I know understand fully. What kind of evil resides inside the soul of a person who uses the killings of people for politics. What kind of evil makes a person capitalize on peoples’ deaths for political gain.

I didn’t know how evil politicians can be, until this weekend. The American media this weekend has been the worst I have ever seen. I has become so bad that even Der Spiegel is defending Sarah Palin. O’Reilly is absolutely right, and he deserves the right to be mad. Any normal person should be mad at the media. The media have been despicable.

Chudi said:
The media have been despicable.

You are absolutely right.
Why bring up all this talk of hateful rhetoric now?

People should at least have the decency to wait until a real extremist kills a dozen people before we start having a national dialogue about it.

Bill ‘The Liberal Hater’ O’Reilly has blood on his hands also, he has no conscience, just a man who is filled with hate. Shame on Obama for giving this moron an interview.

I am not sure if that Manchin video served his point well, since Manchin ran his campaign to appeal to the right.

Let’s see does Olbermann or Maddow have to hire security guards?

Yet Beck and O’Reilly had to hire personal security guards because Liberal Anarchists are the majority of assassinaters.

Latin2 said:
Let’s see does Olbermann or Maddow have to hire security guards?

Yet Beck and O’Reilly had to hire personal security guards because Liberal Anarchists are the majority of assassinaters.

Nuff’ said

Latin2 said:
Yet Beck and O’Reilly had to hire personal security guards because Liberal Anarchists are the majority of assassinaters.

Apparently you answered your own question, without any real knowledge of what the correct answer is.

Chudi said:
I couldn’t believe how despicable liberals were being.

A Republican senator has said to tone it down.
Roger Ailes has said to tone it down.
Gabrielle Giffords has repeatedly said to down it down, including an email the night before she was shot.

But you go ahead and keep ignoring that.

All anyone should be saying now is tone it down and no one should be defending the status quo.
With all due respect sir, you are the despicable one.

What a buffoon! Is this the same ass who night after night referred to Dr. Tiller as Tiller the Baby Killer? Is that what they called him on MSNBC? And did he forget Palin’s Don’t retreat, reload? The right is imploding and Bill O has the nerve to talk trash about the left? How much was that settlement again pervert? Oh and why is Palin suddenly in hiding now? She talks all this shit but, is now in the witness protection program? Talk about limp and impotent!

Oh, and that idiot Joe Mancin wasn’t trying to appeal to liberals when he shot the cap and trade bill. He was trying to show his bagger cred which is why Liberals despise him. He’s much more suited for the right. Let’s see how comfortable he is being painted with the same wingnut brush!

Fox News: Enlisting Patriots for Pam Geller's Rally Jan 12th said:
I am not sure if that Manchin video served his point well, since Manchin ran his campaign to appeal to the right.

It served his point perfectly, even the leftiest of the loons didn’t say a “peep” about Manchins ad. They gve him a pass because he’s a dem, regardless of who is pandering to.

From the horse’s mouth:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-ceo-roger-ailes-ive-told-all-our-guys-shut-up-tone-it-down

Ailes is such a lib:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-ceo-roger-ailes-ive-told-all-our-guys-shut-up-tone-it-down/

timzank said:
It served his point perfectly, even the leftiest of the loons didn’t say a “peep” about Manchins ad. They gve him a pass because he’s a dem, regardless of who is pandering to.

You clearly don’t read liberal blogs. Not only was he trashed for that but, he was also blasted for missing his first vote. Again, as a Liberal I can tell you that we don’t care for wingnut right leaning loons like him. He should probably switch parties though, the stink of the right is likely unappealing to him. He doesn’t mind pandering to those folks but, he clearly doesn’t want to join their asylum.

Good grief Frances, “a welcome return to the cable news passion”?!?!? There’s nothing freaking welcome about it…

roxsteady said:
You clearly don’t read liberal blogs

After the embarrassing weekend you leftists had , from Markos to Krugman , who were wrong on virtually every front, it’s amazing anyone reads that trash anymore.

I, for one, am sick of the comparisons of rhetoric aimed at George W. Bush and those aimed recently at congressional candidates and Obama. A few questions for those of you who keep making it:

1. When did any Obama supporter, or Gore supporter or Kerry supporter show up at a Bush Presidential event with a gun strapped to his leg in plain sight?

2. When did anyone leave behind a gun at a local Republican congressional event?

3. And, lastly, when was the last time any Republican congressman was shot in the head at a local congressional event?

“Don’t retreat. Reload” – Sarah Palin

“I hope that’s not where we’re going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I’ll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.” – Sharon Angle

What, exactly, is a “Second Amendment Remedy”?

Anyone?

roxsteady said:
as a Liberal I can tell you that we

You don’t speak for all liberals.

murf said:
After the embarrassing weekend you leftists had , from Markos to Krugman

I guess it wasn’t too bad, those two aren’t in hiding.

Palin is though.

BFD said:
A Republican senator has said to tone it down.
Roger Ailes has said to tone it down.
Gabrielle Giffords has repeatedly said to down it down, including an email the night before she was shot.

But you go ahead and keep ignoring that.

All anyone should be saying now is tone it down and no one should be defending the status quo.
With all due respect sir, you are the despicable one.

Did you even watch the clip???

roxsteady said:
You clearly don’t read liberal blogs.

Just this one.

Conservatives have been physically attacked by Leftists for years.

Leftists physically attacked several Tea Party people. One was beaten and another man had his finger bitten off.

Conservative speakers at Universities have to hire personal security guards for protection.

O’Reilly and Beck have to hire personal security guards for protection because they have been threatened.

The evidence speaks for itself…now has the Network Head of MSNBC asked his people to tone down the rhetoric?

NO SO FAR.

Just so no one forgets what has been done to Sarah Palin by the liberals… for two (2) years…
you know, those loving, open and welcoming, accepting, “rainbow coalition” and “it takes a village” liberals…

http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/01/the-not-so-logical-left.html

tatboy said:
Did you even watch the clip???

They don’t watch clips…they just read off the email talking points that are sent to them by Media Matters and Think Progress.

David Wilson said:
I, for one, am sick of the comparisons of rhetoric aimed at George W. Bush and those aimed recently at congressional candidates and Obama. A few questions for those of you who keep making it:

1. When did any Obama supporter, or Gore supporter or Kerry supporter show up at a Bush Presidential event with a gun strapped to his leg in plain sight?

2. When did anyone leave behind a gun at a local Republican congressional event?

3. And, lastly, when was the last time any Republican congressman was shot in the head at a local congressional event?

“Don’t retreat. Reload” – Sarah Palin

“I hope that’s not where we’re going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I’ll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.” – Sharon Angle

What, exactly, is a “Second Amendment Remedy”?

Anyone?

It’s amazing with all those guns at those conservative rallies not ONE act of violence…

I was on twitter at the moment it was reported that there was a shooting of the Congresswoman and in a matter of minutes after the shooting there was CONCERTED meme Narrative attacking Sarah Palin and the Tea Party. They had the bull’s eye photo being passed around and re-tweeted in a matter of minutes after the shooting.

So is appears someone had planned to use it right from the beginning and waiting for ANY incident to use it.

BFD said:
I guess it wasn’t too bad, those two aren’t in hiding.

Palin is though.

There you go again.

BFD said:
Palin is though.

She has nothing to apologize for or ANY responsibilty at this point.

Latin2 said:
They don’t watch clips…they just read off the email talking points that are sent to them by Media Matters and Think Progress.

Well Latin2, I suspect things are getting back to normal with you and your friends as the following breaking news indicates:

Just out from Sen. Michael Bennet’s (D-CO) office …

“We can confirm that there was a threat against Senator Bennet’s office and that the FBI working with the Capitol Police have arrested the individual responsible for the threat. Per their advice, we are referring inquiries related to this matter to the Capitol Police. Michael has full confidence in the law enforcement agencies handling the case and remains focused on his job serving the people of Colorado.”

murf said:
She has nothing to apologize for or ANY responsibilty at this point.

Btw she posted a message on Facebook offering her condolences , so wrong again .

Vitriol is a sermon from Reverend Wright or a President saying if you go to a knife fight bring a gun.

Controlling these outbursts starts at the top.

tatboy said:
Did you even watch the clip???

I watched the show like I always do.

Fox News: Enlisting Patriots for Pam Geller's Rally Jan 12th said:
Well Latin2, I suspect things are getting back to normal with you and your friends as the following breaking news indicates:

That’s one hell of accusation to throw at Latin2.

murf said:
She has nothing to apologize for or ANY responsibilty at this point.

No and yes.

Kird said:
That’s one hell of accusation to throw at Latin2.

Just playing her game, and she knows it.

BFD said:
I watched the show like I always do.

If you hate the guy so much, why watch his show every night?

One more thing, Media Matters has a great piece that explains why we liberals hate the false equivalency. Many of you here on this cite are guilty of this and are so transparent to us.

“First, drawing false equivalence is not only “taking sides,” it’s taking the wrong side. There’s a tendency to think that saying “both sides do it” is the way to avoid taking sides in a dispute (and that avoiding taking sides is imperative). But when saying “both sides do it” requires drawing a false equivalence, the speaker is taking sides — on behalf of the people responsible for the greater sin. A journalist’s imperative is telling the truth, not creating the false impression of neutrality by equating unequal things.”

The writers on this blog might also practice some introspection.

BFD said:
yes.

So Target (the company) and the Democratic Leadership community are responsible too? All because of a graphic?

Have there been any retractions/apologies from those who sprang into action in a nanosecond without a shred of evidence to lay the blame on all things conservative? If there have been I haven’t seen it.

I personally am quite pleased to hear a vigorous defense and a well deserved by those on the left such as Krugman scathing denouncement. They earned the rebuke and it is a tad ingenuous to call for peace and calm only after you got your licks in.

Fox News: Enlisting Patriots for Pam Geller's Rally Jan 12th said:
Just playing her game, and she knows it.

If you said that “in real life” you could be thrown in jail for making a false accusation.

timzank said:
It served his point perfectly, even the leftiest of the loons didn’t say a “peep” about Manchins ad. They gve him a pass because he’s a dem, regardless of who is pandering to.

You are a liar. It was BIG news both on the left and on the right. The fact that he was pandering to the right with that ad was UNQUESTIONABLE and he was panned for it. It was the Cap & Trade bill linked to Obama and the liberals in congress! It very well helped him win the election in a state where Obama has 30% approval. You are lying if you think he wasn’t excoriated for it by the left for that ad.

In other news, this is the most silent I have ever seen Sarah Palin. Good thing she lives in non-contiguous USA. Some crazies would be picketing her house right now and throwing bricks through her windows.

Kird said:
There you go again.

Once again explain to me how that means I think Palin is responsible for violence and not just responsible for her demonizing rhetoric.

NVM, don’t bother…I have methodically been one of fairest ones here,on both sides, repeatedly calling out the sheriff and Olberman and those on my side blaming Palin for inciting this manic.
What you think about my posts is irrelevant to me.

As for your posts, they have been surprisingly substance free the last few days.

BFD said:
As for your posts, they have been surprisingly substance free the last few days.

Read all your posts in this thread to understand what I mean by this..

The Left once again HAS EGG ON THEIR FACE…and this time in the worse way. Using the shooting of people to attack political opponents right from the beginning.

This proves that some of the LEFT are sick bas-TURDS.

Gasket said:
. Some crazies would be picketing her house right now and throwing bricks through her windows.

Yes , and it would be those non-violent , tolerant , peace-lovin’ liberals ..

Latin2 said:
are sick bas-TURDS.

Yes you are your friends are as I pointed out.

roxsteady said:
One more thing, Media Matters has a great piece that explains why we liberals hate the false equivalency. .

Have you ever had an original or independent thought about society and how its effected by politics? Can you think critically about an issue (say abortion or nuclear arms), analyze it from both view points and arrive at a conclusion on which side is right and why they are right? Its always “this article says why liberals are this and that” with you. Can you say why “you the liberal” are right on an issue and not what some partisan article told you why “we the liberals” are right?

Bit off topic, but Jon Stewart is giving an excellent monologue that I think even conservatives would applaud. He points no blame and he is giving an extremely well-reasoned assessment of what’s going on right now. I’ve never been a bigger Jon Stewart fan than I am now.

BFD said:
Once again explain to me how that means I think Palin is responsible for violence and not just responsible for her demonizing rhetoric.

NVM, don’t bother…I have methodically been one of fairest ones here,on both sides, repeatedly calling out the sheriff and Olberman and those on my side blaming Palin for inciting this manic.
What you think about my posts is irrelevant to me.

As for your posts, they have been surprisingly substance free the last few days.

To me, you’ve been setting yourself up a strawman while always keeping Palin’s name in the conversation. As for the substance of my posts, I didn’t know you cared and you should look deeper when reading them. I tossed you a cute Reagan joke as a detente you missed entirely.

I see the Good sheriff was interviewed again tonight:

If you are in law enforcement and you are not a right winger- you will get all kinds of heat from the right wing nuts,” he told Couric.

Later in the interview, he took issue with laws that allow the carrying of concealed or non-concealed weapons at all times.

“That’s the height of insanity,” Dupnik said. “I don’t know what else they can do. Maybe they could pass a law that would require that every child have an Uzi in their crib.”

stoogedudes said:
Bit off topic, but Jon Stewart is giving an excellent monologue that I think even conservatives would applaud. He points no blame and he is giving an extremely well-reasoned assessment of what’s going on right now. I’ve never been a bigger Jon Stewart fan than I am now.

By the way, liberals who point fingers at Sarah Palin and Beck and the Tea Party, Mediaite will surely post Stewart’s speech in the coming hours. Watch it and please absorb it.

George Sore-ohs said:
Vitriol is a sermon from Reverend Wright or a President saying if you go to a knife fight bring a gun.

Controlling these outbursts starts at the top.

Figurative trope. Figurative trope. If you want to play that game, how about Glen Beck saying that the Obama administration wants to kill 10% of the US population? If you are going to play dumb, we will too!

stoogedudes said:
By the way, liberals who point fingers at Sarah Palin and Beck and the Tea Party, Mediaite will surely post Stewart’s speech in the coming hours. Watch it and please absorb it.

I will say when the crises first started you said to pray for the victims and hoping they pulled through. We both stated to pray from the beginning.

murf said:
Yes , and it would be those non-violent , tolerant , peace-lovin’ liberals ..

You mean like the same ones cutting gas lines and throwing bricks through Democrat congress-people’s houses and offices last year? Got it.

Kird said:
To me, you’ve been setting yourself up a strawman while always keeping Palin’s name in the conversation.

Ummm….literally every clip has brought up Palin before me.
I have been one of the few who have been making sure her name has been kept in the proper context of not being responsible for this psycho, but only for her rhetoric.

Nice try.

stoogedudes said:
By the way, liberals who point fingers at Sarah Palin and Beck and the Tea Party, Mediaite will surely post Stewart’s speech in the coming hours. Watch it and please absorb it.

Stewart always makes us proud. :)

Gasket said:
If you want to play that game, how about Glen Beck saying that the Obama administration wants to kill 10% of the US population?

Are you seriously suggesting that the standards set by the President of the United States are fine with you b/c he’s no worse then Glenn Beck, whom you despise and ridicule?

Thank you, but for my part, no thanks.

Gasket said:
You mean like the same ones cutting gas lines and throwing bricks through Democrat congress-people’s houses and offices last year? Got it.

You mean like the PHYSICALLY, you know bodily attacks on Tea Party people and Conservative speakers at Universities.

…and not to mention THE ATTACKS ON REPUBLICAN’s offices.

The libs are finally starting to realize what a huge mistake they made here by coming out of the gates before the bodies had even been removed and trying to pin in on Palin and the right with NO evidence. They were hoping the evidence would appear later, but it never did and now they are left trying to back pedal. But the damage is done and now they have to live with the mess they made. Now instead of being able to pin it on the right, they are hoping Obama can make something out of it. Like the DEM pollster Mark Penn said, Obama needs his own OK city. Well they got it.

Fox News: Enlisting Patriots for Pam Geller's Rally Jan 12th said:
I see the Good sheriff was interviewed again tonight:

If you are in law enforcement and you are not a right winger- you will get all kinds of heat from the right wing nuts,” he told Couric.

Later in the interview, he took issue with laws that allow the carrying of concealed or non-concealed weapons at all times.

“That’s the height of insanity,” Dupnik said. “I don’t know what else they can do. Maybe they could pass a law that would require that every child have an Uzi in their crib.”

I saw interview too, and from my own experience, most police officers tend to lean heavily conservative. Part of my job involves interaction law enforcement.

Heath Shuler and another blue-dog whose name I can’t recall said they were getting weapons and told their staffs to do the same. You can honor the 2nd Amendment without everybody feeling they have to pack heat to go to the grocery store.

Bill loves any reason to keep hate alive. you know it keeps those ratings up. Once a dick always a dick!

murf said:
She has nothing to apologize for or ANY responsibilty at this point.

BFD insinuated Palin is in hiding. We both know that she’s the biggest guttersnipe on your side and ordinarily, she would have come out with a sharp response. I mean, she couldn’t even let former FLOTUS Barbara Bush’s little slap go by without a response. So yes, BFD is right in saying she is “in hiding.” This is unlike her to remain rather quiet without any bellicose response to accusations against her, warranted or not.

By the way. I agree with you that she has done nothing wrong and is not responsible for what this lunatic did on Saturday. No apology required.

Latin2 said:
I will say when the crises first started you said to pray for the victims and hoping they pulled through. We both stated to pray from the beginning.

I’ve been praying a lot over the past couple of days. It breaks my heart to hear the tragic stories of what happened. I pray for those who lost their lives, the families and friends of those who lost lives, and for those whose mental illnesses could potentially lead to something tragic happening again.

I don’t think I could handle hearing much more about the little girl who died, or the man who died saving his high school sweetheart. My heart aches for their families.

I was going to say something about politics and rhetoric, but I think I’ve said enough for now. I’ll probably say something about it in the future, but right now it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Gasket said:
You mean like the same ones cutting gas lines and throwing bricks through Democrat congress-people’s houses and offices last year? .

Nope , just the ” crazies ” you speculated about that would be targeting Palin.

The Sheriff, it turns out, was well aware of this guy and his threats. It seems to me that he’s doing a litlte CYA.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
The Sheriff, it turns out, was well aware of this guy and his threats. It seems to me that he’s doing a litlte CYA.

This is a VERY interesting post.

We

Gasket said:
By the way. I agree with you that she has done nothing wrong and is not responsible for what this lunatic did on Saturday. No apology required.

Well we agree on somthing then. Although it contradicts your comments the past couple of days.

Gasket said:
By the way. I agree with you that she has done nothing wrong and is not responsible for what this lunatic did on Saturday. No apology required.

I only half agreed
She is no way responsible for this lunatic but she should apologize to the American people for being such a guttersnipe.
I have always said this, ever since she started saying “paling around with terrorists”, and the shooting has not changed my mind on bit.

BFD said:
Ummm….literally every clip has brought up Palin before me.
I have been one of the few who have been making sure her name has been kept in the proper context of not being responsible for this psycho, but only for her rhetoric.

Nice try.

Do or do not, I wasn’t trying anything. The impression I got from your posts this weekend is the impression I got from your posts. If I was wrong about the intention I was wrong about the intention. I thought you were a combination of Iago and Captain Ahab this weekend, and you usually sound like Louis CK.

She is no way responsible for this lunatic but she should apologize to the American people for being such a guttersnipe.

Really BFD? Are YOU really saying that

(Washington Examiner)- While Paul Krugman and other liberal commentators continue to exploit this weekend’s tragedy by making hay out of supposedly extreme rhetoric on the right, perhaps they would do well to examine some of the rhetoric that has come from the left. On October 23, The Scranton Times reported that Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa., said this about Florida’s new Republican Governor Rick Scott:

“That Scott down there that’s running for governor of Florida,” Mr. Kanjorski said. “Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he’s running for governor of Florida. He’s a millionaire and a billionaire. He’s no hero. He’s a damn crook. It’s just we don’t prosecute big crooks.”

Listen to O’Reilly pulling that garbage of declaring that those with whom he disagrees are “the far left” and the “radical left.” Get out of here. The New York Times is squarely in the center and does fair journalism, and is cited by Fox News on their news programs all the time. The New York Times doesn’t have a “far left vision.” That’s nonsense.

And MSNBC hosts aren’t the “far left” either. They’re left of center, but that’s about the most I could say because their views aren’t too coherent and they’re entertainers, above all. The network is not constantly spewing hatred and vicious personal attacks like O’Reilly tells you it is. It’s just cable news from a left of center perspective.

As far as Palin’s famous crosshairs map, that map was referenced and reposted EVERYWHERE in the past couple days, by lots and lots of people. I saw it on pop culture blogs, posted by friends on Facebook, etc. That’s not a far-left thing. She is just not popular with the mainstream of this country and people are sick of her ridiculous, over-the-top rhetoric.

The New York Times is squarely in the center and does fair journalism

And MSNBC hosts aren’t the “far left” either.

Are you freaking kidding me!!? So you libs really are delusional?

Kird said:
I saw interview too, and from my own experience, most police officers tend to lean heavily conservative. Part of my job involves interaction law enforcement. .

This is a conservative fallacy. Can you support your specious statement with any facts?

Let listen to more hate from the left:

Alec Baldwin: “I was in Africa. I go to Africa. I mean ladies and gentlemen I am in Africa. For three months I am in the bush and I come back. I come back here and I come back to what? I mean what is happening right now as we speak? Right now the Judiciary Committee, the President has an approval rating of 68 percent. The President is very popular and things are going pretty good and they are voting to impeach the President. They voted on one article of impeachment already. And I come back from Africa to stained dresses and cigars and this and impeachment. I am thinking to myself in other countries they are laughing at us twenty four hours a day and I’m thinking to myself if we were in other countries, we would all right now, all of us together, [starts to shout] all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! [crowd cheers] Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families. [stands up screaming] What is happening in this country? What is happening? UGHHH UGHHH!!!!”

Sean Penn on Ronal Reagan’s illness:

‘I am not disturbed by Ronald Reagan’s Alzheimer’s.’ He looks puckish. ‘You know, there’s not a lot of cleaner pictures of karma in the world. I mean, it’s not a very Christian way of thinking – I do stray sometimes.’ He laughs. ‘But I go right from him mocking the farm worker and eating grapes on television during the boycott to him dribbling today. And I feel a sense of justice.

Gasket said:
This is a conservative fallacy. Can you support your specious statement with any facts?

As I said “from my own experience,” as in the people “I” come in contact with, and I am weary of anyone heavily leaning on either side of the spectrum. You’re hunting the wrong outlaw, cowboy.

Air America’s Montel Williams Urges Congresswoman To Kill Herself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAuR_mBEKdE&feature=player_embedded

Roger Ebert on the Bush fantasizing of Bush’s assassination:

TORONTO — “Death of a President,” the documentary-style speculative fiction about the assassination of the 43rd President of the United States, is seamless, intelligent and maybe even necessary to an understanding of George W. Bush’s role in the world today, and his place in the wider scope of history. Especially when public awareness of the facts about his administration lags so far behind what has already been documented.

Grammie said:
Are you seriously suggesting that the standards set by the President of the United States are fine with you b/c he’s no worse then Glenn Beck, whom you despise and ridicule?

Thank you, but for my part, no thanks.

Not at all.

I was comparing figurative language. I don’t see anything wrong with the President’s language in that example. You wingnuts do. You are an adult and should be able to figure out what he means in it’s context. George W. Bush had similar cowboy rhetoric that didn’t offend me. What is your fucking problem with Obama’s other than just partisan brinksmanship?

Wanda Sykes on Rush Limbaugh:

I hope his kidney’s fail.

Via Big Hollywood:

While you’re reading all those HuffPo articles filled with hand-wringing sanctimony about the current state of Republican political discourse, keep in mind that according to New York Magazine, the founder of the Huffington Post filmed a role in a sci-fi fantasy film where the two heroes of the film attempt to rid the world of evil by assassinating President George W. Bush:

Ah the utter hypocrisy of the left.

I think most people have lost sight of the big picture. It’s a tragedy what happened in Arizona. But let’s face it Sarah Palin had nothing to do with it directly or indirectly. We as a nation have a lot of problems but until we all pull together and find a solution and work to that end, we as a nation stand divided (Remember our fore fathers United We Stand Divided We Fall). The system needs fixing from the top echelon down to the person on the street. Most Republicans and Democrats cannot agree on anything. Big business Executives Banks, Oil Companies, Insurance, Health Care etc… They are all to busy scalping the public and seeing how big their next bonus is going to be. Instead they should be taking more time to see what the true heartbeat of the nation is and not driving the economy into the toilet. If our economy is strong then we all have good jobs can stand united and enjoy the fruits of our labor together. Don’t get me wrong I’m all for making money and living comfortably but when you are at the top of the decision chain (in all walks of life) just because you can get away with it, morally you should ask yourself is this the correct thing to do. (Taking millions of dollars in bonuses with your right hand while you are laying off employees with the left shame on you, or putting people on the street out of their homes (You took a loan from the American people because all you educated people tried getting richer and in the interim you broke the system and put our country almost in bankruptcy, Shame on You). This is a great country we have all walks of life residing here. We have all come from somewhere else or our fore fathers did (Excluding all the Native Americans that were here before our fathers) and that is good but everyone here needs to remember now that you are here you are American first. It is your duty and obligation to respect all whom live here and lend a helping hand where needed if possible. Look at it this way if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. If I have quoted anyone in my statement thank you.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Ah the utter hypocrisy of the left.

Could you just narrow it down to what the pundits and politicians are saying?
I really don’t think keeping score of the bombs private citizens throw say is helpful.
Actually keeping score at all is dumb.
It’s time for everyone to town it down.

Why can’t you see that? What’s the problem?
What are you protecting?

BFD, you’ve been one of the worst offenders and now all of a sudden you are asking for calm? It’s laughable. And the only reason I feel the need to post this stuff is because for 3 straight days, since the very second the bullets lets the gun, the left and their buddies in the media have tried to pin all violence on the right. You are just going to have to live with the evidence that that is total BS.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
What are you protecting?

What are you protecting?

Not projecting BFD, just not going to take it anymore. You libs think that you can fling all sorts of vile accusations at us and we will just sit there and take it. It’s just not going to happen anymore. Deal with it.

O’Reilly is such a hypocrit. Paul Krugman hit the nail right on the head with that article. O’reilly blew a cork because Krugman had him and the other phonies at Fox pegged.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
just not going to take it anymore

Honestly michelle, you have been using this line for almost a year.
Remember, I have a good memory.
I don’t think you have been “taking it anymore”.

Don’t act like this is something new for you.
S’not.
This IS YOU.

Big Eddie said:
After a weekend where, ideological divisiveness aside, both sides of the political aisle seemed to agree that maybe the tragic events of this Saturday should be a sign to tone down the political rhetoric, O’Reilly is the first to shatter the relative silence with one of the fieriest commentaries to come from the shootings so far.

I sure hope you don’t have a tent in your backyard with a skull shrine and some rotten oranges because if you think O’Reilly’s TPM from tonight was the “first” and “fieriest commentary” so far, then you might be losing touch with reality.

Kird said:
As I said “from my own experience,” as in the people “I” come in contact with, and I am weary of anyone heavily leaning on either side of the spectrum. You’re hunting the wrong outlaw, cowboy.

No, I am challenging the fallacy that most police officers are “heavily conservative.” It is a highly subjective opinion. I don’t care what stripes you have. It is a specious statement, hence my inquiry.

murf said:
We

Well we agree on somthing then. Although it contradicts your comments the past couple of days.

No. I have been CONSISTENT in saying Sarah Palin had NOTHING to do with this incident. I said that from DAY #1. No contradiction in that specific statement.

murf said:
Nope , just the ” crazies ” you speculated about that would be targeting Palin.

…and I am wrong how? Has it not happened before? Normal people don’t throw rocks into politician’s homes or offices. Is it fallacious for me to ascribe to them the “crazy” moniker. I didn’t say they were rightwingers or leftwingers. Violence was directed towards a lot of Democrats last year (by their opponents) because of the ACA bill. Why is it unimaginable to speculate that Palin and her family could face similar wrath from her opponents who think (falsely) that she had something to do with the AZ tragedy? Did you even understand the premise of my statement before lobbying rocks at me? I never said people on the left do not engage in violence. Attacking THAT position (read:Latin2) is a strawman argument .

Oops, sorry Big Eddie. I messed up with the quote feature.
It should read “Frances Martel said” on my post above this one.

And one other thing. Sheriff Dupnik should be awarded for speaking out and speaking the truth. Thank you Sheriff Dupnik.

Hey Glenn 113, the good Sheriff knew about this guy AND his threaths a while ago. He’s playing CYA.

Grammie, I responded to your rebuttal earlier but Mediaite is “moderating” that comment for some reason. I didn’t even use ad hominem. :)

Gasket said:
No, I am challenging the fallacy that most police officers are “heavily conservative.” It is a highly subjective opinion. I don’t care what stripes you have. It is a specious statement, hence my inquiry.

Dude, what part of “my experience” don’t you understand? I do not know or have knowledge of “most police officers.” I know about 30. Get a grip.

Loofah Boy Bill “O’Really(?) is a pathological narcissist who for some strange reason behaves in a completely oblivious manner regarding his own violent hate speech and incitement to murder (Dr. Tiller). I watched him and his sidekick-in-hate Bernie Goldberg rip into Sheriff Dupnik for merely stating the obvious. No wonder Olbermann goes after this vile scoundrel without relenting and holds his narcissistic feet to the fire.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hey Glenn 113, the good Sheriff knew about this guy AND his threaths a while ago. He’s playing CYA.

No Michelle, if the guy did not break any laws, the good sheriff cannot incarcerate him for just being crazy. And most especially if he has never been evaluated. And tonight on CNN they specifically asked her campaign manager (I believe) or someone close in her campaign if there was any indication previously from this guy to be a threat to her and he answered NO. You lie again or at the least are largely mistaken if you said the sherriff knew of his previous threats. There were no previous threats. Not verbal ones and only from people (classmates) that felt uncomfortable around him. So if we can throw people in jail because other people feel uncomfortable around them. Than kiss your ass goodbye.

Kird said:
Dude, what part of “my experience” don’t you understand? I do not know or have knowledge of “most police officers.” I know about 30. Get a grip.

Ok, buddy. I will let it go. :)

So was O’Reilly mad @ Krugman for reminding people that he joked about someone decapitating Milbank not too long ago? Can you imagine if say, Chris Matthews joked about decapitating Sarah Palin? Would you take lectures from Matthews any seriously on rhetoric and “hate” speech?

hickory2011 said:
Loofah Boy Bill “O’Really(?) is a pathological narcissist who for some strange reason behaves in a completely oblivious manner regarding his own violent hate speech and incitement to murder (Dr. Tiller). I watched him and his sidekick-in-hate Bernie Goldberg rip into Sheriff Dupnik for merely stating the obvious. No wonder Olbermann goes after this vile scoundrel without relenting and holds his narcissistic feet to the fire.

While I think OReilly has more common sense in his little finger than Olbermann and is not nearly so vile in his delivery most times, I LOVE your description of O’Reilly. Your words are SUPERB when you describe him as “a pathological narcissist who for some strange reason behaves in a completely oblivious manner regarding his own -insert almost ANYTHING here-”. The man’s s#it doesn’t stink. I’ve almost never seen anyone so narcissistic and thus capable of intellectual dishonesty. He’s right about quite a few things though I’m not sure he does anything but stumble into it, he’s wrong about many also, and is happy to subjugate the Constitution itself to OpinionBill. He is, after all, the center of the known universe.

Mediaite seems almost singlemindedly motivated by a desire to knock Olbermann because of what he (Keith) said about Dan Abrams. Describing the toxic, horrific ravings of Bill O’Reilly as “fearless,” “strong,” and “bold” is off the charts.

I hope Paul Krugman doesn’t have any family or pets. If he does, I wonder whether he beats them regularly or semi-regularly. What a pitiful, sorrowful individual he is.

Good job, Billo. Krugman is utterly contemptible as is the sheriff investigating this incident.

Libs are never reluctant to walk over the dead in order to exploit a tragedy for political gain.

@dandmb50 – No matter how you cut it, he’s right on the mark but Palin should just come clean and apologize for the targets board. We do have to start somewhere and yet I do not think this is political in any way, but some just won’t pass up the chance to make it political. This guy was clearly mentally ill and it should have been addressed and clearly someone dropped the ball.

Daniel .. Toronto, CANADA
http://bit.ly/ihZS1r

There was not one thing in Paul Krugman’s article that was untrue.

@dandmb50 – I’m a little unclear, are the NRA people Dems or GOP?
It seems they want everyone having the opportunity to have a gun. One guy said, “if someone was armed at the mall maybe they could have shot him”, which is totally absurd. Even his school thought he was dangerous, and they did nothing but kick him out?

Daniel .. Toronto, CANADA
http://bit.ly/ihZS1r

Fox News: Enlisting Patriots for Pam Geller's Rally Jan 12th said:
I see the Good sheriff was interviewed again tonight: If you are in law enforcement and you are not a right winger- you will get all kinds of heat from the right wing nuts,” he told Couric. Later in the interview, he took issue with laws that allow the carrying of concealed or non-concealed weapons at all times. “That’s the height of insanity,” Dupnik said. “I don’t know what else they can do. Maybe they could pass a law that would require that every child have an Uzi in their crib.”

I wonder how quick he will be to go on TV when it comes to light that HE should have done something about the numerous times this crazy appeared on Pima County authorities radar but didn’t because his mom works for the county?

Kird said:
If you hate the guy so much, why watch his show every night?

Not everybody likes to live in closed information systems. You should get out of yours once in a while.

w_t_f said:
No Michelle, if the guy did not break any laws, the good sheriff cannot incarcerate him for just being crazy. And most especially if he has never been evaluated. And tonight on CNN they specifically asked her campaign manager (I believe) or someone close in her campaign if there was any indication previously from this guy to be a threat to her and he answered NO. You lie again or at the least are largely mistaken if you said the sherriff knew of his previous threats. There were no previous threats. Not verbal ones and only from people (classmates) that felt uncomfortable around him. So if we can throw people in jail because other people feel uncomfortable around them. Than kiss your ass goodbye.

Actually it is coming to light that the reason nothing was done was that his mommy works for the county.

w_t_f said:
You lie again or at the least are largely mistaken if you said the sherriff knew of his previous threats. There were no previous threats.

In his initial interview, Dupnik said there were previous threats. But he declined to elaborate, saying only that they weren’t threats against Giffords.

dandmb50 said:
@dandmb50 – I’m a little unclear, are the NRA people Dems or GOP?
It seems they want everyone having the opportunity to have a gun. One guy said, “if someone was armed at the mall maybe they could have shot him”, which is totally absurd. Even his school thought he was dangerous, and they did nothing but kick him out?

Daniel .. Toronto, CANADA
http://bit.ly/ihZS1r

The NRA is not partisan.

VoiceofReason said:
Actually it is coming to light that the reason nothing was done was that his mommy works for the county.

BS. Mommy can’t save you from a felony especially when it involves a US congress-person. You are not threatening your local butcher.

BTW, doesn’t Bill O’Reilly opine for Townhall magazine? They have their latest rag out with a LIBERAL enemies list. Am I being hyperbolic? On the cover it says “The 50 Most Dangerous Liberals In America”
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/ChrisField/2011/01/06/the_50_most_dangerous_liberals_in_america

An excerpt about Soros….

Chris Field at Townhall said:The midterms were a rejection of the Left. But that’s where we must be careful — like a wounded animal, liberals are dangerous when exposed and backed into a corner. ……………………………………..

The Townhall editorial staff saw the threat radical liberals are to our country and compiled a list of those who pose the greatest danger to the future of the republic. The toughest part was limiting the list to 50, but we did it.
.

Hmmm….?

Is that incendiary calling fellow Americans, wounded animals? Dangerous?

“He concluded that “what this is all about” is “the failure of the far-left agenda”– the first perfectly exploitable quote in his monologue, as it implies that the horrible deaths of innocents at the hands of what, with little question, was an uncontrollable psychopath is somehow “all about” the failure of any agenda at all.”

Frances: Either you need to clean out your ears or if you just read BOR’s transcript, you need to take a reading comprehension course. BOR was saying that the reason that the left wing media has been so quick to blame every right-leaning person they hate is because they are upset over the failure of the far-left agenda. He didn’t say the “deaths of innocents” were because of the failure of the far-left agenda. There’s a pretty big difference there, numbnuts.

Gasket said:
Chris Matthews joked about decapitating Sarah Palin? Would you take lectures from Matthews any seriously on rhetoric and “hate” speech?

How about Chris Matthews joking about putting C02 pellets in Rush’s mouth? Good enough for you Gasket? Tread very lightly if you are going to go there and try to put up any of MSNBC’s commentators as a back up to your argument…..

I have to tell you, Rush Limbaugh is looking more and more like Mr. Big, and at some point somebody’s going to jam a CO2 pellet into his head and he’s going to explode like a giant blimp. That day may come. Not yet. But we’ll be there to watch. I think he’s Mr. Big, I think Yaphet Kotto. Are you watching, Rush?

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/10/13/matthews-someones-going-jam-co2-pellet-rushs-head-hes-going-explod#ixzz1Al8eOCmR

Someone with the means to do so, should go back, preview and replay some of the fear and damming Our Government broadcasting the Fox News Stations presented to the public over the past couple years. Rupert Murdoch recently tried to negotiate for a duplicate of Fox News operations in Britain and they turned him down and I am sure they did it for a reason.