Bill Maher: If You Celebrated Bin Laden’s Death, You’re Not Really A Christian

I just want to shove this guy in a tub and wash him up. A greasy sleazy twit who suffers from “small man syndrome”. He looks like he hasn’t washed his hair in years.

seek said:
I just want to shove this guy in a tub and wash him up. A greasy sleazy twit who suffers from “small man syndrome”. He looks like he hasn’t washed his hair in years.

I guess you’re not a Christian.

If you celebrated ubl’s death you’re not really a progressive.

seek said:
I just want to shove this guy in a tub and wash him up. A greasy sleazy twit who suffers from “small man syndrome”. He looks like he hasn’t washed his hair in years.

You didn’t critique his statement with any actual tangible points. You just stamped your feet and went “NOT FAIR NOT FAIR, I HATE HIM”

Jaurez said:
If you celebrated ubl’s death you’re not really a progressive.

If you say so. Remind people that when they throw that term around as an insult.

Man, this is funny. It’s hilarious when liberals come out and act like experts on Christianity. All of a sudden they have a huge interest in the religion.

Not exactly. What’s really going on is the liberals are attempting to USE their interpretations of certain parts of Christianity AGAINST the Christians. It’s just another undermining tactic.

Come on, ole’ liberals, tell me I’m not a good Christian!

Now I only read the headline, but the first time I decide to take advice about Christianity from a Jew, I’ll be sure to watch this video

Alz said:
Man, this is funny. It’s hilarious when liberals come out and act like experts on Christianity. All of a sudden they have a huge interest in the religion.

Not exactly. What’s really going on is the liberals are attempting to USE their interpretations of certain parts of Christianity AGAINST the Christians. It’s just another undermining tactic.

Come on, ole’ liberals, tell me I’m not a good Christian!

You clearly don’t know what where Bill Maher is coming from or his awareness of religion.

Man, that’s funny.

Nacho said:
You clearly don’t know what where Bill Maher is coming from or his awareness of religion.

Man, that’s funny.

Yeah….I was going to waste my time telling that douchbag the same thing but after I read your post I thought I’d just repost yours…..I’m really starting to believe these douchers have part of their brain that doesn’t function…..

If you’re a rage-filled Lib’rul, you’re not really compassionate & tolerant.

Anything grease-hair can do, I can do better.

Nacho said:
You clearly don’t know what where Bill Maher is coming from or his awareness of religion.

Man, that’s funny.

He doesn’t like Christianity. He says he dislikes all religions, but it’s really only his way of getting at Christianity. He thinks he’s an innovator in the undermine-Christianity sector of the left.

(He’s kinda like Will Ferrell innovating past Wedding Crashers with Funeral Crashers.)

Bill Maher: If You Celebrated Bin Laden’s Death, You’re Not Really A Christian

He is so predictable.

Nacho said:
You clearly don’t know what where Bill Maher is coming from or his awareness of religion.

Man, that’s funny.

We clearly know exactly where Maher is coming from. Don’t care what he thinks. He wants his puss in the news. Thus I think the need for a bath. I’m well aware of his atheism. Once again Bill is making fun of religion. Like hyenas said – he’s jewish. Never was a Christian.

You Christians really need to go a study what Jesus told you about HYPOCRISY!!!

It’s in that book they give you to read.

JESUS TALKS ABOUT IT A LOT!!!

seek said:
We clearly know exactly where Maher is coming from. Don’t care what he thinks. He wants his puss in the news. Thus I think the need for a bath. I’m well aware of his atheism. Once again Bill is making fun of religion. Like hyenas said – he’s jewish. Never was a Christian.

He was raised Catholic you douchebag!

You hate Jews as well?

Azarkhan said:
He is so predictable.

He’s as predictable as all the rest of the right vs left calling each other hypocrites game.

I hope you call out those on the right for the same thing.

As Jon Stewart said, “It’s not even fun anymore.”

Alz said:
He doesn’t like Christianity. He says he dislikes all religions, but it’s really only his way of getting at Christianity. He thinks he’s an innovator in the undermine-Christianity sector of the left.

(He’s kinda like Will Ferrell innovating past Wedding Crashers with Funeral Crashers.)

You’re argument is that it is played out?

Man, that is funny.

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I guess old Bill is saying that the President is not really a Christian. Who knew?

seek said:
I guess old Bill is saying that the President is not really a Christian. Who knew?

Ummm…did you even read the topic? You don’t have to “guess” moron, he said exactly that.

“And Maher didn’t absolve our black ninja gangster president from his criticism, either: he said he, like so many others, was “missing the message” on the non-violent teachings of Christianity. Then again, Maher also once went on record thinking Obama’s not really Christian.”

Ummmm ever hear the word sarcasm?

…then he must be Muslim. Just kidding. I believe Obama is a New Age-ist. He has more faith in Oprah than Jesus, basically. The New Age religion also delves into the Transhumanist agenda, if anyone knows anything about that, but it’s a whole different topic that doesn’t really merit defining in this post.

seek said:
Ummmm ever hear the word sarcasm?

Next time read the topic, Copernicus.
That way you wont make an ass of yourself.

RhapsodyinBlue said:
You didn’t critique his statement with any actual tangible points. You just stamped your feet and went “NOT FAIR NOT FAIR, I HATE HIM”

Didn’t say I hate him. Just so much fun watching all you morally corrupt twits now defending Maher. Who is throwing stones at Obama. Makes sense to me. lol

seek said:
Ummmm ever hear the word sarcasm?

LOL

Christians who celebrate the death of even someone as evil as bin Laden are disobeying the part of their faith that instructs them to love their enemies – and, being Bill Maher, delighted in saying so.

Oh Billy boy you are so wrong, we do love our enemies, but loving our enemies does not prevent us from sending them straight to hell!

Your attempt at ridicule is weak and redundant, who cares if you don’t believe in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism et.al. Who cares if you think we are useful idiots for God, we who have our faith can tolerate your little attempts at ridicule; our only concern is for your welfare, for it seems you can’t tolerate spiritual people and that is something that deserves our ridicule.
But for you Johnnie boy, we will do the Christian thing and turn the other cheek.

This is actually really funny. These Bozo Christians are really perplexed by this whole thing. Their programming is getting crossed up. They’re hearing their talking points the Christianity has been teaching them and then they’re trying to put that into the framework of the “Republican” ideology that’s been hijacked by the corporations and fed to them through FOX news and all these other ideologues that they ‘want’ to relate to and then reality SMACKS THEM IN THE FACE……. viola…..their RIGHY heads EXPLODE!!!

HAHAHAHHAHHAAH!!! RIGHTYS!!!! BRAINWASHED CORPORATE SLAVE ZOMBIE ‘CHRISTIANS’…..good luck with the Rapture you CLOWNS!

gotcha

Yea its a contradiction, but this wont change any minds cause you constantly have to contradict yourself to be a person of faith. More so if its an organized religion. Bill Maher bashes all faiths pretty equally.

seek said:
gotcha

Wow, just give up, dude.

When ive debated with religious people and say hey what about this or what about that or this doesn’t really make any sense. They always say well I know it doesn’t make any sense to you but its about faith. Great that pretty much ends the discussion lol.

Bunch of Christian-ocrits.

lol

sold Obama down the river to defend Maher. lol

too funny. lol

TerryDo said:
Oh Billy boy you are so wrong, we do love our enemies, but loving our enemies does not prevent us from sending them straight to hell!…
Who cares if you think we are useful idiots for God, we who have our faith

You’re a phony and God knows it.

TerryDo said:
>But for you Johnnie boy, we will do the Christian thing and turn the other cheek.

I guess real Christians get to be selective who get the “other cheek” treatment.

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grafxmail7 said:
This is actually really funny. These Bozo Christians are really perplexed by this whole thing. Their programming is getting crossed up. They’re hearing their talking points the Christianity has been teaching them and then they’re trying to put that into the framework of the “Republican” ideology that’s been hijacked by the corporations and fed to them through FOX news and all these other ideologues that they ‘want’ to relate to and then reality SMACKS THEM IN THE FACE……. viola…..their RIGHY heads EXPLODE!!!

HAHAHAHHAHHAAH!!! RIGHTYS!!!! BRAINWASHED CORPORATE SLAVE ZOMBIE ‘CHRISTIANS’…..good luck with the Rapture you CLOWNS!

Well, of course Christians are doing no such thing.

Jesus only spoke to personal enemies. To governmental edits, he said to “render unto Caesar”.

It only goes to show you, that when it comes to Maher or this moron here… it’s not Bin Laden who’s the enemy… it’s YOU…

"Real" American said:
I guess real Christians get to be selective who get the “other cheek” treatment.

Yeah, I suppose it’s illogical that Jesus would have made a difference between your butcher and Hitler…..

A guy named Paul knew what Christianity was about (Romans Chapter 13) and he said:

For rulers (US Government) are not a terror to good works, but to the evil.

But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he (US Government) beareth not the sword in vain: for he (US Government) is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him (Usama) that doeth evil.

Paul was a Jew, a Roman and a Christian, and I think it would be safe to say he would agree with what the Seals did, It’s also safe to say that he wouldn’t think Bill Mahar is funny.

Nothing is logical about religion nothing at all.

seek said:
Bill is making fun of religion. Like hyenas said – he’s jewish. Never was a Christian.

Silly Teabaggers. Anyone who knows anything about anything knows that Maher was raised in the Catholic Church. You’ll have to direct your Jew-hatred in some other direction.

P.S. The “Rapture” is “Crapture”.

King Of Hell said:
Silly Teabaggers. Anyone who knows anything about anything knows that Maher was raised in the Catholic Church. You’ll have to direct your Jew-hatred in some other direction.

You already said that, dummie.

Who knew your love for Obama was so shallow you threw him under the bus in order to worship a greasy heads feet? lol

Night all – and dream about Bill, your new hero.

i missed something what is seek talking about? Oh never mind I never know what the hell he’s talking about.

insideguy said:
Nothing is logical about religion nothing at all.

Particularly if you listen to its detractors.

He’s half Jewish and quit going to Catholic church at the age of 13…which is probably why he has such a childish, pessimistic view of religion in general. And to the King of Hell, I hope you will find your way back to God, and remember that religion gives people hope in the face of fear. Jesus gave people hope and now Bill Maher (as well as Lawrence O’Donnell) is using his words to put doubt in believers. It’s shameful from a true Christian’s perspective. I am Protestant BTW- had a girlfriend that was Catholic and saw that they are far more strict and almost discouraging to some though.

The Vatican did put out the exact same statement.

Raygun said:
The Vatican did put out the exact same statement.

They weren’t really strong on Hitler either.

insideguy said:
i missed something what is seek talking about? Oh never mind I never know what the hell he’s talking about.

Nice rebuttal…

“Maher pointed out that “non-violence was kind of Jesus’s trademark,”

Wouldn’t it have been interesting to see him explaining that to the guards at Spandau?

“It wasn’t so much a Christianity-bashing session”

Oh, of course not!… Any distinctions about making a distinction between the demise of the neighbor who planted roses on your side of the boundary and Mussolini… why quibble?…

Cecelia said:
Jesus only spoke to personal enemies. To governmental edits, he said to “render unto Caesar”.

That’s some first-class hoop jumping, Godgirl.

You know you should have quietly prayed that Bin Laden find the peace in death that he never could find in life.
And that his family should have strength through the trials of their difficult times to come.
Spoke of love, not revenge.
That’s the Christian way.

No one said Religion was easy, if yer doin it right.

“and couldn’t reconcile it with the factoid that “more evangelical Christians than any other religion” support torture (for the record, these seem to be the numbers Maher was talking about, but that same link also says, “[P]arty and ideology are much better predictors of views on torture than are religion and most other demographic factors”).”

Tell that to dissents in the old Soviet Union, China, or Cuba.

Isn’t it great that Bill Maher gets to decide what’s right or wrong?

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
That’s some first-class hoop jumping, Godgirl.

You know you should have quietly prayed that Bin Laden find the peace in death that he never could find in life.
And that his family should have strength through the trials of their difficult times to come.
Spoke of love, not revenge.
That’s the Christian way.

No one said Religion was easy, if yer doin it right.

Interesting that you made the assumption that I didn’t, and I made the assumption that you and everyone had.

The funny thing is that I could have all you “Christians” arguing with each other if I wanted. The catholics, mormons, evangelicals, Jehovas, snake chambers,lutherans, Greek orthodox, Baptist, and a million other different secs of Christianity are always arguing with each other on who is the “true believer” . I wont even go into the other faiths and that most of the world isn’t christian and doesn’t believe that jesus is there savior bla bla. Cause it doesn’t matter to you guys it just doesn’t matter.

Cecelia said:
ell that to dissents in the old Soviet Union, China, or Cuba.

Please note too that these “polls” are probably addressing waterboarding as opposed to breaking bones and pulling out finger nails.

rubberneck says:
May 14, 2011 at 1:55 am (Quote)
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Isn’t it great that Bill Maher gets to decide what’s right or wrong?

Yep. Same as it is your local preacher who decides for you what right is right or wrong

bfdummie, say hello to skippy. ;)

Cecelia said:
Interesting that you made the correct assumption that I didn’t,

fixed

“My favorite new government program is surprising violent religious zealots in the middle of the night and shooting them in the face”

…he’s also not conflicted. Why not? “[B]ecause I’m a non-Christian…just like most Christians.”

Does Maher want to bet a senate investigation into the OBL demise on that?

Cecelia said:
he’s also not conflicted. Why not? “[B]ecause I’m a non-Christian…just like most Christians.”

Does Maher want to bet a senate investigation into the OBL demise on that?

Do you, Glenn?

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
fixed

We’re both wrong.

Bill Maher: If You Celebrated Bin Laden’s Death, You’re Not Really A Christian.

Not true just like everything else Maher says that he and his rabid followers believe is so cutting edge and cuts like a knife at the same time.

For while those individuals of which he disparages may have rejoiced at the news of bin Laden’s demise, they are still Christians.

For at the same time they are something else Maher IS NOT. They are HUMAN BEINGS which God forgives for their sins.

Maher who claims to know religion more intimately than those who practice it ( warts and all ) is exactly what makes him lack any credibility what so ever on every subject he sets out to tear down.

He is a desperate teeny, tiny little child of a man who’s apparently found his ‘ sweet spot ‘ among a small crowd of losers just as depraved and lost as he.

The propaganda machine at work. Convince the enemy that they must defend themselves by throwing out the idea that they did something against what they said they stand for. Christianity is not passivism nor is it socialism. Christ was neither of these though you liberals would like to convince us he was and that we are wrong in our understanding of the Bible. Christians can celebrate the destruction of an evil man and even pray for it. But even if they can and some did I wonder just how many Christians did pray about Bin Laden. I wonder how many didn’t celebrate. I remember the first blogs and those who commented that partying was wrong were quickly ridiculed as being against Obama and hypocrites because they were just upset Obama got him and not Bush. It doesn’t matter what someone says the liberals will twist it. I am delighted Obama got him. I am not so delighted he choose to have him killed and not even try to capture him but then he knew that the obstacles that the liberals had in place made it impossible to try him so just kill him. Yes Obama did it the Christian way alright! I was not thrilled with the parties. It didn’t used to be Americans way to celebrate a victory like that with parties. Take out the enemy when we had to but we didn’t gloat over it and party. But then I wonder how many partied like the liberals did? I’ll bet most Christians didn’t party over the body like the liberals did.

Barack Must Go said:
For at the same time they are something else Maher IS NOT. They are HUMAN BEINGS which God forgives for their sins.

When they confess and repent.

My son, are you ready to admit you were wrong for being gleeful at the misfortune of another and vow to never let it happen again?

Now say 7 Hail-Marys and 4 Mary-Had-A-Little-Lambs.

Amen.

Ajolily said:
But then I wonder how many partied like the liberals did?

I partied like it was 1999/11.

More often than not I could not disagree with Maher more. Today however he probably uttered some of the most accurate words on television I have ever heard.

The scoreboard is quite clear, millions have died all across the world in the name of God, Yahweh, Allah, “I am who am”, insert label here. How many have suffered and continue to suffer in the name of the Saviour Jesus Christ? If there is even one there is a problem. Pedophiliac priests, soldiers of Christ, all perversions using the name of God to further their own evil ends.

Fran

Barack Must Go said:
For while those individuals of which he disparages may have rejoiced at the news of bin Laden’s demise, they are still Christians

Frankly, if in the context of a Bible where Pjaraoh, Caesar, and lukewarm churches get theirs by the hand God… if you can’t rejoice in the dispatching of the likes of a Bin Laden, then you’re just a simpleminded anti-religion….”but…duh”…imbecilic cretin who argues against the omnipotence of God based upon whether he can make a rock so heavy that he can’t lift it…

In others words God and nonsense must be synonymous in your way of thinking… and perish the thought that they aren’t in the Bible or among Christians.

Save it for your own dorm room chatter, Maher. Anyone with half a brain and 1/4 the animus easily and historically discerns better.

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
I partied like it was 1999/11.

Would never have guessed.

Ajolily said:
Would never have guessed.

Well, you should have guessed.

He just wants to argue that none of his political adversaries should have had a good time.

Cecelia said:
Well, you should have guessed. He just wants to argue that none of his political adversaries should have had a good time.

LOL, perhaps I overlooked a few hundred clues?

rubberneck said:
Isn’t it great that Bill Maher gets to decide what’s right or wrong?

Bill isn’t deciding what’s right and wrong. He’s simply quoting Jesus on what’s right or wrong. How did you miss that, Rubberneck? It was the main focus of his rant.

Barack Must Go said:
He is a desperate teeny, tiny little child of a man who’s apparently found his ‘ sweet spot ‘ among a small crowd of losers just as depraved and lost as he.

Yes and he probably still has his blanket from when he was a kid.

Bill Maher: If You Celebrated Bin Laden’s Death, You’re Not Really A Christian

And if you give a shit what Christians think, you’re not really an atheist. Get a life, Bill.

Hot Air| Poll: 60% think Bible forbids celebrations over Bin Laden’s death
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/13/poll-60-think-bible-forbids-celebrations-over-bin-ladens-death/

Does he know that “Christians” were *celebrating* OBL’s death? We saw video of lots of people dancing and celebrating, but no where did I see proof they were actual Christians. I was more than pleased he was dead, but I am not a Christian.

Does he also know that Christians are admitted sinners, and that they are not perfect?

And, everything Bill said in that clip was directed at Obama – he provided a litany of reasons why Obama is not a true Christian. He didn’t provide any *proof* of actual *Christians* joyfully celebrating OBL’s death, but he did outline a number of reasons why Obama isn’t a *true* Christian.

“but he did outline a number of reasons why Obama isn’t a *true* Christian.” – according to his roolz.

sarainitaly said:
Does he know that “Christians” were *celebrating* OBL’s death? We saw video of lots of people dancing and celebrating, but no where did I see proof they were actual Christians. I was more than pleased he was dead, but I am not a Christian.

Does he also know that Christians are admitted sinners, and that they are not perfect?

And, everything Bill said in that clip was directed at Obama – he provided a litany of reasons why Obama is not a true Christian. He didn’t provide any *proof* of actual *Christians* joyfully celebrating OBL’s death, but he did outline a number of reasons why Obama isn’t a *true* Christian.

Quite astute, actually. While I’m not a Christian, and don’t suppose to be any kind of expert, I do know that Jesus’ death was a way of washing sins, as no person is perfect, and we all “sin” from time to time.

I think Bill has a point. Along those lines, there was a debate among Christians in the Middle Ages to make the annointing of kings a sacrament. Annointing kings? There’s absolutely no way the Apostles could have done anything even remotely related to something like that. Speaking as a Catholic (who is not a heretic) I sometimes have to say that there is a grain of truth to what some Protestants says about the Pope being the whore of Babylon. Historically, at times, he (or they) actually was the whore of Babylon (although I don’t find that interpretation appropriate for any Pope of the modern era).

hyenas said:
Now I only read the headline, but the first time I decide to take advice about Christianity from a Jew, I’ll be sure to watch this video

I guess you won’t be taking any advice from Jesus then.

hgarner2000 said:
I think Bill has a point. Along those lines, there was a debate among Christians in the Middle Ages to make the annointing of kings a sacrament. Annointing kings? There’s absolutely no way the Apostles could have done anything even remotely related to something like that. Speaking as a Catholic (who is not a heretic) I sometimes have to say that there is a grain of truth to what some Protestants says about the Pope being the whore of Babylon. Historically, at times, he (or they) actually was the whore of Babylon (although I don’t find that interpretation appropriate for any Pope of the modern era).

Gee, another liberal “Christian” telling us how Christians think. How ’bout I tell you what normal people think. You’re an asshole.

sarainitaly said:
Does he know that “Christians” were *celebrating* OBL’s death? We saw video of lots of people dancing and celebrating, but no where did I see proof they were actual Christians.

I’m pretty sure the average number of Christians in those crowds were the same as in the nation, or close to it.

Meaning, very high.

Stop denying, you sound like Peter.

sarainitaly said:
but no where did I see proof they were actual Christians.

This is why I always say we need to sew a Cross on your clothes.

Dude, we all know you’re an asshole, but .. why are you obsessed with Sara in Italy? Seriously. man, what’s up?

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
I’m pretty sure the average number of Christians in those crowds were the same as in the nation, or close to it.

Meaning, very high.

Stop denying, you sound like Peter.

And you sound like you’ve got a Peter in your mouth whenever you speak.

sarainitaly said:
I was more than pleased he was dead, but I am not a Christian.

We have a lot of Christians here.
Did you hear any of them say “God rest his soul” on this site.
Or “I will pray for his family”.

They sure love to say that kind of shit on on this public forum when a White Rich Famous Guy dies, so why silent in their blessings this time?
I’ll tell you why, because they were happy, except for the Obama part.. They all said it was “Good News”
Hmmm…where have I heard that expression “Good News” before?

If you want to defend Christians, then defend them. But don’t pretend a good portion weren’t joyful at the news of his death.

You Christians are leaving out your most potent defense:
“If the killing of Osama saves hundreds, or thousands, of innocent lives, then yes, I am happy with the events that transpired.”

That’s what I would say if I was Christian, but that’s just me.
I definitely would say “It wasn’t us!! We wasn’t there!! You can’t prove a thing!”

winning said:
Dude, we all know you’re an asshole, but .. why are you obsessed with Sara in Italy? Seriously. man, what’s up?

WTF are you talking about.
I haven’t spoken to her in weeks that I remember.
Maybe months.

Why, is she hot?

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
I definitely would’NT say “It wasn’t us!! We wasn’t there!! You can’t prove a thing!”

winning said:
Dude, we all know you’re an asshole, but .. why are you obsessed with Sara in Italy? Seriously. man, what’s up?

http://i.imgur.com/QuJCX.jpg

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
WTF are you talking about.
I haven’t spoken to her in weeks that I remember.
Maybe months.

Why, is she hot?

Most women under fifty are hot in my book, but no way they equal my wife. :)

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
http://i.imgur.com/QuJCX.jpg

Seriously, man, you’ve got to be one really stupid asshole homo mother f—r to even post something as gay as that. What you do is up to you, man, but remember that most people find hairy assholes to be repulsive.

winning said:
Seriously, man, you’ve got to be one really stupid asshole homo mother f—r to even post something as gay as that. What you do is up to you, man, but remember that most people find hairy assholes to be repulsive.

ouch

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
I’m pretty sure the average number of Christians in those crowds were the same as in the nation, or close to it.

Meaning, very high.

Stop denying, you sound like Peter.

You and Bill are assuming the crowds and those celebrating were Christians… But I recall most media reports said the crowds were young kids and college kids, I also recall many articles from people saying that it wasn’t our finest hour, that people shouldn’t be celebrating (maybe THEY were Christians?).

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/05/outside-the-white-house-a-celebration-of-osama-bin-ladens-death/238141/#slide15

If Christians know that they are supposed to love thy enemy, and turn the other cheek, and at minimum, not celebrate the death of an enemy and all that, then where is the proof that all those people partying in the streets were Christians?

And if there were some, as I said, Christians aren’t perfect – they are admitted sinners. Jesus died for their sins, didn’t he?

For many Americans, the death of the world’s most wanted man was a moment of pride and victory over the the forces of terrorism but for many others it was a party and a place to hang out on a Sunday night. The crowds were mostly young Americans, either college students or people in their early thirties. Curiously, NU-Q journalism juniors on the scene said they had not spotted a single senior citizen at the celebration.

Several placards carried vulgar or derogatory messages such as “F–k Osama,” “America F–k Yeah,” “Ding Dong, Bin Laden is Dead,” and “Osama Bin Got Ten.” But sentiments slowly turned turned goofy, with crowds simply enjoying the moment: many chanted Obama’s campaign slogan, “Yes You Can,” to a man attempting to climb and light pole. Others turned up costumed as everything from dinosaurs to Superman in an American flag and Uncle Sam.

“I have an exam in six hours but Osama Bin Laden doesn’t die every day and I am here to celebrate,” shouted a college student who had come in with his friends.

But not everyone was celebrating. “I think that you journalists are covering the wrong story. The real story is of the people who are fighting for America in Afghanistan and Iraq and not about these young drunk kids who are running up the trees or light poles,” said a couple who were there to witness the celebration.

http://www.thedailyq.org/blog/2011/05/02/bin-ladens-death-draws-varying-u-s-reactions-nu-q-journalism-students-find/

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/01/news/la-pn-crowds-white-house-20110501

Sounds to me like it was mostly college kids, and Obama supporters, with a sprinkling of Muslim Americans.

Why do you keep saying things like *your clothes* and “You Christians are” and “it wasn’t us” – As I said, I am NOT religious, yet you continue to lump me in, in your attacks. I am asking where is the proof that *Christians* celebrated his death.

I think most Christians, most likely expressed approval of Obama’s actions, and that OBL is no longer alive, but, again, where is the proof that there was a massive Christian-wide outpouring of gleeful celebration, worthy of this latest anti-Christian rant?

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
We have a lot of Christians here.
Did you hear any of them say “God rest his soul” on this site.
Or “I will pray for his family”.

They sure love to say that kind of shit on on this public forum when a White Rich Famous Guy dies, so why silent in their blessings this time?
I’ll tell you why, because they were happy, except for the Obama part.. They all said it was “Good News”

Is “not saying a prayer for his family, or asking God to bless his soul” the same thing as gleefully celebrating his death?

“non-violence was kind of Jesus’s trademark,” – So, any comments, criticizing Obama for his non-Christian behavior of, “surprising violent religious zealots in the middle of the night and shooting them in the face”

The Roman Catholic Church responded to the news of bin Laden’s death with this statement: “Faced with the death of a man, a Christian never rejoices, but reflects on the serious responsibility of everyone before God and man, and hopes and pledges that every event is not an opportunity for a further growth of hatred, but of peace.”

“I think that’s on the mark,” says Mike Hayes, a campus minister at the University at Buffalo. “As a Catholic Christian, I cannot celebrate the death of anyone, especially when it is done violently. Naturally, my human nature fights against that idealism, especially when I think of those who I lost personally that day and all those who lost their life on 11 September.”

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/03/135927693/is-it-wrong-to-celebrate-bin-ladens-death

Six in 10 Americans agree that based on the Bible, U.S. citizens should not celebrate the death of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, a new survey found.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/most-americans-say-its-biblically-wrong-to-celebrate-osama-bin-ladens-death-50199/

Sounds to me like Christians are well aware of how they should behave wrt OBL’s death, and don’t need *lessons* from Bill Maher.

Bill Maher effectively takes down evangelical hypocrisy. To celebrate the death, the necessary killing of an enemy is not Christiaan. A poll of idiots does not change the reality. Most people can barely read so forget about polls.

Resistance Is Futile said:
To celebrate the death, the necessary killing of an enemy is not Christiaan.

To support abortion isn’t Christian, or Catholic, either, is it? Another strike against Obama, and Pelosi.

Again, I ask, where is the proof that there was a widespread outbreak of Christians gleefully celebrating the death of OBL?

Christians appear to be well aware that it is frowned upon according to the bible, so… where is the hypocrisy, where is the proof that they were the ones dancing in the streets?

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
You Christians are leaving out your most potent defense:
“If the killing of Osama saves hundreds, or thousands, of innocent lives, then yes, I am happy with the events that transpired.”

That’s what I would say if I was Christian, but that’s just me.

Sounds like that’s what some said, while others expressed that Christians should not celebrate someone’s death:
http://ireadmex.com/2011/05/christians-debate-reaction-to-osama-bin-ladens-death/

Christians should not rejoice at death of Osama bin Laden, says Vatican spokesman
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2011/05/02/christians-should-not-rejoice-at-death-of-osama-bin-laden-says-vatican-spokesman/

Again, it sounds to me like “Christians” don’t need Christianity lessons from Bill Maher… And I have yet to find proof of a massive Christian outpouring of glee and celebration wrt the death of OBL.

http://www.goddiscussion.com/61036/should-christians-celebrate-the-death-of-osama-bin-laden-goddiscussion-investigates/?replytocom=72661

sarainitaly said:
Six in 10 Americans agree that based on the Bible, U.S. citizens should not celebrate the death of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, a new survey found.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/most-americans-say-its-biblically-wrong-to-celebrate-osama-bin-ladens-death-50199/

Sounds to me like Christians are well aware of how they should behave wrt OBL’s death, and don’t need *lessons* from Bill Maher.

Christians have no problem SAYING what is wrong.
It’s the “doing what they say” that they have trouble with..
The Christians on this site reveled in Osama’s death. “Burn In Hell!” was a common response. Atheists usually don’t say that. I could go back and get some celebratory examples from our resident Christians but I am way too lazy for that.

I just checked some Christian message boards and they were even arguing among themselves what reaction is appropriate, so obviously some are glad he was killed and don’t mind saying it.
Those are the ones Maher is talking about.
He never said all Christians, he said “If you are a Christian who…”.

sarainitaly said:
Again, it sounds to me like “Christians” don’t need Christianity lessons from Bill Maher… And I have yet to find proof of a massive Christian outpouring of glee and celebration wrt the death of OBL.

http://www.goddiscussion.com/61036/should-christians-celebrate-the-death-of-osama-bin-laden-goddiscussion-investigates/?replytocom=72661

I’d take no issue with a “massive Christian outpouring of glee and celebration” at the death of Bin Laden… of Pol Pot…of Hitler…of Stalin…etc.

We can leave these men with God, in full confidence that they are in the all-knowing and the most tender and merciful of hands. And we can dance for joy that the world is out of the hands of these men.

Praise God and pass the chex mix!….

Pastor Mike Huckabee’s statement on Osama killing:
____________________________________________________________________________
“”It is unusual to celebrate a death, but today Americans and decent people the world over cheer the news that madman, murderer and terrorist Osama Bin Laden is dead. The leader of Al Qaeda— responsible for the deaths of 3000 innocent citizens on September 11, 2001, and whose maniacal hate is responsible for the deaths of thousands of US servicemen and women was killed by U.S. military. President Obama confirmed the announcement late last night. DNA tests confirmed his death and his body is in the possession of the U. S.

It has taken a long time for this monster to be brought to justice. Welcome to hell, bin Laden. Let us all hope that his demise will serve notice to Islamic radicals the world over that the United States will be relentless is tracking down and terminating those who would inflict terror, mayhem and death on any of our citizens.”"
_____________________________________________________________________

“Cheer”, “Celebrate” and “Welcome to Hell”.

This is what Maher is talking about.

So Maher is saying Obama isn’t a Christian.

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
“Cheer”, “Celebrate” and “Welcome to Hell”.

This is what Maher is talking about.

Absolutely! Humans didn’t create hell. Humans can’t send anyone there!

But humans do have an innate sense of wrong and right and justice, as does our Creator who instilled it.

We don’t know Bin Laden is going to hell, but we know he deserves it.

Go to hell, Bin Laden. If you escape it, then we thankful that God is merciful, if you don’t, we are thankful that God is just.

After this , The Lantern plans to revisit the holy sites this year :

Bethlehem , the Vatican , Graceland .

Liberals !

Bypass the middleman .

Trumka/Soros 2012 .

If you let Bill Maher tell you what is or isn’t Christian, you might be a dumbass.

Bet a big glass of ice water would be good right now , Osama .

Kind of like saying if you didn’t follow your parents every rule, you weren’t really their child.

Pablo, you’ve pretty well summed it up! Good job. And, you are absolutely on the money.
Fun to watch the kidlets turn themselves inside out on this one.

I wonder what it feels like to get paid for being a jerk?

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
This is what Maher is talking about.

and Huckabee was criticized by other Christian leaders for those comments.

“It’s the “doing what they say” that they have trouble with..” “I just checked some Christian message boards and they were even arguing among themselves what reaction is appropriate, so obviously some are glad he was killed and don’t mind saying it.”

Yeah? people aren’t perfect, people sin. Which is why Jesus died for their sins. Christians were conflicted about how to react. That seems normal. But I have yet to see proof that there was a Christian wide outbreak of gleeful celebration that would cause Maher to create this latest rant. It was nothing but another reason to bash Christians.

But for Maher to charge that IF a Christian was glad OBL was killed, they are NOT a Christian is total BS.

Pablo said:
If you let Bill Maher tell you what is or isn’t Christian, you might be a dumbass.

I so like Bill Maher! He’s MUCH MUCH smarter than Jon Stewart, and far and away more genuine.

I just keep in mind that Maher thinks Bin Laden is two or three points DOWN on the evil scale from highly wicked conservative Christians and other homegrown Maher ideological contrarians.

That’s all the perspective needed.

writer said:
Kind of like saying if you didn’t follow your parents every rule, you weren’t really their child.

exactly! hahah

writer said:
So Maher is saying Obama isn’t a Christian.

do you think he is RAAAAACIST?

sarainitaly said:
and Huckabee was criticized by other Christian leaders for those comments.

Oh, so other Christians can criticize comments like Huckabee’s but Maher cant.
Gotcha. I should have known.
I know how Christians like to keep their criticism in-house.

Like for pedophiles.

No Sara. At the Playboy mansion, Bill welcomes women of all races into the spa.

Jesus said if you believed in him you’re saved. Didn’t say you had to be exactly like him. And as Lucifer said, free will…..it’s a bitch.

Celebrating Osama bin Laden’s Death
60% of Americans believe the Bible’s admonition not to “rejoice when your enemies fall” applies to how Americans should react to bin Laden’s death. There is strong agreement across party and religious lines.

http://www.publicreligion.org/research/?id=574

BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
Oh, so other Christians can criticize comments like Huckabee’s but Maher cant.
Gotcha. I should have known.
I know how Christians like to keep their criticism in-house.

no one told him he wasn’t a christian.

sarainitaly said:
BFD: Widow Tormenter said:
Oh, so other Christians can criticize comments like Huckabee’s but Maher cant.
Gotcha. I should have known.
I know how Christians like to keep their criticism in-house.
no one told him he wasn’t a christian.

and, do you really think it is Bill Maher’s place to decide what is or isn’t *christian behavior* or do you think that is something more appropriate coming from someone like, say, the Pope?

I don’t really give a crap what an atheist says about religion.

Show business .

In a world where two acting giants , Charlie Sheen and Ashton Kutcher , are interchangeable , who cares what Patient Zero of the Disease Outbreak at the Playboy House thinks ?

More chlorine tankers , quick !

The Lantern , a student of the Arthur ( not political comic ) School of Humor .

and the little greasy guy still needs a bath – would one of his lacky’s please see to it. Extra shampoo on the hair please – no conditioner.

seek said:
and the little greasy guy still needs a bath – would one of his lacky’s please see to it. Extra shampoo on the hair please – no conditioner.

Also a flea dip and a delousing . Maybe a raw egg in his food bowl for a shiny coat .

sarainitaly said:
no one told him he wasn’t a christian.

lol…Really? Is that what upsets you? That Bill called Christians fakes?

He’s been doing that for 20 years. It just so happens they gave him a little more ammunition than usual.

If Jesus had insisted that everyone be exactly like him, Maher would have a point. But he didn’t.

writer said:
If Jesus had insisted that everyone be exactly like him, Maher would have a point. But he didn’t.

Nah Jesus didn’t insist.

Just threatened nonbelievers with a burning lake of fire for eternity. So nice of him.

That’s where the free will part comes in.

sarainitaly said:
Does he know that “Christians” were *celebrating* OBL’s death? We saw video of lots of people dancing and celebrating, but no where did I see proof they were actual Christians. I was more than pleased he was dead, but I am not a Christian.

Does he also know that Christians are admitted sinners, and that they are not perfect?

And, everything Bill said in that clip was directed at Obama – he provided a litany of reasons why Obama is not a true Christian. He didn’t provide any *proof* of actual *Christians* joyfully celebrating OBL’s death, but he did outline a number of reasons why Obama isn’t a *true* Christian.

See, but to these types of liberals, they HAVE to think that Christianity is wrong, etc. It’s the opposite of what is the truth, but since the entire belief system of these types of liberals is forcing everything to be “equal”, they have to tear down what works and elevate what does not work.

Watch the video “How Modern Liberals Think” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c and everyone can start to get an idea of how the Modern Liberal/Progressive brain works. Find some quiet time and make sure you watch the Q&A at the end. Good stuff.

Cecelia said:
Absolutely! Humans didn’t create hell. Humans can’t send anyone there!

But humans do have an innate sense of wrong and right and justice, as does our Creator who instilled it.

We don’t know Bin Laden is going to hell, but we know he deserves it.

Go to hell, Bin Laden. If you escape it, then we thankful that God is merciful, if you don’t, we are thankful that God is just.

Actually, humans did invent Hell. It’s a fairly newer concept in religious texts. Many believed in an underworld or an afterlife, but the idea of placing it as a way to hand out reward and punishment is fairly new. Even Judaism doesn’t believe in a physical Hell, preferring to believe that the afterlife is a spiritual place where you live eternal life or eternal shame. But we all end up in the same place.

The Christian concept of Hell really didn’t make an appearance until around the 300 A.D. era. But even then, the descriptions and purpose of Hell veer off tremendously. Some sects believe that you are granted eternal life, if you do not deserve it, then you die. That’s it. No suffering. Other sects believe that the soul dies and then is resurrected. And of course, the Catholic version of Hell, which is what most Christian sects (including you) believe that it is a lake of fire or some place where the damned are punished. But then, there is tons of arguments about salvation and how to avoid it.

Thus, for your Hell to come into the world as a basic understanding of good deeds to avoid there, means that people born and living before around 300 A.D. must have died and gone to Hell and said, “What is this place? Nobody told me about this!” And I have to ask where was your just and merciful God before that time?

Here is a christians appropriate response.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4693167/bush-reacts-to-bin-ladens-death

If Bill Maher was a Christian he would know Jesus told his apostles that it was better to sell your cloak to buy a sword than to to without one. In other words, Jesus would have celebrated the death of Osama. It’s idiots like Maher that have doubts because Osama isn’t white. If instead of Osama the terrorist had been Virgil Smith from mississippi, all the liberals would be celebrating.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Show business .

In a world where two acting giants , Charlie Sheen and Ashton Kutcher , are interchangeable , who cares what Patient Zero of the Disease Outbreak at the Playboy House thinks ?

More chlorine tankers , quick !

The Lantern , a student of the Arthur ( not political comic ) School of Humor .

Then I have taught you nothing.

writer said:
If Jesus had insisted that everyone be exactly like him, Maher would have a point. But he didn’t.

Which is why he ended every sermon with, “I’m just sayin’.”

Man I really wish you religious nuts would spend half the time studying math and science, and having your kids do it even more, than you do looking at the bible. That bible aint helping us compete in this world. Other countries are kicking our asses while you guys look at a book and try to decipher what was meant by this or that. The most backward places in this world are heavily religious. Cant you guys see that? THe who middle east is that way because religion comes first and everything else comes after that. In advanced countries its the opposite.

So Bill is now saying Barry is a murderer. Got it. So Barry, Biden and Panetta are no longer Christians for their celebration, then they must be Muslims!

writer said:
If Jesus had insisted that everyone be exactly like him, Maher would have a point. But he didn’t.

If Jesus had done that, there would be no mankind because we would all be God, but we can never become like Jesus because he was God and we are just fault-ridden humans.

Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
Thus, for your Hell to come into the world as a basic understanding of good deeds to avoid there, means that people born and living before around 300 A.D. must have died and gone to Hell and said, “What is this place? Nobody told me about this!” And I have to ask where was your just and merciful God before that time?

Well, you need only to read God’s treatment of Abraham’s faith as righteousness and Jesus’ foray into hell, to know.

Girth Brick said:
Nah Jesus didn’t insist.

Just threatened nonbelievers with a burning lake of fire for eternity. So nice of him.

Well, he didn’t say “your myth is as good as mine”.

Sorry.

Arthur, you have a point. If we look at people who don’t follow their religion’s every rule to the letter, then no one really belongs to any religion.

writer said:
Arthur, you have a point. If we look at people who don’t follow their religion’s every rule to the letter, then no one really belongs to any religion.

Just out of curiosity, when did I say that?

So what if nobody follows their religion’s every rule? You think everyone follows the speed limit? People pick and choose what to follow and society seems to work out fine, obviously, if you do really bad things like murder you’re supposed to pay, yet most people aren’t interested in murder and our jails are full, so we’re doing fine. Maybe someday we’ll legalize drugs and have more room for real criminals.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

notsofast said:
If Jesus had done that, there would be no mankind because we would all be God, but we can never become like Jesus because he was God and we are just fault-ridden humans.

It’s interesting, that even in the Jewish text where God rebukes the angels for delighting in the destruction of the Egyptians in the Red Sea, he didn’t rebuke the Israelites for their celebration.

He expected that they would be overjoyed to be free of their tyrants.

notsofast said:
So Bill is now saying Barry is a murderer. Got it. So Barry, Biden and Panetta are no longer Christians for their celebration, then they must be Muslims!

First of all show some respect for the American president or get the heck out of our country. Second of all President Obama, being a decent man did not celebrate Bin Lasen;s killing, he simply said we got him. Reading and understanding is obviously more than your clownish persona can handle. Why don’t you take your miserable disgruntled self out of America. You hate our country and our president so much and you disrespect our institutions.

notsofast said:
If Jesus had done that, there would be no mankind because we would all be God, but we can never become like Jesus because he was God and we are just fault-ridden humans.

HAAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!

Now you’re talking about Jesus and God……..YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING……..RIGHT?

Is that the same God you were talking about in this post?:

notsofast said:
LOL

Sorry, son, Barry was raised by white people! White people!

He must thank God everyday for that else wise, he would be a loser like you are.

White people, son!

LOL

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sarah-palin-white-house-so-lacking-of-class-and-decency-with-commons-invite/comment-page-8/#comment-459289

You are HILARIOUS!!!

WOW….the hate and glee so many have for those who believe. Nice to know your messiah is Bill Maher. I guess you need someone to carry your water. Personally, I do not believe but I have never felt the need to ridicule and belittle those who find solace wherever. As for the “Christian” bit… I do believe that is why people of faith are called “practicing (insert any belief here)”… they are not perfect and there is always room to grow. For all of you who find comfort in calling the faithful “hypocrites”, why do you take such great pleasure in attacking a fellow human being? Where is the great liberal, “to each their own” you so often preach? Liberal hypocrites…. The need to condemn and diminish never rears its ignorant head higher than when liberals feel the need to rejoice in religion bashing.
Signed,
Conservative Athiest

Resistance Is Futile said:
First of all show some respect for the American president or get the heck out of our country. Second of all President Obama, being a decent man did not celebrate Bin Lasen;s killing, he simply said we got him. Reading and understanding is obviously more than your clownish persona can handle. Why don’t you take your miserable disgruntled self out of America. You hate our country and our president so much and you disrespect our institutions.

Here we go again, “AMERICA! LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!” Wasn’t that the cry of conservatives in the 60′s-70′s and were not people screaming bloody he11 that being a good American IS disagreeing with the government from time to time????? Some political kool-aid drinkers make me give the wee historical “so-it-is okay-to-say-when-YOUR-side says-it” smile.

Cecelia said:
It’s interesting, that even in the Jewish text where God rebukes the angels for delighting in the destruction of the Egyptians in the Red Sea, he didn’t rebuke the Israelites for their celebration.

He expected that they would be overjoyed to be free of their tyrants.

There is a great moment on this exact Biblical text in the movie “Munich.” There are two Jews debating “celebrating” or “rejoicing”… they are not the same. One celebrates the death of a person, the other rejoices in the fact the person is dead. One offends god, the other is a thank-you to god… or whatever power.

Arthur, by saying that Jesus said “I’m just sayin”, I thought it was implied.

TerryDo said:
Oh Billy boy you are so wrong, we do love our enemies, but loving our enemies does not prevent us from sending them straight to hell!

I really think you take way too much credit. YOU don’t DO anything.

Resistance Is Futile said:
First of all show some respect for the American president or get the heck out of our country. Second of all President Obama, being a decent man did not celebrate Bin Lasen;s killing, he simply said we got him. Reading and understanding is obviously more than your clownish persona can handle. Why don’t you take your miserable disgruntled self out of America. You hate our country and our president so much and you disrespect our institutions.

LOL

I was saying what Maher was intimating, and why are you still here after criticizing Bush?

Second, Barry should have controlled the info by limiting the number of official spokespeople who would comment oh this.

And child, who said this “My favorite new government program is surprising violent religious zealots in the middle of the night and shooting them in the face”

Maher!

Now go back to your coma, son!

Let me add one Bill.

If you don’t practice your religion in significant way, including going to church, attending Bible studies, reading the Bible, saying prayers etc. you are NOT a Christian. Too many give lip service to being Christian because they worry about being ostracized and/or are just covering their bases. You are going to HELL regardless. I will see you there.

Cecelia said:
Well, he didn’t say “your myth is as good as mine”.

Sorry.

The Jesus myth was copied from Mithras, Horus, and other older gods.

Basically, one is as good as the other anyway.

IIWII said:
WOW….the hate and glee so many have for those who believe. Nice to know your messiah is Bill Maher. I guess you need someone to carry your water. Personally, I do not believe but I have never felt the need to ridicule and belittle those who find solace wherever. As for the “Christian” bit… I do believe that is why people of faith are called “practicing (insert any belief here)”… they are not perfect and there is always room to grow. For all of you who find comfort in calling the faithful “hypocrites”, why do you take such great pleasure in attacking a fellow human being? Where is the great liberal, “to each their own” you so often preach? Liberal hypocrites…. The need to condemn and diminish never rears its ignorant head higher than when liberals feel the need to rejoice in religion bashing.Signed,Conservative Athiest

Really well said and thought out.

I am a christian and I was happy that we got him. I was happy for all the victems of 9/11 and their families. I was happy that we took out a major terrorist leader and perhaps it would save other lives.

As a christian I should forgive OBL but the govt needs to enforce the laws of the land.

If being happy that OBL is a sin then I sinned. But I am forgiven for my sin through Christ and perhaps one day I will be strong enough to feel love for someone like him but right now I am not there yet.

Not sure where it is written that all Christians are or must be perfect. We should strive to be like Christ and I have no problem with Bill M pointing out how many stumbled. But that does not make them any less Christian. It makes them human.

I think it’s more of an issue for those of you who have a problem with waterboarding and not have a problem with shooting an unarmed man. As for me. I am fine with both as long as innocent lives are spared from this maddness. It’s the govt job to protect us from these outside forces. As a Christian I should pray for and love my enemy. I have prayed for them but I have not made the Love part yet and I may never get there. But I am a christian saved through Christ and Nobody, not even Bill M can take that away from me.

Gees, Bill but you are silent when “Muslims” kill 3000 in one attack. You must indeed be a lib!

Maybe we should all be Vikings. Odin approved of kicking ass.

writer said:
Maybe we should all be Vikings. Odin approved of kicking ass.

LOL

writer said:
Maybe we should all be Vikings. Odin approved of kicking ass.

Crom is a good one for War also!

winning said:
Gee, another liberal “Christian” telling us how Christians think. How ’bout I tell you what normal people think. You’re an asshole.

So Christ-like.

Alice67 said:
So Christ-like.

That was- he was referring to that lib’s “holy” spirit!

Im so confused. When the rapture comes wont all you wingnuts be happy? Isn’t that what you have been saying? God comes down takes you guys all to heaven and damns the rest of the world to an eternity of hell and misery? Isn’t that going to be a happy day for you guys?

writer said:
Arthur, by saying that Jesus said “I’m just sayin”, I thought it was implied.

Nope, just making a joke. Thought it was funny.

You can be Christian and do un-Christian things. You can be Muslim and do un-Muslim things. You can be Pagan and do un-Pagan things. It’s just when you then become the guy casting the first stone (remember he who is without sin, another Christian belief that so few follow), then it gets annoying that your best defense is, Well, I’m only human…but I guess you’re not, since you need to do what I say. It’s a bit illogical don’t you think?

insideguy said:
When the rapture comes wont all you wingnuts be happy?

So Barry, Biden and Clinton are wingnuts?

That sure sounds like racism, son.

What?

Arthur, I said I was going to do what you say? Must have missed it. Anyway, Odin is my man from now on.

sarainitaly said:
do you think he is RAAAAACIST?

No, but I do think you are.

notsofast said:
So Barry, Biden and Clinton are wingnuts?

That sure sounds like racism, son.

Actually this sounds like racism:

notsofast said:
LOL

Sorry, son, Barry was raised by white people! White people!

He must thank God everyday for that else wise, he would be a loser like you are.

White people, son!

LOL

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sarah-palin-white-house-so-lacking-of-class-and-decency-with-commons-invite/comment-page-8/#comment-459289

and I think you might have an issue with love as well:

notsofast said:
When a child says he feels love toward Obama, that’s cute. When an adult man, like you, feels love for Obama it’s called homosexuality, son!

Am I the only one who gets pissed-off when some moron tells me how Godless and stupid I am? Screw Bill Maher, but I’ll bet some guys already do that on a regular basis.

grafxmail7 said:
notsofast said:
When a child says he feels love toward Obama, that’s cute. Whe

LOL

So you admit you are gay?

LOL

I knew it, son!

Cecelia said:
Well, you need only to read God’s treatment of Abraham’s faith as righteousness and Jesus’ foray into hell, to know.

Well, I did what you asked, not 100% what you mean by it. So Abraham was spared just by believing in God, does that mean others were also spared because they believed in God. Like all the Greeks who believed in Zeus, (who looks a lot like the Christian vision of God in art) will then be righteous. Again, the religions of Abraham is only the small part of the world. Did God just like them more, and the heck with everyone else?

Now, the Jesus descent into Hell raises a lot of controversy, since it believes that Hell may have been mistranslated. Also, the thief who is told that today you will be in Paradise with me also raises a lot of questions since Jesus didn’t return to Paradise on that day, or so what happened to the thief and was he spared or did he just get to view Paradise. And according to that passage, Satan was defeated and Jesus took the keys to Hades (it is translated in the King James Version as Hell, but original texts called it Hades, which was merely the underworld and not a place where judgment was passed.) So that means that when they say Satan is after souls, yada, yada, yada, that Jesus didn’t actually defeat Satan? Is Satan more powerful than Jesus at that point, or was he brought back from the dead for convenience to a plot point later? And does that mean nobody got into paradise until Jesus came along. Kind of a dick move by God since he’s supposed to love all these people so he let them suffer for what seemed like an eternity. But since Satan was defeated, does that mean no Hell? And why do we only follow the belief in Hell after the Roman Catholics come along. This is the Hell we tend to picture, whereas the original texts did not have it as a lake of fire or anything of that nature, in fact, the descent into hell could’ve been a mistranslation for the valley of Gehenna, (which was a physical place in Jerusalem which was where the Jewish people would be judged after Jesus’s death) or perhaps just the grave, and then hence, just the underworld. Thus, the view of Hell again did not emerge until the time of Constantine, who was the Emperor who brought Christianity into the Roman Empire. My point is that this didn’t help me, it doesn’t reconcile the fact that a lot of people needlessly suffered and all God had to do to end this suffering was say, “Hey, I’m God.”

writer said:
Arthur, I said I was going to do what you say? Must have missed it. Anyway, Odin is my man from now on.

Sorry forgot to end my quote with “I’m just sayin,”

Still glad Bin Laden is dead. (Odin kicks ass!)

Arthur i respect you for trying and what you write is interesting, but the wingnuts wont read your post. They do not like to have to think. But good post anyway:)

Please a wingnut tell me wont your guys be happy when the rapture comes? Wont it be a wonderful day for celebration when God destroys all the nonbelievers?

Bill, are the people who spend their days in comment sections engaging in a form of sloth which is one of the seven deadly sins?

“Created in the divine image, all human beings have been charged with, and equipped to carry out, the mandate to exercise dominion over the rest of the created order (Gen. 1:28). That is, to build civilization by employing their God-given abilities and skills to work in areas such as education, medicine, construction, government, business, and the arts to promote human flourishing. With this as the divine design for human beings, failure to engage in work is the third deadly sin: sloth.”

The seven deadly sins were from Dante’s Inferno.

insideguy said:
Please a wingnut tell me wont your guys be happy when the rapture comes?

Lord, kiss me once more
Fill me with song
Allah, kiss me once more
That I may, that I may
Wear my love like heaven (wear my love like)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i0zq91Ocz0&feature=related

Jeffy Bovine-Graham said:

Really Jeffy, SON you are sure ignornant, racist, homophobe. SON

Not Jeffy.

Jeffy is going by “Jaurez”

Also, Jeffy is NOT the Toilet in WI either.

notsofast said:
LOL

So you admit you are gay?

LOL

I knew it, son!

Is that a proposition?

Since you’re a TEABAGGER I’m sure you wouldn’t mind having my balls in your mouth. Do you want to start there?

That sounds like a FABULOUS start!

What do you say?

notsofast said:
When a child says he feels love toward Obama, that’s cute. When an adult man, like you, feels love for Obama it’s called homosexuality, son!

Skippy said:
Not Jeffy.

Jeffy is going by “Jaurez”

Also, Jeffy is NOT the Toilet in WI either.

***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person!

Skippy said:
Toilet in WI

Where is the toilet today?

Jesus Azarkhan I don’t even know why i bother, I sake a question and get a music video. You guys don’t have the balls to answer the question. Will it be a happy day or not? You guys get all orgasmic over it so I assume the earth being destroyed will be a happy day.

grafxmail7 said:
***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person!

No. Jeffy “Jaurez” is NOT the Toilet in WI.

Fokker News said:
Where is the toilet today?

Not seen her around, yet.

Skippy said:
Not seen her around, yet.

Too bad, I wanted to make a deposit. Plus chide her about the fact her influence with the moderators must be waning since I didn’t get banned the other day.

insideguy said:
Jesus Azarkhan I don’t even know why i bother, I sake a question and get a music video. You guys don’t have the balls to answer the question. Will it be a happy day or not? You guys get all orgasmic over it so I assume the earth being destroyed will be a happy day.

Not only The Rapture.

The day, the second of their own very death ought to be expected with the same joy. Yet, they cling to this valley of sorrow by tooth and nail.

Skippy said:
No. Jeffy “Jaurez” is NOT the Toilet in WI.

They both tag-team subjects and threads. They write in the same style and use the same expressions. They are definitely connected is some way.

You may something I don’t know but I’m going with what I’ve seen.

***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person!

grafxmail7 said:
***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person!

Gay

Fokker News said:
Too bad, I wanted to make a deposit. Plus chide her about the fact her influence with the moderators must be waning since I didn’t get banned the other day.

Oh, on that subject Jeffy and his marry band of closet log cabin republicans spend an inordinate amount of time dreaming up scenarios where they could gossip to their hearts content.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Barack Must Go said:
Gay

I love it when you talk dirty to me you big tough racist bigot homophobe teabagger of a man!

FABULOUS!!!!!

What in the heck would Bill know about it?

Bill Maher is an asshat.

insideguy said:
Jesus Azarkhan I don’t even know why i bother, I sake a question and get a music video. You guys don’t have the balls to answer the question. Will it be a happy day or not? You guys get all orgasmic over it so I assume the earth being destroyed will be a happy day.

Then you show your absolute ignorance when you make such assumptions. I have heard old and long time very ill people ask God to take them, to end the misery they are enduring, But I dont think I have ever heard anyone actually ask for the Rapture to occur now. But then maybe you have spent more time around Christians than I have. It is funny to see just how you non Christians hate those that do believe. I have always wondered, why is that. My only answer is, you are just small minded hateful people with no tolerance for anyone who happens to believe something you dont. In my world that makes you all very very insecure and small minded. But have a ball, in my world you will answer for it someday.

insideguy said:
Im so confused. When the rapture comes wont all you wingnuts be happy? Isn’t that what you have been saying? God comes down takes you guys all to heaven and damns the rest of the world to an eternity of hell and misery? Isn’t that going to be a happy day for you guys?

It would be bitter sweet. It is the desire of Christ that Christians spread the good word so that souls may be saved. So if Christians work toward that goal do you think they grieve for the lost ones? You bet they do but also they rejoice for the saved ones. Bitter sweet day. Kind of how some feel about the death of Bin Laden.

Ed the evangelicals want the rapture to happen yesterday. Go on tube and check it out. They want to be here when this rapture occurs.

Yea you mean like all the poor little lost ones born the day or the week before the rapture. The poor little indians or chinese or africans or atheist eupropeans or whatever.. A bitter sweet day? A world wide slaughter of billions is a bitter sweet day? How sick and sad.

As for Bill Maher, that idiot will never understand humanity. He grew up in a world where no one would play with him. He even bought his own ball and no one would play with him. He hates everyone and has so much fun ( finally has fun ) putting down Christians, whom he knows so very little about. Like many non believers he is good at skimming the Bible finding a phrase or a few words totally out of context and makes some major Gotcha Deal out of it. So very childish, but then we do expect this from our children. Dont you think its time to grow up a bit Bill and get a life.

I dont hate you guys Ed i fear you guys.

insideguy said:
Ed the evangelicals want the rapture to happen yesterday. Go on tube and check it out. They want to be here when this rapture occurs.

There is currently one idiot announcing fire and doom and brimstone from heavens for the 21st.
The Baboon Beck said something along the lines of “I saw the finger of god on my trip to Israel”

My message to the Rapture ready buyble thumpers is simple:

Just go away, far away, drink your kool aid and DIE already.

Ed Durffee said:
As for Bill Maher, that idiot will never understand humanity. He grew up in a world where no one would play with him. He even bought his own ball and no one would play with him. He hates everyone and has so much fun ( finally has fun ) putting down Christians, whom he knows so very little about. Like many non believers he is good at skimming the Bible finding a phrase or a few words totally out of context and makes some major Gotcha Deal out of it. So very childish, but then we do expect this from our children. Dont you think its time to grow up a bit Bill and get a life.

Actually, Maher was raised on Christianity, and also does spend a great deal of time researching religion and thoughts, etc. His documentary “Religulous” is surprisingly the exact opposite of what you say he does. It’s extensive, and intelligent, and raises some good points that I recommend you check out and debate, since I haven’t found anyone to debate what was said in that film. I think instead of telling someone to grow up, you should directly address their points. Calling someone a child is not the way to win an argument. (Bill Maher, that goes for you too.)

Yea you mean like all the poor little lost ones born the day or the week before the rapture. The poor little indians or chinese or africans or atheist eupropeans or whatever.. A bitter sweet day? A world wide slaughter of billions is a bitter sweet day? How sick and sad.

Do you think the innocents are lost? Thing is the celebration is not about the ones left behind but the race won. Sick and sad? If you don’t believe then you don’t believe it is going to happen so what is the problem? If you do believe then you need to follow Christ and join us. We were given free will and except for the innocents you spoke of all made their choice and the Christians if they did their job tried to warn the rest. At the end of the day or the end of the race it is done should we cry over spilled milk? As I said sorrow for the lost will be a part of it but you do have free will and if you don’t believe us then you don’t believe us. Would you have us more in your face about it? Should we be trying harder to convince you of what we feel is true. Will that help you to be saved? Somehow I get the feeling you want us not to try to convince anyone but then you cry how we rejoice in the death of so many. Which is it? The only way we have to save any of them is to preach the word. The innocents I believe will be in heaven and those who made a choice will go where they have chosen to go.

Ed Durffee said:
It is funny to see just how you non Christians hate those that do believe. I have always wondered, why is that. My only answer is, you are just small minded hateful people with no tolerance for anyone who happens to believe something you dont. In my world that makes you all very very insecure and small minded.

Hey Famous Mr Ed, I guess you didn’t really get that Maher was making a bigger point of hypocrisy…

Ed Durffee said:
I dont care if your kids and my kids have to miss a couple grades of school if thats what it takes to kill our enemies, we have to get that done.

Ed Durffee said:
We can be safer but wimps like you folks have to get your act together and realize unless we go after them there, they will come after you here. FOREVER and or until there is not a single Muslim left on earth and that aint gona ever happen.

I guess you can call that big minded that you want to kill 1.5 billion people!

And you hip-hop, and you don’t stop
Just blast off, sure shot
‘Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin’ cars and eatin’ bars
And now he only eats guitars, get up!

Ed Durffee said:
Then you show your absolute ignorance when you make such assumptions. I have heard old and long time very ill people ask God to take them, to end the misery they are enduring, But I dont think I have ever heard anyone actually ask for the Rapture to occur now. But then maybe you have spent more time around Christians than I have. It is funny to see just how you non Christians hate those that do believe. I have always wondered, why is that. My only answer is, you are just small minded hateful people with no tolerance for anyone who happens to believe something you dont. In my world that makes you all very very insecure and small minded. But have a ball, in my world you will answer for it someday.

I don’t necessarily think that non Christians hate those that do believe. I don’t. I think that Christianity is a beautiful religion that believes in spreading love and peace. During its origins, it was a great way for a persecuted people to unite and get through tribulations as a people, to hold onto hope and understanding. What happens though is when that religion becomes the dominant power and loses sight of the original intent and purpose. I don’t hate Christians, but I don’t like those Christians who use fear and intolerance to spread their will onto people. Same as I hate Muslims who do the same thing. As well as Athiests, etc. I think that reconciliation with God is a personal thing, the worship and the prayer should be between you and the higher power. When someone outside of the covenant gets involved, well, I don’t care for that. Besides, Christianity has done a lot of good in the world. My grandmother who I loved dearly was a missionary and did great work helping impoverished nations. And when she spread the religion, it wasn’t to force them to bow down to her way of thinking but a way to spread hope and justice to a people who had trouble seeing it. That is what religion should be used for, in my opinion. I think talks of the Great Tribulation and the Rapture does try to instill some hope in people, it was written at a time where many of the metaphors, symbolism, and literal acts where being rained down on a persecuted group and it gave hope that God was there for them. And once, power became the norm, it delved less into hope and more into fear and pain. I think most miss that Revalation is not about the end of the world, but about the truth of the power of God in a world of evil. I think the literal interpretation of that text is dangerous. It becomes a self fulfilled prophecy where the destruction of many was foretold by the bible therefore, it’s okay. Again, Christianity and religion should be used to help people in need and to build up men who have been persecuted, not to do the persecution. That is what I hate. (That goes quadruple for you, Crusades!)

sarainitaly said:
To support abortion isn’t Christian, or Catholic, either, is it? Another strike against Obama, and Pelosi.

You righties confuse support for choice which means not forcing your personal beliefs on others with support for abortion. They are not the same by a long shot.

writer said:
So Maher is saying Obama isn’t a Christian.

He has always said that. Maher believes Obama is at the least agnostic or may even be atheist. He also believes that one must be Christian or pretend to be Christian in order to be elected POTUS. History certainly supports this.

Alz said:
Man, this is funny. It’s hilarious when liberals come out and act like experts on Christianity. All of a sudden they have a huge interest in the religion.

Not exactly. What’s really going on is the liberals are attempting to USE their interpretations of certain parts of Christianity AGAINST the Christians. It’s just another undermining tactic.

Come on, ole’ liberals, tell me I’m not a good Christian!

No one needs to say it. You prove it with every hate filled post that you make here.

sarainitaly said:
To support abortion isn’t Christian, or Catholic, either, is it? Another strike against Obama, and Pelosi.

I don’t believe that Jesus ever said anything about abortion.

sarainitaly said:
and, do you really think it is Bill Maher’s place to decide what is or isn’t *christian behavior* or do you think that is something more appropriate coming from someone like, say, the Pope?

I think it is very important for ex-Christians to call out professed Christians on their un-Christ-like behavior. The Pope? He can’t even get rid of the pedophile priests in his own Church. It’s not what you profess but how you behave that has any meaning.

Here’s a great site that everyone should read: http://www.jesusisaliberal.org/

writer said:
If Jesus had insisted that everyone be exactly like him, Maher would have a point. But he didn’t.

What did he mean by “most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also”?

Muslims are crying out for their God to come back and are willing to go to war to Make it happen. Kill all who don’t believe the way they do. I don’t hear Christians screaming out for death and beheadings if you don’t follow along. Better be asking about the Muslims rather than putting down the Christians for what they believe.

Ajolly do you not see this is all a complete fantasy, a complete fraud. A celebration that the race is won? Good lord 9/10 of the earth population destroyed in your warped minds is a race that is won. I don’t believe it and neither to you that what scares me. I fear you waste your time on this stuff as the rest of the world teaches its kids something constructive. I fear that you avoid teaching your kids evolution, biology, physics , and our country will be passed by because other countries are. Its already happening. Your dark ages thinking is what concerns me. Its no oh why should I care what you think im not hurting anyone? Yes you are, but you don’t see that.

And jo hoochie I am . The muslims are worse. Bill puts them down just as much as the chirstians. The problem with you guys is you think you are so much better than they are. They are stuck about 400 years behind christianity in a lot of its thinking. But their mentality isn’t much different than the average Christians was 400 years ago. Almost all progress that has been made in this world has nothing to do with religion absolutely nothing. Religion holds back progress.

Girth Brick said:
The Jesus myth was copied from Mithras, Horus, and other older gods.

Which actually comes from astrology.

grafxmail7 said:
and I think you might have an issue with love as well:

notsofast said:
When a child says he feels love toward Obama, that’s cute. When an adult man, like you, feels love for Obama it’s called homosexuality, son!

As well as an issue with homosexuality.

TristramShandy said:
Am I the only one who gets pissed-off when some moron tells me how Godless and stupid I am? Screw Bill Maher, but I’ll bet some guys already do that on a regular basis.

More homophobic remarks from the “Christian” right.

Bill Maher is wise, he’s just wise. He can tell you what you are and are not based on what you do or don’t do, in accordance with what he likes and doesn’t like, of course. Words of wisdom from a failed actor. I don’t think so…I, and I hope you, are much too smart to fall for that.

Obama celebrated Bin Laden’s death so according to Maher Obama isn’t a Christian. I guess we knew it all along and now Maher made it clear to all of us.

insideguy says:
The problem with you guys is you think you are so much better than they are.

And you don’t? I could say the same about you. Explain please.

Gandhi was a hardcore racist, Billy should really read more.

The catholic church built western culture, Judeo-Christian principles have inspired the majority of great contributions to the liberal arts. I’m an agnostic who stopped calling himself an atheist because atheists have become as annoying as bible thumpers.

insideguy said:
And jo hoochie I am . The muslims are worse. Bill puts them down just as much as the chirstians. The problem with you guys is you think you are so much better than they are. They are stuck about 400 years behind christianity in a lot of its thinking. But their mentality isn’t much different than the average Christians was 400 years ago. Almost all progress that has been made in this world has nothing to do with religion absolutely nothing. Religion holds back progress.

For the most part I agree with you. However, I would like to add Radical Muslims are worse. Most Muslims I know aren’t praying for our deaths. Pretty much the same as most Christians that I know. But Radical Islam is a cancer and it is destroying a lot of things within humanity, including its own religion. Unfortunately, your religion has held back progress isn’t 100% accurate. The thing that helped change our societies, the printing press, was invented to print bibles, and it expanded our learning and helped spread scholarship and enlightenment across the countries. Also, Islam back during the time of the Crusades was probably 400 years ahead of Christianity. During this time, they were the center of math and science. Some things invented during this time from the Persian Empire and Muslim faith include telescopic lenses as well as Algebra, that thing they made you learn in high school. Perhaps nowadays, religion holds back progress, but within the Roman Catholic church there is a section in the Vatican devoted to science and has used it to progress cancer research as well as many diseases. Even Maher visits it in Religulous. (They also believe you can’t take a 100% literal view of the bible since it was written during a time period when science was nonexistent.) Again, for the most part you are right, but also, it’s not 100% accurate, just want to throw it out there so that all angles are covered.

Bill Maher is theologically and Biblically illiterate. Apparently so is the writer of this piece.

There is no imperative of non-violence in Christian theology, nor is there any imperative not to celebrate the death of a murderer.

You guys are pathetic. Willful blindness. And that’s what you’ll be accountable for, to Jesus himself.

“He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”" (Luke 22:36)

NicPlatonic said:
Bill Maher is theologically and Biblically illiterate. Apparently so is the writer of this piece.

There is no imperative of non-violence in Christian theology, nor is there any imperative not to celebrate the death of a murderer.

You guys are pathetic. Willful blindness. And that’s what you’ll be accountable for, to Jesus himself.

“He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”” (Luke 22:36)

Thecons always can pluck out a few verses to make Christ sound like Rush Limbaugh.

Well, I guess I’m no longer a Christian, since I was very happy about about the fate of OBL.  And since I’m not bound by the laws of Christianity, that bastard Bill Maher had better stay the hell out of my way!

Jeffy Bovine-Graham said:
Really Jeffy, SON you are sure ignornant, racist, homophobe. SON

I know you are but what am I, son?

bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

grafxmail7 said:
***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person!

grafxmail7 said:
***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person!

Fokker News said:
Where is the toilet today?

Why don’t you 3 morons practice safe sex and go fk yourselves?

LMAO

jakester said:
Thecons always can pluck out a few verses to make Christ sound like Rush Limbaugh.

So can libs as Maher (Mediate) demonstrated! “Love your enemy,” command is a personal directive from one person to other. “Love your enemy” is in the context of desiring like God does for your enemy to be saved (believe, have faith) in Christ. It follows, “pray for your enemy,” meaning pray that God’s truth will enter into the mind of the enemy, so that he will not kill you! Get it! Nothing to do with rejoicing about the demise of OBL. Did not king David of the Old Testament celebrate when he defeated all his enemies & God looked favorably on him.? Read the whole Bible & ask God to help you understand!

Dem4Ever said:
Well, I guess I’m no longer a Christian, since I was very happy about about the fate of OBL.  And since I’m not bound by the laws of Christianity, that bastard Bill Maher had better stay the hell out of my way!

Not really, he just said they were hypocrites. But since you are bound by the laws of the land, that means if you assault Maher, you would be put in jail for a crime.

edisciple said:
“Love your enemy” is in the context of desiring like God does for your enemy to be saved (believe, have faith) in Christ.

What bull. The context of that phrase proves this wrong. You know, that bit about even the pagans love those who are like themselves…? “like yourself” I would guess to mean, a believer, like you. If “love” means “want them to convert”, why would you “want to convert” those already like yourself? Makes no sense.

edisciple said:
So can libs as Maher (Mediate) demonstrated! “Love your enemy,” command is a personal directive from one person to other. “Love your enemy” is in the context of desiring like God does for your enemy to be saved (believe, have faith) in Christ. It follows, “pray for your enemy,” meaning pray that God’s truth will enter into the mind of the enemy, so that he will not kill you! Get it! Nothing to do with rejoicing about the demise of OBL. Did not king David of the Old Testament celebrate when he defeated all his enemies & God looked favorably on him.? Read the whole Bible & ask God to help you understand!

But it doesn’t mean that one should act like he has a personal directive from God and slay or punish his enemies. People who are always going around slaying monsters eventually turn into one themselves. Life isn’t some simple minded Hollywood movie where Clint’s .44 bullets just kill bad guys, then he makes a bad joke.

WHarropson said:
C

WHarropson said:
A guy named Paul knew what Christianity was about…

Uh huh. Amazing how many “Christians” I encounter who think he knew more about it than Jesus did. They certainly quote him a lot more than they do Jesus.

Maher is, in typical modern communist fashion, using Alinsky:

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules.

Of course Maher, as a communist atheist of Jewish descent, is about as much of an authority on Christianity as I am on Buddhism. But that doesn’t matter because rule 4 isn’t about holding your opponents accountable to their own standards, but about continuously twisting and maliciously misinterpreting those standards so as to make them impossible to live up to.

Christianity is not a suicide cult. Nowhere in the bible does it say that the followers of Christ should prostrate themselves before their mortal enemies and pray for a quick death. But that doesn’t matter because people like Maher will pretend that it does, and if that doesn’t work they’ll pretend something else about Christianity, continually looking to move the goal posts around. Why? Because they’re evil lying bastards.

Everything you need to know about Maher can be summed up by this event. Osama, a profoundly evil man, has been removed from circulation. A man who was not just the enemy of the United States, but of the entire world, including those who foolishly supported him. His death is a cause for celebration because the world is truly a better place without him in it.

But what does Maher do? He utilizes this wonderful occasion to take pot shots at people he doesn’t like for reasons that he cannot honestly state.

Maher is possessed of wit and humor, but all that means is that he’s a talented hack instead of a talentless one. He uses his talent to tell lies and attack people who are far more worthy of praise, proving once again that evil is not merely the absence of good.

rapiscrap said:
Gandhi was a hardcore racist, Billy should really read more.

You are a hardcore arsehead, Gandhi was no racist, he wanted all races, religions and castes to live together in peace. That he acknowledged racial difference and once espoused common for his times sentiments about race, doesn’t make him a racist.

jakester said:
Thecons always can pluck out a few verses to make Christ sound like Rush Limbaugh.

True. The verse is about self-defense because Jesus thought his followers were going to encounter some dangerous times after his death. He wasn’t saying go out and kill everybody you think is an infidel.

Lee Reynolds said:
Of course Maher, as a communist atheist of Jewish descent, is about as much of an authority on Christianity as I am on Buddhism.

Maher is only half Jewish. He was raised Catholic.

Gee, that’s a lot of comments for another nutzoid remark from HBO’s slime-beneath-the-slime.
JUST IGNORE HIM, FOLKS, and he’ll eventually crawl back under his rock.

jakester said:
You are a hardcore arsehead, Gandhi was no racist, he wanted all races, religions and castes to live together in peace. That he acknowledged racial difference and once espoused common for his times sentiments about race, doesn’t make him a racist.

If Ghandi was an obvious Conservative, the left would have ruined his name years ago.

Lee Reynolds said:
Maher is, in typical modern communist fashion, using Alinsky:

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules.

Of course Maher, as a communist atheist of Jewish descent, is about as much of an authority on Christianity as I am on Buddhism. But that doesn’t matter because rule 4 isn’t about holding your opponents accountable to their own standards, but about continuously twisting and maliciously misinterpreting those standards so as to make them impossible to live up to.

Christianity is not a suicide cult. Nowhere in the bible does it say that the followers of Christ should prostrate themselves before their mortal enemies and pray for a quick death. But that doesn’t matter because people like Maher will pretend that it does, and if that doesn’t work they’ll pretend something else about Christianity, continually looking to move the goal posts around. Why? Because they’re evil lying bastards.

Everything you need to know about Maher can be summed up by this event. Osama, a profoundly evil man, has been removed from circulation. A man who was not just the enemy of the United States, but of the entire world, including those who foolishly supported him. His death is a cause for celebration because the world is truly a better place without him in it.

But what does Maher do? He utilizes this wonderful occasion to take pot shots at people he doesn’t like for reasons that he cannot honestly state.

Maher is possessed of wit and humor, but all that means is that he’s a talented hack instead of a talentless one. He uses his talent to tell lies and attack people who are far more worthy of praise, proving once again that evil is not merely the absence of good.

You said “Everything you need to know about Maher can be summed up by this event.” Exactly.

And Maher is smart and funny, but the math is not in his favor: smart * wrong = wrong.

I have contempt for Maher. He is really small.

Barack Must Go: If You Are Just Liberal & Gullible Enough To Buy Into Maher’s Bullshit Rhetoric, You’re Truly Just An un – American, Dumbass, Bedwetter.

Alz said:
If Ghandi was an obvious Conservative, the left would have ruined his name years ago.

Of course he wouldn’t have been Gandhi.

Barack Must Go said:
Barack Must Go: If You Are Just Liberal & Gullible Enough To Buy Into Maher’s Bullshit Rhetoric, You’re Truly Just An un – American, Dumbass, Bedwetter.

Sounds like you really mean it this time.

hey just got back on and yea has the Catholic church done some good things? Sure but to act as if science would not have made progress without them is nonsense. They spent most of their time fighting science. Face it organized religion and science do not work well together. And were the Mulsims progressive in their time? Yep but see that the bad part, the religion always tends to eventually corrupt. Tell me Arthur and you seem like a very smart man, I respect what you say. Do you think the progressive catholics back in the day could even imagine something as backward as evangelism in this day and age. Heck the current catholic church is far more liberal than the evangelicals. To think in these modern times there is a large amount of people who think the earth is 6000 years old, and all those who do not think that jesus is their savior will burn in hell, is beyond my comprehension. I know that just in my town they have connections politically and plans to try and place candidates in position of power. These people want to rid the schools of evolution and teach “intelligent design”. This may seem innocent yet ignorant. I see it as much more insidious than that. I see it as dangerous. More dangerous than current islamic radicals? Nope. But ask a evangelical if he considers himself a radical? Nope he doesn’t. And neither does a Muslim who blows himself up in a pizza parlor. They may not be identical but they come from the same frame of thought. See the radical muslim condoms me for my beliefs here on earth and wants to destroy me. The radical christian maybe will not destroy me on this earth, but in his mind I am destain for eternal suffering and pain in another realm.

I don’t think people were celebrating OBL’s death. It was more that the US was victorious in finding that punk. It sickened me more that the Right found a way to be a wet blanket. They just had to find something to criticize the US in killing OBL. I say good riddance.

insideguy said:
Ajolly do you not see this is all a complete fantasy, a complete fraud. A celebration that the race is won? Good lord 9/10 of the earth population destroyed in your warped minds is a race that is won. I don’t believe it and neither to you that what scares me. I fear you waste your time on this stuff as the rest of the world teaches its kids something constructive. I fear that you avoid teaching your kids evolution, biology, physics , and our country will be passed by because other countries are. Its already happening. Your dark ages thinking is what concerns me. Its no oh why should I care what you think im not hurting anyone? Yes you are, but you don’t see that.

You are wrong is about all I can say. No its not a fantasy and no its not the dark ages. You are afraid of what you do not understand and I cannot help you from a blog. It is people like you who are the threat to the freedom of the people of this great nation. All I can say is I tried to answer your question that we would celebrate destruction. The answer is no we would be celebrating entering heaven not the destruction of the earth. Just like I celebrate the destruction of the evil of Bin Laden but not the loss of his soul or the suffering of his family.

You are limited by your own ignorance Ajolly if you had been born in China you would not be an evangelical. This world is much larger and diverse than your mind comprehends. To say that yours is the one and true way to a heaven is just arrogance beyond measure.

insideguy said:
hey just got back on and yea has the Catholic church done some good things? Sure but to act as if science would not have made progress without them is nonsense. They spent most of their time fighting science. Face it organized religion and science do not work well together. And were the Mulsims progressive in their time? Yep but see that the bad part, the religion always tends to eventually corrupt. Tell me Arthur and you seem like a very smart man, I respect what you say. Do you think the progressive catholics back in the day could even imagine something as backward as evangelism in this day and age. Heck the current catholic church is far more liberal than the evangelicals. To think in these modern times there is a large amount of people who think the earth is 6000 years old, and all those who do not think that jesus is their savior will burn in hell, is beyond my comprehension. I know that just in my town they have connections politically and plans to try and place candidates in position of power. These people want to rid the schools of evolution and teach “intelligent design”. This may seem innocent yet ignorant. I see it as much more insidious than that. I see it as dangerous. More dangerous than current islamic radicals? Nope. But ask a evangelical if he considers himself a radical? Nope he doesn’t. And neither does a Muslim who blows himself up in a pizza parlor. They may not be identical but they come from the same frame of thought. See the radical muslim condoms me for my beliefs here on earth and wants to destroy me. The radical christian maybe will not destroy me on this earth, but in his mind I am destain for eternal suffering and pain in another realm.

For the most part I do agree with you. That’s the thing, radical or extremist views have certainly hurt progress. Even Islam was more progressive until the radical element came in and sort of hijacked their religion. I firmly believe that evolution proves of an existence of a creator since the odds of the things coming into place are pretty large, and yes, the backwards thinking or inability to take a non literal interpretation of the Bible keeps people away from science and progress. They miss the point that the elements are here on Earth and we need to use those elements to design the medicines and the advances to improve our species, not wait idly for some being to return to Earth. The answers are already there, they just need to be plucked and not feared. My point is that religion doesn’t need to get in the way of progress, and I do feel that there are a number of progressions that we were able to make thanks to religion.

I am neither Christian, Muslim, nor Atheist (though I was raised Christian), but I can tell you the thing we should be fighting are these radical fringes. I feel people that don’t use religion with such extremist views but instead use it as a guidepost for life, then they aren’t dangerous, and religion isn’t wrong or terrifying. The extremist have hindered progress, and has sent thought back to the Dark Ages (I’m looking at you Creationist Museum, really dinosaurs and man living together?) I think my point with you is that you don’t need to take an all or nothing attitude when it comes to religion. And don’t get me wrong, I also know that the Catholic Church wanted to kill Copernicus and Galileo because they thought the Earth revolved around the sun, so yes, the extremist views were prevalent back then as well.

And the less I get into the evangelical the better. (I don’t care for them at all for the record).

A vitriolic hypocrite trying to point out the hypocrisy in others most likely less hateful than he. Its a little confusing with Maher. When its the Republicans killing terrorists they hate us people of foreign policy; when its the Dems doing it they hate us because they are dirty muslim. This man cant even keep his own illogical and bigoted thought process straight and coherent. Bill is the last one who should be making bigoted generalizations of others, and trying to point out their hypocrisies. I suppose this is the best that a narrow mind like his could have come up with.

insideguy said:
Ajolly do you not see this is all a complete fantasy, a complete fraud. A celebration that the race is won? Good lord 9/10 of the earth population destroyed in your warped minds is a race that is won. I don’t believe it and neither to you that what scares me. I fear you waste your time on this stuff as the rest of the world teaches its kids something constructive. I fear that you avoid teaching your kids evolution, biology, physics , and our country will be passed by because other countries are. Its already happening. Your dark ages thinking is what concerns me. Its no oh why should I care what you think im not hurting anyone? Yes you are, but you don’t see that.

I am an aerospace engineer with 3 degrees. Science and math are my favorite subjects, they fascinate me. I have a higher than average IQ of 133 while my children have IQ’s of 147 and 145. I made sure they are well educated as well. Science, literature and history are their favorites. I have never found science and faith to contradict each other in the end. Science has proven much of the Bible where scientist claimed at one time it contradicted it. Science continues to come up with things that prove the Bible. Many Christians are uneducated and propaganda has them believing that science and the Bible are in conflict but many of us know better. You have fallen for the propaganda as well and thus you fear what you have no clue about.

insideguy said:
You are limited by your own ignorance Ajolly if you had been born in China you would not be an evangelical. This world is much larger and diverse than your mind comprehends. To say that yours is the one and true way to a heaven is just arrogance beyond measure.

Now you’ve done it!

With that reference to China you are going to set the wingnutz on a frenzy worthy of 100 darvish dancers on meth.

Get ready for the – ‘merka is a xtian nation – and – will be the center of the Rapture – comments.

Well I respect your education you sound like an intelligent man. How can you support an evangelical viewpoint? It makes no sense then. Being an educated man how does your background at any point support the superstitious or the miraculous? How do you explain these things, if you would see them? But thats ok because no one has ever seen a miracle occur. Do you not see that when something happened 2000 years ago that it could not be explained there for was explain by the existence of an all powerful being? Or in the case of the Eygyptians or the Greeks multiple powerful beings? Were they wrong? And if they were why did god not reveal himself to them, so to cure their ignorance? Where they doomed from the start or did God just like to sit around and reveal himself to the world later, just to see how things would pan out.

insideguy said:
You are limited by your own ignorance Ajolly if you had been born in China you would not be an evangelical. This world is much larger and diverse than your mind comprehends. To say that yours is the one and true way to a heaven is just arrogance beyond measure.

Hadn’t seen this one yet so I repeat my previous post as to the ignorance. Yes I believe that I am saved and I have the convictions of my believe. I wish all would join me as I do not want to see any of you lost. If that is arrogance beyond measure then I am arrogant. However arrogant in my view is more about believing oneself better than another. I do not feel that way. I am no better than any of you but I choose to accept the gift of grace. The only difference between you and me is that I believe the Bible.

Ajolily said:
I am an aerospace engineer with 3 degrees. Science and math are my favorite subjects, they fascinate me. I have a higher than average IQ of 133 while my children have IQ’s of 147 and 145. I made sure they are well educated as well. Science, literature and history are their favorites. I have never found science and faith to contradict each other in the end. Science has proven much of the Bible where scientist claimed at one time it contradicted it. Science continues to come up with things that prove the Bible. Many Christians are uneducated and propaganda has them believing that science and the Bible are in conflict but many of us know better. You have fallen for the propaganda as well and thus you fear what you have no clue about.

Thats the point you do not see your own arrogance. You feel God has been revealed to you and a select few who share your specific viewpoints. That is either delusion or arrogance. You believe yours is the one true way. You believe the catholics, mormons,baptist or anyone else is misinformed. Not to go into the other major religions. You say you believe in the Bible but do not prescribe to others viewpoints of the same text within the bible(IE other christian faiths). Speak to your evangelical preacher, ask him if all these poor ignorant souls are going to hell. He will either lie to you to make you feel good or tell you what he believes, not what he knows because he cant possibly know.

Oh Arthur good post by the way:)

Ajolily said:

The only difference between you and me is that I believe the Bible.

And that is what ultimately boils down to.

FAITH.

Not reason, logic, or scientific, tested, and repeatable facts and figures.

FAITH ALONE. Just like in other religions.

And sorry one other thing I cannot let pass. This idea that evangelicals have that the innocent shall be saved? By the innocent i assume you mean people who haven’t been exposed to the word of Jesus. Ok lets think about that. So me being born in a medium size town in the united states and raised catholic, which apparently is wrong to the evangelical but thats another story. I have either been fortunate or unfortunate i suppose on how you look at it that I was exposed to jesus and his teachings. Now I have the choice to either accept or reject him as my savior. I can go to heaven or hell. Buttttt hindu boy born in calcutta, or a china boy born in a village outside of Bening, or an eskimo born by the arctic circle. They are not going to hell because they were not exposed to the teaching of jesus, or if they were it was a brief mention on who he may be. Their ignorance of Jesus saves them. Now me on the other hand I have a choice cause I was so lucky to be born here. God wants to play a game with my soul to see which way I will go. I am part of an exclusive experiment, that most of the rest of the world has been left out of. Does this make any sense to anyone?

Wow! The only surprised is that it took Maher this long to come with a new angle to this story. Of course, he thinks he is being really profound and edgy throwing out the whole “Christians shouldn’t celebrate, because that is unchristian”- I haven’t yet found a passage where God makes it clear that defeating an enemy is NOT worthy of celebration. It would be more effective if the Christians that I knew gave a crap what Maher says anyway.

For many Christians the ultimate judgement of spending an eternity in Hell is enough whether he had been capture dead or alive, he sealed his own fate. – I do think God grieves for every person who chooses to reject Him, inlcuding Osama. Maybe if Maher wasn’t always ready mock Christianity he might realize that Jesus was way more complex than a simple pacifist.

insideguy said:
Thats the point you do not see your own arrogance. You feel God has been revealed to you and a select few who share your specific viewpoints. That is either delusion or arrogance. You believe yours is the one true way. You believe the catholics, mormons,baptist or anyone else is misinformed. Not to go into the other major religions. You say you believe in the Bible but do not prescribe to others viewpoints of the same text within the bible(IE other christian faiths). Speak to your evangelical preacher, ask him if all these poor ignorant souls are going to hell. He will either lie to you to make you feel good or tell you what he believes, not what he knows because he cant possibly know.

Your determination of my arrogance describes your own as well. How are you not the arrogant one in your view of the truth. We believe what we believe based on what we have learned and experienced and we choose from there what to believe. Which of us is right, which of us is arrogant? I am not the one on the attack here, I was simply answering your question as to whether I would celebrate destruction. If I do not believe what I say I believe then I do not believe it. So then everyone is arrogant who chooses to have the convictions of their believes. You say I am arrogant because I believe God revealed it only to me and a select few. Well that would be arrogant indeed if it was true. What he revealed he revealed to all.

insideguy said:
Well I respect your education you sound like an intelligent man. How can you support an evangelical viewpoint? It makes no sense then. Being an educated man how does your background at any point support the superstitious or the miraculous? How do you explain these things, if you would see them? But thats ok because no one has ever seen a miracle occur. Do you not see that when something happened 2000 years ago that it could not be explained there for was explain by the existence of an all powerful being? Or in the case of the Eygyptians or the Greeks multiple powerful beings? Were they wrong? And if they were why did god not reveal himself to them, so to cure their ignorance? Where they doomed from the start or did God just like to sit around and reveal himself to the world later, just to see how things would pan out.

Do you think we can go into all of that on a blog? I do not believe lockstep with Lee Strobel and he is not a member of my specific denomination. But read Lee Strobel’s “The Case for a Creator” to get an idea of how an educated intelligent person can believe in the miracles of the Bible. Lee Strobel was an avowed atheist who’s wife became a believer to his utter shock and dismay. He set out to prove it all false. You might read his “A case for Christ” as it was the first one and explains more his story of his search for the truth.

As for your new question about what constitutes innocence I have not put that much thought into it. I was thinking of it in terms of lack of sin or the knowledge of sin, not lack of exposure to the word. It is an interesting question. I will think more on it.

It is not what I believe it was what evidence and fact have shown. I am not arrogant I don’t pretend to know what is beyond this plane of existence. No one can possibly know that. It is arrogance to KNOW that and that is what an evangelical(and sorry im just picking on them) says he does know. There is no proof or evidence of any of the miracles that occurred and that is the and that is the core of your belief. Without these miracles there would be no christianity. So you argue well its your belief or my belief. It is not that at all. You have the burden of proof not me. Show me these things have happened, from adam and eve, to the resurrection of Jesus. I could easily tell you that Leprcauns exist and i believe in them. You would find that ridiculous and rightfully so . But if I showed you evidence that they exist or actually showed you one you may change your mind.

You believe in a miracle yourself. You believe that from a primordial ooze life sprang up and evolved into what we know now without any external influence. That’s a leap as well and in the mind of some Christians just how God did it. Do you not see the miracle of life itself. Of birth, of the earth? Science shows us the miracles more than the Bible. Miracles are all around us. How about the big bang. Wow if that is how it happened it is a huge miracle that all the dust and pieces came together just that way and that life sprang out of that. How about the earths system of weather? Miracle. They are everywhere. I have known people with cancer go back to the doctor and no longer have cancer. Doctors can’t explain it. Miracle. No you are the one who attacks me for believing. I allow you have the right not to believe so the burden of proof is on you but you cannot prove I am wrong only that you believe I am wrong. No it is how you believe and how I believe and there is no burden of proof. I only engaged in this conversation to say I and other Christians do not wish to celebrate destruction.

Show me where cancer has just gone away. And if this is true would not a scientific explanation be more plausible? Cannot it have something to do with an immune system strength. There is evidence that life evolved from the primordial ooze, evidence that is constantly evolving unlike the bible. And the weather? You should know as an educated man about the weather. Once again you show your arrogance in that you believe you are special in this universe, on a small planet with all of its imperfections, located in a galaxy with millions of stars surrounded by galaxies with billions of more stars. Is it a miracle that planes fly? Your ancestors would say yes, but you know better you understand the laws of physics and aerodynamics. Ask yourself this one question why in gods infinite wisdom, would after his son came back from the dead, would his son not show himself to the world. And I mean the world not 12 men and a woman who already worshipped him. Why not walk through the streets and walk up to is assassins and show them. Why not show himself to the incas in peru or the aztecs in mexico. Why not reveal himself to the Babas in india, or the shintos in Japan. Is this all a giant game to this all powerful all knowing being. Are we chess pieces on a board for him to play with?

And I don’t mean to offend you, you seem like a nice guy. I do not see you as dangerous and evangelicals do not believe that it was god miracle that we came out of primordial ooze. They believe in the absolute word of the bible literally. I fear anyone or any organization that claims exclusive ownership to the truth. That is dangerous.

God didn’t write the scriptures, man did. Do you believe everything a man writes is factual ? I believe there is a God or Creator, evolution does not explain everything, some things have evolved over time but, from what and what created the thing it has evolved from ? All you have to know about religion is in the ten commandments.

I would ordinarily ask what does the limp willy Maher know about Christianity, but in this he is correct, perhaps for the wrong reasons. It is never proper to celebrate taking a life–this is what people like the jihadists do. This is what makes us different from them.

Ahh so if all I have to know about religion is the ten commandments why is there no mention of slavery in the ten commandments? If I took a slave and had him work around the yard without letting him go and keeping him in a cage at night would that be ok with god? The south took advantage of that little omission. You would have thought god would have remembered to write this down. But 10 is such a nice number i suppose. Oh I could go on about other omissions but it would take me all night to type them out. And spike you are correct man did write the scriptures including the story of the ten commandments. That is not how far right wing evangelicals see it, they believe that the old and new testaments are the literal word of god, and the fact that you do not believe that means you are going to be keeping company with a demonic fellow with horns in a short amount of time. And evolution does not explain everything but we are always learning more. The bible does not evolve it leaves no room to evolve. It is an ancient text written by ancient men and changed by other men.

It is proper to celebrate. We celebrated for weeks after world war 2 after we not only took a life but obliterated millions of lives. And those were a lot of christians celebrating those victories. Maybe just maybe the people in time square and washington and elsewhere these people were not celebrating the death of Bin Laden but the fact that this monster was now unable to take any more innocent lives.

Oh and to answer the question about slavery do you know why the ancients left that out? Cause they had slaves, and it would have be inconvenient for them to write that one in:)

Maher gives any excuse to be an idiot.

You have never met someone whose cancer disappeared? Is there a scientific explanation? Could be but then science is in and of itself miraculous. And you bring up another wonderful miracle. The immune system. Wow that is something, isn’t it. I feel for you that you do not see that how all this works is miraculous.

Do I understand weather? As much as most people and because I do I cannot fathom how you don’t see it as a miracle our earth has this great system of supporting life.

I think the capability of our atmosphere to support flying is miraculous. Do I understand the science behind flying? I would hope so as it is my job.

The evidence that life evolved from a primordial ooze has been debunked as it cannot be duplicated and our scientist have determined that the primordial ooze lacked the building blocks of life. So now the theory is that a meteor brought the building blocks of life to that primordial ooze on a one time accident that created life. Pretty miraculous if you ask me. Then that has been debunked because amino acids are what was needed and they are nitrogenous. If that happened there would be deposits of nitrogen rich materials. However the opposite is true. Life may have evolved as the theory goes but it didn’t come from the primordial ooze and the scientist agree about this.

Now as far as science evolving most proponents of this theory say it is settled science. As far as evidence evolving evidence is only evidence if it is fact. It doesn’t evolve. Evolving is changing so if fact changes then it wasn’t fact. I would hope the Bible is not evolving but I know that our understanding of the Bible and of science is evolving.

Again you say I am arrogant for believing I am special in this world. I believe we are special, you and me and I believe God thinks you are special and he loves you.

Now as to Christ showing himself, he did. He showed himself to not only the 12 men and 3 women but then he showed himself to 500 on the streets and to doubting Thomas who was not with the group of 12 and a group of thousands after that. As a result 3000 were baptized that day in the Jordan river. This is in the Bible and supported by other documents written during the time period, written by believers and non-believers.

I cannot answer all of your questions in this forum. Your issues and questions require more intimate conversation than we can or should have on a blog. I would be willing to continue but not willing to give you my contact info nor advise you to give yours on this site. I wish you the best and advise you to read Lee Stobel as a start to understanding people like us.

Maher is such a one sided idiot always trying to rhapsodize his distaste in the ideology of God, and someone that knows more than him.

So what? Maher being the ultimate expert on Christianity, decides that Christians can’t celebrate the death of an enemy. Is Billy not happy he’s gone? or maybe he wanted to get a one bed flat with him? Lord knows Maher loves to screw with so many other people.

Please what verse in the bible what book does it state that he showed himself to 500? Good number of people never heard that one. Man if I was him I would have walked right up to the roman emperor himself at the time. Seems a nice way to prove himself. But don’t you see you understand the science behind flying thats great. Your ancestors did not therefore they would think it a miracle. If indeed cancer was here one day and not the next,is that a miracle, or has science yet to explain it. Science 300 years ago could not explain flight, just as they may not be able to explain a miraculous recovery from a disease today. That does not mean they will not tomorrow. Ask yourself jolly has there ever ever been a know regrowth after an amputation? Yet somehow the body heals itself from within by a miracle. Show me in history one regrowth of a finger, or toe, or limb or lung. Do not live in a fantasy land because this has not occurred.

You do seem like an educated man Ajolly im not sure if your a new earther or not. You seem to have an open mind i respect that. And you do not seem to be radical as I have said I don’t worry about you. I worry about those who KNOW. I think you can respect that. Religious radicals are dangerous and if you give them power they will become more so. When the spanish came to the new world they felt the KNEW what was best for the poor misbegotten souls of the native americans. When the Indians didn’t believe them they were wiped off the face of the earth. That is what absolute thinking will get you.

insideguy said:
Please what verse in the bible what book does it state that he showed himself to 500? Good number of people never heard that one. Man if I was him I would have walked right up to the roman emperor himself at the time. Seems a nice way to prove himself. But don’t you see you understand the science behind flying thats great. Your ancestors did not therefore they would think it a miracle. If indeed cancer was here one day and not the next,is that a miracle, or has science yet to explain it. Science 300 years ago could not explain flight, just as they may not be able to explain a miraculous recovery from a disease today. That does not mean they will not tomorrow. Ask yourself jolly has there ever ever been a know regrowth after an amputation? Yet somehow the body heals itself from within by a miracle. Show me in history one regrowth of a finger, or toe, or limb or lung. Do not live in a fantasy land because this has not occurred.

1 Cor. 15:3-8

The miracles of the Bible were recorded in the Bible and were witnessed by those of that time. Other documents of the time by historians not Christian also confirmed that people reported witnessing miracles. I believe the accounts and you do not. Lepers were cured and yet even today there is no cure for leprosy. You doubt that these witnesses were reliable. Do you know that of the 12 only John died of old age. The other original 10 plus Paul were tortured and killed because they refused to retract their testimony, as were many other Christian witnesses. If you had made up that testimony would you have clung to it even while being subjected to such as disembowelment, beheading, stoning, hanging upside down, feeding the lions?

I could put 12 hardcore muslims in a room torture and kill them to get them to retract their belief in the Koran. Does that make the Koran true? If you believe you will not retract your statements. I read the passage interesting, I still would have gone to more important people than those that already believed it makes no sense. You have not answered my question, why did he not reveal himself to others around the world. He is all powerful he is omni potent. My only conclusion is he wished to see how this game played itself out, which in itself is strange. This all loving all powerful being placing us on strings in a cosmological puppet show.

And what I meant is the muslims would not retract their belief in the Koran

Oh and the Chirstians should know a little about torture to get people to change their beliefs. They did it to the Jews during the inquisition. Not many Jews gave up beliefs.

And Bill Maher is nothing but a pile of monkey feces, and? Who cares what this idiot thinks of people who think the killing of a mass murderer is ok? I know I don’t! And people pay money to see this Progressive Puke? Why is he even news? Guess the MSM will print anything if it goes with their Progressive Sickness! God, please rid America of these scumbags! And Maher, why don’t you go back to sucking Obma’s Penis, seems that is all your good at! Now, Eat Feces and Live you Scumbag!

See why the left thinks the right are dummies? Ajolly no offense intended but billwhit1357 is why im concerned.

Brilliant.

A tip of the hat to Mr. Maher.

And remember, “You’re not really a Christian … you’re a Texan.”

The meek shall inherit the earth. A plot 6′ x 3′ x 6′ deep.

Do unto others before they do unto you. Then split.

Kill them all. God shall know his own.

Christians, like all religions who believe themselves to own truth, are intolerant of those with whom they disagree. Mr Maher is likewise intolerant. The Navy SEALs were not acting to convert the wicked, they were acting to eliminate a threat to their country.

insideguy said:
You have not answered my question, why did he not reveal himself to others around the world.

He DID reveal Himself to others around the world. Perhaps not by the method or within the time frame which pleases you, nevertheless, there are few places in the world today in which He has not revealed Himself.

Let’s see you do that in the same way he did – NOT with Twitter or Facebook, but by word of mouth.

billwhit1357 said:
Who cares what this idiot thinks of people who think the killing of a mass murderer is ok? I know I don’t!

And you can believe he doesn’t care that you don’t.

billwhit1357 said:
And people pay money to see this Progressive Puke? Why is he even news?

Because he’s a LOT more entertaining and informative than you are or ever will be. You must learn to live with it, my son.

billwhit1357 said:
God, please rid America of these scumbags!

I guess you’re not a Christian by Maher’s explanation here. Repent.

billwhit1357 said:
And Maher, why don’t you go back to sucking Obma’s Penis, seems that is all your good at! Now, Eat Feces and Live you Scumbag!

Tsk tsk… Jealousy is a sin.

I always appreciate the instructions on how to be a Christian from anti-American atheists like Maher. Liberals are such arrogant and presumptuous fools.

Snidely said:
The Navy SEALs were not acting to convert the wicked, they were acting to eliminate a threat to their country.

Reasonable, righteous, logical, and just………………everything Liberals have problems with.

Snidely said:
Christians, like all religions who believe themselves to own truth, are intolerant of those with whom they disagree.

No. Christians do NOT believe themselves to own the truth, and are NOT intolerant of those with whom they disagree. Hypocrites are. That’s Maher’s point.

I snipped out the first part of your ridiculous hyperbole because it doesn’t merit comment.

Snidely said:
The Navy SEALs were not acting to convert the wicked, they were acting to eliminate a threat to their country.

They were following orders, period. It wouldn’t have mattered to them if they had been ordered to kill the Pope, dope.

Davo said:
I always appreciate the instructions on how to be a Christian from anti-American atheists like Maher. Liberals are such arrogant and presumptuous fools.

Really? Why don’t you tell us which part of Maher’s “New Rule” regarding hypocrites is NOT TRUE? Everything he said conforms with the words of New Testament Scripture. You sound more like the arrogant, presumptuous and pompous fool to me.

hgovernick said:
No. Christians do NOT believe themselves to own the truth…………..

Really? Why don’t you tell us which part of Maher’s “New Rule” regarding hypocrites is NOT TRUE? Everything he said conforms with the words of New Testament Scripture.

“I am the Way, the Truth, and the LIght. No one comes unto the Father bur by me.” Sorry, hgovernick, Chritstians DO consider Jesus’ above declaration as exclusive to the truth as He stated it is. However, Christians also believe God when He says “judge not, lest ye be judged” as respecting only God’s exclusive authority to determine the eternal destination of another’s soul, reflecting the “tolerance” we embrace as described within the perimeter of the Constitution.

Maher is perverting the teachings of Jesus to bolster his contempt for Christians. Jesus spent quite a bit of His time explaining the importance of good stewardship of one’s blessings. Turning the other cheek never meant to allow enemies to slaughter the innocent with impunity.

After spending over 3 adult decades studying the New Testament, I categorically disagree with your theology, and decline your and Maher’s instructions in the matter. But thanks for the offer.

Davo said:
“I am the Way, the Truth, and the LIght. No one comes unto the Father bur by me.”.

That should be “burb my me.” His first miracle was to provide fine wine for a wedding festival, where .08 was only beginning.

See thats the point hgovernick it doesn’t matter that he Didn’t reveal himself to others around the world. He would apparently rather work in mysterious ways and spread his word in a super inefficient manner, this omi potent being who has no limits. He likes to sit back and watch multiple religions fight each other over confusion on who is right and wrong. This does not sound like a logical god to me. Somehow he revelaed himself to the muslims but they don’t seem to buy that Jesus was the messiah guess he’s not to good at convincing. That goes for the Jews the Hindus the buddist, the shintos and whatever other religion in south american or africa that doesn’t care for him. He is using man a flawed vessel to try and move his word around the planet?. He almost sounds like a government worker.

Once you start to question yourself about the logic of religion you will not find many answers

I do not consider myself to be a christian but do believe in a Higher Power, therefore I not only felt good about obl being killed I also put the American Flag out the next day to celebrate his death. At one time in this country if a mass murderer and an enemy of America was killed people would unite and rejoice. All that I see on this board is people saying stupid things with the exception of Michaeal_T and hgovernick. Also just because someone is an athiest it doesn’t mean they are anti American.

Montecore said:
All that I see on this board is people saying stupid things with the exception of Michaeal_T and hgovernick. Also just because someone is an athiest it doesn’t mean they are anti American.

Speaking of “saying stupid things,” who do you think claimed atheists are anti-American? Being an atheist doesn’t automatically make one anti-American. But most anti-Americans ARE both Democrat and atheist.

By anti-American do you mean someone who questions the policies of its govt? Or do you mean people who decry everything america does.

Bill Maher is absolutely correct. Sometimes he makes the best preacher of all. I know he proclaims his disbelief but I have to defer to his perfect sense of logic. I’m sure that he is not aware of all the words in the Bible that line up with his assertion about rejoicing over the death of your enemy–but this time God really agrees with Bill. Here is the perfect reference: Rejoice not when the enemy falls , and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles. Lest the Lord see it, and it displease Him, and He turn away His wrath from your enemy.” Proverbs 24:17-18 The Bible also states that God was disgusted when they burned the bones of one of their enemies to lime. But as Bill also points out, we are so far from what the “Real Jesus” taught that modern day Christianity (so called ) is barely recognizable. Also Bill, it was the hypocrites that you distain that killed and hated Jesus. You are definitely on the right track.

.War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice–is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature, who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other….”~John Stuart Mill

When it goeth well with the righteous, the city rejoiceth: and when the wicked perish, there is shouting. (Proverbs 11:10)

The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked. (Psalm 58:10)

I guess cross hairs are back in now that Maher is using them. Didn’t hear any liberal whiners bashing him for it. Did you???

Ad Homonym Sir! Truth is independent of it’s speaker. Identifying a reason for an opinion’s existence does not invalidate it. If you don’t wish to be told told that you aren’t allowed to have an opinion on corporate tax rates because you aren’t a corporation or educational reform because you aren’t a child, than you will do unto others as you would have done unto yourself and consider this man’s opinion. 

This is a fair analogy, but to say that is to acknowledge that cheering for his death is wrong. In this metaphor, cheering for the death of Osama Bin Laden is breaking the rules.

As you pointed out later in this thread, the only prerequisite for heaven that christ stipulated was belief in him. He however, did call us to be like him. We do sin, it goes without saying, and that is why he sacrificed himself, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t try to stop. Futile as our efforts to purify ourselves might be (as Martin Luther discovered after years of ceaseless confession and devotion to purity) and in full understanding that it is only by the grace of god that we are saved, and not through our works of faith, that doesn’t stop purity from being worth perusing, for that is what piety is. It is not perfection by any means, it is the pursuit of it.

It isn’t relishing the death of your enemy that stopes you from being a christian, it is refusing to acknowledge that it is wrong.