Journolist Members Trash Keith Olbermann as Misogynist, Pompous
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The Daily Caller has published the latest of its Daily Journolist Leaks, and this time, the supposed liberal cabal is eating one of their own. Countdown host Keith Olbermann is the subject of this installment, in which the J-listers trash him as “sexist” and “misogynist,” mainly over his treatment of Carrie Prejean and Hillary Clinton. While I disagree with the Daily Caller’s publication of the emails, and their petulant handling thereof, this round also illustrates what angers me about Journolist and Olbermann.
First of all, the contents of Journolist were intended to be private and off-the-record. While Daily Caller may have a fig leaf on the off-the-record thing if the emails were leaked by a 3rd party (a mighty big IF when you consider that a Daily Caller reporter was on Journolist), that doesn’t make it right.
The Olbermann emails center around his treatment of Carrie Prejean, and of then-Senator Hillary Clinton. Some highlights:
The Nation’s Katha Pollitt began the group’s rant. “He and Michael Musto did this whole long riff about beauty contestant Carrie “opposite marriage” Prejean’s breast implants, stupidity, breast implants, tacky clothes, earrings, breast implants. They went on and on about how she was “part plastic” and pathetic. You’d think they were celibate vegans who spent their lives zen meditating. It was just a whole TV humiliation of her, and it made me feel sorry for her, which wasn’t easy,” Pollitt said.
…Julian Zelizer, a Princeton professor and CNN contributor, said Olbermann’s root problem is his misogyny. “I can’t take him anytime. I think to write off his mysogyny as limited to Musto is just not accurate. That very much defined much of how he talked about Clinton as well as others.”
What pisses me off here is that I have consistently, respectfully, and fairly pointed out that Olbermann’s series of sexually-charged attacks against Prejean were unacceptable, and were undermining his otherwise excellent work. My Mediaite colleague, Rachel Sklar, also called Olbermann out during the 2008 campaign for his comments about Hillary Clinton, comments for which he apologized.
I can’t speak for Rachel, but I know I got nothing but hostility from my fellow liberals, who didn’t see the use in defending Prejean, or in criticizing Olbermann. Better to let him sit there and get smelly, instead of telling him he’d stepped in it. All the while, these same folks were happily outraged about it behind the scenes. This is not strictly a liberal phenomenon, as you don’t see very many conservatives rushing to denounce Andrew Breitbart in public for smearing Shirley Sherrod, do you?
Keith Olbermann, meanwhile, frequently uses Journolisters as guests and contributors on his show, a gravy train that might now end. Aside from Dave Weigel, possibly, Olbermann has shown little desire to be disagreed with.
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Traitor Joe Klein , as most know now , is the Daily Caller ’s source for the Journolist . It’s time to resign , Joe . Go back home to the Ozarks . You’ll be welcomed home again , even after Primary Colors . You denied it and then you admitted it . You’ll deny giving up the Journolist , until you admit it . Go back to the homeplace , Traitor Joe . Bring your banjo .
Tommy, you say “While I disagree with the Daily Caller’s publication of the emails”….
You mean to tell us if a 3rd party had offered these to you and Mediate you wouldn’t have run with it? Somehow I find that disingenuous at best. Even though the story goes directly against your liberal leanings, the “scoop”, notariety and revenue associated with it leads me to believe you (and especially Dan Abrams) would have jumped all over it.
“the contents of Journolist were intended to be private and off-the-record.”
When has that ever stopped liberal reporters from harming an individual or the Military?
“While he won’t always get agreement, or worship, or an ego boost, he will always get a fair shake,”
Olbermann wants total agreement, not a fair shake.
1.) Greg Sargent exchanged emails with Tucker Carlson about posting the full Journolist emails. As Sargent says, “This would have allowed readers to evaluate the full context and significance of these emails for themselves.” Carlson stated he will not do so. Why? Sargent has a sound theory that makes perfect sense: “But as Matthew Yglesias, Ezra Klein and others have been pointing out, these stories are highly misleading and based on very selective publication of J-List emails. And indeed, it’s really hard to grasp the justification for not publishing fuller chains, particularly since the Daily Caller apparently views these emails as so newsworthy. Perhaps publishing them would make it tougher to paint J-Listers as a secretive and omnipotent political cabal, rather than just a bunch of geeks and eggheads venting and arguing about politics.”
2.) Ezra Klein goes into more detail about Tucker Carlson asking to join Journalist and a Daily Caller writer being an active part of Journolist. “Tucker’s note doesn’t bother to mention the actual questions that have been raised: That his stories have misstated fact, misled readers, and omitted evidence that would contradict his thesis. He doesn’t explain how a thread in which no journalists suggested shutting down Fox News can be headlined “Liberal journalists suggest government shut down Fox News.” He doesn’t tell us why an article about the open letter that originated on the list left out the fact that I subsequently banned any future letters from the list. He doesn’t detail why his stories haven’t mentioned that one of his own reporters was on the list — his readers would presumably be interested to know that the Daily Caller was part of the liberal media conspiracy.”
Later on he shares Carlson’s email asking to join Journolist and wraps it up by stating Carlson’s true motives: web traffic: When I e-mailed him to ask about some of these omissions, his response was admission mixed with misdirection. “I don’t have nearly the grounding in this that Strong does, but according to him you often come off as a voice for moderation, and I’m pretty sure he will make that clear in a subsequent story.” Ah, the old “we’ll be more truthful later.”
Tucker chose the good story over the real story. His traffic numbers reflect the popularity of his choice. Journolist has taken the Daily Caller from about 50,000 hits a day to more than 200,000. There are a lot more answers in those numbers, I fear, than in his editor’s note.
Yeah, I think “TOP SECRET” and “CLASSIFIED” trumps “Off the record” any day, and its not like the Daily Caller was part of the list therefore not bound by the playground rules. They haven’t revealed their source, so its no different than saying “…obtained from a unamed Whitehouse official on conditions of anonymity …” and then blurting out things that were never meant for public consumption.
You can demand a double standard all you want.
“First of all, the contents of Journolist were intended to be private and off-the-record.” – Why would the posters on Journolist expect to be treated differently than how they treat others…
There is this thing called “The Golden Rules” One of them was telling you to “Do onto others as you would do onto you!
Granted Journalist today have never heard about this…
But when you anoint yourself to the privileged class … you expect to be treated differently!
“First of all, the contents of Journolist were intended to be private and off-the-record.”
Privacy died a long time ago with 24 hour news broadcasts, rag magazines, the internet and cell phone cameras. That’s about the most ridiculous and retarded thought, statement and intention.
Finally, somthing I can get onboard with.
I agree with people who state that it is unrealistic for Journolist members to expect privacy in this day and age. However, it is perfectly reasonable for them to be upset with Carlson and his site for deliberately taking things out of context and for running stories that “have misstated fact, misled readers, and omitted evidence.” Carlson says the Journolist members aren’t journalists and give the profession a bad name. How are his actions, deliberately distorting the truth, any better?
So, you’re mad because your fellow liberal jounos didn’t want you publicly criticizing “one of your own” and defending “one of the enemies” but they trashed him privately?
Or are you mad because you think Olbermann is someone who produces excellent work, and they think he is a misogynistic, pompous joke and they trash him behind his back?
Not that I believe Palin is Presidential material and she should be questioned appropriately. Misogyny is mild to describe olberdork’s approach to her . It borders on pathologic.
“The second line of attack we’ve encountered since we began the series is familiar to anyone who has ever published a piece whose subject didn’t like the finished product: “You quoted me out of context!”
The short answer is, no we didn’t. I edited the first four stories myself, and I can say that our reporter Jonathan Strong is as meticulous and fair as anyone I have worked with.
Anyone on Journolist who claims we quoted him “out of context” can reveal the context himself. Every member of Journolist received new threads from the group every day, most of which are likely still sitting in Gmail accounts all over Washington and New York. So feel free to try to prove your allegations, or else stop making them.”
http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/letter-from-editor-in-chief-tucker-carlson-on-the-daily-callers-journolist-coverage/
as a dyed in the wool true blue American Liberal I would no more listen to Olby than I would to
El rushbo-in my mind both are toilets filled with vile poison that refuse to flush.
I see Olby and El Rushbo followers are sad demented fools with the same pathology that
is screwing up our country.
These are the same people who think that Dick Morris is credible or that Joe Biden is a genius.
Yes idiocy is truly bi-partisan.
Our country needs perspective.
Now Tucker Carlson? A true elitist lightweight as the journolist non-story proves.
LOL!
Tommy, “I can’t speak for Rachel, but I know I got nothing but hostility from my fellow liberals…”
“…my fellow liberals…” Tommy why don’t you try removing your autographed “White House Kneepads” and just try to write something objective once.
And “You People” yes I said “You People” wonder why your profession is going down the toilet.
So sara you just take Carlson at his word and that’s that? He would never lie or distort or go to any length to defend himself and his site for how they have handled this? We just all have to take him at his word?
Well, at least they got one thing right.
Good one!
Did Olbermann’s comparing the Clintons to Nazis and Klansman in the service of Obama fall under the category of his “otherwise excellent work”? You are on ideological crack!
It is a mistake to suggest that all conservatives love Rush Limbaugh. It is also a mistake to suggest that all liberals love Keith Olbermann (who has what a million viewers a night if he’s lucky?).
“You mean to tell us if a 3rd party had offered these to you and Mediate you wouldn’t have run with it?”
timzank
No, he wouldn’t. Tommy is a true believer, the kind of white leftist who is a slave to leftist dogma and political correctness. He also thinks he is superior to those ordinary white people who have the common sense (or first-hand experience) to realize that leftist/progressive thought is destructive for American society. He would never have published Journolist.
Tommy would only publish a conservative “journolist”. He, and Mediaite, are part of the leftist propaganda machine.
I can’t stand Limbaugh. And I can remember him on the air in Sacramento way back in 1987. A college friend of mine claimed he knew a guy who’d sold him pot, and I was told this back in ‘91-’92. Back then he actually used to be kind of funny. Maybe it was the pot.
I don’t know AZ, I think Abrams would have forced the issue for the revenue…..Abrams is a liberal too, but like most of them, seems dollar signs will always temporarily suspend their mantra until after the check clears.
TC: “… I got nothing but hostility from my fellow liberals, who didn’t see the use in defending Prejean…”
Think about that for a minute. They didn’t see the “use”. This is why people, generally speaking, loathe the media. People to them are something to be “used” or “not used”. They don’t see people as human beings, and this attitude comes from the liberal mindset. Minorities, homosexuals, women… Society to these people are broken down into groups to be used for personal gain.
So, in other words, you’re know the Spaghetti Reporter for Tucker Carlson? well, he’s always made odd choices.
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I love when people assume they know what I would do. I would not publish off-the-record emails from the left OR the right, as evidenced by the fact that I haven’t.
“I don’t know AZ, I think Abrams would have forced the issue for the revenue…..Abrams is a liberal too, but like most of them, seems dollar signs will always temporarily suspend their mantra until after the check clears.”
I hope you are right and I am wrong. But based on the leftwing slant of Mediaite, I wouldn’t bet money on it.
You’re right about the potential. The first Dave Weigel releases caused the Daily Caller server to crash (it was linked from Drudge). I’ve also read Tucker Carlson saying that the numbers (hits) for his site are just ridiculous now. Releasing Journolist has moved the Daily Caller to the big leagues.
BTW, DC has broken stories slamming Republicans, in particular the shenanigans of Michael Steele’s staff. Carlson appears to have good sources.
I doubt if you understand the trauma these folks are going through, Tommy. I know I don’t. The exposure and emasculation of Breitbart and FOX News is as if Santa Claus were revealed to be Islamic.
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I’m shocked, shocked I tell you:
Obama Campaign Adviser Participated on JournoList
Jared Bernstein, chief economist for Vice President Joseph Biden, served in 2008 as an economic adviser to the Obama campaign. At the same time, he was a member of JournoList, the controversial progressive email list.
Bernstein’s bio at Politico, which appears not to have been updated since 2008, states: “He is an economic adviser to the Obama campaign.”
He was known to many for his regular appearances on the financial channel CNBC. His primary employer in 2008 was the Economic Policy Institute, a pro-labor progressive think tank, but according to his bio when appointed to the Obama-Biden Administration, he also was a member of the Panel of Economic Advisers of the Congressional Budget Office.
Reached today at the Office of the Vice President, Bernstein revealed that his position with the Obama campaign was as something called a “surrogate.” “I was not paid by the campaign,” he explained. “They would call me from time to time to represent their positions, that side of the debate.”
Asked when he left JournoList, Bernstein replied, ‘‘I think I left the list around the time I came here.” Bernstein was announced as Chief Economist and Economic Policy Adviser to the Vice President-elect on December 8, 2008.
One question that has arisen in the last week is how closely JournoList members, not only discussed how to shape the news to advance the fortunes of Barack Obama, but coordinated with the Obama campaign. Jared Bernstein’s position as an unpaid adviser and surrogate shows that there was at least one direct link between JournoList and the Obama campaign.
Bernstein’s serving on the Economic Advisory Panel of the CBO is less worrisome, though it appears to violate Ezra Klein’s first rule for JournoList:
At the beginning, I set two rules for the membership. The first was the easy one: No one who worked for the government in any capacity could join.
It would appear that Bernstein’s presence on the list violated Klein’s first rule, since he met the test of working “for the government in any capacity.”
Yet note Klein’s careful wording here. People who worked for the government in any capacity couldn’t join, but could they stay on the list if they took a government job after joining?
Were there other campaign advisers or part-time government officials who participated on JournoList?
UPDATE: Here is an example of Bernstein’s humorous political writing at the Huffington Post.
2D UPDATE: I have an anonymous source who has shown me an email thread that appears to be from JournoList. From his search of the JournoList archives, he believes that Bernstein’s last direct email to the list was on December 5, 2008, a charming farewell sent 3 days before he was introduced as Biden’s chief economist. Indeed, months later there were several emails to the list from members who wondered how to contact Bernstein.
http://volokh.com/2010/07/22/obama-campaign-advisor-participated-on-journolist/
Would you publish classified government material that someone broke the law to give you ?
You really don’t have a problem with a group of journos this large conspiring to swing elections under the guise of free press? Seriously? Even you are brighter than that aren’t you?
What did mediaite report regarding the emails from Palin? I don’t remember, just asking. What was your position on the kid (son of a dem congressman I think) who hacked into her private emails? Please refresh my memory on how mediaite addressed that storyline?
Yes, Michelle — collusion between team Obama and the liberal media via journolist is a damning story…surprised there isn’t a headline on that here yet! (HAHA)
I wonder why the j-listers didn’t criticize Olbermann for his misogynistic commentary on Palin, but only on the dems? (snicker).
Mr. Abrams. I would let it go. We all know you hate Kieth Olberman. That’s fair. But you are starting to look like a sore looser. No one is denying your right to hate him but, you have turned your site into a place for revenge. Quite petty
King, O’Reilly’s only mistake was not listening to the entire Sherrod tape. The charge that the NAACP is racist is valid. They’ve had as guest speakers the virulent racists Rev. Wright and Louis Farrakhan, and cheered on their racist remarks. (You remember Farrakhan, King. He’s the one you can’t comment on because he isn’t ‘present’.)
The Palin email hack predates our site’s existence, and while I didn’t write about it personally (another writer at my then-employer beat me to it), I’ve been a very vocal defender of Palin from over-the-line attacks.
To your last point, the J-listers’ main focus actually was on a conservative, Carrie Prejean.
Tommy boy is more concerned about Daily Caller’s publication of the Journolist emails than about what the contents of the emails actually reveal about the liberal journalists that were part of the clan (the list). Give me a break, Tommy. Take off the liberal rose-tinted glasses and think/write objectively once in a blue moon. You’re so predictable.
And Tommy, next time you want to call someone’s actions petulant, please, please take a good look in the mirror first. Just saying.
You raise an interesting point that I kind of missed in the article, the degree of newsworthiness. Every journalist has to make the calculation between the degree to which releasing information serves the public good, versus the potential harm. That’s where journalistic training comes in.
Calling Olbermann pompous is like saying Ted Bundy was bad. It doesn’t even begin to cover it.
If no one comes forward to prove that Carlson took them out of context, then yea, I believe him.
Fight Back Against The Pompous Tommy Christopher!
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I think it is very newsworthy and important to know that members of the liberal media conspired to help Obama win the election, bury stories that hurt him, label his opponents racist, shut down a conservative news organization and planned their attack on Palin.
You are very trusting sara. Does it have anything to do with the fact that you agree with Carlson on this?
It’s also interesting that Carlson claims he isn’t posting all of them due to their “banal” nature. So even though the majority of them are “banal” the listserv is still somehow a grand, well-organized, and dangerous conspiracy?
No one tried to shut down a conservative news organization sara! That did not happen. Categorically, 100% false. This is the problem with just taking Tucker at his word.
Guess that “Debunks” the Rights latest LIE that the media protects “LEEBRULS”. Since it’s proven they “trash” both sides. What’s $ister $arah’s excuse NOW. POOR SCARED LITTLE “DEATH PANEL’ TWITTER FACEBOOK LIAR needs a new excuse for her inability to answer serious questions for the “Lamestream Media”.
Oh Weston, still waiting on your opinoin of your bogus Gallup poll saying Dem’s are ahead in a generic ballot. I mean, I know why you are ignoring me, but it’s getting embarrassing for you.
No Paul, but shouldn’t the fact that members of the media, give you just a little bit of pause?
Sorry, that should have been members of the media want to.
Carlson made reference to that when he editorialized about Journolist yesterday. Everyone keeps their mail. Everyone. (and I can’t imagine that journalists don’t do it religiously) Carlson challenged anyone on the list to come forward with emails revealing that any of the stuff that he’d printed so far was taken out of context.
Paul, “not posting all of them” does not equate to “the majority.” How did you arrive at the conclusion that the “majority” of the journolist postings are banal from the statement Carlson made? I was just wondering because your conclusion there seemed like a jump to me.
Paul, “not posting all of them” does not equate to “the majority.” How did you arrive at the conclusion that the “majority” of the journolist postings are banal from the statement Carlson made? I was just wondering because your conclusion there seemed like a jump to me.
Tucker Carlson: Most of Journolist Archive “Banal”
http://www.frumforum.com/tucker-carlson-most-of-journolist-archive-banal
From the article that you linked, Carlton used the phrase “a lot” which does not equate to most.
Holy semantics Batman! How do you differentiate between “most” and “a lot”?
“Journolist Members Trash Keith Olbermann…”
Who doesn’t?
Thinking further, I wouldn’t doubt that some of it was taken out of context, but to prove it was, someone would have to come forward with emails that perhaps would be more damning that what Carlson printed. A little game, maybe?
Nobody has to defend Breitbart. He did nothing wrong.
If an employee of mine was accused of something serious, I would suspend them and check the facts before I would fire anyone. How dumb was the Obama administration? They hurt Sherrod not Breitbart.
If they had followed my procedure they would have made fools out of Breitbart and any others that jumped to conclusions without checking the facts first.
You’re correct Mr. Christopher, occasionally everyone does “step in it..” No matter how careful one is. For the volume of KO output, he doesn’t step in it too often though.
Unlike his foes at Faux News.
Hmmmm wonder where you got that from?
http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/21/liberal-journalists-suggest-government-shut-down-fox-news/2/
“In other words, Journolist is extremely important because it was a place where liberal elites congregated to synchronize their line of attack, but Journolist is extremely unimportant because a lot of what was going on on the list was “bitchy” and “banal.” ” ~Frances
And he didn’t say a majority, he said “a lot”.
LOL! So funny that you jump at that one…
Anyway, in my list making I misstated, I should have said – they discussed whether it was possible that the gov could pull their FCC license. In other words – shut down the opposition.
One person wondered if it was possible. A writer for Time replied “You really want political parties/white houses picking and choosing which news organizations to favor?”
And that is it sara. The conservation moved on. There is nothing more to it than that. So the headline “FOX HUNT: Liberal journalists suggest government shut down Fox News” is a distortion of epic magnitude, to say the least.
Again, what is the difference between “majority” and “a lot”? Please explain. Seems like semantics to me.
Sorry, this is off topic. I was going to email it to Mediaite, but who are we kidding, they wouldn’t touch it. I’d just get another email from Colby to “check myself:.
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Michelle where are you from?
I’ve been an outspoken, politically-active liberal since Keith was still a towel boy and as I’ve said in the past, I can’t really watch his show because of what could be termed pomposity, but mostly I don’t like anyone who feels they must explain every little thing. The fact that he gets so puffed-up is part of it, but I often grow impatient listening to him or his guests to do a wordy “Schoolhouse Rock” about how politics and governing are done, especially since they are all such newbies, they don’t always know.
As for his misogyny, I’ve generally left it to others to call him out, but he was the nerdy kid who chased around jocks. The nerd boy probably didn’t do well with girls and some of the athletes he was trying to impress had the attention of so many, they felt at ease belittling them as some kind of male-bonding, fraternization ritual.
It may be dime store psychology, but I’m sure that just like in his youth, Keith is still getting accolades for his intelligence and he still wants to be cool. Of course, I don’t know that I’ve ever written this down before and maybe someone would like to call me on it, but whenever I’ve revealed in a blogpost or a comment that I don’t care much for his current style, I haven’t received a lot of flak and many of those who have given me a nudge, a lot of them are just trying to be protective of the in-crowd.
Look Tommy I know your mad about Tucker posting this stuff, but do you really believe there is no journalistic meat to them. You may see a “fig leaf” but you know Tuckers rep. This is a guy that stood against the Iraq war when it would have been in his best interest as a conservative to back it… took guts. If Ezra had added him to Jounolist there is no way he would break the off the record rule… I think you know that.
There is a story here… period. Deepthroat broke his oath and the story was worth it. As long a member of the press says there are going to present the facts and be fare than it IS a story to show they are not. Even if there efforts sometimes failed… it’s still a story that they tried.
The election of 2008 was covered in a unique way by some members of the press… the New Yorker admitted as much on CNN. I think it is a story that should be exposed so that we as voters and citizens know all the facts, and motivations behind stories brought to us by people with an agenda.
Tommy: Thanks for the feedback on the Palin email hack story.
The J-List story is a HUGE story, but the media folks seem to want to cover it up….while screaming about lack of transparency in government…..they are clamming up to ensure lack of transparency regarding j-list story.
I am surprised I haven’t seen Palin’s response posted here, it should be.
The funniest thing of all, TVNewser is completely silent on the story….not a peep.
The latest regarding the Obama staffer who was a member of J-list, and after Obama was elected, invited J-listers to the WH is a pretty big story too. collusion between media and a presidential candidate was always suspected, but now with proof positive, it is no wonder the media is trying to discredit Tucker rather than admitting the errs of their own ways.
Kind of like Obama – point fingers everywhere except at themselves.
Cover ups? Conspiracies? Collusion? It’s like a meeting of the John Birch Society around here.
@tatboy: “Meat”, what meat? Today we learned that a couple of guys on a mailing list didn’t care for Keith Olbermann’s style and yesterday, a commenter to this blog spammed the place with something a 26(?) year old blogger suggested that was met with deathly silence from others on the list.
What makes it even odder is that the fellow who made the suggestion was actually dismissed from his most legitimate gig because he inappropriately volunteered in a blogpost to skullf**k a terrorist’s corpse. So it’s not like he has a reputation for holding his tongue and that’s probably why he currently blogs for a tech site that has been nicked for questionable journalistic standards.
There’s nothing there. Carlson’s site threw out a couple of over-hyped bits about Palin, Wright and Fox to draw in the clicks and now he’s settling a score with Olbermann.
Well I guess it just comes down to opinion? If you think there is nothing there newsworthy than nothing I say will convince you. I do agree they are over-hyped… hot headlines to draw in the clicks. Thank God no other news sites do that ;). You make good points i just disagree. I think there is enough there to publish… your reading about it aren’t you?
One must remember, just because someone from the left-wing media declares something is not newsworthy, that does not mean it is true.
When the left-wing media say somehthing is controversial that doesn’t make it true.
When the left-wing media claims something someone said is racist doesn’t make it true.
Almost everything the left-wing media says is not true.
Tommy,thanks for the response. As an outsider (consumer) watching an industry trying to redefine its ethics, to keep pace with its changing medium, I wonder if sometimes the degree of newsworthiness is directly or inversely related to the degree of seperation.
Not sure what evidence exists – if any – that identifies Joe Klein as the culprit, but it is amusing to see just how friendless he is. I mean, does anyone like this guy?
@tatboy: Yeah. I have to admit that I’ve been reading them when they’ve been linked from here or another site. I’ve been a registered commenter on the Daily Caller since it first went live, but it hasn’t become part of my daily diet.
Of course now that he’s score-settling, first with Olbermann because of the belittling tweets toward him and his website, I’m sure they’re digging to find somebody saying something against Jon Stewart. If it were me, I’d try to make tomorrow’s “revelation” something worth mentioning on a Sunday show and then either on Sunday or Monday, I’d expect the headline to say that Stewart is short.
olbermann is an idiot. he is very arrogant and instead of dialoging or reporting he rants and raves. his worst, worser, and worstest portion of the show has the same 6-7 conservative commentators everytime. i actually liked the guy on ESPN before I saw him spouting his liberal B.S. on msnbc. Him and maddow are two peas in a pod. they will likely both lose their mind and go crazy in november when the conservatives(repubs) kick the dems a## out of congress. then Commadant Obama won’t be able to pass anymore of his communist manifesto through.
Tommy Christopher, it’s hacks like you who are the problem. False equivalency is slimy and dishonest and it’s what most of the writers on this site specialize in. Is Keith Olbermann a smartass who can be cruel in the way he ridicules people? Yes. Is this in any way comparable to conscious, habitual liars like Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity or the other popular right-wing mouth-breathers? No.
Olbermann does not doctor footage (like Breitbart), does not send semen-crusted little stalker-producers out to harass people who criticize him (like Falafel O’Reilly), does not run a concert scam nor lead a baying mob of necrophile fundies to hassle a man who pulled the plug on his dead wife (like Hannity) and is NOT a white supremacist dope addict (like Limbaugh). For you (or these passive-aggressive weenies on Journolist) to try present heckling and ridicule as in any way comparable to lying, race-baiting and other forms of thuggery is proof of YOUR dishonesty and lack of character.
As for the
HeathersJournolist twerps, talking smack about people behind their backs is pure chickenshit, so I have no sympathy for their exposure by Tucker Carlson (chickenshit being an area of his expertise).Breitbart did NOT edit any tape. And now, Shirley thinks Breitbart wants all blacks to be slaves.
This woman has taken her 15 minutes of fame and turned into nothing more than a Cindy Sheehan. What a clymer she is turning out to be.
The good old media calls her Nelson Mandella (quote Gergan, that jerk)…..and the media has gotten their new talking points from the new journolist (cabalist).
Pathetic.
Hey, where is Palin’s response on Journolist? Too good for ya’ll to post here?
Breitbart edited the tape or he got someone else to do it for him. If not, why doesn’t he expose the person who he says gave it to him?
I’m a fan of his show. He is entertaining, even if his ad hominem attacks sometimes make me cringe – especially his coverage of Prejean(spelling?). But he does strive to practice real journalistic integrity. That’s beside the point I guess.
Anyways, I think it’s good that if all of this is true, he deserves a kick in the pants so to speak. Having a huge ego is OK, whatever. But if you’re a dick to your staff and treat women negatively because they’re women, well, that has to stop.
That said, it’s amazing that conservatives are championing an anti-misogynist cause. Guys, that ball has never and will never be in your court.
Correction: I had to revisit the questionable email that I referenced to an earlier comment to footnote a response that I gave to another post and I now see that the 26(?) year old blogger was more likely 27. I also learned that my memory was somewhat faulty from too many “Journolists” because it had been another controversial email that had met silence, while that particular theme was simply shot down.
@Jelperman: Breitbart says that someone mailed him the two clips. He obviously did some enhancing because I don’t think his source added the slides and I don’t know if he had pared the original submission, but throughout his appearances that were embedded on this site, he said that he had only received the clips and not the full video.
I’ve actually theorized once or twice in comments to this and another blog that he may have been victimized by ACORN because he was so thoroughly taken down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX_Ps-JSa3M&feature=related
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