Colby you’re such a left leaning hack

9/11 Bill ‘Christmas Miracle’ Seen
Supporters of the bill believe that the smaller price tag—the overall cost was cut to $6.2 billion from $7.4 billion—combined with a different method of paying for the legislation, will be enough to win yes votes from Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Mark Kirk of Illinois and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, according to people familiar with the discussions. Three other Republicans are also considered possible supporters of the altered version of the bill.

Source WSJ

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How does what he wrote contradict your quote? One: He is reporting on a Senator’s suggestion that the increasing momentum is due to increased media coverage by the Daily Show and Fox News. Now other media outlets are reporting on the bill’s movement.

Two: There was little momentum before the media shined the light on this bill, as per usual. I doubt that the negotiations on the bill would have been as successful without it. Perhaps without it, recent supporters would have thought 6.2 billion was still too expensive.

This would be very good news. If we factor out the Tea Partiers, the Southern Evangelicals and those who shamelessly pander to them like Bitch McConnell and Jim Demented, there are still some Republicans in our country who are fine people, with both sense and compassion. Those of us interested in building a fair, compassionate, safe America need to concentrate on the good ones and let the other swim in their own cesspools. They are truly the People Who Have Walked in Darkness and Eschew the Great Light. Grumps McCain might be factored out as well. It’s not so much he’s indecent as it is he’s just so cranky and so erratic.

Yargburger said:
How does what he wrote contradict your quote? One: He is reporting on a Senator’s suggestion that the increasing momentum is due to increased media coverage by the Daily Show and Fox News. Now other media outlets are reporting on the bill’s movement.

Two: There was little momentum before the media shined the light on this bill, as per usual. I doubt that the negotiations on the bill would have been as successful without it. Perhaps without it, recent supporters would have thought 6.2 billion was still too expensive.

He is saying that the Republicans were shamed into this
which is alright FALSE
THEY ARE ACTUALLY VETTING THE DAMN BILL!!

Atticus Draco said:
He is saying that the Republicans were shamed into this
which is alright FALSE
THEY ARE ACTUALLY VETTING THE DAMN BILL!!

AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT DONE YET BTW!
They’re still negotiating the dang thing
this is far from over!
(unfortunately,, it’s gonna be done behind closed doors,, WHICH I DONT APPROVE!)

Fact: Hahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahah…..In a post on the Daily Kos…Hahahahahahahahahah!!!!!

If ANYTHING,, if TRUTH BE known,,
It’s the democrats that LOOK SHAMEFUL in this deal
YOU KNOW,, THEY STILL HAVE THE MAJORITIES!
THEY CANT GET SOMETHING AS A “NO BRAINER” AS THIS THROUGH THE DAMN CONGRESS!!

The Real Royal King said:
This would be very good news. If we factor out the Tea Partiers, the Southern Evangelicals and those who shamelessly pander to them like Bitch McConnell and Jim Demented, there are still some Republicans in our country who are fine people, with both sense and compassion. Those of us interested in building a fair, compassionate, safe America need to concentrate on the good ones and let the other swim in their own cesspools. They are truly the People Who Have Walked in Darkness and Eschew the Great Light. Grumps McCain might be factored out as well. It’s not so much he’s indecent as it is he’s just so cranky and so erratic.

Original co-author is REPUBLICAN Peter KIng. King had enough Republican votes originally to pass it. Why did the Dems change the procedural plateau to a super majority the day before the vote when they had more than enough votes???????

The Real Royal King said:
Bitch McConnell and Jim Demented

The Real Royal King said:
a fair, compassionate, safe America

As a pretend good Catholic , who hates so much with great passion , I spoke to the Lord yesterday . I said , Lord , give me some new catty names for Republicans , for they are unbelievers in your fellow Lord Obama . He told me I could keep using the name Boner , until I came upon a better one , and keep demonizing the children of the Palins , as it is doing Lord Obama ‘ s work . Amen .

Atticus Draco said:
t’s the democrats that LOOK SHAMEFUL in this deal

If you’re just dealing with appearances, no, that is not true. The 9/11 First Responders are the great heroes of our time, and many of them lack insurance coverage for their various serious injuries. The image of the Republicans is one of someone holding a gun to Lassie’s head and shooting her just after she alerted Gramps Miller Timmy had fallen into the well. Of course, that’s image, and we ought to be concerned with substance. The substance is: these men and women were there for us, and we are abandoning them.

timzank said:
Original co-author is REPUBLICAN Peter KIng. King had enough Republican votes originally to pass it. Why did the Dems change the procedural plateau to a super majority the day before the vote when they had more than enough votes???????

By all means, let’s ignore the substance and wrap ourselves in procedural apologies. Let’s not work to do the right thing for these good people.

The Lantern of Truth said:
As a pretend good Catholic , who hates so much with great passion , I spoke to the Lord yesterday . I said , Lord , give me some new catty names for Republicans , for they are unbelievers in your fellow Lord Obama . He told me I could keep using the name Boner , until I came upon a better one , and keep demonizing the children of the Palins , as it is doing Lord Obama ‘ s work . Amen .

I’ll make a deal with you, Kumquat. I’ll tend to matters of my vocation and my salvation, and you do something about your ignorance and your sloppy ethics.

It’ll be interesting to see how Bill O’Reilly somehow takes credit for these developments.

BFD said:
It’ll be interesting to see how Bill O’Reilly somehow takes credit for these developments.

i dont think he has mentioned it,,
maybe back in the summer he did
and if he mentioned it recently,, it was only a blip

Atticus Draco said:
If ANYTHING,, if TRUTH BE known,,
It’s the democrats that LOOK SHAMEFUL in this deal
YOU KNOW,, THEY STILL HAVE THE MAJORITIES!
THEY CANT GET SOMETHING AS A “NO BRAINER” AS THIS THROUGH THE DAMN CONGRESS!!

yeah they have the majorit, but it is the hypocritical repubs that can cause a filibuster on this bill…where the hell have you been this past year?
and i may ask, why the hell do you and the repubs oppose this bill? do you have the much hate for the president that you would put the health of those great americans who responded on 9/11 in jeopardy?
the repubs may be shamed into voting for this? wow…kyl, who sided with are enemies against the start treay?
or maybe you can ask vitter and ensign about feeling shame.

Atticus Draco said:
If ANYTHING,, if TRUTH BE known,,
It’s the democrats that LOOK SHAMEFUL in this deal
YOU KNOW,, THEY STILL HAVE THE MAJORITIES!
THEY CANT GET SOMETHING AS A “NO BRAINER” AS THIS THROUGH THE DAMN CONGRESS!!

Please use your inside font.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
yeah they have the majorit, but it is the hypocritical repubs that can cause a filibuster on this bill…where the hell have you been this past year?
and i may ask, why the hell do you and the repubs oppose this bill? do you have the much hate for the president that you would put the health of those great americans who responded on 9/11 in jeopardy?
the repubs may be shamed into voting for this? wow…kyl, who sided with are enemies against the start treay?
or maybe you can ask vitter and ensign about feeling shame.

quit your demagoguery
Just like ObamaKare,, the dems tried to ram this down the Republicans,, (and the peoples) throat
THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW THE REPUBLICANS TO VET,, OR ADD AMENDMENTS TO IT!!
THE DEMOCRATS DELIBERATELY PLAYED POLITICS WITH THIS DAMN THING!!!
THOSE DAYS ARE OVER

SO SAYS THE TEA PARTY!!!

Atticus Draco said:
quit your demagoguery
Just like ObamaKare,, the dems tried to ram this down the Republicans,, (and the peoples) throat
THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW THE REPUBLICANS TO VET,, OR ADD AMENDMENTS TO IT!!
THE DEMOCRATS DELIBERATELY PLAYED POLITICS WITH THIS DAMN THING!!!
THOSE DAYS ARE OVER

SO SAYS THE TEA PARTY!!!

AGAIN,, THEY STILL OWN MAJORITIES!
IT’S THE MINORITY BRINGING DEMOCRACY TO THIS ISSUE
THANK GAWD!

The Real Rabid Kook said:
If you’re just dealing with appearances, no, that is not true.

To hell with the facts, eh Kook?

His supporters say he died from respiratory disease contracted at ground zero, but New York City’s medical examiner said Zadroga’s lung condition was caused by prescription drug abuse.

It is getting to sound like the 90,000 farmers getting a settlement from the government for discrimitation when there were only 6,000 to begin with.

Hey…it is a good way to buy votes….IT’s NY for Christ Sake…It is HOW WE DO THINGS OUT HERE!

Lord what fools these Righties be….

BatBoy said:
City’s medical examiner said Zadroga’s lung condition was caused by prescription drug abuse.

i did not know that!

Pablo said:
To hell with the facts, eh Kook?

Moron. The only permissible inference of my comment is that the Republicans are trying to reduce this to image, since they so miserably fail on substance. Nothing else is rational. Is English not your first language?

The Real Royal King said:
…like Bitch McConnell

Speechless but not surprised.

Atticus Draco said:

BatBoy said:
City’s medical examiner said Zadroga’s lung condition was caused by prescription drug abuse.

i did not know that!

Can we think of any reason the City Medical Examiner might reach such a conclusion? Let’s all put on our thinking caps.

Oregon Conservative said:
Speechless but not surprised.

… and not unwelcome.

city medical examiner lying king, shit

cjd ohio 1 said:
city medical examiner lying king, shit

And who ever said the telegram was a lost means of communication?

The Real Royal King said:
Can we think of any reason the City Medical Examiner might reach such a conclusion? Let’s all put on our thinking caps.

That would be a criminal offense IF what you’re implying were TRUE King
you understand that right?

a government employee lying, no way king, sorry doesn’t happen

The Real Rabid Kook said:
The only permissible inference of my comment…

Guess again, Kook. When you leave these little tells lying around, don’t blame me for picking up on them.

Atticus Draco said:
That would be a criminal offense IF what you’re implying were TRUE King
you understand that right?

Yes, I do, and I know it happens nonetheless. It is not at all uncommon for the family of a city employee killed in the line of duty or of a criminal suspect to have a private autopsy because the city (or county/parish) is flawed, sometimes due to negligence or error, sometimes otherwise.

shit king, you mean the government can be dishonest, say it isn’t so

nighean donn said:
nighean donn says:
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What fools Dims are for packing pork onto this bill. Dims can’t pass a bill without pork- no matter how meritorious the foundation of the bill may be.

notsofast said:
What fools Dims are for packing pork onto this bill. Dims can’t pass a bill without pork- no matter how meritorious the foundation of the bill may be.

Don’t worry your little head over it love.

If the Republicans do the right thing and take care of these selfless heroes, America wins.

If the Republicans play little games over this and slap our selfless heroes in the face, the Republicans lose.

BatBoy said:
His supporters say he died from respiratory disease contracted at ground zero, but New York City’s medical examiner said Zadroga’s lung condition was caused by prescription drug abuse.

so says the medical examiner who works for the city, a claim that several examiners dispute…including the previous ny medical examiner and the guy who does those cool hbo shows michael baden (who also happens to be a contributor to fox news).
ya think the guy who still works for the city might have some reason to back that claim up?

notsofast said:
What fools Dims are for packing pork onto this bill. Dims can’t pass a bill without pork- no matter how meritorious the foundation of the bill may be.

and repubs can’t even vote AGAINST a bill with THEIR OWN pork in it!

ChiliPeppersFan said:
and repubs can’t even vote AGAINST a bill with THEIR OWN pork in it!

*sounded better before i wrote it but you get my drift.

The Real Royal King said:
Can we think of any reason the City Medical Examiner might reach such a conclusion? Let’s all put on our thinking caps.

i have to say, i came to the same conclusion before seeing this post…only reading the article in the ny times.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9400EFDA1E3CF934A3575AC0A96E9C8B63&ref=jameszadroga

ChiliPeppersFan said:
i have to say, i came to the same conclusion before seeing this post…only reading the article in the ny times.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9400EFDA1E3CF934A3575AC0A96E9C8B63&ref=jameszadroga

lol,,, C’MON!!
The article in The New Yorker largely sides with Dr. Hirsch’s findings, suggesting that Detective Zadroga had misused prescription drugs because of an abiding despair about what he had seen at ground zero.

PLEASE!

These folks have no shame, they are shameless. They can ask for $200m worth of pork, but when it comes to doing something worthwhile, they want to stall on it and then kill the bill in the middle of the night.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Hahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahah…..In a post on the Daily Kos…Hahahahahahahahahah!!!!!

I bet you have NEVER visited KOS! One needs to have a brain to read articles on KOS. There is no comparison to your posts here and what people post on that site. You are an idiot.

Atticus Draco said:
quit your demagogueryJust like ObamaKare,, the dems tried to ram this down the Republicans,, (and the peoples) throatTHEY WOULD NOT ALLOW THE REPUBLICANS TO VET,, OR ADD AMENDMENTS TO IT!!THE DEMOCRATS DELIBERATELY PLAYED POLITICS WITH THIS DAMN THING!!!THOSE DAYS ARE OVER SO SAYS THE TEA PARTY!!!

Yep, if it is not passed by the time the extreme right wingers take over, it will never get passed. Face it, you and your ilk care more about the tax break for the upper 2% billionaires than you do for the real heroes. By the way, the 1st responders are exceedingly disappointed in the GOP.

Oh, when you respond, please use upper/lower case as you were taught in school. All upper case typing is very rude.

Atticus Draco said:
lol,,, C’MON!!The article in The New Yorker largely sides with Dr. Hirsch’s findings, suggesting that Detective Zadroga had misused prescription drugs because of an abiding despair about what he had seen at ground zero. PLEASE!

Let’s see, if you disagree with what The New Yorker says, you call it a liberal rag. If you agree, it doesn’t matter how the magazine leans, you quote it. Glad to see your all caps are not as prevalent as before.

Dear Friends:
Little Batboy is sometimes impatient and forgets to read to the end of the story. Let’s see if we can help him out.

BatBoy said:
His supporters say he died from respiratory disease contracted at ground zero, but New York City’s medical examiner said Zadroga’s lung condition was caused by prescription drug abuse.

It is getting to sound like the 90,000 farmers getting a settlement from the government for discrimitation when there were only 6,000 to begin with.

Hey…it is a good way to buy votes….IT’s NY for Christ Sake…It is HOW WE DO THINGS OUT HERE!

And now in the inimitable words of Paul Harvey THE REST OF THE STORY:
Looking for a third opinion, Zadroga’s family turned to Dr. Michael Baden, the New York State Police chief forensic pathologist. Baden, who had previously reviewed the case, said he agreed with the New Jersey medical examiner, finding that Zadroga’s lung damage was caused by inhaling Ground Zero poisons.

“He suffered inflammation of the lungs due to inhaling particulate matter while at the World Trade Center,” Baden said.

Baden said Zadroga had a type of “black lung” disease typically seen in coal miners and caused by inhaling particulate matter.

Under a microscope, “You could see glass fibers there,” Baden said. “You don’t get that from injecting drugs.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/10/26/2007-10-26_city_says_drug_use_not_dust_killed_911_h-2.html

early beloved:

Timzank apparently thought the following was a contribution to the discussion:
“Original co-author is REPUBLICAN Peter KIng. King had enough Republican votes originally to pass it. Why did the Dems change the procedural plateau to a super majority the day before the vote when they had more than enough votes???????”

What difference does it make? If it were wrapped in a red bow instead of a blue one Republicans would have voted for it??? Clearly not, given the recent remarks of J. Kyl.

“That’s Dearly”

No, No, No.

chatmandu002 said:
No, No, No.

Is that an original thought, or did you simply translate from the German, “Nein! Nein! Nein!”?

chatmandu002 said:
No, No, No.

I can only assume that you were giving your opinion of the first responders. I cannot think of a thing to say in response to such heartlessness. Maybe, you’re cold, cold, cold.

This bill is a joke .. nothing more than the democrats throwing more tax payer dollars at their union supporters, If i had to guess .. i’d say the SEIU has probably been the driving force behind all this. I’m sure they would love to see 7 billion dollars dumped into New York City hospitols.

Atticus Draco said:
If ANYTHING,, if TRUTH BE known,,
It’s the democrats that LOOK SHAMEFUL in this deal
YOU KNOW,, THEY STILL HAVE THE MAJORITIES!
THEY CANT GET SOMETHING AS A “NO BRAINER” AS THIS THROUGH THE DAMN CONGRESS!!

They can’ty get anything through, because the Repugs have declared they won’t get anything through until they got their way on taxes for the rich. They got their way. Now I guess they’re going to let this bill pass, now that Jon Stewart has trashed them for holding it up.

Majority does not rule in America, and you know it.

rshaw said:
This bill is a joke .. nothing more than the democrats throwing more tax payer dollars at their union supporters, If i had to guess .. i’d say the SEIU has probably been the driving force behind all this. I’m sure they would love to see 7 billion dollars dumped into New York City hospitols.

You ignorant, selfish piece of garbage! A lot of those gave their lives for others. You and you ilk are nothing but a bunch of selfish, hypocritical phony “patriots” who have never done a damned thing for anybody. Garbage.

First responders already have health care coverage. The 6 billion dollars in this bill are going towards the 50,000+ that cleaned up ground zero. Should we provide healthcare coverage for all mine workers? What about all those people in Los Angeles who breathe all that smog? This is exactly the type of politically correct waste that is sending up into absurd levels of debt.

Why not build them all golden coffins while we’re at it?  These idiots never stop wasting money.