Barack Obama, Marxist student

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/barack_obama_marxist_student.html

The phrase “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” was a reference to the Deist Creator, rather than the God of Christianity.

“Neither in my private life nor in my writings have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.”
–SIGMUND FREUD (1856-1939)

Hey Mr. President:
“We know what you’ve been shoveling all along!”

You Bring the Truth To The People, Sarah!!

YOU BETCHA’!!!

At least we now know that the lunatic-left d-crat socialists have chosen to use “the Creator” as a CODE WORD for “BIG GOVERNMENT” – which the lunatic-left really, really believe is the source of ALL of our rights.

Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
The phrase “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” was a reference to the Deist Creator, rather than the God of Christianity.

So what?

“…the President caused a firestorm by many on the right …’ So the left don’t care , or they expect no better from this man ? …

Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
The phrase “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” was a reference to the Deist Creator, rather than the God of Christianity. “Neither in my private life nor in my writings have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.”–SIGMUND FREUD (1856-1939)

That is the truth, however uncomfortable to many. Pure Deism. For Christians a heresy along the lines of Beckerheadism. Nothing at all necessarily Christian about “Creator”. Could well mean simply energy. Of course, the founders most crucial in our constitutional documents were unabashed Deists.

AnonymousFinch said:
So what?

It is historically incorrect to claim that America was “founded upon Christianity.”

Great article in the Washington Post today on the Black Panther voter intimidation story.

The article completely justifies FNC’s Megyn Kelly’s argument that the issue was one that went way beyond the intimidation angle into a questionable policy/philosophy of Eric Holder and the DOJ.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/22/AR2010102206650.html?sub=AR

Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
It is historically incorrect to claim that America was “founded upon Christianity.”

I had a good friend who used to say “well America was founded on Christian principles” and I would ask, “which principles are uniquely Christian?” When he asked what I mean I pointed out that there aren’t any principles that are uniquely Christian. All the principles in Christianity, and contained in our Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were around before Christianity was. Christianity may have unique doctrine, which seems to fluctuate quite a bit, bit it doesn’t have any principles that it can claim as it’s own. It has to share those with other religions and philosophies.

Cecelia said:
Great article in the Washington Post today on the Black Panther voter intimidation story. The article completely justifies FNC’s Megyn Kelly’s argument that the issue was one that went way beyond the intimidation angle into a questionable policy/philosophy of Eric Holder and the DOJ. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/22/AR2010102206650.html?sub=AR

What does that have to do with this thread, Cecelia? That would be a “no-no” over at the Phan Klub.

Oh, my God; Barry finally read the Declaration. How quaint.

Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
Neither in my private life nor in my writings have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.”
–SIGMUND FREUD (1856-1939)

And his theories are now on the ash pile of history

.

Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
The phrase “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” was a reference to the Deist Creator, rather than the God of Christianity.

Not true!

Early Years
The First Charter of Virginia (granted by King James I, on April 10, 1606)
• We, greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their Desires for the Furtherance of so noble a Work, which may, by the Providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the Glory of his Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian Religion to such People, as yet live in Darkness and miserable Ignorance of the true Knowledge and Worship of God…

Instructions for the Virginia Colony (1606)
Lastly and chiefly the way to prosper and achieve good success is to make yourselves all of one mind for the good of your country and your own, and to serve and fear God the Giver of all Goodness, for every plantation which our Heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted out.

William Bradford
• wrote that they [the Pilgrims] were seeking:
• 1) “a better, and easier place of living”; and that “the children of the group were being drawn away by evil examples into extravagance and dangerous courses [in Holland]“
• 2) “The great hope, and for the propagating and advancing the gospel of the kingdom of Christ in those remote parts of the world”

The Mayflower Compact (authored by William Bradford) 1620 | Signing of the Mayflower painting | Picture of Compact

“Having undertaken, for the glory of God, and advancement of the Christian faith, and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one of another, covenant and combine our selves together…”
______________________________________________________________________

John Adams and John Hancock:
We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]

John Adams:
“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
• “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” –October 11, 1798

“I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen.” December 25, 1813 letter to Thomas Jefferson

“Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell.” [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817] |

Samuel Adams: | Portrait of Sam Adams | Powerpoint presentation on John, John Quincy, and Sam Adams
“ He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” [ "American Independence," August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia]

“ Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.” [October 4, 1790]

John Quincy Adams:
• “Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day [the Fourth of July]?” “Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer’s mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity”?
–1837, at the age of 69, when he delivered a Fourth of July speech at Newburyport, Massachusetts.

“The Law given from Sinai [The Ten Commandments] was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code.”
John Quincy Adams. Letters to his son. p. 61

Charles Carroll – signer of the Declaration of Independence
” Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure…are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.” [Source: To James McHenry on November 4, 1800.]

Benjamin Franklin:
“ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” –Constitutional Convention of 1787 | original manuscript of this speech

“In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for Divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered… do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?” [Constitutional Convention, Thursday June 28, 1787]

In Benjamin Franklin’s 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach “the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern.”

In 1787 when Franklin helped found Benjamin Franklin University, it was dedicated as “a nursery of religion and learning, built on Christ, the Cornerstone.”

Alexander Hamilton:
• Hamilton began work with the Rev. James Bayard to form the Christian Constitutional Society to help spread over the world the two things which Hamilton said made America great:
(1) Christianity
(2) a Constitution formed under Christianity.
“The Christian Constitutional Society, its object is first: The support of the Christian religion. Second: The support of the United States.”

On July 12, 1804 at his death, Hamilton said, “I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me.”

“For my own part, I sincerely esteem it [the Constitution] a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests.” [1787 after the Constitutional Convention]

“I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man.”

John Hancock:
• “In circumstances as dark as these, it becomes us, as Men and Christians, to reflect that whilst every prudent measure should be taken to ward off the impending judgments, …at the same time all confidence must be withheld from the means we use; and reposed only on that God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human counsels are but foolishness… Resolved; …Thursday the 11th of May…to humble themselves before God under the heavy judgments felt and feared, to confess the sins that have deserved them, to implore the Forgiveness of all our transgressions, and a spirit of repentance and reformation …and a Blessing on the … Union of the American Colonies in Defense of their Rights [for which hitherto we desire to thank Almighty God]…That the people of Great Britain and their rulers may have their eyes opened to discern the things that shall make for the peace of the nation…for the redress of America’s many grievances, the restoration of all her invaded liberties, and their security to the latest generations.
“A Day of Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer, with a total abstinence from labor and recreation. Proclamation on April 15, 1775″

Patrick Henry:
“Orator of the Revolution.”
• This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed.”
—The Last Will and Testament of Patrick Henry

“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” [May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]

“The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.”

John Jay:
“ Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” Source: October 12, 1816. The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, Henry P. Johnston, ed., (New York: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393.

“Whether our religion permits Christians to vote for infidel rulers is a question which merits more consideration than it seems yet to have generally received either from the clergy or the laity. It appears to me that what the prophet said to Jehoshaphat about his attachment to Ahab ["Shouldest thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?" 2 Chronicles 19:2] affords a salutary lesson.” [The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, 1794-1826, Henry P. Johnston, editor (New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1893), Vol. IV, p.365]

Thomas Jefferson:
“ The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend to all the happiness of man.”

“Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus.”

“I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.”

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital) [Source: Merrill . D. Peterson, ed., Jefferson Writings, (New York: Literary Classics of the United States, Inc., 1984), Vol. IV, p. 289. From Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781.]

The Real Royal King said:
What does that have to do with this thread, Cecelia? That would be a “no-no” over at the Phan Klub.

Well, you’re a “no-no” over at Johnny Dollar’s Place too, because your lying.

However, you’re allowed to carry on here.

If you have a beef take it up with Mediaite.

Notsofast—- game set match there. Seems for a guy that is the One, he sure as hell has an issue with actually acknowledging, the One. He is so predictable, what a hack. Did he get briefed on this? You can bet he did. He is playing Captian Spirituality these days and coming to a backyard near you.

CosmosDan said:
Christianity may have unique doctrine, which seems to fluctuate quite a bit, bit it doesn’t have any principles that it can claim as it’s own. It has to share those with other religions and philosophies.

Whether our founders were influenced by Christianity or not, with your logic one couldn’t suggest that Plato was influenced by Socratic principles.

Cecelia said:
Well, you’re a “no-no” over at Johnny Dollar’s Place too, because your lying. However, you’re allowed to carry on here. If you have a beef take it up with Mediaite.

Actually, no, I merely marvel at the elasticity of your principles. One seldom sees such flexibility ouside of gymnastics competition. I was never that good at gymnastics. A bit stiff and tight, I suppose. I remain suspicious of women who put holes in their earlobes. Not sure that’s proper.

Cecelia said:
Well, you’re a “no-no” over at Johnny Dollar’s Place too, because your lying.

LOL

That is nothing new. It is amazing that libs come here not to state opinions but to state lies!

And if they do state a fact, they then will add a lie to the fact to make their whole statement a lie.

The Real Royal King said:
Actually, no, I merely marvel at the elasticity of your principles. One seldom sees such flexibility ouside of gymnastics competition. I was never that good at gymnastics. A bit stiff and tight, I suppose. I remain suspicious of women who put holes in their earlobes. Not sure that’s proper

On the contrary, Patsy. I’m merely arguing that I’m not doing anything that is against the stated rules of this forum. That is hardly going against my own principles or anyone else’s.

On the other hand, you of a thousand alias and sockpuppets have “principles” that if not on ball-bearings depending upon your political objective (as in your hypocritical chiding of me here), are simply nonexistent.

And frankly, I’ve never heard a more ringing endorsement for piercings.

Here is an example of another pathetic lib caught lying!!!

cmdrgmh said:
The righties here didn’t vote for Obama and lost. Do you righties think that you are the Majority of this Country? Your not. Your nothing more then 20%.”

Why must you libs lie?

“As the leadership of the Democrat party lurches further and further towards liberal extremism, a Gallup poll reveals that most Americans identify themselves as being politically conservative and not just by a small margin. Twice as many people identify themselves as Conservative than they do liberal. According to Gallup 40% of the population consider themselves conservative, 36% believe they are moderate, and a mere 20% identify themselves as liberal.”

Cecelia said:
And frankly, I’ve never heard a more ringing endorsement for piercings.

I also question women who wear white after Labor Day and men who wear ties with short sleeve shirts, save and except December brides and Republican office holders, of course.

The Real Royal King said:
I also question women who wear white after Labor Day and men who wear ties with short sleeve shirts, save and except December brides and Republican office holders, of course.

Ahhh…. but you’ve strayed from the topic of this thread…

Cancon2 said:
Notsofast—- game set match there. Seems for a guy that is the One, he sure as hell has an issue with actually acknowledging, the One. He is so predictable, what a hack. Did he get briefed on this? You can bet he did. He is playing Captian Spirituality these days and coming to a backyard near you.

What is amazing is the lib bigotry. Imagine, living in Egypt or Saudi Arabia ,and hearing about Mohammad each day- 5 times to prayer a day.

Why would anyone, except a lib bigot, complain about their practices? Only the bigoted and racists libs would.

Cancon2 said:
Notsofast—- game set match there

Agreed. Nice work!

I think that the preferred phrase of progressive nowadays is “endowed by the Supreme Court with certain vague and changeable rights.”

Cecelia said:
Ahhh…. but you’ve strayed from the topic of this thread…

Yes, but as you so charmingly convinced me, this is not the Murdoch and Ailes derriere kissing site.

The Real Royal King said:
Yes, but as you so charmingly convinced me, this is not the Murdoch and Ailes derriere kissing site.

Yes, here, you can wax eloquent about the contents of tv programs yet to air, all you wish.

CosmosDan said:
All the principles in Christianity, and contained in our Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were around before Christianity was. Christianity may have unique doctrine, which seems to fluctuate quite a bit, bit it doesn’t have any principles that it can claim as it’s own.

So all religions have a person named Jesus who stated “I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? ”

Wow, thanks Cosmos, you have just rewritten history,. and all religious texts must now be revised.

Please tell me though how Jesus existed before Christianity existed.

Azarkhan said:
Agreed. Nice work!

Ditto!!

I’m surprised that people are still paying attention to the President’s speeches. I tuned him out months ago.

Who cares what “creator” we are endowed by. The point of this speech is that our basic rights come from someone other than MAN. So MAN can not take them away (even though he tries). Our rights and freedoms come from GOD, not from MAN. Brilliance.

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Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
The phrase “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” was a reference to the Deist Creator, rather than the God of Christianity.

The problem with that is at the time of the Declaration of Independence, something like 9 of the 13 colonies had OFFICIAL religions – all Christian, of course.

Religion and God were laced in society then. There was never a separation of church and state, only the limit in the FEDERAL government Establishing its own religion over the colonies/States.

This is why the Constitution does NOT mention God, but God is mentioned in EVERY State Constitution. Read Massachusetts Constitution for some great examples.

juan said:
Barack Obama, Marxist student http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/barack_obama_marxist_student.html

Cancon2 said:
Notsofast—- game set match there. Seems for a guy that is the One, he sure as hell has an issue with actually acknowledging, the One. He is so predictable, what a hack. Did he get briefed on this? You can bet he did. He is playing Captian Spirituality these days and coming to a backyard near you.

Paula said:
He prbably omitted it before because he couldn’t preface his reading with his normal call to prayer: “In the name of Allah, the most beneficient, the most merciful”. (You can tell Allah is merciful because when the mullahs cut off your hands for stealing bread, they do it at the wrists instead of the shoulder blades.)

This decribes you three compelety.
Foley/Boughton Racism Problem (and Bigotry)
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/diary/13169/foleyboughton-racism-problem

Frances: “The last two times he omitted them, the president caused a firestorm among many on the right ..”

Obama chose to change a founding document to suit his politics. If he didn’t like how it was worded, he shouldn’t have read it. If he did, he should have read the whole thing. But he _changed_ it, and this is what pisses people off. Obama is a punk kid who riles up idiots, nothing more.

NORBIT says:
“Hey Mr. President:
“We know what you’ve been shoveling all along!”
You Bring the Truth To The People, Sarah!!”

I never thought that I’d write this, but Karl Rove was right (once): the Tea Party is not sophisticated.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/20/karl-rove-tea-party-is-no_n_768427.html?ref=fb&src=sp

Also, I’ve read analysis by Paul Waldman and heard on some show that this next Congress will be more divided than the one we have if the Republicans take over there.

There is only one better argument for voting for Democratics than to realize that no domestic issues will get resolved if the R’s control Congress. Instead progress already made will get defunded, they will attempt to shut the gov’t down and some moron or two will want to impeach Obama because he hasn’t personally shown some Tea Party Congressman from the state of Dumbfukistan his birth certificate. Everyone who wants a dysfunctional government should vote Republican Nov. 2nd.

The biggest reason to unseat Republicans is because of the Dred Scott decision of our time, i.e. CU v FEC. Everyone who wants to have a government of the rich, for the rich and by the rich (plutocracy) should vote for R’s this November. That’s the overriding issue of this and probably the next elections. The Party of Lincoln has become the Party of “Don’t tax the rich” and to hell with the middle class.

Spread this far and wide. Take 10 minutes. Using e-mail, FB, Twitter, etc, please share this URL with every undecided and independent voter you know. Have them share it. “Populist” Glenn Beck was caught hobnobbing with the plutocrats. Share this URL:

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/becks-fake-populism-exposed-he-sides.html

GBR, have you ever written anything that was not really stupid?

Mr.Papshmer said:
GBR, have you ever written anything that was not really stupid?

Mr. P., I’ll answer for him, no.

lol…Obama only does things after HE IS BUSTED epically. What a fraud, and pendejo.

After Obama was busted about not going to church….the next week he went to church, now Obama is PUTTING BACK our Creator in Declaration of Independence after he was busted for TWICE leaving it out…lol

He has no back bone, and is weak.

If he doesn’t believe it…why act like you do.

GlennBeckReview said:
I never thought that I’d write this, but Karl Rove was right (once): the Tea Party is not sophisticated.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/20/karl-rove-tea-party-is-no_n_768427.html?ref=fb&src=sp

Mr.Papshmer said:
GBR, have you ever written anything that was not really stupid?

How is this stupid.Everything Carl says is golden, to you he is your man.You lived by his words under” W”. Now he is going senile because he speaks the truth to a paper, not in the USA no less.

TonyClifton said:
I’m surprised that people are still paying attention to the President’s speeches. I tuned him out months ago.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the one and only Mr. Tony Clifton!

Obama what a fake and fraud you are and the thing about it is the American people already have your number except for those too stupid or ignorant to see who you really are. As always when he does or says something really stupid which is often when the American people rise up he changes his tune. No one believes anything that this man says and I believe that he believes his own hype propagated by the left wing nut jobs who call themselves reporters. Hey Obama you can’t walk on water or heal the earth and no one believes that you are even competent to be President. 56% of American believe that you deserve not to be re elected. I never felt you should have been elected in the first place. I am a democrat and what a pathetic state that we have become by having a socalist marxist idiot in the white house.

I was worried for a minute. GBR almost made it through an entire post without mentioning Beck. But there at the end, he didn’t disappoint. That was close!

ROCKSTEADY said:
How is this stupid.Everything Carl says is golden, to you he is your man.You lived by his words under” W”. Now he is going senile because he speaks the truth to a paper, not in the USA no less.

Stay out of my head…. AAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Seriously though, you’re a douche.

GlennBeckReview said:
I never thought that I’d write this, but Karl Rove was right (once): the Tea Party is not sophisticated.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/20/karl-rove-tea-party-is-no_n_768427.html?ref=fb&src=sp

Mr.Papshmer said:
“GBR, have you ever written anything that was not really stupid?”

ROCKSTEADY says:
“How is this stupid.”

RockSteady, anything that doesn’t fit into their far-right, reactionary way of thinking is deemed “stupid,” “insane,” “fascist,” etc. It’s a strategy to shut down adult conversation about the issues. Beck is a master of that. Their name-calling points to an under-developed maturity, an adolescent frame of mind.

What is funny in this case is that he says I’m writing something “really stupid,” when I was conveying what Karl Rove told that German newspaper. That’s not just immature; it’s not real sharp analysis either. Either that or Karl Rove is “really stupid” too.

Reactionaries: love them or hate them, they’re a great source of entertainment.

notsofast said:
And his theories are now on the ash pile of history

.

Not true!

Early Years
The First Charter of Virginia (granted by King James I, on April 10, 1606)
• We, greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their Desires for the Furtherance of so noble a Work, which may, by the Providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the Glory of his Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian Religion to such People, as yet live in Darkness and miserable Ignorance of the true Knowledge and Worship of God…

Instructions for the Virginia Colony (1606)
Lastly and chiefly the way to prosper and achieve good success is to make yourselves all of one mind for the good of your country and your own, and to serve and fear God the Giver of all Goodness, for every plantation which our Heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted out.

William Bradford
• wrote that they [the Pilgrims] were seeking:
• 1) “a better, and easier place of living”; and that “the children of the group were being drawn away by evil examples into extravagance and dangerous courses [in Holland]“
• 2) “The great hope, and for the propagating and advancing the gospel of the kingdom of Christ in those remote parts of the world”

The Mayflower Compact (authored by William Bradford) 1620 | Signing of the Mayflower painting | Picture of Compact

“Having undertaken, for the glory of God, and advancement of the Christian faith, and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one of another, covenant and combine our selves together…”
______________________________________________________________________

John Adams and John Hancock:
We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]

John Adams:
“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
• “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” –October 11, 1798

“I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen.” December 25, 1813 letter to Thomas Jefferson

“Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell.” [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817] |

Samuel Adams: | Portrait of Sam Adams | Powerpoint presentation on John, John Quincy, and Sam Adams
“ He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” [ "American Independence," August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia]

“ Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.” [October 4, 1790]

John Quincy Adams:
• “Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day [the Fourth of July]?” “Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer’s mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity”?
–1837, at the age of 69, when he delivered a Fourth of July speech at Newburyport, Massachusetts.

“The Law given from Sinai [The Ten Commandments] was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code.”
John Quincy Adams. Letters to his son. p. 61

Charles Carroll – signer of the Declaration of Independence
” Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure…are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.” [Source: To James McHenry on November 4, 1800.]

Benjamin Franklin:
“ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” –Constitutional Convention of 1787 | original manuscript of this speech

“In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for Divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered… do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?” [Constitutional Convention, Thursday June 28, 1787]

In Benjamin Franklin’s 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach “the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern.”

In 1787 when Franklin helped found Benjamin Franklin University, it was dedicated as “a nursery of religion and learning, built on Christ, the Cornerstone.”

Alexander Hamilton:
• Hamilton began work with the Rev. James Bayard to form the Christian Constitutional Society to help spread over the world the two things which Hamilton said made America great:
(1) Christianity
(2) a Constitution formed under Christianity.
“The Christian Constitutional Society, its object is first: The support of the Christian religion. Second: The support of the United States.”

On July 12, 1804 at his death, Hamilton said, “I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me.”

“For my own part, I sincerely esteem it [the Constitution] a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests.” [1787 after the Constitutional Convention]

“I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man.”

John Hancock:
• “In circumstances as dark as these, it becomes us, as Men and Christians, to reflect that whilst every prudent measure should be taken to ward off the impending judgments, …at the same time all confidence must be withheld from the means we use; and reposed only on that God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human counsels are but foolishness… Resolved; …Thursday the 11th of May…to humble themselves before God under the heavy judgments felt and feared, to confess the sins that have deserved them, to implore the Forgiveness of all our transgressions, and a spirit of repentance and reformation …and a Blessing on the … Union of the American Colonies in Defense of their Rights [for which hitherto we desire to thank Almighty God]…That the people of Great Britain and their rulers may have their eyes opened to discern the things that shall make for the peace of the nation…for the redress of America’s many grievances, the restoration of all her invaded liberties, and their security to the latest generations.
“A Day of Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer, with a total abstinence from labor and recreation. Proclamation on April 15, 1775″

Patrick Henry:
“Orator of the Revolution.”
• This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed.”
—The Last Will and Testament of Patrick Henry

“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” [May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]

“The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.”

John Jay:
“ Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” Source: October 12, 1816. The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, Henry P. Johnston, ed., (New York: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393.

“Whether our religion permits Christians to vote for infidel rulers is a question which merits more consideration than it seems yet to have generally received either from the clergy or the laity. It appears to me that what the prophet said to Jehoshaphat about his attachment to Ahab ["Shouldest thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?" 2 Chronicles 19:2] affords a salutary lesson.” [The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, 1794-1826, Henry P. Johnston, editor (New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1893), Vol. IV, p.365]

Thomas Jefferson:
“ The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend to all the happiness of man.”

“Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus.”

“I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.”

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital) [Source: Merrill . D. Peterson, ed., Jefferson Writings, (New York: Literary Classics of the United States, Inc., 1984), Vol. IV, p. 289. From Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781.]

Read a copy of the Jefferson Bible. It is available online. Jefferson was not a Christian. He was a Diest as was George Washington.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Seriously though, you’re a douche.

Another cleverbot here. ahha Good one.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Stay out of my head…. AAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

And which small head are you speaking of Sir?

ROCKSTEADY said:
And which small head are you speaking of Sir?

Hahahahaha!!! That’s so funny! You must be really cool!

Im numerous speeches he gave on the Republic, Noah Webster explains why America is founded on Christianity, and why republics of antiquity have faded away. As one of the founders of the American Republic, and leading Christian apologetic of that era, he often stated that he believed they gave the world it ‘s first Christian republic. This explicit statement can be found in the preamble of the first Noah Webster dictionary.

The following are excerpts from a speech Webster gave in New Havern in 1802, on the anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. “The American revolution had “unfolded a series of great events suited to accomplish important purposes in the economy of divine providence, which ever Christian must contemplate with delight.”

Webster notes to his audience that the event was designed to commemorate the real objects of revolution, specifically the “dignity and character attached to the new sovereignty.” Here Webster notes numerous other countries who have experimented in democracies or republicanism,where they all “ended in nothing.” He describes what he believed was a fundamental difference in Character between America and those countries, noting the fundamental difference between a Christian Republic and Republics of antiquity, where apparently even the best form or representation can be easily corrupted by papular sentiment. “We have constitutions of government, or fundamental compacts, which proscribe abuses of power, by defining the exact limits of right and duty, and controlling both rulers and people. But how long will a constitutional barrier resist the assaults of faction? From the nature of things, the words of a fundamental code must be general, to comprehend cases which cannot possibly be specified; and of course, liable to be extended, or frittered away by construction. The danger from this quarter is imminent, and hardly admitting of a remedy, when popular jealousy is excited against the constitution, and the rights or the prejudices of the people are to be favored, by enlarging or abridging its powers. When a magistrate becomes more popular than the constitution, he may “draw sin as it were with a cart-rope”* in the work of extending his power over the instrument which was intended to restrain usurpation. Whatever vanity and self-confidence may suggest, in favor of the restraints of a paper compact, all history and uniform experience evince, that against men who command the current of popular confidence, the best constitution has not the strength of a cobweb. The undisguised encroachments of power give the alarm and excite resistance . . . but the approaches of despotism, under cover of popular favor, are insidious and often deceive the most discerning friends of a free government.

Webster could easily be talking about modern day liberals who “under cover of papular favor, are insidious and often deceive the most discerning friends of a free government.”

“Virtue,” says the learned, but visionary Montesquieu, “is the foundation of a republic.” . . . “Virtue will maintain a free government,” is echoed and reechoed by the political enthusiast . . . Where is this virtue, and what is it? Among the ancient Greeks and Romans, it was personal bravery, and enthusiastic love of military glory, and a heroic contempt of death, in the service of their country. This species of virtue, so often displayed by the citizens of ancient democracies, is not exclusively the property of republicans. It was found as vigorous and pure under the old monarchy of France, as in Athens or Sparta; and is still as energetic a principle in Denmark, Sweden, or Great-Britain. It proceeds from early habits, and a strong attachment to the place where men are born, and to the customs, manners, and government, in which they are educated. It is the growth of every soil, and the production of every age. Yet this species of virtue, never yet preserved a republic from decay.

If by virtue, writers mean pure morals, we shall all agree that such virtue is the true, safe, and permanent foundation of a republic; and so it is, of every other species of government. But when have pure morals adorned the character of a whole nation? A free government founded on exact and universal morality might be durable, if such morality could be enforced, and guarded from declension: . . . but this presupposes what history and observation, do not authorize us to expect.

Some enthusiasts preach to us the self denial of the Spartans, their frugal meals, their rigid discipline, and contempt of riches. Others urge the example of the Chinese, who restrain commerce to preserve their manners from corruption, and their religion and government from innovation. But such examples are inapplicable; for they suppose a condition of society, which would admit of such restraints; or a rigor of despotism which no free nation would now bear. An attempt to restrain commerce, in a state where commercial habits prevail, would occasion a revolution. Even an attempt to introduce the iron money of Sparta into modern Turkey or Russia, would probably shake the throne, and convulse the empire, of the prince who should hazard the experiment.

If there is a possibility of founding a perfectly free government, and giving it permanent duration, it must be raised upon the pure maxims, and supported by the undecaying practice, of that religion, which breathes “peace on earth, and good will to men.” That religion is perfectly republican . . . it is calculated to humble the pride and allay the discontents of men . . . it restrains the magistrate from oppression, and the subject from revolt . . . it secures a perfect equality of rights, by enjoining a discharge of all social duties, and a strict subordination to law. The universal prevalence of that religion, in its true spirit, would banish tyranny from the earth. Yet this religion has been perverted, and in many countries, made the basis of a system of ecclesiastical domination, which has enslaved the minds of men, as political power had before enslaved their bodies. To correct these evils, a set of fanatical reformers, called philosophers, charging that oppression to the religion itself, which sprung only from its abuses, have boldly denied the sacred origin of Christianity, and attempted to extirpate its doctrines and institutions. Strange, indeed, that the zealous advocates of a republican government, should wage an inveterate war against the only system of religious principles, compatible with rational freedom, and calculated to maintain a republican constitution! . . .

But vain are the speculations of closet-philosophy! Baseless and fleeting are the illusions of theory! All forms of government have been tried, from the theocracy of the Israelites, to the splendid paper constitutions of the French reformers. And where are they? What have been their duration and success? Like the vast cities of antiquity, the most of them are known only in story, or their moss-grown ruins alone are left, as proofs that they once existed. Some of them, like the massy pillars of Palmyra, broken and defaced, still exhibit evidence of their ancient splendor, and appear magnificent even in ruins. Others, like the stupendous walls of Babylon, have been so totally swept away by the ravages of time, that not a stone or a moldering column remains to tell where they stood.

If such has been the fate of all former systems of government, must we indulge the melancholy thought, that such is to be the fate of ours? Let us examine the foundations of our systems . . . to determine, if possible, whether they will sustain the magnificent edifice of freedom and happiness, which their projectors have contemplated.

The eminent characters who have conducted the revolutions in England and America, have laid it down as a fundamental principle in government, that by nature all men are free, independent, and equal,’ and this principle, without definition or limitation, forms a main pillar of our constitutions.

Noah Webster said: “If there is a possibility of founding a perfectly free government, and giving it permanent duration, it must be raised upon the pure maxims, and supported by the undecaying practice, of that religion, which breathes “peace on earth, and good will to men.” That religion is perfectly republican . . . it is calculated to humble the pride and allay the discontents of men . . . it restrains the magistrate from oppression, and the subject from revolt . . . it secures a perfect equality of rights, by enjoining a discharge of all social duties, and a strict subordination to law. The universal prevalence of that religion, in its true spirit, would banish tyranny from the earth. Yet this religion has been perverted, and in many countries, made the basis of a system of ecclesiastical domination, which has enslaved the minds of men, as political power had before enslaved their bodies. To correct these evils, a set of fanatical reformers, called philosophers, charging that oppression to the religion itself, which sprung only from its abuses, have boldly denied the sacred origin of Christianity, and attempted to extirpate its doctrines and institutions.”

armwood said:
Read a copy of the Jefferson Bible. It is available online. Jefferson was not a Christian. He was a Diest as was George Washington.

Your point is of little use when you consider all of the other evidence. The fact is the Colonies were laced with religion – Christian religion.

Glen Beck Review Said:

“Everyone who wants to have a government of the rich, for the rich and by the rich (plutocracy) should vote for R’s this November. That’s the overriding issue of this and probably the next elections. The Party of Lincoln has become the Party of “Don’t tax the rich” and to hell with the middle class.”

GBR, this is delusional class warfare of the worst kind but not entirely untrue since Republicans and Democrats both have power concerns that readily override our ‘s when it comes to what are supposed to be limits placed on Government .

Does this mean we should prefer we be governed of and by the poor and underprivileged?, who’s policies will by your own admonition be punitively measured to the rich (which you really mean middle class too) as a way to even the score, or level the playing field! You really mean we should prefer an oligarchy right GBR? At least you are delusional both ways, meaning, since you still think Hawaii was legally (that means by lawful constitutional methods) brought into the Union in 1959. “A Congressional Act that violates the law of the land is without force of law.” I mention this because it always baffles me how liberals say on one hand they are against institutional racism and that they seek equality for all regardless of race etc., yet they always stumble at the corner stone of liberty when it comes to Hawaii and the institutional wardship Congress codified into law at Statehood. Using among other things, the Commerce Clause, which presupposes Plenary jurisdiction of Congress over “native Hawaiians” (who live 2000 miles outside of the U. S. continent!), Congress both manufactures and sustains a racist institution and State, and Liberals in Washington are silent on the Constitution???? Hawaii is a de facto state where legitimacy is concerned because not only was Congress without constitutional grounding to promulgate laws over foreign nationals living within their own territory, national lands etc, they had not consulted with the native population whatsoever in regards to Independence. Hawaii Republicans are hated by Hawaiians because they feel the Republicans want to take away their federal entitlements (federal programs that are remedial in nature that give preference to Native Hawaiians). On the other hand a large portion of the Hawaiian community are libertarians who believe that everything the federal government does under the auspices of holding plenary jurisdiction over Hawaiian Nationals, is a outright fraud! Libertarian politicians always point to the need for legal redress whereas liberal politicians (Democrats) always frame Hawaii in terms of a very old lie, which is that Native Hawaiians are the “indigenous people of America.” This while they’ve already admitted they forcefully overthrew Hawaii without provocation in what is now Public Law 103-150,otherwise known as the 1993 Apology Resolution of Congress.

Obama now has a full crew looking for occasions in which he can read the Declaration of Independence with the word ‘creator’ exphasized. ONe problem is that the groups to whom he is speaking don’t like the Declaration in the first place! They want a Declaration of Entitlements….

You really have to wonder why the IDIOT DemocRAT in Kentucky is trying to dig up anything he can from Rand Paul’s college days, 30 years ago. I wonder why he wasn’t as interested in Comrade Obama’s college days where he says he was a Marxist/Revolutionary! The Leftist Media Whores really buried this YouTube Video but AmericanThinker.com found it. And now this Godless freak is omitting “endowed by their creator” from our Constitution several times until he became paranoid over the outrage!

Vote this Marxist REGIME OUT in 2012!

Mr.Papshmer said:
Frances: “The last two times he omitted them, the president caused a firestorm among many on the right ..” Obama chose to change a founding document to suit his politics. If he didn’t like how it was worded, he shouldn’t have read it. If he did, he should have read the whole thing. But he _changed_ it, and this is what pisses people off. Obama is a punk kid who riles up idiots, nothing more.

No! you people are a group of hypocritical bigots and secret racists pinning every bad thing on this president. Only bigots lie about caring about history when they are the ones rewriting history to make America more stupid, more bigoted, and more racist than they are.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/mar/13/texas-textbooks-republicans-education

armwood said:
Read a copy of the Jefferson Bible. It is available online. Jefferson was not a Christian. He was a Diest as was George Washington.

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Another blatant LIE from the IGNORANT Loons in the Progressive movement. There are VOLUMES available on Amazon and in Public Libraries for you to read that totally disprove your LIE! George Washington was a man of great faith and he carried his Bible with him everywhere he went. He made many references to God in his own handwriting and you can see this for yourself if you are ever in the Smithsonian. Almost every single one of our Founders were men of faith. That DIEST nonsense is a PROGRESSIVE LIE which will be corrected in our school text books, starting next year. Thomas Jefferson made many references to God and to Jesus Christ as did Ben Franklin. You need to educate your stupid self.

Sharonrj53 said:
Obama what a fake and fraud you are and the thing about it is the American people already have your number except for those too stupid or ignorant to see who you really are. As always when he does or says something really stupid which is often when the American people rise up he changes his tune. No one believes anything that this man says and I believe that he believes his own hype propagated by the left wing nut jobs who call themselves reporters. Hey Obama you can’t walk on water or heal the earth and no one believes that you are even competent to be President. 56% of American believe that you deserve not to be re elected. I never felt you should have been elected in the first place. I am a democrat and what a pathetic state that we have become by having a socalist marxist idiot in the white house.

Leave it a fake democrat to lie like that.
1. http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/07/survey_48_of_americans_say_oba.html

2. A fake democrat calling somebody a fake?

3. I know some democrats who are disappointed with Obama, but they aren’t stupid enough to lie about their party! No democrat would you use Right-wing lying talking points. you’re nothing but a lying bigoted right-wing idiot!

Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
The phrase “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” was a reference to the Deist Creator, rather than the God of Christianity.

You may want to check with David Barton of wall builders on that, I’ve read plenty of the writings of the founding fathers Concerning Christianity and I believe you’re mistaken. There’s plenty more where this comes from.

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” James Madison [1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia]

“Christianity is part of the common law” James Wilson,
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution,
Supreme Court Justice appointed by George Washington

“I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.” ~Thomas Jefferson [Letter to Benjamin Rush April 21, 1803]

Sunnyr said:
You really have to wonder why the IDIOT DemocRAT in Kentucky is trying to dig up anything he can from Rand Paul’s college days, 30 years ago. I wonder why he wasn’t as interested in Comrade Obama’s college days where he says he was a Marxist/Revolutionary! The Leftist Media Whores really buried this YouTube Video but AmericanThinker.com found it. And now this Godless freak is omitting “endowed by their creator” from our Constitution several times until he became paranoid over the outrage! Vote this Marxist REGIME OUT in 2012!

I feel like posting this.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jan/11/chain-email/not-a-muslim-not-mohammed/

and

Black Man in the Whitehouse=Fury of the White Male.

One of the underlying reasons, why Obama is so hated, despised by some
people in these United States, is because he is mixed race, minority male,
black man.

Some people in this country cannot stomach the idea of a black man
in the Whitehouse with his wife and children.

Regardless of the reasons that they bring forth, that he is a Muslim,
that they don’t like the fact that Obama’s Healthcare plan, has forced
the Corporate Health Industry to cover sick children.

The fact that there is a black man in the Oval Office,
without a mop and a broom, but sitting in the power seat,
has made them go bonkers.

Just read some of the signs carried by the members of the
white working class=The Tea Party, with respect to Obama.

The election of a black man, to the most powerful seat in the world,
has ripped open the Pandora’s Box of racial hatred that is alive and well
in America.

White males feel that they have to take their country back,
they want to shoot all minority males, until the White Christian Male,
is back in the jockey seat again, with the minority males under him.

Racism and Bigotry are the core of the objection to Obama.

Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
It is historically incorrect to claim that America was “founded upon Christianity.”

With a firm reliance on divine providence…

We are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights…

IF you ever read a non-revised history of the United States, you could not possibly deny that the United States was indeed founded on Judaeo-Christian principles.

I MUST believe that lollipop you’re using for a pacifier contains LSD.

PC Kryptonite said:
You may want to check with David Barton of wall builders on that, I’ve read plenty of the writings of the founding fathers Concerning Christianity and I believe you’re mistaken. There’s plenty more where this comes from. “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” James Madison [1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia] “Christianity is part of the common law” James Wilson,Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution,Supreme Court Justice appointed by George Washington “I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.” ~Thomas Jefferson [Letter to Benjamin Rush April 21, 1803]

You did a much better job in your response than I did…Thanks!

notsofast said:
Not true!

A stellar work NSF. Thanks.

As John Adams said
“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other.”

And Teddy Roosevelt:
“To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.”

C.Moore said:
Black Man in the Whitehouse=Fury of the White Male.
One of the underlying reasons, why Obama is so hated, despised by some
people in these United States, is because he is mixed race, minority male,
black man.
Some people in this country cannot stomach the idea of a black man
in the Whitehouse with his wife and children.
Regardless of the reasons that they bring forth, that he is a Muslim,
that they don’t like the fact that Obama’s Healthcare plan, has forced
the Corporate Health Industry to cover sick children.
The fact that there is a black man in the Oval Office,
without a mop and a broom, but sitting in the power seat,
has made them go bonkers.
Just read some of the signs carried by the members of the
white working class=The Tea Party, with respect to Obama.
The election of a black man, to the most powerful seat in the world,
has ripped open the Pandora’s Box of racial hatred that is alive and well
in America.
White males feel that they have to take their country back,
they want to shoot all minority males, until the White Christian Male,
is back in the jockey seat again, with the minority males under him.
Racism and Bigotry are the core of the objection to Obama.

Very Nice C.Moore.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Very Nice C.Moore.

Yes, a very nice collection of lies and bullshit.

I could have NO trouble voting for Charles Payne for president, or quite a few other black men and women. But, when the liberals find their mantras failing they always and very predictably try the race card.

It’s not that 0bama is black that I do not like him, it is that he is incompetent.

The Race card is officially NULL and VOID.

The Declaration of Independence is a historic document that says what it says. It uses the word “Creator”. Why the current president, with his college professor background, has a problem quoting the document as written reflects on him. Why is it so important to him to keep all references to God out?
Even if you profess to not believe in God, you would still use the word “Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence just to be accurate. Why this would elude a former college professor is a bit of a mystery.

njoy-d-ride said:
Why the current president, with his college professor background, has a problem quoting the document as written reflects on him. Why is it so important to him to keep all references to God out?

Because to the Modern Liberal/Progressive, all rights come from them.

Nothing is to get in their way.

Also, Obama says our Constitution has “Negative Rights”. This is liberal-speak for something other than themselves controlling things.

The fact is the Constitution was written to LIMIT the Federal Government with ENUMERATED powers, with all other powers in the hands of the States and a very nice way to make changes (the Amendment process.)

But liberals hate the Amendment process because people don’t (willingly) go along with their ideas.

AnonymousFinch said:
So what?

Exactly. SO WHAT. Some people call it a rock some a stone, its the same thing. Bush, Plant, same thing. When you have to stoop soo low to disprove anything, you are down with the bottom feeders where your kind seem to thrive, Your kind = Obama apologists and those that can separate God into some self serving entity to suit you. I checked, There was only one name on the list of attendies at the Creation. His plan was for everyone, everyone just dont feel like following the plan BUT no human is going to then RE_CREATE to suit himself. You can try, but you loose.

C.Moore says:

“Some people in this country cannot stomach the idea of a black man
in the Whitehouse with his wife and children.”

(you mean just like the lazy ass blacks who cannot stomach a white male “conservative” in the White House)

“The election of a black man, to the most powerful seat in the world,
has ripped open the Pandora’s Box of racial hatred that is alive and well
in America.”

(the blacks are the ones ripping the pandoras box open with their naked racism!)
(Obama has squandered a golden opportunity to do civil work on the race front by deciding instead to play factions against each other. Its your own Black president who betrayed you not the white man!)

“White males feel that they have to take their country back,
they want to shoot all minority males, until the White Christian Male,
is back in the jockey seat again, with the minority males under him.”

Mr. Moor, sir, your comments reveal that you are a racist yourself, as well as delusional. Are you not aware that thousands of Black males have also rejected Obama’s presidency?? It’s blacks who had racism in mind when they elected Obama, meaning they had naively hoped that a black president would use the power of his office to level the playing field (this was and still is a false expectation). When this didn’t happen as you expected it, you cry fowl (blame white men)! This is reverse racism, and class warfare of the worst kind. Lets call it what it is…civility masked in class warfare, not to mention obsessive pre-occupation with black mans status, which is really a scary disorder. Get some treatment and then return to this site. Or just keep reading what others post here, this way you’ll come to see the political landscape objectively, and not through black or white eyes etc.

Somehow when Obama couldn’t deliver the white man’s head on a platter you guys throw a tantrum? This reveals that you think and expect Obama to give your lazy race a political advantage over others, revealing to white America that Obama lied about promises he made to all Americans that he would be a uniter not a divider. He has been anything but a uniter and you would know that if you were slightly educated. Class envy is what you are about which means you are more interested in throwing a pity party than having a discussion on civility and liberty. But don’t let me stop you who knows Obama may yet have a few tricks up his sleeve to help blacks but I wouldn’t hold my breadth, he’s a puppet of rich white liberals who want only to exploit blacks for power. I don’t want a black man in the oval office not because I hate blacks but because I don’t want socialism and class warfare to replace liberty. Trading liberty for security is un-American sir!

By deliberately omitting the words creator in his speeches Obama is signaling to the atheists on his side of the political divide that he is their man! The fact that his Christian piers like Rev. White and other’s haven’t called him on this blatant pandering to evil reveals they are politically aligned with the communist underground, and that they hate America! Communism isn’t going to elevate the Black man whatsoever but you’ll learn this the hard way since for now you willfully and blindly accept the lie that is Obama. Obama is masking class warfare with sound bite’s that sound civil but are really class envy at work. The objective in all of this political pandering? To spread the wealth around!

Noa Napoleon said:

“Lets call it what it is…civility masked in class warfare, not to mention obsessive pre-occupation with black mans status, which is really a scary disorder.”

oops I meant, class warfare masked in civility!

typo’s suck!