SUCK IT RIGHT-WINGERS!!!!!!!!! Suck it gordon bloyer, suck it rush limbaugh!!!!! The rights of the citizens win over idiotic paranoia!

I think now would be a good time to thank tea-party messiah Scott Brown

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
The_Reasonable_Lib says:
December 18, 2010 at 11:55 am The_Reasonable_Lib(Quote)

Now you can serve in the military, libby!

LOL

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
SUCK IT RIGHT-WINGERS!!!!!!!!! Suck it gordon bloyer, suck it rush limbaugh!!!!! The rights of the citizens win over idiotic paranoia!

You may want to reconsider your screen name when you post comments as calm, reasoned and tolerant as this one.

rea·son·a·ble/ˈrēz(ə)nəbəl/Adjective
1. (of a person) Having sound judgment; fair and sensible.

Just pointing out the obvious.

To quote the great Craig Ferguson…

It’s a Great Day for America, Everybody!!

Such wonderful news.

notsofast said:
Now you can serve in the military, libby!

LOL

Sorry, but I refuse to get into childish antics with you. Have a nice day.

timzank said:
You may want to reconsider your screen name when you post comments as calm, reasoned and tolerant as this one.

rea·son·a·ble/ˈrēz(ə)nəbəl/Adjective
1. (of a person) Having sound judgment; fair and sensible.

Just pointing out the obvious.

We all tend to act of character when excited.

And a collective “FABULOUS” was heard all over Key West and San Franciso.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
We all tend to act of character when excited.

Well okay then, now go wash that sock out and get on down to the recruiting center then.

timzank said:
Well okay then, now go wash that sock out and get on down to the recruiting center then.

Oh, the notsosmart response. Unfortunately you insinuating i’m a homosexual does not affect me because a.) I’m not & b.) I don’t see being a homosexual as a societal woe. Why? A person’s lifestyle has nothing to do with me. Furthermore, perhaps I should offer you my notsosmart response from now on;
Sorry, but I refuse to get into childish antics with you. Have a nice day.

I’ll be glad when DADT is repealed and we can get it over with. As a gay person myself I’m sick of it being an issue. I’m tired of hearing about it. Oh and of course it’s wrong, even a child knows it’s wrong.

LEARN LIBERTARIAN.

stoogedudes said:
To quote the great Craig Ferguson… It’s a Great Day for America, Everybody!! Such wonderful news.

I suppose it is if you consider up-ending the finest military force the world has ever known for the sake of 5% of the population that wants to be able pull each others cranks publicly.

Fabulous!

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I think now would be a good time to thank tea-party messiah Scott Brown

In case you didn’t get the memo, the tea party HATES Scott Brown. Sarah Palin HATES Scott Brown. He’s a MODERATE. So yes, us libs can thank Scott Brown for turning out to be a MODERATE.

timzank said:
I suppose it is if you consider up-ending the finest military force the world has ever known for the sake of 5% of the population that wants to be able pull each others cranks publicly.

Fabulous!

So what they’re 5% of the population. Should we ignore their rights because of that? NO! You sound like an idiot.

timzank said:
I suppose it is if you consider up-ending the finest military force the world has ever known for the sake of 5% of the population that wants to be able pull each others cranks publicly.

Fabulous!

Homophobic much? And if you don’t think our troops are professional enough to do their jobs just because there’s gay people around, well I think that’s a huge slap in the face to our troops. People do their jobs every day with all different kinds of people around and I think that line that the military won’t be able to handle it is both ignorant and insulting to the intelligence of anything with half a brain.

jjay7381 said:
In case you didn’t get the memo, the tea party HATES Scott Brown. Sarah Palin HATES Scott Brown. He’s a MODERATE. So yes, us libs can thank Scott Brown for turning out to be a MODERATE.

I know that. THEY didn’t know that when they elected him. It’s good to have free-thinkers in Congress when extremism has so permeated the institution.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
So what they’re 5% of the population. Should we ignore their rights because of that? NO! You sound like an idiot.

They already have the same rights as everyone else. We are now granting them special rights. How you like to acheive an orgasm should not be the basis of any special rights.

timzank said:
They already have the same rights as everyone else. We are now granting them special rights. How you like to acheive an orgasm should not be the basis of any special rights.

This obviously shows how ignorant you are about homosexuality. No matter how much you’d like to pervert their relationships, people in homosexual RELATIONSHIPS love and care about each other the same way straight people do. And yes, there’s promiscuous gay people, but how many promiscuous straight people are there as well? I mean, do the words “Jersey Shore” ring any bells?

It’s so nice to have some good news for a change. I’m glad this discrimination will end.

timzank said:
They already have the same rights as everyone else. We are now granting them special rights. How you like to acheive an orgasm should not be the basis of any special rights.

No, they don’t. They didn’t have the right to serve as themselves in the military. They had to hide it like a Jew in WW2 Germany. We’ve granted them the same rights as all other citizens; to openly defend their country free from persecution. And yes, DADT is persecution.

timzank said:
They already have the same rights as everyone else. We are now granting them special rights. How you like to acheive an orgasm should not be the basis of any special rights.

How are we granting them “special rights”? Because we abolish rules that specifically discriminate against them?

Just like all the morons that voted for Obama because it was hip, cool, tolerant, historical etal, and now regret the unintended consequences, the same will happen when the morons that shoved this through realize what they have done.

If you think military spending was enormous and wasteful before, just wait.

timzank said:
I suppose it is if you consider up-ending the finest military force the world has ever known for the sake of 5% of the population that wants to be able pull each others cranks publicly. Fabulous!

You do realize that gays have been serving already, just closeted, right?

You do realize that the overwhelming majority of the American people support the repeal, right?

You do realize that the military study shows the military would have no problem with repeal, right?

You do realize that you are on the wrong side of history on this, right?

Wonder how long it will be before the Libs are pushing to legally marry their
German Shepperd?

timzank said:
Just like all the morons that voted for Obama because it was hip, cool, tolerant, historical etal, and now regret the unintended consequences, the same will happen when the morons that shoved this through realize what they have done.

If you think military spending was enormous and wasteful before, just wait.

So having gays serve openly in the military is going to break the bank now? Give me a break. That’s just not true.

timzank said:
Just like all the morons that voted for Obama because it was hip, cool, tolerant, historical etal, and now regret the unintended consequences, the same will happen when the morons that shoved this through realize what they have done. If you think military spending was enormous and wasteful before, just wait.

You seem to not have much confidence in our military if you think it is going to be hurt by allowing gays to openly serve, where they’ve already been serving, just openly. As you said, they are the greatest fighting force in the world, have a little more faith that they will be tolerant and not homophobic.

timzank said:
Just like all the morons that voted for Obama because it was hip, cool, tolerant, historical etal, and now regret the unintended consequences, the same will happen when the morons that shoved this through realize what they have done.

If you think military spending was enormous and wasteful before, just wait.

I’m sure people were saying the same thing when they desegregated the army as well as when they instituted DADT. How wrong all of those idiots were and how wrong you will be.

Probably NOT wrong said:
Wonder how long it will be before the Libs are pushing to legally marry their
German Shepperd?

I’d rather marry a german shepherd than someone too stupid to see the difference between loving committed homosexual relationships and beastiality.

Probably NOT wrong said:
Wonder how long it will be before the Libs are pushing to legally marry theirGerman Shepperd?

Fact: You won’t find any libs supporting this. Please, this is a talking point that is just beyond ridiculous.

Face it, gays are capable of doing good things, too!

OMG, Our government actually passed something meaningful?

Great, after so long, DADT is actually up for vote. I hope to see it go down, and I would love to see our soldiers in uniforms, fight without discrimination.

timzank said:
If you think military spending was enormous and wasteful before, just wait.

It’ll help with that, I expect. How much money did the military waste by investigating and in many cases discharging members of the service because of this policy? A complete waste of time and resources to do that.

timzank said:
I suppose it is if you consider up-ending the finest military force the world has ever known for the sake of 5% of the population that wants to be able pull each others cranks publicly. Fabulous!

What an ignorant human.

A very nice Christmas gift for America.

ROCKSTEADY said:
What an ignorant human.

timzank said:
I suppose it is if you consider up-ending the finest military force the world has ever known for the sake of 5% of the population that wants to be able pull each others cranks publicly.

Fabulous!

timzank said:
They already have the same rights as everyone else. We are now granting them special rights. How you like to acheive an orgasm should not be the basis of any special rights.

And thoroughly homophobic as well. Utterly disgusting. It would be lovely if Amerika didn’t have such people as this homorphobe, but alas ….

It is certainly a good thing that President Obama didn’t listen to Tubleweed’s, known to some Sara N. Italy’s, whining screeches about Executive Orders. It looks like we’re going to get this done correctly, and not at the whim by some half-baked bleater by some half-baked mechanism.

Tumbleweed, you owe our president a big, sincere apology.

Probably NOT wrong said:
Wonder how long it will be before the Libs are pushing to legally marry theirGerman Shepperd?

Another ignorant human.You people should get out more.

The Real Royal King said:
Sara N. Italy’s

The Real Royal King said:
Tumbleweed,

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I hope Colonel Jessep doesn’t order a Code Red.

If we entrust these folks with the ability to make life or death situations for themselves, those around them, and those on the other side of the battlefield… how can we not trust them to act professionally, respectful, and with some sort of tolerance for their fellow soldiers? DADT should be considered a “good idea” for our soldiers, but not a rule, law, or reason to remove someone from force.

These men and women fight for America, and one of our strongest principles is that we are all free to be who we are, and discrimination is not to be accepted. With that in mind, those who refuse to fight alongside someone of another race, religion, or sexual orientation don’t understand what makes America great, don’t deserve the honor of being one of America’s heroes.

As someone right-of-center, I don’t want the government telling me who I can or can’t have a relationship with, or preventing someone from serving their country based solely on who they love. There is a difference between homosexuality, and polygamy and bestiality, and I don’t buy the argument that “if you allow one, you allow the other.”

My only fear is that some knucklehead will start calling his buddy a name (not to insult, just to tease), and someone else will start filing lawsuits and demanding retribution. Our army has enough to worry about, we don’t need them worrying that saying something stupid in the middle of a firefight, will get them kicked out or removed from duty. But I believe our Military can take care of instituting policies that prevent that from happening.

All that said, to the lefties who are jumping up and down and giving the finger to those who support DADT… grow up. It’s that kind of attitude that prevents people from changing their minds… that kind of, “them or us” mentality. This is good for all Americans, quit trying to make everything a “we beat you,” victory… and just be happy that something positive is finally getting done. Grow up.

Tumbleweed! Tumbleweed! Bleat! Bleat! Moan! Whine! Whine!

ImNotBlue said:
If we entrust these folks with the ability to make life or death situations for themselves, those around them, and those on the other side of the battlefield… how can we not trust them to act professionally, respectful, and with some sort of tolerance for their fellow soldiers? DADT should be considered a “good idea” for our soldiers, but not a rule, law, or reason to remove someone from force. These men and women fight for America, and one of our strongest principles is that we are all free to be who we are, and discrimination is not to be accepted. With that in mind, those who refuse to fight alongside someone of another race, religion, or sexual orientation don’t understand what makes America great, don’t deserve the honor of being one of America’s heroes. As someone right-of-center, I don’t want the government telling me who I can or can’t have a relationship with, or preventing someone from serving their country based solely on who they love. There is a difference between homosexuality, and polygamy and bestiality, and I don’t buy the argument that “if you allow one, you allow the other.” My only fear is that some knucklehead will start calling his buddy a name (not to insult, just to tease), and someone else will start filing lawsuits and demanding retribution. Our army has enough to worry about, we don’t need them worrying that saying something stupid in the middle of a firefight, will get them kicked out or removed from duty. But I believe our Military can take care of instituting policies that prevent that from happening. All that said, to the lefties who are jumping up and down and giving the finger to those who support DADT… grow up. It’s that kind of attitude that prevents people from changing their minds… that kind of, “them or us” mentality. This is good for all Americans, quit trying to make everything a “we beat you,” victory… and just be happy that something positive is finally getting done. Grow up.

As a lefty, I thank you for that very good post. And look, I’m not one of those that will go around saying “Suck it, righties”, like RL did, but I am very happy that this unreasonable law will soon be history.

But again, you are so right, and I truly appreciate your post.

notsofast said:
Now you can serve in the military, libby!

LOL

You act like being gay is an insult XD

How will the bitter, racist, bigoted, old, white men who comment at Mediate handle this news?

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Sorry, but I refuse to get into childish antics with you. Have a nice day.

You are the Hershey Highwayman, lib!

Be proud!

Jon said:
You act like being gay is an insult XD

To YOU and your rectum, I’m sure it isn’t!

timzank said:
I suppose it is if you consider up-ending the finest military force the world has ever known for the sake of 5% of the population that wants to be able pull each others cranks publicly. Fabulous!

My, how tolerant you are of other Americans. And where did you serve your country?

notsofast said:
To YOU and your rectum, I’m sure it isn’t!

You and Just4theFax, or whatever the hell his moniker is, are two of the biggest bigots in America.

ImNotBlue said:
If we entrust these folks with the ability to make life or death situations for themselves, those around them, and those on the other side of the battlefield… how can we not trust them to act professionally, respectful, and with some sort of tolerance for their fellow soldiers? DADT should be considered a “good idea” for our soldiers, but not a rule, law, or reason to remove someone from force. These men and women fight for America, and one of our strongest principles is that we are all free to be who we are, and discrimination is not to be accepted. With that in mind, those who refuse to fight alongside someone of another race, religion, or sexual orientation don’t understand what makes America great, don’t deserve the honor of being one of America’s heroes. As someone right-of-center, I don’t want the government telling me who I can or can’t have a relationship with, or preventing someone from serving their country based solely on who they love. There is a difference between homosexuality, and polygamy and bestiality, and I don’t buy the argument that “if you allow one, you allow the other.” My only fear is that some knucklehead will start calling his buddy a name (not to insult, just to tease), and someone else will start filing lawsuits and demanding retribution. Our army has enough to worry about, we don’t need them worrying that saying something stupid in the middle of a firefight, will get them kicked out or removed from duty. But I believe our Military can take care of instituting policies that prevent that from happening. All that said, to the lefties who are jumping up and down and giving the finger to those who support DADT… grow up. It’s that kind of attitude that prevents people from changing their minds… that kind of, “them or us” mentality. This is good for all Americans, quit trying to make everything a “we beat you,” victory… and just be happy that something positive is finally getting done. Grow up.

Thank you from me as well, for a very good post.

And as far as RL goes, (although he does not need me to speak for him) it’s posters like these I believe he was speaking to.

timzank said:
I suppose it is if you consider up-ending the finest military force the world has ever known for the sake of 5% of the population that wants to be able pull each others cranks publicly. Fabulous!

notsofast said:
You are the Hershey Highwayman, lib! Be proud!

notsofast said:
To YOU and your rectum, I’m sure it isn’t!

Probably NOT wrong said:
Wonder how long it will be before the Libs are pushing to legally marry theirGerman Shepperd?

Oops, another filthy hate-filled bigot who has no concept what being American means, graces the website….

Here is another question:

How will conservatives who use JESUS as an excuse for behaving like complete assholes handle this news?

Probably NOT wrong said:
Wonder how long it will be before the Libs are pushing to legally marry theirGerman Shepperd?

James Nelson said:
Oops, another filthy hate-filled bigot who has no concept what being American means, graces the website….

Thank you, I forgot to add that one to my post.

The Real Royal King said:
It is certainly a good thing that President Obama didn’t listen to Tubleweed’s, known to some Sara N. Italy’s, whining screeches about Executive Orders. It looks like we’re going to get this done correctly, and not at the whim by some half-baked bleater by some half-baked mechanism.

Tumbleweed, you owe our president a big, sincere apology.

Tumbleweed owes AMERICA an apology King for her treasonous screeds.

woof!

Fox News: Waging war against secular governance said:
Here is another question: How will conservatives who use JESUS as an excuse for behaving like complete assholes handle this news?

Well, now you know, don’t you, that homosexuality is an abomination in that book of theirs? The one they like to cherry pick through.

w_t_f said:
Well, now you know, don’t you, that homosexuality is an abomination in that book of theirs? The one they like to cherry pick through.

I have a theory on that book. It is my believe that the book was written by

Probably NOT wrong said:
woof!

Hmmmm. LeeDog use to say that very same thing at TVNewser. .

Justice has prevailed! The issue has been resolved and not the court cases are moot. I would have preferred to the the Supreme Court rule that the policy was unconstitutional but the victory over ignorance and bigotry is still sweet.

w_t_f said:
Well, now you know, don’t you, that homosexuality is an abomination in that book of theirs? The one they like to cherry pick through.

That was in the Old Testament. Jesus never addressed the issue. That was under the old covenant which also said adulterers should be stoned to death. When presented with the death penalty in a case of adultery Jesus rejected it. It amazes me that so called Christians support the death penalty. They are not being like Jesus.

Paul lists homosexuality among a group of sins in his letter to the Corinthians 6:9 “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,” But Paul is also quoted as saying in 1 Corinthians 14:34 “women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.” I would not take Paul literally. He was a harsh man. No civilized Christian today would agree with Paul that women should be silent in church. Times change and humans evolve as does our understanding.

It would be fun to copy and paste to 500+ times that el Gordo Blowhard said this would never happen, but his not showing up here on this thread is probably enough (until he thinks of something to make himself right).

Anyway, it’s interesting enough to see people ruffling through what the bible says about homosexuality. I’ve always liked what’s on this link that shows how hypocritical the bible “cherrypickers” are….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD52OlkKfNs

James Nelson said:
You and Just4theFax, or whatever the hell his moniker is, are two of the biggest bigots in America.

No, that would be you, libby!

Hawk11 said:
It would be fun to copy and paste to 500+ times that el Gordo Blowhard said this would never happen, but his not showing up here on this thread is probably enough (until he thinks of something to make himself right).

Anyway, it’s interesting enough to see people ruffling through what the bible says about homosexuality. I’ve always liked what’s on this link that shows how hypocritical the bible “cherrypickers” are….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD52OlkKfNs

There are a lot of nasty things in the old testament. The new has a lot fewer but the book of Revelations, there are some brutal punishments there.

Hawk11 said:
It would be fun to copy and paste to 500+ times that el Gordo Blowhard said this would never happen, but his not showing up here on this thread is probably enough (until he thinks of something to make himself right).

Anyway, it’s interesting enough to see people ruffling through what the bible says about homosexuality. I’ve always liked what’s on this link that shows how hypocritical the bible “cherrypickers” are….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD52OlkKfNs

By the way this video is a really good post. I am going to download this one. I missed this episode.

The Real Royal King said:
A very nice Christmas gift for America.

Would have perferred ecomonic growth…

As a Vet (16 years and medically retired), I am pleased. I’d like to see Art 125 removed, but barring that this will have to do.

The service won’t suffer. There were homosexuals in the service when I was in, there were homosexuals when before I was in. There have always been homosexuals. Now they won’t have to hide themselves. The witch hunts will end. The ability of an FIS to blackmail them for secrets will end.

It’s a happy day. The bigots, the ignorant and the foolish will bleat, but if Israel, Sweden, England, Canada, Germany, France, the French Foreign Legion and I know not who all else can manage it, so can we.

Here’s to the troops.

as for the idea of it harming readiness.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/16/AR2010121606084.html

“In the recent Defense Department survey, 58 percent of combat arms Marines said they felt allowing homosexuals to serve openly would negatively affect their unit, but 84 percent of combat arms Marines who had served with a homosexual said that there would be no effect or that the effect would be positive. It seems obvious that if allowing homosexuals to serve openly degraded performance, rather than improved it, a majority of Marines who had served with homosexuals would oppose repeal. Yet this is not the case, and homosexuals serve openly in the militaries of Britain, Canada, Australia, Israel and others with no ill effect. This suggests that much of the opposition toward repeal within the Marine Corps is based on the politics of individual Marines and not any measurable military effect. ”

Capt Cox, USMC, a commander of troops in Iraq.

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The_Reasonable_Lib said:
SUCK IT RIGHT-WINGERS!!!!!!!!! Suck it gordon bloyer, suck it rush limbaugh!!!!! The rights of the citizens win over idiotic paranoia!

Are you sure you understand the meaning of the word “reasonable”?

A great victory for America.

The GOP once again on the wrong side of history.