Could have been great, turned out cheesy.

I support electric cars, can’t wait till we get off oil and can be a self-sustaining country. Less imports, more exports.

Yeah, “Andrew,” vs. Clint Eastwood. Idiots.

typical—for satire to be funny it has to contain a hint–just a hint–of the truth.  major fail

That commercial parody was funny and with Volt’s catching on fire is so true and scary…

Does that mean not only oil will continue to cost more and more but now with the dumb Volt car will cause electricity cost to sky rocket also?…

Which part?  There were several bits in there that are true.

Since libs also hate nuclear power we’ll be burning all the more coal or oil to meet the increased electrical demand – way to go libs!

As soon as Doc get his flux capacitor going, all will be well. To the future!

When was the last license for a nuclear energy plant awarded?  And the one before that?

How many nuclear power plants did the Republicans license when they were in the driver’s seat?

Do gasoline powered cars ever catch fire?   If any have ever caught fire, what fool would drive one?

I don’t want nuclear power because if something goes wrong, you can kill off an entire state. I want electric power, wind power, and solar power. We need to ween ourseles off oil because it pollutes the environment and helps create a worse world for our kids.

“Since libs also hate nuclear power…”

Sure glad you don’t deal in meaningless generalizations and fact-free stereotypes.

The members of the right wonder where’s the profit in that? 

What did you expect, comedy brought to you buy the intellectual crowd that advises aspirins for birth control and swear the earth is flat.

Can’t wait to see the battery size for those semis that haul your food to the grocery store…and the electric bill to charge it.  Spoken like a true Duke Energy stockholder.

After that you can get to work on volcanos, forest fires and cow farts…they do worse damage.  Can you find a way to just kill Mother Nature?

Yea, I remember when you defended the Tea party against those few nuts carrying racist signs.  ExGOPman turned blinded partisan.

How does not using oil equate me to wanting to kill mother nature?

Are you retarded?

I was gonna’ try to explain it to ya’…but why bother, you’ll never learn.

America is trying to forget the Tea Party, please don’t bring them up again -_-

I’ve never been stupid enough to call all tea partiers racists, contrary to what you’ve foolishly assumed. There are plenty of them that are, but I’ve never painted with that broad a brush.

I agree with you! We should be putting money and effort into electric cars…..but until we can at a price that wont hurt the average person we cant just drop oil or make it hard for the working and small business people to afford. We have to move slowly and smart into the future on less oil.

The Right is not against going off oil. The difference is we think with our brains and not like you liberals who go by impulse and emotion. 

We need to move in a smart direction and have a substance that is cheaper and affordable by all. not the lame Volt or some $100k electric car hollywood stars drive around thinking they are doing the world better.

Yes forget those people who want less spending and less government in our lives…those evil Tea Party people! how dare they think we should have a balanced budget and not head towards a Greece situation!…Dam those Tea Party crazy thinker.

Which substance would that be? Fairy dust?

Which alternative fuel, other than fairy dust, does the right support?  Solar? No.  Wind? No. 

And how do you explain the commenters from the right who claim that we have hundreds of years of oil left and we should use more of that?

Really.  In a similar vein, why try to cure cancer, when people will just die of something else?  

Why wear seat belts when you could die of a heart attack at any  time. 

Clearly, there’s no reason to try to limit danger in areas we can control when there are dangers in the world  we can’t control.

Unless, of course, we think increased safety is okay even though we can’t make make the world absolutely safe.

So, mothers, don’t worry about your kids running out into the street.  They could easily die from some other thing, so don’t bother.

Hey, here’s an idea!  We could use electric cars for the things they are good for, and keep using other forms of transportation for things they are good for. 

Here is an idea. Let’s just walk. Saves the planet from all those emissions & Michelle O is happy that people are exercising. Problem solved. Go ahead & give me the next one. 

Anyone who has a Chevy Vomit….er….Volt and trades it in for another one is “reVolting.
:-)

This is what kills me. A single Chevy volt catches fire three weeks after a crash test, and they ALL catch fire? Just like with the Fiero. 135 Fieros out of 370,168 produced catch fire, and they ALL catch fire? The media blows things so far our of proportion, it is rediculous.

My freaking all-electric car, a Nissan Leaf, was about $24K, with early adopter incentives are added-in, plus I got a free charger too.  Quit misinforming people until you know what you’re talking about.  Here in San Diego, our electrical power is only about 3% coal-powered.  And when I charge off solar, it’s completely renewable.  Want to argue now?

A SINGLE Volt?   Having a bit of a selective memory aren’t you?

Let’s make Americans pay millionaires 10,000 dollars each to drive crappy cars that run on coal even as Dingle Barry is trying to destroy the coal industry  :-D

Traffic on the altamont pass was heavy yesterday. Seems a car caught fire on the shoulder. Guess what? It was a gasoline powered car.

While you were criticizing Matt, you seemed to have forgotten that gas powered cars catch fire with some frequency.

Now that i’ve reminded you of that, I’m sure you’ll drop the flaming volt argument.

An honest person like you would correct himself.

Environmentalist sue Cape Cod wind farm.
Seattle times.

Environmentalist sue two wind enery companies Est of San Francisco.
High Plains/Miwest
Journal.

Environmentalist sue solar company over San Luis Obispo County project.
Socal Focus.

Wihch alternative fuel are Environmentalist for???

What is wrong with the Tea Party, these people are far superior than the Obots Dimocrat Party with their appendage OWS

Yep, all you anti-science, anti-education, lets pray on it, people are really leading us to a new tomorrow -_-

 Just when should we start? 2100? or 2012?

 Try to pull over to the side of the road where they have extremely dry brush. With a hot car…It’s going to catch fire and possibly start what would be called a forest fire. (Northern California)

 That’s exactly where I was thinking of.

You might want to do some research on the environmental impact of coal burning powerplants as well as the various mining methods of coal. 

People keep calling Volt a electric car it both gas and electric .I love to have one it’s a great idea .I not a greeny wacko .But if I had a job I could drive to work everyday without gas .Nothing wrong with that …  Of coarse waiting for KIng Obama to give me one free in his next jobs package .LOLOL

Chevy Volt is manufactured in Detroit.Crap I bet you drive a honda and support Japan instead of the USA. .So stupid there nothing wrong with the car .The fire problem never happen in real live.It was test that showed weeks later in the junk that battery caught fire.It’s been fixed … If more people would buy American products we have more american Jobs … I need one …

 Do you know how much solar power cost? Currently a 1300 sq. ft home would cost a total of $25,000 to get off the grid. But don’t worry federal and state tax credits will pay-off $16,000 of that. Plus if can’t put the panels on your roof you are left without a backyard. Oh, between 20 and 30 years they will need replacement.  Oh, and wind power. Wind Power maybe a viable option when and if maintenance cost goes down but you better not put them near homes or population centers or there will be pissed off people going crazy over the noise and lack of sleep. Plus, the other arm of the of environmentalist wackos who seem to want a prefect energy source complain about killing birds and even though there are several solar plants currently and several more have been proposed in the Mojave Desert they are complaining about the amount of land it takes and the Ground squires and lizards and tortoise they would adversely effect. Current alternative clean energy cost a lot of money and requires subsidies we can no longer afford and even with these subsidies cost more than conventional energy sources. The big loser is the poor, American businesses and the tax payer.  I’m all for alternative energy but it needs to be able to stand alone with very little or no subsidies at all. At this point with our debt the way it is I’m against any subsidies for anything. Yes, even oil. We just can not afford it. We already have the highest per capita debt in the world and that’s just the federal debt.

(Bush was a big spender but he doesn’t hold a candle to Obama who has already out spent him in deficit spending.)

One day a couple of hundred years or more from now alternative energy may take over fossil fuels as ours and the worlds number one energy source when technology fines a way to make it cheaper and the fossil fuel gradually get more expensive. And yes the polar ice caps will still be there.

I have an Ford Escape Hybrid which I would not have bought had it not but for the $1,600 dollars my employee discount gave me for buying a Ford and the Federal Government giving an addition $2650 as a tax credit to buy. (And no I don’t work for Ford). I bought it because I too wanted to do my small part in getting off the dependency of foreign oil but for the average person it still isn’t cost effective. At least with my Ford Escape and other Hybrids the batteries are charged when the gas is powering the car and when I apply the brakes.

The Volt which is a hybrid plug-in car and with Coal being the number one energy source for electricity at 45.50% and Nuclear is third at 19.30%  it is likely when you plug one of these to the home outlet, that cost extra, you are probably using a power source you currently don’t like. Plus you have to pay for the extra power you use to charge it. So how clean is it really for what it cost?  Currently too much for the general public to want them at this time.

Sorry for any typos or grammar errors in advance.

 Yep, 15 years ago all you saw in China was bicycles. Now they are going to cars while we consider going to bicycles. lol.

You know bicycles are the most efficient form of transportation for the amount of energy consumed measured in calories. Airplanes and trains a cars not so good. But they are a hassle when I need to take my sick wife to the hospital for treatment or in competing for road space when going to work. But it is great exercise.  Who cares if I stink when I get there.

We already have something that electric cars are good for…bicycles !!

The world according to the Right Winger -  ”Here is the bottom line, last night it took 70 dollars to fill the tank of my 2008 H3 Hummer, what is it costing you? What does it cost the President to fill his gas tank?” Allen West.  Priceless.

electric coal/nuclear

 I believe there are around 8000 or so Volts sold excluding the recent order from GE. There have been 2 Volts go up in flames. Not a high percentage but a hold lot greater than the percentage of other cars that have gone up in flames and the vast majority of those have been a result of a violent accident. And with the Volt being a fairly new car 2 out 8000 or so cars is a relatively high percentage. So given the cost people might be wise to see if any others experience self combustion before buying. 

You know there are millions of earth loving Liberals that love the VOLT because it was built buy Obama Motors and they love what it is trying to do. So if that’s the case and this car is so great why has less than 10,000 of these cars been sold in 2 years to the general public? Really! If you think it’s a great car go buy one or shut up.

Your vision is totally attainable, just need to adjust to having 1/32 of the energy used.  Utopia beyond Thunderdome

“Let them eat wind power” -Barry Antoinette

I want to at least test drive a Volt to see how good it is or isn’t

Your goal to be the biggest idiot that comments here is almost realized. I’m pulling for ya’ !!

I searched and found some articles on the topics you mention.  It only confirms what everyone already knows.  People on the right can’t think beyond “yes” and “no” and “liberals” by necessity aren’t in lock-step with each other.

On the first point, you seem to believe that if someone is opposed to a particular wind farm design, they must be opposed to wind energy.  Usually, they are not.  In the cases you mention above, the “environmentalists” seek “mitigations” of the impact of the windmills, which threaten 34 endangered species in one of the cases.  They’re not opposed to wind farms, or windmills, for that matter;  they just want the design adjusted to minimize damage.  

Can you admit that some places might be more appropriate for, say, a coal-powered power plant than others?  Do you understand that some places, say spots near major fault lines, are more appropriate than others for nuclear plants?
The same goes for wind farms.

The world is not always black and white.  Someone can be for something in general, but against a specific example of that general thing.

For example, cars.  I don’t know a single right-winger who is against the idea of cars, in general.  But many seem opposed to the Volt, a specific car.  

They seem to understand when they, themselves, see gray areas, but to not when others do.

 This is actually for Liberty_Hound below…Trains not fuel efficient?
Have you not seen the commercial where they can go over 485 MPG of diesel for passenger trains.

Obama and UAW made every bond holder of GM take it in the brown eye. Thats the way Obama likes to do things though is force it to people. He must have learned something from Kobe. I guess its better than learning something from OJ to keep things on the positive side.

Well very soon we will all have jobs. We will get paid a million dollars a day too, everything in this commercial is spot on.

I will never buy a GM product or, if I can help it, any productmade by organized communist labor.

All of his green BS is just a smokescreen, just an excuse to waste money and make the environmentalists think hes on there side.

Between the bailout and the porkulus he has pissed away trillions on this junk and gotten almost nothing from any of it.

His EPA regulations are only designed to choke out jobs. The unholy alliance between the feds, GM, GE is only designed to destroy wealth.

The porkulus bill is more of the same, spend as much as you can oon as little as possible. Giving money to solyndra with one hand, giving money to solyndras customers on the other while Solyndra is making a 2 dollar product thats only worth 1 dollar.

Ginormous windfarms from GE subsidized by the porkulus, who realy benefits from that? GE had a tax free profit of 18 billion dollars and in fact hasnt paid a dollar in taxes since Obama took office.

Obamacare isnt on topic but its more of the same, a convienient money whole in which a potentially unlimited amount of money can be made to disappear ad infinitum.

How much does a 50 cent condom cost when you borrow the money from china and wash it through multiple beauracracies?

They dont have trade in value, with all of the subsidies involved in buying the first one, its not worth very much compared to the actual price.

Last I heard they only sold a couple thousand, well until GE placed an order for 12,000. Of course GE will pay almost nothing once you figure all the tax credits in, expect more big orders as soon as the first lot is finished. Also expect GE to do well making recharge stations with tax money.

More fat tax  free profits expected from both companies.

It was all true. Its a shitty situation and getting worse every day. For example Obama proposed some tax reform just yesterday giving more tax credit for corporations involved in green energy and manufacturing.

Of course the official word is that this will close loopholes and lower taxes…

Seems to be lots of racists on both sides with more every day. Is that an accident? Considering all the money Obama spends on racial propaganda via state TV, I would have to say no.

Myself I was raised by my mother and father to be color blind, and yet more and more I think Hiring White and cutting food stamps is a good idea.

I never payed attention to the tea party until I asked myself why all the hate against them? Maybe they are saying something someone doesn’t want me to hear.

See also: FOX news, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin.

Well said snowspot, I think most people would agree with you, but ask yourself, if we are buying oil from venezuela and OPEC are we really doing anything for the environment? Do you think they care about birds and trees?

At least if we drill our own oil and make our own nuclear plants we can do it in a responsible way.

If your not using oil, you should tell the rest of the world how you do it.

Probably the honest ones that aren’t just an excuse to piss away money into the hands of Obamas communist labor union friends.

I could go for that.

The computer you’re typing on is most likely a product of communist labor.

Why such relectance to buying a Volt? Yes, it is a bit expensive – but them all you have to do after coming home from work is to plug it in and hope that Solyndra has enough juice overnight to recharge it.

Why don’t you go to that workers’ paradise in Cuba? Or better yet – to North Korea? They have a 100% employment rate, when you count all those Gulag inhabitants.

That cars with gas in them catch fire?  Seriously?   Gasoline cars have been around for 100 years.  Funny thing about gasoline – its flammable.  The Volt also uses gasoline by the way.   You are either ignorant, or supported by your gasoline comments, stupid.  The known fire problem of Volts catching fire isn’t because only a single Volt caught fire.

its paid for

 The Toyota Camry is the most American car. 90% US parts, more than ANY GM product sold. GM is communist trash. We, the taxpayers, lost billions because GM stock is nowhere near it needs to be to even break even. REAL Americans buy private enterprise. That is what this country was founded on. Obama’s plan to promote socialism in the US started and failed with GM.

No patriotic American would EVER buy a GM product.

It’s unpatriotic to buy a GM product.

Yes, I saw the West comment too. I once thought thah there was a ceiling on the price of gas that would cause Americans to demand more vehicles like the Volt, and not H3 Hummers. I’m not so sure anymore. There’s just so many people that think that because we are Americans, we somehow are entitled to have gas that is cheaper than anywhere else in the world, and to be able to drive uber-vehicles like a Hummer that suck gas like an athlete drinking Gatoraid on a hot day. We already use a a fifth of the world’s energy, and expect it to be cheap. 

What I really find ironic about the West statement is that he’s more than willing to keep his monster vehicle filled up with gas no matter the price, but on the other hand he is not willing to pay one dime more in taxes. Just a selfish, selfish person who is more worried about his won wants and needs, and the rest of the country can go fish.

An encouraging note, for me at least: I drove through our local Chevy dealership today. A few months ago, the dealer kept the lot filled with big Chevy trucks. Most of those trucks were gone today, replaced with the new fuel-efficient Sonic, Cruze and 2013 Malibu ECO models, and they have been selling at a good clip. So maybe there are a few people out there that do not support the West line of non-reasoning.

Good comment, Edward. You certainly can make a better case for a Toyota catching fire, or any gasoline powered vehicle, than you can a Volt. The Volt is a great vehicle, except for one point: it is expensive, much in the vein of the original flat-panel big TVs when they were first introduced. They were overpriced too, but a certain group of folks had to have one. So too with the Volt, for now, but as battery technology rapidly advances, the price of the Volt will go down; personally, I look for the Volt and the Cruze to merge technologies in the not-so-far off future. I’m glad GM had the guts to bring this car to market, because the technology is much more practical than the Leaf, since you can drive across the country in the Volt using the gas regenerating motor. And, if you are like me and drive less than thirty miles per day, you might fill the Volt up once every couple of months. At $5 a gallon, that sounds pretty inviting. 

Actually, you don’t have to worry about Solyndra… you still could drive the Volt using gasoline to power the electrical regeneration motor, just the same as any conventional car. Of course, if you drive a Leaf, well, better keep that electrical bill paid.

Well, here we go again with the poor bondholders…I agree, there was about 20% of the bondholders that were Grandpa and Grandma on Main Street that got hurt. I was thinking though that they had a chance to be recompensed with GM stock; perhaps I am wrong, and I do have sympathy for them in any case. I can’t say the same thing, though, about the other 80%, the largest portion of which, as I understand it, were Middle Eastern oil countries which had purchased bonds for their sovereign accounts. I doubt any of those countries were exactly crippled by the GM bond situation. I’ve noted that the Saudis were strangely quiet about this situation, along with other Arab countries. I assume they considered GM no more than a distraction, and weren’t really willing to complain so long as the U.S.remained a reliable customer spending billions (trillions?) annually in their area of the world.

Really? I’m sure all of those veterans that work for GM would be a bit irritated to hear that, and trust me, every Veteran’s Day, when the veterans are honored at the plants for their service and sacrifices, there are a lot of them, both production and management. 

Okay, you don’t like GM. Does that mean that the suppliers that send products to GM, and also send products to Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Nissan, VW, i.e. to every automaker in America, are unpatriotic too, just because they do business with GM? 

Go ahead, buy a Toyota. If you go back about 70 years, which company was supporting America then, replacing auto production with war production? Perhaps you forget that Mitsubishi was building warplanes that was shooting at Americans, while GM was building  products that defended our nation. 

Oh, yes, GM is unpatriotic. How many trucks did GM donate after 9/11 happened? And when the economy ground to a halt after 9/11, wasn’t it GM that spurred the economy onward with its no interest financing?

 ”I don’t want nuclear power because if something goes wrong, you can kill off an entire state.”

And with that, you’ve proven you have no idea what you’re talking about. A nuclear reactor isn’t a nuclear warhead, moron.

Racists on the Left outnumber racists on the Right by a margin of 10 to 1 …. always have, always will.

Your side currently has 33,000 racist gangs at the moment …. that’s about the same number of churches our side has.

The DNC are the bitter, hateful, racist dregs of society.  MSDNC rams racism down tards’ throats 24/7 …. they/you need racism like you need oxygen … the future of fascism depends on it!

Honestly, what bothers me about electric cars is the battery life.  Tesla has  a problem where if the battery goes dead you are out $40k.  When I buy vehicles for myself or my wife we plan to keep them for 10yrs minimum.  If after 10yrs the battery performance is so degraded the car is worthless I’d have nothing to help me pay for a replacement (by nothing I mean less than $5k).  To me that is unacceptable for a $40-50k car.   If they sold decent electric cars for $15k I’d be more open to it. 

If you also have a Volt then I take it you fit into the category of the $170k average salary of a purchaser.   If so, $70 to you is the same as $13 to an average person.   You may be able to afford taking financial risks.  Most people need a reliable vehicle and can’t afford to replace it if it turns out to have been a mistake.

“you’ve proven you have no idea what you’re talking about. A nuclear reactor isn’t a nuclear warhead, moron.”

Ever heard of Fukushima? Chernobyl? California is still getting radioactive water on it’s coast….

Thanks for your expertise on the subject, lol.

I like Allen West. He buys his own cars and buys his own gas with his own money. I bet he pays his taxes too.

Perhaps you all need a measure of common sense as to what is and isn’t:

http://wavefunction.fieldofscience.com/2012/02/end-of-biofuels.html

 Now tell me that you’d be fine living around the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plants. You know the one I’m talking about. they’ve evacuated all the people from that area of the prefecture/state.

 Or would you like to visit Chernobyl , where when it caught on fire and burned for 10 days and spread nuclear fall out over tens of thousands of square miles.

 I do realize that you probably live in a state that is big compared to some of the smaller states. Hell, San Bernardino County, California is larger than 9 US States. and is almost half the size of 10 other States.

 Or would you have like to live near Three Mile Island, PA when they had a meltdown.

Horse and buggy! Then, we’d have lots of manure to use to propel those electric plants or something…….

Usually I don’t try to find out info when douches on here present them, but I looked up your 20/80 and couldn’t find any facts to back that up. Usually a large portion of bondholders are through funds and the rest through individuals and employees. That means people who had 401ks and IRAs so a lot more than 20%. Bondholders give money to a company so they can use that money to pay for things, basically a loan. What happens if you don’t pay a loan? Shouldn’t that happen to a company? Bondholders get paid first when bankruptcy happens. GM would still be there leaner if that happened and better. One bondholder was a teacher who had $70000 in bonds. Do you want to tell her poor bondholder? Yes they get stock but at a fraction. Honestly I don’t care who owns the bonds they should get paid first. Government shouldn’t interfer in contract law. You are unusal, a liberal racist. Mcsquirtyed on!

Anyone know how those batteries from the Volt will be disposed of? Is this like the Left’s “brilliant” idea of forcing everyone to use those stupid fluorescent light bulbs that will put mercury into the landfills if disposed of without following HAZMAT guidelines? (And, if you think that the majority of people are going to follow those HAZMAT guidelines, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.)

after seeing that ad, i’d buy one of those cars!!!!!!!!

I am glad we can say that there’s an American car industry to speak of. It isn’t the first time Detroit was bailed out. Good job Mr. President.

Yeah, like the “smart direction” of filthy tar sands oil that all the Repugs are thumping their chests over, in direct contradiction to your “we think with our brains” claim.

The  ”American car industry” is more than just Chrysler/GM.   They mismanaged themselves into bankruptcy.  Everyone got screwed except for the unions who basically won the lottery.

What would those bonds be worth if GM had completely collapsed? At least they’re being compensated with stocks & warrants for shares. This is more than what they would have had if the government did not intervene.

What about people who lease which is what most Volt drivers do?

You still bought a product made by organized communist labor. Not to be rude but that was a horrible rebuttal on your part. If you’re trying to troll, you need to up your game.

I’m talking POST-BAILOUT GM (2009) idiot.

And with that, you’ve proven you have no idea what you’re talking about.

At The Chernobyl disaster
Four hundred times more radioactive material was released than had been by the atomic bombing of Hiroshima.

The World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the death toll could reach 4,000 civilian deaths, while the Union of Concerned Scientists estimate that for the broader population there will be 50,000 excess cancer cases resulting in 25,000 excess cancer deaths.

Whos the moron? 

FORD is the True American Car Company! They didn’t suck Obambi penis (I really doubt if Obama has a penis)! Government Motors can kiss my All American Backside, along with the worthless pathetic excuse of a nonleader, B. Hussein Obama, the Muslim in the WH!

THIS IS HILARIOUS AND CLASSY

So says a guy who probably drives a foreign car.

Yeah, I’m sure those bond holders would’ve been a lot better off if GM had just ceased to exist.

Yeah, and he tortures prisoners personally instead of having other people get their hands dirty like Bush did.

Was your computer made in communist China?

Odds are it was. Communist labor, my friend.

Wow, that’s a truly mind-boggling level of stupidity on your part, Neil.

And the wingnuts obsess over the notion that the Volt’s battery can catch on fire. They ignore that all of their own cars run on this highly flammable substance called “gasoline”.

Yeah, let’s keep using dirty oil instead. Not like the stuff will ever run out. Oh, that’s right, it will.

“Few nuts”? The racist nuts were the norm at Teabagger rallies.

you guys ever heard of the e-jeepney?

Still no answer to transporting YOUR food to grocery stores.

 Two caught fire just setting there. No trash needed. 

You must be a Lib/Prog, they are professionals at making stuff up.

I drive a GM-era Saab and I see clearly how GM ruined a once great Swedish brand. I hope GM aka Communist Obama Motors collapses! My next car will be a Ford product, free of taxpayer money!

Where is the proof?????? I think this is a baseless accusation.  Can you cite one example?

Where do you think the electric car will get the power from a current bush