Right… mispronouncing a word and forgetting your daughters age is on par with thinking John Quincy Adams was a founding father and Paul Revere was gun tooting and saying “WOOOOO BRITS ARE HERE WOOO!!!”

Flubs are common, we all do it, grossly recalling national history is a completely different thing.

It’s a permanent game of Jeopardy because at absolutely no point have these farces demonstrated the deep and vast knowledge on complex public policy issues necessary to be the leader of the free world.

Mainstream media outlets have irreparably destroyed their own credibility by running 10,000 articles attacking Palin and Bachmann, but never telling their audience about the positions on smaller, more fiscally responsible government that are the reasons why these women have such enthusiastic supporters. The intellectual dishonesty of this approach is obvious to all impartial observers.

This would be like covering Ben Bernanke’s testimony on the Federal Reserve without mentioning anything he said about the economy or finance. It would be like the media running stories on Tiger Woods, but never mentioning what he does on the golf course. But with Palin and Bachmann, journalists not only want to play gotcha and character assassination, but also want to control and limit how much of their message gets out into the public.

So don’t just focus on the non-stop Jeopardy game that the left uses to ridicule these women — even more pernicious is the complete obfuscation of what they stand for.

Publius219 said:
It’s a permanent game of Jeopardy because at absolutely no point have these farces demonstrated the deep and vast knowledge on complex public policy issues necessary to be the leader of the free world.

Neither did Chicago Jesus and look what happened there.

Publius219 said:
It’s a permanent game of Jeopardy because at absolutely no point have these farces demonstrated the deep and vast knowledge on complex public policy issues necessary to be the leader of the free world.

That’s hard to say, since the media refuses to report on what these women have to say on policy issues, and when they interview them, they avoid questions that would allow these women to express their views on policy issues. In fact, it’s pretty obvious that the media is doing everything possible to hide, silence and censor what these women have to say on key policy issues.

Now it’s your turn to come back and explain why Paul Revere and John Wayne are important policy matters….more important the deficit, unemployment, the economy, the border, foreign policy, etc. This should be pretty amusing for all of us to hear.

felixw said:
Mainstream media outlets have irreparably destroyed their own credibility by running 10,000 articles attacking Palin and Bachmann, but never telling their audience about the positions on smaller, more fiscally responsible government…

I agree that the mainstream media lacks credibility but not merely because they report every stupid thing that Bahmann and Palin say or do, in my opinion.

And really, Republicans who CLAIM they’re all for fiscal responsibility are a dime a dozen and Palin and Bachmann are just two more nitwits in the crowd.

Where the media fails us is in their utter failure to report the baldfaced hypocrisy of all these supposed “fiscally responsible” Republicans who spent us off a cliff with record deficits during the Bush Administration and who voted to raise the debt ceiling time after time after time. Now they’re determined to crash our economy into the ground because they think it will score them political points (hint: it won’t, and they’ll go down in flames for it).

These Republicans all CLAIM we must “sacrifice” yet they don’t want to close tax loopholes or end government subsidies to Big Oil despite the record profits these companies are making. Profits are great and all, but it’s time to end their handouts. The time for their subsidies is over; they don’t need it and we can’t afford it.

The Republican mantra has become “Sacrifice for thee; tax cuts for me and mine.” A competent media would be reporting THAT more and less reporting every time Palin or Bachmann says something stupid.

Jeopardy!. LOL. If those two ditzes weren’t so stupid they could probably WIN at Jeopardy but they’re ill informed idiots who can’t even run their mouths, let alone our government.

But they sure are purty. That’s about all the qualifications they need to impress the teabaggers.

RhapsodyinBlue said:
Right… mispronouncing a word and forgetting your daughters age is on par with thinking John Quincy Adams was a founding father and Paul Revere was gun tooting and saying “WOOOOO BRITS ARE HERE WOOO!!!” Flubs are common, we all do it, grossly recalling national history is a completely different thing.

I happen to reject your premise. First, JQA was most definitely a founding father.

Just because he wasn’t a signer of the Declaration of Independence, it doesn’t disqualify him from being a founder, nor for that matter would it Alexander Hamilton who was ony 19 and wasn’t a signer either.

By founding father, we mean a citizen who was a significant participant in the broader founding of the United States–which frequently includes the period through the 1800 election. John Quincy Adams certainly qualifies for that. He was probably among the most 300 significant men of the founding, and I think most reasonable thinking rational Americans would agree with that- though ultimately its just splitting hairs over the broader point, which is the only reason I can see for not including JQA as a founder would be to keep intact the all-founders-were-racist-slave-owners narrative. By doing that, your premise that America was founded as unjust country remains whole and you eliminate JQA as an outlier. Plus, you get to discredit Bachmann, which is icing on the cake.

Secondly, The Palin-Paul Revere thing has been gone over ad nauseum. There actually is some historians who say Palin’s account actually happened- so by ignoring that you are either ignorant or you willfully omitted that, which shows your bias.

But if you really truly are offended about Palin speaking extemporaneously about history and getting it wrong, you must no doubt be REALLY offended that Obama said there were 57 states. There is no way you can say Obama’s isn’t significant if you want to rake Palin over the coals at the same time.

I am willing to chalk all true misspeaks up as non issues, but the more you want to put importance on gaffes, the more scrutiny you unwittingly invite to Obama’s blunders as well.

The problem is that the difference not just in coverage but in the TONE of the coverage glaring when it comes to Obama’s slipups.

From the corpsman mispronunciation, the Cambridge police acting “stupidly”, proudly and specifically stating he gave the medal of honor to a living recipient for the first time when it was in fact given posthumously, saying there are 57 states, saying there is an “Austrian” language, the real difference, regardless of their varying degrees of importance, is that they are all treated as non stories with the media and the same people who have the knives out for Palin and Bachmann. They give Obama a pass, because he HAS to be smart right?

But how can someone so smart mess up so often? This is a question you should be asking yourself.

My favorite Obama flub quote might be this:

“The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries.” –Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010

Now only a man of supreme intellect can come up with a line like that!

This meaningless utterance sums him up. Obama is devoid of knowledge or experience, yet his words, the suit, the speeches all look the part- and so you lap it up without any scrutiny.

What the president says matters. This is what Breitbart is right to point out: and the real problem is, Obama is just WAY more important than Palin or Bachmann yet gets none of the scrutiny.

I respectfully disagree.

President Obama could so totally wipe the floor with Bachmann and Palin on Jeopardy even if they had Rush Limbaugh’s brain contents written down on Sara Palin;s hand.

“Obama is devoid of knowledge.”

Yes, sure. That is why we went to Harvard Law School.

I’m sorry, but your attempts to diminish the President just doesn’t resonate.

Any American who watched the debates in 2008 or any interview with the President on TV since then can see that he has a firm grasp on geo-politics and an intimate knowledge of world history that past Presidents such as GW Bush and Carter simply did not have.

Really sorry that McCain didn’t win, but Americans rightly chose Obama because of his quick mind and deep well of knowledge that has already served us well three years into his administration.

You are grasping at straws trying to to a few “gaffes” by Obama.

Bush had DAILY gaffes when he was in office.

DAILY!

Well, we knew we were in trouble now
Our hope of winning sank
Oh, ’cause we got the Daily Double now
And then our minds went blank

Well, we are givin’ up Republican Party.
Just tell us now what we didn’t win, yeah, yeah

That’s right, Palin and Bachmann–You lost. And let me tell you what you didn’t win: a twenty volume set of the Encyclopedia International, a case of Turtle Wax, and a year’s supply of Rice-A-Roni, But that’s not all. You two also made yourself look like jerks in front of millions of people. You brought shame and disgrace to your family names for generations to come. You don’t get to come back tomorrow. You don’t even get a lousy copy of our home game. You’re complete losers!

Palin and Bachmann lost on Jeopardy, baby (oooh)
Palin and Bachmann lost on Jeopardy, baby (oooh)
Palin and Bachmann lost on Jeopardy, baby

Apologies to Weird Al.

Mia Kulper said:
I agree that the mainstream media lacks credibility but not merely because they report every stupid thing that Bahmann and Palin say or do, in my opinion.

And really, Republicans who CLAIM they’re all for fiscal responsibility are a dime a dozen and Palin and Bachmann are just two more nitwits in the crowd.

Where the media fails us is in their utter failure to report the baldfaced hypocrisy of all these supposed “fiscally responsible” Republicans who spent us off a cliff with record deficits during the Bush Administration and who voted to raise the debt ceiling time after time after time. Now they’re determined to crash our economy into the ground because they think it will score them political points (hint: it won’t, and they’ll go down in flames for it).

These Republicans all CLAIM we must “sacrifice” yet they don’t want to close tax loopholes or end government subsidies to Big Oil despite the record profits these companies are making. Profits are great and all, but it’s time to end their handouts. The time for their subsidies is over; they don’t need it and we can’t afford it.

The Republican mantra has become “Sacrifice for thee; tax cuts for me and mine.” A competent media would be reporting THAT more and less reporting every time Palin or Bachmann says something stupid.

Jeopardy!. LOL. If those two ditzes weren’t so stupid they could probably WIN at Jeopardy but they’re ill informed idiots who can’t even run their mouths, let alone our government.

If you don’t think there is a HUGE difference between the Democrats and Republicans on spending and deficits, you haven’t been paying attention to what is going down in Washington, D.C. Then again, maybe that’s what happens when you get your “news” from MSNBC. The national debt is the “story that cannot be named” on that network.

And if you are really as concerned about deficits as you claim, you will obviously be voting Republican next year. The bottom line is Obama has spent borrowed money faster than any man in history—by a huge margin. All the spin in the world won’t hide that. And the reason why the media hates to run stories on the deficit is because they are fully aware of how irresponsible Obama-Reid-Pelosi have been on spending matters.

Andy Breit gets it right. Michele & Sarah, trim & tight. Lefties never see the light. They howl at the moon all night.

Mia Kulper said:
But they sure are purty. That’s about all the qualifications they need to impress the teabaggers.

Again with the “teabagger” comments. I would rather be a teabagger than a teaBAGGIE but to each his own. Personally I am not into hairy man sacks on my chin but apparently most Liberals are.

BarneyFranken said:
I happen to reject your premise. First, JQA was most definitely a founding father.

Just because he wasn’t a signer of the Declaration of Independence, it doesn’t disqualify him from being a founder.

Please look up founder in the dictionary then, history rewriter

BarneyFranken said:

But if you really truly are offended about Palin speaking extemporaneously about history and getting it wrong, you must no doubt be REALLY offended that Obama said there were 57 states. There is no way you can say Obama’s isn’t significant if you want to rake Palin over the coals at the same time.

Right, you really believe Obama didn’t make a mistake in saying 57 states (instead of 49 states and 8 territories which he did visit) and he REALLY believes there are 57 states. This is reasonable. Oh, or are you saying Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin giving out DETAILED descriptions of their idiotic descriptions of American history is on par with Obama saying 57 states in a late night campaign rally? This is your argument?

shootfromthehip said:
“Obama is devoid of knowledge.” Yes, sure. That is why we went to Harvard Law School. I’m sorry, but your attempts to diminish the President just doesn’t resonate. Any American who watched the debates in 2008 or any interview with the President on TV since then can see that he has a firm grasp on geo-politics and an intimate knowledge of world history that past Presidents such as GW Bush and Carter simply did not have. Really sorry that McCain didn’t win, but Americans rightly chose Obama because of his quick mind and deep well of knowledge that has already served us well three years into his administration. You are grasping at straws trying to to a few “gaffes” by Obama. Bush had DAILY gaffes when he was in office. DAILY!

When Obama took over 63% of the country thought we were going in the wrong direction. Today the number is 68%. So what’s your point?

More bovine fecal matter from the lying Frances MOOO!

RhapsodyinBlue said:
Right, you really believe Obama didn’t make a mistake in saying 57 states (instead of 49 states and 8 territories which he did visit) and he REALLY believes there are 57 states. This is reasonable. Oh, or are you saying Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin giving out DETAILED descriptions of their idiotic descriptions of American history is on par with Obama saying 57 states in a late night campaign rally? This is your argument?

Who knows if he believes it, if he just makes stupid statements or if he just lies outright. There are so many examples of his gaffes it is hard to know which category they each fall into.

Category – “Newspapers”

Answer – “I read them all, Katie”

Question – Governor Palin, which newspapers do you read?

What is your favorite novel, Gov Palin? “All of them, Katie. And stop with your GOTCHA questions. My head hurts”.

shootfromthehip said:
Yes, sure. That is why we went to Harvard Law School.

We don’t know why or how he went to Harvard. All the records are sealed for some very strange reason.

Gov Palin – other than Roe V Wade, which Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?

“Oh, Katie. That is another GOTCHA question!”

shootfromthehip said:
“Obama is devoid of knowledge.”

Yes, sure. That is why we went to Harvard Law School.

I’m sorry, but your attempts to diminish the President just doesn’t resonate.

Any American who watched the debates in 2008 or any interview with the President on TV since then can see that he has a firm grasp on geo-politics and an intimate knowledge of world history that past Presidents such as GW Bush and Carter simply did not have.

Really sorry that McCain didn’t win, but Americans rightly chose Obama because of his quick mind and deep well of knowledge that has already served us well three years into his administration.

You are grasping at straws trying to to a few “gaffes” by Obama.

Bush had DAILY gaffes when he was in office.

DAILY!

Well I didn’t go to Harvard Law School like you and Obama, but I think the Presidency itself has been diminished by several gaffes. His wife patting the Queen like a spaniel. Bowing to a bunch of foreign potentates. Taking an embarrassing snub by the Queen after the first flub. Fifty seven states. The worst has been his inaction on the economy. He spent all his political capital on a health care plan that is a doomed, utopian disaster. Just because he has fewer gaffes than Bush doesn’t mean he is ready for Mount Rushmore as you suggest.

david r said:
Bush had DAILY gaffes when he was in office.
DAILY!

Could you please list each one in chronological order since you are 100% sure they occured?

BarneyFranken said:
I happen to reject your premise. First, JQA was most definitely a founding father.

Quincy Adams was a founding child – an eight year old boy.

Nice try.

Washington, Jefferson, and Madison will always be slave-owning deists and no amount of lies from Beck conservatives will change that.

felixw said:
If you don’t think there is a HUGE difference between the Democrats and Republicans on spending and deficits, you haven’t been paying attention to what is going down in Washington, D.C.

Of course there’s a “difference.”

Here it is:

“Reagan proved deficits don’t matter” – Dick Cheney, US Vice President to George W. Bush, while America went from a record budget record surplus and plunged into record deficits and debt.

Palin and Bachmann could just answer the question but instead they go on a wild goose chase when it comes to history.

Reagan was a big deficit spender too. Eight years in a row of deficits and record debt.

Then another four years of deficits under George H. W. Bush.

And another 7 years of deficits and record debt under George W. Bush, the lesser.

Oh yeah, those Republicans are real… whattayacallit… “fiscally responsible!”

2012freedom said:
Could you please list each one in chronological order since you are 100% sure they occured?

Shootfromthehip said that. Bush was not a great orator, though.

Mia Kulper said:
Of course there’s a “difference.”

Here it is:

“Reagan proved deficits don’t matter” – Dick Cheney, US Vice President to George W. Bush, while America went from a record budget record surplus and plunged into record deficits and debt.

Check your facts. When Republicans control Congress they run prudent budgets. When Democrats control Congress, they spend like drunken sailors. Here, inform yourself:

http://www.renewamerica.com/images/columns/bowyer030319.gif

Mia Kulper said:
I respectfully disagree.

President Obama could so totally wipe the floor with Bachmann and Palin on Jeopardy even if they had Rush Limbaugh’s brain contents written down on Sara Palin;s hand.

Yeah. I almost wish that were a pre-requisite for being President. Palin and Bachmann wouldn’t even get to participate in final Jeopardy.

felixw said:
Check your facts. When Republicans control Congress they run prudent budgets. When Democrats control Congress, they spend like drunken sailors. Here, inform yourself:

http://www.renewamerica.com/images/columns/bowyer030319.gif

You’re such a good little sIut for Team Red.

Really? How do you explain the the record deficits under Bush?

felixw said:
Check your facts. When Republicans control Congress they run prudent budgets. When Democrats control Congress, they spend like drunken sailors. Here, inform yourself:

Really? How do you explain all the record debt and deficits during Bush’s terms?

felixw said:
Check your facts. When Republicans control Congress they run prudent budgets. When Democrats control Congress, they spend like drunken sailors. Here, inform yourself:

http://www.renewamerica.com/images/columns/bowyer030319.gif

That means the current GOP House will be the largest spender of all time.

First you started out saying:

felixw said:
The bottom line is Obama has spent borrowed money…

Then I replied:

Mia Kulper said:
Reagan was a big deficit spender too. Eight years in a row of deficits and record debt.
Then another four years of deficits under George H. W. Bush.
And another 7 years of deficits and record debt under George W. Bush, the lesser.
Oh yeah, those Republicans are real… whattayacallit… “fiscally responsible!”

And now you’re saying:

felixw said:
Check your facts. When Republicans control Congress they run prudent budgets.

When you come up with a consistent argument, call me.

Breitbart’s site was lit up today. Klavan layed it out.
http://www.breitbart.tv/klavan-why-do-black-people-vote-for-democrats/

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In other words, the media doesn’t bother to “test” candidates who’ve demonstrated intelligence and/or a grasp of the issues, but it DOES “test” those candidates who haven’t.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

what is it that make conservatives afraid of this statement?

“I made a mistake!”

had Palin or Bachmann said that this contro would be under the bridge. Instead they dig themselves a deeper hole by simply not admitting a mistake

bigbrainbrad said:
what is it that make conservatives afraid of this statement?
“I made a mistake!”

Compared to whom? I guess I missed all the Liberals out there doing it. Oh, wait. Obama did say shovel ready wasn’t quite as shovel ready as they thought. Is that what you mean?

2012freedom said:
Who knows if he believes it,.

He was a constitutional lawyer, Senator and now President but yet you still don’t he knows if there’s 50 states or not? And WHO is the dumb one?

RhapsodyinBlue said:
He was a constitutional lawyer, Senator and now President but yet you still don’t he knows if there’s 50 states or not? And WHO is the dumb one?

He doesn’t seem to know how to pronounce CORPS or know there isn’t an Austrian language. Shouldn’t a Harvard graduate know those things? Joe Biden thinks FDR was on tv talking to people and no one mentioned what a moron he is. He thinks we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon and wasn’t he supposed to be the “best” at foreign policy? Just sayin’ your side is equal in stupid comments.

It is like Bachmann and Palin are on Jeopardy.

They always answer in the form of a moron.

Fox has turned into the 24 Hour Whine Network.

BFsockpuppet said:
It is like Bachmann and Palin are on Jeopardy.

They always answer in the form of a moron.

Fox has turned into the 24 Hour Whine Network.

Don’t watch, patsy. Just stay glued to msdnc, think propaganda and media matters.

It’s really sad that I keep hearing about the same 4 gaffes that Obama said, How about the top 50 dumb incoherent, stupid gaffes that GWB uttered. http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushquotes/a/dumbbushquotes.htm. There is a difference between a slip of the tongue or a brain fart, and complete nonsense. Republicans just cannot stand that Obama wiped the floor with the whole house of representatives on TV in 2010, so badly that FOX had to cut the feed, and they are scared to do it again. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-february-1-2010/q—o
Why don’t you come out and say it, right wingers, you think he got into Harvard by affirmative action, which is why everyone wants to see his records. At least it wasn’t because of who his Daddy was, like GWB, who is also a direct descendent of Franklin Pierce, president #14, who was the only fool who lost the nomination of his own party, and is largely blamed for the Civil War. McCain’s father and grandfather were both 4 star admirals and he was a lowly lieutenant, with all due respect, but lieutenant does not equal president. Romney is the son of a governor who lost to Nixon in the primary, of course, millionaire.
Tell me something, I thought that we had a war to get rid of a hereditary monarchy and a corrupt aristocracy, now they are called republicans.

Limit government potential candidates are;
Herman Cain
Sarah Palin
Thaddeus Mccotter
Rick Parry
Michele Bachmann
Rick Santorum
Any one of them can hit Obama’s glass jaw.

“joe”thesockpuppet said:
you think he got into Harvard by affirmative action

Uh, he did. No “thinking” about it.

Worp said:
Limit government potential candidates are;
Herman Cain
Sarah Palin
Thaddeus Mccotter
Rick Parry
Michele Bachmann
Rick Santorum
Any one of them can hit Obama’s glass jaw.

Don’t make me laugh.

Simon Baron-Cohen I suspect is fascinated by many of the contributors here at Mediaite.

This forum is fertile ground for understanding Empathizing–systematizing theory.

The extreme male brain (EMB) theory is qualitatively proven here.

joeshmoe said:
Don’t make me laugh.

joeshmoe, Denial is not just a River in Egypt.
Tea Baggers have begun drinking their own Guyana brewed Kool Aid. Big mistake. This will be good in the long run. And future demographics are becoming more unfavorable all the time.

2012freedom said:
He doesn’t seem to know how to pronounce CORPS or know there isn’t an Austrian language. Shouldn’t a Harvard graduate know those things? Joe Biden thinks FDR was on tv talking to people and no one mentioned what a moron he is. He thinks we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon and wasn’t he supposed to be the “best” at foreign policy? Just sayin’ your side is equal in stupid comments.

Again, you’re skirting the issue (shocking) you’re talking about things corps pronunciation and Austrian language (a country of UNDER 10 million people and was clearly a throw away, joking comment) whereas people you have and will vote spoke at length about the history of this country and were completely oblivious to the point where any common 4th grader could’ve corrected them.

There is no equal comparison, you keep on mentioning flubs and joking off the cuff comments whereas Palin and Bachmann BOTH have NUMEROUS times spoke at LENGTH horrendously bad about the history of a country that they are or were running for President for.

Yep, and being president is like a permanent game of Jeopardy — except with nukes, and the fate of billions at your fingertips.

Perhaps a basic knowledge of history and the world around you is an early test that candidates ought to be able to pass easily? And if they can’t, perhaps they’re not fit for the office?

Nature Freak said:
joeshmoe, Denial is not just a River in Egypt.
Tea Baggers have begun drinking their own Guyana brewed Kool Aid. Big mistake. This will be good in the long run. And future demographics are becoming more unfavorable all the time.

That Kool-aid is an unsettling cloudy yellow color and has a suspicious odor.

LOL

When you have dumpster diving conman Breitbart being their spokesman, Bachmann and Palin are truly screwed.

Andrew Breitbart weighed in on what he considered a double standard that makes female and minority conservatives’ lives “a permanent game of Jeopardy!”

Come to think of it, questions like “What kind of magazines do you read?” and “Where were the battles of Lexington and Concord fought?”, as well as Palin and Bachmann’s respective answers, are exactly what you’d expect to hear on a SNL “Celebrity Jeopardy” skit.

Obviously, that’s because Democrats must keep their two largest voting bases uninformed, dependent, and totally indoctrinated to the Liberal Plantation.

Evolutonal attrition, shall we say, will take care of that disorder.

Did anyone here see Stossel when he revealed that Breitbart brought the ACORN story to him at ABC first; but ABC REFUSED TO RUN IT!

A study of college majors in the “social-sciences” (think future college professors or government bureaucrats), there’s a 30-1 ratio od Democrats to Republicans.

Be very careful you’re not sending your children to a “Progressive”, government-funded indoctrination camp.

mediadoubt said:
Yep, and being president is like a permanent game of Jeopardy — except with nukes, and the fate of billions at your fingertips.

Perhaps a basic knowledge of history and the world around you is an early test that candidates ought to be able to pass easily? And if they can’t, perhaps they’re not fit for the office?

Like if a guy told you that an historic event that happened 4 years after he was born was responsible for his conception, perhaps he’s not fit for office.

Palin and Bachmann talk about history and the constitution with no prompting from the media. Of course the media will check to see if the facts are right and when they aren’t that’s what they focus on.

But, it doesn’t matter anyway. Both women believe in what they say regardless if the facts are wrong.

2012freedom said:
All the records are sealed for some very strange reason.

What do you mean by “sealed”?

Jaurez said:
No “thinking” about it.

This pretty much sums up ALL of your comments.

Thanks for the continuing laughs, little fella!

I had a Professor give me a nearly failing grade in college once on American History. He didn’t like my Conservative Approach to our history. Later I found out this Professor also taught a Socialism class and had lived for years in the old Soviet Union. This was in the 1970′s.

Garbage.

These women have been scrutinized this way about history because they practically make a career out of going around lecturing people about our country’s history.

And no, Bretibart, all of these were not ‘forced errors’.

For example…Nobody asked Sarah Palin to talk about the ride of Paul Revere…she just volunteered it (and got it a little wrong).

Mia Kulper said:
I respectfully disagree.

President Obama could so totally wipe the floor with Bachmann and Palin on Jeopardy even if they had Rush Limbaugh’s brain contents written down on Sara Palin;s hand.

But only if all the questions were about communism, Marxism, socialism, welfare, fraudulent voting, corruption and, of course, community organizing.

Any and all other topics he would need a teleprompter, with the answers written by somebody smarter, as usual.

RhapsodyinBlue said:
Again, you’re skirting the issue (shocking) you’re talking about things corps pronunciation and Austrian language (a country of UNDER 10 million people and was clearly a throw away, joking comment) whereas people you have and will vote spoke at length about the history of this country and were completely oblivious to the point where any common 4th grader could’ve corrected them. There is no equal comparison, you keep on mentioning flubs and joking off the cuff comments whereas Palin and Bachmann BOTH have NUMEROUS times spoke at LENGTH horrendously bad about the history of a country that they are or were running for President for.

You must be really stupid. How about Obama knows nothing about WWII.

Gaffe: Obama Thinks Emperor Hirohito Signed Japanese Surrender; “Victory” Not Goal in Afghanistan – Video 7/23/09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7scgN-37E

Michele Bachmann is a serial exaggerator…especially about US History. And the media rightly calls her on it.

If you listen to those two, they would have you believe that the country was founded by conservative teabaggers…

when, in reality, the debate about the size of federal government and the role of religion was just as heated back then as it is now.

struckgld said:
I had a Professor give me a nearly failing grade in college once on American History. He didn’t like my Conservative Approach to our history. Later I found out this Professor also taught a Socialism class and had lived for years in the old Soviet Union. This was in the 1970’s.

It was more likely because, like most conservatives, you got your history facts wrong.

shootfromthehip said:
You are grasping at straws trying to to a few “gaffes” by Obama.

The fact that you THINK there are just a few gaffes by Obama indicates that you watch the Obama media. Obama’s gaffes are endless.

perfect!

felixw said:
Check your facts. When Republicans control Congress they run prudent budgets. When Democrats control Congress, they spend like drunken sailors. Here, inform yourself: http://www.renewamerica.com/images/columns/bowyer030319.gif

Don’t try to inform these nuts. Mia is just another left wing loony hiding behind a phony name to spread lies.
How do you explain the following to these nuts.

Gaffe: Obama Thinks Emperor Hirohito Signed Japanese Surrender; “Victory” Not Goal in Afghanistan – Video 7/23/09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7scgN-37E

gordonbloyershow said:
The fact that you THINK there are just a few gaffes by Obama indicates that you watch the Obama media. Obama’s gaffes are endless.

Obama makes gaffes too…I’ve seen them.

The difference is that he doesn’t usually make gaffes on topics that he’s lecturing other people about.

IF you let the conservatives tell the story of US history, they would tell you that Jesus founded the country and that Moses parted the Atlantic Ocean so he could bring us the Constitution.

struckgld said:
I had a Professor give me a nearly failing grade in college once on American History. He didn’t like my Conservative Approach to our history. .

If you had gone to Oral Roberts U with Michele Bachmann you would have gotten an A

The difference is that both Palin & Bachmann VOLUNTEER theirlack of knowledge (Lexington, NH…Paul Revere…John Q. Adams)…which only makes us wonder what other inaccuracies are in their chamber.

The left is always saying ‘Obama went to Harvard!’ But if you remind them that Bush went to Harvard, they say ‘That means nothing!’

Perdido said:
The left is always saying ‘Obama went to Harvard!’ But if you remind them that Bush went to Harvard, they say ‘That means nothing!’

Yale.

Bothe Yale and Harvard do mean something.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Evolutonal attrition, shall we say, will take care of that disorder.

Wow a conservative that believes in evolution. Shocking!

NORBIT Jr. said:
Did anyone here see Stossel when he revealed that Breitbart brought the ACORN story to him at ABC first; but ABC REFUSED TO RUN IT!

They would be right to not run it, since it was a fraud. The guy that was supposedly helping with the human trafficking, was in fact bleeding the guy for information, as he immediately called the cops on him after the interview. The pimp video was a total fraud and heavily edited. He was not dressed as a pimp in the office. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsbpIJY6jP8
I am not sure is he still in jail for tampering with the phone of a senator.
This just shows how misinformed Fox watchers are, and that it is indeed GOP propaganda.

Bush has an MBA from Harvard.

Perdido said:
The left is always saying ‘Obama went to Harvard!’ But if you remind them that Bush went to Harvard, they say ‘That means nothing!’

valkyrie101 said:
Bothe Yale and Harvard do mean something.

Apparently Daddy was rich thats all that means, if you want to see Obama’s records I want to see Bush 42′s donations to Yale and Harvard to get his son in.

One form of affirmative action is pretty much the same as another.

felixw said:
Mainstream media outlets have irreparably destroyed their own credibility by running 10,000 articles attacking Palin and Bachmann, but never telling their audience about the positions on smaller, more fiscally responsible government that are the reasons why these women have such enthusiastic supporters. The intellectual dishonesty of this approach is obvious to all impartial observers.

This would be like covering Ben Bernanke’s testimony on the Federal Reserve without mentioning anything he said about the economy or finance. It would be like the media running stories on Tiger Woods, but never mentioning what he does on the golf course. But with Palin and Bachmann, journalists not only want to play gotcha and character assassination, but also want to control and limit how much of their message gets out into the public.

So don’t just focus on the non-stop Jeopardy game that the left uses to ridicule these women — even more pernicious is the complete obfuscation of what they stand for.

This would be a more compelling argument if Palin and Bachmann had actually achieved jack shit, but since their accomplishments are so modest, their wacky and ignorant views of reality get more air time.

I’d also point out that comparing Palin’s half-term governorship of a minor state or Bachmann’s extremely slender legislative record with Tiger-frakkin’-Woods is fatuous, at best.

Bachmann’s legislative record consisted of mostly voting ‘present’. No, wait. That was Obama.

Pablo said:
Like if a guy told you that an historic event that happened 4 years after he was born was responsible for his conception, perhaps he’s not fit for office.

Don’t know about this particular slip of the tongue. Enlighten me.

struckgld said:
I had a Professor give me a nearly failing grade in college once on American History. He didn’t like my Conservative Approach to our history. Later I found out this Professor also taught a Socialism class and had lived for years in the old Soviet Union. This was in the 1970’s.

I once had a math teacher who nearly failed me because I couldn’t solve differential equations. She didn’t like my alternative approach to resolving them. I later found out she was a mathematician. Nuff said. FACT.

valkyrie101 said:
Bothe Yale and Harvard do mean something.

Perdido said:
Bush has an MBA from Harvard.

Harvard and Yale mean something when liberals want them to mean something, and at NO OTHER TIME.

Bill O’Reilly also has a Harvard degree, but almost never mentions it. Keith Olbermann often talks about his “Ivy Leage education” but attended Cornell’s agricultural school.

gordonbloyershow said:
The fact that you THINK there are just a few gaffes by Obama indicates that you watch the Obama media. Obama’s gaffes are endless.

I realize that meaningful distinctions and subtlety are anathema to you, but let’s try anyway: A slip of the tongue (“57 states,” “Hirohito” rather than General Umezu) are not actually equivalent to taking an historical event, pureeing it in a blender, and then, when your garbling is called to your attention, going on to defend your whack-a-doodle interpretation in a clumsy and hopeless way. E.g.,”Paul Revere,” “Adams the founding father.”

Palin and Bachmann are rightfully excoriated because they’re not only ignorant, they’re incapable of learning from their mistakes. Or perhaps simply too arrogant (with little cause) to think that they need to do so. I’m sure *you* know exactly what I mean.

How about spending twenty years listening to a pastor, then saying you were unaware of his views. That doesn’t exactly sound like a rocket scientist either.

joeshmoe said:
Apparently Daddy was rich thats all that means, if you want to see Obama’s records I want to see Bush 42’s donations to Yale and Harvard to get his son in.

Bush’s college records and scores were released and are well known. As a matter of fact so were Bill Clinton’s and John Kerry’s. So why not Obama’s? You do remember the one who was going to have the “transparent” presidency?

Perdido said:
How about spending twenty years listening to a pastor, then saying you were unaware of his views. That doesn’t exactly sound like a rocket scientist either.

Typical conservative….putting words in Obama’s mouth. Obama never said “I wasn’t aware of his views”…..he said he wasn’t there for the controversial sermons that the far-right seized on.

MBW, so he was aware of Wright’s racism and chose to stay. And that makes it better?

Perdido said:
MBW, so he was aware of Wright’s racism and chose to stay. And that makes it better?

You insist on the media providing full context for the remarks that conservatives make….and Rev. Wright should be afforded the same.

Wright has been a pastor for over 25 years….ANY pastor (white or black) can sometimes get carried away. BUT one should look at the FULL context of his work in the ministry before making a judgement.

As Breitbart has proven, all it takes is a little selective editing to make someone look racist, crazy etc.

Well, we know from numerous quotes that Louie Farrakhan is a racist, and Wright presented Louie an award, saying he ‘epitomizes greatness’. But just ignore all that.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Obviously, that’s because Democrats must keep their two largest voting bases uninformed, dependent, and totally indoctrinated to the Liberal Plantation.

People with post graduate degrees voted Democrat 2/1 in the last election

And of course no one considers that these conservative women are out of touch with women in this country and are just plain stupid.

Mia Kulper said:
Reagan was a big deficit spender too. Eight years in a row of deficits and record debt.
Then another four years of deficits under George H. W. Bush.
And another 7 years of deficits and record debt under George W. Bush, the lesser.
Oh yeah, those Republicans are real… whattayacallit… “fiscally responsible!”

felixw said:
When Republicans control Congress they run prudent budgets.

gordonbloyershow said:
Don’t try to inform these nuts. Mia is just another left wing loony hiding behind a phony name to spread lies.

Surely you’re not calling me a liar, Mr. Leafblower?

After the Sherrod incident, that phony has a lot of gall complaining about how the media treats women and minorities. I mean really, his websites are the bastion of neo-theo-con stupidity and he is no journalist

gordonbloyershow said:
Don’t try to inform these nuts. Mia is just another left wing loony hiding behind a phony name to spread lies.
How do you explain the following to these nuts.

Gaffe: Obama Thinks Emperor Hirohito Signed Japanese Surrender; “Victory” Not Goal in Afghanistan – Video 7/23/09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7scgN-37E

Coming from a typical dirtbag right wing talk radio host, your comment has SO MUCH veracity. I bet Palin would’ve said Hitler signed the peace document, and you would be doing your usual anti-intellectual back flips to cover her

Shirley Sherrod is stupid.

felixw said:
That’s hard to say, since the media refuses to report on what these women have to say on policy issues, and when they interview them, they avoid questions that would allow these women to express their views on policy issues. In fact, it’s pretty obvious that the media is doing everything possible to hide, silence and censor what these women have to say on key policy issues.

Now it’s your turn to come back and explain why Paul Revere and John Wayne are important policy matters….more important the deficit, unemployment, the economy, the border, foreign policy, etc. This should be pretty amusing for all of us to hear.

Got any more of your pathetic media bashing self pitying whines? Maybe these women need to get out and present their message, But since they can’t hide their ignorance and fanaticism, that transcends their message. Instead of writing crap books to sell to the saps and going on bus tours, maybe your Alaskan idol should get out there and lay out some policy issues. But she won’t even meet with the media after Couric asked her what she read. Now there is a real gotcha question, really!

BTW, isn’t a place where the corporations pay all the taxes and all residents get a check instead socialistic? Just wondering?

The Reason Obama makes so many remedial mistakes is because he was raised in a Muslim country and doesn’t have a clue of American history.

If Breitbart, the sleazy manipulating little cockroach he is, has now focused on Bachmann and Palin, and is trying to make something out of their “rivalry”, both woman better run for cover. Wherever he goes, whatever he does, trouble follows, and he always comes out smelling like a dead rose.

I’ll take “Gotcha Questions” for 200, chief!

You know what would make a lot of people (especially Breitbart) happy? A gaffe from our Vice President Joe Biden, who has a well deserved (I think, at least) reputation for having perenial foot in mouth disease.

Seriously though, what has Joe Biden been doing recently? Last I heard from him on TV was the “F&*#ing golden” statement when the health care bill was passed back in 2010.

Aloysius Okon Jr said:
You know what would make a lot of people (especially Breitbart) happy? A gaffe from our Vice President Joe Biden, who has a well deserved (I think, at least) reputation for having perenial foot in mouth disease.

Seriously though, what has Joe Biden been doing recently? Last I heard from him on TV was the “F&*#ing golden” statement when the health care bill was passed back in 2010.

No, the “F-ing golden” comment was from Blago.

Biden said “Big F-ing Deal”.

Spike1 said:
The Reason Obama makes so many remedial mistakes is because he was raised in a Muslim country and doesn’t have a clue of American history.

well said, moron.

RhapsodyinBlue said:

And this means what, that they’re more intelligent? No, it’s an indication of how universities are controlled by the left wing and indoctrinate students accordingly.

Aloysius Okon Jr said:
You know what would make a lot of people (especially Breitbart) happy? A gaffe from our Vice President Joe Biden, who has a well deserved (I think, at least) reputation for having perenial foot in mouth disease.

Seriously though, what has Joe Biden been doing recently? Last I heard from him on TV was the “F&*#ing golden” statement when the health care bill was passed back in 2010.

he says something stupid every time he opens his mouth – so everyone got tired of covering it. Nobody cares – now if he were a republican you’d get instant replays 24/7

MBW said:
Obama makes gaffes too…I’ve seen them.

The difference is that he doesn’t usually make gaffes on topics that he’s lecturing other people about.

really? lol – you might want to run a fact check on that. Remember the “Breathalyzer instead of inhaler” while talking about the republicans and health care.

valkyrie101 said:
Yale.

I believe he got his MBA from Harvard.

mediadoubt said:
Don’t know about this particular slip of the tongue. Enlighten me.

What he was referring to was when Obama claimed that his parents met at a march in Selma, AL in 1965. He was actually born in 1961.

struckgld said:
I had a Professor give me a nearly failing grade in college once on American History. He didn’t like my Conservative Approach to our history. Later I found out this Professor also taught a Socialism class and had lived for years in the old Soviet Union. This was in the 1970’s.

When you say your Conservative approach to history, you weren’t rewriting the history books now, were you? That seems to be the Conservative method of dealing with American history. If you don’t like what happened in history, just make up your own Conservative friendly version.

Andrew Breitbart weighed in on what he considered a double standard that makes female and minority conservatives’ lives “a permanent game of Jeopardy!”

I say BS to this. If they are not able to take the media attacks they should run for a position which the media and the public care little about, like being Governor of Alaska.

MBW said:
No, the “F-ing golden” comment was from Blago.

Biden said “Big F-ing Deal”.

My bad. See, now I made a gaffe!

But you get my point right? Media figures like to play gotcha games on members from different sides of the aisles. It’s like a spectator sport or something.

We need to get their female fannies on “Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader.” They’re not intelligent enough for “Jeopardy” by a long shot.

mediadoubt said:
I realize that meaningful distinctions and subtlety are anathema to you, but let’s try anyway: A slip of the tongue (“57 states,” “Hirohito” rather than General Umezu) are not actually equivalent to taking an historical event, pureeing it in a blender, and then, when your garbling is called to your attention, going on to defend your whack-a-doodle interpretation in a clumsy and hopeless way. E.g.,”Paul Revere,” “Adams the founding father.”

Palin and Bachmann are rightfully excoriated because they’re not only ignorant, they’re incapable of learning from their mistakes. Or perhaps simply too arrogant (with little cause) to think that they need to do so. I’m sure *you* know exactly what I mean.

Why did Obama tell black voters in Selma that his parents met, and he was conceived, during the march?
Obama Was Born In 1961, 4 YEARS BEFORE The 1965 Selma March.

In His Selma Speech, Obama Said His Parents “Got Together” And He Was Born As A Result Of The Selma March. Obama: “Because some folks were willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama, Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama.” (Senator Barack Obama, Remarks At Brown Chapel AME Church, Selma, AL, 3/4/07)

“Earlier In The Day At A Prayer Breakfast, The Illinois Democrat Said: ‘If It Hadn’t Been For Selma, I Wouldn’t Be Here.’” (Anne E. Kornblut and Peter Whoriskey, “Clinton, Obama Link Selma March To Present,” The Washington Post, 3/5/07)

sorry I copied that and forgot the quotes. mia culpa

seek said:
Why did Obama tell black voters in Selma that his parents met, and he was conceived, during the march?
Obama Was Born In 1961, 4 YEARS BEFORE The 1965 Selma March.

In His Selma Speech, Obama Said His Parents “Got Together” And He Was Born As A Result Of The Selma March. Obama: “Because some folks were willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama, Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama.” (Senator Barack Obama, Remarks At Brown Chapel AME Church, Selma, AL, 3/4/07)

“Earlier In The Day At A Prayer Breakfast, The Illinois Democrat Said: ‘If It Hadn’t Been For Selma, I Wouldn’t Be Here.’” (Anne E. Kornblut and Peter Whoriskey, “Clinton, Obama Link Selma March To Present,” The Washington Post, 3/5/07)

I am so mortified. Clearly we need to impeach Obama on this basis alone.

Alternatively we could recognize a slip of the tongue for what it is and not pretend it’s equivalent to stubbornly trying to defend a phony and deliberately twisted view of history.

I’m thinking you’ll probably opt for the first option.

LAPhil said:
What he was referring to was when Obama claimed that his parents met at a march in Selma, AL in 1965. He was actually born in 1961.

Oops! Moving right along . . .

When Obama makes a ‘slip’, it doesn’t prove stupidity like it does with anyone else.

Ahhhhh…using the old Palin defense for two equally brainless candidates for President of the United States. Everything’s a “gotcha” question to conservatives. It’s the only way they know how to defend their embarrassingly bad grasp of public policy and national history.

Perdido said:
When Obama makes a ’slip’, it doesn’t prove stupidity like it does with anyone else.

Making a slip doesn’t prove anyone’s stupidity, just their humanity.

What proves stupidity in the context of this discussion is pulling bogus history out of your ass in an attempt to advance some ahistorical political position and, when called on it by others, insisting that you were right all along. See Palin, Sarah.

Or, when you misidentify a “founding father,” creating the category “founding juvenile” and pretending that you were right all along. See Bachmann, Michelle.

Is it any wonder people consider these two to be hopeless doofuses?

Girth Brick said:
Quincy Adams was a founding child – an eight year old boy. Nice try. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison will always be slave-owning deists and no amount of lies from Beck conservatives will change that.

Liberals are so predictable. If Girth actually read my post he would have seen that I knew what his thoughts were before his neurons even bothered to fire. (assuming he has working neurons)

But yeah your right, lol, these are all lies.

John Quincy Adams, our 6th president, son of John Adams, who helped formulate the Monroe Doctrine, one of our country’s greatest diplomats- (starting in 1794) These are all lies!

He became secretary of state in 1817 and negotiated with Britain a ban on slave importation that was voted down in the Senate- (you know, back when the federal government passed laws through congress, not by executive orders or regulations.) Why this HAS to be a lie! It doesnt fit the liberal premise that all founders are racists!

So you know what? Liberals can just say JQA wasn’t a founder! There, problem solved! Now they can have their America-was-founded-as-an-racist-nation premise intact through playing semantics instead of acknowledging the significance of our 6th president.

He was born too early to be a “founder” in the literal sense, no one is arguing that. But that doesn’t diminish his impact in the founding of this country as far as its development. Liberals should be celebrating this man instead of trying to disqualify him of the actual “founding father” title.

BarneyFranken said:
Liberals are so predictable. If Girth actually read my post he would have seen that I knew what his thoughts were before his neurons even bothered to fire. (assuming he has working neurons)

But yeah your right, lol, these are all lies.

John Quincy Adams, our 6th president, son of John Adams, who helped formulate the Monroe Doctrine, one of our country’s greatest diplomats- (starting in 1794) These are all lies!

He became secretary of state in 1817 and negotiated with Britain a ban on slave importation that was voted down in the Senate- (you know, back when the federal government passed laws through congress, not by executive orders or regulations.) Why this HAS to be a lie! It doesnt fit the liberal premise that all founders are racists!

So you know what? Liberals can just say JQA wasn’t a founder! There, problem solved! Now they can have their America-was-founded-as-an-racist-nation premise intact through playing semantics instead of acknowledging the significance of our 6th president.

He was born too early to be a “founder” in the literal sense, no one is arguing that. But that doesn’t diminish his impact in the founding of this country as far as its development. Liberals should be celebrating this man instead of trying to disqualify him of the actual “founding father” title.

JQ Adams was an able, admirable man (although an unsuccessful president). His contributions are notable, not least in the area of the dignity of human beings and their rights to fair treatment under the law.

No one is seriously debating that.

The issue is whether a contemporary politician can be trusted who takes history, mushes it all together, and trots out a completely ahistorical interpretation of that mush — because she never got the story straight in the first place. And then goes on to defend that mush-headed nonsense by a laughable recalibration of her original misstatement.

I think — and many people think — the answer is no. And that Bachmann is an eccentric loon. And worse, one who tries to make up the truth in hopes that people won’t notice when she runs off the rails. In a word, a phony.

LAPhil said:
…universities are controlled by the left wing…

DAMN!

The “left wing” controls universities AND the media…small wonder why “conservatives” always seem to have something to cry about.

Those “left-wingers” are everywhere!

The reason for the “game of Jeopardy” is that Palin and Bachmann created it for themselves. They set themselves up for it by claiming that they base their political philosophies on the words and actions of specific historical figures, so of course we voters can expect them to have real and verifiable knowledge of those people, and that time period.

As an example of what Bachmann could have done right, I think it is safe to say that we all consider Benjamin Franklin to be one of the founding fathers, and he was very provably anti-slavery as the details of the Constitution were being ironed out. Bachmann should have known that and used Franklin as her example, but something tells me that in many ways Franklin was too liberal for her.

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I said to the man who’d been sleeping rough
To sit within a fragrant breeze
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