I was thinking while watching him tonight, Bill should run for president!
He’d win

I seem to recall W promising us a humble foreign policy without nation building. Then, on no pretext, he invades and occupies Iraq and sets about rebuilding the nation.

Maybe, President Obama is just fulfilling W’s promise to us.

Or, maybe he just has the self-confidence O’Reilly lacks and feels no need to grovel and pander for approval.

MarkStr82Hell says:
April 14, 2010 at 9:17 pm
I was thinking while watching him tonight, Bill should run for president!
He’d win

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I’m sure he’d get the votes of the 1.5% of Americans ho watch him. I guess he’d carry Alabama.

Of course, the correct running mate would be essential. I am thinking Andrea Makris.

I would hardly call Barry’s whining about the job he inherited from GW as self-confident, RRF!
His job is to problem solve and unite..he’s failed terribly

MarkStr82Hell says:
April 14, 2010 at 9:17 pm
I was thinking while watching him tonight, Bill should run for president!
He’d win
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Another dumbass RW joke.

Wait… you mean that O’Reilly had two people on who disagreed with him? Two people on who were left-of-center?!

But… but… Media Matters told me things like that NEVER happen?! Oh, my world is crashing down…

Feh.

Interesting discussion. If you’re going to run for and take the role of the most powerful person in the world, you need to appreciate it, and WANT it. It’s a little disingenuous for Obama to suggest that he doesn’t necessarily “want” it.

However, at the same time, I can understand where he’s coming from saying we don’t necessarily always want to have to be the dominant super power. That means that even the smallest event is somehow our business, and whatever we do (something, nothing, or somewhere between) is going to be analyzed and picked apart by history. Even when we’d prefer to focus on things within our own borders, we have to still spend time and money on everyone else. For the US, isolationism really isn’t an option.

So I can understand the frustration… but saying it was worded poorly by the President, at just about the most inappropriate time ever, is still somehow an understatement.

the real john t says:
April 14, 2010 at 9:25 pm
MarkStr82Hell says:
April 14, 2010 at 9:17 pm
I was thinking while watching him tonight, Bill should run for president!
He’d win
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Another dumbass RW joke.

I am actually an independent, dickhead

“I am actually an independent, dickhead”
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Yeah right, sure you are.

ImNotBlue says:
April 14, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Wait… you mean that O’Reilly had two people on who disagreed with him? Two people on who were left-of-center?!

Interesting discussion. If you’re going to run for and take the role of the most powerful person in the world, you need to appreciate it, and WANT it. It’s a little disingenuous for Obama to suggest that he doesn’t necessarily “want” it.
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So, O’Reilly’s interpretation of what Obama said is the gospel truth?

the real john t says:
April 14, 2010 at 9:39 pm

Actually, I believe the paragraph starting with, “However…” disagrees with O’Reilly’s central thesis.

If you want, give me your email address. I’ll record an audio file for you, that way you can play it back and listen to it again… apparently reading everything I wrote is too much effort, so why not listen?!

Just trying to help, T.

“So I can understand the frustration… but saying it was worded poorly by the President, at just about the most inappropriate time ever, is still somehow an understatement.”
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No Blue. I don’t think I’ll give you my email address.

MarkStr82Hell says:

“I am actually an independent dickhead”

Comma removed for accuracy..

I’m thinking of starting a “the real john t” archive blog featuring the wit and wisdom he shares on this site.

Do some reseacrh, Real John T:
http://www.nndb.com/people/434/000022368/

Rogue-Comic says:
April 14, 2010 at 10:01 pm
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Good, why don’t you do that. Then I’ll start one about you and you idiotic pals.

MarkStr82Hell

Olby Sucks, or whatever name he’s going by at the time.

Felixw

Tyler Durdin, or whatever name he’s going by at the time.

By all means, lets get our foreign policy from the people who have us at war for several years with no end in sight. I assume we have a foreign policy besides war and threatening nuclear retaliation. Bush never understood, as Obama does, what the greatest threat to the world is. And Obama has played his strongest card there, in Afganistan. Why is that key, it borders on Pakistan, a fairly moderate Islamic country that has nuclear weapons. If Pakistan falls to the Taliban and the fundamentalists take over, then terrorists will have nuclear weapons. Then what do you decide? Pakistan is a diverse culture will hundreds of millions of people. They don’t hate the west, per se, and do not favor the Taliban, but there are some strident and powerful people who are part of the Pakistan government, and radical groups. Right now we have good support from the Pakistanis. Obama is much more savy on what is going on than people give him credit for. Yes, that Islamic training is helpful, Obama has an edge.

So we better make a good plan in Afganistan because that is our main line of defense against terrorists getting nukes.

MarkStr82Hell says:
April 14, 2010 at 10:14 pm

What the hell does that have anything to do with any comment I made?

All you people who cheer against the President, cheer against your country.

“What the hell does that have anything to do with any comment I made?”

I think he’s using the “Palin Argument” on you.

Valkyrie:

Were the people who cheered against George Bush for 8 years cheering against the country?

valkyrie101 says:
April 14, 2010 at 10:28 pm
“All you people who cheer against the President, cheer against your country.”

This statement identifies you as one or two things, a Republican or Fox News . . . in 2007.

Rogue-Comic says:
April 14, 2010 at 10:29 pm
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What the hell are you even talking about?

Bill O’Reilly is a registered independent as noted in the URL I sent. He is not a RW nut like Sean Hannity
You called me a RW nut of which I am not. I didn’t call you an angry, socialist african-american so don’t
throw terms around. I believe O’Reilly makes sense and rationale. I relate to his ideology.

AnonymousFinch says:
April 14, 2010 at 10:33 pm

Were the people who cheered against George Bush for 8 years cheering against the country?
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That’s what Sean Hannity claimed. Plus he kept saying they were emboldening our enemies. Funny how that all changed when Obama took office.

As I recall, finch, the democrats all closed ranks as Americans with the President, they completely supported the invasion of Iraq. The poor Dixie Chicks got hammered for their anti-war sentiments. People believed the WMD threat. We, the liberals, supported Bush. Do you deny that?

MarkStr82Hell says:
April 14, 2010 at 10:36 pm
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I still don’t know what that has to do with you. You claim you’re an Independent and I have never read a comment from you saying one bad thing against a Republican, but you trash the Democrats constantly.

Yes, I do:

http://www.anonymousfinch.com/2010/03/27/democratic-cognitive-dissonance/

FINCH, the Clinton led Congress and the general American public did support Bush in the early days. They didn’t call for his ritualistic torture and death until a couple more years down the line.

Hey the real john t,

Sparrow Agnew was a crook; can I be your friend now?

Yes, John. You’re right. I am a fiscal conservative and socially moderate/liberal. Lately I am very upset with the amounts of tax dollars being spent. I was mad as hell when Bush took us to two unnecessary wars and spent trillions of dollars….Bush was arguably the most unfortunate, inarticulate president in US history. However, at the pace Barry is taking the country towards a state of social welfare, he’s catching up quickly to GW as the most incompetent.

” However, at the pace Barry is taking the country towards a state of social welfare, he’s catching up quickly to GW as the most incompetent.”
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Would you like to explain how he’s doing that without any RW talking points?

valkyrie101 says:
April 14, 2010 at 10:25 pm

By all means, lets get our foreign policy from the people who have us at war for several years with no end in sight.

Who are you talking about, and why?

valkyrie101 says:
April 14, 2010 at 10:40 pm

And that lasted for what… a month? And then what happened? You can’t limit your history down to a few weeks, and call that the picture of 8 years.

Or, maybe he just has the self-confidence O’Reilly lacks and feels no need to grovel and pander for approval.

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LOL! Yea, 0 neeeeeeverrrrrrr panders for approval, he just goes on tour every month! Actually, he stays on tour.

Hey, the real john: how is that dumb head of yous, libby?

Yeah, the Health Care bill did not have to be done. It was forced. I am an RN. This proposed program will make matters worse and cannot afford it. I believe he was misadvised. He was not much the leader during the process. He appears to be a GREAT campaigner and not much a manager of governement. He would do well impressing hot college kids and socialist leaders…Hard working tax paying folks like me, not so much… He is convinced he’s on American Idol Just my thought, John

MarkStr82Hell says:
April 14, 2010 at 11:19 pm
I am an RN.
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Yes, of course you are. That’s why you can spend all day and half the night on this blog. I mean, they’re not really that busy.

I Normally work THree 12 hour shifts and I occasionnary post at work. Try not to be strangers is s good place for diplomacy. Are you a student living with your parents?

“Are you a student living with your parents?”
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Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m retired from the Ironworkers Union.

the real john t says:
April 14, 2010 at 11:34 pm
“Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m retired from the Ironworkers Union.”

Intriguing, how long you been retired, big guy?

“Nobody has ever went to jail for not paying taxes!”

by t-bone

LOL!

“Intriguing, how long you been retired, big guy?”
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4yrs, what’s that matter? And before you even ask, I’m not old enough to draw SS.

Olby Sucks says:
April 14, 2010 at 11:54 pm
“Nobody has ever went to jail for not paying taxes!”
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I never said nobody went to jail. But maybe you’d better read up and do some research on what I actually said little man.

the real john t says:
April 13, 2010 at 9:16 pm

Jack Burns says:
April 13, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Its pretty much known fact you will go to jail if you don’t pay your taxes. Thats what health care payments will become, is a tax.
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“That’s BS and you know it. Name one person that’s gone to jail for not paying taxes”

What was that again, the real john t??

John I see you were an Ironworker. That explains why you thought every white collar person in the same job title made the exact same salary.

the real john t says:
April 14, 2010 at 11:55 pm
“4yrs, what’s that matter? And before you even ask, I’m not old enough to draw SS.”

Nothing the matter; got an uncle did the same line of work.

“Were the people who cheered against George Bush for 8 years cheering against the country?”

That’s what most conservatives said at the time.

TylerDurdin says:
April 15, 2010 at 12:01 am
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Hey Turdin, why don’t you do some research on the subject instead of just spewing BS. If you file all your returns on time but don’t have the money to pay the taxes they cannot throw you in jail. There is no DEBTORS PRISON. They can come and take whatever you own, but they cannot THROW YOU IN JAIL. Sorry about the capitol letters but I figured that was the only way to get Turdins attention.

TylerDurdin says:
“John I see you were an Ironworker. That explains why you thought every white collar person in the same job title made the exact same salary.”

Well, him claiming to be a retired union worker does do a lot to explain his extreme hatred for all things GOP.

Rogue-Comic says:
April 15, 2010 at 12:06 am
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Sorry I jumped the gun on that.

Poor john lashes out in anger.

John, those were your words., not mine. Yours.

TylerDurdin says:
April 15, 2010 at 12:15 am
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You didn’t even read what I wrote. What a slimball idiot.

John why was Wesley Snipes sentenced to prison? He still has millions.

You didn’t even read what I wrote. What a slimball idiot.”

You didn’t retire, you were fired, you angry child.

John why was Wesley Snipes sentenced to prison? He still has millions.

Oh, don’t tell me: racism?

JamesA1102 says:
April 15, 2010 at 12:12 am

Well… no. Some did… but I’d hardly say most. Either way, it’s irrelevant… that is, unless you think that bad behavior gives excuse to those on the left doing it now.

“Well… no. Some did… but I’d hardly say most. Either way, it’s irrelevant… that is, unless you think that bad behavior gives excuse to those on the left doing it now.”

Not at all. I’m just pointing that many on the right said any criticizm of Bush was anti-american and rooting against the country.

John, Leona Helmsley? She went to prison for tax evasion and still owned the Empire State Building.

JamesA1102 says:
April 15, 2010 at 12:24 am

Fair enough… anyone who criticized Bush, respectfully and on truthful merits, and was called “un-American” because of it… was mistreated, and the person making that statement was wrong.

However (as folks like O’Reilly have pointed out), some people crossed the line between respectful dialogue and protest… and shameful behavior. The people protesting and calling for violence (as we have already established) were wrong, and were acting in an un-American way. The same criticism, of course, can be made for protesters of all stripes. But lets be aware that not all the protesters were beyond criticism themselves.

ImNotBlue, ya mean like these people??

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/03/025964.php

TylerDurdin says:
April 15, 2010 at 12:19

You didn’t retire, you were fired,
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OH! Is that why I get pension checks from 2 different union locals? I guess you would be considered a damn liar. As far as the tax stuff, you should try harder to read more carefully so as to not make a total ass of yourself.

How memories are lost. Wasn’t it Bush that told the world “either your with us or against us”.

Obama hates America just like Rev Wright. Obama is just another “America’s chickens have come home to roost” guy. That is why this Commie Jackass Obama wants to “fundimentaly transform America”. Obama is a fricking moron.

COMMIE OBAMMIE YOU ARE A BIG DOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MarkStr82Hell says:
April 14, 2010 at 9:17 pm

I was thinking while watching him tonight, Bill should run for president!
He’d win
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No, he would NOT! He would never listen to his advisors because he thinks he knows more than any breathing person on the planet and would end up getting our nation blown to bits! No thank you! Bill is just fine where he is.

Obama is a wussie Communist punk who has no allegiance to this country and wants to turn it into another mediocre, limp-wristed European *hit hole. He hates our “exceptionalism” and our can-do attitude and thinks we are a bunch of arrogant jerks. Comrade Zero will be put in his place come November and he will be OUT in 2012! We have had enough of him and his weird-assed assortment of fruits and nuts and Mao-loving dingbats and Marxist Czar’s. He is an embarrassment to the office he holds. Never again!

Sunnyr says:
April 15, 2010 at 3:21 am: “No, he would NOT! He would never listen to his advisors because he thinks he knows more than any breathing person on the planet and would end up getting our nation blown to bits!”

Bill does think he knows everything. Bill is too center right. I am much more conservitive than O’Reilly. Although I DVR “The Factor” every night, I find myself disagreeing with him quite a bit. Global Warming for example. He beleived alot of that crap. He has backed off it quite a bit since “Climategate” though. I lwent to hear O’Reilly speak at the Reagan Library just before Commie Obama took office and he was way too kind too Obama, saying “let’s give him a chance”. I knew what kind of Commie Pinko this guy was from things Obama has said in his book, his Church was a big give away and the fact that he was hanging around with a lot of people like Bill Ayres. Birds of a feather. All my worst fears with Obama are coming true. Obama is nothing but pure Commie filth.

Fear. That is the word that defines you tea party heroes. Fear of the Islamics, fear of the Russians, fear of the communists. Fear of being nuked. Fear of the President. I always thought cowboys were fearless. But most of them are back in the bunkhouse, shaking in their boots.

So true, Valkyrie, so very true. That we have so many Amerikans, largely conservatives, who so love living in abject, quivering, cowering, urine puddling fear is a national tragedy. Fear of the Wobblies taking over the world, fear of Communists under the bed, fear of men in turbans cowering in bushes, fear of African Americans voting, fear of Hispanic taking their jobs, fear, FEAR, F E A R …. Tragic!

“Amerikans.” The sixties are over, Minister Royal. And are you saying we have absolutely nothing to fear from those ‘men in turbans’? There’s a difference between being paranoid and using a fair amount of caution when dealing with people who hate us. But that’s right, since Obama was elected the whole world now loves us. Even Ahmadinejad. Nothing to fear but fear itself.

I’m not sure fear is ever wise or productive, and while Amerikans may be fearful people, Americans are not.

And these ‘Amerikans’ are anyone who doesn’t agree with your Nation of Islam philosophy.

The situation of the world, from the standpoint of danger, was much more extreme during the sixties. Marxist/Leninism was a real threat back then. Much more extremely than it has been since the end of the cold war. Russia and China seek economic growth, as opposed to blowing us up, and they have substantially adopted our way of life, our secular capitalist ways. We won. So now we reduce our nulcear arsenal and start making peace with our old enemies. And when we do that, the conservatives are crying, I’m scared.

OH! Is that why I get pension checks from 2 different union locals? I guess you would be considered a damn liar.”

John, you are a certified fool. There are plenty of fired people who get pensions and you are one of them.

I bet you are proud to be a sordid, union thug, aren’t ya, coward?

Wait a minute, valk. Isn’t the left always crying “I’m scared!” about all this ‘violence’ the tea parties are doing? So if a guy at a tea party is carrying a nasty sign, that’s terrifying, but Iran getting nukes isn’t?

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No writer, we are not scared by the threats of violence. And explain to me how Iran having a nuclear weapon is going to change the world? All the rest of the nuclear countries developed their own weapons, why should not Iran? Iran would not use their weapons because of the same reason that the U.S., Russia, China, Pakistan, et al. have not used their’s, Mutual Assured Destruction. Iran is actually quite proud of their race and there is no way they are going to end it by using a nuclear bomb. (And we have not said much of the fact that Israel has nuclear weapons). Nuclear material has its own fingerprint, as any scientist knows. If Iran gave a weapon to terrorists and it was detonated, it would just be like Iran doing it directly. Iran knows that. There is no such thing as a nuclear weapon that can not be traced to its origin. Iran is not suicidal.

Fear is what prevents the nations of the world from living in peace. Obama extends a hand, he listens, he is reasonable. This is the kind of man we want talking for us. Because we are not afraid.

Wow, a lot of noise over a complete non-issue. O’Reilly basically said that he likes being the world’s superpower/policeman, and he thinks Obama doesn’t, and that these are generally the feelings of the left and right, and that both sides are entitled to that opinion.

I’d tend to agree with him. I lean left, think all of our military interventionism is a huge waste of tax payers’ money and soldiers’ lives. Bill feels differently, and I support his right to have a separate opinion from mine. There is nothing anywhere in this clip that is a big deal.

Yea, bc, these threads just blend together. :-)

Iran itself probably wouldn’t use the nuke. But Iran is terrorist-friendly, and if some of them got hold of a nuke, they would use it. That’s the fear of Iran having nukes. Should we be terrified or cry about it? No. But it’s at least as scary as someone holding a risque sign at a tea party.

valkyrie101 says:
April 15, 2010 at 8:33 am

And yet, while you talk about “fear,” you’re clearly afraid of FOX News… afraid of the Tea Partiers… afraid of Christians, and so on. Perhaps isn’t not “fear” you’re really upset about, it’s “fear” directed at people who you aren’t afraid of. You’re afraid of people who disagree with you… they’re afraid of violent extremists, and unresponsive politicians. Interesting.

valkyrie101 says:
April 15, 2010 at 1:17 pm

No writer, we are not scared by the threats of violence. And explain to me how Iran having a nuclear weapon is going to change the world? … Iran is not suicidal.”

Do you really think this? They’ve said their intentions time and time again. You just don’t believe them?

Iran has little respect for the people who live within it’s borders… that’s fairly obvious. So the leaders will hide out in Syria or another friendly neighbor, and who cares if Israel or America respond?

You’re putting too much logic and decency into your thoughts about Iran. They’re not operating on the same plain. When Bin Laden attacked America on 9/11, do you think he was worried about retaliation? Of course he knew that we would hit back… but that wasn’t the point. He’d hide if he had to, as long as the attack was carried out. Hell, there are/were people willing to strap bombs to themselves all over Afghanistan and Iraq! They’re not afraid of dying… and that makes them very lethal. So why would they be afraid of an American response?

Bottom line, suicide bombers refute the statement that, “they’re not suicidal.” Clearly, they are.

The signs represent the hand writing on the wall. We on the left, having gone through this situation during Nixon, with the likes of that moron, Ayers and the like out trying to stir up violence. However, the left closed the door on that anti-government violence coming from its ranks. Now Ayers is a harmless teacher. :-)

valkyrie101 says:
April 15, 2010 at 1:51 pm

Yeah, except for those SEIU guys who beat up tea party protestors… or the Black Panthers, whom the Obama Justice Department seems to want to protect.

valkyrie101 says:
April 15, 2010 at 1:51 pm

Oh, and don’t forget Congressman Weiner. Or is “yesterday” too hard to remember?

Gosh, there are just a handful of those Black Panthers, as compared to the number angry white men with guns. Half of them are pretty wealthy hiding out in gated communities with their loaded side arm, and supply of “last days” seeds, while the other half are holed up in their own kind of bunker somewhere, looking for action, but being too scared to come out. All of these men talk tough because they are scared. These are the neo-conservatives.

Gosh, there are just a handful of those Black Panthers, as compared to the number angry white men with guns.”

And how many were arrested for BREAKING the law?? 0

O REILY IS A RACIST WITH A GUN…..HIS SHOW IS THE GUN

Tyler,
Thanks to my man, Glenn Beck, lots of those guys have been arrested lately. He gets them off their couch, and that is how we catch them. Let the latently violent come out from their holes.

Wasn’t that militia in Michigan just a handful of guys? I would guess the Black Panthers outnumber them. During the sixties, it would’ve been unfair to say that everyone on the left was as violent as the Weathermen and Bill Ayers. It’s just as unfair to look at a handful of militia members or a few signs in a tea party crowd, and equate that with a nation wide movement of conservatives towards violence.

There are over 120 known armed militia groups in the U.S., three times as many as there were two or three years ago.

Because the tea party is made up of a large number of people who are “angry” at the Federal government (And please do not deny that “angry” part because that is a word which is invariably used by tea party people), then people who really hate the government, in an extreme sense, can hide out. Or at least find common ground there. So to seperate out these people, the tea party needs to renounce violence or armed revolt. The thing is, in the back of their minds, there are a lot of second amendment people who have a vision of fighting it out with the ATF, and the tea party might not be willing to renounce violence. And that shall be telling.

valkyrie101 says:
April 15, 2010 at 2:02 pm

Gosh, there are just a handful of those Black Panthers, as compared to the number angry white men with guns.

Ah, so you think there are just “too many” of them. How much is too much?

Oh, and if they’re such a problem, why haven’t any of them been arrested? Why was it the NPP who was charged with voter intimidation… but not any of those “scary old White guys?”

Seems like you’re afraid of the folks who haven’t done anything… but the folks with the rap sheet, they’re a-okay. I wonder why?

Blue,
There have been several high profile cases of angry white men being arrested recently who have threatened the lives of our political leaders. There was a whole group of those guys arrested recently who had intended to kill policemen and their families. A guy flew his plane into the IRS building. A few years ago, some guy blew up a whole building, Timothy McVeigh. So, far from what you say, several have been arrested. I do not consider such people to be true representatives of the right or the tea party. I am only saying, when so many peace loving people who are “angry” at the Federal government gather, they will inadvertently gather other people who are not so peaceful. It is not a condemnation of the tea party to say that. I wish it well, but not if it refuses to renounce violence. The American people will not be threatened.

valkyrie101 says:
April 15, 2010 at 5:21 pm

And as I said, if it renounces violence, then the next day the left will jump on them saying, “See, they had to renounce it, because clearly things were getting violent. If they weren’t, why would they have said it.” It’s a catch-22… and since those folks arrested have no affiliation with the Tea Party, why should they renounce them?

No, it is a simple request, if the tea party movement is peaceful, let it organize itself, and render, like an Obama non-proliferation agreement, to a pact that rules out violence against our democratically elected government. But the tea party’s 2nd amendment corp would try to twist that as a bad thing. No, the country needs to hear a formal statement from the tea party that references its values. One of them must be no violence, ala Martin Luther King Jr., because otherwise, you invite the violent to be in your ranks. Come on, isn’t that the dirty little secret?

Tea party people have no right to harbor reservations about using violence against democratically elected officials, unless the Glenn spectacle, the scenario that makes him cry for America, with a total collapse of the government, rule by despot, great judgment, earth quakes, gold and last day’s seeds, and whatever, preceeding Jesus riding in on his burro, comes to pass. Then those second amendment rights will pay off. :-)

valkyrie101 says:
April 15, 2010 at 6:54 pm

So you believe that unless they say “we won’t be violent,” they’re implying they “will be violent?” Wow. So unless I say, “I’m not going to punch you in the nose,” to everyone I meet… they should be afraid?

What it sounds like is you’re afraid of people who disagree with you, for no real reason. Sure, some of them have guns… but how many of them have shot anyone? Is your fear based in reality, or is it just in your mind? What is the basis of your fear?

valkyrie101 says:
April 15, 2010 at 7:25 pm

Hitting the pipe again, I see. That made no sense… what in the heck are you talking about?

Blue,
You can talk around the point all you want. The Black civil rights movement, its leader, Martin Luther King Jr., preached non-violence. Sure, some people ignored that, and there was some violence. But not because of the civil rights movement or its non-violent leadership. Likewise, the tea party wants to bring about change, then let them announce to do that without violence, in accord with our Constitution.

I have no fear of the tea party. I am happy for it. Its healthy for our nation. Appropriate expression is always a good thing. But America will not be threatened, and those “We did not come armed, this time” signs are beyond the pale of appropriate expression.

Face it, the tea party is not willing to disavow violence, because quite a few of their members celebrate it.

“There have been several high profile cases of angry white men being arrested recently who have threatened the lives of our political leaders. There was a whole group of those guys arrested recently who had intended to kill policemen and their families”

Man in militia that threatened to kill policeman and their families…is A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT;

The man who flew the plane into the IRS was a Leftist and Communist and supported Obamacare.

Jihad Jamie Poulin-Ramirez family are Democrats.

Shawn Mobley, the terrorist caught in Yemen, is a Liberal Democrat.

The guy who shot up the Pentagon was a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT.

The University professor who shot and killed 3 other professors was an Obama supporter.

The man who shot and killed the security at the Museum of Tolerance was anti-Bush and anti-Catholic.

uh, it looks like the ones who are a threat to the country are not the Tea Party people, but crazies on the Left.