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Zbigniew Brzezinski Tells Morning Joe Obama Didn’t Really ‘Blow It’ On Egypt

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On the heels of Monday’s lively discussion with Niall Ferguson, whose cover story in Newsweek brands President Obama‘s handling of the uprising in Egypt a failure, MSNBC’s Morning Joe returned to the question Tuesday morning with former national security adviser–and Mika Brzezinski‘s Dad–Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski dismissed the suggestion that Obama necessarily “blew it.”

“The fact is the United States and the White House weren’t all that central to the events in Egypt,” said Brzezinski, who credits coverage of the uprising by Al Jazeera and the extensive use of social media by protesters for the rapid pace of events in Cairo. “We weren’t that central to these events.”

“We don’t know how this is going to turn out, so let’s be very careful whether it’s a triumph or a massive setback. We just don’t know.”

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  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    Republicans think he did, Democrats think he didn’t, independents aren’t sure, and the reality is that nobody really knows.

  • Black and Gold Brad

    After Mika got schooled by Ferguson, she ran to Daddy to make it better.

  • tatboy

    Mika brought in her DADDY to cover her as and push her liberal spin. Hahahahaha. OMG best Mediaite post EVER. This is when nirvana feels like. :). Hahahahaha. I think I’ll go with the guy from Harvard. Hahahahaha. Holy crap she brought in her DAD. “Don’t you spank my daughter young man”. Hahahahaha

  • tatboy

    Daddy make the mean boy stop. Hahahahahaha.

  • Hugo Daun

    tatboy said:
    I think I’ll go with the guy from Harvard.

    Which guy from Harvard? .

  • tatboy

    Hugo Daun said:
    Which guy from Harvard? .

    Niall Ferguson who was on yesterday and made Mika (and the rest of the panel) look stupid. Now she brought in her daddy to prop her up.

  • notsofast

    You have to remember that famous dust up between Joe and Zbig over the Palestinian peace treaty with Israel during Clinton’s term and Zbig lectured Joe on what happened. Problem was that Joe was RIGHT and Zbig was wrong!

  • The Real Royal King

    Black and Gold Brad said:
    After Mika got schooled by Ferguson, she ran to Daddy to make it better.

    If by “schooled” you mean “treated rudely” you are correct.

    Otherwise, your post is dismissive and condescending. Ms. Brzezinski is an exceptionally bright woman. The fact that she shares an opinion different than yours does not make her an imbecile. In fact, it may well be an another indication of her intelligence.

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    You have to remember that famous dust up between Joe and Zbig over the Palestinian peace treaty with Israel during Clinton’s term and Zbig lectured Joe on what happened. Problem was that Joe was RIGHT and Zbig was wrong!

    I remember Joe as being “stunningly superficial” in the exchange. As he often is.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    Ms. Brzezinski is an exceptionally bright woman.

    LOL

    You just made my coffee shoot out of my nose, son! She is the one whose favorite founding father was Abe Lincoln!!

  • Hugo Daun

    tatboy said:
    Niall Ferguson who was on yesterday and made Mika (and the rest of the panel) look stupid. Now she brought in her daddy to prop her up.

    Dr. Brzezinski (another “guy from Harvard”) is a great choice to rebut Ferguson, whether or not he is Mika’s father.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    I remember Joe as being “stunningly superficial” in the exchange.

    Wrong! Clinton said the same thing Joe said, son.

  • gar

    MSNBC damage control.
    Yesterday 4 versus 1 and the 4 couldn’t pull the trigger because Niall would have chewed them up and spit them out. Deer in the headlight looks from all of them. They better stick with the mental midgets they can bully.

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    Zbig has been consistently wrong on the Middle East his entire life. He – and his idiot daughter – are unapologetic supporters of terrorists in the Middle East. They routinely blame Israel for everything and let us not forget Zbig’s deft handling of Iran.

    This is one of those times when I totally agree with notsofast.

    By the way, making Mika look stupid is ridiculously easy: “So, Mika, what time is it?” That usually does it.

  • TangledThorns

    I think it’ll be a year to see how this goes. Especially if there are elections held or not.

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    The Real Royal King said:
    Ms. Brzezinski is an exceptionally bright woman.

    Seriously? Seriously? Honestly, King, sometimes you have to point at a person regardless of side and say, “Moron!” The only reason Mika has that job is daddy. She is a flat out idiot. The woman can barely spell ‘NBC.’ Scarborough is no intellectual giant either, but at least he knows what a terrorist is.

  • skyfet

    tatboy said:
    I think I’ll go with the guy from Harvard.

    I thought you guys regard the people from Harvard as Elitist. So you accept their views when it suits you, but when it doesn’t you throw a tantrum and scream ELITISTS.

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    TangledThorns said:
    I think it’ll be a year to see how this goes. Especially if there are elections held or not.

    Exactly.All we can do is offer help when asked and watch patiently.

  • tatboy

    The Real Royal King said:
    If by “schooled” you mean “treated rudely” you are correct.

    Otherwise, your post is dismissive and condescending. Ms. Brzezinski is an exceptionally bright woman. The fact that she shares an opinion different than yours does not make her an imbecile. In fact, it may well be an another indication of her intelligence.

    How was she treated rudely? He rebutted her assertions… And did it quite well. I thought if anyone was rude it was her and her introduction of “Hay look at the pictures”. Are you saying that Ferguson is wrong? And if so how? I feel he made his points quite well and explaned then in detail. If you feel his assertions are misplaced I would be very interested in how you feel they are and what you see differently from Mr. Ferguson.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Oh my gosh, this is tryly embarrassing. A journalist having their daddy come on to defend them. Wow, any credibitliy she had is gone now.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    truly, before I’m cited.

  • tatboy

    Hugo Daun said:
    Dr. Brzezinski (another “guy from Harvard”) is a great choice to rebut Ferguson, whether or not he is Mika’s father.

    I’m sure they could have brought in someone else besides her dad to counter Mr. Ferguson. This looks bad nomatter how you spin it. Is international affairs her dads area of expertise?

  • tatboy

    skyfet said:
    I thought you guys regard the people from Harvard as Elitist. So you accept their views when it suits you, but when it doesn’t you throw a tantrum and scream ELITISTS.

    Some moron tried that with me yesterday and got made a fool of. So I’ll make you the same offer. Find a post of mine ANYWHERE where I xo that. Or are you just a BIGOT that lumps people together you hate? Like the Klan?

  • hanniballa

    She blew it hard and then she had to have her daddy come on to make her feel better!?!? MSNBC has really gotten bad,a nd that’s saying something.

  • skyfet

    tatboy said:
    How was she treated rudely? He rebutted her assertions… And did it quite well. I thought if anyone was rude it was her and her introduction of “Hay look at the pictures”. Are you saying that Ferguson is wrong? And if so how? I feel he made his points quite well and explaned then in detail. If you feel his assertions are misplaced I would be very interested in how you feel they are and what you see differently from Mr. Ferguson.

    Trying so hard to defend the Elitist you all claim to detest. This is amazing.

    Note: I disagree with the way BO and his cronies handle the Egyptian situation, but am fascinated by your strong stance to defend someone you supposedly belongs to the class that you all detest. Fascinating!

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Sky says:

    I thought you guys regard the people from Harvard as Elitist. So you accept their views when it suits you, but when it doesn’t you throw a tantrum and scream ELITISTS.

    No, we take it into consideration, but we don’t think going to Harvard is the be all end all and makes you an expert on absolutely everything.

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Oh my gosh, this is tryly embarrassing. A journalist having their daddy come on to defend them. Wow, any credibitliy she had is gone now.

    Glenn Beck have you all the time defending him. No one is crying about that.

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Sky says:

    I thought you guys regard the people from Harvard as Elitist. So you accept their views when it suits you, but when it doesn’t you throw a tantrum and scream ELITISTS.

    No, we take it into consideration, but we don’t think going to Harvard is the be all end all and makes you an expert on absolutely everything.

    You are not an expert in anything, nothing, nada.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Sky says:

    Glenn Beck have you all the time defending him.

    Can you translate that into English, por favor?

  • Obeezy

    skyfet said:
    Glenn Beck have you all the time defending him. No one is crying about that.

    I believe i read here everyday people doing exactly that..

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    What makes Niall Ferguson a hero to those on the right? He’s the MOTHER of all neo-cons who not only wants the US to invade and occupy places like Iraq, but to damn near annex them into an empire.

    Are we to the point that right wingers here don’t really care who the messenger is, or what the messenger stands for, just that the messenger rudely attacks those on the left?

    –Cobra

  • gar

    skyfet said:
    I thought you guys regard the people from Harvard as Elitist. So you accept their views when it suits you, but when it doesn’t you throw a tantrum and scream ELITISTS.

    It doesn’t make a difference what school they came from. As a matter of fact it’s mostly liberals that will bring up education and what special awards have been bestowed on an individual.
    What did Niall say yesterday that was false?
    Betwen Biden, Obama, and Clinton three different messages were sent. Problem with this administration is they’re looking to cash in with public favor with everything they do. After Honduras they should’ve learned thier lesson. Can’t keep playing both sides of the street and make any friends.

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Sky says:

    Glenn Beck have you all the time defending him.

    Can you translate that into English, por favor?

    You devote your time as his (Sister), defend is BS , day in day out. So, perhaps you and Mika have something in common.

  • Hugo Daun

    tatboy said:
    Is international affairs her dads area of expertise?

    Dr. Brzezinski has had considerably more experience (and influence) on international affairs than Ferguson, certainly.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “The fact is the United States and the White House weren’t all that central to the events in Egypt,” said Brzezinski, who credits coverage of the uprising by Al Jazeera and the extensive use of social media by protesters for the rapid pace of events in Cairo. “We weren’t that central to these events.”

    sarainitaly said:

    ““looking at all the different reports coming in, and the pictures, and the peacefulness on the streets of Cairo, so far so good it actually seems like it went pretty damn well.”

    Perhaps it did go well, Mika, but *WTF* did Obama have to do with it? How does having four different statements/ policies happening at the same time reflect positively on the outcome of this? Reports were that Obama was blindsided by this, repeatedly, and he didn’t even speak to Mubarak… I fail to see how he had any influence at all, actually.

    Mika may have brought in her dad to defend her, but he doesn’t. She was giving credit to Obama for the outcome, and saying it went “pretty damn well” because of his intervention.

    Not only does Daddy say Obama was irrelevant, he said “We don’t know how this is going to turn out, so let’s be very careful whether it’s a triumph or a massive setback. We just don’t know.”

    Point still goes to Ferguson. Like 50 points, actually.

  • WCinWI

    skyfet said:
    You are not an expert in anything, nothing, nada.

    Hi racist!

  • WCinWI

    Hugo Daun said:
    Dr. Brzezinski has had considerably more experience (and influence) on international affairs than Ferguson, certainly.

    So he can attest to the horrible side of ME affairs just fine.

  • skyfet

    gar said:
    It doesn’t make a difference what school they came from. As a matter of fact it’s mostly liberals that will bring up education and what special awards have been bestowed on an individual.
    What did Niall say yesterday that was false?
    Betwen Biden, Obama, and Clinton three different messages were sent. Problem with this administration is they’re looking to cash in with public favor with everything they do. After Honduras they should’ve learned thier lesson. Can’t keep playing both sides of the street and make any friends.

    You can try to spin your way out of the hole, but it’s just too deep. How many times have I heard people pointing fingers and dismissing people because they went to Yale and Harvard? saying that they are not with the folks, they are stuck up, this and that.
    Now someone come in with his opinion, which he defended brilliantly, you see the phonies trying to claim him, yet they are the same folks that treat the Harvard and Yale crowd as Elitist looking down from the Ivory tower.

    Bust your bubble, so stop trying to dig yourself out of the ignorant hole you guys have dug for yourself.

  • tatboy

    skyfet said:
    Trying so hard to defend the Elitist you all claim to detest. This is amazing.

    Note: I disagree with the way BO and his cronies handle the Egyptian situation, but am fascinated by your strong stance to defend someone you supposedly belongs to the class that you all detest. Fascinating!

    Again. Show me where I’ve shown distain for intellect. Show me one post. When you can’t admit your a bigot.

  • skyfet

    WCinWI said:
    Hi racist!

    Has someone said to you before?

    Hi Slut?

  • WCinWI

    In other news, the President’s news conference is looking abysmal.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Oh my god, a voice of reason amongst all of this who states the obvious while everybody else just speculates.

  • tatboy

    Hugo Daun said:
    Dr. Brzezinski has had considerably more experience (and influence) on international affairs than Ferguson, certainly.

    How? I need examples not just your word. What is her daddy’s CV?

  • WCinWI

    skyfet said:
    Has someone said to you before?

    Hi Slut?

    Why must you disrespect the President so much? Clearly a racist.

  • skyfet

    tatboy said:
    Again. Show me where I’ve shown distain for intellect. Show me one post. When you can’t admit your a bigot.

    People who play the race card and the Bigotry card easily, mostly do it out of spitefulness, especially when they want to shut you up.

    You can’t shut me up, I’ve got you cornered, and you can’t run nor hide.

  • tatboy

    skyfet said:
    Has someone said to you before?

    Hi Slut?

    Stay classy. Found that quote yet?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Sky says:

    People who play the race card and the Bigotry card easily, mostly do it out of spitefulness, especially when they want to shut you up.

    Well you just discribed a large portion of the left.

  • skyfet

    WCinWI said:
    Why must you disrespect the President so much? Clearly a racist.

    You sound like an ignoramus who needs to be ignored, who is referring to BO here?

    Go and play with your toy.

  • WCinWI

    skyfet said:
    People who play the race card and the Bigotry card easily, mostly do it out of spitefulness, especially when they want to shut you up.

    You can’t shut me up, I’ve got you cornered, and you can’t run nor hide.

    I wouldn’t talk about elitism or intelligence with your poor grammar skills.

    You might want to check how to word sentences before posting them. Otherwise your whole “this person is stupid” meme kinda floats out the window. Just saying.

  • tatboy

    skyfet said:
    People who play the race card and the Bigotry card easily, mostly do it out of spitefulness, especially when they want to shut you up.

    You can’t shut me up, I’ve got you cornered, and you can’t run nor hide.

    Dumbest comeback EVER. I will take that as a FAIL.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Sky says:

    People who play the race card and the Bigotry card easily, mostly do it out of spitefulness, especially when they want to shut you up.

    Well you just discribed a large portion of the left.

    As well as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.

  • skyfet

    tatboy said:
    Stay classy. Found that quote yet?

    You tell me to stay classy?

    I only responded to his statement. It would have showed how reasonable you are, if you had responded to his absurd claim.

  • WCinWI

    skyfet said:
    You sound like an ignoramus who needs to be ignored, who is referring to BO here?

    Go and play with your toy.

    Hi racist toy!

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Sky says:

    People who play the race card and the Bigotry card easily, mostly do it out of spitefulness, especially when they want to shut you up.

    Well you just discribed a large portion of the left.

    I know race and defending Beck is your favourite pastime.

  • The Real Royal King

    sarainitaly said:
    “The fact is the United States and the White House weren’t all that central to the events in Egypt,” said Brzezinski, who credits coverage of the uprising by Al Jazeera and the extensive use of social media by protesters for the rapid pace of events in Cairo. “We weren’t that central to these events.”

    Mika may have brought in her dad to defend her, but he doesn’t. She was giving credit to Obama for the outcome, and saying it went “pretty damn well” because of his intervention.

    Not only does Daddy say Obama was irrelevant, he said “We don’t know how this is going to turn out, so let’s be very careful whether it’s a triumph or a massive setback. We just don’t know.”

    Point still goes to Ferguson. Like 50 points, actually.

    Actually, not. Sounds like jealousy to me. Mika is very attractive and very bright, and since this is the first major foreign policy matter in 10 years which did not lead to an invasion and occupation in which 4,000 American troops were killed, 100,000 foreign national men, women and children were killed, the American budget deficit soared and American economic collapse followed, I think this is, indeed, pretty well done.

  • WCinWI

    skyfet said:
    You tell me to stay classy?

    I only responded to his statement. It would have showed how reasonable you are, if you had responded to his absurd claim.

    He would be a she.

    And the claim is simple. The President has called for us to all be more civil. I’m merely asking why you fail to heed his request. Clearly, you must disrespect the President and must be a racist.

    Next question.

  • WCinWI

    skyfet said:
    I know race and defending Beck is your favourite pastime.

    You must live abroad. We don’t spell favorite that way in the US. That’s a French/British thing that folks in Canada and abroad do. So if that’s the case, why are you commenting on US blogs?

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Sky says:

    I thought you guys regard the people from Harvard as Elitist. So you accept their views when it suits you, but when it doesn’t you throw a tantrum and scream ELITISTS.

    No, we take it into consideration, but we don’t think going to Harvard is the be all end all and makes you an expert on absolutely everything.

    Yes, you summed it up very well, indeed, Sky.

  • skyfet

    WCinWI said:
    You must live abroad. We don’t spell favorite that way in the US. That’s a French/British thing that folks in Canada and abroad do. So if that’s the case, why are you commenting on US blogs?

    I spell the way I want to spell, dummy. As long as it’s accepted by the word document, its fine by me.

  • The Real Royal King

    WCinWI said:
    skyfet said:
    I know race and defending Beck is your favourite pastime.

    You must live abroad. We don’t spell favorite that way in the US. That’s a French/British thing that folks in Canada and abroad do. So if that’s the case, why are you commenting on US blogs?

    You need to address that question to Tumbleweed from Berlusconireich as well.

    You ought to note that there are, in fact, Americans who studied abroad and who picked up the “u” affectation. I frequently write colour, harbour, gouverment and the like.

  • Annie Oakley

    tatboy said:
    How? I need examples not just your word. What is her daddy’s CV?

    Not that I’d BRAG about what he “accomplished” in his time advising on foreign policy! The takeover of Iran, normalizing relations with China, SALT II, the Panama Canal, supporting the mujahadin in Afghansitan (hmm, wonder what that led to ???), etc. He WAS involved in the Camp David Accords.

    Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski (Polish: Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzeziński, pronounced [ˈzbiɡɲev bʐɛˈʑiĩ̯ski]; born March 28, 1928) is a Polish American political scientist, geostrategist, and statesman who served as United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981.

    Major foreign policy events during his term of office included the normalization of relations with the People’s Republic of China (and the severing of ties with the Republic of China), the signing of the second Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT II), the brokering of the Camp David Accords, the transition of Iran from an important US client state to an anti-Western Islamic Republic, encouraging dissidents in Eastern Europe and emphasizing certain human rights in order to undermine the influence of the Soviet Union,[1] the financing of the mujahideen in Afghanistan in response to the Soviet deployment of forces there[2] (allegedly either to help deter a Russian invasion, or to deliberately increase the chance of such an intervention occurring—or for both contradictory reasons simultaneously being embraced by separate US officials[3]) and the arming of these rebels to counter the Soviet invasion, and the signing of the Torrijos-Carter Treaties relinquishing overt US control of the Panama Canal after 1999.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    The Real Royal King said:
    You need to address that question to Tumbleweed from Berlusconireich as well.

    You ought to note that there are, in fact, Americans who studied abroad and who picked up the “u” affectation. I frequently write colour, harbour, gouverment and the like.

    I have friends studying in Italy. If they come back doing that shit they’re disowned.

  • skyfet

    WCinWI said:
    He would be a she.

    And the claim is simple. The President has called for us to all be more civil. I’m merely asking why you fail to heed his request. Clearly, you must disrespect the President and must be a racist.

    Next question.

    I’m not sure if you are a she/he, the only one that can testify to that is the one who shares your bed. Frankly, I don’t care if you are a transvestite or a drag queen, you are what you are. Like Gaga said in her new song, you were born this way, so be proud of it.

  • tatboy

    skyfet said:
    I’m not sure if you are a she/he, the only one that can testify to that is the one who shares your bed. Frankly, I don’t care if you are a transvestite or a drag queen, you are what you are. Like Gaga said in her new song, you were born this way, so be proud of it.

    What??? Are you for real?

  • skyfet

    tatboy said:
    What??? Are you for real?

    What’s fake about it?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Mika may have brought in her dad to defend her, but he doesn’t. She was giving credit to Obama for the outcome, and saying it went “pretty damn well” because of his intervention.

    Not only does Daddy say Obama was irrelevant, he said “We don’t know how this is going to turn out, so let’s be very careful whether it’s a triumph or a massive setback. We just don’t know.”

    Uh, no, rrk, I was right, and you are wrong, as usual.

    BRZEZINSKI: Niall, flip followed by flop followed by flip, to use your words, seems to have worked, did it not?

    FERGUSON: It’s worked, has it – I wish I shared your confidence. Right now we have a six-month period of military rule, right now we have as far as I can see virtually no organization on the part of secular democrats. …It is far too early to say that this is a triumph. On the contrary, the risks are extremely high that between now and the end of the year, the Muslim Brotherhood will get into power. And then we will be staring at something comparable in its magnitude to 1979 in Iran.

    No,she gave credit to Obama. And she said it went very well. Both Ferguson and her father told her Obama was irrelevant and it is too early to say how it went.

  • WCinWI

    The Real Royal King said:
    You need to address that question to Tumbleweed from Berlusconireich as well.

    You ought to note that there are, in fact, Americans who studied abroad and who picked up the “u” affectation. I frequently write colour, harbour, gouverment and the like.

    I’ve been an exchange student in high school twice to Germany and also studied abroad in college. If someone wishes to talk about education programs or someone’s intelligence level, I only ask them to logically make sense and not insert u’s too often. If you’re a dual citizen or are in your infancy years of learning English, by all means spell a word or two wrong. Otherwise, you must be held to perfection. :)

  • WCinWI

    tatboy said:
    What??? Are you for real?

    Haha I’m sure he’s a Bieber fan too.

  • writer

    And there I thought the King spelled things with a ‘u’ just because he’s an arrogant joeurk.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    colour, harbour, gouverment

    I have friends studying in Italy. If they come back doing that shit they’re disowned.

    they won’t.

  • im_lovin_it

    Wow…i can’t believe this topic has now turned into racism and transvestites.

    This whole thing is just funny, no matter who you are. Yesterday some Harvard guy came on disagreed with Mika and thought the President did a bad job dealing with Egypt. So what do they do? Call up the reanimated corpse of some JImmy Carter minion a.k.a. Dear Old Dad. I mean, on the surface when one thinks of smashing foreign policy success one thinks Jimmy Carter, right?

    I suppose you could get into lengthy debates about the Iranian Revolution and all of that, but why would you want to? It’s Morning f*cking Joe for the love of God. Add up all the morning news programs and you have the Gathering of the Juggalos. On every channel.

  • skyfet

    writer said:
    And there I thought the King spelled things with a ‘u’ just because he’s an arrogant joeurk.

    Jerk, that’s how it is in any form of English. The U stuff manifests itself in spellings that sounds our, e.g. colour (color), behaviour (behavior). Unless you are acting like the J word you mentioned, I suggest you should behave nicely.

    Capiche?

  • skyfet

    sarainitaly said:
    they won’t.

    Are you scared you’d be disowned?

    Don’t worry, you have loads of friends here on mediaite, who would take you.

  • writer

    skyfet, I always treat the King with all the respect he deserves.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    sarainitaly said:
    they won’t.

    Are you familiar with the Florence area?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    skyfet said:
    Capiche?

    in italian, what you just wrote would be pronounced ka-pee-kae
    the correct form in italian is: capisco?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    skyfet said:
    Are you scared you’d be disowned?

    Don’t worry, you have loads of friends here on mediaite, who would take you.

    no, they won’t, because they don’t spell those words that way.

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Are you familiar with the Florence area?

    i have been to florence about 10 times, so somewhat familiar.

  • skyfet

    sarainitaly said:
    in italian, what you just wrote would be pronounced ka-pee-kae
    the correct form in italian is: capisco?

    Unn, seems to be picking some basic Italiano.

    Comstae?

    By the way, in English, we spell it capiche. You calling it capisco is going in too deep (which is not necessary).

  • The Real Royal King

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    The Real Royal King said:
    You need to address that question to Tumbleweed from Berlusconireich as well.

    You ought to note that there are, in fact, Americans who studied abroad and who picked up the “u” affectation. I frequently write colour, harbour, gouverment and the like.

    I have friends studying in Italy. If they come back doing that shit they’re disowned.

    Italy, not so much, although there are decided Anglophile enclaves there. Obviously, the UK, likely in northern Germany, but not the south, less likely in the Netherlands, somewhat less likely still in French-speaking regions regions of Belgium. With the French, almost never, but they are Anglophobes.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    sarainitaly said:

    i have been to florence about 10 times, so somewhat familiar.

    Just curious because that’s where they stay. I’m thinking about doing a semester in the fall. Is the area really as beautiful as people make it or is a lot of it exaggeration?

  • Nobama

    Why is this relic of the failed Carter administration even relevant in this day and age? I wonder what his thoughts would be on Jimmy’s Iranian hostage crisis, or if he would say, “We weren’t that central to these events.”

    Take him back to the home, put a quilt on his lap, hand him a glass of warm milk, and let him watch “Wheel of Fortune”.

  • Olby Sucks

    sarainitaly said:
    in italian, what you just wrote would be pronounced ka-pee-kae
    the correct form in italian is: capisco?

    mexicans aren’t very good at any other language…

  • skyfet

    sarainitaly said:
    no, they won’t, because they don’t spell those words that way.

    i have been to florence about 10 times, so somewhat familiar.

    I quite like the Idea of moving round the street in Canoe in Naples.

    Navigate here, navigate there, no speeding tickets.

    Capiche!

  • The Real Royal King

    sarainitaly said:
    Mika may have brought in her dad to defend her, but he doesn’t. She was giving credit to Obama for the outcome, and saying it went “pretty damn well” because of his intervention.

    Not only does Daddy say Obama was irrelevant, he said “We don’t know how this is going to turn out, so let’s be very careful whether it’s a triumph or a massive setback. We just don’t know.”

    Uh, no, rrk, I was right, and you are wrong, as usual.

    BRZEZINSKI: Niall, flip followed by flop followed by flip, to use your words, seems to have worked, did it not?

    FERGUSON: It’s worked, has it – I wish I shared your confidence. Right now we have a six-month period of military rule, right now we have as far as I can see virtually no organization on the part of secular democrats. …It is far too early to say that this is a triumph. On the contrary, the risks are extremely high that between now and the end of the year, the Muslim Brotherhood will get into power. And then we will be staring at something comparable in its magnitude to 1979 in Iran.

    No,she gave credit to Obama. And she said it went very well. Both Ferguson and her father told her Obama was irrelevant and it is too early to say how it went.

    I am pleased I afforded you yet another opportunity to bash our President. It seems to give your life purpose and meaning. And, to bash a attractive and intelligent woman, glee as well. No need to thank me. Your happiness is thanks enough.

  • skyfet

    Olby Sucks said:
    mexicans aren’t very good at any other language…

    Except in Spanish!

    Comprehende?

  • The Real Royal King

    Olby Sucks said:
    mexicans aren’t very good at any other language…

    Thank you for today’s Xenophobia Moment.

  • writer

    Sara, have you ever seen the King bash one of our presidents? Raygun, for example? No, you haven’t. So there.

  • writer

    Have you ever seen the King bash an attractive woman? No!!! So there again!

  • WCinWI

    skyfet said:
    Unn, seems to be picking some basic Italiano.

    Comstae?

    By the way, in English, we spell it capiche. You calling it capisco is going in too deep (which is not necessary).

    When you figure out the English language, then you can tutor the rest on how to use it. Until then, zip it.

  • skyfet

    writer said:
    Have you ever seen the King bash an attractive woman? No!!! So there again!

    Are you a woman?

    If not, you seem to be talking from experience.

  • writer

    skyfet, you’ve never really paid attention to any of the King’s posts, have you?

  • Annie Oakley

    I do so love how the Dems hijack every thread at Mediate and refuse to discuss issues or policy, no matter the subject of the thread. Obviously, Alinsky tactics, learned in childhood, are the default position of the Left-wing.

  • skyfet

    I wouldn’t know what someone’s sex is. Unless they make it clear. Otherwise, how do you know who is who. Might be a freak for all you know.

  • skyfet

    Annie Oakley said:
    I do so love how the Dems hijack every thread at Mediate and refuse to discuss issues or policy, no matter the subject of the thread. Obviously, Alinsky tactics, learned in childhood, are the default position of the Left-wing.

    I bet you heard about Ailinsky from your Master Beck.

  • tatboy

    skyfet said:
    I bet you heard about Ailinsky from your Master Beck.

    And you heard it from who? Your mom??

  • writer

    So skyfet, you’ve never seen a post where the King bashes one of our presidents, or women? Really?

  • skyfet

    tatboy said:
    And you heard it from who? Your mom??

    You sound miserable today? whats up? why do you have to refer to my Mother?

    You know what, you are forgiven.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    skyfet said:
    Unn, seems to be picking some basic Italiano.

    Comstae?

    By the way, in English, we spell it capiche. You calling it capisco is going in too deep (which is not necessary).

    I was just teasing actually, because you went into an explanation about the U.
    come stai? is correct.
    capiche is slang that started in the US in the 40′s.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Just curious because that’s where they stay. I’m thinking about doing a semester in the fall. Is the area really as beautiful as people make it or is a lot of it exaggeration?

    florence is beautiful, but it is awfully crowded, and trafficky. there are so many things to see, and do. if you have the opportunity, i would recommend it. lots and lots of history. you can easily visit rome from there, and many wonderful towns in tuscany.

  • writer

    Nou kidding?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    skyfet said:
    I quite like the Idea of moving round the street in Canoe in Naples.

    Navigate here, navigate there, no speeding tickets.

    Capiche!

    huh? do you mean gondolas in Venezia? Gondolas and water taxis are quite pricey in Venice, although well worth it. Naples is the polar opposite of Venice. Traffic nightmares.

  • Dsiscokid

    The Real Royal King said:
    The Real Royal King

    A typical Anglophobe…………….

  • writer

    More like hydrophobe.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    writer said:
    Have you ever seen the King bash an attractive woman? No!!! So there again!

    writer said:
    Sara, have you ever seen the King bash one of our presidents? Raygun, for example? No, you haven’t. So there.

    he has so many issues, there are far too many to list. he just does it for attention.
    *look at me! look at me! i am attacking sara so she will give me attention!!! pleeeeeeease reply to me!!!!*
    i skip about 99.9% of his posts.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    WCinWI says:

    When you figure out the English language, then you can tutor the rest on how to use it. Until then, zip it.

    HAHA, I’d definately have to second that motion.

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:

    HAHA, I’d definately have to second that motion.

    Definitely.

    How oddly appropriate, or as you might write: aproprieight.

  • writer

    Moust assuouroureredly.

  • writer

    Thumbs douwoun?

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Oh yes, let’s heed the council of Zbigniew Brzezinski, the architect of Iran!

    The Muslim Brotherhood would be having a collective orgasm right about now, but for the fact under Sharia Law they’d have to kill themselves if they did!
    LOL

  • tatboy

    Annie Oakley said:
    Not that I’d BRAG about what he “accomplished” in his time advising on foreign policy! The takeover of Iran, normalizing relations with China, SALT II, the Panama Canal, supporting the mujahadin in Afghansitan (hmm, wonder what that led to ???), etc. He WAS involved in the Camp David Accords. Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski (Polish: Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzeziński, pronounced [ˈzbiɡɲev bʐɛˈʑiĩ̯ski]; born March 28, 1928) is a Polish American political scientist, geostrategist, and statesman who served as United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981. Major foreign policy events during his term of office included the normalization of relations with the People’s Republic of China (and the severing of ties with the Republic of China), the signing of the second Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT II), the brokering of the Camp David Accords, the transition of Iran from an important US client state to an anti-Western Islamic Republic, encouraging dissidents in Eastern Europe and emphasizing certain human rights in order to undermine the influence of the Soviet Union,[1] the financing of the mujahideen in Afghanistan in response to the Soviet deployment of forces there[2] (allegedly either to help deter a Russian invasion, or to deliberately increase the chance of such an intervention occurring—or for both contradictory reasons simultaneously being embraced by separate US officials[3]) and the arming of these rebels to counter the Soviet invasion, and the signing of the Torrijos-Carter Treaties relinquishing overt US control of the Panama Canal after 1999.

    Ummmm… ya. Kinda a mixed bag there don’t you think??? Don’t think I’m going with the guy who gave us Iran as we know it today. Mika should have gotten someone besides daddy to come to her aid.

  • espo222

    Just saw this story and couldn’t believe it. Joe must have been embarrassed that Mika brought her daddy in, to defend her. Imagine if Fox was set up to report on MSNBC, like MSNBC is with Fox–they would have a field day with this story. What’s next, Cenk’s mom is gonna come on tv and beg for more people to watch his show?

  • TfT

    DADDY HELP!!! LOL

    Calling Daddy in to help undo the bad words/feelings about he himself expressed on the air yesterday.

    D A D D Y!!!!

    Too funny,.

  • The Real Royal King

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    Oh yes, let’s heed the council of Zbigniew Brzezinski, the architect of Iran!

    The Muslim Brotherhood would be having a collective orgasm right about now, but for the fact under Sharia Law they’d have to kill themselves if they did!
    LOL

    “Council” is a noun referring to a group with some degree of authority to make rules and policies. I think you meant “counsel” as in: “Gle(n)n O’Beckerhead ought to listen to the counsel of his team of therapists.”

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    The Real Royal King said:
    “Council” is a noun referring to a group with some degree of authority to make rules and policies. I think you meant “counsel” as in: “Gle(n)n O’Beckerhead ought to listen to the counsel of his team of therapists.”

    Why thank you King, I stand corrected.
    Now, did you catch the humor of the Muslim Brotherhood reference?

  • Eruptor75

    Seriously, why don’t they start calling this show “Moron Joe”? Could Zbigniew be any more irrelevant? I know I have said this before, but Scarborough has to be banging Mika. This is becoming laughable. Mika makes Gretchen Carlson look like Nikola Tesla.

  • Grammie

    Keeva said:
    Exactly.All we can do is offer help when asked and watch patiently.

    .
    I fervently hope that we are working hard and smart behind the scenes to guarantee a secular government for Egypt.

  • Grammie

    Hugo Daun said:
    Dr. Brzezinski has had considerably more experience (and influence) on international affairs than Ferguson, certainly.

    .
    Agreed!

    Would you agree with me that we find ourselves in a royally screwed up world?

    It is a matter of debate exactly how much of our problems in the ME can be laid at Brzezinski’s door but certainly Iran and Afghanistan speak loudly even today.

  • TheEagle

    writer said:
    skyfet, you’ve never really paid attention to any of the King’s posts, have you?

    They seem like all you pay attention to. Is he your EX or something?

  • Grammie

    writer said:
    And there I thought the King spelled things with a ‘u’ just because he’s an arrogant joeurk.

    .
    Well, there’s that too!

  • writer

    Eagle, why so defensive of him? Are you two flirting?

  • writer

    “The Eagle” makes only one post, and that’s to defend the King from me.

    Nice try, King. But that avatar is nicer than the crown.

  • TheEagle

    writer said:
    “The Eagle” makes only one post, and that’s to defend the King from me. Nice try, King. But that avatar is nicer than the crown.

    Not defending anyone. But it does seem that most of your posts have to do with him. Seems a bit obsessive to me.

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