How is pointing out a fact racist? Is it ok for a certain poster who claims to be “hispanic” to scream “we are taking over your country?’

I’m crapping all over myself since I get to be the first one to call Hannity a Rino !!

I’m crapping all over myself since I get to be the first one to call Hannity a Rino !!

Oh Sean.  Hal Turner who?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/15/population.race

Whites WILL BE the minority in America around 2042. WHERE’S the controversy?

-Thank God, or not, that 0bama’s mother was “punished with a baby”-

He’s just trying to get a rise out of you.  Here in Texas, we tell them we are taking over your food and hot women.

I feel kind of sorry for Pat Buchanan.  He is seeing the world change around him and he can’t take it.  His job is to get on TV or write books and talk about what is going on in the world, and he can’t make heads or tails of it anymore.  So he lashes out at who he sees as his new enemies, the people who took away the world he remembers.  This is what happens when you are afraid of change and progress, you grow to become a caveman in a world that has continued evolving.  

This comes from a guy that is saying that Breivik was justified in his actions…

Maybe the indiginous population that the Europeans supplanted on the North American continent felt the same way as Pat does.

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I refute all likes that are attributed to a guest account.

They’re not facts they’re opinions.  And yes, Pat Buchanan is a racist.  A racist is a person who believes in racism,  the doctrine that a certain human race  is superior to any or all others.

I think it’s pretty obvious that Pat Buchanan thinks his race is superior to all other races in America. His position is that if his race becomes the minority, America would be worse off.

By the way, here is a helpful hint about discerning Buchanan’s facts from his opinions.  If he’s talking about what will happen in the future, it’s probably not a fact.  This is because facts are about what has happened or what is currently happening.  But what do I know, I’m not white.

so strange! today is like bizaro world, Chris Mathews was sticking up for Pat, and Hannity and Chris Wallace were throwing him under the bus. 

You don’t remember Hal Turner? Talk radio uberbigot?

First of all, it’s not a fact yet, it’s speculation. I don’t think the date of 2043 or even 2050 is realistic, but we’ll see, won’t we? What makes it racist is his maintaining that the loss of a white majority will spell doom for the entire country. He implies that a nation of brown people can’t sustain itself merely because they will not have a white majority to take care of them.

As to your second question – yes it’s ok, but if the hispanic in question works for a media outlet and that media outlet decides to fire him for it, that’s ok too. I don’t see Buchanan being arrested or even sued over this, so your comparison is faulty. 

Pat is a Racist….. move on. 

 speaking of bizarre…

 funny stuff…racist much?

What in my post was racist?

You don’t read the posts to which you respond, do you?

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whats wrong sock puppet? whats got your panties in a bunch up now?

 are you brown?

uh oh Pat is exposing the racist republican party…..pats reasoning is the reason why you fake Christians are so opposed to contraceptives and abortions…you fake all that concern for the fates of black children when in reality what worries you most is your own extinction,,,,,AMERICA IS BROWNING wingnuts…….get used to it….better yet GO MAKE A BABY…..twins if you can

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this is what I don’t give 3 phucks what you refute looks like….your a weird stalker and i am pretty certain you have mental issues, probably a chemical imbalance. So I kind of feel bad for you, living in that bubble like you do! 

I am sooooooooo impressed with your bona fides…just kidding…
Hannity must have had one of his rare come to Jesus moments.

 You should really hate Norbit and Gloves then.

And it seems to me that Buchanan is exceedingly liberal as compared to the posts of the majority of right-wing posters on this board – I sincerely hope they are not representative of the conservative cause.

It’s racially charged if a white conservative says it. It’s an In-Your-Face-Cracker fact if anyone on the left says it.

Basically, white people need to bend over and STFU about everything because they’re dirty, dirty bastards.

I’d suggest you keep an eye on the Asians. Hot women, math/tech skillz, they’ve got it going on. The world will not be ruled by people who know how to collect gubmint benefits for fatherless children.

Wow, after listening to Pat…..you’re fired!  MSNBC was right….you’re fired!  I saw Buchnan on MSNBC say that only white people built this country….really.  Glad he’s gone.

 And no one cares.

What is your belief based on? Do you have some “Whites are superior to everyone” quotes to share?

I think Jay Leno said it best when he told the audience that Pat’s wife’s name is “Honey”. “So this means we can refer to them as Nut ‘n Honey.” 

It was inevitable, he’s become the crazy uncle at Thanksgiving dinner.  Sort of like Jeremiah Wright in his final years.

 My, what an incisive, trenchant comment you’ve made here!

Really? Because Spike Lee said only people who can impose racism on another can be racists and he said that meant black people can’t be racist because they are not in a position of power. Personally? I always found it odd to group people by color as if they are all the same. I know I’m nothing like a lot of white people, yet I am just another “white man.” Race driven stuff is all hogwash.

If you’re down with that you ought to be doing something about the black abortion rate. It’s hard to take over a culture when you kill half of your progeny. You might also want to do something about your 70% illegitimacy rate. Losers don’t run things. Do better.

Does it matter? And you call me a racist?

A conservative needs to front up and explain EXACTLY what the heck they are……..They can’t even agree on what a ‘conservative” is. I think they should look in the mirror and and recognize the world is a changing place and they either need to get on the bus or SHTFU!!! Their way seems so nostalgic…………Just saying!

It isn’t that he pointed out the fact as a fact. And it isn’t even the implication of that fact: the “social disintegration” he refers to – for which he can find innumerable examples from history for folks to argue over.

The problem is that he’s implying — he implies it here, but he’s more specific in his writings about what he says ought to be done about it — conscious, deliberate, official state racial policy. 

Now, that’s not necessarily bigoted (He doesn’t present it AS bigotry here, or here in the terms of racial superiority or bigotry; but he implies it here, & implies it also in his columns at Wing Nut Daily, & in those few parts of his books I’ve actually read, in terms that are difficult to parse from racial superiority; plus he’s written A LOT on white racial superiority.). 

But it’s unquestionably racist – by definition, it’s racist (or racialist; I’m not entirely sure there’s any actual difference between the two, at least in the way that nativists like Buchanan employ it.). You can’t argue it’s not racist, because Buchanan couches it in specific racial terms. His point is that it’s still ‘good policy’, for it’s ability to resist the trend towards social disintegration. 

This is classic paleoconservative orthodoxy, folks. It’s what drove the John Birch Society, and the Birchers who had such influence over the 1964 Republican nomination. Watered-down memories & faded remnants of it drive the successor to the Bircher movement, the Tea Party of today. But part of the reason Buchanan is on the outs now is because he’s got a very good memory & such strongly consistent thinking. His memories & his reasons cast back to what drove the Birchers & what drove Dixiecrats; he liked them then, & he likes them now.  

This is so old-fashioned, so quaint, it’s almost charming. It’s very antiquity is quaintly attractive, in much the same way that Ron Paul’s old-fashioned ideas on money & debt & the gold standard & isolationism is quaintly attractive. It’s like being in a museum & looking at a guillotine & finding oneself unable to conjure all the complicated feelings people in Paris in the 1790s felt about the guillotine.  

Anyway, this goes back to my comments on earlier threads about how there was never any way that Buchanan was ever going to end up as a regular on FNC. Hannitty says things he doesn’t actually believe, because that’s part of his role as a fuppet. Pat Buchanan is a real live very complicated but very real person and definitely no one’s puppet; he BELIEVES the stuff he says. You can even see his face contortions as he suppresses far more blunt things that he’d like to say in this same vein. Roger Ailes could never trust Buchanan not to go off & say things he actually believes to be true, no matter how social unacceptable, nor would Buchanan ever be able to repeat talking points & memes of the day that he didn’t believe in. Listen & look, for example, at how off-handed & weak Buchanan’s support is for the Daily Caller’s pathetic children’s crusade against MMFA on behalf of the currently beleaguered News International franchises of NewsCorp.

 Ummm, i was mocking YOU. But you knew that.

Freedom of speech means Buchanan gets to say these things he believes in. There’s nothing remotely criminal or actionable in anything he says or writes on his dream of a perpetually white-dominated America. All it does is show that Buchanan is a sort of real-life King Lear, raging against storms as age whittles away at his powers.

Believe it or not, Spike doesn’t speak for all black people, and is as capable of making stupid comments as you are. 

Does it matter if you’re brown after the comments you made? Wow. Just wow. You lose.

Pablo’s in top form tonight. Ignorant and offensive. Who said anything about blacks “taking over a culture”? Where did you come up with the 50% and the 70%??

but he’s more specific in his writings about what he says ought to be done about it

Detail that, with quotes, would you?

 AMERICA IS BROWNING

 didn’t you already say that?

 why interject? your google broken?

 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. you’re slacking, philby.

You’re an idiot. I’ll ask again, what comments that I made were racist, and why would my skin color matter? I know you won’t answer the question, so I’ll add that you’re an idiot. And a troll.

…and an idiot.

 lol

He’s free to say those words, and MSNBC is free to fire him.

 I was being Sarcastic… but you knew that.

I think all that’s part of it. I also think he BELIEVES this stuff.  

Again, there used to be real conservatives in this country, not these fake market-preference-selected representations of what people think conservatives are that the major parties produce to run as candidates. What Buchanan says in this clip was very much mainstream middle America as recently as the late 1960s. Hell, George Wallace ran for president on a white supremacy platform in 1968 – in the very first presidential election that Buchanan was involved in to any pivotal degree. But within a generation after the Civil Rights Act of 1964, you just couldn’t say the things Buchanan says as directly & bluntly & honestly & openly as he says them here. There are still parts of the country where he could be elected to Congress as he is, but as he showed in 1992, post General Powell all it gets you today at best is a bit of a run in the early primaries.  

Tell you one thing I like about Pat Buchanan: he would regard what Lee Atwood accomplished with his dog whistles in substitution for outright racism as cowardly. Not for the racism – for the subterfuge. He’d blame the advertising weasels like Haldeman & Erlichman, the Mad Men of their day who found a way to disguise the reflexive racism of Richard Nixon.

Does anyone know any good white person jokes?  

Nevermind, there is none. 

 Typical Hannity – always eager to defend white racists and claim they’re victims. He did the same for Don Imus and Mark Fuhrman. Hannity’s also palled around with self-declared white nationalists like Hal Turner. Hannity is always an apologist for attacks on minorities.

But if it’s something controversial coming from a scary black rapper, Hannity gets the vapors and needs you to fetch the smelling salts.

Don’t forget his other pal, raging anti-semite Andy Martin.

Buchanan wasted his energy at MSNBC. Fox is exactly where he needs to be. Despite what the idiot lefties here think, most white conservatives have been as brainwashed as they with regard to the displacement of the majority white population of the US. They need to be made to think long and hard about these profound demographic changes and ask themselves what they really mean for their children and grandchildren. The time for being afraid of being called names is past. Our diversity, alas, is NOT our strength. It’s a cancer that will, though healthy for the Democratic Party and a hostile elite, destroy this county.

Wow, never thought I would say this but bravo Sean, Pat deserves to be called out for the bigot he is. Can’t believe there are posters on this site that defend Pat’s bigotry when even Sean Hannity acknowledges that Pat Buchanan is a BIGOT.

You’re still an idiot. If one claims the illegitimacy rate of black people is 70%, and that half of all black pregnancies are aborted, one had  better be ready to back it up with some proof. And my google works just as well as my bullshit detector. 

 If you say something the left thinks is bad they don’t just want you confronted, they want you dead. Listen up, whitey. The left has declared war on you, and they don’t take prisoners.

Uh, no, it’s his first post on this thread. You’re an idiot. 

Didn’t I already say that?

They DID. They designed the capital building in DC for example and then had their slaves build that, etc. etc. etc.

Haven’t you listened to a word they say? It’s not the WORKERS that do the work, whether they be slaves in America, current-day workers, or the virtual and actual slaves we use in China now.

Nope. They actually are a burden, a hindrance to work, what with their demands for humane treatment, fair pay, all that.

The people who do the WORK around here are the billionaires who own and invest in and build the companies whose stock they own for 45 seconds while day-trading to turn their tens of billions into hundreds of billions because, God knows, it’s hard for a guy to run all his households on just a few billion.

It bears repeating.

Sean Hannity is a perfect example of the ignorant white christian. He thinks so long as everyone is christian, everything will by hunky dory. All the while, p.s., burning more calories to defend israel than their own effing country. I’m done with them. I hate the Republican Party.

So this old white billionaire goes to pay his taxes…

(that’s all.)

I’m not much of a fan of Media Matters, I think it is usually making mountains out of molehills and a boring read, but I didn’t realize until this week how much it got under the skin of ultra right-wingers.

Good for them and keep up the good work!

 then u should be able to prove him wrong, right?

 reminds me of a certain poster who said he didn’t like olbermann. Bout a week later he was nailed posting on an olbermann fan site. lol

Quite so.

Try not to be a fool, their agenda is not one you will like when you see it for what it is.

read “‘red army’ behind OWS movement” on FOX follow the trails and you will see that communist have ALREADY taken over and are in power now. Nothing thats happenned so far is by mistake, form the massive debt and spending to just about all of the policies that appear incompent. The trail leads from the Unions, right through occupy, to the Congressional Progressive Caucus and to Obama himself. Once you understand about Saul Alinsky and other communiity organizers likeCornel West, everything comes into focus from how this tool got elected in the first place to the constant attempts to discredit any opposition I believe its already to late to vote him out. Dont take my word for it people.
The whos who of the Con Pro Cau is very evealing from Pelosi to Maxine West (the demons bhoener and cantor)  A large bloc of congress AND president Obama are in FACT socialists and ARE here to destroy everything real americans believe in. The one page that needs to be read is on my FB page

Well, we are not going to hate you, its really not your fault you fall for the lies and BS coming from the com munis ts on the left. Educate yourself (if you can) its almost too late.

Well, we are not going to hate you, its really not your fault you fall for the lies and BS coming from the com munis ts on the left. Educate yourself (if you can) its almost too late.

So this old white billionaire says everyone needs to pay their fair share of taxes….. and everyone repeated ,” Fair share. Everyone must pay their fair share.”
When the television cameras switched off , the old white billionaire proceeded to laugh and laugh because his company ,Berkshire Hathaway , owes a billion dollars in back taxes and no one cares .

So this old white billionaire says everyone needs to pay their fair share of taxes….. and everyone repeated ,” Fair share. Everyone must pay their fair share.”
When the television cameras switched off , the old white billionaire proceeded to laugh and laugh because his company ,Berkshire Hathaway , owes a billion dollars in back taxes and no one cares .

I disagree about Pat on FOX, while yes, every single person who speaks up on the right is trashed as a racist as part of thier agenda to destroy. Pat Buchanon grew up in a different time and seems to me to actually be a racist by 2012 standards. Not a KKK racist, but times were different then.

Even though you got some leftwing hate in you, there is still hope. Quit believing the bullsht they  want you to believe.

Christmas began as a pagan holiday known as Saturnalia in Ancient Rome. It was a week long celebration that basically had no rules. They were celebrating the winter solstice. 

Now you, on the other hand I believe are part of the evil left wing that spews lies and hate on purpose as part of your agenda of destruction.

To lift from Donald Trump, the archive is ‘UGE!

http://www.wnd.com/author/letters/ 

and a sample, representative of a very very large body of work:

http://www.wnd.com/2011/12/381469/ 

I think Pat did the best he could to adapt to the new world.

Pointing out facts is the single easiest way to get labeled a racist, The White House pays people to do that to anyone who exposes the wrong facts and/or opinions.

 아이구, Prebbers!

你識講中文咩?

Bola de republic-asnos endejos!

Freedom of speech does not mean he gets to say them on someone elses tv show, (im sure he didnt say it on air) if the owner of msnbc decides employing this guy makes him look bad he will be let go. The fact is, his station sucks, almost nobody watches it, and well those who do mostly want to find out who they are sposed to accuse of racism next.

Im just a white man, but Spike Lee sure sets off my racistometer.

 Reminds me of a certain moron *** Mark Koldys*** cough, cough, cough! who brays defending the truth about Fox News and wax on / off with the all important demo.

Then one day he slipped while waxing and said he doesn’t like KKKlownnity.

Just like Billdo.

It doesn’t take a wizard to predict Cain-Buchanan soon promoted to the new permanent contributors/commentators on Fox.

 Don’t think in terms of Republicans and Democrats. Wake up and hate them too.

Compare what most African-American rappers say about women (on a daily basis) with Don Imus’ “nappy headed” comment. The rappers are much more demeaning and sexist.

But I forgot, the NAACP and Al Sharpton don’t care if Black rappers demean women…that’s allowed. 

If we do nothing, here’s what the world of 100 years from now will be:

black africa
asian asia
brown s.america
brown europe
brown north america

I don’t “hate” anyone. But I’m not alright with this. Are you? You do understand this is where the trend leads if we silently acquiesce?

I don’t know I think Pat might just fit at fox. I was watching the Oriley factor tonight and he had on Lou Dobbs, and yesterday he had on Dick Morris. And I was thinking to myself, man all these guys are looking really old. Sean still looks alright I guess, but the majority of pundits on that channel are ancient. I don’t see a lot of new blood.

 But the status quo means that Jeremiah Wright wins.

 You must be a f*cking kid. You don’t understand anything do you? Buchanan and Atwood (sic) have nothing in common.

 Is the conversation about racists or black rappers demeaning women? Because they are entirely two different things.

Blacks were mindless labor. If you doubt this, go take a waltz around sub-Saharan Afreaka.

So you agree with my point that the NAACP thinks it’s OK for black rappers to make a living off demeaning women and singing sexist songs… but then a radio host deserves to get fired over making a joke in bad taste?

Hannity just conducted the job interview

If a conservative says it, Republicans whine about how they’re the victims of overly-sensitive ‘political correctness.’
But if a black musician says it, conservatives are shocked beyond words and obsess on it for weeks of cable ‘news’ programming.

 Most people in America are not very pleased with the Republican/Tea Party. Their party will sit up and take notice in November.

 I personally wont be around in 100 years. I as other Americans are just taking care of today.

Exactly right.  It’s selective outrage.

No, and you are an idiot.  

The controversy is that Pat thinks this is a bad thing.  

 That’s the spirit! (at least your honest)

This is a misleading and incorrect headline.  Hannity just asked Pat a question.  That is not “taking to task”.  The headline makes it sound like Hannity gave Buchanan a tongue lashing when the entire interview except for 1 question was sympathetic and agreement on both sides of the wrongness of MSNBC’s decision.  Again, typical LEFTIST BIAS in media. 

Race is a figment of your imagination.  In the United States the “races” have always mixed.  Get an education, learn about your history,  and maybe you won’t be such a racist.  

Race is a figment of your imagination.  In the United States the “races” have always mixed.  Get an education, learn about your history,  and maybe you won’t be such a racist.

Race is a figment of your imagination.  In the United States the “races” have always mixed.  Get an education, learn about your history,  and maybe you won’t be such a racist.

You are being sarcastic right. 

do you take a minute and read what you write?

Remember, Pat thinks of America as a great country, before any of you get confused as to why he is worried about the future of the country.  Most Obama supporters are so used to misery, high unemployment, excuses and bowing that they don’t understand why Pat is worried.  They figure, who cares, we’re no better than Indonesia or anywhere else for that matter.

Where is the hate in my post?? Nobody could answer my question………………..quit trying to distract………………i could say……just saying

that’s all you got………………..sorry:(

Pat Buchanan is a man, now out of his time…

…No longer relevant!

The country is simply becoming more racially diverse.

Deal with it or don’t deal with it…

…You aren’t going to change. You’ll have as much chance as the Native American Indian…

Absolutely right…

…Pat Buchanan is rather regressive to all the progressive change around him.

Not that he can actually do anything about it…

Put on some sun protection.

Oopsie – brain short circuit: I meant Lee Atwater.

 Of course you don’t care, you and Gloves are the Heavyweight Champions of liking your own comments with the “guest” trick.

 Pablo is just as bad, if not worse.

 No you don’t, you’re in the teabagger “like my own comments club” as well.

 Liar.

 Nut ‘n Honey…..Good one…..LOL!

Don’t agree with a word Buchanan said at the end there but shame on MSNBC, shame on Media Matters for silencing a voice & a point of view. That’s what cowards do, they take on low hanging fruit and easy targets.

Lou Dobbs was a great broadcaster and TV personality. A minority voice in a left leaning network and another easy target. Reprehensible views, yes, but talented and his points of view are better debated & debunked than silenced. How many would have felt satisfaction to watch Dobbs come on air and do a mea culpa on Obama’s birth certificate. But thanks to Media Matters, we get to only hear one voice and one point of view. Do people even realize what David Brock used to do before he found his ‘conscience’ and became a liberal?

Anyone who has to say “they don’t hate anyone” usually hates everyone.

The world is much better than 100 years ago.

you know with slavery and stuff ;-)

I hope racism will be a thing of history 100 years from now.

Oh yeah and you should see a doctor.

I would need to care to do that. I don’t. But you sure do, huh? Why?

MSNBC can hire and fire who they like. Media Matters can try to get anyone they like fired. Isn’t that the whole point of the conservative credo? Beck, Dobbs and Buchanan can spout racist nonesense all the hours there are, but no TV or radio network has the obligation to give them a platform.

Those aren’t quotes, nitwit.

He a racist. There is nothing to analyse.

Pleeease! MM just annoys right wingers by recodring and replaying their BS.

Exactly! I read them about twice years ago and found them extremely boring. It turns out they are having an effect. I don’t even understand how this is possible for them to do, to be honest.

 I didn’t say he didn’t. It’s just that on Hannity nothing happens purposelessly, and I was simply trying to decipher the implicit message of this interview.

I hope you werent referring to Pat as “new blood”

The rising Stars on FOX are Gutberg and the chick with the legs on the five.

Im doubting this too, Buchanon actually, kinda, is a racist for thing.  And herman cain is not  a journalist. You really are supposed to have some credentials at FOX.

Brown chicks are really hot.

I cant remember making these posts, my replies dont even make sense to me.

I dont remember making this post either? WTF?

Dude whats controversial about that?

Im pretty sure Hannity dislikes MSNBC, I know I sure would (oh wait, I do), so if he can take Pats side he will. And if youre referring to Nicky Minaj and th catholic thing, I dont know what he said but it was pretty tacky.

On the other hand Don Imus is an idiot and should just keep his mouth shut…

i wasn’t a racist until the food stamp pres was selected

Would we be content with a private place of business barring people of color because they ‘can’ and have no obligation to give them a place of work or patronage?

When a business model is ostensibly one that promotes tolerant vibrant debate of issues, opinions and ideas and yet it doesn’t tolerate opinions considered ‘straying’, the business model is an inferior one.

One not unlike that which is dominant in societies ruled by dictatorships and religious theocracies

My sentiments exactly.

Fox News is a Safe Place for Disgraced Racists They hired:

1. Glenn Beck after his decades of racism and firing from HLN
2. Don Imus after his anti-black firing from MSNBC
3. Mark Furman After his explicit “N” word rants
4. Lou Dobbs after his anti-hispanic rants leading to his CNN firing
5. Fox the first to try to rehabilitate Buchanan after he’s been disgraced for his skin-head type white superiority racism.

All of these men had to leave because of racists statements and actions.  All of them found a safe place on Fox.

This is why I conclude that Fox News of The World is an illegitimate, racists, arm of the GOP that pretends to be a news outlet.

Give me a freakin break. Hannity trying to take Buchanan to task on racial issues. Hannity wasn’t even a though in his father’s dick when Pat was running political parties and writing speeches. Trying to play up to a black audience Hannity. It’s too freakin late. You’re a bigot in disguise.

You’re the king of stupid and if you read my post you would see that I don’t see anyone as speaking for all people of any color.  Learn to comprehend what you read moron.

Why do so many white people get lost skiing?
It’s hard to find them in the snow.

I don’t agree with Pat Buchanan, but I always liked to hear his opinion.  As for Hannity, he should get off the tube and start doing this for a living: http://youtu.be/VQ6dvKCfDRo 

Please. It’s media’s freakin’ job to call bullshit on liars and racist on racists.

Media Matters doesn’t stifle voices: it amplifies them so we can all hear the lies. Don’t want to get whacked by Media Matters? Don’t lie your ass off in public.

The job description is the same whether you’re a rightwing or leftwing or no-wing muckraker. Bring it on.

“It ain’t braggin’ if it’s true.”

To me, Buchanan is asking why is it a good thing that whites will become a minority. Like, what’s wrong with white people? Why are people cheering that white people are *going away*, or being outnumbered by minorities. To me, that sounds like racism. People are hatin’ on the white folk…

Where is the supporting data that the country will be better off when whitey is outnumbered? 

“I don’t know a country in this day and age where there’s no ethnic majority that is not in danger of coming apart.” – Is that true? Off the top of my head, it seems to be a true statement…? 

Mexico is an ethnic majority country. African is filled with ethnic majority countries. Should we say they would be better off if Mexicans and Blacks were no longer the majority?

Every nationality, it seems, has a right to be proud, and celebrate their heritage, except for white people. So much of the upheaval happening in Europe, like France, England and Italy, is from minority groups growing and pushing out traditions and making demands of their own. The same things you see in the US, like the fight between Catholics/Christians and Muslims. Non Muslims have to respect the Muslim laws of countries while living or visiting them, but Muslims want “christian” nations or laws to be changed for Muslims.

As for the rest of the convo, “Buchanan suggested they’re afraid of “the people” who might listen to another point of view and change their minds.” Buchanan nailed it. 

Right. Lefties are just totally sold on the notion of turning Washington DC into Little Jakarta. You betcha.

Get a clue, fer crissakes! You can get them for free.

You confuse so many things in such a small space.

First, Fox News is not barred by anyone from doing anything. They bash liberals, liberals bash them back. It is a game they play and they are allowed to play it.  They moan about MM because it seems it has been effective.

Second, a journalist’s or commentator’s view is relevant to the policies and views of a media company. A person’s colour is not relevant to anything.

Third, corporations are dectatorships within the confines of those corporations and are legally allowed to be so. You take orders and do as you are told. If not, you walk. How easily they can do this depends on how much they need you, just like any dectatorship.

It may come as a shock to you but “in the mind of conservatives” – indicates that you think conservatives have 1 mind to share.  Well my mind is quite certain that the rest of your comment is known as a “socialist rant”.
“Decent” people are not particularly fond social engineering, as free will is the first to go.  

I do.

I don’t think that he said that his race is superior to others. What I got from it  was what made America what it is, was from the dominatly white european population.The core strength and culture and value system came from the white european population.Which is a fact if you look at the population from the begining til now.
While some celebrate the idea that the whites will be the minority in America in the future.Pat dosen’t think it will make the country any better because their will be less assimilation to the core American way because you have to many people who came from other countries who happen to be of another color not assimilating to the the “american way” of doing things, and weakening the core.
Its not a color thing its a culture,values thing.

I doubt you know what free will means. What you think it means is ‘freedom’. Remember we are not free to do what we like, anyway. That is the point of society. There are a lot more things you cannot do than things you can do.

In our system, you are as free as the amount of money you have. It is a mystery as to why right wing people have a problem seeing more freedom is enjoyed by the head of Goldman Sachs and his kids simply because he can buy pretty much anything. Sure, you have the freedom to say what you like and walk down the street, but that is about it.

You have as much freedom as the system allows and it is not much. You just never thought about it. As I said, there are a lot more things you cannot do than there are things you can do. And those things you can do are almost always because of or made better by government. This is a revelation only to Americans, by the way. The average person in Norway or Switzeralnd (very rich places) thinks this is obvious.

Perhaps to you that is what Buchanan is asking. But, an informed, reasonable person, an American with a love of his or her country, an appreciation of America and Americanism, would know that Buchanan’s question is based upon his firm, long-held belief in the inherent strength of American culture and in the pervasive beneficial application and influence of our Constitutional principles. Both conspire to triumph over rigid ethnic identity and national heritage. In the end, America changes, as it always has, and that change is a source of great strength. Throughout that process and in the end the essential American character endures and grows. The transformation spreads to all ethnic groups and to the nations which have enriched us.

Your view constrains Americanism, it weakens it, it crushes the American spirit. You hold the American eaglet tightly in your hand, comment on its beauty, grasp it even tighter until it is crushed, never once to enjoy how all the more beautiful it is in fulll flight, how your spirit soars and it soars.

A schmaltzy English patriotic ends with the verse:

There’ll always be an England,And England shall be
freeIf England means as much to youAs England means to me.

I think if Mr. Buchanan were speaking to you, he’d say although you don’t live in America, let American seize, embrace the opportunity to grow, to strengthen, to spread to a whole host of new Americans whose faces and accents our Founding Fathers could never have contemplated. Let America mean as much to you, as it does to me.

I do not single you out. I know there are many others who fail to see the true greatness that invites change and grows stronger by reason of that change. There are many others who belief Americanism is essentially fragile and delicate. For you, and for all, I hope you come to understand that is not the case.

Here’s what Buchanan and his ilk don’t get:

If we welcome minorities and make it easier for them to be a part of American society, they will be more likely to help the American system continue.

Alternatively, if we reject minorities or try to exclude them from the US system, the more likely that they will want some other type of government later.

The larger point is that we have to make America work for as many people as possible.  

The more stakeholders our country has, the stronger we will be.

Buchanan is always good at making people think, isn’t he? At times I agree, at times I disagree, but he stimulates thought.

O’Hannity seems to have very little to offer in that regard.

I agree.  He’s always very articulate about his positions, and he does it without the frothing zeal of younger conservatives.  I disagree with him about most things, but I’m always interested in hearing his opinion.

a very naive and completely uninformed opinion.  It doesn’t take much to see that what you are saying is exactly the opposite of the truth of what happens.  Look at Europe and read about the problems the “stakeholders” are causing.  

O’Hannity has more to offer than you do.  He doesn’t take every opportunity to belittle someone he’s communicating with (or attempting to communicate with) by making fun of their names, ridiculing them as you just did once again.

You’re predictable and you have given the image to anyone who reads anything you write of being small minded, needlessly cruel and thinking that your ability to ridicule them with your cutsy names makes you superior.  In fact, it does the exact opposite.  It indicates that without your sharp little name calling weapon, you have little to offer and bully tactics have never been a sign of intelligence.  Just sayin’

You’d think that would be their job?  Well, since the “media” is the one full of liars and racists, what to do?

Stupid comment. I for one do not relish being White man outnumbered and surrounded by negroes and mestizos. It will be even worse for my White wife and children. You ignorant kumbaya “brotherhood of man” types are ignorant of ugly racial realities. There are thousands of horror stories of what happens to White people who are at mercy of blacks. South Africa daily stories of black-on-white rape, torture, murder so grotesque, perpetrated by sadistic negroes. In USA every day there are thousands of stories which go unpublicized in jewish-controlled media. It’s so common it is not even newsworthy anymore. Sick, ugly, unnatural diversity is to blame. Integration is madness for Whites. Whites gain NOTHING by it, and are losing EVERYTHING.

Hear! Hear! A most sound analysis and a template for cotinued American strength.

The basic difference between Hannity and Buchanan is that Hannity is a zionist and Buchanan is not. Hannity promotes jewish interests, like the shabbos goy he is. Buchanan understands the huge role jews are playing in the destruction of White America– White Civilization— whereas Hannity is oblivious to it.

Are you a delegate to Tampa, or are you going to be at home eagerly waiting to learn for whom you shall be voting?

I gave you a “like” for letting some steam off. The pressure upon you and yours seems to be increasing daily. If ever again I can offer a, escape valve, I am at your command, good sir.

Care to explain why black rappers are allowed to demean women, and the NAACP, Al Sharpton, and Women’s Rights Groups don’t complain? 

Can you give me just one Black nation, wi black rulers, that is a ‘First World’ Country?

Smart lady! We need more racially aware, articulate White women like you. You “get it”. So many White women today– moreso than White men–  equate promoting the destruction of their own White race with “being nice” or “being noble”.

drivel, lies and avoidance. 

What a lovely thing to say about Sarah N. Italy. In essense, you seem to be saying she is the crispiest Cracker in the box? I wouldn’t go that far. I’m not even sure I believe she is a Cracker.

I assume you were every bit as outraged at the tarring and feathering of Helen Thomas?

That’s exactly why we need organizations like Media Matters.

Supporter of Nixon’s “enemies’ list,” racist bigot, homophobe, sweet on the Nazis, and now he wants to play the victim? That’s the way bullies are. Hit back and they wet themselves­.

lol – yes, there is nothing like trying to stop voices to raise up America!  Heck, that’s what America is built on – stopping dissenting voices.

Why is it that you are so afraid to listen to anyone who doesn’t agree with you?  Why do you want to silence them?

Why is it that people like Hannity stand up for all voices – why was he the first to console Williams?  He doesn’t agree with Williams, but he fights for Williams’ right to say what he wants and not be silenced?

You make little sense, and your praising of media matters indicates that you think Soros should be controlling what you hear and have no problem with it.  That’s sad.  

They don’t spout racist nonsense.  They state their opinion which is different than yours.  

The only ones who want to silence the opposition are the ones who are not comfortable in their beliefs and afraid someone on the other side might say something that makes sense and what to do then!

Your post – “nonesense” lol, on that we are certain, but damned if I want you silenced.  

p.s. don’t care what media matters does – do care that they get a tax exemption.  

Fox news bashes liberals?  They have a large # of liberals on their payroll and they give them voice.  

It’s rather humorous to watch you bashing a network that allows a “liberal” to sub for a so called conservative – and often.  Then you go to your 2nd line of offensive nonsense that the “liberals” they have are not your kind of liberal. lol

Too silly, as is your statement about corporations being dictatorships (you really should invest in spell check).  Corporations are controlled by their shareholders.  Shareholders are people, many people.  Perhaps you should look up what a dictatorship is.  

There’s actually a big difference between European style multiculturalism and what happens in the US.

In Europe, there is actually less “assimiliation”.   There is actually a lot of anti-immigrant sentiment in many parts of Europe, so what ends up happening is that you have lots of separate communities who don’t interact with one another….therefore it’s more fractious.  In many parts of Europe, it’s become “separate but equal” multiculturalism, which doesn’t really work.

I do think that immigrants should learn English, simply for economic reasons.  But we still have to welcome them to this country and respect who they are and where they came from.  

But you don’t do that by rounding them up and deporting them….or mandating “English only”.   You TEACH people to speak English.   Current laws for legal immigration already require you to take a citizenship test (which is administered in English).    

No pat would not be new blood. Gutberg oh jeez, and the chick with the legs, I guess i could see her with her own show in the future. One thing about cable news that is interesting. Expesh a show like Hannity. In all honestly if you are a conservative how can you watch and listen to that guy? Its the same bullcrap every night ad nausea. Its like listening to the same song over and over, no matter if you like it or not it gets old.

You are total nutbag.  Take of the hood for a minute please.  What year is this?

In this country, we have the rule of law….which is not as strong in some of the places you’re referring to.  Last I checked, however, South African whites are doing just fine and are generally much wealthier and better off than black South Africans.  

Furthermore, have you forgotten about the atrocities that blacks suffered at the hands of white people in this country??  

The point is, you have to take steps to work toward equality so that the cycle of resentment and retaliation goes away.

I’m not so naive as to believe you can get rid of all racism….but I don’t think conflict is the default setting either.

My God, Buchanan has been saying crap like that for years on TV and in his books.   Roll the tape…

If he didn’t think whites were superior, why would he be bemoaning the “death” of American culture (and citing immigrants as the cause)??

But yet conservatives like to group black people together….calling them moochers, welfare queens etc.

I disagree with Spike Lee, but only partially.  

I think anyone, regardless of race, can be a racist.

That said, the effect is different when someone in a position of power does it.

 *stinger*

I do. If the sites security is easily compromised. I’ll take it into account.

So, you’re saying that I had a terribly articulate and sound argument which you could not substantively refute, so you simply elect to be prickly and foul-tempered? I have no problem with that at all. I am pleased to see you didn’t revert to your typical foul and flithy language, however.

HAHAHA! Rising GOP border hawk sheriif just got outed!  With an illegal no less! HHAHA Typical repressed Repugs at it again!  Please, someone out AaronSchock…or Lindsey…out em all!!

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/arizona_sheriff_rocked_by_accusations_of_alleged_immigrant_ex_boyfriend.php

 *olbyloon*

I just find it hilarously pathetic that you feel a need to do it.

Obviously you care, or you wouldn’t do it.

Sign him up Roger Ailes. You can never have too many bigots on Fox.

WOW

The Klan and the Tea Party have finally merged.

Same scum in the same bucket. 

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maher-distinguishes-between-his-bush-insults-and-conservative-disrespect-towards-obama/#comment-442848682

HA! No, I am saying you, as usual, provide nothing but drivel, lies and avoided everything I said. 

Damaged Republicans go on Insanity’s show so he can wash their feet and cleanse them of all sin.

 Like chocolate and peanut butter.

Well, perhaps they are trying to RECOVER from centuries of European and Arab nations stealing/raping/killing/exploiting everything from their people, to their land, their resources, their religions, their values, their cultures and leaving post-Colonial trauma, unfair trade deals, divisive ethnic conflicts, ridiculous development conditions and disguising their foreign aid and oversees development assistance as benevolence all the while executing unprecedented cultural imperialism meant to further keep the regions in question in conflict and turmoil. Give them time. Your beloved America did not become as “great” as you think it did without blood on your hands, and certainly not overnight.

 Pat who?

I’m Black and I was not offended by what he said, actually. The man exercised his right to “freedom of speech” and it cost him his job. The way I see it, let more of these people keep talking, then they can keep getting fired and we can return to other mindless arguments until next week’s reality TV shocker makes us put all this behind us, once again. 

I think that the way Buchanan expressed his point was insensitive, but as a minority, I have come to expect that from beneficiaries of privilege. He is right that there are central “common” cores, values, ideologies etc that have contributed to the growth and development of America as a superpower, but I don’t think he should have simplified it to being a racial commonality.

In my opinion, amongst other things, what was really common to America was more of a (majority) belief in a “higher power” and a mutual interpretation of how Americans have traditionally viewed that said higher power. 

Seeing as our (majority White America and the 10% African-Americans who (involuntarily) submitted to the interpretation of the higher power is no longer common in America, let’s stop blaming minorities for their pious adherence to their own interpretation of the same higher power and rather accept and acknowledge that when we walked Judeo-Christianity out of the courthouse, the public school, the media and corporate America; we also walked our “common” cores, values, ideologies and the status as a super-power along with them regardless of race, heritage etc.

Instead of crying for the demise of White America as we knew it, let’s stop calling each other names long enough to debate what we are going to do about this monster we have created called “extreme secularism.”

Patty Buchanan is living evidence which proves the hypothesis
presented by Hunger S. Thompson; “When the going gets weird, the weird turn
pro. “

HERE HERE

You dumb libs want to actually put on your thinking caps and think about something?  Without smearing me as racist?  Give it a try, OK?

If there is a majority in America, which would you prefer it to be?

a. Black
b. White
c. Hispanic
d. Asian
e. East Indian
f.  American Indian
g. Other

This is assuming you want America to be a great nation and NOT IMPLODE.  LMFAO!  And?  There  ARE countries with the demographic you voted for — try examining THOSE countries and perhaps reconsider your answer.

SECOND question.  Am I a RACIST for asking such a thing?

What happened to objectivity is what I’m wondering.  Pat Buchanan is right.  We as a nation ARE on a suicidal journey to oblivion if this keeps up.

Bravo!!!

“There  ARE countries with the demographic you voted for” REALLY?????? What country is populated by Asian Americans????? East Indian Americans etc? What country? I won’t smear you as a racist but can I smear you for being stupid??

You seem to be somewhat unclear on the concept. (Several concepts, actually.)

Media Matters draws attention to lies. Its voice is heard and people make decisions regarding the credibility of the liars. The liars are just as free as they were the day before to continue lying — although fewer people may be listening.

The only silencing is through the mechanism of public opprobrium, which is a very organic, democratic, even market-driven tool.

With regard to George Soros, the right’s fantasy of him as an all-powerful figure able to stop conservatives in their tracks with a flick of his bushy eyebrows is simply pathetic. Please have another look at your victim card, because all the holes have been punched. You need to get another card. I know — you can try assaulting women’s rights next! That ought to be a winner.

You apparently don’t think much of freedom of speech since you’re so eager to deny Soros that right. I’ve noticed that the wingnutariat talks a good game when it comes to people’s rights, but you resent the hell out of it if someone wants to excercise them.

You bounce between hypocrisy and paranoia so much it’s hard to figure out where you are.

Except in the shadows, of course.

1) Al Sharpton leading march against offensive lyrics in rap music.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1558786/sharpton-calls-more-decency-hiphop-lyrics.jhtml

2) NAACP launches campaign against offensive portrayals of African Americans by the record and television industries, RECORDING ARTISTS and the African American community.

http://www.naacp.org/press/entry/naacp-launches–quot-stop-quot–campaign

3)  Know what you’re talking about before you post stupid comments.

Pat Buchanan is very good in discussing how cultural marxism is creeping into society. Buchanan believes cultural Marxists replaced economic Marxists in the
1960′s as the greatest threat to traditional American values.
He is also saying that the Islamic religion is going to over take the world by 2050 and he is right. He is also right about how the left is attacking the anglo-saxon and christian heritage that makes up the history and roots of the USA. Pat wants the borders defended and America protected from radical elements of Islam and groups like Mecha and Aztlan who want a Mexican take over of the western hemisphere and America. Buchanan’s central premise is that he believes the United States is a nation in decline because its culture is disintegrating.

After four decades of victim mongering and thought policing by the
media and academia, a new dominant cultural narrative has replaced the
freedom, family, and personal responsibility narrative that prevailed in
the United States for the first two hundred years of its existence. Buchanan believes Christianity is largely responsible for upholding the
traditional values above, and that as Christianity has declined, so has
the culture.
America is no longer truly a nation, which he defines as a people of a
common ancestry, culture, and language who worship the same God, revere
the same heroes, cherish the same history, celebrate the same holidays, and share the same music, poetry, art,  literature. Pat talks about “The Death of Christian America” which is basically the heritage of the culture in America.

Pat deals with The End of White America. He stats in his book some
attention-getting statistics from the New York Times: “whites would
become a minority in 2042 and would fall to 46 percent of the population
by 2050, comprising only 38 percent of U.S. population under 18.”  According to Pat Buchanan “America is being transformed into a
multiracial, multicultural, multilingual, multiethnic stew of a nation
that has no successful precedent in the history of the world.” The United States now lacks a common culture and a set of values most
folks can agree on. Our nation appears to be hopelessly divided on many
different fronts. Racially, we are more segregated today than we were
in the 1970′s. It is a society where people have no direction home and disagree on much of how they want to see society form. Thus it all leads to a cultural divide.

Our nation seems to be hopelessly divided politically as well. Liberal
Democrats seem to have no clue why those who identify with the Tea Party
are so upset. Likewise, those of the conservative persuasion cannot for the life of
them understand why so many of their fellow Americans are in favor of
illegal immigration, out-of-control government spending, gay marriage
and abortion on demand.

As a nation we are casting aside what made us great and headed towards some sort of conflict as the two sides cannot co-exist. To the sane Americans out there I highly recommend you read his latest book. To the rest of you just keep rearranging the deck chairs on
the Titanic. 

Incorrect Skippy,we damn liberals got use to good times brought during Clinton’s 2 terms which would have continued without intervention of ACTIVIST Judges of the SUPREMELY HYPOCRITICAL COURT.Then we viewed our country torn apart and bankrupted by the Village Idiot/Defecits don’t matter-DICK and their fear mongering handlers who bamboozled the public into a second term.No Skippy,we’re quite hopeful of the direction our country is headed knowing we lead the world,while we don’t have to wrap ourself up in the flag as some pseudo-patriot whose every waking moment is spent betting against fellow Americans and obstructing progress to promote a political ideology hell bent on maintaing power at ANY COST to themselves or their country.

Sure you were ash hole,you just failed to understand your thought processes  were until you channel surfed off Fixed Noise!

Understandable,a product of too many high stick head injuries when he participated in hockey.

Spittoon more accurately identifies the vileness.

Yes, you are a racist. A blatant white supremacist.

“Right to free speech” doesn’t mean “right to a high-paying commentator job”. MSNBC is a business. They decided that Buchanan’s racist rants were bad for business, so they fired him.

The problem is that you and Pat Buchanan think that whites should be supreme over all other races. You think that whites are inherently superior. And you think that America is a “white country” and thus needs to have a white majority. Why the hell should I care what skin color is the majority?

First time I heard of Hannitizing,ROFLMAO. Sean could start a cottage business,advertising slogan:”Sanitizing may be for the porcelain throne,but if you happen to lower yourself to shitpot status get Hannitized”.

Their “opinion” is racist nonsense. How is Buchanan’s constant declaration that he considers whites superior to everybody else not racist?

And what’s left over,please tighten the chin strap on your tinfoil hat.

Pat thinks of America as a great country only if white people are the majority. He thinks only white people matter, and that everybody else is inferior.

Really? What journalistic credentials do Huckabee and Palin have? What credentials did Gingrich and Santorum have when they were on the Fox payroll?

But arent there more whites on welfare than blacks?

The United States of America has a black ruler this is a “First World Country”.  Thanks for playing.

 And the reality is that the average American goes to work, comes home and watches sitcoms on TV until bedtime, then goes back to work unless it is a weekend. He/she buys everything he/she can (and then some) and doesn’t give a dam (or damn) about your philosophical ramblings.

 I am Irish-American. Wait. Scots-American. Wait. British-American. Wait. French-American.
I am a mongrel, and I bet you are too.

 But I am an “extreme secularist.”

Clinton followed Republican Congress policy to the letter.

America is a European founded civilization, and obviously if the descendants of the founders disappeared or became significantly marginalized, then it is reasonable to think that a downfall will occur to the republic. European descended Americans have gone from 85% to 63% and the country is already crumbling. I don’t understand these people who think “America’ is the same no matter who you bring in. It’s really an absurd idea. What if all the Greeks disappeared from Greece and say, Albanians poured in and took over. Would it still be Greece?

Sorry.  I changed the test question so it wouldn’t confuse dimwits like you. LMFAO.

K.  NOW can you answer the question?

So far though? FAIL.

Pssst.  You’re WHITE.  OK.  A white mongrel.  But WHITE.

In any case?

FAIL.

How so?

FAIL.

 Which race has a higher percentage of their people on welfare? Whites or another race?

That was a mindless post, yout, like Pat just can’t take whats happening around you.

 What? You never heard of Black Irish?
Well, the Irish part of me is Orange, but you are correct. People do treat me like a white man. I’m lucky that way.

So you think in terms of white nationalism? Stormfront hmm…go there and stay.

Hey.  Then you’d be in the know on what you’d prefer then, right?  a) to g), brother.  g) includes AFGHAN.

LMAO!!!  The fact that you WILL NOT ANSWER?  Just says you know what I’m talking about.

If this nation were majority BLACK?  Or Hispanic?  We’d be in freaking deep crap!  Simple as that.  And every Black and Mexican knows it.  That’s why they are HERE instead of MEXICO or AFRICA.  You ALL know what I’m talking about …

Whites have problems. They can be total asses.  But on a RELATIVE BASIS?  They’re not all that bad.  Simple as that.

NOW.

AM I A RACIST FOR ADMITTING THIS?

Yes.  But isn’t that a problem?  ;>

 Why?
 99% of the population does not feel “oppressed,” and there is no reason to ever think they (we) will be.

Not answer? Do you know what time it is?

Simple answer. NO! A change from mostly white to mostly black AND Hispanic and Asian would not change the direction or success of the United States.

Why do you think it would?

why don’t you go to England then all your problems will be solved.

“Simple answer. NO! A change from mostly white to mostly black AND Hispanic and Asian would not change the direction or success of the United States. ”

FAIL!

Didn’t answer the question.  Yes.  I’m so sorry.  English comprehension is required to take the test unfortunately.

You must choose ONE ETHNICITY to be a MAJORITY.

But again. I will assume that you are just dodging the question rather than being illiterate and obtuse. And dodging the question just proves my point.

“why don’t you go to England then all your problems will be solved.”

Ah.  But England has a WHITE majority (but even that’s shifting so bad example).  Why are you ASSUMING that I prefer a white majority?  Perhaps I want a BLACK majority?  Or Mexican?  And perhaps all my problems will REALLY be solved by moving to Nigeria?  Or Mexico?  Are YOU being RACIST and insinuating that those countries are, well, crap holes or whatever derogatory term you choose?  ;>

Digging yourself deeper into the hole?

You’re a LIBBIE right?  I thought the 99% was PISSED (OWS if I must explain).

Now you’re saying the 99% doesn’t give a crap about anything and that’s a good thing?  And that ignorance and apathy is the NORM and GOOD for our country and good for humanity?

“By the way, there are now several countries that are “more white” than we are, but I bet you think every one of them is too socialist for you.”
Socialism works JUST FINE given the right population, demographic, and culture.  A dinky hard working country like SWEDEN where it’s TOO COLD for anyone else to really want to live there is a good example.  But their population is 9M.  That’s about the population of NEW YORK CITY.  Larger countries in Europe that are socialist?  They are going BANKRUPT as we speak.  Some are ALREADY bankrupt in fact.  Do you prefer that path for OUR country?  That we be fat dumb apathetic and happy on our way to a national implosion?

The ORIGINAL American Way?  Rejected “JUST FINE” however.  They wanted more — to be number one.  To NOT go bankrupt to say the least.  Pat Buchanan is such a RELIC as you libs like to chime.

Anyhow long discussion.  No time.

It would help if you actually did *think*. 

Basic reality. If nobody feels oppressed, then nobody is oppressed.
In what way are you oppressed? 

I am appauled with the way most CONservatives are always sending these demeaning comments  to the media about minorities, when it comes to election time in order to appeal to the white biggots for the sake of votes. Thank goodness there are a significant amount of intelligent whites who refuse to take the bait. They are the reason we have our first intelligent African American President today. Left to these people it will always be the same White Male face…. again and again and again. No wonder the country is in such horrible state.

“Basic reality. If nobody feels oppressed, then nobody is oppressed.”

See.  Now I am being tested:  Are you a TOTAL dunderhead?  Or is your reaction to my super tough multiple choice question (stonewalling followed by a metaphysical/epistemological postulation) a highbrow way of communicating a capitulation but on the other hand a way to obfuscate and degenerate the discussion to a state of nihilism in the vain attempt to negate the original multiple choice question?

Hmmm …

Nah. You’re a dunderhead! ;D

It would help if you weren’t a white supremacist.

You said that America must remain a white majority to survive. That makes you a white supremacist.

I guess all those black slaves when the US was founded don’t count, right?

Also, go back a hundred years and people like you would’ve been arguing that it was a English-founded civilization, and that America was “crumbling” because of the influx of non-English immigrants from places like Germany, Italy and Ireland.

What’s “obvious” is that you’re a lunatic white supremacist.

he is using facts that we know of today to extrapolate data into the future.

i’m not, and not surprised to see you can’t actually address the points and questions from my comment, just throw out all kinds of ridiculous hyperbole. 

What on earth is this “judeo-Christian” nonsense Hannity talks about?

If the term judeo-Christian means anything, it designates the longest and most famous war in history.

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

You anti-whites are only forcing mass immigration+”assimilation”=genocide on white countries.

You know that forcing elimination on a group by any means is genocide.

You can`t censor the truth anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, 

In your anti-white opinion we are “racists”,you`re only saying that because we`re white,anti-racism is just a code word for anti-white.

You are anti-white,a pusher of global white genocide.

Hannity and all Respectable Conservatives are a white genocide cottage industry.

They compete with each other to see who can be even more anti-white than the Liberals.

At least the Klan don`t advocate global genocide of non-white groups like you anti-whites do for white people.
Mass immigration and “assimilation” forced on all white countries and ONLY white countries.Genocide is genocide,it makes no difference if it is accomplished by bullets and mustard gas,or mass immigration and social engineering.Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

You anti-whites are constantly bullying my fellow white citizens into subserivence and genocide.

We re hitting back by shoving your global white genocide advocacy in your face in public.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Hannity has been a fraud and a charlatan since his days as a local talk radio host in Atlanta. He was run out of town by an even bigger fraud, and somehow weaseled his way onto Fox. The man has never been a conservative, and probably views an American conservative as someone who supports Israel above all else..

Immigration, demographic and cultural change are by definition natural concerns for any true conservative,and this “judeo-Christian” nonsense was nothing that our founders put forward. 

I didn’t say that.  YOU SAID THAT.  Therefore YOU are the racist?

Or what?  You believe a BLACK majority is good for this country?  Perhaps you are right ;>

Fact of the matter is the demographic makeup of a country DOES matter.  And it’s time for us to GROW UP and admit what we already know.

I can see why you would feel this is the case, no one wants to be a oppressed minority.  However, I don’t think it is not appropriate to equate becoming a population minority with being victims of genocide.  

Genocide is real, it has happened too many times in the 20th century.  I involves deliberate activities with the purpose of wiping out a cultural group or race.  In past cases of genocide, the evidence has been obvious that deliberate actions were taken with the purpose of eliminating a race.  Although there have been some technical disputes about when to use the term, such as with the Armenian Genocide and Holocaust deniers.

I am not anti-white.  I would agree with anyone’s opinion that whites are victims of genocide if they can show me convincing evidence of deliberate actions to destroy the white population.  This can include records of people forcably sterilizing whites, records of forced abortions on white mothers.  Hell, I’d even settle for any official plans. 

Otherwise, it’s probably not true.

NO.  It’s not that simple.  TONE DOWN.

Only a handful of minorities want to see the destruction of white-people.  BUT.  They are out there.  And they are mean, stupid, uneducated, and dumb.The irony is?  If they destroy the white people in this country, this country just becomes a VENEZUELA melting pot (but without the OIL — free money) where the TAKERS outnumber the PROVIDERS, and where the TAKERS VOTE DEMOCRATICALLY to take away everything the PROVIDERS PROVIDE and thus destroy the country.Providers will leave the country LONG before that happens though which further tips the balance toward a TAKER dominated society thus accelerating the process.  IN FACT?  They are already leaving!This is the slippery slope we are heading down.  Where the TAKERS (those people on welfare or who make such as low wage as to not pay any taxes and contribute) are outnumbering the PROVIDERS who pay taxes and keep the country afloat while supporting the TAKERS and contributing to our education system, roads etc.  Hell, here in CA, you don’t even need to be a citizen to use our public education!  LMFAO!!  Takers vs Providers. And that’s why we are BANKRUPT.It’s not so black and white (NO PUN INTENDED! LMFAO! But too funny) obviously.  But it’s a model that boils everything down very nicely.  MEXICO is an example where there is no critical mass of PROVIDERS and where most everyone is an impoverished TAKER.  BUT? There is NOTHING TO TAKE!  No nice highway network to take from.  No really good education to take from.  Not even any good welfare to take from because so little wealth is or has been generated by the providers.  The providers in Mexico really never kicked in and developed any wealth at any time in their history.  That’s why it’s still THIRD WORLD.  Same with CUBA.  They have all the OWS, progressive, and socialist laws to force equality.  They’ve got CASTO-CARE (LMFAO!).  Sure.  But only THREE MRI machines or something in the NATION.  But for such a DINKY nation (11M)?  It’s a crap hole.  I repeat.  CRAP HOLE.  WHY?  Because dinky nations are the EASIEST to manage whether they chose a capitalistic system (Singapore) or socialist (Sweden).

Give me a break, here we go again.   Blame everyone else for the black race’s lack of achievement.  What about the thousands of years prior to the colonization by Europeans?  When they arrived, there was grass huts and no written language.  Who was to blame for that?  Aliens?     

Not enough people in white countries, so they should be flooded with immigrants?
Japan and South Korea, birth rates are the 2nd and the 3rd lowest in the world.
Nobody says this justifies flooding them with millions of non-Asians.

White countries are being flooded by non-whites. We are told to be TOLERANT. We are forced to integrate. With assimilation we see the extinction of one race only, the white race.

Its not funny, not comedy, its white genocide. Anti-racism is code for anti-white.

We pay for our own indoctrination in the USA.
Immigration, tolerance, and especially assimilation are being used against the white race.
ll this immigration and intermarriage is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries.
Anti-white is called anti-racist, but it leads to the disappearance of one race and only one race, the white race.

It is white genocide, future with fewer white people in it.

No racists, only anti-racists. Anti-racists invented the term to slander and attack white people. Anti-racism is a code word for anti-white.

How is the desire to have your own country racist?  How is that white supremacist?  There you go, name calling.  That is what anti-whites do best.

Then you will say, that you can’t be anti-white because you are white. Then I will say traitors can be white and still be anti-white.

It’s a pain dealing with anti-racists because they deny obvious realities like white genocide.

The simply thing is to just tag them as anti-white, so the awakening white masses can deal with them like a healthy immune system would.

Maybe those immigrants could move to Africa or China to make those countries stronger.  I would risk that.

But if my memory serves we well, all brown and black countries are losers.  Will losers make  Africa or China better? 

I will risk it, keep them out of white countries.

Have you ever heard of white slavery? Especially white slavery in the USA?  Extremely brutal and cruel. Longer lasting and more severe than black slavery.  Are you blaming those white slaves for what the plantation masters might have done to blacks? 
You are about a narrative of white guilt which is false and supports white genocide today.

Whoever stands up for white america is labeled a RACIST, KKK, CRACKER, WHITEBREAD, REDNECK, REDLEG,WHITE SUPREMACIST, NAZIWHOWANTSTOKILLSIXMILLIONJEWS.

As whites are slated to become minorities in a few years, they must have spokesmen or advocates which all other minorities have.  Will whites be allowed to have advocates or will they merely be race blended out of extinction with the already massive numbers of non-whites in white countries today?

The global masters are saying today that no one can speak for whites under their watch.

Help us stop white genocide.  HORUS THE AVENGER, WHITE RABBIT saves.

There’s no genocide going on!  LOL!  Catch a clue.

What is it with this shit hole of a website?  We’ve got the dumb assed black militant morons and their counter-part the white aryan nation now?

Or are you dumb lib spoofing? Hard to tell …

Everybody matters, but once people stop looking to the European descended Americans for guidance, the downfall is inevitable.

No Cal, I’m just trying to teach you American History 101. Our public school system is apparently getting worse all the time.

Why is that? Why do you consider “European descended Americans” to be innately better people than all other Americans?

What I am is anti-you. If I had my way, you would be prohibited from procreating. That’s you personally. Then again, I suspect you would have a lot of trouble getting any woman to have you in the first place.

“Judeo-Christian” is a term that people pushing a Christian theocracy use to pretend they’re not actually pushing a Christian theocracy

How is wanting this country to be one where whites are supreme not white supremacist? That’s what you want, and that makes you scum.

 To “teach” me anything, you’d have to start by telling the truth. You haven’t done that.

Anti-Whites say there should be no White Countries ✓
Anti-Whites say there should be no White Towns ✓
Anti-Whites say there should be no White Neighbourhoods ✓
Anti-Whites say there should be no White Schools✓
Anti-Whites say there should be no White Classes ✓
Anti-Whites say there should be no White Sports ✓
Anti-Whites say there should be no White Anything ✓
Anti-Whites say there should be no Whites
Anti racism is a code word for anti White.

Of COURSE an anti-White like you expresses hatred toward any group of White people having a place to call their own.  Only a sick anti-White animal would behave like this, and you are obviously one of ‘em.

I’m sure you wouldn’t complain that since Japan is over 90% Japanese, Japan now needs to solve a “race problem” by flooding Japan with tens of millions of non-Japanese, and telling the Japanese they’re “rayciss” if they don’t interbreed and assimilate with the non-Japanese.

Or maybe you would call Japanese “rayciss” if they didn’t agree to their own genocide?

No, I’m thinking a nasty anti-White like you reserves your hatred for ALL White countries and ONLY White countries … and intends to guilt-wash only White children with your insane progress toward White Genocide.

You say you are “anti-racist”, but what you are is anti-White.

“anti-raycissm” is just a code word for anti-WHITE.

I believe that who the hell cares what skin color is the majority? It doesn’t matter.

“I believe that who the hell cares what skin color is the majority? It doesn’t matter.”

So you are saying that if Mexicans and Blacks make up 99% of AMERICA, who the hell cares?  YES OR NO.

Libbie SPOOFER.  LMFAO!!!

The irony is the even WITH libbies spoofing psycho rednecks? The libby idiots STILL outnumber them.

I disagree.

‘Judeo-Christian’ is a term that people pushing a Judeo theocracy use to pretend they’re not actually pushing a Judeo theocracy.

For Jews the notion of a ‘Judeo-theocracy’ is perfectly consistent – Levictus 25:47 “And ye (the Jews) shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever” No smoke and magic mirrors here.

For Christians the term ‘Christian theocracy’ is an oxymoron – John 18:36 “My kingdom is not of this world”.

Perhaps he believes as I do that all race/cultures have a right to exist, govern themselves, and control their own self determination … including … gasp … white people!  My opinion wouldn’t be controversial at all if I excluded white people.  All non-whites have that right and I believe they should.  On the other hand, whites have been indoctrinated to believe that all communities with strong white majorities have a moral obligation to “diversify”.

I think it’s interesting that people of european descent who want the right to live in a place where people of european descent are allowed to control their own political and economic destiny are called “white supremacists”.  Meanwhile, people of most other races/cultures can take that right for granted without being called “supremacists” by anyone.  That seems really racist to me.

I think of diversity as an asset, not a liability…and not an “obligation”.

People can and should be allowed to choose where they live, but I think countries benefit from social, racial, and economic diversity.

Look at the world’s most wealthy countries:  most of them are pluralistic societies that have actively worked to combat discrimination.

This is no longer a “white country”. We are not allowed to even defend ourselves much less allowed to say anything about how the this country should be run. Whites in no sense of the word rule here. When whites pass a law that the left, liberals, jews, hispanics, blacks, asians, or whoever doesn’t like they take it to court and the lawyers in black robes overturns the law.
This country does not have a media, it has a propaganda machine. 

M_B_W
Diversity is an asset for white societies?  Detroit is a good example.  In 1940, it was 90% white and perhaps the most prosperous and productive industrial city in the world.  Today it lies in ruins as an 82% black welfare slum with record setting murder rates and a public school board overseen over by an illiterate president who openly plays with his penis during school board meetings.

Total lie. He said his frustrations were justified but his actions were deplorable.

Yes.  Very true.  REVERSE-DISCRIMINATION is the norm.  But reverse discrimination IS discrimination in and of itself.

I didn’t pick up on the reason(s) for Frankie’s angry tone and it may have been poorly directed, but his point about Japan getting a pass for protecting their country’s ethnic nationality seems reasonable to me.  Is that something you disagree with?

there are more whites than blacks so you’re strawman argument is null and void.

 there are more whites than blacks period, so the numbers would be higher if they were on any welfare. not all us white folks are rich.

White countries are being flooded by non-whites. We are told to be TOLERANT. We are forced to integrate. With assimilation we see the extinction of one race only, the white race.

Its not funny, not comedy, its white genocide
How is this not white genocide?
How are people who want to survive as white people supremacist?
Would you deny white people the right of self-determination as a group so they might maintain their genetic integrity? How would a negative response not be anti-white?

Is your world safer if you can label things incorrectly and condemn them? That is low level intelligence and low level morality.

So you don’t want to discuss the obvious reality of white genocide which we can see all around us today? That is the most important topic for the 21st century.

No one is an innocent bystanders. Great atrocities have occurred throughout history because so many have claimed innocence and ignored human suffering.

Pat Buchanan is bigotted in the way he undermines the cultures of foreign races and praises the old dogmatic and mean spirited Christian West. That said…The ever apace hoard of dark races is destroying any semblance of order in the West, and a potential cultural Aryan rebirth is being nullified by the sheer numbers of the low-quality feeble minds and brutes being conceived by both dark races and our Western lot.
Christians DENY biology, Jews pervert it, and the rest follow like drones the Marxist, democratic, cosmopolitican construct while bitching incessantly over what’s ‘moral’ or deemed acceptable by the degenerate social-order to talk about.
Cheers to the death of Marxism, Christianity and democracy; and the rebirth of pagan ideals in the New Age. A return to earth/nature worship, bartering, autonomous communities and farming, and the aristocratic principal. A return of race for what it is, not what it’s become – “racism”.

For Christians the term ‘Christian theocracy’ is an oxymoron – John 18:36 “My kingdom is not of this world”.

And yet, many Christians try to create God’s kindom on Earth anyway. Believing in Christ doesn’t make it impossible to be a hypocrite. Or to be just flat-out ignorant of what the Bible actually says, which many Christians are.

What Buchanan always fails to account for is that America was built on slave labor.

Why is that even a relevant question? Even if you’re so convinced that blacks are inferior people…it’s not blacks who could potentially become the majority in the US in the relatively near future. It’s Hispanics. Oh, but they all have darker skin, so in your eyes that means they’re the same, right?

The comedy is that you think there’s such a thing as “white genocide”.

There are no innocent bystanders to genocide
White countries are being flooded by non-whites. We are told to be TOLERANT. We are forced to integrate. With assimilation we see the extinction of one race only, the white race.

Its not funny, not comedy, its white genocide. Anti-racism is code for anti-white.
How is this not genocide? You can laugh but realities bit you in the ass.

Exactly! They have, as St. John Chrysostom said, been ‘Judified’. Calling yourself a Christian doesn’t necessarily make you one. Look at that flaming heretic Luther for example.

“I think it’s pretty obvious that Pat Buchanan thinks his race is superior to all other races in America. His position is that if his race becomes the minority, America would be worse off.”

It is; and It will be. Without Whites to maintain the civil societies the mud races have taken over, you will see Europe, Austalia and North America fall to ruin. Exactly as we’ve seen happen over the last two decades in South Africa. If you don’t know what I mean research Haiti, and how Whites have tried and tried to leave those people a decent place to live, but they always let what what We created  for them fall to waste when we leave them to maintain by their own devices.

It’s time to wake up Whites! 

I understand the point you are trying to make, but I have to disagree with you Ramay.  You are saying the Caucasian population, throughout the world, are the responsible and well meaning caretakers that attempt to steer individual countries filled with non-Caucasians towards economic prosperity, decency, and civility. 

In my opinion, your beliefs echo those expressed by Pat Buchanan in his interview.  With the distinction that you are able to honestly express them through the anonymity of the internet.  If I understand correctly, you are making the prediction that the world would “fall” if not for the Caucasian people.  Since you have not mentioned a particular subset of that race, I’m guessing you’re tying to say that Caucasians are genetically superior.  This is probably based on the commonly held belief that “everything was invented by white people”, and anecdotal evidence gathered from watching TV coverage of starving people and wars in third world countries.
However, I have to disagree with both Pat and your prediction.  I think many non-White countries have made investments in their societies in the late-20th century.  Their motivation has usually been to improve the lives of their citizens through reduced illiteracy rates, a technically educated workforce, and economic growth.  These countries have made these changes while not being colonized by, as you put it, “Whites”.  I think you would learn more about the world if you stopped seeing non-Caucasians as either enemies or dependents, and started seeing them as other human beings.  

Actually, I did not say anything of the sort, and if you gathered that I apologize. I never mentioned Us being “well-meaning”  only meaning to imply that We are the most responsible, able and willing to work hard to make good from bad,and maintain and improve our lot, regardless of “subset”. 

Remember you brought up superiority. If I was superior in every way to non-whites I would be able to bathe and drink from the Ganges with no ill effect as the asians who subsist on it’s putrid banks do; I could not, I would most probable contract a parasite and die. (not very superior) I merely mention the obvious: that We are much more inclined to maintain and foster a civil society. It is clear that when Whites are forced from their neighborhoods and jobs (i.e. genocide) the settlements left behind fall to ruin(see Detroit, Mich.).

Regarding the “advancements” the third-worlders have brought to themselves in the last 50 years, you’re telling me all of the sudden evolution has sped up for these people and they have just “seen the light”. No. Whites brought this to them.

Have a good night.

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

You silly anti-Whites are crazy. Why do you think the GeNOcide of my lovely race is something to be applauded. It is very cool to be White. Non-Whites consistantly want to live in our countries and tell us how they hate us and how we are not perfect. Ha! Look at the hell hole countries they create. Hatred of Whites does not justify White GeNOcide.

It’s pathetic, yet amusing, that you actually believe that. Tolerating the existence of non-whites somehow is white genocide. Please.

Its not about tolerance, its about massive immigration. Its a big world but only white countries are targeted.
White countries are being flooded by non-whites. We are told to be
TOLERANT. We are forced to integrate. With assimilation we see the
extinction of one race only, the white race.
Its not funny, not comedy, its white genocide

How is this not white genocide?

Because the presence of brown people has no affect whatsoever on the existence of white peope. Idiot.

Which is hardly an improvement. Breivik’s “frustrations” were totally unjustified.

What fact is Patty Buchanan pointing out? He claims that every country that lacks an ethnic majority is falling apart. I think future superpower Brazil would be surprised to hear that.

White countries are being flooded by non-whites. We are told to be
TOLERANT. We are forced to integrate. With assimilation we see the
extinction of one race only, the white race.
Its not funny, not? comedy, its white genocide
How is this not white genocide? You are approving of white genocide.

How is this not white genocide? Because, again, the presence of brown people does not affect in any way the existence of white people.

That’s ignorant. Massive immigration of non-whites drastically changes the combined genetics of any white nation. With tolerance, integration and assimilation the end result is the extinction of the white race.

The only reason you would dispute this is because you are anti-white and support the ongoing program of white genocide.

What pleasures you so much about the idea that white people should be turned brown or black without blond, red, brown hair color or blue, grey or green eye colors?

Genocide of non-whites is exactly what the Klan advocates.

Pat isn’t simply pointing out fact, he is summizing that the country will fall apart unless it retains a white majority.  That is rediculous and the argument of a racist.