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Fox News’ Greg Gutfeld Tells NY Times Paul Krugman To ‘Go To Hell’ Over 9/11 Column

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There has been quite a reaction to Paul Krugman’s instantly infamous 9/11 blog post entitled “The Year’s of Shame.” Donald Rumsfeld claimed it caused him to cancel his New York Times subscription, Fox News has been all over it like a hawk, and, even in a column entitled “Forgive Paul Krugman For Calling 9/11 ‘An Occasion For Shame,’” our own Tommy Christopher wrote that the post featured “several stupid, wrong things in that small space.” On The Five yesterday though, Greg Gutfeld took it upon himself to sum up what he believed was the nation’s collective response: “Go to hell, Paul Krugman, you bearded bitter buffoon.”

While not using such harsh terms, the rest of the panel seemed to agree. Of course, all of them except Bob Beckel don’t like Krugman on a good day, but it was notable seeing Dana Perino clearly taking the post personally as it featured large swipes at her former boss, George W. Bush. The conversation soon turned to whether or not the New York Times even reads Krugman’s stuff before letting it run considering both the content as well as some nasty typos.

After this, The Five‘s hosts changed gears and got equally passionate about the question of whether airplane bathrooms are even big enough for the “mile high club” which, I suppose, is a pretty good distillation of the show’s appeal.

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  • Anonymous

    those people in utah should have shoved krugman under that burning car after they pulled the rider out…

  • Dummy123

    Gutfeld is a smart articulate compassionate midget. I love that guy and never miss his shows.
    Bill Maher is a angry bitter midget. I cancelled HBO because of him.

  • Anonymous

    Greg Gutfeld Tells Paul Krugman To ‘Go To Hell’ Over 9/11 ‘Occasion For Shame’ Column

    THIS JUST IN  !!  Rep. Maxine Waters outraged at this vile Tea Party rhetoric !

  • Darladoon

    snoooooooooooze

  • Bigredmed

    Sending Krugman to hell?  Come on Greg, what has Satan done to you?  

  • Anonymous

    I thought most Liberals agree with Krugman in regards to 9/11?

  • Anonymous

    I thought most Liberals agree with Krugman in regards to 9/11?

  • Steve P.

    You speak for allot of us Greg, Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Amazing how we have heroes like the people who pulled the motorcyclist out and complete losers like Krugman!!
    I can picture him being the driver of the BMW who refused to lend the others a hand..jerk!!

  • Anonymous

    Obama is good friends with Krugman and repsects his opinion. A huge majority of Obama defenders feel the same way.

  • Anonymous

    that’s the brightest statement you’ve ever made darla

  • Darladoon

    “allot”  =  less than 20% of the population

    most americans agree with krugman; it’s just that people are upset that krugman
    wrote the op-ed on 9.11.  if he wrote it in april, nobody would care.  but his
    basic points would still stand.  

     

  • Dummy123

    Is there any story or topic on the show that Bob Beckel can’t shoehorn in a cocaine reference into?
    We get it Bob you did a LOT of blow in the last century.

  • Moosenuts99

    Yeah,’don’t invite Krugman on to defend his points.

    Fox LOVES their straw men

  • Michelle

    Post your proof that most American’s agree with him, unless you are a bald face liberal liar. 

  • Anonymous

    Yay we don’t agree with someone so lets kill them! Love the right wing mindset…..

  • Darladoon

    yeah, what a “loser” for defending the victims of bush’s ridiculously short-sighted, ignorant
    reaction to 9.11, which cost the lives of 1 million people, millions more injured, 3 million
    displaced;  which cost our worldwide credibility; which bankrupt the treasury; which 
    ransacked the public sector for private gain; and which polarized the country forever.  

  • Anonymous

    Because they blindly follow their leaders instead of thinking for themselves…

  • Anonymous

    yeah a guy that doesn’t allow comments on his inflammatory blog post is ready to defend it…

    /facepalm

  • Anonymous

    He’s had two chances so far.

  • Darladoon

    i was dumbing it down so you would respond

  • Michelle

    DITTO, Greg!

  • Tampa Bay Raise

    Greg(the lisper) Gutfeld is the conscience of America…..right.

  • Jmpwawoo

    Gutfield knows buffoons, gotta give him that . Everytime he looks in a mirror he sees one.

  • Farnsworth

    It’s so great to see people bonding across the political spectrum in pointless rage at someone for stating the blindingly obvious. The wussification of America continues unabated

  • Darladoon

    most americans, not most liberals

    even conservatives agree with krugman.  they just don’t like the fact
    that he wrote it on THE HOLIEST DAY EVER.  

  • Darladoon

    trust me, michelle, these comments of his can’t be refuted, they are so obvious:

    “Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?
    Actually, I don’t think it’s me, and it’s not really that odd.What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. The atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.A lot of other people behaved badly. How many of our professional pundits — people who should have understood very well what was happening — took the easy way out, turning a blind eye to the corruption and lending their support to the hijacking of the atrocity?The memory of 9/11 has been irrevocably poisoned; it has become an occasion for shame. And in its heart, the nation knows it.”

  • Darladoon

    you gotta ask yourself, michelle, what “good” came out of that day?

    the answer is simple

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PRFNURP4H43DGLWZ3YWKKZJU5U Papa Lazarou

    Krugman’s column should not be a surprise to anyone.  It dovetails nicely with the ‘America’s chickens have come home to roost’ / ‘goddamn America’ crowd that elected and still support Obama.

  • Anonymous

    awww did we hurt your feel goods?

  • VV

    I am sure HBO is broken hearted… 

  • Jmpwawoo

    Like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, may he enjoy his rest in hell, John Hagee, and many others of that particular bent?

  • Anonymous

    Put it this way, would you rather have our elected leaders then targeting, dispersing and rendering dysfunctional Al-Qaeda and its affiliates and then gone on to a crusade to get us off of Saudi oil by whatever means necessary?

    Or would you rather the lying, misleading, outing of CIA agents and the ensuing war, torture, atrocities, gitmo, the trampling over our rights, our losing of our moral standing in the world that all ensued have happened?

    If you’ve chosen the former, then you agree with Krugman but didn’t come to terms with putting your feelings of shame in those words exactly. If you’ve chosen the later, then you’re the very element that Paul Krugman identifies as being the very source for the rest of us feeling ashamed of this country’s conduct in the 7 years pursuant to 9/11

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    as opposed to ditto heads and the Black Robe Regiment? 

  • Anonymous

    Not at all just proves the point that the right wing mind is ill….

  • RACE BAITING@6 RESIST WE MUCH!

    OOPS ! Obama’s a Popular Target — in this Bar’s Urinal….
    http://floydreports.com/video-obamas-a-popular-target-in-this-bars-urinal/

  • Anonymous

    a million people…..just making shit up again darla

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I wouldn’t be too sure. Afghan and Iraqi deaths have been astronomical.

  • Michelle

    Back up your claim that MOST American’s agree with him or admit you are a liar.

  • Anonymous

    That is frickin hilarious.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, Greg, that POS lib is already there!

  • Anonymous

    And you too.

  • Anonymous

    Why invite him on the show? He wouldn’t even allow comments on his article, you honestly think he’d defend those remarks in person? Please.

  • Anonymous

    When the coward wouldn’t even allow people to respond to his reckless column?

    Try again.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, it was Krugman– the former paid advisor to Enron- what did ya expect?

  • Anonymous

    Under Obama.

  • Anonymous

    “trust me, michelle, these comments of his can’t be refuted, they are so obvious:”

    Darla they are only obvious to the voices in your head.

  • Anonymous

    and that number would be?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    If Krugman’s words don’t sit well with you go and watch the documentary on Pat Tillman.

  • Anonymous

    No Darla, MOST Americans don’t think that.  It only proves just how sick Krugman is to post it on 9/11 and then be too much of a puss to take comments on it. If MOST Americans agreed with him then why didn’t he bask in the praise he was sure to get? He knew he was going to get hammered and took the chicken way out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    which sort of explains your handle there doesn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    Of course you mean the same “ridiculously short-sighted ignorant” reaction that most of the Dems supported too? That one? The one they were for before they were against? The one where they voted to go to war? I am sure you mean that one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robin-Jones/100002895023497 Robin Jones

    Pitting newscasters against each other. What will unelected offiCIAls think of next?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    Just because you can picture it then I guess by your logic it’s true?  Truthy perhaps….maybe just a bit Truthish…

  • Anonymous

    You have the stats confused, 20% of the population is liberal, the other 80% are normal.

  • Anonymous

    Or call them terrorists, or tell them to go to hell, or tell your supporters to “take them out,” or tell a crowd to bring guns instead of knives to the fight and to punish your enemies. Love the left wing mindset…..of elected Government officials.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

      allot

    it’s also not a word but who’s counting these days?!

  • Anonymous

    You think those comments can’t be refuted because you are dain bramaged. Seriously, parts of your brain simply don’t operate correctly, it’s obvious.

  • Anonymous

    You’re a thruther aren’t ya?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    Interesting to see all the “likes” to your violent vision of murdering somebody for saying something you don’t like or agree with. 

  • Dflojak

    Why waste your breath on darlaloon, she just hates america and we can’t convince her otherwise. Soon she’ll be moving to China to upgrade her job at the loom. Darla, why so hateful and full of lies, we are all starting to feel sorry for you, is that what you want. Pity. You and Pauly K go have yourselves a picnic with the majority of american’s that feel the same, but don’t rent too big a venue, maybe your kitchen will fit all those that agree. You still are a douchebag, and I love consistency.

  • Yes I’m Right

    Krugman routinely turns down invitations from FNC to appear on the channel.

  • Dflojak

    Later works for me. You studying at the Ed Schultz school of fair and balanced reporting, there dogsperm? By the way, if you’re ashamed I understand, I’m ashamed of his majesty in the royal palace too, but he’ll be gone soon. Thank god.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting that I have never seen you post those comments to a few of your fellow Liberals on here calling for the death of right-wingers on occassion. So according to you, if a poster calls for the death of a member of the other side then by default the entire party of the poster has an ill mind? Either you support the comments from both sides or you don’t support them and are calling all Americans from both political parties ill minded. Which one is it? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    Aside from pointing out what you perceive to be as brain damage, how did you in any way refute what Darla said?  You didn’t. You just made an insulting remark that you can snicker to later on, without, of course, any substantive or cogent point.  Touche!  You win again!

  • Anonymous

    So what is your point, Jon? Stirring a can of worms? to what agenda?

    Gutfeld said : “(quoting Krugman) ’I'm not going to allow comments on the post for obvious reasons.’ That obvious reason: He’s a coward. I mean, why else would you ban responses? He’s like a 10-year-old boy crank-calling all of us, only to hang up before he hears a response, fearing his own shame for his own wickedness.”

    That is your story… A NY Times blogger/writer cutting off responses to his outrageous comment. Instead you aim to blast away at others who disagree with your opinion. 

    You are no better than Krugman.

  • Anonymous

    maxine is that you?

  • Jhon

    I agree with Krugman.  These people are political terrorist…Bush, Chenney, Rumsfeld etc. They highjacked the terms Patriotic and nationalism by adding ANTI if you disagree with their position.  They are the proud creators of the New McCartysm.  Our country is not the same as a result.  Everything has changed.  Our country is now the Divided States of America.  Bin laden was killed a few months ago but sadly it seems he succeed dividing our nation.  We changed our constitution for the patriot act.  Our country tortures prisoners just like nazis did.  We are completely divided instead of united and other countries are laughing at us.  All those that wished the USA would end as the Roman Empire, destroyed from within, are celebrating.  Ignorants are easily seduced by politicians using terms such as liberal, right wing, socialist and anti American as if dissent or an oppposing view were crimes.  They use this terms to stigmatize those that provides a different viewpoint particularly when they cannot refute an idea intelligently.  In the mean time, hate for immigrants and people of color and welfare recepients increases while corporations get richer by doing business in China.  Yes, that same China that owns our debth and that takes more of our jobs and corporations away.  Pretty soon we will not need to hope immigrants stop crossing our borders. They will soon need go find greener pastures elsewhere cause what we will have left is our hate, our division and poverty.  Finally, when we ran out of hateful ways to justify the failure of politicians and our own failure for keeping them in office who are we going to blame for the demise our nation…hopefully by then our country will not be that banana republic that we so deeply despise!  Jhon!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mitchell.s.gilbert Mitchell S. Gilbert

    The problem with Krugman’s harsh words were that they clearly put him in the crosshairs of the political right that prefers to respond to controversies with character assassination.   Why respond to the content of the message when its so much easier to just shoot the messenger.     “Go to hell, Paul Krugman, you bearded bitter buffoon,” is a classic, textbook conservative retort.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    Calling for the death of any American for something they said is un-American. Unless it’s a Kardashian or a Snookie.  I mean…enough is enough.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    What the hell does Pat Tillman’s fratricide death have anything to do with Krugman’s editiorial commentary?  Sometimes you liberal and your disjointed thinking surprises even me?

  • Anonymous

    Man, that Gutfeld can bring the funny! He’s hilarious

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    When a liberal says “trust me”, you know it’s time to seek the closest air raid shelter.  The last time a liberal said trust me, I think it was November 4, 2008 and we all know how that turned out, hmm?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Moosenuts – news flash for you pal.  Krugman closed off his on-line editorial to comments as a way of avoiding the need to defend himself, so what the hell makes you think he’d go on national TV in an attempt to?  Sometimes you guys…………..

  • Anonymous

    depression is real and people like Krugman should get help for it.  The NY Times is the real problem, as the guy is clearly spiraling and instead of therapy, his descent is being ignored.  Shame on the NY TImes and shame on Krugman’s post. 

  • Anonymous

    Mediate’s continuing obsession with the comedy-challenged and intellectually empty Gutfeld, who has made a typical knuckledragger response to discourse.  A bit like inviting a professional wrestler to a debate. 

  • Michelle

    I saw a recent study that around 20% of American’s also suffer from mental illness.  Coincidence?  Me thinks no.

  • Happy to be gone

    O.K. What seems evident to me that America is extremely divided. 911? A Black president? Health care for all? Less tax on the rich? Less than 1% of the country owning most of the wealth? Flags? Fags? The revolution is coming and there will be blood in the streets. From an expat in Thailand. Love it or leave it? I did.

  • MO

    I signed up for HBO to watch Bill Maher.

  • Bob Bitchen

    Thank God? Do you think God wants Obama out of the White House? Do you think God is Great is a cool thing to say while crashing into buildings? Some of you guys think God hates fags too. By the way, whats so bad about dog sperm? I like dogs. People loke you will take to the streets in 2012 and blood will flow.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s your guy “twoody” (ROFLMAO)  who gets his “news” updates from Jon Stewart ans SNL.
    These people think Hollywood movies are real life and that everything in a Michael Moore film is fact.
    They are for real and some of them VOTE!!!
    Thus, we have been saddled with the Socialist, Kenyan Black Panther for going on three years now.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    “Sometimes you liberal and your disjointed thinking surprises even me?” 

    Wow.  Talk about walking into a punch! 
    In response to your disjointed response to my comment…Tillman’s death itself has nothing to do with Krugman’s commentary but the cover up of the facts and the subsequent use of his name to further the political aims of the Bush administration has EVERYTHING to do with what Krugman is talking about.  If you don’t think so then ask Pat Tillman’s family and his comrades in arms.  Wow…talk about dim.  You are the poster child for the new know nothings.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    I see your truther and raise you one birther.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    best you got?

  • Anonymous

    Worked for Jesse Ventura in lib land Minnesota, ha!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah unlike Bushitller etc etc etc…

  • Anonymous

    I was going to cancel HBO because I rarely watch it, but I kept it because of Bill Maher.  Can’t wait until the new season starts this Friday……I’m sure he’ll have plenty of things to say about the teabaggin’ party, especially with their applause to Rick Parry’s death penalty record, and especially with their applause last night at the debate over Ron Paul wanting that 30 year old without health insurance to die!

  • Anonymous

    I knew it.

  • Anonymous

    excellent retort maxine…

  • Anonymous

    “instead of thinking for themselves”…….This is the kind of rhetoric and, in fact, is almost verbatim what people like rush pig limbaugh and sean the insane hannity use……..so, JBeast27, you are blindly following your own “leaders” instead of thinking for yourself.

  • Anonymous

    gutfeld is an asswipe.

  • Anonymous

    well, what number is acceptable to you?  what number of civilian casualties is acceptable to you for this amorphous war on terror?

    how many did we lose on that day and the days following?  how many of our soldiers have died or come back maimed in the years since 9/11?  how many children have we killed in other countries? 

    how much $$ has it cost our nation?  how much better/safer are we?  where are they?  these terrorists?  why haven’t we gone after connections in Saudi Arabia?  how many operatives of alQeda were in Iraq BEFORE we invaded?

    how many lies were we told by Bush officials re Pat Tillman? Rendition? Torture? Yellow cake? 

    and why is this acceptable to you when it is bankrupting our coffers and American soul?

  • Anonymous

    That show “Red Eye” that he hosts is one of the most stupid programs I have ever seen.  Every time I have flipped it on, Gutfeld and his guests are laughing hysterically over something that is absolutely not funny. 

    Yep, Gutfeld knows buffoons all right when he thinks his show is “funny.”  What a dip he is.

  • Anonymous

    want us to take a vote? lol

  • Darladoon

    yes, which the democrats WENT ALONG WITH….. but not which democrats
    actually, you know, PROPOSED!  kind of a big difference……

    and the reason they changed their minds was OBVIOUS. 

  • Anonymous

    probably caused your toilet to overflow and your fridge to be empty and the laundry piling up also.

  • Bob

    ah, Dana Perino – the White House Press Secretary who admitted she was too stupid to know what the Cuban Missile Crisis was.

  • Darladoon

    the ONLY reason people are upset is because he chose 9.11 to write it, not
    because what he said isn’t true….

  • Darladoon

    nope

  • CarmanK

    Krugman said what he had to say on 9/11 because of all the hypocrisy that goes on year round. The republicans refused to fund health care services for the survivors of 9/11. They wrap themselves in the flag. “Patriotism is the last refuge for a scoundrel”-Samuel Johnson. The bombing of Pearl Harbor brought out the best in our country. It raised our collective courage and will to face the enemy. 9/11 was a tragic day, it wouded the soul of this nation, but BUSH/CHENEY used it, no exploited our love of country, told us to go shopping and then took us to war in Iraq and caused the death of thousands including american soldiers. This act of revenge and lust for oil, squandered billions. They LIED AND THEN THEY TORTURED and disgraced our nation. Krugman said what had to be said. It doesn’t take away from the sacrifices of those who died seeking justice or undermine the deaths and sacrifices, It points out the UTTER DISGRACEFU behavior of our political leaders who instead of rising to the the occasion, exploited our love of country and caused far more damage to our country, than binLaden’s bombs could ever have.

  • Darladoon

    republicans make people ill

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    Thanks for making my point. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

    what rights of your’s have been trampled over?…  did homeland security confiscate your computer?…  did they throw your ass into gitmo?…  i heard this all thru the bush administration…  yet i’m hard pressed to come up with any rights of mine that have been trampled over…  i still smoke weed and frequent strip joints with impunity…  i can watch mnf on my flat screen…  i can shoot hogs…  i can overpay for floor seats at metallica…  life’s not too shabby in the greatest state of the greatest country on the planet…  no shame here…

    conversely, it’s obama who’s launched an all out assault on the second amendment with his fast & furious scheme…     

  • Anonymous

    No Darla, that’s not the only reason. Where do you get all your information? HuffPo? Moveon.org? Cracker Jack boxes? No matter, they are all the same. Feel free to continue in your ignorance.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

    kenny f***ing powers is the only reason to watch hbo…

  • Bob

    Some Democrats did – but folks like Paul Wellstone and Robert Byrd were proven right for opposing it.

  • Bob

    Do you have to get smarm training to be be a FOX News dork? I’ve never seen a network more full of cheesy sneering and bad acting.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

     perhaps “two and a half men” is more your speed…

  • TruDat

    At least she admits it, the lefties just lie through their rotting teeth.

  • Anonymous

    You’re right. I didn’t realize Rush and Sean, both of whom I can’t stand, had coined and trademarked that phrase. I need to do my homework.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

     in reply to rjudge…  (stupid mediaite)…

  • Anonymous

    Professor and Nobel Prize recipient Krugman doesn’t control the comments section of his articles. That’s generally the case for most newspapers. Including at the Moonie Times and the Murdoch Street Journal.

  • J V

    LOL, HEY LOSER LIBERAL? WHERE’D YOU GET YOUR FACTS ROM ABOUT THE PEOPLE KILLED IN THE WAR YOUR DEM SENATORS VOTED FOR, FROM KEITH OLBERMANN?

  • J V

    Is it ever any different with this liberal loon?

  • Michelle

    Cite your source Darla Loon or admit you made it up.

  • J V

    Went along with it liberal? You mean like they were FORCED to vote for it? Or was it they had no mind of their own (MORE LIKELY) and it just seemed like a smart POLITICAL move at th time?

    They turned yellow when their own base started screeching and desperately looked for a way to “TAKE BACK” their votes.

    All Dems are gutless and pathetic. That’s why they will be decimated in next years elections.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

    try bravo or logo…

  • Pistot22

    Fox is just vile in so many ways.

  • Anonymous

    quit with the bull Darla.  Krugman was out of line and you’re following suit.  We already know you’re one brick short of a load so we give you a pass, don’t keep piling on the b.s. pile cause pretty soon you’ll be buried in the mire forever.  

    Rather than your stupid blathering, I’m more interested in the names of the idiots who agree with you.  Didn’t realize we seem to have a class of classless jerks residing in here.  

  • Anonymous

    thanks for being a pussy, maxine.

  • Anonymous

    lol

  • Anonymous

    Huh?  I’m not saying that at all.

    I’m saying that when conservatives accuse liberals of not “thinking for themselves,” they don’t realize that they are not thinking for their ownselves because they are repeating what their own “leaders” say.  When conservatives accuse liberals of not thinking for themselves so all they can do is call names, these conservatives are not thinking for themselves and are repeating what their “leaders” say.

    Conservatives who make such accusations are repeating talking points.  I don’t know how many times I can point out situations where conservatives say that all liberals can do is “call names,” but in the same paragraph, they start calling liberals all sorts of names.  But they make these baseless accusations because their leaders say the same thing.

    I’ll never forget an exchange I had on a conservative blog a few years ago.  I did not use any foul language; I did not call anyone a single name; yet these right wingers called stupid; they called me an idiot; they accused me of living in my parents’ basement eating Cheetoes all day; they accused me of being drunk and on drugs.  Yet these same jerks elsewhere on that same blog accused liberals of calling names. 

    This is hypocrisy at its worst; in fact, the name calling and repeating of their dear leaders’ talking points overwhelms that of the left.  It’s clear that many on the right cannot think for themselves and come up with new arguments because they use these same talking points over and over again.

    You are not thinking, jBeast.

  • Anonymous

    She was not even a twinkle in her Daddy’s eye.  She would join millions of others who had no clue.  Only because of Jackie’s “supposed” comment did people even ask about it. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

    kinda like when hitler PROPOSED annexing czechoslovakia and chamberlain WENT ALONG WITH it…  i’m sure in each case, though, that the democrats and britain are totally absolved of any complicities…

    “i may have went along with it but i didn’t propose it”…  is that leadership?…  sounds like a john kerryism…  or a defense strategy by one of the menendez bros…  too bad it was actually obama’s policy when he had the house majority and a filibuster-proof senate…

      

  • Anonymous

    Gutfeld isn’t fit to carry Maher’s jockstrap.  Gutfeld is a failed comedian lucky to be working at the other comedy network Faux News.  GG wishes HBO, Showtime, Starz, or any pay-channel would give him his own show or even a stand up special but since he sucks he’s stuck playing to the stoners at 3a.m.

  • Anonymous

    The truth hurts and teabaggers can’t stand it.  Truth to a teabagger is like sunlight to a vampire.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly the way the Bush White House lied about Jessica Lynch and tried to use her story to further it’s political aims.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly the way the Bush White House lied about Jessica Lynch and tried to use her story to further it’s political aims.

  • DietCokeHead

    When’s your president(not mine) going to end these wars?

  • DietCokeHead

    Robert “Sheets” Byrd?

    Did youy really just reference that piece of shit?

    That racist old fuck opposes spending money on anything he can’t plaster his name all over. Go to WV if you don’t believe me. Every god damn building in that worthless hick ass state has that dumbfuck’s name on it.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe you, of all people, have the nerve to  challenge someone to post proof of something you lying piece of teabagging crap.  You claimed to have “evidence” that the President and First Lady had a problem with white people and have never posted a lick of “evidence”.  You lying piece of crap instead of posting any “evidence” you ran away and hid like a coward.  You’re a fn’ joke. Post your “evidence” or admit your a lying piece of crap.

    Thirteen days since Michelle claimed “evidence” that the President Of The United States and The First Lady have a problem with white people.  Where’s the “evidence” Michelle?

  • DietCokeHead

    Look, The Real Royal Chimp “liked” your comment. It doesn’t mean much, but in the liberal world, it’s the closest thing there is to winning a trophy.

    All you have to do is type “teabagger” and the Real Royal Chimp throws his poop in approval.

  • DietCokeHead

    Are you done crying?

  • Wpace81196

    and  how many of those deaths are directly related to al qaeda and the taliban, probably more then from american troops. 

  • Anonymous

    There was no name calling here and no talking point echoed. Critical thinking should be par for the course. Instead, you’d rather rely on a shallow matter of coincidence by linking my statement with Rush/Sean.  I don’t watch/listen to them because I can’t stand them, but you wouldn’t know that. You think everyone hates Rush/Sean (which might be true), so you’d rather couple me with them as feeble support for your argument… an argument for which you’ve provided no real proof other than a sob-story you expect us to take as fact.  Nor have you provided any evidence that conservatives are worse about reciting talking points than liberals.  You simply said they are.

    Obama, Reid, Pelosi and DWS are the royal family of talking points and polarizing politics and, until they are no longer the Democrat leadership, it’s hard to imagine liberals as the innocent victims in this matter.

  • Wpace81196

    while i grant you maher can be funny, his misplaced and uninformed righteousness is a bit to much to take

  • DietCokeHead

    Yes, Bill Maher is going to cry because TX rightfully kills it’s lunatics, instead of giving them free handjobs at taxpayer expense like the left would propose.

    You do realize that most Americans don’t sit up at night worried about state funded executions of barbaric shitheads, right?

  • Anonymous

    If anybody would know about mental illness it would be a pathological liar like you.

    Thirteen days since Michelle claimed “evidence” that the President Of The United States and The First Lady have a problem with white people.  Where’s the “evidence” Michelle?

  • DietCokeHead

    You actually think most people agree with you and Paul Krugman? How fucking stupid are you?  You’re by far the dumbest liberal I see here on a regular basis, and that’s saying alot. I don’t think there’s one of you people I would even consider mildly coherent, but you take the fucking cake, darla. Congrats.

  • Anonymous

    Why are ALL liberals nothing but a bunch of pee-pee pants little sissies? Every last one of you, it’s both amazing and pathetic at the very same time. 

    I’m betting someday real soon scientists will crack the code that proves the gay gene and the lib gene are kissing cousins.

  • Anonymous

    I did not accuse you of name calling.  I was merely citing this as another example of how conservatives accuse liberals of things which they themselves are very much guilty of. 

    It is not a “shallow matter of coincidence” in most cases. As you yourself point out, I wouldn’t know that you hate those two.   Perhaps in your case it is a “shallow matter….”, but it is without a doubt not the case in many others.

    I am not telling a “sob story.”  I was telling the truth about something that really happened.  That’s what you conservatives always demand of liberals, isn’t it?  The truth?

    You are using talking points again that liberals are “victims.”  Absurd.  Conservatives play the victim constantly.  Example:  poor little Fox and Friends complained when Donald Trump got out of the running for President.  They blamed the media for him doing so.  Ridiculous.  Abusrd.  Donald Trump’s own actions and ridiculous statements about Obama’s place of birth did him in, not the media.

    You have not “provided any evidence that” “Obama, Reid, Pelosi and DWS are the royal family of talking points and polarizing politics.”  Where is your proof, oh wise one?

  • Anonymous

    “Free handjobs at taxpayer expense?”

    You do know that it is more expensive to execute prisoners than it is to house them for life, don’t you?

    If just one of those “barbaric shitheads” is innocent, then you and your ilk are all barbarians for cheering this killing. 

    And, I’ll just add one last thing, for emphasis. It’s not the fact that you and your ilk are for the death penalty that perturbs me in this situation; it’s the fact that you actually cheer for it. That’s what is sickening.

    You’re probably a Glenn Beck fan, and if you are, you would know that he protested the celebrating of bin Laden’s death. For once, I actually agreed with beck on this one, if that’s what those partiers were doing…..celebrating someone’s death, no matter how evil that person was. Yes, I am glad bin Laden is gone, but I wouldn’t have gone out partying about it, which is in effect what you are doing when you cheer the number of executions in Texas.

  • Jmpwawoo

    It has a great deal to do with it. Tillman had reached the conclusion the US action in Iraq was illegal and that much of the military action in Afghanistan was ineffective. His death by fratricide was covered up by the military, General Stanley McCrystal playing a big part, and he became a manufactured hero, much like Jessica Lynch. I do consider Tillman a hero for his candor and his joining the military and Lynch also for her candor. Bush,Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,Breman and many others are not heros but craven political manipulators.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, kinda like a faux cowboy saying “Mission Accomplished”! We all know how that turned out, hmm? Weapons of mass destruction? We all know how that turned out, hmm? Tax cuts for the wealthy? Multiple loser wars? “Constitution is just a god damned piece of paper.” We know how ALL of that turned out. 

    Wow, now I know where to find the most moronic, gullible, right-wing, knuckle-dragging sheeple ever. “Damn liberals!” Is that best you’ve got? Really? I’d say, ‘say something intelligent’ but we know how you don’t like anything ‘intellectual’, right? Krugman vs Gutless? Hilarious! 

    Yea Giuliani! You’re my FAKE hero! Yea Bush! Destroyed our country but you’re still a lovable drunk! Yea Cheney! An EVIL man straight out of the 15th century! Rummy! Can’t think of anything! I’m so glad they cared so much about America! Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 

    @9e023b98e46d4fe970b799b868cb65f4:disqus Speaking of douchebags… it’s called ‘getting informed’, you should try it before spewing. People might not assume you’re an idiot – at least, not right away.

  • Joepalooka

    the show’s totally GOOFY (kinda like ‘a political Howard Stern show’) but his statement is memorable!

    “Go to hell, Paul Krugman, you bearded bitter buffoon.”

    Krugman should have this etched on his headstone! (WHEN the time comes..c’mon Libs, don’t accuse me of wanting his demise…besides, he provides so much great political humor!)

  • Joepalooka

    nonsense, his previous anti-American rants have been denounced regardless of the month in which he spouts at the mouth.

  • Joepalooka

    nonsense, his previous anti-American rants have been denounced regardless of the month in which he spouts at the mouth.

  • Anonymous

    Victims that Trump dropped out? Is that a serious response?

  • Anonymous

    Victims that Trump dropped out? Is that a serious response?

  • Anonymous

    Fox and Friends were blaming the media, saying they were the cause of Trump dropping out.  So they are playing the “victim” of the media.  They are playing the victim because they blame someone other than Trump for his woes.

  • expatpatriot

    Greg? Go perform an unnatural act with yourself.

    Every word Krugman wrote was absolutely true. A horrible moment in America’s history was converted into a decade of horror, most of it dished out by America. The shame is real, the shame is global, and those who don’t see it are blind, or as in the case of Gutfeld and many of the posters here, deliberately obtuse.

    Man up, Greg! We had an opportunity to pivot a disaster into a world-embracing commitment to go after the roots of terrorism, and instead we let the psychopaths leading our government spit death around the globe.

    We’ll be living down our response to 9/11 for another 50 years. Helluvajob, Bushie!

  • expatpatriot

    Jess Ventura’s a bit more than just a “professional wrestler.”

  • expatpatriot

    I’m just no good trying to laugh at the pathetic. I’d much rather a pie in the face or some seltzer down your pants.

    More precisely, down John Boehner’s pants.

  • Anonymous

    How is the company in that 20% Michelle? I can see many of them right here on this board… proving that misery loves company. Oh, do you need a source for that?

    And cite YOUR sources, you hack! I’ve seen you say that over and over to others yet you provide nothing. And say even less.

  • Anonymous

    racist loser.

  • expatpatriot

    Pundit-Nobel laureate is not equal to war criminal-usurper. For clarity, the two should be labeled differently.

  • Anonymous

    2012freedon
    shove your idea of  freedom where the sun don’t shine,. You repugnants don’t deserve to live in America.

  • Anonymous

    Give him hell Greg!

  • Anonymous

    “bald face”? Do people actually still say that? By the way, it’s ‘bald faceD’ liar. 

    I know, I know, stupid ‘letters’ always gettin’ in the way of spellin’. 

    I know you probably can’t read much but if you could you’d know that Krugman has one of the most-read columns in the nation. And that includes being read by – wait for it – teabagging dolts like yourself (that can read, anyway). Thus, now we have all of the contrived outrage. Greg Gutless? Do you really take what he says seriously? Do you know ANYTHING about him? “Why yes I do! Faux News told me everything I (need to) know…” 

  • Anonymous

    Wait what…..are you saying it’s okay to not know what the Cuban Missile Crisis was?

  • Richie

    Best comment on this thread. Kudos to Carmen.
    “Krugman said what he had to say on 9/11 because of all the hypocrisy
    that goes on year round. The republicans refused to fund health care
    services for the survivors of 9/11. They wrap themselves in the flag.
    “Patriotism is the last refuge for a scoundrel”-Samuel Johnson. The
    bombing of Pearl Harbor brought out the best in our country. It raised
    our collective courage and will to face the enemy. 9/11 was a tragic
    day, it wouded the soul of this nation, but BUSH/CHENEY used it, no
    exploited our love of country, told us to go shopping and then took us
    to war in Iraq and caused the death of thousands including american
    soldiers. This act of revenge and lust for oil, squandered billions.
    They LIED AND THEN THEY TORTURED and disgraced our nation. Krugman said
    what had to be said. It doesn’t take away from the sacrifices of those
    who died seeking justice or undermine the deaths and sacrifices, It
    points out the UTTER DISGRACEFU behavior of our political leaders who
    instead of rising to the the occasion, exploited our love of country and
    caused far more damage to our country, than binLaden’s bombs could ever
    have.”

  • Anonymous

    It’s ironic that this segment showcases exactly what Krugman was writing about. This “F*ck you America-hater” was the exact foolish sentiment that lead to our last ten years of general awfulness.

  • Anonymous

    Watching the 9/11 memorials, and seeing all of the relatives of the poor people who died that terrible day, I only wish that Mr. Krugman had been sitting alone in Windows on the World on that morning when the first plane hit.

    And that he was the only casualty that day.

    This way, we could take his subsequent advice and forget that the day ever happened.

    I wish that Krugman had never happened.

  • Anonymous

    Ahhhh…I just love when you Libs talk all sweet to me.

  • Rick Shoaf

    Actually 2012freedom, the Dems in office when Bush got his so called authorization did not declare or even authorize a war in Iraq.  Bush came to Congress and the American people with “evidence” (that we know now, and even knew then, was made up.. if you actually listened to the UN Weapons Inspectors that were screaming out on CPAN that Iraq had no WMDs and did not pose a threat to the US).  And he asked Congress to authorize any means necessary to remove the threat from Iraq.. IF THEY WERE FOUND TO BE A THREAT.  And THAT is what Congress authorized, not a war.  Iraq was never a threat, Bush knew it, Rumsfeld knew it, Cheney knew it, but they came on national TV time and time again, stating that Iraq was.. and you believed it, while some of us saw past his lies because we investigated for ourselves. 

    FACT.. Bush knew Iraq was not a threat to us.  The yellow cake paper was debunked months before by his own CIA.
    FACT.. Bush knew that Saddam had zero ties to al Queda.  Saddam saw al Queda as a threat to him.
    FACT.. Bush knew that Saddam did not authorize a hit on his father.  al Queda did.
    FACT.. Bush knew that Saddam did not use gas on his own people.  The US Army investigated this claim, and found in 1991 that the gas used on the Kurds was actually Iranian.. and Cheney knew this, because HE sold the gas that Iraq used on Iran.. 1 used Mustard gas, the other used a gas that effects blood.. you can’t mix them up as the after effects are very different visually.
    FACT.. Bush was informed by his intelligence agencies that removing Saddam from power would result in a power vacuum and that tribal warfare and chaos would be end result.

    FACT.. you need to get informed of what really happened and who voted for what. 

    But hey.. we got some oil.. so it makes it all worthwhile right?

  • Texman77

    Gutfield is the trashiest anchor at the trashiest network. 

  • Pit Boss

    If you’re a birther, you have nothing to say about any conspiracy theories ever as you are the looniest of them all.

  • Pit Boss

    Are you in the closet as well? That’s sad for both of you :(

    Also: *a lot

  • Rio

    Show me in this Authorization for the Use of Military Force where it eliminates the responsibility of the democrats who voted for it.  I understand their cover their ass comments, but where in this authorization does it allow for the dems to say……war at last result, or Bush would have to come back to Congress before entering into a war.   Where does it say any of what the sunshine patriots were claiming:

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ243/html/PLAW-107publ243.htm

    Now, you claim the UN Inspectors were screaming on CSPAN that there were no weapons of mass destruction……except David Kay testified to Congress that they did indeed find enough in Iraq that made Hussein non-compliant to UN resolutions.  Did you ever read the transcript of his testimony, it was available.  He also testified that Saddam was more dangerous than ever.

    So much for weapons, what about terrorists?  One of the UN Resolutions forbid Hussein from harboring, funding or associating with terrorists.  What’s up with that one?  He had abu Nidal there, he knew Zarqawi and al Qaeda were in country prior to OIF.

    What about repatriating foreigners?  What about abusing Iraqi citizens?  Coalition forces opened a prison that housed toddlers to teens.  What about the rape rooms, the torture chambers.

    What about all the other offenses listed on the Authorization for the Use of Military Force that we entered Operation Iraqi FREEDOM for, not Operation Iraqi WMD.

    And, what about the threat information the Russians presented us with about Iraq’s plans to attack us at home and our interests abroad.  But, the animal was caged, he was harmless, even while funding suicide bombers in Israel, that little teddy bear.

  • Fudge441

    Who is Greg Gutfeld and does anyone care?

  • Rio

    Maher doesn’t need a jockstrap. 

  • Norbit

    The GOP should hold hearings on Obama’s use of Government Agencies as his Private Armies!

    $535 Million disappears into a bankrupt “Green” Company, who’s CEO is Obama ‘bundler’.

    Immelt whores-out msnbc to get Obama elected; GE ships 48,000 jobs to China & pays 0 Taxes.

    He’s as CORRUPT as there has ever been!!

  • Fudge441

    Jeff Gutfeld is a actually a comedian…seriously.

  • Rio

    Look what the little guy in the big chair is doing:
    http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-jersey-city/government-snatching-9-11-victims-bodies-to-disprove-link-to-ground-zero-cancer

    Gov’t snatching 911 victims bodies to disprove link to ground zero cancer.  Tsk, tsk, it ain’t the Republicans in charge of that.

  • TW111

    What He Said!!
    Bearded Bitter Buffoon… spot on.

  • TW111

    What He Said!!
    Bearded Bitter Buffoon… spot on.

  • Rio

    He watches Fox and Friends yet points fingers at those he assumes listen to Rush and Sean. lol

    Can’t make this stuff up!

  • Rio

    His comment section is up and running for his yesterdays response to the criticism, only, no one is commenting.  Funny how that happened.  He might not push the button, but, he certainly gave the order to disable the comment section.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/more-about-the-911-anniversary/

  • Michelle

    Darla Loon has no use for facts.

  • Rio

    Good grief!  Can’t we just have the old sane trolls back, this is rediculous!  Where in the heck did this Bitchen thing come from?

  • Rio

    Will you be celebrating your 13th birthday soon?  Perhaps mommies already on it.

  • Anonymous

    “More precisely, down John Boehner’s pants.”

    You’d never be able to with Cantor in the way… then again…

  • Anonymous

    Duhhhh, well, derrrrrr, that’s a great reason! Then again, look who she worked for. Doubt he knew what it was either. He thought they were talking about Cuban cigars this whole time! 

  • Rio
  • Rparshooter

    Hey Greg, your show Red Eye sucked, yhell suck, so go to

  • Anonymous

    Oh, that bastion of independence… run by Frank Newport and Lydia Saad…. republicans! The same Frank Newport that donated to Herman Cain when he tried to run for Senate? That seem ethical! Try another… 

  • expatpatriot

    Yeah, wouldn’t it be nice if we didn’t need economists? We could just let the market take care of everything and we’d all be happy and well-served.

    Fool.

  • expatpatriot

    Sorry for that drab, wretched life you appear to be leading. Sad really.

    I, OTOH, propose a healthier response to bullshit. Somewhere in the sweet spot between scorn and comedy. To me, that’s the right note.

  • expatpatriot

    I believe that dsgspm was speaking to people who get their view of the government’s relationship to the individual somewhere other than comic books and stroke mags.

    What you’re looking for is in Aisle 3: http://dwkeys.tripod.com/humor.html

  • expatpatriot

    Actions have consequences. That’s something you “America never makes mistakes” people might someday learn.

  • expatpatriot

    Actions have consequences. That’s something you “America never makes mistakes” people might someday learn.

  • expatpatriot

    Obama doesn’t respect Krugman’s opinion nearly enough. If he’d taken Krugman’s suggestions regarding the targeting and size of the first stimulus package, we’d (probably) be looking at an entirely different world (not to mention electoral map).

  • expatpatriot

    Unless you’re telepathic, how about you don’t make shit up about what other people do or don’t think?

    Unless your objective is to look like a bigger asshole each time you post.

  • Victor Noir

    Is there seriously anyone here who will even try to defend the orgy of corruption and gratuitous warmongering that happened after 9-11?  The false outrage and phony sanctimoniousness people engage in in the name of honoring 9-11 is repulsive.  Everybody knows what our government did in the name of 9-11 was shameful; pretending it wasn’t isn’t patriotic. 

  • Anonymous

    Which Cousin are you? Maybe the one with the WIDE Stance!

  • http://twitter.com/TommyBennett Tom Bennett

    Don’r speak for me, you douche bag.

  • Anonymous

    No, rio, really thinks Gutfeld is funny

  • ganymede

    Giving credence to this silly twerp and his silly program because he attacks Paul Krugman is really off the wall. Krugman is absolutely right. The rightwing neoconers hijacked 9/11 in their attempt to get permanent control over this country, and they’ve almost succeeded. Fortunately, Bush/Cheney are just a hair’s breathe from being tried for treason. On the other hand,  Paul Krugman will go down as the most prophetic economist of our age. There is no other answer for our financial woes except to stimulate the economy. The economy is moribund. What do you do when you have a near corpse on your hand. You do what you can to sensibly stimulate it. Which brings me to the subject of Keynes who is probaly the most important liberal savior of capitalism. Who else did as much as he did for capitalism, with the exception of Mussolini and Hitler, who pushed capitalism into fascism, which is what the Tea Partiers and their Koch-y backers want to do to our nearly dead version of capitalism. Shame on the rightwing Republicans and quite a few muddle-headed Democrats – the type who went along with Bush/Cheney’s Iraqi War and the destruction of our economy.   

  • Anonymous

    Possibly a totally red one…

  • Anonymous

    ” I don’t know how many times I can point out situations where
    conservatives say that all liberals can do is “call names,” but in the
    same paragraph, they start calling liberals all sorts of names.” – rjudge, 9/13/11, about 20 lines up

  • john.kliber

    Krugman’s got weird googly eyes. ‘Nuff said.

  • john.kliber

    Krugman’s got weird googly eyes. ‘Nuff said.

  • expatpatriot

    I’d think otherwise.

  • expatpatriot

    I’d think not.

  • Glutton

    I must say that I have read a lot of blog comments and Krugman’s was the worst.  I’ve seen people claim that the passengers of flight 93 weren’t really heroes because the government shot down the plane.  I’ve heard people say that FDNY were a bunch of morons for going into the north tower after the south tower had already collapsed.  But how dare Krugman steal 9/11 from Bush and Giuliani?  That’s just rude.

  • Anonymous

    Actually that would be awesome!!!! A country full of self reliant people. What a thought!

  • Rio

    You sure that’s what Rio thinks?  how would you know?  Actually, Rio lives a very full life filled with HER family, friends, homes and hobbies.  That’s exactly why you miss me so much during those periods of time that I have to drop out of here.  Lawn is full of gardens, the other home is 7 & 1/2 hours away, great-grandchildren to play with when I’m at this house, no time for Gutfeld or the internet unless it’s before the dew dries or it rains.

    You lefties assume way too much, and then you believe what you assume, like a dog chasing it’s tail.

  • Anonymous

    Do I detect a hint of the disingenuous, in your above post?  Or, perhaps is it that you are rather clumsy when expressing yourself, I think not?

    I’d wager that you got beat up a lot in high school?  Deserved no doubt.  LOL

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    You had a chance, a fleeting moment to demonstrate intellect and the ability to see beyond the orthodoxy to which you ascribe, but, typically and again, failed miserably… Ouch!

    Your writing in this case, and others, tends toward propaganda and hyperbolae.  Certainly you have the adulation of your compatriots, however, were to write or say something that that your traditional ‘opponents’ find credible and worth considering, would indeed be novel. Not “compromise, just simple validity, would be nice! 

    Now that would be an accomplishment.

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    You should write a book Titled– “Vulgarity and un-couth behavior in public, without really getting any attention?”  By, Tom Bennett

    Or, “Deep Thoughts” by Tom Bennett.  100 blank pagesLOL

  • Anonymous

    Apparently, you too lack the capacity to divest yourself of a man who has lost his credibility, or, certainly is weakening such by his own hand, as if strangling himself?

    Rote orthodoxy, is NOT evidence of positive change, rather a sign of emerging political and social inflexibility.  You missed a viable opportunity to show your capacity for reflective thought?

    Purveyor.

  • Anonymous

    rio, honey, I don’t really care or think about you.  I just used as a jumping off point to reiterate how anti-funny Gutfeld and treacher are. 

    Talking about assuming way to much.

  • rjudge

    Rio: your “logic” makes absolutely no sense. 

    What does watching Fox and Friends have to do with assuming beast listens or doesn’t listen to those idiots, especially when I don’t watch them except on very rare occasions? 

    It doesn’t matter if beast listens to limbaugh and hannity; the fact is, he repeated something conservatives say quite often, and what they say comes from people like limbaugh and hannity; it comes from people like ingraham; it comes from many other conservatives who post on blogs.  It is repeated over and over again.

    “Can’t make this stuff up!”

  • rjudge

    Listen, JBeast.  Your logic doesn’t make sense.  There is absolutely no place in this thread where you can find that I say that liberals do not call names, and that includes myself.  However, I’d say that I didn’t used to be like this until I’ve seen the name calling on blogs like this and when I’ve seen the craziness coming from conservative pundits and politicians.  How many times did beck make the nazi/hitler comparisons of the Obama administration?  It’s been documented that it’s been hundreds of times.  And, how many times have teabaggers then repeated this name calling and nazi/hitler comparison nonsense?  Last summer, a teabag group in Iowa rented a billboard comparing Obama to Lenin and Hitler.  Stuff like this infuriates me, so, yes, I am going to call people names sometimes.

    I am pointing out that conservatives often accuse liberals of calling names and say that liberals can’t point out facts.  Yet conservatives do the same thing.  Can’t you follow that logic? Conservatives call names just as much if not more than liberals do. 

    Maybe you don’t call names, but I bet I can find a place where you have done so.  I can certainly find many instances of right wing name calling in this thread.  A few minutes search this morning revealed this:

    Referring to Krugman: “Is it ever any different with this liberal loon? “

    “All Dems are gutless and pathetic.”
    Referring to deceased Senator Robert Byrd: “Did you really just reference that piece of shit? That racist old fuck”  The person who wrote this sounds ignorant because it sounds as if he thinks Byrd is still alive.
    “HEY LOSER LIBERAL?”
    Again, jbeast.  Your “logic” is greatly flawed in the points you are trying to prove.

  • rjudge

    Listen, JBeast.  Your logic doesn’t make sense.  There is absolutely no place in this thread where you can find that I say that liberals do not call names, and that includes myself.  However, I’d say that I didn’t used to be like this until I’ve seen the name calling on blogs like this and when I’ve seen the craziness coming from conservative pundits and politicians.  How many times did beck make the nazi/hitler comparisons of the Obama administration?  It’s been documented that it’s been hundreds of times.  And, how many times have teabaggers then repeated this name calling and nazi/hitler comparison nonsense?  Last summer, a teabag group in Iowa rented a billboard comparing Obama to Lenin and Hitler.  Stuff like this infuriates me, so, yes, I am going to call people names sometimes.

    I am pointing out that conservatives often accuse liberals of calling names and say that liberals can’t point out facts.  Yet conservatives do the same thing.  Can’t you follow that logic? Conservatives call names just as much if not more than liberals do. 

    Maybe you don’t call names, but I bet I can find a place where you have done so.  I can certainly find many instances of right wing name calling in this thread.  A few minutes search this morning revealed this:

    Referring to Krugman: “Is it ever any different with this liberal loon? “

    “All Dems are gutless and pathetic.”
    Referring to deceased Senator Robert Byrd: “Did you really just reference that piece of shit? That racist old fuck”  The person who wrote this sounds ignorant because it sounds as if he thinks Byrd is still alive.
    “HEY LOSER LIBERAL?”
    Again, jbeast.  Your “logic” is greatly flawed in the points you are trying to prove.

  • Anonymous

    Your pain is delicious.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, I just wanted to confirm that if I mentioned your name, you would show up. You’re like a puppy, except that puppies are endearing.

  • Anonymous

    “I meant to do that.”

  • Anonymous

    You can go now, Lassie

  • Anonymous

    Bad day?

  • Anonymous

    Down, boy

  • Anonymous

    Bad year, then.

  • Anonymous

    Your attention is startin’ the creep me out, sean. I’m flattered, but, not interested

  • Anonymous

    You’re the one who keeps bringing me into your conversations, Tim.

  • Anonymous

    keeps? Narcissist much?

  • Mack

    Fair enough… he should have taken responses… but this passes for analysis? These people get paid for what’s supposed to be thoughtful commentary too, like Krugman, but this is just as childish. How about looking seriously into the accusation Krugman makes? If you find it wrong, disprove it. It’s certainly not so off base that someone can dismiss it without looking deeper. At least one guy was able to say the wars in response were a mistake, but the other four chased him back into a corner.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Tim, keeps. Words mean things.

  • Anonymous

    If only

  • Anonymous

    Well put.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Thanks

  • Anonymous

    You’re welcome.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you just cringe when people write “your welcome”?

  • expatpatriot

    I’m supposed to “divest myself” of Obama? How would you propose I do that, even imagining I wanted to?

    Obama is challenged as any president is challenged — I mean, it’s an inherently challenging job — and I as a citizen should abandon my support because *you* think he’s lost his credibility?

    It doesn’t work that way.

    With regard to “Rote orthodoxy . . . inflexibility.” ‘Fess up. You know as well as I do that that’s a semantically-null statement. You sent millions of electrons to their deaths for no purpose whatsoever. Shame.

    And I have evaluated the nonsensical drivel that comes out of Gutfeld’s mouth and — upon reflection — concluded that his mouth would be much more usefully engaged performing the aforementioned unnatural act (presuming he’s limber enough).

  • Anonymous

    No.

  • Anonymous

    I do

  • Anonymous

    Okay.

  • Flav

    I did not know that Krugman (The Loser) was writing under the pen name of “Darladoon”… Obviously the pen name did not improve his brain power!!!

  • Anonymous

    Your approval means a lot, sean

  • The7Sticks

    I’m still not quite sure what Krugman said that was so damnable, and I consider myself to be somewhat of a conservative. He made it pretty clear which ideology he is speaking from (the left), and from what I read, it just sounds like another generic liberal screed where we went to war for the wrong reasons and that it’s all Bush’s fault (which has been parroted by liberals like Michael Moore for nearly ten years.) I simply roll my eyes every time I see something like this knowing the truth about these things. Perhaps I’m missing something, since what I read was about three-to four paragraphs long. Was this post longer than that?

  • Anonymous

    We know.

  • Anonymous

    By “we” do you mean you and Pablo?

  • Anonymous

    No.

  • Anonymous

    Was it “Tucker and sean”?

    I’m worried about your mental health, my friend.

  • Anonymous

    No.

  • Anonymous

    still, you might want to talk to a professional about the delusions and narcissism. If we’re gonna carry on like this faux witty banter, I’d rather you be well

  • Anonymous

    “Why do you keep replying to me even though I keep dropping you into the conversation at random?”

  • Anonymous

    So, I wish you good health and you respond defensively? To quote “bad day?”

  • Anonymous

    Relax.

  • Anonymous

    are you talking to yourself again?

    Sean, this is almost like the time you filled up an entire Edroso comment thread. You have to let us go and get on with your life

  • Anonymous

    Calm down, Tim.

  • Anonymous

    Are you getting upset, sean?

  • Anonymous

    Aw, poor Tim.

  • Anonymous

    Is that confirmation on the upset thing? You’ll be fine. I’m gonna go ahead and give you the last word on this. Keep following me around and see if I summon you again, okay? Weird thing is, I think you believe you annoy me, when I actually find this quite fun. After all, this is punching up for me.

  • Anonymous

    Look at him spinning his wheels…

  • Silicondoc

    The declaration of war on Saddam started in easrly 90′s but the resolution to remove him and replace with democracy was wrote up in 1998 under CLINTOON – and that’s when they all adopted it as official policy.

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