This nincompoops can’t imagine a system in which normal people may have a problem with rich parasites fleecing them endlessly to further enrich themslves. Pathetic right winger dingbats.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/a-nation-of-populists-and-class-warriors/2011/12/15/gIQAq415vO_blog.html

The dope fiends in the park were not really cross with the authorities.

They were frustrated and peeved , for they had run out of matches with which they light their marijuana drug cigarettes.

“Marijuana drug cigarettes”? Hey, just how old are you gloves?

What is their goal?  What is their objective?  What changes do they want to see – equality, peace, and harmony for all?  At least the protesters in the 70′s had a clear objective – end the war in Vietnam.  At least the protesters in 2003 had an objective – don’t go to war with Iraq.  At least the Tea Party had an objective – shrink the deficit. 

What is their goal here?  What are they trying to accomplish?  What is it that will happen that will make them say, “we are now satisfied?”  I have no idea – and worse yet, neither do they.

For Time magazine to group these Occupy Protesters, who are all basically white college graduates with upper middle class families who are protesting some percieved wrong based on a false understanding of how the world operates, with the protesters in the Middle East, who were risking their lives and those of their family to seek a better life for their family through formulating a new government based on justice and democratic rule – is quite simply, insulting.  I would say the same if Time Magazine equated the Tea Party with the Mid-East protesters – they are not the same – not even close.

And to say that Occupy Protesters are “normal people,” and actually speak for the 99% is also insulting.  Most people walk past their illegal and feces ridden encampments – and ignore them, as if they didn’t exist.  Perhaps they will roll their eyes, and think to themselves – “come on guys, get a life.” 

Protest the illegal war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Libya, or the new bi-partisan law, signed by the president, giving him unfettered authority to indefinitly detain US citizens for being suspected terrorists – don’t protest because you have nothing better to do.

I just had my 118th birthday on Monday. I may be getting up there, but I keep with with the times. I’m watching these young beatniks and flappers jitterbug in the park and I dig where they’re coming from. Which is Seattle.

“throwing bricks, shooting flares, and tossing bags of paint at Seattle Police in a standoff between the two factions”

This is getting really lame..

The cops just need to cordon off the entire protest, set up a big tent and go through and arrest every single one of them, charging each for aggrivated assault on a law enforcement officer.  After they spend a couple years in the pokey, they may find that temper tantrums rarely get you what you want after the age of four..

Getting money out of politics would be a great start. When people say they don’t know what is being demanded, they mean they can’t see how what is being demanded can be achieved within our present system. It can’t. So they are asking for a change in the system. Basically, the aim is to stop Wall Street from choosing the government.

You are an idiot. Read the link above.

Keen, big daddy!  snap, snap!

I’m always amazed that the astroturfed group of political Rip Van Winkles that werre formed after a rant on the floor of the US Stock Exchange, funded by monies funneled in by two billionaire oil men and given many hours of free advertising on the “news channel” of the US corporatists can say without embarressment that they were there to ”protest the exploding deficit.

Not one of them can reasonably answer the question as to why for EIGHT YEARS they had nothing to say as the Bush administration’s massive expansion of government powers, government size and exploding deficit. What was the difference between the 44th President of the US and the 45th?

Nothing like a bit of left wing hackery to start the day. 

So, you are in favor of getting big union money out of politics? 

I agree.  Perhaps having a friendly gathering outside one of the $35,000 a plate fundraising dinners for the Pres would add some spice to their story.  Don’t you think it would be “cute” to see them meet and greet the attendants?  

sounds like a great POLICE state…cant wait ..

Lol, is the money in unions really comparable to Wall st and big corporations?

You have graphs to show us? Where is your proof? Why would we agree when what you are saying is really nonsensical?

Thing is, these aren’t normal people. They’re anti-social miscreants. Do you think your “rich parasites” (You know, the people paying the vast majority of the bills) give a damn about these idiots sleeping in the streets and rioting?

At least you are still Writing…

Hey I got Frank on singing Christmas chorals with the rat pack. Merry Christmas, gloves.

I agree with your general premise. We should have been more aware and critical with “44″ in office. We reallly didnt start waking up ’til the end of his term.

But does that mean that we should continue to bury our heads in the sand with “45″ in office?  At what point is it legitimate, in your mind, to begin getting angry?  When we once again have a republican in office to blame?

I am an anti-christ
I am an anarchist
Don’t know what I want but
I know how to get it
I wanna destroy the passer by cos I
I wanna BE anarchy!

No, I can’t see how getting politicians to quit whoring themselves out gets achieved by attacking Portland cops.

Groovy.

They’re working live at the big Copa in the sky.

Never did figure how Peter Lawford fit in there.

Not that they could do that, but problem is even if they did most liberal city leaders would refuse to go to trial since ACLU, SEIU, and other liberal orgs would pour money and national attention on them and make it too expensive.  Maybe except for brick throwers, all the rest are probably already out of jail.   Look how cowardly the Oakland mayor had handled the early violence of the OWS protesters there, throwing her own cops under the bus after they’d responded to be attacked by protesters.

Comparable? No, not really. It’s no contest.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

Why does this adorable video remind me of Obama talking to his constituents?
http://themorningspew.com/2011/12/15/cute-baby-brave-baby/

So much more desirable to have poor parasites who pillage their way through life instead of working to earn a paycheck.  Rich people are stingy with the money they earn, but at least the companies they own have payrolls that allow many others to earn a living.   If its so wrong for rich people to enrich themselves close the loopholes that allow them to move their money around and not pay the taxes their own employees are paying, but don’t raise taxes on everyone including the employees!  That is just plain stupid, and the far left (personified by OWS) seems to be stuck on stupid.

44 never ran $1.5 trillion deficits. 45 has done nothing but. And we’re over 1000 days since the Senate has passed a budget.

Why do the Friends hate democracy? Of what exactly are they scared?

How to argue your case as a liberal:

1. Call a person a name who you don’t agree with;

2. Cite a liberal blog as proof in favor of your argument.

3. End of argument. 

Throwing bricks and paint at people is not democracy, it is hooliganism, rioting and the rule of the mob, something with which all libs can identify.

And son, the 1st. Amendment grants people the right to “peaceably” assemble- it doesn’t allow the throwing  of bricks.

I”m sure this happened because libs can’t read.

Ah, more libs caught doing what they do best. Ya, they sure are like the Tea Party people!

LOL

Says a leftest who believes violence is the only answer to his inability to be successful.

Hey idiot- real people do not live their lives based on pools. What an ignoramus you are.

I remember when you supported the Tea Party and it’s protests against Govt. excess…. Oh Wait. You didn’t support that protest against excess. Oh well…..

Oh Snap !

>> Barabu: “This nincompoops can’t imagine a system in which normal people may have a
problem with rich parasites fleecing them endlessly to further enrich
themslves. Pathetic right winger dingbats… (http://www.washingtonpost.com/...)

>> gk123: “What
is their goal here?  What are they trying to accomplish?  What is it
that will happen that will make them say, “we are now satisfied?”  I
have no idea – and worse yet, neither do they.”

>> Barabu: “You are an idiot. Read the link above.”

Actually, I read the link and the only thing it shows is that either (1) you’re in need of a refresher course in “Reading Comprehension 101″ or that (2) perhaps you should look in a mirror before calling other people names, since he only true village idiot here would be YOU.

First — Gk123 is basically pointing out, in conjunction with the article and the latest clash with the police, that the OWS crowd are basically malcontents — morons who have no real message, no real goal, and have no real ambition other than to bitch about the latest slight they feel they’ve gotten in life. And GK is right about that. The OWS crowd are the types of clowns that you’d invite to a summer barbecue, but who would then go out of their way to find something — anything — to bitch about (“Oh man, I wanted my burger rare!” “Too much mayonnaise in the potato salad!” “What, Diet Coke, but no Diet Pepsi? What kind of party is this???” ) The lame part being they’d be rude guests whining like babies about free food that you were nice enough to offer in the first place.

Second — the article you’re citing does NOT say that the American people support the OWS crowd AT ALL. In fact, Greg Sargent, who wrote that Washington Post Op Ed, must be your long lost “separated at birth” twin since you both share the same mental incapacity for interpreting data. Case in point, the article begins by stating this…

QUOTE: “Pew Research has just released the most detailed polling I’ve seen yet
on Occupy Wall Street, economic fairness, rising inequality, and the
lack of Wall Street accountability. If these numbers don’t put an end to the nonsense about how Dems risk alienating the
“middle of the country” by embracing a populist “class warfare” message,
nothing will…”

The BIG problem being that aside from the opening sentence where Sargent purposefully works in the OWS crowd, NO WHERE in the rest of the article are they mentioned and NO WHERE in any of the polling data are people even asked about OWS. Basically, Sargent just decides to take data about the economy and GLUE IT to the OWS crowd, as if it’s a given they are one in the same. In short, Sargent was predisposed to reach a conclusion, so he just decided to take random facts and figures and cherry pick whatever suited his needs.

Ultimately, what does the Pew study show? It shows that people GENERALLY believe that “rich people” have more economic power than a lower income person, and that “Wall Street bankers” (who by inference are likewise perceived or defined to be “rich”) also have more economic power than a lower income person.

HOLY CRAP !!!
STOP THE PRESSES AND ALERT THE MEDIA !!!
THAT’S ABSOLUTELY EARTH-SHAKING NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, I never saw THAT plot twist coming!  Just imagine, in polling the average person, in turns out that people generally believe that those who HAVE money have more power in a capitalistic society than those who DON’T have any!

OMG, I’m so glad I had a new Pew Poll to tell me THAT !!!

Finally — the polling data DOESN’T back up the OWS crowd given the way people self-identify themselves politically. Currently, only 17% of the country would call themselves “Liberal”, while nearly 45% consider themselves “Conservative” (which breaks down into actual Republicans, blue dog Democrats, and moderate Independents). That’s a 3-1 margin. Yet the Pew Poll you’re citing does a slight of hand trick by continually breaking the numbers into Left vs. Right to try and arrive at larger numbers, to make certain things SEEM a certain way.

In other words, the Pew study will say that certain numbers have gone up…which makes you think “Wow, I guess a lot more people feel this way”…well, till you realize that it’s actually LIBERALS or even Democrats who feel that way, while the Republican or Conservative numbers have essentially stayed the same. So, again, basically what the Pew study shows is that Liberals think the capitalist system is unfair and the wealthy are too wealthy and getting a free ride, while Republicans support the free market system and think those who have money genuinely earned it.

HOLY CRAP !!!

STOP THE PRESSES AND ALERT THE MEDIA !!!

THAT’S ABSOLUTELY EARTH-SHAKING NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, I never saw THAT plot twist coming EITHER !!!

(insert mocking eye roll here…)

I doubt know about that Nutsofast. In a Texas summer, pools can be very important, indeed.

Perhaps, you meant poles, Poles or polls?

Thanks Mr. Hall Monitor- finally, you have posted something of substance.

They are not as oldie, moldy, not as reactionary, not as self-serving, not all that angry and not as fond of Slim Jims and Ding Dongs as their T-Partee Terrorist counterparts.

No, they are just common lib criminals with no values, future or money, son. Kinda like YOU!

BTW, with Joy Behar’s show cancelled, who are ya going to whack it to at night now?

Wow, make shit up and lie much? Rhetorical question, don’t bother.

LOL…The self-righteous-indignatio from the Fakenews Corp is sooo predictable.

you break the law you go to jail. it’s pretty simple.

As predictable as violence at an OWers rally, son.

In a tribute to John Lennon, the OWSers have developed a new chant:

“All we are saying  is give violence a chance.”

Now that is going to leave a mark.

Wanted: Political Writer To Focus on Women’s Issues at Mediaite

Perfect job for you, Mrs. Philby!

Robert put on his Nehru jacket, love beads and Keds and went down to Occupy Austin to blend in with the kids.

He didn’t.

You do know that both sides do this kind of stuff, right? Call names or make ridiculous claims and then cite some blogger or “researcher” or “think tank” to support it.

Conservatives and Liberals are alike in this non-fact based debate they seem to so enjoy.

Sadly, I’m afraid it’s going to bounce right off snowjob’s exceedingly thick skull. Surely you noticed how he’s already decided that reality is nonsensical.

You can’t fix stupid.

Fashion advice and whore stoning. Kook would be perfect!

No disagreement there

You’d just prefer if the unions ran government, oh never mind they do, sterns has his own WH parking spot.

This is the movement that wants to grow it’s membership by tricking people into showing up. Brilliant.

http://gawker.com/5868073/im-the-jerk-who-pranked-occupy-wall-street

I will respond on behalf of Snowspot –

“Oh yeah, well, George Bush sucks!!!!!”

“Occupy Unions” – I like the sound of it.

What goes around come around…people will only take so much from the goose stepping thugs in body armor…

you disobey the police you pay the price…it’s not rocket science. ;)

Unions are democracies themselves, they vote for a leader, and take positions generally for the benefit of their membership. Is it perfect? No, but I’ve yet to hear of a corporation holding elections from within their company, especially from the employees ones in sweatshops, and their are many leaked memos, of executives intimidating their employees to support a party over the other.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/04/20/koch-industries-sent-political-mailers-to-employees-telling-them-who-to-vote-for/

For the record they are all too powerful, but unions are the reason that we have decent working conditions, weekend, and 40 hr work week. Every benefit is something that a union fought for in the past. Read some history of the Haymarket affair. “May 1, 1890, was agreed upon as the date on which workers would strike for an eight-hour work day.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair

What goes around come around…people will only take so much from the goose stepping thugs in body armor.”

Those “thugs” are known as police, son.

You are so ’60s.

If Gertrude Stein were alive today , she would be saying to the OWSer thugs: “You are a lost generation.”

You have no values, no ethics, no direction,no purpose and no future.

The enemy claims incentive to work is killed by progressive taxation. What is actually happening is incentive to work is being killed by regressive taxation. Incentive to create, build, and see new ideas come to life, has been hijacked by the elites and their gaggle of thugs.

All we wanted was a fair shot at a free market, we wanted access to the American dream; To make something of ourselves, but the elites have taken this opportunity away by laying the tax burden on the working poor (formerly the middle-class), making it impossible to compete.

Democracy is dead. The wealthy will win. They always do.

As a retired Combat Vet I am sick of fighting, so I am done with war. As a peaceful protester I can say I am done with peace-I don’t have it in me to turn the other cheek, I want to hurt someone. All that is left is to submit.

But if I submit, I betray my people, the United States and the Constitution, to the ENEMY. So what is left? This is a young mans game.

God I am depressed.

Does anyone still read or subscribe to Time Magazine??  I thought they went down the tubes long ago.

Clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about.  The Tea Party was for EXACTLY  that…government excess…too big government spending too much money and putting us all into debt for generations.

Conservatives will kill a hundred thousand people to save a nickel on a gallon of gas, or start a war over a drone, but throw a brick in protest and it’s the end of the world as Fox News knows it. Hope OWS eats the Rich!

HEY WAS SPOT ON!  Time  a liberal rag and front for the the DNC is full of shit for naming these malcontents persons of the year……  they have accomplished nothing and are just following their do nothing president who spurned them on with his idiotic comment to get out of your slippers and take to the streets…..

President Bush kept the cost of the Iraq and Afgan wars OFF THE BUDGET. What is it that stops you right wingers remembering that?

The true amount of US deficit was not really known because Mitch Daniel’s his Budget Director was ordered not to make it all clear.

This was also the time of Vice President Cheney’s statement that “deficits don’t matter”, something that was true until the 20th Jan 2009 when a half black Hawaian was sworn in. Remembering all of this it makes it pretty hard to take the members of that astroturfed group known as the teaparty as seriously as they wish everyone would.

I like OWS now.  It lets me call that day I was stoned out of my mind in the park, exposing myself, and peeing on that park bench…. I was Protesting!…Funny that wasn’t what those kids from the kindergarten called it at the time.  

“Pathetic right winger dingbats.” You mean those OWS protesters on the cover of TIME maggotine, oops, magazine? Those are pathetic LEFT winger dingbats. The right wing nutz are the Tea Party (AKA Patriots of America, which protested the Obamacare bill being rammed down our throats, by the LEFTISTS in WASHED-UP DC and never once got arrested for doing so, but were LIED about by the LEFT wing media)  ya need a lesson in American History.

Congress kept the cost of OIF and OEF off budget due to the fact that it was not possible to budget war.  But, the cost of war was indeed included in total spending and we know exactly how much was spent.

There also was a time where deficits were not as much of a threat to our economy, Cheney’s comment was made in such a time. Times have drastically changed since anyone could take that attitude, thankfully, that “astroturfed group known as the teaparty” brought that to the nation’s attention and many big spending congressmen were tossed.

Bush is credited with doubling the national debt over the course of 8 years.  The debt grew $3.28 trillion, again, over eight years, wars included.

Obama is credited for averaging $1.413 trillion in deficit spending PER YEAR.  All of it must be off budget, because we haven’t operated on a budget since Obama signed the last Bush budget into law in the form of a porked up Omnibus in 2009.  Why is that?  HARRY REID and that “half black Hawaian’s” decrepid leadership and their lack of will to reduce spending.  If it was wrong during the Bush Cheney years, it’s above and beyond now.

You sure know how to talk like a Nazi, or a Taliban Mullah.

Some of them are middle class in the social sense and some of them are quite educated but most of them are unemployed and don’t have two pennies to rub together.  About a third of them are homeless people, the older folks are mostly working class and maybe a few teachers and other folks you might call middle class.  The upper middle class trust fund hippie stereotype doesn’t really apply to occupy for the most part, this is not a save the whales single issue type of thing, it is also not “liberal” or particularly sympathetic to the Democratic party, this is a much bigger more holistic movement tapping into people hopes dreams and angers.  This movement ends up uniting that white kid who got out of college and suddenly can’t find a job with that black kid whose family has been dealing with poverty and unemployment for generations, and actually a lot of elderly people are involved too.  Its not always easy there are a lot of class race issues and internal conflicts people butting heads etc but ultimately also a lot of people getting along and coming together.  I just saw this clip, I saw the flare and the person who was throwing it was being stupid but I didn’t see this brick, I saw what looked like a piece of paper, is that the brick?  There aren’t a whole lot of loose bricks floating around Seattle and I don’t think anyone bought a brick and/or carried it all the way down there to throw it at a cop.  Bricks are heavy and we’re supposed to be a bunch of lazy hippies right.  I am against all protester violence but lets face it, it pales in comparison to the brutal chemical and highly expensive violence coming from our countries big police forces, apparently with the backing of homeland security and the big three banks who have been “donating” police departments cash.  In the end police violence only galvanizes the movement and brings attention to the cause.  Its basically a very dumb way to suppress a movement.