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Juan Williams: Media Matters ‘Ruins People’s Lives’ Over Political Disagreements

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Juan Williams appeared on Fox & Friends and told Brian Kilmeade it was laughable that Media Matters is considered a charitable institution when they are dedicated to silencing honest debate. Kilmeade was shocked that Media Matters searches for disgruntled Fox News employees to help with their campaign against the network, and now Williams and other Fox personalities seem ready to fight back.

Williams described the evolution of Media Matters:

“Obviously it’s not an honest watchdog group anymore. They used to monitor the media and point out things that were wrong, false, inappropriate, which is fine, but what you are hearing from Ari Rabin-Havt [Executive Vice President of Media Matters] is that really now they’re involved in opposition research. They are digging up dirt on people. They’re trying to ruin people’s lives and reputation because they disagree with their politics. And, in specific here, what they disagree with is conservative politics and they really don’t like Fox News.”

Williams mentioned that even his former employer NPR may be guilty of only giving one point of view, but that offense is nothing when compared to Media Matters, which sets out to destroy their political opponents. And with many Fox News shows now targeting Media Matters, it seems like a full-scale war between both sides has officially begun.

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  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    hahahahahahahaha. Has Juan forgotten what network he works for?

  • skyfet

    While Fox alienates people they seem odd. E.g. Muslims, Latinos, smart people, middle class people, working class people, Gays and Lesbians, etc.

    While they tolerate, crooks and liars, the crazies, the man ones, the stupid and ignorant, the psychos, wall street thieves (salesmen), etc.

  • teccec

    Being in business to make money via advertising or selling a product isn’t the only kind of business. Media Matters is basically a lobbying activist group. They currently push one agenda very hard and have no interest in facts, fairness, or educating. They exist to attack those who dare not agree with them. There’s no reason to EVER tax payer fund them by letting them lobby tax free. Soros can donate another million or so to pay their share of the taxes they want the rest of us to have to pay.

  • cjd ohio 1

    media matters, we pay no taxes, but you should

  • Perdido

    skyfet, if all the people you listed don’t watch Fox, how are they being alienated?

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    And with many Fox News shows now targeting Media Matters, it seems like a full-scale war between both sides has officially begun.

    Well we know who’s gonna win this war. Not even the Whitehouse won a war with FOX. Will you liberals never learn!?

  • Barry Bonds

    What did that one guy say to the question about why he robs banks?

    Yeah, I think (I know) this applies to Fox News.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Is there a petition online to get rid of their tax-exemption?

    If so, send to ALL CONTACTS – Viral the thing because this group is a real Soros-funded gutter-scum operation of the Takeover-the-Government Left!.

  • Barry Bonds

    Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
    And with many Fox News shows now targeting Media Matters, it seems like a full-scale war between both sides has officially begun. Well we know who’s gonna win this war. Not even the Whitehouse won a war with FOX. Will you liberals never learn!?

    Sorry, guy but FOX waged a war Against Candidate Obama and guess what. He won.

    And in this war what do you make of the Glenn Beck casualty? Hmm.

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    Um Beck wasn’t fired. But I know it makes you libs feel better to think that he was so have at it! And I would refer you, Barry, to the study that showed that FOX was the most fair of ANY network during the election, but don’t let the facts get in your way.

    Hey libbies, any comment to the news that the hacking of FOX was done by liberals? Anyone, anyone?

  • skyfet

    Perdido said:
    skyfet, if all the people you listed don’t watch Fox, how are they being alienated?

    Ask the Muslims about how they fell about Juan Williams, saying he doesn’t feel comfy around them.
    Ask the Gays how they feel about Fox campaign against them.
    Ask the Latinos about the constant jabs which is targeted at the immigrants.

    If by your logic of watching them is true, it means Mediamatters is also supporting Fox by watching them regularly. Nice logic. Watching a psycho lie and pointing out the lies is not the same as supporting.

  • cjd ohio 1

    skyfet said:
    Ask the Muslims about how they fell about Juan Williams, saying he doesn’t feel comfy around them.Ask the Gays how they feel about Fox campaign against them.Ask the Latinos about the constant jabs which is targeted at the immigrants. .

    fox doesn’t like immigrants? fox campaigns against gays? wow

  • skyfet

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    fox doesn’t like immigrants? fox campaigns against gays? wow

    They are big gay supporters, I gathered.

    ahhhh

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    And let’s not forget who provides “credibility” and cover for these attack-dogs – NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, PBS, NY Times…you know the guilty!

    Remember, they deliberately refer to them as “media watchdogs”!

    How do they refer to Brent Bozell’s real media watchdog site?

    How many demonstrable examples do there have to be before you realize:

    You can no longer trust the honesty or integrity of the “mainstreet media”.

  • Barry Bonds

    Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
    Um Beck wasn’t fired. But I know it makes you libs feel better to think that he was so have at it! And I would refer you, Barry, to the study that showed that FOX was the most fair of ANY network during the election, but don’t let the facts get in your way. Hey libbies, any comment to the news that the hacking of FOX was done by liberals? Anyone, anyone?

    Of course he wasn’t fired, and neither was Van Jones. Right?

    Yeah, Brit Hume was very fair with his analysis, as he is to this day.

    And Sean Hannity, very, very fair.

  • Perdido

    skyfet, Muslims are very much against gays. So which ones are you siding with? The Muslims, or the gays?

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    skyfet said:
    They are big gay supporters, I gathered.

    ahhhh

    Sky, you said they have a campaign against gay, Muslims, and Latinos. Feel free to provide evidence.

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    Barry Bonds said:
    Of course he wasn’t fired, and neither was Van Jones. Right?

    Yeah, Brit Hume was very fair with his analysis, as he is to this day.

    And Sean Hannity, very, very fair.

    Van was gone in the dead of night, like Olberdork. Beck remained on the air for months and didn’t renew his contract because he wanted out of NYC and headed to TX. If you have proof he was fired, please provide it.

  • George C

    skyfet said:
    Watching a psycho lie and pointing out the lies is not the same as supporting.

    Exactly !! Reading your lies and pointing out your insanity hardly means its supported.
    Hence wobbling joker ahhhhhhhh
    Where’s my 501c ?

  • cjd ohio 1

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    fox doesn’t like immigrants? fox campaigns against gays? wow

    Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
    Sky, you said they have a campaign against gay, Muslims, and Latinos. Feel free to provide evidence.

    sky needs no proof, he just knows

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
    Sky, you said they have a campaign against gay, Muslims, and Latinos. Feel free to provide evidence.

    Read above, I can’t repeat myself.

  • skyfet

    George C said:
    Exactly !! Reading your lies and pointing out your insanity hardly means its supported.
    Hence wobbling joker ahhhhhhhh
    Where’s my 501c ?

    Seek help, This is not normal.

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    skyfet said:
    Read above, I can’t repeat myself.

    Repeat what, you never provided any evidence, just wild accusations.

  • Perdido

    skyfet, Fox has said they’re against people entering the country illegally. Could you provide some quotes where they’ve said they’re against legal immigration?

  • cjd ohio 1

    Perdido said:
    skyfet, Fox has said they’re against people entering the country illegally. Could you provide some quotes where they’ve said they’re against legal immigration?

    skyfet does not know there is a difference

  • George C

    skyfet said:
    Seek help, This is not normal.

    skyfet said:
    Read above, I can’t repeat myself.</blockquote

    I'm fascinated by your countries use of grammar . Tell me more .

  • skyfet

    George C said:

    Oops Fail. I guess someone needs help on how to use the Quote function.

    Lesson: You don’t type inside the quote, get it?

  • Perdido

    Speaking of quotes, skyfet, do you have those quotes where Fox said they’re against legal immigration?

  • TangledThorns

    Yeah, I may contact the IRS about MM’s tax exemption. MM is a corrupt organization.

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    Sky is feverishly searching MM and the Daily Kos for proof of his accusations.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Perdido said:
    Speaking of quotes, skyfet, do you have those quotes where Fox said they’re against legal immigration?

    skyfet does not let facts get in the way of what he thinks, c’mon people

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
    Sky is feverishly searching MM and the Daily Kos for proof of his accusations.

    I’m not searching for anything, It means you think Fox loves gay. I’d like you to repeat these words: Fox Loves GAY.
    Fox Loves Muslims. etc.

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    HAHA, thanks for admitting you have no proof and were once again pulling things out of your arse.

  • skyfet

    Perdido said:
    Speaking of quotes, skyfet, do you have those quotes where Fox said they’re against legal immigration?

    Listen to O’reiley and get back to me. The only one at odds, well one of those is the owner himself (Murdoch). But he is an immigrant, so I recognized the bias.

  • newzmaker

    For the past 2 years or so, I’ve been following numerous foreign media outlets, in order to get a more fair and balanced view, of current events in the US. As an American, I am 100% embarrassed that the majority of American media outlets, have evolved into full-time political activists. How did this happen? I have no interest at all, in following any news source, simply because a source tells me what I want to hear, as oposed to telling the truth. I prefer to hear all sides, in order to form my own opinions. When the far left, especially on political blogs, actually brag and believe that they are all ‘Einsteins’, because their favorite political source tells them what they want to hear, as opposed to the actual truth, how dumb-assed can they be? Talk about simple-minded idiots.

  • George C

    skyfet said:
    I’m not searching for anything, It means you think Fox loves gay. I’d like you to repeat these words: Fox Loves GAY.
    Fox Loves Muslims. etc.

    Christiane Amanpour is now teaching ESL on sundays . just , uhhh , ya know , sayin ‘ .

  • ChrisNH

    We need to ‘ACORN’ Media Matters; I hope they get destroyed, one way or the other.

  • Perdido

    Well, skyfet, if O’Reilly has said he’s against legal immigration, it should be easy to provide a quote. Come on. Just one.

  • skyfet

    George C said:
    Christiane Amanpour is now teaching ESL on sundays . just , uhhh , ya know , sayin ‘ .

    You learnt how to use the ‘Quote’ functions now. Don’t forget to thank me.

    You are welcome.

    ahhhhhhh

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roy-de-Placitas/100002281600821 Roy de Placitas

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    And let’s not forget who provides “credibility” and cover for these attack-dogs – NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, PBS, NY Times…you know the guilty!

    Remember, they deliberately refer to them as “media watchdogs”!

    How do they refer to Brent Bozell’s real media watchdog site?

    How many demonstrable examples do there have to be before you realize:

    You can no longer trust the honesty or integrity of the “mainstreet media”.

    Everyone should refer to Bozell’s propaganda house as several turds that make a big POS..

    Have just one story that originated with any mainstream corporate media outlets that has distorted a story and used highly deceptively edited tapes that come remotely similar to the FALSE attack on. ACORN?.

    As Corbert so famously and accurately pointed out on several occasions: Truth has such a liberal bias.

  • skyfet

    Here is a sample from your beloved mediamatters.

    http://mediamatters.org/research/201106220017

    Its fact, their own words, lets see how you’d twist it.

    ahhhhhh

  • Perdido

    skyfet, Muslims don’t like gays. So why are you defending them? Are you also anti-gay?

  • teccec

    Barry Bonds said:
    Sorry, guy but FOX waged a war Against Candidate Obama and guess what. He won.

    And in this war what do you make of the Glenn Beck casualty? Hmm.

    Except post election a review was done and found Fox was roughly 50/50 on positive to negative stories on Obama, all while the other network were something like 75/25 negative towards McCain. Just because you watched or heard about Hannity’s show doesn’t mean the whole network piled on Obama. The race looked roughly 50/50 until the financial crisis hit and McCain ran around like a chicken with his head cut off while Obama acted like a leading Senator and presumed President. Obama’s behavior the last few weeks of the campaign was fantastic, McCain’s was embarrassing. If McCain hadn’t imploded on the financial issues it might have been a closer race, but hard to tell. There was a lot of excitement around Obama’s campaign but the only excitement on the McCain side was for Palin. McCain showing he was out of touch on the financial issues was a death blow.

  • http://capitolcommentary.com Harrison Price

    All I know is according to Redeye they rub lotion on each other’s backs and George Soros is mean to them if they miss a shift.

  • cjd ohio 1

    skyfet said:
    Here is a sample from your beloved mediamatters. http://mediamatters.org/research/201106220017 Its fact, their own words, lets see how you’d twist it. ahhhhhh

    illegal is a loaded term lol

  • Perdido

    Yes, the term illegal can be taken so many ways. It takes Media Matters to decode what Fox is ‘really’ talking about.

  • skyfet

    Perdido said:
    skyfet, Muslims don’t like gays. So why are you defending them? Are you also anti-gay?

    Ask Fox, They hate them all.

  • Perdido

    Doesn’t make sense, skyfet. If Muslims hate gays, and Fox criticizes Muslims, wouldn’t that make them pro-gay?

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    Sky, you are embarrassing yourself more than usual this morning.

  • Kitsune

    Perdido said:
    skyfet, Muslims don’t like gays. So why are you defending them? Are you also anti-gay?

    I’ll never quite understand the disconnect on why Militant Atheists are OK with Militant Islam, but want even the mildest traces of anything Jesus to be wiped from the earth.

    I’m an agnostic, and don’t really trust any scripture at all, and I’m really not sure how these militant atheists expect homosexuality and The Shari’ah to co-exist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roy-de-Placitas/100002281600821 Roy de Placitas

    Mark over at Newscorpse has 2 terrific articles on the Fux freaks attack on Media Matters.. I though his comments were right on point and I couldn’t make them any better:

    “Obviously Fox is scared. They are afraid that Media Matters’ practice of documenting Fox’s own words and pictures is having a detrimental effect on the network. They are afraid that the successful campaign against Glenn Beck will continue to reveal that Fox News is a bastion of lies, racism, and partisan propaganda. And so Fox has embarked on a mission to destroy Media Matters with all the weight of their vast media empire….

    “Because Fox News is scared. They are scared of the truth. They are scared that more people will discover that they are a network that peddles garbage and partisan tripe. And as an enterprise with zero journalistic credibility, Fox News has good reason to be afraid. An organization like Media Matters that merely records and replays the lies and bias on Fox News is certain to be their worst enemy.”
    http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=4793

  • Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

    Yeah Roy, FOX seems terrified! NOT!

  • jddoubleu

    if you read skyfet’s posts in mickey rooney’s “breakfast at tiffanys” voice it makes more sense

  • Skippy

    What a pathetic clown, Juan Williams!

    Media Matters DOCUMENTS with clips, both video and sound, the garbage spewed by the wingnutz, most of the time without any editorializing.

    On the times when Media Matters writes articles, they are also supported by academics on the topics discussed.

    Like you, Juan Williams and Billdo – soiling yourselves at the sight of anyone on Muslim garb -

    What, the 9-11 terrorists where wearing “Muslim garb,” you morons!

  • Ken_H

    Those idiots at MMFA wanted a war and now FNC seems ready to take it to them.

  • Perdido

    Media Matters serves the same function as a decoder ring found in cereal boxes. Fox says they’re against people entering the country illegally. But Media Matters translates that into “We hate all immigrants.” If it weren’t for Media Matters decoding, people would never know.

  • George C

    skyfet said:
    You learnt how to use the ‘Quote’ functions now. Don’t forget to thank me.

    Learning to use my Flyer would be a more acurate statement .

    skyfet said:
    Ask Fox, They hate them all.

    skyfet said:
    Seek help, This is not normal.

    skyfet said:
    Read above, I can’t repeat myself.

    This week , on This Week Does ESL ( it’s a working title ) , Christiane Amanpour will have on Helen Thomas to discuss capitaliztion and punctuation . Set your Tivo .

  • Ken_H

    Skippy said:
    What a pathetic clown, Juan Williams!

    Media Matters DOCUMENTS with clips, both video and sound, the garbage spewed by the wingnutz, most of the time without any editorializing.

    On the times when Media Matters writes articles, they are also supported by academics on the topics discussed.

    Like you, Juan Williams and Billdo – soiling yourselves at the sight of anyone on Muslim garb -

    What, the 9-11 terrorists where wearing “Muslim garb,” you morons!

    Actually they quite often use edited and out of context material.

  • Perdido

    Skippy is sticking up for Muslims. He obviously hates gays.

  • Skippy

    Ken_H said:
    Actually they quite often use edited and out of context material.

    Is that what the Baboon, Billdo, the trio of clowns in the morning, and now Juan – I soil myself on airplanes – told you?

  • Skippy

    Perdido said:
    Skippy is sticking up for Muslims. He obviously hates gays.

    Loser,

    can you recognize a Muslim by the garb? Do you soil yourself on airplanes too?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
    And with many Fox News shows now targeting Media Matters, it seems like a full-scale war between both sides has officially begun.

    Well we know who’s gonna win this war. Not even the Whitehouse won a war with FOX. Will you liberals never learn!?

    How’s that war with jon stewart going btw? lol

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Maybe Fox should boycott France and go to war with rap some more because those campaigns worked GREAT!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Bennett/660327155 Tom Bennett

    Juan Williams is just the current token black and token
    liberal on that joke of a network. He’s an Uncle Tom.

  • jddoubleu

    with people like this on the payroll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-U6cMdpKmY MM cant lose, right?

  • Perdido

    I didn’t mention their garb, Skippy. I was wondering how the left keeps ignoring that Muslims are anti-gay.

  • jddoubleu

    Tom Bennett said:
    Juan Williams is just the current token black and token
    liberal on that joke of a network. He’s an Uncle Tom.

    oh look its eric boehlert’s feltching buddy…

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Perdido said:
    I didn’t mention their garb, Skippy. I was wondering how the left keeps ignoring that Muslims are anti-gay.

    So are most people on the right. Let’s get rid of those guys too!!!!!

  • Ken_H

    Skippy said:
    Is that what the Baboon, Billdo, the trio of clowns in the morning, and now Juan – I soil myself on airplanes – told you?

    Just the facts. They are political activists, not watchdogs. Watch them lose their tax exemption very soon.

  • Perdido

    Reasonable, I didn’t say get rid of anyone. But defending Muslims and gays all in the same post seems a bit at odds.

  • Ken_H

    Tom Bennett said:
    Juan Williams is just the current token black and token
    liberal on that joke of a network. He’s an Uncle Tom.

    Typical libtard blather for those that don’t drink your Kool-Aid

  • Skippy

    Perdido said:
    I didn’t mention their garb, Skippy. I was wondering how the left keeps ignoring that Muslims are anti-gay.

    Only Muslims?

    Have you heard of buyble thumpers against Gays?

    That doesn’t mean the Progressives approve of many Muslim things, moron.

    I am pointing out the STUPIDITY of wingnutz, Billdo’s and Williams’, for the remarks that got Juan fired.

  • Perdido

    But Skippy, when saying that someone is anti-gay, you always seem to leave the Muslims out.

  • ChrisNH

    Skippy said:
    On the times when Media Matters writes articles, they are also supported by academics on the topics discussed.

    Ooooooo…’Academics.’ Ooooooo….well, THAT will silence everyone (roll eyes).

  • Skippy

    Ken_H said:
    Just the facts. They are political activists, not watchdogs. Watch them lose their tax exemption very soon.

    I suppose you feel the same way about James O’keefe.

    What’s that word,,, what’s that word…

  • Perdido

    O’Keefe gets a tax ememption?

  • Skippy

    Perdido said:
    But Skippy, when saying that someone is anti-gay, you always seem to leave the Muslims out.

    I do?

    When did I do that, you imbecile?

    Next you are going to play the horribly prosecuted buyble thumper. Gretchen Carlson and Billdo love to do that.

  • Ken_H

    Skippy said:
    I suppose you feel the same way about James O’keefe.

    What’s that word,,, what’s that word…

    O’Keefe is a jackass, but he does bring out libs true agendas pretty well.

  • Skippy

    Perdido said:
    O’Keefe gets a tax ememption?

    See how you don’t know jack and you are just running your trap off?

  • Perdido

    Right, Skippy. I’ve noticed how you’re always railing against Koran thumpers, too.

  • Perdido

    Skippy, you were the one comparing Media Matters to O’Keefe.

  • Skippy

    Ken_H said:
    O’Keefe is a jackass, but he does bring out libs true agendas pretty well.

    And guess what Media Matters does.

    BTW, does not limit itself to Fux. They also go after Limpo and every other wingnut spewing stupidity.

    Also, it is not only Media Matters. There is Think Progress, News Hounds, Crooks and Liars, Daily KOS, Talking Points Memo, the Huffo, The Young Turks, Olby, and a whole bunch of other bloggers too.

  • http://activitypit.ning.com/profile/massmurdermedia MASSMURDERMEDIA

    Barry Bonds said:
    Sorry, guy but FOX waged a war Against Candidate Obama and guess what. He won.

    teccec said:
    Except post election a review was done and found Fox was roughly 50/50 on positive to negative stories on Obama, all while the other network were something like 75/25 negative towards McCain. Just because you watched or heard about Hannity’s show doesn’t mean the whole network piled on Obama.

    i saw that review, it was by pew research… apparently, if you’re a disciple of the messiah, asking him tough, fair questions constitutes waging war… if anybody waged war, it was obviously the left, and particularly msnbc, based on their 3:1 ratio of negative vs positive stories on mccain…

  • Skippy

    Loser,

    FYI, I am NOT a religious person.

    You know why, because I’ve witnessed the monumental IGNORANCE of buyble thumpers. And I am well aware of the barbaric acts of ANY cult.

  • Skippy

    O’keefe’s Project Veritas HAS NOW a tax exemption, you moron!

  • cjd ohio 1

    Skippy said:
    O’keefe’s Project Veritas HAS NOW a tax exemption, you moron!

    and you approve of course

  • skyfet

    Perdido said:
    Doesn’t make sense, skyfet. If Muslims hate gays, and Fox criticizes Muslims, wouldn’t that make them pro-gay?

    Doesn’t make any sense at all.

    Fox marginalize the Muslims and Gays. Yet they are polar opposite.

    Doesn’t that show how psychotic the people who run Fox are.

  • seek

    Skippy said:
    Loser,

    FYI, I am NOT a religious person.

    You know why, because I’ve witnessed the monumental IGNORANCE of buyble thumpers. And I am well aware of the barbaric acts of ANY cult.

    …and because your hate does not allow others to believe. You have to spread your hate. Good one skippy!
    Why don’t you let people who don’t think like you do alone? Is it any skin off your nose if you are an atheist and they’re not?

    Didn’t think so.

    See, I don’t particularly care if you are a believer or not – makes no never mind in my world. Try to extend the same courtesy to others.

  • Perdido

    Skippy, I’ve noticed that you’re always slamming Muslim intolerance. Especially that Nation of Islam group. Try to tone down your anger against them.

  • Ken_H

    Skippy said:
    And guess what Media Matters does.

    BTW, does not limit itself to Fux. They also go after Limpo and every other wingnut spewing stupidity.

    Also, it is not only Media Matters. There is Think Progress, News Hounds, Crooks and Liars, Daily KOS, Talking Points Memo, the Huffo, The Young Turks, Olby, and a whole bunch of other bloggers too.

    The others supposedly pay taxes though, right???MMFA should not be allowed to keep their exemption since they are an active arm of the DNC by any accurate view.

  • Perdido

    So skyfet, if Muslims and gays are polar opposites, which side are you taking?

  • Skippy

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    and you approve of course

    Of course I don’t – Because of the garbage he peddles.

    Did you hear about his Dildo Boat? Quite classy investigative journalism, right?

    How about this one:

    Magistrate Judge Daniel Knowles III sentenced Stan Dai, Joseph Basel and Robert Flanagan each to two years probation, a fine of $1,500 and 75 hours of community service during their first year of probation.

    James O’Keefe, as leader of the group and famous for posing as a pimp in ACORN office videos, received three years of probation, a fine of $1,500 and 100 hours of community service.

    Each of the defendants made a statement to the court. They said they did not intend to commit a crime They also apologized for the inconvenience they caused security workers at the federal building.

    O’Keefe said “I take full responsibility for our decision to visit Sen. Landrieu’s office.” Referring to their decision to pose as telephone workers in order to investigate complaints that office staff members allegedly ignored constituents’ phone calls, he said “I should have used other means.”

  • SuperStar

    George C said:
    This week , on This Week Does ESL ( it’s a working title ) , Christiane Amanpour will have on Helen Thomas to discuss capitaliztion and punctuation . Set your Tivo .

    Heh heh heh

  • cjd ohio 1

    Skippy said:
    Of course I don’t – Because of the garbage he peddles. Did you hear about his Dildo Boat? Quite classy investigative journalism, right? How about this one:

    so then you believe media matters should pay taxes just like you think okeefe should

  • Perdido

    Skippy, in an interview with O’Reilly, the rapper Lupe called Obama a terrorist, and O’Reilly disagreed with Lupe. And you say O’Reilly lies. So you agree with Lupe’s assessment?

  • Skippy

    seek said:
    …and because your hate does not allow others to believe. You have to spread your hate. Good one skippy!
    Why don’t you let people who don’t think like you do alone? Is it any skin off your nose if you are an atheist and they’re not?

    Didn’t think so.

    See, I don’t particularly care if you are a believer or not – makes no never mind in my world. Try to extend the same courtesy to others.

    You mean others like in Muslims, right?

  • skyfet

    Perdido said:
    So skyfet, if Muslims and gays are polar opposites, which side are you taking?

    I’m against those who malign them e.g. Fox.

  • Skippy

    Perdido said:
    Skippy, I’ve noticed that you’re always slamming Muslim intolerance. Especially that Nation of Islam group. Try to tone down your anger against them.

    Right after you show your support for Gay marriage.

    Go!

  • Perdido

    Skippy especially hates the intolerance of the Nation of Islam. It makes him so mad, he can’t even bring himself to ever mention it.

  • Ken_H

    You can look at Brock and tell he probably has secrets involving little boys. Maybe FNC should give him some scrutiny.

  • skyfet

    Ken_H said:
    You can look at Brock and tell he probably has secrets involving little boys. Maybe FNC should give him some scrutiny.

    You were probably his partner in crime to know all these details.

  • Perdido

    Skippy, I couldn’t care less what consenting adults do if it’s not hurting anyone. Sorry to disappoint you.

  • Skippy

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    so then you believe media matters should pay taxes just like you think okeefe should

    I don’t know what the IRS basis is.

    What I do know, is that Fux has been going after MM for years, and Media Matters is not anywhere as slimy as Fux or some other wingnutz like Braysfarts or Pat Robertson.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Skippy said:
    I don’t know what the IRS basis is. What I do know, is that Fux has been going after MM for years, and Media Matters is not anywhere as slimy as Fux or some other wingnutz like Braysfarts or Pat Robertson.

    nice dodge, i didnt ask the irs the question

  • Skippy

    Perdido said:
    Skippy, I couldn’t care less what consenting adults do if it’s not hurting anyone. Sorry to disappoint you.

    I could care less if you believe I ought to be screaming my head off because YOU don’t like Muslims.

    Just like buyble thumpers who cannot tolerate Gays. To me, they are both full of it.

  • Perdido

    In a roundabout way, I think Skippy is agreeing that Media Matters should be taxed.

  • jddoubleu

    skippy is going to have an aneurysm…

  • Perdido

    So Skippy, you say Muslims are also ‘full of it’, then say I’m the one who doesn’t like them. By saying they’re full of it, doesn’t that indicate you don’t like them?

  • Skippy

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    nice dodge, i didnt ask the irs the question

    I don’t know HOW James O’Keefe got HIS tax exemption. I don’t know HOW Media Matters mantains its exemption.
    But I do see the difference in SIZE of the organization, their means of delivery, and amount of money spent.

    I don’t know how the IRS arrives at their conclusion.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Skippy said:
    I don’t know HOW James O’Keefe got HIS tax exemption. I don’t know HOW Media Matters mantains its exemption.But I do see the difference in SIZE of the organization, their means of delivery, and amount of money spent. I don’t know how the IRS arrives at their conclusion.

    but you dont approve of okeefe’s tax exemption, do you approve of media matters tax exemption?

  • Skippy

    Perdido said:
    So Skippy, you say Muslims are also ‘full of it’, then say I’m the one who doesn’t like them. By saying they’re full of it, doesn’t that indicate you don’t like them?

    No, Loser.

    You started bit chin about “Muslims don’t like Gays” like that is the topic at hand. But even there you show your incompetent non-sequiturs, like Billdo and Juan Williams did.

  • http://activitypit.ning.com/profile/massmurdermedia MASSMURDERMEDIA

    skyfet said: Fox marginalize the Muslims and Gays. Doesn’t that show how psychotic the people who run Fox are.

    fox news marginalizes gays by installing shepard smith in prime time as anchor of the “fox report”… he’s been cited by “out” magazine as #6 on their list of the 50 most powerful gay men… so if what you say is true, then that makes smith the psychotic, not fox news…

  • Perdido

    Skippy, I was trying to get an answer from skyfet. He said Fox is against Muslims and gays. So I merely reminded him that Muslims are against gays. And Skippy, since Billdo disagreed with Lupe when he called Obama a terrorist, which one do you agree with?

  • Skippy

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    but you dont approve of okeefe’s tax exemption, do you approve of media matters tax exemption?

    Application for Recognition of Exemption

    To apply for recognition by the IRS of exempt status under section 501(c)(3) of the Code, use Form 1023, Application for Recognition of Exemption, and its instructions. The application must be complete and accompanied by the appropriate user fee. See Application Process for a step-by-step review of what an organization needs to know and to do in order to apply for recognition by the IRS of tax-exempt status. Frequently asked questions about applying for exemption generally, and Form 1023 specifically, are also available. You may also want to take our on-line mini-course about applying for exemption.

    The organization should also request an employer identification number, even if it does not have any employees. See Form SS-4, Application for Employer Identification Number, and its related instructions to learn how to obtain an EIN. You may also obtain an EIN via telephone, by calling 1-800-829-4933, or by applying online.

    Except for churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and public charities whose annual gross receipts are normally less than $5,000, organizations will not be treated as described in section 501(c)(3) unless they notify the IRS by applying for recognition of section 501(c)(3) status. Generally, organizations required to apply for recognition of exemption must notify the Service within 27 months from the date of their formation to be treated as described in section 501(c)(3) from the date formed. When the IRS determines that an organization qualifies for exemption under section 501(c)(3), it will also be classified as a private foundation, unless it meets the requirements to be treated as a public charity.

    A charitable organization must make available for public inspection its approved application for recognition of exemption with all supporting documents and its last three annual information returns. The organization must provide copies of these documents upon request without charge (other than a reasonable fee for reproduction and copying costs). Penalties are provided for failure to comply with these requirements. For more information, see our frequently asked questions, the final regulations published in Internal Revenue Bulletin 1999-17, or Disclosure Requirements.

    I am NOT going to wade through THAT, neither to defend Media Matters or condemn O’Keefe.

    My condemnation of O’Keefe is because he is a scumbag. I guess the IRS doesn’t look at that detail.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Skippy said:
    I am NOT going to wade through THAT, neither to defend Media Matters or condemn O’Keefe. My condemnation of O’Keefe is because he is a scumbag. I guess the IRS doesn’t look at that detail.

    afraid to take a stand, its ok skippy……..

  • Skippy

    Perdido said:
    Skippy, I was trying to get an answer from skyfet. He said Fox is against Muslims and gays. So I merely reminded him that Muslims are against gays. And Skippy, since Billdo disagreed with Lupe when he called Obama a terrorist, which one do you agree with?

    1) Fox does attack Muslims AND Gays, and those horrible dogless LEFTISTS! and on and on. Depends on the fake outrage of the day.

    2) Billdo was right. Lupe is another loud mouth moron. What? You want me to defend him now?

  • Perdido

    I get it Skippy. While you’re outraged at both the Fox and the Nation of Islam stand on gays, you choose to only criticize Fox for it, and mention the others as little as possible. Or not at all.

  • Skippy

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    afraid to take a stand, its ok skippy……..

    Well, then YOU wade through THAT and tell us WHY Media Matters should lose their tax exemption.

    Here, knock yourself out.

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/rr2007-41.pdf

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Roy de Placitas said:
    Everyone should refer to Bozell’s propaganda house as several turds that make a big POS.. Have just one story that originated with any mainstream corporate media outlets that has distorted a story and used highly deceptively edited tapes that come remotely similar to the FALSE attack on. ACORN?. As Corbert so famously and accurately pointed out on several occasions: Truth has such a liberal bias.

    For your edification, the FULL tape was always on Breitbart – it’s YOUR Left-Wing Media that missed it…and then COVERED-UP their ineptitude by refusing to report that indeed, the full tape was always on Beitbart!

    As for media matters, there’s just so many indictments of this ACORN-like tool of the Revolutionary-Left, that you can find them easily enough on your own.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Skippy said:
    Well, then YOU wade through THAT and tell us WHY Media Matters should lose their tax exemption. Here, knock yourself out. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/rr2007-41.pdf

    you disapprove of okeefe’s tax exemption, but media matters tax exemption you wont comment on lol, its ok to be afraid skippy relax

  • Kitsune

    Perdido said:
    I get it Skippy. While you’re outraged at both the Fox and the Nation of Islam stand on gays, you choose to only criticize Fox for it, and mention the others as little as possible. Or not at all.

    Being a progressive means always getting to have it both ways.

  • Skippy

    Perdido said:
    I get it Skippy. While you’re outraged at both the Fox and the Nation of Islam stand on gays, you choose to only criticize Fox for it, and mention the others as little as possible. Or not at all.

    I already said I don’t give a flying F if Muslims or buyble thumpers believe THEIR religion tells them to punish Gays.

    The issue with Fux is they are a wingnut delivery channel. Not NEWS, but POLITICAL PROPAGANDA.
    This has been proven over and over by Media Matters and other blogs, even by the Daily Show. With video.

  • Skippy

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    you disapprove of okeefe’s tax exemption, but media matters tax exemption you wont comment on lol, its ok to be afraid skippy relax

    I already told you I don’t know how the process works to qualify for a 501 c (3) tax exemption.

    Those quotes I posted are from the IRS site and other of their links.

    So I am NOT going to stick my foot in my mouth by claiming so and so over something I don’t understand.

    Are you?

  • cjd ohio 1

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    you disapprove of okeefe’s tax exemption, but media matters tax exemption you wont comment on lol, its ok to be afraid skippy relax

    Skippy said:
    I already told you I don’t know how the process works to qualify for a 501 c (3) tax exemption. Those quotes I posted are from the IRS site and other of their links. So I am NOT going to stick my foot in my mouth by claiming so and so over something I don’t understand. Are you?

    just admit you answered the question about okeefe, but are to afraid to answer the same question about media matters its ok i understand

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Skippy said:
    I don’t know what the IRS basis is. What I do know, is that Fux has been going after MM for years, and Media Matters is not anywhere as slimy as Fux or some other wingnutz like Braysfarts or Pat Robertson.

    Dems just make it so easy when one earlier post can be referenced over-and-over again to crush the predictable responses of tortured logic and ad hominem rantings coming from the Socialist-Left.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    An indoctrinated mind is a terrible thing to waste; set yourself free, Freak:

    The definition of “The GOP” is amorphous at the present moment.

    The Tea Party sentiment – and not the myopic media depiction of it – of less-intrusive government, and more personal responsibility, is advocated by a controlling majority of voters in the country.

    All Tea Party candidates have to do next year is to bring that unifying philosophy to the GOP.

    Obama turned out to be a shill for the status-quo, but instead of the Lincoln Bedroom, he paid-off supporters with private auto companies, and the like.

    How’s Wall Street making out under Obama?
    How are you making out?

    He brought corruption to a higher level, with the same gaggle of people in charge that Bush had!

  • cjd ohio 1

    Skippy said:
    I already told you I don’t know how the process works to qualify for a 501 c (3) tax exemption. Those quotes I posted are from the IRS site and other of their links. So I am NOT going to stick my foot in my mouth by claiming so and so over something I don’t understand. Are you?

    you stated your opinion on okeefe’s tax exemption, but media matters you have no opinion lol

  • CosmosDan

    I don’t know what the law states but I tend to agree that if you change your mission from neutral fact checking to going after one political view, and a particular network, then your tax exempt status needs to be looked at.

    That said, Hey Fox, stop with the whining. You’ve spent years going after individuals and haven’t shown much concern for honest debate. Seems like a good example of what Jon S pointed out recently. When they do it it’s telling the whole story, when someone calls them out suddenly they’re the victim and those other guys are racist , and political activists, and mean, and unfair, and self loathing, and whatever. It’s pathetic that they call themselves news.

  • Kitsune

    Skippy said:
    I already told you I don’t know how the process works to qualify for a 501 c (3) tax exemption. Those quotes I posted are from the IRS site and other of their links. So I am NOT going to stick my foot in my mouth by claiming so and so over something I don’t understand. Are you?

    I think the idea is to not play the same old “I’m only going to attack the people I don’t like, and let the people I do get off on a technicality, even if they _might_ be wrong too.” game, picking the same old tired fights, making the same old tired sweeping generalizations.

  • CosmosDan

    Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972
    Hey libbies, any comment to the news that the hacking of FOX was done by liberals? Anyone, anyone?

    Oh the horror. You mean people sometimes do unethical things and make bad judgement calls? I had no idea.

  • Skippy

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    you stated your opinion on okeefe’s tax exemption, but media matters you have no opinion lol

    I said I don’t know how O’Keefe got his tax exemption. I said maybe you can be a scumbag and still qualify, maybe the IRS doesn’t take that into consideration.

    By the way, Billdo is always whining about “smears from the far left (Media Matters)” when they capture and show clips of wingnutz idiocy.

    That’s sooooo unfair!

  • Greg

    Juan made an interesting leap which led to the baseless charge that M.M. is “trying to ruin” people’s lives. If holding people accountable for word’s and deeds leads to ruination, it is absurd to blame those who are public witness. FNC can raise a grand hubbub and I certainly hope they enjoy their flailing and sloppy assault… But it is ackward to watch.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Skippy said:
    O’keefe’s Project Veritas HAS NOW a tax exemption, you moron!

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    and you approve of course

    Skippy said:
    Of course I don’t – Because of the garbage he peddles. Did you hear about his Dildo Boat? Quite classy investigative journalism, right? How about this one:

    yeah , no opinion there lol, now move along chickenshit

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    The irony of Fox saying this is almost unbearable.

  • Skippy

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    yeah , no opinion there lol, now move along chickenshit

    What did I just say?

    26 May 2010

    James O’Keefe, as leader of the group and famous for posing as a pimp in ACORN office videos, received three years of probation, a fine of $1,500 and 100 hours of community service.

    I don’t know HOW someone in PROBATION can receive a tax exemption from the IRS.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Skippy said:
    What did I just say?

    i said you approve of course, you said of course i don’t

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    Juan knows, because he’s the victim of Media Matter’s crusade to silence anyone who doesnt tow the Democrat party line. I think Krauthammer hit the nail on the head during a discussion of the topic on PBS.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2gG-vOlnio

    Listen to the responses given to Krauthammer’s questions. This is a brilliant example of why our media is so biased. These people are complete hypocrites and seem incapable of seeing it it. Look at how Nina just stares at the table as she gives her response. She knows its total bullshit. Maybe she had never even thought about it before and had no idea how to respond without incriminating herself and NPR. That’s part of the problem. An inability to consistently apply their own standards.

  • Stratdude

    Fox sewer republician propagandists, fake journalists, liars and sophists shitting little green apples because they are being called out for the bare-faced lie that they are a part of a news organization.

  • jim bronson 990cc

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    An indoctrinated mind is a terrible thing to waste; set yourself free, Freak: The definition of “The GOP” is amorphous at the present moment. The Tea Party sentiment – and not the myopic media depiction of it – of less-intrusive government, and more personal responsibility, is advocated by a controlling majority of voters in the country. All Tea Party candidates have to do next year is to bring that unifying philosophy to the GOP. Obama turned out to be a shill for the status-quo, but instead of the Lincoln Bedroom, he paid-off supporters with private auto companies, and the like. How’s Wall Street making out under Obama?How are you making out? He brought corruption to a higher level, with the same gaggle of people in charge that Bush had!

    From the voice of experience…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Woodburn/1072268975 Terry Woodburn

    Ho hum…. the latest FOX NEWS marching orders. “Who should we lamely attempt to take down this week”?

    Guys, if you are going to attempt to, you might want to bring out heavier hitters than the lightweights, Kilmeade and the “liberal” FOX lap dog, Juan Williams. Gotta love this quote from Williams, too. “They are digging up dirt on people. They’re trying to ruin people’s lives and reputation because they disagree with their politics. ”

    mmmm, sounds like a familiar news organization we know who has long practiced on-air character assassination, all under the lame banner, “fair and balanced”.

    Lame, lame, lame, more of the same, same, same.

  • HostileLogic

    - Fox News is the most trusted news source in America.
    - Bill O’Reilly is America’s most trusted newsman
    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_126.pdf

    A bitter pill for Progressives…

  • valkyrie101

    Juan said: “They used to monitor the media and point out things that were wrong, false, inappropriate, which is fine, but what you are hearing from Ari Rabin-Havt [Executive Vice President of Media Matters] is that really now they’re involved in opposition research.”

    Fine? When, ever, was http://www.mediamatters.org “fine” as far as Fox News goes? Never. O’Reilly, Hannity, all the boys, have been after it for years, and they advise his listeners to not go there, etc. Yet, mostly, all MM does is provide transcripts and links to incidences of media bias. Sure, they see Fox as the worst offender, and that is their focus, but truth is always a defense to these kind of charges.

    Wondering how you can be in political opposition to a fair and balanced network?

  • The Rock

    Greg said:
    Juan made an interesting leap which led to the baseless charge that M.M. is “trying to ruin” people’s lives. If holding people accountable for word’s and deeds leads to ruination, it is absurd to blame those who are public witness. FNC can raise a grand hubbub and I certainly hope they enjoy their flailing and sloppy assault… But it is ackward to watch.

    Everything you have said is baseless Greg with no facts or proof Madia Matters is smear website that can be sued for there out right lies they shouldn’t be tax exement just religious groups and groups that have agenda like, The PTC since that is a far right outfit that lies about broadcast networks with there baseless claims and there mind in the gutter.

  • Perdido

    When Fox speaks against illegally entering the country, and Media Matters says the term ‘illegal’ is ‘loaded’, that seems more like mind reading than reporting bias.

  • catfishjuggling show

    I am starting to think that Fox News does not like Media Matters. This is a developing story.

  • The Rock

    Stratdude said:
    Fox sewer republician propagandists, fake journalists, liars and sophists shitting little green apples because they are being called out for the bare-faced lie that they are a part of a news organization.

    Your a far left kool-aid drinker that think for themselfs Madia Matters lies about Fox News which is a fact. Your propagandists which you don’t know what it means and there are no fake journalists on Fox News so your claims that there is a lie. So your the bare-faced liar not Fox so have facts or proof and don’t be a sheep for far left and taking your news from Media Matters that doesn’t know what the truth is.

  • J Baustian

    Skippy said:
    What a pathetic clown, Juan Williams!

    Media Matters DOCUMENTS with clips, both video and sound, the garbage spewed by the wingnutz, most of the time without any editorializing.

    On the times when Media Matters writes articles, they are also supported by academics on the topics discussed.

    Like you, Juan Williams and Billdo – soiling yourselves at the sight of anyone on Muslim garb -

    What, the 9-11 terrorists where wearing “Muslim garb,” you morons!

    Juan Williams gets paid by Fox; you get paid by MMFA. The difference is at least an extra digit on the end of his paycheck, before the decimal point.

  • Wisco

    I guess Fox aren’t big fans of the truth.

  • scrzbill

    Media matters takes direct quotes from faux liars and points out how they lie and distort. Their mission statements under which they operate as a non profit distinctly states this is their objective. If you don’t like media matters, show where they lie. Mediate comment section is filled with bone headed remarks by ignorant teabaggers who have been sent here to lie, misinform, distort, and disparage. You cannot find one instance where Media Matters has EVER lied so what you do is call names and write little children. You’re afraid of the truth and that is why you want to silence anyone who dares question the lies of faux. Why is Jon Stweart considered the most trusted name in the news? I feel sorry for you morons.

  • adlerman

    Juam Williams is a pos as is everyone else employed by Faux news.

  • 2012freedom

    Stratdude said:
    Fox sewer republician propagandists, fake journalists, liars and sophists shitting little green apples because they are being called out for the bare-faced lie that they are a part of a news organization.

    Ed Shultz is that you?

  • Greg

    The Rock said:
    Everything you have said is baseless Greg with no facts or proof Madia Matters is smear website that can be sued for there out right lies they shouldn’t be tax exement just religious groups and groups that have agenda like, The PTC since that is a far right outfit that lies about broadcast networks with there baseless claims and there mind in the gutter.

    While your argument is persuasive in some language… I speak English. Please translate and I will be happy to respond!

  • namseer

    The truth hurts. It makes people angry. It drives people mad. ESPECIALLY liars. Media Matters for America (MM) simply tells the truth. MM points out the misinformation, flat-out lies, and fills in the missing information spewed by right-wingers, be they Fox News or hate radio or whoever. Most of the people who complain about MM are hardcore, right-wing a**holes who have NEVER even visited the MM Web site. It must be too much reading for them.

    MM takes, for instance, one of the countless questionable statements of Rush Limbaugh. MM then will research Rush’s statement, verify the statement against factual sources, verify if Rush told the whole story (and if not include what he left out), document instances where Rush has been hypocritical on the subject or has in some other way flip-flopped on the subject, and point out any attempted manipulations by Rush. MM then prepares the report in detail, posts it on the Web, and lets the viewers decide. MM REPORTS and YOU DECIDE!

    Republicans *HATE* what MM does because MM uncovers countless right-wing lies and manipulations. It used to be that the network news departments would do this kind of investigative journalism. The networks don’t do this as much anymore so MM came along to do it for them. They do a brilliant job of it, and they perform a MUCH needed public service.

    Media Matters IS NOT going to lose its tax exempt status. This is just some Fox News designed empty meme. You see, if Republicans CAN’T bully their way to getting what they want, they play the victim card. If playing the victim doesn’t get them what they want, they try to shut-up their “opposition” by any means (no matter how low, dirty, or illegal) possible. The latter is what they think they can do with MM. Or at least what Fox News has them thinking they can do.

    ALL THE REPUBLICANS HAVE TO DO IS TELL THE TRUTH! Then voila! MM would have nothing to report and would go away. But since we all *know* that the Republicans could not exist if they told the truth, we will continue to have a great organization like Media Matters for America who will hold Republicans and other right-wingers accountable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    “ruins peoples’ lives?’ Juan? Whose lives have been ruined by Media Matters? MM skewers the Fox propaganda machine and you don’t like it – in Russian I say tough shitski. If MM is lying, slandering, libeling – then BRING SUIT.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Bill Adkins said:
    “ruins peoples’ lives?’ Juan? Whose lives have been ruined by Media Matters? MM skewers the Fox propaganda machine and you don’t like it – in Russian I say tough shitski. If MM is lying, slandering, libeling – then BRING SUIT.

    BTW, are you sure FIXed News wants to go there, “ruins people’s lives?’ Glenn Beckerhead made a practice of that – don’t recall you speaking up then, Juan.

  • valkyrie101

    catfishjuggling show said:
    I am starting to think that Fox News does not like Media Matters. This is a developing story.

    Yea, developing for years.

  • cja23

    It’s called the Media Matters Obama/Soros Regime “shake down”. Fox isn’t part of the State Run Media team as is lame street media. The White House says jump and the State Run Media says how high. You don’t dare question Obama or have any negatives against him or you’re “on the list”. Journalism is pretty scary stuff these days, if you want to even call it journalism.

  • valkyrie101

    cja23 said:
    It’s called the Media Matters Obama/Soros Regime “shake down”. Fox isn’t part of the State Run Media team as is lame street media. The White House says jump and the State Run Media says how high. You don’t dare question Obama or have any negatives against him or you’re “on the list”. Journalism is pretty scary stuff these days, if you want to even call it journalism.

    Let me guess, is all of this a 2012 end of days scenario?

  • piniella

    Juan Williams is a VERY expensive prostitute – $2 Million a year plus benefits.

  • Zandandido

    Bill Adkins said:
    BTW, are you sure FIXed News wants to go there, “ruins people’s lives?’ Glenn Beckerhead made a practice of that – don’t recall you speaking up then, Juan.

    Just marry Glenn Beck already. Yeesh.

  • valkyrie101

    piniella said:
    Juan Williams is a VERY expensive prostitute – $2 Million a year plus benefits.

    Juan’s a good man. He is just doing his job. I admire Fox for hiring him.

  • 2012freedom

    piniella said:
    Juan Williams is a VERY expensive prostitute – $2 Million a year plus benefits.

    And I am going to guess that you are one of the ones who will scream “racist” at every turn when someone disagrees with Obama?

  • WashingtonOwnsYou

    what the deal with peanuts

  • timcajun

    Fox freaks claim MM is trying to ruin somebodys life, and we thought they didn’t know what “hypocrisy” means!

  • jim bronson 990cc

    Ruin people’s lives? Seems this Ol’ Rup’s boys went beyond ruin:
    http://news.yahoo.com/pressure-murdoch-over-hacking-allegation-100854562.html

  • Arturo_Vandelay

    valkyrie101 said:
    Juan’s a good man. He is just doing his job. I admire Fox for hiring him.

    I’ve always been impressed with Juan. He’s calm and rational. Reacts the same on NPR as he does on FOX. Does a good job supporting a liberal social agenda without being a crazy leftist regarding the economy. It’s almost as if he’s one of the few lefties that is willing to look at some facts regarding the economy and not just someone who panders to the people who want something free from the government. I can’t think of many people I agree with more often, but I never feel like he’s just trying to pander to my emotions. Something people like Ed Schultz, O’Donnell, the new Chris Matthews and so many other people on Williams’ side can’t seem to match. Conservatives could use a few like him on their side. Of course NPR would never hire him then.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    it seems like a full-scale war between both sides has officially begun.

    That tends to happen when a decidedly political organization, led by political operatives, learned character assassins, declares war on an media institution, as Media Matters has. MMFA openly declared war on Fox a few months ago (without fanfare from Mediaite – but there WAS an article making fun of the hat Glenn Beck wore in his on-air response) and has subsequently gone so far as to attack and threaten their advertizing in a bullying manner – not over any particular story, but just because.

    The Administration declared war on Fox in 2009. They were beaten back by the media industry on the whole lining up to support Fox’s access and reputation. Even though they were competitors, the rest of the media industry were offended by Obama using the naked power of the presidency so forcefully against one of their own. That was the political wing’s big mistake. They overstepped, they learned, they adjusted. This is the Administration’s war on Fox – part II, only now through surrogates.

    From the New York article. . .

    [David Brock] recently hired Ilyse Hogue, who, as MoveOn.org’s former director of political advocacy, has plenty of experience with pressure campaigns. “[Media Matters For America] want[s] to drive up the cost of Fox for Rupert Murdoch and the News Corp. board of directors,” Hogue says one day in her office, which is dominated by a large white board containing her team’s latest brainstorms: persuading Alwaleed bin Talal, the Saudi prince who’s the second largest News Corp. shareholder, to divest from the company over Fox’s coverage of Muslims; reaching out to the cast of Glee to protest the news channel; etc.

    Lobbying Hollywood to spread anti-Fox propaganda and targeting Fox stockholders for attack based on identity politics. Media Matters isn’t a media watchdog organization – it’s a political action committee. And a dirty one at that.

  • Mia Kulper

    Juan Williams said:
    [it's] laughable that Media Matters is considered a charitable institution when they are dedicated to silencing honest debate.

    Jeez Juan, that’s just nutsy dittohead talk.

    If you hate Media Matters, make your case but don’t just say stupid stuff like they’re “dedicated to silencing honest debate” because it just makes you look like a moron.

  • Mia Kulper

    teccec said:
    Except post election a review was done and found Fox was roughly 50/50 on positive to negative stories on Obama,

    I’d like to see that review just for the heck of it.

  • Mia Kulper

    Ken_H said:
    Actually they [MM] quite often use edited and out of context material.

    I haven’t seen that but I’ve only been reading the Media Matters website for a few years.

  • Mia Kulper

    Perdido said:
    I didn’t mention their garb, Skippy. I was wondering how the left keeps ignoring that Muslims are anti-gay.

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    So are most people on the right. Let’s get rid of those guys too!!!!!

    LOL

  • Mia Kulper

    Ken_H said:
    Just the facts. They [MM] are political activists, not watchdogs. Watch them lose their tax exemption very soon.

    Skippy said:
    I suppose you feel the same way about James O’keefe.
    What’s that word,,, what’s that word…

    Perdido said:
    O’Keefe gets a tax ememption?

    Skippy said:
    See how you don’t know jack and you are just running your trap off?

    I see what you mean.

  • Mia Kulper

    Ken_H said:
    You can look at Brock and tell he probably has secrets involving little boys. Maybe FNC should give him some scrutiny.

    Project much?

  • Mia Kulper

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    but you dont approve of okeefe’s tax exemption, do you approve of media matters tax exemption?

    I don’t approve of O’Keefe’s exemption because he deliberately deceives with his work. Plus he’s a criminal.

  • Mia Kulper

    Skippy said:
    By the way, Billdo is always whining about “smears from the far left (Media Matters)” when they capture and show clips of wingnutz idiocy.
    That’s sooooo unfair!

    He calls them “assassins,” the way they re-play all the things he says.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Update – second block-quote now correctly attributed to the proper source. Apologies to the New York Magazine for the oversight. 24 more to go Mia!

    it seems like a full-scale war between both sides has officially begun.

    That tends to happen when a decidedly political organization, led by political operatives, learned character assassins, declares war on an media institution, as Media Matters has. MMFA openly declared war on Fox a few months ago (without fanfare from Mediaite – but there WAS an article making fun of the hat Glenn Beck wore in his on-air response) and has subsequently gone so far as to attack and threaten their advertizing in a bullying manner – not over any particular story, but just because.

    The Administration declared war on Fox in 2009. They were beaten back by the media industry on the whole lining up to support Fox’s access and reputation. Even though they were competitors, the rest of the media industry were offended by Obama using the naked power of the presidency so forcefully against one of their own. That was the political wing’s big mistake. They overstepped, they learned, they adjusted. This is the Administration’s war on Fox – part II, only now through surrogates.

    From the New York Magazine article. . .

    [David Brock] recently hired Ilyse Hogue, who, as MoveOn.org’s former director of political advocacy, has plenty of experience with pressure campaigns. “[Media Matters For America] want[s] to drive up the cost of Fox for Rupert Murdoch and the News Corp. board of directors,” Hogue says one day in her office, which is dominated by a large white board containing her team’s latest brainstorms: persuading Alwaleed bin Talal, the Saudi prince who’s the second largest News Corp. shareholder, to divest from the company over Fox’s coverage of Muslims; reaching out to the cast of Glee to protest the news channel; etc.

    Lobbying Hollywood to spread anti-Fox propaganda and targeting Fox stockholders for attack based on identity politics. Media Matters isn’t a media watchdog organization – it’s a political action committee. And a dirty one at that.

  • purveyor

    If it were not for that pesky 1st amendment, we could get rid of Media Matters.

    “All the winds of Doctrine, were let loose to play upon the earth.

    Truth be in the field.

    Let truth and falsehood grapple, who ever knew ‘truth’ put to the worse,

    In a free and open encounter?”

  • Mia Kulper

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    24 more to go Mia!

    That’s the spirit! Don’t give up!

  • Nature Is Freaky

    “Easy Money”

    It’s difficult. It’s very tough.
    I said to the man who’d been sleeping rough
    To sit within a fragrant breeze
    All among the nodding trees
    That hang heavy with the stuff

    He threw his arms around my neck
    He brushed the tear from my cheek
    And held my soft white hand
    He was an understanding man
    He did not even barely hardly speak

    Easy money
    Rain it down on the wife and the kids
    Rain it down on the house where we live
    Rain until you got nothing left to give
    And rain that ever-loving stuff down on me

    All the things for which my heart yearns
    Gives joy in diminishing returns
    He kissed me on the mouth
    His hands they headed south
    And my cheek it burned

    Money, man, it is a bitch
    The poor, they spoil it for the rich
    With my face pressed in the clover
    I wondered when this would be over
    And at home we are all so guilty-sad

    Easy money
    Pour it down the open drain
    Pour it all through my veins
    Pour it down, yeah, let it rain
    And pour that ever-loving stuff down on me

    Now, I’m sitting pretty down on the bank
    Life shuffles past at a low interest rate
    In the money-coloured meadows
    And all the interesting shadows
    They leap up, then dissipate

    Easy money
    Easy money
    Easy money
    Rain it down on the wife and the kids
    Rain it down on the house where we live
    Rain it down until you got nothing left to give
    And rain that ever-loving stuff down on me

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