Make no mistake, we’ve been played. Obama=fear monger in chief.

Of COURSE it was only a matter of time before Hussein O-bummer-bow-ma started TAXING our beloved JOB CREATORS!!!!!111  Why does he hate America SO MUCH!?!?!?!111

Let’s all face it, this bill is a crock. There won’t be any cuts, there never are. Both sides are against reducing spending. The only thing this bill does is slow us down to 90mph from 100mph heading over the cliff. Either way we are going over the cliff.

boy your schtick is weak and unfunny

He was right about one thing, this all could have been avoided. The Dems could have done it like they did the other two increases when the controlled everything, nice and quietly. They chose to wait so they could place part of the blame on the Republicans. They weren’t expecting such hard push back. I wonder what is going to happen on September 30th when the continuing resolution ends that the Democrats have been living off of for the last 824 days?

The real UNFUNNY thing is how Hussein O-bummer-bow-ma and his union thug Soros-funded MUSLIN black panther Chicago-style marxist fascist socialist racist sexist CROOKS are taking Real Americans over a CLIFF!!!!!!!111

Incredible. Obama couldn’t even wait until the corpse was cold.

KEEP IT UP KARL! YOUR POSTS ARE ALWAYS FUNNY! PARODY IS LOST ON REPUBLICAN/TEAPUBLICANS!

Bait and switch.

Oh, well. Enjoy it while you can, libs. I can see 2012 from my house.

Not only did he not wait until the corpse was cold, he’s in there committing necrophilia with it as we speak. Sweaty, grunting, drooling, public necrophilia.

Look, ass, the American people are done hearing you speak.

We get it, you’re ill prepared for this job. Please, put the bullhorn down. Community organizing this is not.

Just go golf or something.The country is better off not having to hear from your and/or see you. Be gone, Barry!

The FOUR obozo wars: iraq, afghanistan, libya and the worst of them all, his class war in America.

let the class warfare begin………

Why did Hussein Obamessiah start SO MANY WARS?!?!?!?!111

They must not have expected the push back, but they were warned. On January 3rd, the first day of the new Congress, Time Geitner told John Boehner of the need to raise the debt limit. On January 6th, John Boehner let the treasury secretary know that there would have to be spending cuts attached.

That was nearly seven months ago. For six months the WH assumed that they could ignore the will of the majority in the House. If they did not want to wait until the last minute, they should have begun to negotiate seriously months ago.

GOD BLESS OUR BRAVE JOB CREATORS!!!!!!!!!111

Blah, blah ,blah…STFU you dumbass. You’re nothing but a liar and a shallow left wing ideologue. The sooner America is rid of you the better.

Always a pleasure to meet a fellow CAPS LOCK ENTHUSIAST!!!!!!!111  Although I’m not quite sure what “parody” is!!!!!!111

Yeah, and they are probably kicking themselves now. They DID NOT want this on the front of every newspaper and front and center 24/7 on the news. The only good thing that came out of all of this is that it made a few more people aware of just how much we are in debt that were oblivious to it before.

Resign.

Right — so that we can get back to the peace and prosperity of the Bush-Cheney years!

IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG,LONG TIME! THE “REAL AMERICANS” HAVE SEEN IT FOREVER! THE REPUBLICAN/TEAPUBLICANS HAVE JUST PUT A FACE TO IT FOR ALL TO SEE! COME ON “JOB  CREATORS”! SPEND THAT MONEY IN THE GOOD OL U.S.A.! HELP US “REAL AMERICANS” GET OUR COUNTRY BACK!

I guess you must live at 1601 Pennsylvania Avenue, because otherwise you’re having delusions.

You’re right. It’s so much better to wait to make a speech till the subject is cold and people have moved onto the next thing. 

I will take the spending levels, unemployment levels and housing values under Bush any day of the week compared to now. Oh yeah, and no one calling me a racist or terrorist for disagreeing with the white Democrats.

NeoCons Freak over Defense Cut Talks
Part of this debt deal if it goes through will lead to the creation of a
Super Committee and then that bipartisan committee will have to decide
on 1.2 trillion dollars in cuts. But if they can’t agree, it will
unleash a trigger that cuts 1.2 trillion, half from domestic spending
and half from defense. Just the thought of this has already unleashed a
wave of hysteria from neo-cons. Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer
discusses.

http://youtu.be/xVBYZpXkz0A

CLASSY!!!!!!111

God the Tea Party is so stupid.  Started out as a bunch of average joe’s who didn’t want to be taxed anymore (even though their tax rates are the lowest they’ve been in 50 years) and then turned to complete nutjobs sticking up for people in way higher tax brackets.  The Tea Party is the biggest problem in politics right now. 

It’d be nice if, after 2 1/2 years, he’d give a different speech.

Your humor does assume that the teabaggers have enough self-awareness to recognize when they’re being mocked. But I think you’re giving them a bit too much credit.

i want the rich people’s money……gimme, gimme

Ms Lippy – just checked out your TWITTER and I was HAPPY to see you love three of my favorite Hussein Obamessiah memes – SHOW US THE TRANSCRIPTS, “CORPSEMAN”, and HOW MUCH HE GOLFS!!!!!!111  I would have liked to see a few more TELEPROMPTER jokes though!!!!!111

A parody (pronounced /ˈpærədi/; also called send-up, spoof or lampoon),
in contemporary usage, is a work created to mock, comment on, or
trivialise an original work, its subject, author, style, or some other
target, by means of humorous, satiric or ironic imitation.

Left wing idealogue!!  That’s great. People are so stupid.  The guy completely caved on everything the Republicans wanted.  Yet, he’s a left wing socialist.  Then why does he give the right everything they want?  He extended the Bush tax cuts, unilaterally went after Libya, increased troops in Afghanistan.  Combine that with the healthcare bill and he comes out centrist.  Stop being stupid. 

Tax reform is definitely a worthwhile endeavor, along with budget reform, regulatory reform,  and entitlement reform.

But everyone above the poverty line should pay a share, and right now many of them do not. 

When politicians refer to “the taxpayers”, no one should automatically assume that they are speaking about someone else. Everyone ought to consider himself to be one of the taxpayers, if only to have a stake in the outcome of debates that concern taxpayers.

IMO it should be possible to reform the tax system so that it encourages more economic growth, which will then lead to more tax revenue. Without such reforms, I think we’re stuck with a stagnant economy.

When I think about GW Bush, I think of FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!!111  

Hey, genius — we wouldn’t be where we are if Bush-Cheney hadn’t given the store away to the so-called “job creators” and put two badly-mismanaged wars on the nation’s credit card. Were you in a coma for eight years or are you really that clueless that you can’t connect the dots?

Our Brave Job Creators care MORE about the American People than Hussein Obamessiah EVER WILL!!!!!111

gimme ,gimme, your money karl

It would be nice if, after 2 1/2 years, the Obama-hysterics took their fingers out of their ears and listened to what he was actually saying instead of creating their own false narratives. 

Flat tax. Everyone pays the same % amount. Then, maybe a small federal sales tax. We eliminate the IRS and save billions. We collect taxes on everyone. We collect taxes on consumption. It is the only way.  

Beat is liberal troll.

You forget that we Right-Thinking Americans HATE WAR NOW!!!!!!!!1111

The better question is why is he still fighting them, when he promised to end them.  And remind me, is GITMO still open?

Yeah, because probably the only thing that will be cut is defense. The Medicare cuts won’t happen. They won’t further decrease the payments to providers. They never have and never will. They override it every time. They know if they cut those payments further that more and more doctors will stop taking Medicare.

He is such a joke its embarassing, he comes walking out to speak when he has been such a non player, this speech was so obvious a campaign speech, he was talking to his liberal base, its all the Republicans fault, come on barry the Republicans saved your A–!! Lets hope and pray the people see thru this and you finally. Now watch him he is going to go out and try to take credit, what a joke, I remember him years ago so against raising the debt limit for Bush, this man is pathetic, and the press and media just go along with him and prop him up, and are all ready to help him get re elected.

I couldn’t agree more.

If you think Obamacare is “centrist” then you’re just going have to deal with the fact that you are stupid and probably will be for the rest of your life.

Obama’s pranking on  Harry and Nancy again !1!!!

YOU MEAN THE “JOB CREATORS” MONEY DON’T YOU! YOU KNOW THE ONES WHO WANT THEIR COUNTRY BACK BUT WON’T PAY FOR IT! NOR HELP ANYONE OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE SO BUSY BEING “JOB CREATORS”!

unoriginal!!!!!!!!!!

Iris, get a job and stop demanding everyone else support you.  Why are you libs so lazy?

First off, thanks for the compliment. Next, How exactly do think taxing the “rich” creates jobs? If the wars are so horrible then Obama could have ended them at any time. He extended them. Nothing was perfect under Bush and I don’t think anyone on this board would say it was. However, it has gotten WAY worse under Obama with more misery to come.

“Bush!”

*drink*

Is your caps lock button stuck?

YES,I HEARD HE DID A LOT OF THAT IN HIS DAY!

I don’t know who this “Beat” guy is but I hate LIBERAL TROLLS so if I see him around I’ll tell him to GET TO STEPPIN!!!!!!111

……are you retarded or something kid. Post somewhere else, adults at play.

You know, we could all walk his path he has chosen.. Everyone hold hands and become Democrat for just another 6 years. Even with holes in our shoes. We will rise from the ashes again, someday. It might be quicker to allow it. Let a total financial collapse of our country happen and start again. Then pick our comrade up from his fallen chair and brush him off, letting him know all will be fine someday. Explain to the comrade, we are a broke nation and you led us down that path. we followed blindly. Come we will build again… (here is where you insert the new sun rising as we walk together into the distance of smoldering wrecked cities, captiol half black with soot) Is this not what the Democratic side wishes.. Hammer in one hand, pickle in the other?

Nothing like a little class warfare and fear mongering before the big P-A-R-T-A-Y in Chi-Town tonight with all those celebrities and billionaires flying from all over the world on their corporate jets to enjoy all the Hollywood entertainment lined up for Barackapalooza!.

Whew…it was a close one, but THANK GOD we got an agreement done just in time for Obama’s Celebrity Birthday Blowout Bash!

I would like for you to use more !!!!!!!!! Because it really makes your point.

AWW SEEING NOTHING FROM YOUR WINDOW MAKES YOU SO CRANKY!  (SIDE NOTE) SURE DO LOVE HOW THIS IRIS PERSON BOTHERS YOU SO MUCH!

In the latest Quinnipiac poll, Obama is in a statistical tie with Santorum in Pennsylvania…LMFAO!

Mr. President you were preempted by Minority Leader Mitch McConnell who said the Republicans will pace those on the commission who will NEVAH! allow that to happen.  Successful hostage takers are funny that way.  Please step out of their alternate universe into reality. 

DO YOU KNOW HOW TO SKIP OVER! I DO IT TO YOUR POSTS ALL THE TIME!

I thought Obamacare was going to fix stupid just like it was going to lower our National Debt? No? Shoot! Well then yeah, I guess Micah will always be stupid and our debt will continue to grow at astronomical speed.

a opposed to the f’n crackhead we got now, tard?

Barack Obamessiah is just trying to make Americans RESENT our beloved JOB CREATORS!!!!!!!111  Well here’s a tip, you socialist thug: WE AIN’T BUYING IT!!!!!111

Obama is what you get when you hand out participation trophies, people actually grow up believing that they know better than other people how things ought to be, when in fact, he’s a two bit chump who doesn’t realize that, unlike the stupid urban riff-raff in south Chicago who were in awe of his presence, most of the rest of America see him for the charlatan that he is. It will be a much brighter day when he’s no longer around to play America’s twit, don’t really care how that happens.

Chalk another victory up for the Tea Party Terrorists!!

Lie much? Rhetorical question, of course. ;)

Dubya did more cocaine than every other U.S. president in history put together.

“stupid urban riff-raff in south Chicago” – if you weren’t clearly a fellow Right-Thinking American I’d think this was thinly veiled RACISM but luckily we all know that the LIBS are the REAL RACISTS!!!!!!111

Somebody has to pay taxes in order to keep the government operating.
For my money, poor people should pay the most taxes.
Then maybe they’d get off their asses and make enough money where they don’t have to pay taxes. 

don’t tell prog pu$$y that, he’ll have to post a tea party video as a “comeback!”

AGAIN WITH THE “TARD” WORD! YOU PEOPLE NEED A NEW WORD! FALIN PALIN IS CRINGING EVERY TIME YOU SAY THIS! TEXAS IS BURNING! THE DEVIL MUST BE VISITING!

flagged.

duh

Santorum won’t make it half way though the primary season.

“living within your means”   means living with what you already have not stealing more money from the citizens.

Yes, moronic people bother me. 

AGAIN WITH THE RETARDED! AND YOU ASK SOMEONE ELSE TO GROW-UP!? HAHAHAHHA!

When I think of Barry, I think of a terrorist loving, America-hating racist listening, liar in chief. 

No one has been able convince me there is any down side to the flat tax. It would cure so many of our problems, from Plannded Parenthood to the bloated money sucking bureaucracy of the IRS. For corporate welfare to political favors. I only see a win win situation. I should add NPR and Media Matters.

Make no mistake. This is the last time. All three branches should fit nicely in the Tea Party basket in 2012

Just your comprehension difficulty.  COMBINED! with the healthcare bill Obama comes out centrist. 

I know families that live off the welfare system, they explain to the next generation how to do it. Such a great nation comrade, expanding education to the young. This my friend is Amerika.. once proud nation with no more than hands out now, let’s get back to computers and watch those others do the work. They do it with pride for others can survive and vote for their comrades in arms with that iron tax thumb..

Hmm, when you think about it, can you blame big business from moving off shore? Protecting their funds in another market. Same with the Templars of today, why put loans out to those in this country when they can find safer markets offshore? Waiting for this one to collapse? Need only look to Washington to see the collapse coming… Hammer in one hand Pickle in the other.. we march forward into 3rd world standards.. I love Amerika..

There is NOTHING “adult” about Mediaite comment boards.

He caved in to the Republicans just as he caved in to Russia, just as he has caved in all around the world…   with the one exception..  our strongest ally Israel..  He caves because deep down inside he has nothing, except hatred for colonialism, prompting the return of Churchills’ bust, and his hatred of Israel.. 

Oh here we go, pull out the Democrat talking points. I guess you got the same memo all the other Democrats got? Do any of you come up with origingal thoughts?

You’re about to OUT-SPENSEN me!!!!!111  But don’t forget marxist, sexist, fascist, muslin union thug!!!!!!!111

deep thoughts.

gimme,gimme your money bluebunny

2012freedom wrote: “The only good thing that came out of all of this is that it made a few
more people aware of just how much we are in debt that were oblivious to
it before.”

It feels weird and really icky, but for the first time ever, I have to agree with 2012freedom.

Well of course since everything is “code” for racism according to Liberals nowadays.  Why weren’t you calling us racists when we were fighting against what Clinton was doing? Wasn’t it Billary that said about the Bush administration; “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.” I guess she forgot that now.

Which is why Obama being tied with him in Pennsylvania is so freaking hilarious!

I SEE! YOU ARE EVOKING YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO GO AFTER OUR PRESIDENT! NICE MICHELLE! BE CAREFUL! IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO OUR PRESIDENT THE FEDS KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE! IN UTAH THAT IS!

bwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111

He has a celebrity bash to attend tonight, then it’s off to Martha’s Vineyard and probably more golf and basketball.

There is no down side. It is the only way we are going to get out of this mess. Of course it will never happen, but it is nice to think about.

I like the Tea Party. I really do. 

I hope they can take their no negotiate, take no prisoners approach and Russian roulette style of nihilistic politics through into its natural conclusion for the 2012 Elections. It will make for interesting debate and I’m sure the country’s voters as a whole will be better placed to judge where to go from there.

WOW ! THEY SURE DO GROW THEM SMART IN TEXAS! YEEEHAWWW! MUST BE ALL THAT BEER DRINKIN! THAT COMMENT WAS AS DRY AS YOUR STATE!

Seriously dude, how old are you? You aren’t even remotely funny, or entertaining in the least and your behavior is pretty close to the 7th-8th grade level for boys.

Oh sure, I now how but I am just so curious as to why you think you need to type in all caps? Is it a mental thing? Like you think you are being super cool and all?

AWW HONEY! THE WHOLE WORLD GOT THAT MEMO!

The details aren’t even out yet. Still, he revels in his victory, throws it in their face and twists the knife. That just seems a little arrogant and ruthless to me. Then again, I suppose that is what his base is looking for. That of course and many of them clamor for authoritarian leadership, which ties right in.

Strangely, it makes me feel weird and really icky too. However, at least we can agree on one thing. That is always a good starting point.

Iris, what does my comment have to do with the second amendment?

Unfunny Schtick is unfunny

You are right. Cause Perry is coming,Perry is coming. Save your hate for THAT, you are going to need it !!!

And he scare the libbies to death!

The whole world got the memo that the Democrats need to use a memo for their talking points because they aren’t smart enough to figure out anything for themselves? Yeah, I knew that already. However, I was asking if it is possible for any of you to come out with an original thought? So, I will take your response as your answer. No.

Damn! I thought Harry and Nancy were the prank?

THEN BY GOD! YOU MUST JUST HATE YOURSELF!

Thanks patsy!

The top 1% of taxpayers pay about 40% of all income taxes, the top 10% pay 71%. But yet the “rich” aren’t paying their “fair share?” LOL. The bottom 50% pay 3%. A lot of the bottom 50% pay NO Federal income tax. What about the shared sacrifice we keep hearing about? Shouldn’t we all have skin in the game? After all, if you rob from Peter to pay Paul you will always get the support of Paul.  

What’s it to ya?

What’s it to ya?

YOU’RE VERY WELCOME TURBAN WEARING TERRORIST! WHAT PARTY DO YOU BELONG TO AGAIN?! OH,YES! THE REPUBLICAN/TEAPUBLICAN ONE! OR IS THAT THE TEA TERRORIST PARTY! THE TWO ARE SO SIMILAR!

Bring him on!  I believe the “libbies” would love to run against him.

No people like you are the problem…..I paid over $60K in taxes last year so lazy turds could sit around on their butts collecting money for doing nothing….Welcome to Obama world take from the smart people who palyed by the rules, worked hard and got ahead in the world and give it to the stupid turds who want nothing but a good time and what other peole have without having to work for it…..I think it’s time I stopped working so hard go on welfare and become a member of the Obama fan club….money for nothing and the rich will pay…..what are clowns going to do when there ain’t no rich no more to pay….

YOU HAVE YOURSELF A “JOB CREATOR” FULL DAY! THIS HAS BEEN A VERY “JOB CREATOR” DAY WITH ALL OF YOU! PEACE OUT!

Oh yes, Micah, you are so right.  The world would be a much better place today if, through out history, the people who just have shut up and give the Sage Gentlemen running the governments everything that the people had.  We must learn to shut up and follow the likes Maxime Waters, Barney Frank and Charlie Wrangel (he does know how to wrangel the taxman)!

“The details aren’t even out yet. Still, he revels in his victory, throws it in their face and twists the knife”

Stop! you’re giving me the vapors!

“That just seems a little arrogant and ruthless to me.”

Then STOP THINKING IT!

“Then again, I suppose that is what his base is looking for.”

I’ll just bet you do!

“That of course and many of them clamor for authoritarian leadership, which ties right in.”

Life really sucks for those lefties, doesn’t it?

Agreed.

So why are all those job creators hiring overseas workers instead of Americans?
And now that their tax breaks are safe, will they start moving those jobs back to America?

Gee, I wonder…

There are many working class people working two or three jobs and are still struggling. You’re obviously not one of those bible thumping Religious Right Clowns….right?

RDD: another lefty who has no idea what a neo-con is..

Neo-con, short for neoconservative, a new conservative, someone who formerly leaned toward the left, but whose beliefs evolved toward the conservative position.

It is not simply everyone you do not like.

Yeah. The next round of deficit reduction? When was the last one? There is no deficit reduction. There are “spending cuts”, most of which are either theoretical, imaginary or accounting gimmicks. We’ve got growing deficits as far as the eye can see.

Look! Gabby Giffords! Yay!

http://tinyurl.com/3orbt6y

Santorum, who won’t get out of primaries? HAH

You fail to note that he beats Bachmann and Perry, both of whom have more legs than Ricky.

How about those Social Security funds we’ve been told are so safe for so long? Obama was nice enough to let our seniors know it’s all gone and that they’re thisclose to Alpo time.

In the same Quinnipiac poll: “Obama tops Texas Gov. Rick Perry 45 – 39 percent.”

Heh. 

You’re delusional. Even Texas GOP thinks Perry as POTUS candidate is a bad idea.

To make the flat tax work, you need to do more than just replace a bracket of tax rates with a single tax rate. You also need to broaden the tax base, eliminating all the exemptions and credits that let some people pay less than others who are identical situations. In fact I would recommend adding some items to the tax base that have never been taxed in the 98-year history of the income tax. 

For instance, if there are two people with identical income and the same number of dependents, living in identical houses, I do not think the one who is renting his home should pay more federal income tax than the one who who is buying his home with a mortgage. I think it is great when people are able to accumulate wealth; but I do not think the government should discriminate against renters.

Next year isn’t going to make it to your place? We’ll miss you.

Same old campaign speech he gave the last time.

If he would only abide by his own talking points! The people voted for a divided government and we got the dysfunctional government with his administration.

Barry:  “It shouldn’t take the risk of default or catastrophe for people in this town to come together and get something done.”

Right back atcha, BuckO!

Yes. Yes, he is.

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

“Hysterics”? Seriously. What I’m feeling is the opposite of hysteria. I’m bored.

The rest of the world knows how deeply we are in debt, especially our creditors. So it was inevitable that we would also find out, sooner or later.

It’s simply astounding how stupid most of you leftists are. Honestly, think about it for a minute. Don’t have some website or some media personality do your thinking for you, just think about it. If the current federal revenue is $180b per month, and current spending is $300b per month, meaning that _every single_ month, the United States has to borrow $120b, don’t you see something wrong with that picture? Tax the crap out of everyone, it still doesn’t change the fact that we spend as a nation _way_ too much money. It simply can’t be sustained.

Look at the price of gold, the stock market. Even people who used to be fooled by the cute math done in Washington with baseline budgeting aren’t fooled anymore, and inverters sure aren’t buying it, are they?

Look, if you walk into a store, and you see this killer sale, and you reach into your pocket and you don’t have any money, guess what? You can’t afford it! We’re there, man, many people can see that, many of the leftists want the nations finances to collapse, but please, think about it.

When they hack off your social security and hand over your medicare to an insurance lakey, while the rich get richer, trickling it all down on you, who will the joke be on then?Pathetic, hope you get what you want.

Retarded is an observation. The rest of your claim is a strawman, I didn’t ask him to grow up. BTW: That’s as ‘grown up’ as a libturd gets. 

Sometimes Barack talks like such a big boy, but America….and the world for that matter, knows better.

President “Clueless” Obama is like your teen age son who you sent away to college and was on an allowance the entire time.
When the kid finally graduated, he came home and tried to convince you how smart he had become, but could not find a job that would pay him what he thought he was worth.
His solution is to hit you up for a larger allowance…after all he does have a degree now.

Have you hired anyone lately, or thought about hiring anyone, or considered how much red tape is involved in hiring even one person?

I haven’t hired anyone myself, but I know people who have more work than they can handle. But instead they put in more hours of work themselves, or they ask existing workers to put in some overtime, or they turn down jobs that would require them to hire more workers. 

There are just too many rules and regulations and mandates and taxes, and a lot of uncertainty about even more hassles that the government is getting ready to spring on small businesses.

I was shocked to read, just a couple days ago, that the DOT wants every farm worker who operates tractors or other equipment to have a commercial drivers license. For a number of reasons quite a lot of people can’t get a CDL; plus the farm owner will have to buy additional insurance if his farm equipment is labeled as commercial vehicles. So this is just another example of jobs that are being destroyed by government regulation; every agency in the federal government is hard at work destroying private-sector jobs.

I said it over 2 years ago-

“The cliff is just ahead, might just as well put the pedal to the floor and see how long this baby can fly.”

A democrat wants to raise taxes.  Shocker….

MSM: Beltway Politics v. Real World
The debt deal is done and the good news is for the time being we won’t
be defaulting on our debt and sending investors fleeing and causing
markets to crash. But it is leaving the average American as the one who
loses out, while Congress only thinks about itself. And the mainstream
media, whose supposed to be calling them out, is instead just doing all
the distracting for them and focusing on the insider baseball! Also a
new poll out tells you that the majority of Americans just don’t give a
damn. 77% percent say that officials who have dealt with the debt
ceiling have acted like spoiled children.

http://youtu.be/_hcVypE6PhM

Any republican can win in 2012. All he (or she) has to do is ask the real questions and demand truthful answers. For example, why doesn’t General Electric and other corporations with unions who votes democratic pay taxes? Why did you double the amount of limosines for government use that cost the taxpayers millions of dollars each year to gas and maintain. (Bush had half of what Obama has for official use.) Why does Michelle have 40 assistants and fly around with them to Spain and France etc on vacation. Why do you Mr. President take so many vacations?  Where is the skin you are giving Obama? This president  is a communist through and through.Why do you let Joe Biden get away with calling Tea Party members terrorists when the real terrorists are not referred to by that term in your administration. We are involved in 3 wars! I could go on and on. Criticisms of your policies are not racism. But that is the problem, no one wants to confront you on the real issues that can get you un-elected in 2012 because you always play the race card!  It’s time we get a fearless republican to challenge Obama on these questions and demand answers!  

Take a look at this chart. (let me know if the link won’t work for you)

http://media.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/original-size/Chart590%20%282%29.jpg

I think we should socialize the farm industry, after all why should a farmer have control over his crops when they are needed to feed the world and power our cars?

C’mon you Marxists, get moving on that!

“TMP”

Hey Bluebunny, get ready for “Change you can believe in”.  We so-called terrorists are taking over the country and roaches like you will have to scurry behind the refrigerator into the darkness.  People step on roaches.

I thought you leftists loved people who wear turbans or are you just another hypocrite?

“TMP”

The 50% of people that do not pay income tax includes a lot of retired people that have worked 40-50 years of their lives and have paid their fair shar of income tax and still pay sales tax, state tax and real estate tax and most other taxes. The government has stolen their money from Social Security and now includes it in the federal budget deficit. You can blame president Johnson and every president after for the theft from Social Security. Johnson stole the money to pay for a war of choice, Viet Nam which never threatened the U.S. Iraq which never threatened the U.S. The Iraq war was for oil, which get we get very little of. Why doesn’t our government let the oil companies drill for our own oil in the U.S. ?  Other than a lot of tomb stones and hugh deficits, what did we get from the Viet Nam and Iraq wars ? We still have troops in many foreign countries that are better off financially than we are and can afford their own defense. We haven’t had a sensible president or congress since the Eisenhower administration.  

Yup. Republicans lie about it. Democrats are honest about taxes. Honest politicians. Shocking!

You were lied to by a conspiracy theory promoting site.
Calm down and check the truth on the DOT site that you accuse.

It is already socialized. Farmers are paid not to grow crops! They are subsidized for other crops and especially for dairy products. This has been true since before you were born, unless you are 80 years old.

Methinks t’was sarcasm. Johnathan Swift style.

Yes. The days of the robber barons, when Standard Oil drove all competitors out of business by selling below cost so SO could then gouge customers without that competition. If that didn’t work, there were much worst things Rockefeller could and did do. There were similar shady dealings with rail roads, wheat, you name it.

Let’s stick with today. The Republican/TEA party solution is no solution. We will never get out of debt if we don’t raise revenues, and no math or theory can prove otherwise. Why? Because “Just pay the interest” is (as schmegma loves to say) prima facie bad budgeting. We have to start paying down the principle.

They say the interest alone is 40% of the budget, so that will be 40% next year and into infinity as long as the principle remains.

Yes. The days of the robber barons, when Standard Oil drove all competitors out of business by selling below cost so SO could then gouge customers without that competition. If that didn’t work, there were much worst things Rockefeller could and did do. There were similar shady dealings with rail roads, wheat, you name it.

Let’s stick with today. The Republican/TEA party solution is no solution. We will never get out of debt if we don’t raise revenues, and no math or theory can prove otherwise. Why? Because “Just pay the interest” is (as schmegma loves to say) prima facie bad budgeting. We have to start paying down the principle.

They say the interest alone is 40% of the budget, so that will be 40% next year and into infinity as long as the principle remains.

Well said. One example is the oil subsidies. They were initiated to encourage oil companies to drill within US territory, but they are having no effect now. Yet they are still there and oil companies won’t give them up.What was a good incentive is not one now.

Good point. Lobbies fight it. Politicians listen. Two caveats:

Flat taxes may need to be flexible in that they would go up or down by a percent or two until we figure out the best rate. So far, 15% is only a good guess. It might even work out so well that it could go down to 14 or 13. This would be necessary if we also have a balanced budget amendment. If that happens, we may find ourselves in an emergency situation, like another war that we all support. (Rare but possible.)

A flat tax would not necessarily eliminate Planned Parenthood or other social programs. It must be independent of other legislation to stay a simple flat tax. Otherwise, the loopholes and subsidies are back again.

So. Flat tax and balanced budget, then decide on guns or butter, free sex or no sex, and God or Allah issues. 

You may be. It  must be others progressive_kitty is writing about. I suppose I should check your other posts, but I will take your word for it. Meanwhile, there are plenty of hysterics on both sides.

Nor as simple as you would like.
Neo-cons thought they could bring democracy to the Middle East and elsewhere. They also knew that calling themselves conservatives would get them votes. The Christian Right was getting strong then. Neo idea. We can Con these folks.

 Neo-cons also were chicken-hawks. Chicken in that they dodged the draft. Hawks in that they believed in preemptive strikes and just starting wars in general. Mostly, they were cons in that they conned people. “Deficits don’t matter.”  – Dick Cheney. “War in Iraq will last three to six months, max.” – Don Rumsfeld. He conned himself on that one, and fired the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for disagreeing with him.

OK. Rumsfeld wasn’t exactly a chicken-hawk. He was a naval aviator during peace time. The problem with that is he didn’t understand the need for troops on the ground. He expected shock and awe followed by peace and prosperity. Very few dirty boots, and the grateful Iraqi people would pay our costs of freeing them with oil. That was the excuse for not putting that war into the budget.

As for Bush, he wasn’t dong well in the polls before 9/11, but he sure did great after that. He didn’t cause it, but how could he not like the support he got after it? How could he keep that war leader image going? He loved being Commander in  Chief during wartime. His military service was similar to Rumsfeld’s. Jet jockey in obsolete aircraft that would never fight overseas. No idea or concern about what ground troops do.
(Things are different these days. Air and ground ops are hundreds of times more integrated, and senior officers really know this stuff.)

Snarky time: Evolved toward conservatism? Conservatives believe in evolution? Shocking! ;-)

Rant.

Rant and hyperbole.

So I take it you won’t vote for him. OK. No sweat.

There is such a thing as the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Act, and the DOT is authorized to write safety regulations.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/rulemakings/notices/Agriculture-Regulatory-Guidance.pdf

It appears that the DOT is mainly attempting to regulate farmers or their employees who are transporting grain to the local co-op elevator with their own trucks; it does not appear as if they want to regulate tractors and other implements of husbandry.

This still seems to be the act of bureaucrats who have too much time on their hands; the existing rules were established in 1935 and modified in 1984 and 1986.

I presume you are speaking of the oil depletion allowance. I admit that I don’t know exactly how it works, but if I had to guess I’d say it is like the depreciation of an asset. If this is so, then depletion allowances are not subsidies. If there is a difference between depletion and depreciation, then the depletion allowance should be adjusted to make it a more accurate measure of the declining value of the asset, in this case an oil well. (I presume you would agree that an operating oil well is an asset that declines in value as the oil is pumped out?)

1) Neo-cons were not the first to think that America ought to make the world safe for democracy. And it was not a neo-con who said that “we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.”

2) The people you refer to as neo-cons are pretty conservative, by the current 21st-century US definition of the term “conservative”. They did not “con” anyone into thinking they were conservatives, when they were not.

3) Being a neo-con has nothing to do with whether one served in uniform or risked his life. Our second president, John Adams, was as active as anyone else during the Revolution and then during the first decades of our Republic; but he never served in the Continental Army like Washington or Hamilton. No one dared call him a “chicken hawk”. 

4) One person, Paul O’Neill, claimed that Dick Cheney told him “Ronald Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter”. O’Neill did not like Cheney, O’Neill was eager to sell more copies of his book… O’Neill had an incentive to embellish his story and to distort whatever Cheney actually said. Certain we were left without any context.

5) Rusmfeld did not predict how long the US would be in Iraq, only how long it would take to oust Saddam and defeat his armies. It took 42 days. And Rumsfeld sent all the forces he had; if there had been more, he would have sent more.

6) George W Bush never pretended that he served in a war zone, unlike some US senators I can name (Harkin, Blumenthal). And BTW, the fighter planes of that era were pretty dangerous to fly, even on domestic training flights.

7) Quite a lot of conservatives have no religious beliefs, nor any attachment to a Biblical theory of creation. To me it seems pretty crazy to believe in some Supreme Being that created the universe and the Earth and all the plants and animals and that special category of creatures called humans. I also think it is pretty crazy to believe in the anthropogenic global warming theory. But the creationists are harmless, IMO, because they are not trying to take money away from me like the warmists. The faith-based AGW believers are at least as nuts as the believers in the Genesis theory of creation.

Devils_Spawn, It’s called “sarcasm.”

“TMP”